WEBVTT - March Sadness

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<v Speaker 1>This crowd rises to it's me what Borrow slammed it out?

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<v Speaker 1>Are left winging? Free ball? Perfect?

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<v Speaker 2>Then he blocked the shot at the rim?

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<v Speaker 1>How with the left hand.

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<v Speaker 2>And of foul. Welcome to the Chasetown Podcast, part of

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<v Speaker 2>the Caves Media family. I'm your host, Justin Rohan. The

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<v Speaker 2>FuboTV dot com Slash Calves. Well, it took until late March,

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<v Speaker 2>but we have our first losing streak of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>My body simply rejected it. I completely shut down. I've

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<v Speaker 2>had the flu. I am reacting poorly to this. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I should have taken losses, watched other teams to get

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<v Speaker 2>a little dose of losing. But after a month and

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<v Speaker 2>a half without a single loss, my body shot down

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<v Speaker 2>with these But we still have so much to break down.

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<v Speaker 2>And joining me today is my co host Carter Rodriguez. Carter,

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<v Speaker 2>how you doing, buddy?

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'm doing well. It's uh I literally warned

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<v Speaker 1>everyone to be careful. You're gonna be staying up late

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<v Speaker 1>watching the calves. You might be inventing things to be

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated with, and uh, whoops, there's real stuff to be

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated with. It stinks to it stinks to lose three

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<v Speaker 1>in a row, you know. And it's just a weird

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<v Speaker 1>time of the season, honestly. And I'm certainly sleepy trying

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<v Speaker 1>to fight off any any grump you know. I've had

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<v Speaker 1>my little moments, my little my little grumpy thoughts to

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<v Speaker 1>myself that I know are because I'm not getting enough sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>And West Coast trip isn't over yet, brother man.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, it certainly isn't dead, you know. I'm We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get to the concerns. I think there is

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<v Speaker 2>stop to discuss, both from a kind of macro and

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<v Speaker 2>micro sense of what we're concerned about in the short term.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's any of this that we feel, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>is at least feeding into some anks that we have

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<v Speaker 2>long term that may not just be the result of

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<v Speaker 2>this losing streak, but just you know, general concerns we

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<v Speaker 2>have overall. But I think we do have to get

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<v Speaker 2>into these games individually. I do think It's funny. When

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<v Speaker 2>we were doing our kind of preview of this trip,

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<v Speaker 2>when we were in the midst of the winning streak,

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<v Speaker 2>we said, when are the losses going to come? When

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<v Speaker 2>would you like to predict the first loss? Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>were both right. You know, you predicted Orlando. I predicted

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<v Speaker 2>Sacramento because I was like, you know, three games, four nights,

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<v Speaker 2>second night of a back to back, traveling out west,

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably where it's going to happen. But I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>expecting Zach Levine to miss the game, Demonta Sabonis to

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<v Speaker 2>miss that game. Sure, Darius Garland was missing, but the

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<v Speaker 2>Cavs obviously had more than enough. And I thought you

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<v Speaker 2>and Danny did a tremendous job. Really appreciate Danny phil

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<v Speaker 2>it with me being very under the weather, they're covering

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<v Speaker 2>that Orlando game. I thought the Clippers game overall was

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<v Speaker 2>actually a really well played game for a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was a fun game between two good teams,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they just kind of lost some of their process.

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<v Speaker 2>But that Sacramento loss, that's a bad loss. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>way to get around it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, is it's just that time of year and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get worked up, you want to overreact.

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<v Speaker 1>But long time Cavaliers Twitter antagonist Matt Moore coming in

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<v Speaker 1>with the context to make me feel a little bit better, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>He tweeted today, Cavs offenses first this season. They are

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<v Speaker 1>twelfth in March. The Thunder defenses first on the season.

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<v Speaker 1>They are twelfth in March. The Spurs offense is sixteenth

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<v Speaker 1>on the season their first, Memphis defense is tenth. They're twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta's offense is sixth, They're eighteenth. It's just such a

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<v Speaker 1>weird part of the season, a weird part of the calendar.

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<v Speaker 2>If you ever, if you want to have a laugh, Carter,

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<v Speaker 2>don't do it now. But after the podcast search Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Moore's tweets. Search at HB basketball March is meaningless and

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<v Speaker 2>see how many results you get. This has been a

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<v Speaker 2>multi year campaign of him basically pointing out how it's

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<v Speaker 2>the least significant, statistically significant month. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>still think, you know, when it comes to the calves

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<v Speaker 2>and what we've seen over this stretch, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's dissimilar to other times when they've had skids. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's too dissimilar to some of their bad

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<v Speaker 2>habits during the winning streak, even we said multiple times, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>a few of these games easily could have been a loss.

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<v Speaker 2>And the question that we had is are they going

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<v Speaker 2>to correct some of these bad habits before getting some

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<v Speaker 2>negative reinforcement. And I think the answer to that was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty clearly, like there's been some really good games in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the Memphis game was a terrific performance from them,

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<v Speaker 2>where they came out, they were engaged. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some of these habits, the turnovers, I would say, settling

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<v Speaker 2>for jump shots, not continually engaging the bigs, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>feeding Evan Mobley and Jared Allen and getting some rim

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<v Speaker 2>pressure going. I think some of those habits are just

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<v Speaker 2>due to coasting and assuming that they have enough firepower

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<v Speaker 2>to win in the end. And when you play like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to get bid a couple times, particularly when

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<v Speaker 2>you play three teams in a row that are all

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<v Speaker 2>in the play in picture that really really need to

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<v Speaker 2>get these wins. Orlando eight seat Sacramento trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>into the upper half of the play in bracket. The

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<v Speaker 2>Clippers are in the play in the Cats basically are

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there with an A plus grade already and they

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<v Speaker 2>are coasting on their you know, the extra credit homework

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<v Speaker 2>that they've been assigned. They already know what they're great

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<v Speaker 2>is for the regular season, the teams really need to

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<v Speaker 2>get those wins. And when you're in that situation, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get caught and you're going to get losses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's not like it's been forty eight minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of substandard play. It's just been like disastrous six minute

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<v Speaker 1>stretches I feel, where they just aren't able to get

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<v Speaker 1>anything going and they pay the piper. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>look at that ten oh run against Orlando. You think

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that you know, they didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy high turnover game against Sacramento. No, I think they

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<v Speaker 1>finished with twelve or thirteen twelve in the game, you

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<v Speaker 1>have twenty three points. So it was just like every

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<v Speaker 1>time they turned it over it was a straight up

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<v Speaker 1>pick six. And so it's like, not all turnovers are

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<v Speaker 1>made equal, not all box scores are made equal, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you might look up and down this Caps

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<v Speaker 1>box score and say, oh, they played a pretty good game,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think Donovan is probably a good

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<v Speaker 1>example of that where you look he goes you go

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<v Speaker 1>all right, twenty six points on seventeen shots, five and four.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's a pretty solid Donovant game. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you watch that wasn't his best second half until some

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<v Speaker 1>heroics very at the very end to get them back

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<v Speaker 1>in contact. So, like, I just think they're not playing

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<v Speaker 1>consistent forty eight minutes of ball, and that is how

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<v Speaker 1>you lose games in March.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, and Donovan's been in a bit of a slump.

