WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Strength on Strength

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>This he's Talking Cowboys, springing live from the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 3>The Star in Friscot Tison and now your hosts Isaiah Standback,

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Harris, John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black

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<v Speaker 2>Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco in

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<v Speaker 2>the SWBC studios. It is a Thursday, which means we're

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<v Speaker 2>breaking down the Cowboys offensive preview against the New York Jets.

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<v Speaker 4>In Week two of the NFL season.

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<v Speaker 2>Here with Nick Harris, John Machoda, Isaiah Standback, I'm Kyle Yeomans.

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<v Speaker 4>Gentlemen. We doing today.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty good, quick click, getting ready for Week two and

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is really the preview day that I've

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<v Speaker 2>been looking forward to because the Jets defense has some pieces.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they are they are loaded, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course we talked yesterday about the Jets offense

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<v Speaker 2>versus the Cowboys defense. The Cowboys defense is exceptionally loaded,

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<v Speaker 2>but now you've got the Jets defense to to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about and we'll see how the Cowboys offense can adjust.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to start things off with a little

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<v Speaker 2>news and notes. We've done this quite a few times

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<v Speaker 2>on top talking Cowboys, but I'll hand things over to

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Harris. Give me the news and notes of yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys back on the practice field. Just a tiny pit,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of not really full yeah, practice, I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>was just kind of a it was a mock walkthrough,

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<v Speaker 2>so a mock game and a walk through. But there

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<v Speaker 2>were some news that came out of Miam McCarthy's press

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<v Speaker 2>conference yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so they gave a practice estimate report, which is

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<v Speaker 5>basically saying if they were in a full practice, this

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<v Speaker 5>is how much certain guys would have practiced. And I

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<v Speaker 5>know a notable addition to that list was Brandon Cooks,

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<v Speaker 5>who's dealing with a knee issue apparently. So we were

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<v Speaker 5>able to talk to Mike McCarthy about it. He said

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<v Speaker 5>that he's going to try to do a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>more today, talking about Thursday and then hope.

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<v Speaker 6>He said he's got a.

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<v Speaker 5>Chance to to to play on Sunday, so, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and talking to Brandon Cooks in the locker room after

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<v Speaker 5>he was very kind of hush hush about everything. He

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<v Speaker 5>was like, yeah, I'll just like coach speak on that,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, I feel good and you know, we'll

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<v Speaker 5>see where we go from here. So it looks like

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<v Speaker 5>it's just like a nagging recovery as far as I

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<v Speaker 5>can tell.

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<v Speaker 6>That's my personal perspective of it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, if he if he can't go on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 5>I think that makes, you know, some things interesting for

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<v Speaker 5>the receiving corps. And we lost our host, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>so we've we've lost a receiver and we've lost our host.

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<v Speaker 6>Today, it's been bad.

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<v Speaker 7>I found it interesting how he answered that question about

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<v Speaker 7>how multiple times he was asked and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 7>you're you gonna have to ask coach about there whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just not used to players saying that, So I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know if that's a he's used to doing that

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<v Speaker 7>at other stops in his career whenever there's been injuries.

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<v Speaker 7>But I found that interesting how there's multiple times it

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<v Speaker 7>was circled back on like his possibilities of playing and

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<v Speaker 7>everything of that, and he didn't reveal anything. So of

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<v Speaker 7>course when we like leave the locker room, I go back.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, let me just see when when's the last

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<v Speaker 7>time he was out on the field and it's the

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<v Speaker 7>play right before Turpin's touchdown to make it forty to nothing.

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<v Speaker 7>And so he left basically when all the rest of

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<v Speaker 7>the starters left. It wasn't like heh, he did something

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<v Speaker 7>in the first half and then you know, we didn't

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<v Speaker 7>see him in the second half. I mean that would have,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, raised some red flags. But he was out

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<v Speaker 7>there until when they pulled Dak and everybody else like, so,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>And a lot of Texans beat writers were kind of

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<v Speaker 5>coming to Twitter yesterday and be like, oh, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 5>Brandon Cook's Wednesday day off, like he does this, and

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<v Speaker 5>we were like, Okay, good context, I guess, but I

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<v Speaker 5>do feel like there's an actual injury going on here,

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<v Speaker 5>just because of the way McCarthy communicated it yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>But I guess that's something to keep in mind.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like, yeah, like Brandon Cooks took a few

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<v Speaker 5>Wednesdays off last year, so is a veteran's day off.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a ten year guy, he could do that.

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<v Speaker 4>So did you ever take a veteran's day off? Isaiah?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever get a chance to take take the

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<v Speaker 2>kick the feet up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>You're telling me a senior at U dub you weren't,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, coming into practice timiously.

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<v Speaker 8>And that was my get money year. I had no

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<v Speaker 8>time to be taking breaks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how much could missing Brandon Cooks this week? There's

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<v Speaker 2>not a ton of concern, at least it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 2>like it. For Mike McCarthy, there was a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of concern when he said, yeah, he should be able

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<v Speaker 2>to go. It's like, Okay, I don't like the words should.

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<v Speaker 9>No, I think he said chance, chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Even worse, So the wordage isn't necessarily great. But I

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<v Speaker 2>still have confidence that that you'll see number three out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But if he's not out there, Isaiah, how can that

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<v Speaker 2>change things?

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<v Speaker 10>Not drastically this week? And be honest with you, really,

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<v Speaker 10>this defense is not it's not really a man to

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<v Speaker 10>man defense, and these guys like to play a lot

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<v Speaker 10>of his own. So with that being the case, I'm

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<v Speaker 10>not saying that be Cooks is just like any other

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<v Speaker 10>receiver run this team, because obviously not the case. But

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<v Speaker 10>you know, we have other guys that could be serviceable

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<v Speaker 10>against this particular type of defense. So Michael Gallup could

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<v Speaker 10>have a day against these guys even Tolbert can have

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<v Speaker 10>a day against these guys, so should be Cooks be missing,

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<v Speaker 10>obviously you will miss him, but there's other guys that

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<v Speaker 10>can still the job now for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about some of the other injuries

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<v Speaker 2>that were kind of addressed. I mean, don Van Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>still trying to work back. He did not practice yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyron Smith was a full participant with the ankle in practice,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was a good sign. And then you're still

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<v Speaker 2>looking for maybe Jordan Lewis to get back in the

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<v Speaker 2>fold this week.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think about some of those things. It's

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<v Speaker 4>Lewis was active all week last week, but then he

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<v Speaker 4>was inactive for the game.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to start with Tyler Smith, just because it's

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<v Speaker 5>starting to feel like he won't play on Sunday again.

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<v Speaker 5>Whenever we asked Mike McCarthy yesterday about it, he's like

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<v Speaker 5>Donna was closer than Tyler, which you know, Donald's been

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<v Speaker 5>dealing with the injury a little bit longer, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if there's a clear eschalon there, then that probably means that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, he's probably down a little bit further than

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<v Speaker 5>we would probably want him to be.

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<v Speaker 6>And then later in the press commerce.

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<v Speaker 5>He was asked about Tchuma Udoga's performance last week and

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<v Speaker 5>he's like, yeah, you know, he stepped up to the plate.

