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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, The after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,

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Speaker 1: a little thing we'd like to call the after Party.

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Speaker 1: All of these sources helped us put together this week's episode.

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Speaker 1: For six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.

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Speaker 1: Ye thanks to the call Mike. Mike, I didn't see

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Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite books ever. I'm a huge.

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Speaker 2: Is it our Kelly? Is it somebody else? Six one seven,

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Speaker 1: de Wie Harry or text me number six. Remember, no

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Speaker 1: one cares about these stories more than you do. And

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Speaker 1: well that's a disgrace. You know what else is a disgrace.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what's a disgrace. There's no phone

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Speaker 1: book linking here for me to read for you guys

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Speaker 1: this week, so I can't do it. So what am

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Speaker 1: I gonna do? I got no billboard charts either. I

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Speaker 1: can't read that to you either, So what am I

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Speaker 1: gonna do?

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Speaker 2: What am I gonna do? I'mnna gonna wing it here.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna wing it because I don't wanna have to

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Speaker 1: get out of the booth, go on the internet.

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Speaker 2: Look some shit up. Come back in here.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna read to you a Dead rock Stars phone book.

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Speaker 1: Off the top of my head. Going right now here

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Speaker 1: we go Hendricks, James Purple, Hayes Avenue six dash four

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Speaker 1: or five seven eight Cobaine, Kurt Aberdeen, Washington seven dash

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Speaker 1: three two five six reading Otis Bottom of the Lake

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Speaker 1: five four three two five one Bottom John Alcoholics Anonymous

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Speaker 1: seven dash two five four seven Little Peak, the corner

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Speaker 1: of Emo, too many pillus five dash four nine six

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Speaker 1: one bottom of Hank YOU'RENOI four of Norway five seven

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Speaker 1: dash two five four John Loves four dash two Williams's

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Speaker 1: Quit talking and start mixing.