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<v Speaker 1>All three of the guards, all three of the guards,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of come home to roost for all

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<v Speaker 1>three of them shooting the basketball right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I was going to say, I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know if slump's the right word, right because clearly he

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<v Speaker 2>had a nagging groin issue. He was shut down for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of games, and then you know, you're returning

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<v Speaker 2>from a soft tissue injury. You're not doing conditioning when

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<v Speaker 2>you're out, You're going to be there's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>an adjustment period as you're coming back. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>surprised to see him, you know, take some time to

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<v Speaker 2>get his footing. There's been bursts where he's looked really good,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's other times where you know, the shots just

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<v Speaker 2>aren't falling. And I think from Darius's standpoint, we saw

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<v Speaker 2>that as he came back from the hip and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the fall where he hit his face, it took him

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<v Speaker 2>a while. It took him a while start hitting shots.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the last couple of games that he's played,

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<v Speaker 2>he's looked a lot better. He's getting to the rim again,

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<v Speaker 2>the shots are falling. The Clippers game was a very

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<v Speaker 2>efficient one until he jacked up those two late threes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in just kind of a scrambled drill situation.

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<v Speaker 2>But he looked terrific, Like I thought, he was the

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<v Speaker 2>best player on the calves against the Clippers. He was

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<v Speaker 2>high pointing rebounds, you know, playing with burst. That step

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<v Speaker 2>back jumper was terrific. So I give Donovan the exact

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<v Speaker 2>same grace that we gave Darius, where it's, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the shots not falling. But I feel like he's playing

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<v Speaker 2>pretty decent overall. But there's been stretches where I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>to close against Orlando it was just a little too

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<v Speaker 2>Donovan heavy. I thought it got a little Donovan heavy,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, went away from MOBILEI is probably the

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<v Speaker 2>more accurate way to say it. Against Sacramento, when Evan

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<v Speaker 2>had it really rolling and we just stopped getting him

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<v Speaker 2>the ball in those last couple of minutes, just not

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<v Speaker 2>trusting kind of the the overall offense and playing the

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<v Speaker 2>way that we have in the clutch throughout the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is really funny because right after we do you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a breakdown of how they've played in the clutch. I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like they've kind of lost their identity in those moments.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe I don't know. I thought they were,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, against Orlando, I thought they generated really good

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<v Speaker 1>looks down the stretch, and I agree with that their

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<v Speaker 1>results didn't really match the process. You know, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like they lost to the Kings on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball, where they just could not get a

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<v Speaker 1>stop for three straight minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>The defense has sucked. It just hasn't been good lately.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I do think it is fair to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these guys are just are slumping from three

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Donoman is shooting twenty percent in his

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<v Speaker 1>seven games this month on eight attempts a game. Darius

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<v Speaker 1>is still at thirty two and a half percent. For

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<v Speaker 1>Jerome Ty Jerome is at twenty four percent. Like those

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<v Speaker 1>three guards, So much of what has made them so

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<v Speaker 1>freaking flammable. This year has been the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>two you know, the three level scoring for all three

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<v Speaker 1>of them, and you know, really it's mostly coming at

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<v Speaker 1>the rim for Tye and Donovan and that's what's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of keeping their field goal percentages even in reasonable places.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, you know, those guys need to make threes consistently.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Dandy Cunningham mentioned it that the Kings, Clippers,

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<v Speaker 1>and Magic are all bottom twenty three point teams, and

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<v Speaker 1>all three of them made more threes than the Calves.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not saying that, like I'm not just doing

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<v Speaker 1>the make or miss league thing, because I do think

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<v Speaker 1>like this is a team that's consistently won games even

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<v Speaker 1>when they haven't been at their best as shooters, and

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't been their best elsewhere, so the bottom's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fallen out on them. Yeah, I think in some

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<v Speaker 1>of these games because they haven't been great everywhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, boy, it's hard to tell the story of

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<v Speaker 1>this three game losing streak without mentioning that Orlando Magic

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<v Speaker 1>made more threes than the Cavs in a basketball game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, the Orlando won I think if

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't part of this larger kind of stretch where

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<v Speaker 2>they haven't been shooting well. It would be really easy

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<v Speaker 2>to say, well, you know, that's an afternoon game that

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<v Speaker 2>happens like those games are always weird. We don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of losses this season, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a quarter of them have come at very early start times.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're right, it's definitely part of the story here.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it's also a compounding issue where it

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<v Speaker 2>almost feels like they're playing to conserve energy just a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit at least compared to stretches where they've been

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<v Speaker 2>playing their best, where the energy level has been so high,

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<v Speaker 2>and some of what you do in those spots is

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<v Speaker 2>you settle for more jumpers. I feel like the Cavs

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<v Speaker 2>have settled for more jumpers and they're not attacking the

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<v Speaker 2>basket generating rim pressure at the same rate, and what

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<v Speaker 2>that ends up doing is you create lower quality three

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<v Speaker 2>point shots as a result of that. Their highest quality

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<v Speaker 2>looks usually come when they're pressuring the rim and the

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<v Speaker 2>defense is collapsing and they're in rotation. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes we are settling a little bit more. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>to the full extent of Boston where the ball never

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<v Speaker 2>goes inside of the three point arc. But I do

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<v Speaker 2>feel like there's been prolonged stretches, or at least in

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<v Speaker 2>the stretches where we do go really cold offensively, we

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of abandoned that rim pressure during that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I think some of that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Evan sat one of these games and he is a

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<v Speaker 1>big generator of that rim pressure for us, where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he like because Jarrett will do it within the scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>But like we saw teams kind of scheme him out

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<v Speaker 1>of a couple of these second halfs where they were

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<v Speaker 1>really taking away the role and really tagging him hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, so that wasn't necessarily there as well

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<v Speaker 1>as you might like. And then you know, you also

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<v Speaker 1>have Darius and you know, missing missing a game, and

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<v Speaker 1>so like I do think like the avenues to rim

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<v Speaker 1>pressure have him been there. And then you know, rotationally,

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<v Speaker 1>like Dean had a really really good game yesterday, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to dig on him too hard, but

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<v Speaker 1>like there have been a few possessions where he's just

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<v Speaker 1>not looking at the rim and you know, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>really not gonna be a guy who looks at the

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<v Speaker 1>rim sam Merril doesn't really look at the rim and

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<v Speaker 1>attack you know, in straight lines too often layup the

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<v Speaker 1>other year. Yeah, though I do feel a little bad

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<v Speaker 1>for him because I feel like everyone went after him

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<v Speaker 1>for that and is like, I don't think he knew

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<v Speaker 1>how open he was. I think he just got a

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<v Speaker 1>offensive rebound and was like, all right, when I get

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<v Speaker 1>offensive rebounds, like kick it out, so you know, whatever there.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I do think just collectively they there hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been a tremendous amount of consistent downhill pressure. Uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some some notable exceptions. I think Max has played really

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<v Speaker 1>really well getting downhill. I think, uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Tie, despite the three point shot being in shambles

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<v Speaker 1>right now, has really still gotten downhill and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>muscled up some relatively effective games uh through that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I do think much like you know, those

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<v Speaker 1>old Warriors teams, like it's a team that has a

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<v Speaker 1>proclivity to be side to siedy yep and you and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you just need to get out of your own

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<v Speaker 1>head and just like we have to attack downhill consistently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I felt like that was a big part

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<v Speaker 2>of darius Is slump was you know, the three point

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<v Speaker 2>shot isn't falling, but we're getting entire halfs where he's

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<v Speaker 2>only taking shots behind the three point arc and he's

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<v Speaker 2>not driving. And I thought there's been a real change

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<v Speaker 2>of that the last couple of games he's played. I

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<v Speaker 2>really feel like he's kind of turned the corner and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling better.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he's back to our guy. Last two games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like he's been playing really well lately.