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<v Speaker 6>He should be much more prepared this week. Now he's

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<v Speaker 6>got the full week.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, okay, so I think they're preparing

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<v Speaker 5>Tuma again for a week two. But as far as

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<v Speaker 5>Tyron Smith looks like he's good to go, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>full participant yesterday in the estimate. And then Donovan Wilson

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<v Speaker 5>would love to see his debut. But again, as we

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<v Speaker 5>spoke on it yesterday, like if it's if you, if

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<v Speaker 5>you feel like you're pushing it, there's no needs there's

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<v Speaker 5>no need to. So you know, this defense proved that

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<v Speaker 5>they're more than capable of, you know, doing things without

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<v Speaker 5>him and Jordan, but would love to get those guys

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<v Speaker 5>back on the field as suit as possible.

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<v Speaker 4>You still look concerned without Tyler Smith in the fold.

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<v Speaker 8>I would like to have him versus this front. I

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<v Speaker 8>really would.

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<v Speaker 10>The reason being, these these guys are they're pretty big humans,

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<v Speaker 10>and they're pretty strong humans. And really their way of

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<v Speaker 10>pass rush is bull rush. That's their form of that's

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<v Speaker 10>their style that they choose, right, Dallas's style is stunts, speed,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, beat you vertically or confuse you versus. These

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<v Speaker 10>guys are really just line up and we're just going

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<v Speaker 10>to push you back into the quarterback. Obviously, that is

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<v Speaker 10>the strength of Tyler Smith. He can sit up there

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<v Speaker 10>and and be broughtic with the big with the biggest

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<v Speaker 10>guys in the league. So definitely will miss most likely

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<v Speaker 10>miss that presence too, money Doga. It has good size

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<v Speaker 10>to him and hopefully he can hopefully he can buck

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<v Speaker 10>up his chin strap because he's gonna need it.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's his old team.

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<v Speaker 6>He's gonna be ready to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that what it is. He's gonna he's gonna play

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<v Speaker 4>play well against him.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Jonathan Hankins played against his team last week

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<v Speaker 2>that drafted him, and he played pretty well.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's pretty sound reasoning overall.

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<v Speaker 10>That's the that's the thing that sucks about the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 10>You can't interchange guys based upon best matchups. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>you need chemistry. You know, if I was if you

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<v Speaker 10>were able to interchange guys and chemistry wasn't really a factor,

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<v Speaker 10>then I would put t J.

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<v Speaker 8>Bass in this game because TJ.

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<v Speaker 10>Bass is bigger in my opinion, he's a big bigger,

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<v Speaker 10>more brawlic uh kind of road greater type of guy,

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<v Speaker 10>right like, once you get in their physical old school irishman,

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<v Speaker 10>right like. I think that's his style and I think

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<v Speaker 10>that will work well against this defensive.

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<v Speaker 8>Front Chimmy Douga.

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<v Speaker 10>I think he should be serviceable as well, and being

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<v Speaker 10>based upon his size, I think he has problems when

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<v Speaker 10>guys are able to move and get around him. Right,

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<v Speaker 10>So this is gonna be in a phone boo. It's

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<v Speaker 10>gonna be strength on strength and who can really hunker

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<v Speaker 10>down and put their foot in the ground, which also

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<v Speaker 10>makes you want to turn your attention towards Tyrone Smith

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<v Speaker 10>and find out how how strong that ankle is.

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<v Speaker 4>How'd you feel like he played in Week one?

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<v Speaker 8>I feel like he did really pretty good. I felt

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<v Speaker 8>he did pretty good.

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<v Speaker 10>But again, you know, that's that style of rush that

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<v Speaker 10>he that that we dealt with last week is not

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<v Speaker 10>what he's going to see.

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<v Speaker 8>This week's different. Yeah, it's totally different.

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<v Speaker 4>What did you think about Tyron Smith? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I really solid.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was a sound effort, you know, all

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<v Speaker 5>the way from both tackles with Tyrone and Terrence. Terrence

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<v Speaker 5>had one bad penal leave, but other than that, it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was mostly pretty clean. You know, I didn't love

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<v Speaker 5>Beotish's performance, and I know we talked about that, but

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<v Speaker 5>the more I've gone back to watch film from that game,

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<v Speaker 5>the more I see Beyondash calling out things pre snap

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<v Speaker 5>and that just I love to see that, like that's

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<v Speaker 5>that's invaluable. But as far as post snap, I feel

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<v Speaker 5>like he could have cleaned some things up and had

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<v Speaker 5>a better day overall. But Tyron, overall, I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>he performed well my expectation for him.

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<v Speaker 6>It was met. I wouldn't say it was exceeded, but

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<v Speaker 6>it was met.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, And I think there's ways that they can

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<v Speaker 2>still see in Uptick. I mean, you were able to

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<v Speaker 2>pave the way for the run early. You were able

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<v Speaker 2>to get things going on the ground initially, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the game was out of hand at that point, so

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't really matter towards the back end. But I

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about the run game specifically this week

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not going to be easy to run against

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<v Speaker 2>this front and John. I mean, we've talked at nauseum

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<v Speaker 2>about the number two and number three running backs, Rico

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<v Speaker 2>Dawdle and of course Douce Vaughn. But Tony Pollard, he

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<v Speaker 2>was limited. He had the two touchdowns, sounded good. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to do a whole lot. Do you expect

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<v Speaker 2>more out of Tony Pollard just from a usage standpoint

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<v Speaker 2>in week two than you did in week one or

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<v Speaker 2>you saw in week one?

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<v Speaker 9>Not much?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 7>I think if anything, you might see more of Rico Dautle,

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<v Speaker 7>maybe you see more Deuce Vawn. I could see Turpin

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<v Speaker 7>getting a similar workload. So I guess it depends on

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<v Speaker 7>how the game goes.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>If there's certain situations where they just feel that way

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<v Speaker 7>better off of Tony Pollard out there, they will be.

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<v Speaker 7>But I just I don't get the sense at all

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<v Speaker 7>that they're going to be throwing him out there for

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<v Speaker 7>twenty twenty five carries a game.

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<v Speaker 9>I just really don't.

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<v Speaker 7>I think he's too valuable for the law on haul

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<v Speaker 7>and what he can bring them in January. So I

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<v Speaker 7>think that it's going to be managed to where he's

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<v Speaker 7>out there in the right situations.

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<v Speaker 9>And obviously that was the case on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 7>They didn't have to give him the huge workload, but

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<v Speaker 7>I think he had I want to say, like maybe eighteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Touches I can give you for sure.

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<v Speaker 9>I think it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Around fourteen attempts and he had two receptions.

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<v Speaker 4>Sixteen sixteen touches.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, I think that that's about right. Yeah, keep

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<v Speaker 9>that around twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Dawbdell had six carries, did not have a target.

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<v Speaker 2>Turpin of course, had three carries, he had the touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you like the wrinkle of Turpin being thrown in

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<v Speaker 4>there as a running back?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we talked about it a little bit on

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<v Speaker 2>Hit Sticks earlier this week, But he's not a running back,

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<v Speaker 2>but they can use him in that standpoint kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the same way they use Deuce Vaughan.

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<v Speaker 4>In certain situations.

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<v Speaker 10>If he's on the field, he's not pass blocking, I

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<v Speaker 10>can tell you that much. Yeah, So I do like

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<v Speaker 10>to I like it for two reasons. I like it

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<v Speaker 10>from a standpoint that you're taking carries off of Tony

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<v Speaker 10>Pollard because they favor each other in their their dynamic

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<v Speaker 10>ability to make a play, right and in terms of

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<v Speaker 10>trying to outflank and use your speed and hit the

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<v Speaker 10>hole and get up there and make somebody miss. So

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<v Speaker 10>if you're gonna have somebody that can take carries off

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<v Speaker 10>him and you can get the same effectiveness.

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<v Speaker 8>From that standpoint, then why not. And then from the

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<v Speaker 8>other standpoint that.

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<v Speaker 10>You keep guys under toes and you find a way

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<v Speaker 10>to get the ball into your playmaker's hands. You know,

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<v Speaker 10>Turping is a supreme runner right with the ball in

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<v Speaker 10>his hand, he just is. You know, you don't have

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<v Speaker 10>to really worry about it except for the preseason game

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<v Speaker 10>about him fumbling. So you can trust him in that regard,

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<v Speaker 10>and he's gonna make He's gonna be a matchup nightmare.

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<v Speaker 10>Now once he comes into the game personnel wise, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>when you're in a huddle. That's what's how that's how

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<v Speaker 10>defenses are are are scripting.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, let me back up. A defensive coordinator sitting in

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<v Speaker 8>the booth.

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<v Speaker 10>He's watching players come on the field as soon as

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<v Speaker 10>he sees what players come on the field for the offense.

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<v Speaker 10>Now he's calling his defense based upon the guys that

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<v Speaker 10>are coming in for offense. So if you see Turping

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<v Speaker 10>coming in, okay, obviously you have a four receivers on

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<v Speaker 10>the field at one time. Okay, now you're sending out

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<v Speaker 10>your dying but all of us and Turping lines up

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<v Speaker 10>in the backfield. Oh crap, right, now we're now we're

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<v Speaker 10>in a bad situation, right, So it's a mismatched nightmare

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<v Speaker 10>for teams. And yes, they're gonna still try to match

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<v Speaker 10>up based upon personnel. But when he lines up in

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<v Speaker 10>the backfield, now all of a sudden, you only got

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<v Speaker 10>five guys in the box, you have some things to

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<v Speaker 10>worry about.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you love it still? In goal line situations?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I figure him being as a running back, it

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<v Speaker 5>would be most effective between the thirties, get him out

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<v Speaker 5>in the open field where he can break off and

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<v Speaker 5>get loose with a big hole, but in the goal line,

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<v Speaker 5>where everything's much more compact.

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<v Speaker 6>I think he was only one.

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<v Speaker 5>For three on goal line opportunities on Sunday, So I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know if I love goal line, But do you do?

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<v Speaker 6>You have the same sentiment.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't have an issue with it because you think

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<v Speaker 10>about it from like, what this is going to sound bad,

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<v Speaker 10>somebody's gonna take the offense of this. But what does

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<v Speaker 10>Tony Pollard provide for you on the goal line that

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<v Speaker 10>Turpin doesn't.

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<v Speaker 9>It's a little bit more physicality and more size.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, when the last time you saw Tony Pauler

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<v Speaker 8>run through somebody on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean Sunday on the goal line.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, he'll run through something.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, I'm not saying that he can't, but I'm

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<v Speaker 10>saying that's not his thing. I mean, I'm saying, you

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<v Speaker 10>want to run through somebody, you put reco on the game, right,

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<v Speaker 10>you want to talk about somebody running in tight spaces. Well,

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<v Speaker 10>Turpen's kind of your guy, right, what does he do

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<v Speaker 10>as a part returner? You run through tight spaces?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 10>Right, So, I mean so it's not like he has

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<v Speaker 10>an inability to be able to run the ball down there. Sure,

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<v Speaker 10>it's just out of the box thinking and people are

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<v Speaker 10>struggling with that.

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<v Speaker 7>And I liked how you mentioned just him even having

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<v Speaker 7>him out there, what it does for opposing defenses that

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<v Speaker 7>are watching it, Because there were some plays in that

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<v Speaker 7>game that maybe they didn't have the biggest success, but

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<v Speaker 7>like the dack keeper down in the red zone off

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<v Speaker 7>when he ran to the left, Like, yeah, did they

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<v Speaker 7>score a touchdown?

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<v Speaker 11>No?

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<v Speaker 7>But you liked that they're still showing, Hey, you have

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<v Speaker 7>to account for the quarterback here. It's yeah, is he

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<v Speaker 7>running like twenty sixteen? No, but you still have to

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<v Speaker 7>count for it. We're still going to show that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>and probably my favorite play in the game was this

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<v Speaker 7>was the screen of power. I know he fumbled, but

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<v Speaker 7>the way they brought CD in motion and then he

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<v Speaker 7>circled around the gun and then came back out still

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<v Speaker 7>to the left, Like they didn't throw to CD, but

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<v Speaker 7>it is the most that's the playmaker you worry the

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<v Speaker 7>most about in defense, and it still did enough to

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<v Speaker 7>like draw some attention there, so then they could throw

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<v Speaker 7>the screen back to the right like that. Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>they didn't throw to CD, but you can off of that.

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<v Speaker 7>And just to put that out there, there was just

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<v Speaker 7>there was a few plays in there that I just

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<v Speaker 7>really liked that. Like I said, it didn't hit big,

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<v Speaker 7>but you can see what some big things that could

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<v Speaker 7>come off of it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think that's that that creativity is what we've

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<v Speaker 2>been waiting for. We were talking about it on Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>last week of get the screen Game going. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>get it, get it rolling, and you're gonna use it

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<v Speaker 2>with Turpin, You're gonna use it with Pollard, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>use it with Douce Vaughan, and those are gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>guys that the screen game allows uh or that allow

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<v Speaker 2>the screen game to open up.

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<v Speaker 7>You also need a healthy offensive line to have some

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<v Speaker 7>success and happening where you like from week to week.

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<v Speaker 9>Maybe you have the same five guys. I know this

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<v Speaker 9>is crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I know, I know, but it happens sometimes. But

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<v Speaker 7>if you have that, I just wonder how much.

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<v Speaker 9>Continuity there really was maybe, And.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, let's be honest, since Micha McCarthy's been the

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<v Speaker 7>head coach, it just really not had some good health

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<v Speaker 7>in the offensive line. I think having you know, several

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<v Speaker 7>weeks in a row with Tyron out there, Terrence Steele, Zach, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I think that could be that could help the screen

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<v Speaker 7>game as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we need to buy like a wood plant. We

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<v Speaker 6>knock on this.

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<v Speaker 9>You don't think, what do you think that is?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like plywood, like it's okay, it's just there,

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<v Speaker 2>which I mean, it's got wood in the name, So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>It's true work. I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a healthy offensive line is always going to

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<v Speaker 2>help this offense move forward. But you can't count on that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why we had a problem with the offensive

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<v Speaker 2>line depth at the beginning at the beginning of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you're already seeing it with Tyler Smith and

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<v Speaker 2>Tyron Smith.

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<v Speaker 4>Last week there was a bit of a scare.

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<v Speaker 2>Luckily true, Modoga came back in and did a nice job.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyron Smith was healthy enough to play. It looks like

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be the case going into week two. But you

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<v Speaker 2>still don't necessarily feel comfortable with it.