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<v Speaker 2>It was nice to see. You know, Evan had a

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<v Speaker 2>really tough game against the Clippers. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>probably his worst defensive game of the year. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of made of Jared Allen defending Zubac, but

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<v Speaker 2>some of that was not getting the help defense in time.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Mobley's was a step slow, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>coming off missing a game with foot soreness, maybe that

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<v Speaker 2>was a factor. But it was night and day better

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<v Speaker 2>against Sacramento in comparison, and you know, sometimes you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have those off games. But I thought Mobley's defense

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<v Speaker 2>and his struggles on that end was a big part

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<v Speaker 2>of the story against the Clippers.

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<v Speaker 1>I do too, and as part of it was they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't gotten consistently good play up and down the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, DeAndre hunter had has had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>rough games. You know, Sam is having some a tough stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>one of his tougher stretches I think of the year

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, the shot is okay, but he's not

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<v Speaker 1>getting up a tremendous amount of attempts, which maybe is

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<v Speaker 1>reflective of it. It's one of those things where maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's a like these last two games, he's got three

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<v Speaker 1>total three point episode twenty six minutes, and that's like

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<v Speaker 1>not Sam. I wonder if that's one of those like

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<v Speaker 1>bell Weather things of like things aren't working that well.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sam isn't getting his steady diet of even semi

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<v Speaker 1>open threes. Yeah, So I don't know. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>they're not playing their best and like even like even

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<v Speaker 1>like the obvious stuff that like does not beget any

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<v Speaker 1>analysis but still matters. Last three games, they've missed twenty

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<v Speaker 1>free throws.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that seems to be a that seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>a consistent trend. Anytime that they do have one of

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<v Speaker 2>these slumps is oh god, Like you know, they had

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<v Speaker 2>a really bad free throw week week for one reason

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<v Speaker 2>or another, and I you know, I can't provide an

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<v Speaker 2>explanation for that. It's the least interesting thing to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those things where you just go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they should make those they're they're better than that.

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<v Speaker 1>If but it's like it's got to be worth saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like they make they get an extra seven points per game,

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<v Speaker 1>like across these three games. That's you know, you might

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<v Speaker 1>have turned to all three of those into into wins

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<v Speaker 1>or much more competitive games. Yeah, and that's been true

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<v Speaker 1>kind of it is everything factor, you know, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>been true of a lot of losses this season where

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<v Speaker 1>it's come down to the wire, it's been oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we missed a bunch of free throws, you had an

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<v Speaker 1>abnormally bad shooting game from three. If any of those

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<v Speaker 1>factors change, you still win. Like the fact that they've

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<v Speaker 1>still been close in a lot of these losses, not

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<v Speaker 1>these recent ones, because you know, the Sacramento one shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have come down to that like that, that doesn't matter, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not what I'm referring to. But even thinking back to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Houston loss, that's a perfect example of Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>with even how bad they played, if they just shot

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<v Speaker 2>better from the free throw line, they win the game,

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<v Speaker 2>and it speaks to the overall floor they have. But

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<v Speaker 2>you are in one of these spots where during the

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<v Speaker 2>winning streak there were issues. We didn't feel that they

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<v Speaker 2>were playing well. We felt that they were slumping. The

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<v Speaker 2>starters in particular, were having a tough time and the

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<v Speaker 2>bench was carrying them. Now the starters are, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>in general, are starting to come back to earth. Darius

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<v Speaker 2>is playing a little bit better. Mobilely had a terrific game.

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<v Speaker 2>Feels crappy to have wasted that against Sacramento. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like Jared's been playing well, but the bench lineup hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been as effective. They're in a bit of a rut.

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<v Speaker 2>Those minutes aren't working out as well, so you no

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<v Speaker 2>longer have that boost coming in consistently from the second unit,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that that is leaving them vulnerable to

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<v Speaker 2>potentially dropping some of these games. Yeah, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>whole premise is the forty eight minutes of hell, we

0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.120
<v Speaker 2>don't have lineups. They get run off the floor. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they've been having some lineups that are giving

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<v Speaker 2>up nine ten points in two minutes. Yeah, Like, and

0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:31.480
<v Speaker 2>those births are like really damaging, really really hard to account.

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<v Speaker 1>For and just kind of change the rhythm because I

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<v Speaker 1>would say in all three games there was an eight

0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:40.840
<v Speaker 1>minute stretch for the Cabs looked as good as they've

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<v Speaker 1>looked all year. I would have gainst the Orlando against

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<v Speaker 1>the Kings and against the Clippers, but like, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a big stretch of that Clippers game where I was

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting back being like, this is some basketball man,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the Clippers.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be honest. They are where they are in the

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<v Speaker 2>standings because they've had guys miss so much time and

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<v Speaker 2>because Tylou is a genius and has kept them, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as high as they are. But that's a better team

0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.040
<v Speaker 2>than the record when they're fully healthy, When Kawhi Leonard's

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<v Speaker 2>playing like that and James Harden's locked in like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know they.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't help put Mobley on skates in a way I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know he could still do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good team. That's a team that's capable of

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<v Speaker 2>playing some damn good basketball, and you know they were

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<v Speaker 2>putting on a show that that was a lot of fun.

0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 2>It almost reminded me of that first game against Okay

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<v Speaker 2>See in Cleveland, where it's like, this is just high

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<v Speaker 2>level basketball, even when the defense is good, it's not enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the shot making was nuts. J Quest in the

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube chat just asked about putting someone like Javante in

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<v Speaker 1>just to see if there's a spark there is that

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<v Speaker 1>something you'd be interested in doing as they try to

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<v Speaker 1>get to like the Malaise of March, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of an interesting idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's something I might go to, but I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't go to it right away because I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>options within the existing rotation, and I think you saw

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<v Speaker 2>one of them honestly against Sacramento. Because one of my

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<v Speaker 2>gripes with the Clippers game was and even some recent performances,

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<v Speaker 2>it seemed like within the rotation, Sam has been the

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<v Speaker 2>unquestioned kind of seventh man in terms of the minutes

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<v Speaker 2>played in the rotation, and I felt like there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lever to pull there of cutting it back and giving

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<v Speaker 2>Ocoro more. And that's exactly what Kenny did against Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Okay, we need to start getting some stops,

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<v Speaker 2>we need activity. When the Ice gave really good minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>he gave them great minutes, and honestly, Dean Wade gave

0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:36.480
<v Speaker 2>them great minutes. Like I thought the two of them

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<v Speaker 2>really played well in the time that they were out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that's the first lever I pull, is

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<v Speaker 2>redistributing the minutes within the guys that are already kind

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<v Speaker 2>of within the top nine. And if you feel that

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<v Speaker 2>they're coming out flat and the bench guys aren't giving

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<v Speaker 2>you a lift, that's when I go and I pulled

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:56.960
<v Speaker 2>the Javonte lever and give him an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of pulling the Javonte lever if

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<v Speaker 1>they look listless in the third quarter, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>the hey man like because like the thing with Ice

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 1>that we've always said, you know, is like sometimes if

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<v Speaker 1>if the game's not right, he's not necessarily making the

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<v Speaker 1>splash he plays, he's making the really fundamentally solid plays,

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.040
<v Speaker 1>you know. And Javante, I think, is a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more chaotic of a player, at least from what we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen so far. And sometimes, you know, it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Stevens effect on steroids, you know, or sometimes Lamar

0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:33.480
<v Speaker 1>could come in and like, you know, mess up the

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<v Speaker 1>energy of a game just by trying real hard and

0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 1>playing playing his own way, you know. And like I

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<v Speaker 1>think neither of us ever really loved when he got

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<v Speaker 1>consistent minutes. But I didn't mind him when it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a things aren't going well, let's try it, you know. Yeah,

0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 1>and every now and again he could change the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Javante is like a much better player

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<v Speaker 1>than than Labar to be to be, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, I do think there's some value in that.