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<v Speaker 4>But it just it opens so many things up.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can have all five of those guys up front,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a completely different ball game. And we're talking and

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<v Speaker 2>nitpicking on an offense that one thirty or I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, forty to nothing in week one. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of that came from the defense and the special teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course we know that, but the offense did some

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff too, and they were able to put drives together.

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<v Speaker 4>They were able to make it look good.

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<v Speaker 2>And Isaya even talked about it prior to really the

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<v Speaker 2>introduction to the West Coast offense. It's not always pretty,

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<v Speaker 2>and nor will it, but it's going to get the

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<v Speaker 2>job done because it's supposed to help you help your

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<v Speaker 2>defense and be complimentary to the other two units.

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<v Speaker 10>Absolutely, and you're going to see more of that. I

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<v Speaker 10>truly believe that you're going to see more of that. However,

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<v Speaker 10>I think it's going to be a completely different approach

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<v Speaker 10>this week. And like as I as I look at

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<v Speaker 10>this this defense of the Jets, they're they're huge up front.

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<v Speaker 8>They're huge upfront. I mean these guys.

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<v Speaker 10>The smallest lineman they have, I think they have one

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<v Speaker 10>hundred and sixty five pounds defensive end.

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<v Speaker 8>Other than that it's two three hundred.

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<v Speaker 10>Like they're ginormous, and they're athletic, but they don't use

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<v Speaker 10>their athleticism right, right, So they want to to gap you,

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<v Speaker 10>right And for those that don't know what two gap is,

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<v Speaker 10>that means. I want to be in my three point stands.

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<v Speaker 10>Come off the ball, put both hands on your chest,

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<v Speaker 10>grab your chest, your your chest piece, and drive you

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<v Speaker 10>back into the quarterback. I want to constrict your ability

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<v Speaker 10>to rend the ball. I want to take away your

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<v Speaker 10>running lanes, and I want to take away your quarterback's pocket.

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<v Speaker 8>That that's the benefit of a two gap.

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<v Speaker 10>So when you have usually most teams have one guy

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<v Speaker 10>as good at two gapping, these guys have four.

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<v Speaker 8>That's me. That's what they're doing. That's their style.

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<v Speaker 10>They are not generic pass rushers in the sense that

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<v Speaker 10>they're going to go out there and try to up

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<v Speaker 10>and under They don't have a Michael Parsons, they don't

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<v Speaker 10>have a d Law, they don't have a Sam Way,

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<v Speaker 10>they don't they don't have any of those type of

0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.720
<v Speaker 10>guys Like Cowboys Nation is very familiar with guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>getting those one on one matchups and just making somebody

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<v Speaker 10>just miss.

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<v Speaker 8>That's not this team.

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<v Speaker 10>This team wants to drive you back into the ball,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, to the quarterback or into the lap of

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<v Speaker 10>the runner.

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<v Speaker 8>What does that do for you offensively?

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<v Speaker 5>Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about it in the second back bet I

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<v Speaker 2>like it? Yeah, how about that for a tease? How

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<v Speaker 2>does that change things offensively? We'll get Isaiah's full scouting report.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about this Jets defense in the matchup for

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys offense.

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<v Speaker 4>When we come back with more talking Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 12>bought online was reliable. And now Todd is trying to

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<v Speaker 12>be faster than this cheetah that can run eighty miles

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<v Speaker 12>per hour. But the good news is Todd has at

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<v Speaker 2>John Machoda, Isaiah stand back, Chris Beam in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of Kyle the omens. All right, Isaiah, you've you've crunched

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<v Speaker 2>the film, you've broken this thing down. I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to tell me about the Jets defense. They're complete scouting

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<v Speaker 2>report and how it could change things this week for

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys offense game plan wise. There are gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>times this year where Isaiah will say that.

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<v Speaker 4>What team did you call compost last year?

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<v Speaker 10>A few you will hear it this week this year.

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<v Speaker 10>Sometimes it's not gonna be this week though. This team

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<v Speaker 10>is not compost on the defense.

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<v Speaker 4>They have some dudes offense.

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<v Speaker 10>On offense, they have guys, But I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 10>be a rough night for them. Yeah, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 10>a rough knight for Wilson. Okay, let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 10>So defense, so defensively, their defensive front is their strength

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<v Speaker 10>of their team.

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<v Speaker 8>All right. Everybody can talk about Salis Gardner all day long.

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<v Speaker 10>Sauce Gardner is a dude, but how they utilize these

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<v Speaker 10>and how he gets his opportunities to come from this

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<v Speaker 10>front right, and it's really the front six.

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<v Speaker 8>I wouldn't even call it the front seven. Defensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 10>Obviously everybody knows Keenan uh it, Keenan, Quinn, Quinn, Quinn, Quinn, Quinn, Williams. Okay,

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<v Speaker 10>he's a dude, but he he's not as much of

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<v Speaker 10>a dude as I as I would expect him to

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<v Speaker 10>be as I watch him on film, and I think

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<v Speaker 10>because he has one style that I've seen, I think

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<v Speaker 10>he is limited. I think he's very limited. Now is

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<v Speaker 10>he dominant in that one way of going about it?

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<v Speaker 10>It's almost like if you took Michael Parsons and said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 10>Michael Parson's gonna line up outside.

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<v Speaker 8>He's going to run outside you every single time. Good

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<v Speaker 8>luck trying to keep up?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, right, play linebacker like he didn't come Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 10>mean lineman that like, they'll be happy to know that

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<v Speaker 10>he's going to do that every single time. But can

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<v Speaker 10>you stop it? No, you probably still can't stop a

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<v Speaker 10>majority of the times. And that's really how Quinn and

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<v Speaker 10>Williams is as well. So he's gonna two.

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<v Speaker 9>You realize he was the third over pick in that

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<v Speaker 9>twent nineteen drafts.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was didn't realize.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, he just got paid again.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a chance they were going to trade him

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<v Speaker 2>and Dallas was an interested team. It just was back

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<v Speaker 2>in like this is the the Jamal Adams trade time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like there was a there was a time

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<v Speaker 2>where it's like Dallas was kind of throwing their hat

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<v Speaker 2>in the ring of like we would like to maybe

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<v Speaker 2>throw something at you for Quinn Williams and Jets are like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, we'll hold on.

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<v Speaker 9>So if he was in this defense, he would be

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<v Speaker 9>used differently.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh man, oh, if he was in this defense, I

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<v Speaker 10>wouldn't say that he'd be used differently. I think that

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<v Speaker 10>he would be a great accomplishe to to Hankas, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>I mean.

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<v Speaker 8>He he does what you hope Mazi will do. Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>pretty much. That's probably That's probably the best way.

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<v Speaker 6>Of saying basically just using his strength to.

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<v Speaker 8>Be using your strength to be purely just.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't need you to I don't need you picking

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<v Speaker 10>a side. That's what our defense is kind of falling

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<v Speaker 10>into right now. We'll touch base on that in film

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<v Speaker 10>room this week. But you know, our defense likes to

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<v Speaker 10>jump around and like the stunt a lot. There's a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of cross there's a ton of movement, right, So

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<v Speaker 10>there's benefits of that when you get your matchups, but

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<v Speaker 10>you can get out of place as well. This team

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<v Speaker 10>isn't going to get out of place. They're always going

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<v Speaker 10>to be where they're supposed to be. But you have

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<v Speaker 10>to drive them off the ball. You have to use

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<v Speaker 10>your combo blocks, your double teams to get these guys

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<v Speaker 10>moving the opposite direction because if you don't, they will

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<v Speaker 10>disrupt everything you have going on in the backfield. So

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<v Speaker 10>as we talk about at you money Doga's that is

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<v Speaker 10>a potential red flag if he can't hold the fort,

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<v Speaker 10>because they will obviously try to expose him in that regard.