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<v Speaker 1>And also just like as a little bit of like

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<v Speaker 1>a hey, it's march. I know, I know it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to like get up for every game. I got other guys. Yeah,

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:15.639
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like there is a little bit of

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:17.760
<v Speaker 1>a message you can kind of send there, not like

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<v Speaker 1>a malicious one, but like, hey, if if I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to get exactly what I'm looking for, I'll try

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.959
<v Speaker 1>other folks. Is a deep roster. I'll give Jalen Tyson

0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:29.720
<v Speaker 1>some run, I'll give Green some run. And he did

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:33.920
<v Speaker 1>that earlier in the year, you know, and did give

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>guys cracks when the team maybe wasn't as sharp as

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.480
<v Speaker 1>they needed to be. So I thought it was I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was a good call for j Quest and

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<v Speaker 1>I would be okay with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Real quick, real quick. All right, I gotta, I gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a little thing I wanted to I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to shout out, Uh. I just want to shout out uh,

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0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>through some hell stuff you mentioned on this Twitter. I

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to say, Ben, we love you. Hope you

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>get well soon.

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Brother. Ye funny enough, that was actually what I was

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 2>going to bring.

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:35.159
<v Speaker 1>Really, Ben, we love you so much. Both of us

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 1>came to this conclusion independently.

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Ben, Ben, I'm happy to hear you. Know. I

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 2>appreciate you sharing your story there. We're definitely thinking about you. Uh.

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:44.400
<v Speaker 1>You.

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.399
<v Speaker 2>We go all the way back to the days that

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I fear of the sword and really hoping that your

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 2>your recovery is going well. If you need anything, reach out,

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 2>we love you and you're here for you, and you know,

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.880
<v Speaker 2>while we're in you know this kind of reminiscent mode.

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I should also mention Carter, we're dropping this at least

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 2>the audio version of this podcast tomorrow March twenty first,

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be the eight year anniversary of the Chase

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Down podcast. How about that?

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Eight years, man, And it does not feel like it's

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:14.360
<v Speaker 1>been eight years.

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 2>It feels like eighteen.

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I just it's just been it's been

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:26.399
<v Speaker 1>an easy job being your podcast buddy for the last

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>eight years. And gosh, that's probably what, like, you know,

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>three hundred episodes, three point fifty or something like that.

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:34.639
<v Speaker 1>It's probably it's a.

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Lot more than that. I'll get to those numbers after

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 2>the fact, but yeah, it's it's a lot more than

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 2>that at this point.

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Crazy to think about.

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I love you, buddy, I love you to you, buddy.

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, it's you know, these stretches are tough. It's

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 2>it's frustrating, particularly when you stay up late.

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I've been so sleepy, so sleepy.

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.479
<v Speaker 2>I've had the benefit of at least one of these games.

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:02.719
<v Speaker 2>I was in bed all day, so I was at

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:09.119
<v Speaker 2>least a little mentally au Yeu Captain flu Bug. Yeah,

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm really living the dream here. But you know it's

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.880
<v Speaker 2>going to lead to stretches where you start having concerns,

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 2>you start you know, it's confirming some of your prior

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 2>concerns and things like that. I saw a lot of that,

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think playing Zubach and Jonas valentunas two

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:29.200
<v Speaker 2>very physical bigs that are going to try to go

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 2>through you to the basket. That's going to lead to

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 2>people talking. You know, a lot of blame going towards

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Jared Allen. And it's kind of funny because even though

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 2>we lost to the Clippers by thirteen, they lost to

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 2>the Zubac Minutes by four. So as frustrating as it

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 2>was to see that, that wasn't necessarily why they lost

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 2>the game. Same thing goes for the Jonus Valentunis minutes.

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 2>He card, what would you guess is plus minus was

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 2>for the game?

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I think I know it was like minus six or

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:57.120
<v Speaker 1>something like that.

0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Speaker 2>It was minus seventeen. Wow, it was seventeen and he

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 2>was five of eleven from the fight.

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>You know why. It was the mobley the Mobley run

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the third.

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:11.199
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying, like as the Calves obviously are

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 2>going to struggle with those types of bigs because almost

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 2>every team does like they play such a physical style.

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 2>They don't always win those minutes, but they're going to

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 2>try to go through you. They're going to elbow their

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 2>win the fight. Yeah, they won't mend the minutes, but

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 2>they'll win the fight. I gotta say it is especially

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:32.719
<v Speaker 2>cruel for the NBA during this this you know, sleep

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 2>walky ass month of marsh to send the Calves on

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.639
<v Speaker 2>a West coast trip to this just parade of large

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Eastern European man to beat us up that are all

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 2>fighting for their playing lives. It's just great. But you

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 2>know what I will take at least I'll say this,

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 2>at least it was Jonas instead of Sibonis, because I

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.880
<v Speaker 2>feel like Sibonis is the toughest cover for Jared Allen

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.160
<v Speaker 2>in the league. Like Jared will do a great job.

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I've seen him do a great job on unbeat. I've

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 2>seen it on Jokic, I've seen it on you know,

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 2>big physical bigs. Sabonis. That that's another that's another animal

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 2>like that is that's shan Gun with more strength and

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 2>more skill and you know, a much better skill set

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.640
<v Speaker 2>when it would comes to footwork and things like that

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>to just put bodies under the basket. He is relentless.

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 2>It's it's I've seen Jared do it to Yannis. You'll

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 2>stand up well to him. But Sabonis that is a tough,

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>tough cover.

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some dudes are just hard for guys and you

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I mean Sis is league leader in rebounding

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and all that fun stuff, and yeah, talk about a

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>weird King's team where like they're not that good, but

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>like if Sabonis is healthy and it's like, all right,

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>we got Sabonis off the floor of him comes Jonas

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>fell on Tunis, that's just like it's just like a

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>NonStop elbow parade. Yeah, uh you know, but uh but yeah,

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely a weird time. And like the confirming priors

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>thing is interesting thing because I will say, as I

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>was watching, like, I mean, I think it's been no

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>secret on this podcast that like I really do think

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Isaac should be getting a little bit more run. I do,

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>and I know you I'm pretty sure you do too

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>as well. And you know, the natural uh, you know, whatever,

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>the opposite of a beneficiary of that is Sam, And

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>like I was sitting here, you know, last night, and

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>be like, I just don't know if I just don't

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>know if Sam should be getting this kind of run

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>in the last couple of games. And then I look

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, I only played twelve minutes, as

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>like I, you know, even we have to be careful

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>about confirming our priors, you know, and and just being

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>like and just being like, well, we think Isaac needs

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>more minutes. So when Isaac's not getting the minutes and

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>things go wrong, then I'll see, Look how smart we are.

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>It's really hard to analyze. Like sometimes like having all

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>this putting all this thought in and de helping all

0:29:57.880 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>these opinions about the team, I think it sometimes makes

0:29:59.920 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>it harder to evaluate what we're watching, you know what

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you're right. And I think a big

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 2>part of why we approach these discussions the way that

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 2>we do, where you know, we talk about what we think,

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>we discussed both sides of it, basically to outline our

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 2>logic so that when we're wrong, you guys at least

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 2>have an understanding of what went into that where we

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 2>went wrong, and then you know, we can break that

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 2>down further in the future, and I definitely felt that

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Sam was getting too much time against the Clippers. I thought,

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's he's held up incredibly well defensively. I

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 2>thought he's competed well. The overall numbers have been very

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>good for him on the defensive end, but this recent

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 2>stretch it hasn't been going as well. There's guys that

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 2>have been able to kind of take advantage of that opportunity.

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>And I do think that it's interesting because there's a

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 2>bit of a trickle down effect here with trading Carrislavert

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 2>and George Niang for DeAndre Hunter. And a big part

0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 2>of that is now that that third ball handler is

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 2>consistently Ti Jerome, if you're also still playing one of

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Darius Garland and Donovan Mitchell. That means that Sam is

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 2>functionally the small forward in a lot of lineups if

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 2>he's coming in off the bench, Whereas with Karris Lavert,

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:15.959
<v Speaker 2>if he's coming in as the third ball handler and

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 2>you have one of Donovan or Darius out there, you

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 2>at least have that longer body to throw at wings.

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 2>And there's just been a few too many times recently

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 2>where it's like, oh, Sam's on John Morant, or he's

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 2>on James Harden or oh he's on Kawhi Leonard. That's

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>just it's unrealistic to expect him to hold up in

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 2>those spots. And I think that that's going to be

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 2>a bit of attention going into the playoffs of Hey,

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.959
<v Speaker 2>we really like what Sam's bringing us, but if we

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 2>are going to have one of Darius or Donovan on

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 2>the court at all times and we're going to play

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Ty Jerome, you kind of have to almost make a

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 2>decision between Ty and Sam when it comes to a

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 2>lot of these minutes.

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly where I was about to get to, which

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 1>is I was sitting watching the game onto the field

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the sword playback channel and just was hanging with Jackson

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Fleck and Jerry and watching the game, trying to stay awake,

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and we were talking through that, and there is a

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>certain factor where having Sam in the rotation and Tie

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.719
<v Speaker 1>in the rotation, both of them in really meaningful ways,

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>does kind of run counter to the upsizing that the

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>that the addition of DeAndre Hunter was supposed to do

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>for us. You know, like the whole fun of adding

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 1>DeAndre is that you can play Okoro. DeAndre struce uh

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>wide all at the kind of in that two through

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>four range and obviously Mobili in the four, and you're

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>just running really big lineups from the two two guard

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>up and went Ties in as the one from the

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>one guard up. But like it does kind of break

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>that if you want to guarantee Sam and Tie these

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 1>minutes in the rotation, because you also are still staggering

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Darius and Donovan and so one of so you're always

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>going to have one of Darius or Donovan on the floor. Yeah,

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>which means that if you want to have Tie and

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Sam on the floor, you're right, one of them has

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>to play small forward and then all of a sudden,

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>you're small. And part of me thinks that if I

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>were Kenny in the postseason, as always, thank god I'm not,

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>but if I were, I would kind of just choose

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 1>between the two, you know, And I think, you know,

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Tie is a six Man of the Year candidates, so

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I would certainly pick him to start, But I do

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>think there will be matchups that are not great for Tie.

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I was talking to the Dunker Spot boys about about,

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, how we how I feel like he'll hold

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>up in the postseasons, Like I could see a series

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 1>where like Trey Young or Kobe White or some of

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>these quick guards are torching him and getting around him,

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and the foot speed is a problem, and it's just

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>better just to play Donovan as the backup one for

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a couple of games. And if you do that, it'd

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>be great to have a different kind of guy to

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 1>bring out under the floor in Sam Merril. So, like,

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>it's not that I'm I'm just like banish Sam. No,

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just I just think you might have to choose

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 1>if you want to stick to this new identity that

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>you have, and like I think that that it's not

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 1>even new identity, but I think it's like a super

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>charged identity. Yeah, it's almost like if I'm looking at

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the current rotation, usually guys nine to ten in the

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>rotation are coming in to start the second quarter. I

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>think you can start to you know, give Sam MINUTESI

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 1>in that spot. If you're going to have Tie come

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 1>in right away in the first like in the first quarter,

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I just think when you're running out there with Darius

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 1>or Donovan, Tie and Sam, that's just that's asking a lot,

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>particularly because that's coming in minute where you only have

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>one of the bigs on the court from a defensive standpoint,

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and like Darius and Donovan are going to get attacked

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>on defense because of their height, right, guys are going

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to try to take advantage of that. Even though they

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>both play good defense individually, they play sound team defense,

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>you are giving up something from a hyphe perspective. That's

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the conceits of this team. Sam has played

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.839
<v Speaker 1>very good defense. He plays very good positional defense off ball,

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>he's in position, he navigates screens while he's going to

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>do his part. But when you have all three of

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>those guys out there that are you know, six form below,

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>you're just you don't have the foot speed. But Tye

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:43.800
<v Speaker 1>has active hands. But from you know, a defensive standpoint,

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 1>he's probably the weakest defender on the team. So when

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.720
<v Speaker 1>you have him out there with two smaller guards, you

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>just start losing defensive integrity. And I just think you

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>put yourself in a tougher position by having all three

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 1>of them out there at the same time. I think

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:03.280
<v Speaker 1>that's been reflected. You know, in the net rating data,

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>you look at the clean the glass splits. Sam's a

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>lot less effective as a small forward thing as a

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>shooting guard, but you're also you know, the tough thing

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>from Kenny's perspective is he is dealing with nine to

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:18.240
<v Speaker 1>ten guys that deserve minutes, that have earned minutes throughout

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the season and have been reliable throughout the year. Yeah,

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 1>it's uh, you know, and I'm trying not to like

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>overreact again to the confirming priors thing, like, yeah, Sam

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:31.959
<v Speaker 1>has been helpful even when he's slumped most of this year.

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>But I do think there.

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 2>And this is a very small stretch of him struggling

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 2>on defense, right.

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, But like I do think that, you know,

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:46.879
<v Speaker 1>with that trade, the two guys whose jobs changed the most,

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>or they're like context within the team changed the most

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 1>are Sam and Dean, and like, because Hunter can do

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the Dean fact simile things, you know,

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I you know, part of the fun of the

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Hunter trade was like, hey, you know, we are saying

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 1>that we we are depending on Dean a little more

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>than we we would like. Well, now we have a

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, a different dude in a similar you know size,

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that can that can do Dean stuff plus some you know,

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 1>so like I do think Dean has been figuring out

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 1>where to find his attacks and all that stuff and

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>a very promising outing to be sure against Sacramento.

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that's what Kenny was thinking starting him, Ok, Hey,

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 2>let's get Dean going.

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I wondered because it was a I thought a

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:41.320
<v Speaker 1>pretty surprising start, uh to you know, basically play Max

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>of the two. By the way, they played a lineup

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:50.760
<v Speaker 1>to close the second of Donovan, Hunter, Dean, Mobley, and Charot,

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:51.919
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my.

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:52.760
<v Speaker 2>God, large.

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 1>That is a large lineup, so like he is still playing,

0:37:57.239 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, even though they're losing games right now, Like

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>there is some experimentation going on. It's not just pure

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>try to survive the stretch. But yeah, I do think

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Dean had a lot to figure out. And then you know,

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>because of the stuff with Tye being you know, taking

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>caress spot in the rotation, basically like those two things

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of combined to make this a little bit of

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>an interesting thing for Sam. And then like, because so

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>much of what they can do now is kind of

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>just use Max in the in the Sam role and

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 1>use Hunter in the wage role, and and then it

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>just so I just feel like those are the guys

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 1>whose jobs changed the most. Like I thought Isaac's job

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 1>might change a lot. I haven't really felt that. I

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like, I mean, he's getting more minutes at the two,

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>but I think, like are like, structurally his job on

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the team on the floor is not that different.