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<v Speaker 10>But that the front four of those guys is pretty

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<v Speaker 10>dark on solid right, all right, So ninety five, ninety three,

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<v Speaker 10>ninety one, Okay, those are the main guys that you

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<v Speaker 10>have to worry about. I think the most impactful aspect

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<v Speaker 10>of their defense are their linebackers.

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<v Speaker 8>Dogs, complete utter dogs.

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<v Speaker 10>And one thing that we've talked about in the past

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<v Speaker 10>is the reason why Dallas Dallas's defense a front is

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<v Speaker 10>so important. While we need interior linemen that can hold

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<v Speaker 10>the ford and demand double teams is because what what

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<v Speaker 10>does it do for your second level? Allows for your

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<v Speaker 10>second level to free flow? Well, guess what that is

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<v Speaker 10>exactly what they do in New York. New York has

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<v Speaker 10>their down linemen. These guys are gonna two gap.

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<v Speaker 8>You better.

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<v Speaker 10>You better get a little shoulder on them or something

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<v Speaker 10>to stop the men from coming forward.

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<v Speaker 8>Otherwise you're gonna be in the quarterback's lap.

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<v Speaker 10>But those guys are taking up your linemen so that

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<v Speaker 10>their second level guys can free flow. And those are

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<v Speaker 10>their playmakers. So their playmakers are that and CJ. Moseley

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<v Speaker 10>out of Baltimore, uh and in Quincy Williams. So fifty

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<v Speaker 10>six to fifty seven. So as fans, as you're watching

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<v Speaker 10>the game, fifty six to fifty seven. Those dudes are dudes,

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<v Speaker 10>and they fly around. They are they have the energy

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<v Speaker 10>of what I would call.

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<v Speaker 8>Like a Michael Parsons.

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<v Speaker 10>They have that energy right like they're like, they're tenacious,

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<v Speaker 10>they're relentless, they are gonna they have no regard for

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<v Speaker 10>their body. They are coming downhill, they're making a decision.

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<v Speaker 10>They're trying to take your head off.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Mosely especially like he's a downhill beat.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, yes, And now there's advantages to that. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 10>advantages to that. Right, So we talk about their front

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<v Speaker 10>four really just getting vertical, right. They just want to push, push, push,

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<v Speaker 10>push push, let their linebackers free flow run to the ball.

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<v Speaker 10>But what happens when those guys are overly aggressive, they oversell.

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<v Speaker 10>They oversell. So now, all of a sudden, if you

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<v Speaker 10>can establish a running game and demand the respect of

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<v Speaker 10>those second level guys, if you could demand the spect

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<v Speaker 10>them mostly, if you can just demand the respect of Williams,

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<v Speaker 10>then all of a sudden, you can run your play

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<v Speaker 10>action game all day long. And the reason being is

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<v Speaker 10>because these guys want to play a base defense. On

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<v Speaker 10>the back end, they are a too high defense. They

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<v Speaker 10>want to play two safeties all day, every day. There

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<v Speaker 10>are a couple of ways that I found that you

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<v Speaker 10>can force them out of a too high look, okay,

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<v Speaker 10>and that's usually comes in the form of bunch sets.

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<v Speaker 10>They don't want to play too high in bunch they

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<v Speaker 10>really don't. But and for the most part, they want

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<v Speaker 10>to play quarters coverage, which is cover four right, everybody,

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<v Speaker 10>all their guys the corners have a quarter, the safeties

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<v Speaker 10>have a quarter of the field, or they want to

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<v Speaker 10>play Cover two right, and the corners are sitting five yards.

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<v Speaker 8>The safeties have that the haves one thing that they

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<v Speaker 8>do really.

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<v Speaker 10>Well of and it's screwed the crap out of Josh

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<v Speaker 10>Allen is they don't like to just play two and

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<v Speaker 10>just play four. And sometimes they want to play two

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<v Speaker 10>on one side of the field and they want to

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<v Speaker 10>play four on the other side, or they want to

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<v Speaker 10>play two on one side of the field and they

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<v Speaker 10>want to play man on the other side of the field.

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<v Speaker 10>So what Josh Allen ran into, and the reason why

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<v Speaker 10>he threw three picks other day, is because of the

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<v Speaker 10>fact that he was seeing the front side of the

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<v Speaker 10>coverage and he wasn't picking up that they were running

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<v Speaker 10>a completely different coverage on the backside. So when he

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<v Speaker 10>had guys running deep routes and backside posts and over routes, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>I see what they're running front side.

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<v Speaker 8>Cool, got that diagnosed.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, So if I see that and I know they're

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<v Speaker 10>running Cover four over here, that means that the guy's

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<v Speaker 10>open on the backside over here shooting. Yeah, he's just

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<v Speaker 10>shooting over there, right, Because he was assuming that the

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<v Speaker 10>coverage was the same on the other half of the field.

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<v Speaker 10>They were really dividing their coverage right down the middle

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<v Speaker 10>right cover for this side, cover two backside, man on

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<v Speaker 10>this side, cover two backside right. So he was getting

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<v Speaker 10>screwed because he wasn't diagnosing the entire play. So that's

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<v Speaker 10>something that Dak's going to have to be uber aware

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<v Speaker 10>of as he goes out there and starts trying to

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<v Speaker 10>throw some of these routes because you have to see

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<v Speaker 10>the entire field. They do a good job with their

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<v Speaker 10>safeties of making it look like the base coverage when

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<v Speaker 10>in reality, this half is one coverage, that half's another.

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<v Speaker 2>So if that's the case, there's no such way that

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<v Speaker 2>Dak can come up to the line of scrimmage other

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<v Speaker 2>than just watching film and knowing that it's a possible

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<v Speaker 2>ability he can diagnose that pre snap. That's all post

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<v Speaker 2>snap diagnosis quarterback.

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<v Speaker 10>So as a quarterback, when you step to the line

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<v Speaker 10>of scrimm, it's you. It's a process of elimination. Right,

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<v Speaker 10>So I stepped to the line of scrimmage, I see

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<v Speaker 10>two safeties, Okay. Automatically my mind goes to okay, either

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.679
<v Speaker 10>it's cover two or cover four. Usually that's where my

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<v Speaker 10>mind goes. Okay, great for running the ball against. So

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<v Speaker 10>the ability to run the ball awesome if you can

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<v Speaker 10>get these guys moving in opposite direction on the front. Okay,

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<v Speaker 10>but easier said than Donehen you got three hundred pounds

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<v Speaker 10>across the d line that played with good pad level

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<v Speaker 10>and have good strength, and the linebackers can roam free

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<v Speaker 10>without alignment being able to work up to them. So

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<v Speaker 10>Tony Pollard and you know, Rico, You're gonna have to

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 10>make a man miss. You have to run through a

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 10>guy who doesn't care about his face because he's going

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.439
<v Speaker 10>to come and try to try to take your chest out.