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I was going to say tie, but you know,

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I think your argument was sound there. And really, when

0:38:58.040 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 2>you look at it posts all Star Break, he's playing two,

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 2>it's per game more than he was before. Like it's

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a more consistent role, but he's still

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.320
<v Speaker 2>playing the same brand of basketball that he was before.

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 2>The contact hasn't changed a whole lot.

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I don't know. I uh, I'm interested to

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 1>see where Kenny takes it because like, this is really

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.359
<v Speaker 1>the first time I've started to have real opinions about

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the rotation, and I would like to think that it's

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 1>just because the losses, but I do Yeah, I think

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of weeks, I think both me and

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you have been like, hmmm, I'm not sure I would

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>do it like that. I'm not sure I would roll

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 1>these guys out in this way. Now, do you think

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:42.919
<v Speaker 1>that's where we should have the Okoro discussion? Because I've

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 1>really liked the Okoro minutes and I think, you know,

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.879
<v Speaker 1>you look at the last three games, he's played eight,

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>twelve and sixteen minutes, so that was and he played

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty one against Memphis. Was great against Memphis. He started

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>game and then he kind of went back down to

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 1>the kind of the bottom end of the rotation. And

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I find that it feels like Kenny tends to go

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 1>hit the offense button when the team is trailing, not

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>the defense button. And sometimes I'd like him to press

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 1>the defense button a little more. In terms of the

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>rotations of the subs, he tends to like to downsize,

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and he tends to like to put in more shooting, whereas,

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>like I felt like in that Sacramento game and that

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:36.320
<v Speaker 1>that Clippers game, I'm like, I want to get stops.

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:38.919
<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to fuel the offense by

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 1>making the other team's life hard. And I would like

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 1>to see more Isaac, I guess is really what I

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 1>was working my way towards.

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see more Okoro as well. You know,

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. I liked how he's been playing.

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 2>The interesting thing is when when you look at kind

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 2>of the impact that he's had on the Cavs iscally,

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 2>he is a defense first player. There's no denying that

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be a low volume shooter. We've talked

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 2>about him rounding out his game and getting into the

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 2>hustle stats and things like that, but he always has

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 2>had a positive impact, at least when you're talking about

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 2>the regular season on the offensive end, because he plays

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 2>with a lot of pace and he plays with the

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 2>law tempo. Sometimes when he disrupts things on the defensive end,

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 2>that leads to transition opportunities. He's probably one of the

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 2>best transition players on the team, and you know, seeks

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 2>out those opportunities better than almost anybody. And when you

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.879
<v Speaker 2>look at the on off stats in terms of who

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:46.319
<v Speaker 2>has the biggest kind of swing offensively, Okorro's right up there,

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Like he's the offense is three point five points better

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 2>with him on the court as just behind Darius, Jared,

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 2>DeAndre and Evan Like, he's someone that has had a

0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 2>positive impact on that end. And I think framing it

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 2>as offense and defense is something that you can do,

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 2>But for me, it's energy. I feel like he brings

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 2>consistent life and energy. That's something you really need in

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 2>the regular season, particularly when you're in the stretch where

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 2>you have pretty much locked up you know, the number

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 2>one seed in the Eastern Conference. I know some people

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 2>are starting to worry about that. That is not a

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 2>realistic concern. You guys can calm down about that. But

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 2>when you have that already locked up, having a guy

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 2>that's going to kind of lift you up collectively, I

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 2>think that's valuable. I think you need to have that

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 2>prioritize just a little higher in the rotation. I'm not

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:39.320
<v Speaker 2>saying he needs to be the seventh man here coming

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 2>in off the bench, but I think eighth rather than

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 2>ninth or tenth is probably where I would have him

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 2>if you are going with a ten man rotation.

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is so funny because I was sitting here thinking,

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, we're probably quibbling over four to five total minutes.

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 2>And again, that's exactly what we're doing, because you know

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 2>that's sixteen minutes. That's perfect, like that, that's it. But

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 2>that is one. On the eighth anniversary of this podcast,

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:09.800
<v Speaker 2>that rate there is exactly the Chase Down podcast we

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:13.760
<v Speaker 2>are we are putting over five. We are getting nitty gritty.

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 2>We are talking about how someone needs to be bumped

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 2>up to the eighth in the rotation rather than that

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 2>is exactly what this podcast is about.

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't know, man, I just think, like,

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. I think he does add a

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 1>certain energy. He's a better athlete than a lot of

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 1>their wing options in terms of just literal foot speed, uh,

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, which like adds a certain energy, a certain verb.

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I think he's been really good cutting. I think he's

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 1>been really good in the baseline. I think he's been

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>really good in transition. I think he's been not gun

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>shy from three, which is good enough for me, even

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>though the percentage is still in rebound mode after that

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>shoulder injury. And then I just think I don't think

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the CAB has been very good on defense the last

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks, and he's the best point of attack

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 1>defender on the team. And I think we saw a

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:07.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit of like I don't know, maybe this is

0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:11.800
<v Speaker 1>not fair, but like during the end of that game

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 1>when Hunter was on de Rosen, I was like, that's

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 1>not the same as Isaac on Derosen. No, you know,

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 1>like at least that's how it felt to me. I mean,

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 1>DeRozan got both of them a couple of times. He

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 1>had a great game, don't get me wrong, and He'll

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>get guys no matter who they are, So this is

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 1>not like slander, but I still do feel like for

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>guard defense and wing defense is still the best option

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>on the team when you need stops. He's going to

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>be the one that's going to deter people from getting

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 1>shots up. Like there was a couple of defensive possessions

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:48.319
<v Speaker 1>against the Clippers where he just completely ruined what they

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 1>were doing in the half court right Like, you're not

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>going to get a shot up because he's getting into you.

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:55.880
<v Speaker 1>He's disrupting your dribble, he's not letting you get to

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:59.279
<v Speaker 1>your spots. Whereas DeAndre Hunter, I think he's played really

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:02.439
<v Speaker 1>good within the context of the system. But where he's

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:05.760
<v Speaker 1>really beneficial is you know those longer shooters where yeah,

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you're playing very good sound defense, but I'm just going

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:10.720
<v Speaker 1>to rise up even if i can't get to my spots.

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're Jason Tatum types. DeAndre does a terrific

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:17.879
<v Speaker 1>job of providing length in those instances. But I do

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 1>think you're correct in pointing out, hey, there's you know,

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a difference here in terms of the way that they.

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Impact things defensively, and I think getting athleticism on the

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 2>court needs to be a priority. That's something that this

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 2>team is lacked at times. And I just think with

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:39.839
<v Speaker 2>a variety of options putting yourself in a box where

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 2>you are taking some length and athleticism off of the

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 2>court and playing three guards, there's going to be Knights

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 2>and there's going to be teams where you can do that.

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I just don't think if you're going to have a

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 2>set in stone rotation where at least for a first half,

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:56.319
<v Speaker 2>this is what we're going to do and then we're

0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 2>going to adjust in the second half. I don't think

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 2>that that needs to be a mandatory look that you

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 2>go to in the first half of every game. Yeah,

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:07.720
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's like the difference between like a perk

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 2>and like what you're building the house out of. Like

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 2>I feel like knowing that they can go to that

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 2>three yard lineup and if they really need a little

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:20.800
<v Speaker 2>extra ball handling juice and they need some three point

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:24.240
<v Speaker 2>movement off ball movement from Sam to try to ungunk

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 2>things like all right, cool, let's see what that does.