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 10>But on the backside, Daxson have to come up and

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 10>really diagnosis. So pre stap okay, cover two. Okay, that's

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 10>safety is a little bit, a little bit deeper than

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 10>the other. Okay, I'll keep my eye on it. Okay,

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 10>I snapped the ball, now, what is it?

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 8>Right?

0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 10>It doesn't become too much of a problem when I'm

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 10>in my typical drop back, but it does become a

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 10>problem when I'm in play action, because when I'm in

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 10>play action, Okay, I'm diagnosed.

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 8>Okay, so two is it? Four? Okay? I snapped the ball?

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 10>Now I'm doing what as a quarterback, I'm turning my

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.439
<v Speaker 10>back to the coverage right. So when I turn my

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 10>back to the coverage right, I have my pre snap.

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 10>But now I don't get my post snap until I

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 10>get my head back around, and I have to reevaluate

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 10>what that defense is within what half a second to

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 10>make my decision based upon what.

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 8>I thought it was. So that's where he is terrible.

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.360
<v Speaker 8>It is terrible. It is terrible, But that's the reality.

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 8>Will Yeah. So I was sitting there talking to my wife.

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 10>Last night when I was watching film, and she's sitting

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 10>there and and she's like, what do you what are

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 10>you watching? I was watching the game, you know, and

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 10>I'm like, man, I showed her one pass rush and

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 10>she was like, man, why did he take someone?

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 8>I said, who whaha whoa.

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 10>I said, you have maybe two and a half seconds,

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 10>Like maybe two and a half seconds. She looked at

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 10>me like I was crazy. I was like, no, no,

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 10>to count this out. Count this out, because on the

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 10>play it looked like he had all day long. But

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 10>in reality, Josh Allen ended up getting sacked on a

0:28:58.520 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 10>two and a half second drop.

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 8>I'm like, it comes at you fast.

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they put the clock on the Dallas defense

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 2>getting after Daniel Jones and it was like two point three,

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and they had the clock on it on the NBC

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 2>broadcast the other day. It's not too far off from

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 2>this New York Jets front. And I think the secondary

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 2>benefit from it. I mean, you've got a guy like

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Whitehead that had the three picks because of bad decisions,

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 2>the decision making and confusing a quarterback that's gonna have

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>to be honest reads this week.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah, and one thing that Josh Allen did. And honestly,

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 10>there's gonna be a huge opportunity for Dallas's defense as

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 10>well because the Jets offense. I know we were ready

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 10>hit on that yesterday, but these guys push everything down

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 10>the field. Everything's way down the field like they want

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 10>to sit back. And that's why I think there's gonna

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 10>be another six or seven sack game for this defense.

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 10>But the same thing with with Buffalo. They were pushing

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 10>everything down the field. And that's not the weakness of

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 10>this defense. The weakness of this defense is right in

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 10>the middle of their defense because they're relying so heavily

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 10>on mostly they were lying so heavily on Williams. At

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 10>that second level, both of those guys are being asked

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 10>to cover the entire middle of the field and they

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 10>can't because they really want to play the run.

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 5>So a lot of slant drags trying to get those

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 5>guys out in space.

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 8>Overs, overshit destroy these guys.

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 10>Okay, that's what we talk so when we talk about

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 10>be Cooks, right, that's what Bee Cooks does really well

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 10>in this offense. At least that what we saw in preseason.

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 10>What we saw at camp is a lot of over

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 10>routes and week won Yeah, right, lots of over so

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 10>overs ferguson. Okay, you should be killing them on a

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 10>little post routes, you should be killing them on corner

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 10>routes like all those type of things that's in that

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 10>middle portion of the field, right, Shallows. It should be good,

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 10>right if you can get those guys biting. Play action

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 10>is going to be a real thing this week.

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 5>So let me ask you, because I don't feel like

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 5>any of this is successful without being able to utilize

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 5>the play action, which means you gotta get the running

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 5>You got run, ye, So how do you get the

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 5>running game going?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, front like this, you're gonna have to I would

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 10>come out personally in twelve personnel and it's just bully ball.

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 8>You're big, you're strong, we know what you do, which

0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 8>you We're gonna get your moving thirteen person No, I'm

0:30:59.480 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 8>not going thirty.

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<v Speaker 5>They have a lot of plays in thirteen though on

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 5>Sunday Night, on Sunday Night, but they are pulling Jake

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 5>Ferguson and putting them in the sea gap and he's

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 5>getting it done correct.

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I really like Jake Ferguson's ability to block and his

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 2>willingness to willingness in this in this scheme and what

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 2>he was able to do. Uh in that game on

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Sunday Night, plus New York offensively ran a lot of

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>thirteen personnel. There's some some teams going back to that

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>that heavy tight end package.

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 6>To be able to try and push the balled it.

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 8>I would go.

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 10>I would go twelve, and I would not come out

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 10>in a duce set. So a duce set is when

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 10>you have just mim we have a tight end on

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 10>each side right. I would put these guys more in

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 10>a wing set, meaning that hey, I have one tight

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 10>end on line of scrimmage, I have another tight end

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 10>right in his hip pocket and the reason being because

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 10>it gives you an ability to run your combo blocks.

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 10>So you don't want to run straight down here with

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 10>these guys. Don't don't. I mean you're going to have

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 10>to try it, but the success rate is probably slimmed

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 10>to none against these guys. They're just too big, they're

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 10>too strong. This is what they do well. They want

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 10>you to run at their face, like, come come down.

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 10>I want you to come downhill. Right, I'm a two

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 10>gap you. I'm gonna throw one guy one direction. I'm

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 10>gonna get my arm out there, and then my linebackers

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 10>are filling the gaps, right, They're gonna knock the crap

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 10>out of your chin strap. So you want to get

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 10>these guys moving sideways. The linemen don't do well moving sideways.

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 10>But what happens is if you can't get off of

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 10>the defensive linemen. Though again, Moseley and Williams are literally

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.239
<v Speaker 10>free flowing. I mean they're coming one hundred miles per

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 10>hour and they're knocking the crap out of you at

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 10>the line of scrimmage, if not behind the line of scrimmage.

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 10>So if you have those combo blocks by your tight ends,

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 10>now you can outflake the defensive line right, and your

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 10>tight ends can now work up and seal those guys

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 10>as they free flow. On the second level, now you

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 10>have some lanes because those cornerbacks don't want to come

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 10>up and hit. Those cornerbacks are playing out in coverage, right,

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 10>you could run your guys off as if they're running

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 10>a route and get them out the picture.

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 8>And really have an opportunity to get some big plays

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 8>on the ground.

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Williams had ten tackles in Sunday Night Football excuse me,

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Monday Night Football for the Jets, and he was ranked

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 2>as the seventh out of seventy three linebackers. So I mean,

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>the second level of that Jets defense is very good,

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 2>but it's mostly because of what Quinn Williams is doing

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 2>up run and how they're paving the way consuming John.

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>When you look at the Jets defense and you've kind

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>of done your study on them, how do they compare

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 2>to some of the defenses that the Cowboys have seen

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 2>in the past, because Giants had a solid front seven,

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 2>but they didn't necessarily have the experience on the outside

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>before that.

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 4>You go back to San Francisco.

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Of course, San Francisco in the playoff game had a

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 2>phenomenal defense and that's why they did what they did.

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 4>In the last couple of years.

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 2>But where do you think the Jets defense, now that

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>you've kind of looked at it a little bit, kind

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 2>of ranks along the lines of some of the past

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 2>defense as Cowboys offenses have gone against.

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 9>I think it's up there with all of them.

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 7>And that's why it's going to be good to see

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 7>because it is going to be that type of a

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 7>playoff type defense that you're going against that Let's be honest,

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 7>the last two times that the Cowboys were in the playoffs,

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 7>they got sent home because they played probably the best

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 7>defense in the NFL. And so I think there's a

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 7>lot of us wondering, Okay, then how are they going

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 7>to how are they going to do against one of

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 7>these this type of test also coming off of a

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 7>game that you can factor in a lot of first

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 7>time Mike McCarthy is a play caller, sloppy weather, you're

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 7>not going to have that you're inside, you're at home,

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 7>you're gonna be pretty hyped up. I mean talking to

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 7>Brandon Cooks at his locker after like the whole group left,

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 7>you know, he's asked about like how much they even

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 7>showed on offense, and he was like, no, no, no, we

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 7>haven't really shown it. There's a lot that we haven't

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 7>even come close to getting too yet. So going against

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 7>an elite defense like this, like, I don't think they're

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.240
<v Speaker 7>San Francisco elite, but I think they're one of the best,

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.400
<v Speaker 7>one of the better defenses in the league. So just

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 7>to see Dak and some of these wide receivers, seeing

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 7>Jalen Tolbert, seeing the kind of success he can have.

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 9>But I also wonder with a.

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 7>Guy like like a Jordan Whitehead, you know, I think

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 7>this is fifth or six year in the league, never

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 7>had more than two picks in an entire season, and

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 7>then he has three in one game. He is he

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 7>had a hot handed he was he in the right

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:46.439
<v Speaker 7>place at the right time. Is that does that carry

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:50.399
<v Speaker 7>Does that carry over? And then there's Sauce Gardner back there,

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:53.439
<v Speaker 7>that that so, and then all this stuff. Obviously Isaiah said,

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 7>there's just there's gonna be a lot of stuff to

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 7>evaluate Dak off of this game, maybe more so than

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 7>than the last game. So that's kind of excuse me,

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 7>That's how I kind of look at it. It's just like,

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:04.359
<v Speaker 7>all right, this will give us a chance early on

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 7>to see how this this offense will stack up against

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 7>a defense that that's certainly going to be better than

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 7>the Giants was.

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 4>Would you say this is an elite defense that they're

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:12.760
<v Speaker 4>going up against.

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 7>I think he has a chance to be Yeah, I

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 7>mean it's super early, but I mean, yeah, there's a

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.399
<v Speaker 7>lot of question marks about their quarterback. But if they're

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 7>going to have the type of success that they expect

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 7>to have, well, let's say even if they had Aaron Rodgers,

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 7>sure they weren't going to get to whatever level that

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.359
<v Speaker 7>they wanted to. Like, you know, if you're making picks

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 7>at the end of the year, there's a lot of

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 7>people that thought, you know, Jets could win that division,

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 7>possibly the super Bowl. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers a big part

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 7>of it, but it's also because of that defense, you know. So,

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 7>like I said, it's not San Francisco's, it's not Dallas's.

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 8>They should put them.

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 10>They went into this season realizing that, hey, if we

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 10>have a quarterback, we have a chance because our defense

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 10>is so good.

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, would you put them up there with let's say,

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 2>here's some of the San Francisco, Dallas, Philadelphia New England's

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:59.280
<v Speaker 2>defense is still legitimate. Yeah, Pittsburgh got a good defense,

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Washington's got a solid front seven, Miami's got a good defense,

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore always does.

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:05.320
<v Speaker 4>Would you put them up there kind of.

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:10.320
<v Speaker 2>With the the Eagles and the Cowboys and the forty nine.

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:13.240
<v Speaker 9>Team, it'd be like the next tier.

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:14.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the second tier down.

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but it's it's certainly close for sure. I look

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 7>at the Cowboys even, I just think that there's just

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 7>more playmakers on all three levels. So that's the only

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 7>reason why I wouldn't put them there. But most of

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 7>the times, anytime you have, you know, a defensive head coach,

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 7>your defense is probably going to be pretty good, and

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 7>if it's not, then that coach isn't gonna be very long.

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 4>That's this is gonna be such a fun challenge for

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<v Speaker 4>this offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you said, the last two times they've been bounced

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<v Speaker 2>offense to try and find that rhythm early in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Season when we come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, on talking Cowboys, who's the most polarizing figure in

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<v Speaker 2>the NF right now without Aaron Rodgers and without Tom Brady. Plus,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about Dak Prescott being the most tenured player

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<v Speaker 4>And he put up a a it was.

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<v Speaker 2>A graphic and it was Dak Prescott is now the

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<v Speaker 2>most tenured quarterback in the NFL. He's been with the

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<v Speaker 2>team the longest He's continued to be with the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>for the longest amount of time that any quarterback in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL has been with a certain team.

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<v Speaker 4>Nick, does that give.

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<v Speaker 2>Any sort of advantage whatsoever to being the most tenured.

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<v Speaker 2>It's It's an interesting stat because it feels like just

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday he was one of the young guns in the league.

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<v Speaker 6>It is crazy. Whenever I saw that yesterday, I was like, wow,

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 6>like you posted that gift.

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 4>Of like Keenan Thomas.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, it's very much how I felt about it too.

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<v Speaker 5>Advantage if there is, you could say, just experiencing and

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<v Speaker 5>knowing what to expect when you walk in the building.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>Even let's look at Aaron Rodgers case.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he's had what was at eighteen years in

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<v Speaker 5>Green Bay and then you know, walks into a new

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 5>situation in New York, pretending he's healthy. Walking into a

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 5>new situation in New York, He's having to get used

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<v Speaker 5>to a new system, a new home stadium, you know,

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 5>a new and new weapons around him. But you know,

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 5>at the end of the day, he's still Aaron Rodgers.

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 5>He's going to have more experience than Dak Prescott. At

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 5>the end of the day, he's going to be able

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:54.839
<v Speaker 5>to overcome that a lot quicker. So it's like, yeah,

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 5>there's an advantage of just knowing what to expect when

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 5>you walk in the door every Sunday, But I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think it's one that decides win and losses.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think the biggest thing is just the Dallas

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 7>Cowboys brand and everything that comes with being the Cowboys quarterback.

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 9>To be experienced through that.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll just use this saying that I've heard him say

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 7>a bunch of that water off a duck's back, like

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 7>allowing things to just move on. And he said that

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 7>early in his career, and I'm sure that he did

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 7>deal with it as well as pretty much anybody could.

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.319
<v Speaker 7>But then there's another thing of just like every year

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 7>that goes by, there's just certain things that happened that

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:28.879
<v Speaker 7>you're gonna be able to handle better because you're like, yeah,

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 7>I get it's I got to just deal with this,

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 7>like I don't know, I'm just gonna let me think

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:34.280
<v Speaker 7>of oh, I don't know, like trading for a tree lance.

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<v Speaker 7>You probably handle that a little bit better now than

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 7>maybe you would have handled it earlier in his career.