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.320
<v Speaker 2>We're in a funk. Let's try that lineup. I just

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 2>don't like it as the starting choice. Yeah, Like in general,

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 2>that's the way I felt about Sam is like I

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 2>just don't I love and like talk about like a

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, they have so many options, they have such

0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 2>an abundance of choice because this team is good that

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 2>like Sam two years ago would be a guy where

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 2>we're just like play him, play him, like he's got

0:46:56.719 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 2>to be in Whereas now they have this abundance of

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 2>riches where I kind of am sitting and being like, hmm,

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:06.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe that guy who I would have begged for against

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 2>the next two years ago, maybe he should be our

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:12.959
<v Speaker 2>break glass in case of emergency option. Like two years ago,

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 2>our break glass in case of emergency option was Danny

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Green on one leg. So like it is reflective of

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 2>how good things are that we're even having this conversation.

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's reflective of the fact that we've

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 2>actually had all of the options available for a stretch, right,

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Like you said, this is the first time we're you know,

0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 2>we're really kind of giving some real thoughts to the

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:34.879
<v Speaker 2>rotation of hey do we want to be doing that?

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:37.319
<v Speaker 2>I think some of that is a product of now

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 2>everybody is available, right, Like we've had the odd rest

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 2>game here or there, the entire supporting cast has been

0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 2>available so we're finding out what decisions this coaching staff

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:49.360
<v Speaker 2>wants to go with in terms of the rotation. I

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:52.560
<v Speaker 2>think the coaching staff is still making those decisions and

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 2>making those determinations. I think it's important to point out,

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 2>as we said earlier the Clippers, Sam was kind of

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:03.360
<v Speaker 2>that unquestioned seventh guy the rotation against the Kings that shifted. Okay,

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 2>we're moved up within the rotation, Sam moved down. So

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 2>I think this is something that Kenny's already doing it

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:13.120
<v Speaker 2>and playing around with. But to me, what we're just

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:17.319
<v Speaker 2>discussing is kind of our feelings towards it, why we

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:19.520
<v Speaker 2>feel the way that we do it, and kind of

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:23.959
<v Speaker 2>the chain reaction of you know, other decisions that come

0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:25.399
<v Speaker 2>from any of these moves.

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:28.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna be uh well, we'll see, we'll see.

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I think Danny Cunningham reported no injuries, I mean reported

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:37.279
<v Speaker 1>that the injury report said no injuries for tomorrow on

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the report, So so the team should be whole in

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that game. Uh did we get off the schnide against

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:48.560
<v Speaker 1>a all time bad Vibes Sun's team.

0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I hope so you know this not to

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:55.840
<v Speaker 2>rehash what we said the last time that the Cavs

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:57.919
<v Speaker 2>lost multiple games in a row. But it's all right,

0:48:58.000 --> 0:49:01.759
<v Speaker 2>Like it's going to come down to when do they

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:04.880
<v Speaker 2>want this to stop? Because I think anytime this Cavs

0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 2>team has had a slump, it's largely been self inflicted.

0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:10.279
<v Speaker 2>What they need to do to turn it around is

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:12.759
<v Speaker 2>all things that they've done this season. They have turned

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:15.280
<v Speaker 2>it around after slumping for a bit. We know exactly

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 2>what they're capable of doing. This isn't something that is

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 2>producing those types of concerns for me of oh have

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:24.399
<v Speaker 2>we been figured out? Is our insanity run over? No,

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:27.359
<v Speaker 2>That's not the type of stuff that I'm worried about here.

0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:30.880
<v Speaker 2>So my guess is just based on the history of

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 2>this team. Yeah, they're going to turn it around. They're

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:36.160
<v Speaker 2>going to come out with a good effort. You know,

0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 2>having Darius back is going to make a difference. He

0:49:38.880 --> 0:49:41.799
<v Speaker 2>still is that guy that elevates the offense more than

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:44.520
<v Speaker 2>anybody else on the team. So I feel good about that.

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:46.840
<v Speaker 2>But we'll need to see, We'll need to see what

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:47.759
<v Speaker 2>effort they come out with.

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm hopeful they've really responded. You know, they won

0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:59.799
<v Speaker 1>nineteen out of twenty games after their last three game

0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a losing streak. They have been an unbelievably resilient team

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 1>even when they've had these little goalies of play, so

0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:11.800
<v Speaker 1>excited to see how they respond.

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Do you have from this stretch, either a short term

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:17.399
<v Speaker 2>or long term concern that that's kind of been brought

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 2>to the forefront of your mind.

0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 1>No, I think the fact that in a way, I'm

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:27.600
<v Speaker 1>just kind of happy that if the if the Guards

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 1>are gonna slump, they're slumping in March and not you know,

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:37.120
<v Speaker 1>and ideally not into I mean, there's no reason for

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:38.840
<v Speaker 1>me to think that they're going to just slump for

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:41.399
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the year. Uh you know, I mean,

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's ultimately possible, So I'd rather know slump

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 1>at all. But like, if you're gonna have a dip,

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:50.719
<v Speaker 1>giving yourself some runway to get yourself back into into

0:50:50.800 --> 0:50:54.880
<v Speaker 1>good form, Like you know, I guess that that's my

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:58.840
<v Speaker 1>only real angst at this point. And it's like, I

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 1>just want the Guards to be back to like their

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:04.719
<v Speaker 1>killerselves and justin I'm just gonna keep looking at that

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:08.839
<v Speaker 1>hand for jareded it bothers me, it answered me. Yeah,

0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel I respect, I respect the crap out of him.

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 1>For going out there and buying every night in a

0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:15.920
<v Speaker 1>league where a lot of guys don't do that when

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:18.759
<v Speaker 1>they're not at one hundred percent. But I just am like,

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 1>is that gonna get better? It's like he took that

0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 1>he tried to do a power dribble with it against

0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Sacramento and lost the ball right away. Like I just

0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:30.479
<v Speaker 1>worry about that hand.

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:33.319
<v Speaker 2>I did feel good about him breaking his fall on

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:36.279
<v Speaker 2>that one time and like not getting up and grimacing,

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 2>like he just kind of got up after landing on

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 2>both hands. Made me think back to to Maxa. I

0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 2>think it was against Orlando where he landed on his

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:47.399
<v Speaker 2>taped up hand and was in a lot of pain.

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, Okay, well, at least, you know,

0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 2>he could survive that that fall to the ground without

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 2>reaggravating it in a dramatic way, So that was at

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 2>least a good sign. My my short term concerns are

0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:01.160
<v Speaker 2>all injury related, Like just you know, Donovan's going get

0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 2>that back to one hundred percent, Jared, get that hand

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:08.280
<v Speaker 2>healed up. Make sure that there's nothing nagging my macro

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 2>concern from this though I've already you know, I've already

0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 2>talked enough about DeAndre Hunter not playing enough with the

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 2>core That continues to be a bit of a concern

0:52:18.680 --> 0:52:22.319
<v Speaker 2>for me. But a bit of my concern, you know,

0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:27.319
<v Speaker 2>with guys dealing with some nagging stuff, is if we

0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 2>are managing you know, soft tissue issues and stuff like

0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:36.400
<v Speaker 2>that down the stretch, it does prevent a little bit

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:38.279
<v Speaker 2>of a ramp up before the postseason. And that was

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:40.400
<v Speaker 2>something that Kenny said that he wanted to do, is

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 2>all right, let's increase the minutes. Let's you know, let's

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 2>test these guys in some of these games. If you're

0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 2>doing that makes it harder to accomplish those goals. And

0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:52.680
<v Speaker 2>I do think that Kenny has already started that. I

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:55.479
<v Speaker 2>think when you look at March, the minutes per game

0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:58.720
<v Speaker 2>for the core guys has ticked up. It was all,

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, thirty and below. In March, Donovan's playing thirty

0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.680
<v Speaker 2>three minutes again, Darius is playing thirty three, Mobley's playing

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:08.120
<v Speaker 2>thirty two. So I think Kenny's doing that in you know,

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:13.200
<v Speaker 2>a responsible manner of ramping those minutes up. But if

0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:18.360
<v Speaker 2>you're dealing with kind of these nagging issues, makes me wonder, okay,

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 2>can you do a full ramp up or is this

0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:22.720
<v Speaker 2>going to be something where, hey, you know, we weren't

0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 2>able to do it exactly how we were hoping to

0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:29.440
<v Speaker 2>end the season, and we basically have to take advantage

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 2>of this week off that we get during the play

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:32.920
<v Speaker 2>and to use this as a training camp and hit

0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:36.399
<v Speaker 2>the ground running, maybe even using the first round as

0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to do so.

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then you look at the other contenders around

0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 1>the league and you go, what, everyone else has these

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:47.080
<v Speaker 1>problems too. You know, Jalen Williams, Jalen Williams is hurt

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 1>for Okay, see Bronson's hurt for the Knicks. Boston has

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:57.440
<v Speaker 1>a perpetual carousel of their guys missing time right now. So, like,

0:53:57.960 --> 0:54:01.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, as just is, it would be not to

0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:04.640
<v Speaker 1>just be in perfect form with this perfect upward curve

0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:06.759
<v Speaker 1>on the way into the playoffs like this is not

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:09.000
<v Speaker 1>like anyone else is going to get that either. So like.

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:14.760
<v Speaker 2>It. Whether it's fair or not, I'm fully self absorbed.

0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I want the Calves to have as many competitive advantages

0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:21.839
<v Speaker 2>as possible. I you know, when it comes to them

0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:25.000
<v Speaker 2>versus Boston, Boston's going to be the favorite. Boston should

0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:28.200
<v Speaker 2>be the favorite. We need to have our best game,

0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:29.799
<v Speaker 2>We need to have our a game. We need to

0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:35.000
<v Speaker 2>minimize the number of stretches that we were allowing Boston

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:36.680
<v Speaker 2>to go on runs because they're going to go on

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:39.239
<v Speaker 2>runs in those games. They're likely going to steal a

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:41.839
<v Speaker 2>game in Cleveland, so you have to be you know,

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:44.439
<v Speaker 2>mentally ready for that and ready to take one back

0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:48.920
<v Speaker 2>in Boston. All of that, the smallest little things, every

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.399
<v Speaker 2>little thing that contributes to the margin for error. I'm

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 2>going to hope that that is maximized on the Calves side, any.

0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Hope as well. I just think it's good to like

0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 1>balance out the the angst with nothing that other teams

0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:06.400
<v Speaker 1>are working through this now Okay, see it's just on

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:09.560
<v Speaker 1>a ridiculous tear right now anyway, but uh, you know,

0:55:09.719 --> 0:55:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's why they have taken the number one overall

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:15.040
<v Speaker 1>seed away from us. But uh but uh but yeah,

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:18.920
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be uh, it's gonna a lot to learn. Damn,

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:21.359
<v Speaker 1>the Rockets have won eight in a row. I didn't

0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:24.520
<v Speaker 1>realize they reclaimed the two seeds anyway. Sorry, now I'm

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:28.839
<v Speaker 1>just standings reading. No, it's very podcasting, there is.

0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I think you know that's my biggest macro concern.

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I I don't worry about you know, can the defense work. Yeah,

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the defense, we we know exactly what this team is

0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:42.440
<v Speaker 2>capable of doing. On that end. I think the offense

0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:45.319
<v Speaker 2>has shown enough regular season track record here to not

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:49.160
<v Speaker 2>worry about that beyond, you know, the the normal concerns

0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 2>that we had of Hey, we need to see this

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:54.120
<v Speaker 2>translate to the postseason for the first time. I don't

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 2>think whether they finish hot or cold from that perspective,

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:02.200
<v Speaker 2>that's not going to you know, that being a question mark,

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:04.879
<v Speaker 2>that being a concern heading into the postseason. We need

0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:08.000
<v Speaker 2>to see Darius elevate his game in the playoffs. I

0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 2>still feel like, you know, the Knick series was fine,

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:13.360
<v Speaker 2>but I want to see him take that step forward

0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 2>and you have a great series. I want to see

0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Evan Mobley have a great offensive series. I want to

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:20.480
<v Speaker 2>see everything click the way that we've seen a click

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 2>in the regular season in the postseason. None of that's

0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:26.160
<v Speaker 2>going to be answered here in the regular season. As

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I said before, we already know what the grade is

0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.320
<v Speaker 2>for this year when it comes to the regular season.

0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:34.799
<v Speaker 2>They've done the work, They've got their A plus. This

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 2>is all just extra credit for the rest of the year.

0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:44.120
<v Speaker 2>But you know, it isn't going to impact the concerns

0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 2>or confidence heading into the playoffs for me, because I

0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 2>know that this team is capable of flipping the switch

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:52.759
<v Speaker 2>and being great in that spot. I also know that

0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:55.160
<v Speaker 2>they are capable of letting their bad habits get the

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:58.160
<v Speaker 2>worst of them and making things tougher on themselves than

0:56:58.160 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 2>they need to.

0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess, I guess. You know, we can kind

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:04.959
<v Speaker 1>of close with me just saying like that is kind

0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:07.359
<v Speaker 1>of nice though that their bad habits are not like

0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 1>what I would consider like fatal flaw bad habits. They're

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:14.000
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh, we weren't paying attention and turn it

0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:17.280
<v Speaker 1>over like four times in six possessions. It's like that

0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:19.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff you presume won't be as much of

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:22.919
<v Speaker 1>a problem in the playoffs when you're sharper and every

0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 1>game is life and death. But I guess we'll see.

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:29.680
<v Speaker 1>But like I don't see like you know too, Like

0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like two years ago, it was like, hey, since the

0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:37.120
<v Speaker 1>All Star break, we're thirtieth in defensive rebounding. That seems scary,

0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not seeing a lot of those bell weathers.

0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's there's something there. We had a stretch

0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:45.680
<v Speaker 1>where we've been on We've been traveling for a while,

0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and the focus isn't there. As you said, turnovers. Hey,

0:57:50.320 --> 0:57:53.320
<v Speaker 1>you know we lost in Newton game. We lost against

0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a team that's missing it stars. Those afternoon matinees. These

0:57:56.840 --> 0:57:59.160
<v Speaker 1>these these children are staying up too late.

0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:03.720
<v Speaker 2>How many times has it been the other team's missing

0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:06.680
<v Speaker 2>a star. We take the team a little too lightly

0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:08.560
<v Speaker 2>and they end up winning that game like that. That

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff is exactly the type of losses that

0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:14.520
<v Speaker 2>we see with this team. That's not something that I'm

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:17.480
<v Speaker 2>worried about translating to the playoffs. The concerns are the

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:19.720
<v Speaker 2>concerns that are always going to be there, which are

0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 2>fair and valid, and that's just what teams get until

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:25.840
<v Speaker 2>they get you to the top of the mountaintop and

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:28.520
<v Speaker 2>and win a championship. So we'll see how that pans out.

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