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:39.799
<v Speaker 7>There's just a lot of stuff that comes with being

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 7>the Cowboys quarterback. The thing I always say is that,

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<v Speaker 7>like I don't believe Tom Brady wins seven Super Bowls

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<v Speaker 7>if he's then his entire careers with the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 7>I just think that there's so many other things that

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 7>come with it that I think they would. It's a

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<v Speaker 7>lot for anybody mentally.

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<v Speaker 9>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>You can stay off social media and do all that,

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 7>but there's still it's it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 9>You can't live in a bubble. You know, There's always

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 9>going to be stuff.

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 7>That that you hear, and it's it's not the easiest

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 7>to deal with. So yes, obviously to your point all

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:07.919
<v Speaker 7>the stuff on the field, but I think of even

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 7>off the field stuff. I just being the Cowboys franchise

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 7>quarterback is is just it's not for everybody, you know,

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 7>it's it's there's more to it than than it is

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 7>for a lot of the other organizations.

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<v Speaker 5>How many Super Bowls does Tom Brady win if he's

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<v Speaker 5>the quarterback of the Cowboys this whole career, thinking about

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<v Speaker 5>the teams that he would have.

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<v Speaker 9>Had, Okay, the entire time, including the time he was

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<v Speaker 9>with the Bucks.

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<v Speaker 6>Ye yeah, say your entire career three to five Okay,

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 6>do you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know what years seven? Uh seven?

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<v Speaker 9>Maybe, yeah, that's a possibility. Fourteen sixteen, maybe that's tough.

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<v Speaker 7>You got to be so bad in fifteen to get

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<v Speaker 7>the drafts of sixteen, so maybe they never even get

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 7>that down that level. Yeah, I know it's Bill Beljick

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<v Speaker 7>could to come with him during all.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a good question, Mark too, Yeah, that would

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:55.839
<v Speaker 4>be nice. No he doesn't so.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and if there's no Bill, then yeah, I'm in

0:42:58.840 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 7>that probably three to five ring.

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<v Speaker 4>I could see that.

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 9>It would be.

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 7>Interesting to see Bill coaching with Jerry would be fascinating.

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Isaiah's like, I'm not going to say anything, You're going

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:16.399
<v Speaker 2>to stay off to the side here.

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:18.919
<v Speaker 4>What kind of the John's point?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's there's really not a more polarizing figure

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 2>in sports. I mean, there are polarizing figures in sports around,

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<v Speaker 2>but the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys is always up

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:31.240
<v Speaker 2>toward the top of the list. And without Tom Brady,

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<v Speaker 2>without now Aaron Rodgers active in twenty twenty three, where

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<v Speaker 2>does Dak rank on that list in terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>most polarizing individuals in sports? Because you could put up

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<v Speaker 2>i mean Lebron on the NBA side, Kevin Durant, probably NBA.

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 4>Side, Steph Curry, Steph Curry, Oh yeah, for sure, No doubt. Golf,

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 4>there's not.

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Tiger has always been that guy, but is

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 2>he that guy right this second? Probably not? Show Hey

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 2>in baseball, that's about the only baseball guy you would get.

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's tough, like Dak's up there in terms

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.280
<v Speaker 2>of those guys, maybe Joe Burrow now Patrick Mahomes.

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 4>I mean those guys are up there.

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<v Speaker 9>Number one in the NFL.

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but I mean Dak as the quarterback for

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys is always there.

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 7>The eyes are on Dak though for this is Michael Parsons.

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I could see that.

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:20.240
<v Speaker 5>I would put Tyreek above Dak right now, just with

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 5>all the mess that he loves to talk and he

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 5>backs it up.

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 6>It's he's started to become kind of a figure down there.

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 10>And we talked about polarizing, like I have to take

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:33.880
<v Speaker 10>the brand off of it. Why because the brand bears

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 10>majority of the weight of the polarizing, of the polarization

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:37.439
<v Speaker 10>in regards to Dak.

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 4>That's fair because the Cowboys are the most polarizing in

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 4>the NFL.

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 10>All those other individuals you mentioned they're polarizing, and their

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 10>media follows them because them, Yeah, and then what they've done.

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 10>So from that regard, I think the brand bears more

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 10>polarizing weight on Dak than Dak does on the brand.

0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 10>Tyreek Hill made a brand for himself. He don't matter

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 10>where he goes. Patrick Mahone in freaking Kansas City. You know,

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 10>we got Burrow, He's in Cincinnati, you know. Lebron doesn't

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 10>matter where he goes, you know, So he's not about

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.720
<v Speaker 10>some of these guys. I guess the player that you're following.

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 10>I don't know if Dak's hit that yet, but he

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:14.319
<v Speaker 10>has a great chance to this year.

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 7>I mean, he's already in that spot of you know,

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 7>he can retire after the season and if he wants

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:22.319
<v Speaker 7>one of those top TV jobs, he's getting it.

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you know.

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:25.879
<v Speaker 7>I mean that's just that's one of those it's those

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:30.800
<v Speaker 7>that cowboys slash, you know, like all the former players

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 7>and stuff with like Duke, that they get all these

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 7>TV jobs and.

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 9>Things like that.

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 7>And the reason I bring that up is because sometimes

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:39.400
<v Speaker 7>you're even more you become even more known for that

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 7>than you were even from your your playing days. So

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 7>when the polarizing part. I do agree with you on

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:46.359
<v Speaker 7>that the Cowboys brand. There's good and bad with it,

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 7>you know, like like I sit there and I say, oh,

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 7>you know, you know, he's had a lot to deal

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:51.879
<v Speaker 7>with whatever. Cowboys brand has also made him a lot

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 7>of money, to know what I'm saying, Like, uh so there,

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 7>you know, there's the give and take of that. But

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 7>I just think he's just wired the right way to

0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.840
<v Speaker 7>hand to handle that. That's why I don't know, it

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 7>had been kind of interesting. I know it's not good

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 7>for the Cowboys probably if he did this, But after

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 7>getting done watching that Quarterback series of Netflix, I would

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 7>have kind of liked to see dak On there just

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 7>to see because there's a lot of off the field

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:13.440
<v Speaker 7>stuff like being back at home and things like that.

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 7>I think they did a great job on it from

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 7>three different quarterback perspectives in that, but it would be

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:18.840
<v Speaker 7>interesting to see.

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 9>How the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 7>But then, you know, when he's asked about it, he

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:23.279
<v Speaker 7>was like, yeah, no, we get enough coverage here, you

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 7>know the Cowboys, which is true.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is very very true.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think we've talked about this enough and and

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<v Speaker 2>by we I mean just Cowboys Nation, Like there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>very few quarterbacks that could handle this job as well

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<v Speaker 2>as Dak Prescott does. There are very few guys that

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<v Speaker 2>can handle that level of pressure, that level of intensity

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<v Speaker 2>from a fan base that is as passionate as the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what makes it great. That's what makes Cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>Nation great is the fact that they are passionate about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does bring some ups in and bring some downs,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's got to be able to ride the wave

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, the way his face looked and just the way

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<v Speaker 7>he answered those questions on that pre game interview with

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<v Speaker 7>Melissa Stark, like it was like locked in. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 7>not We're not doing any type of ads right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you like that Campbell? Like it was like he

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<v Speaker 4>Isaiah can he can?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh?

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<v Speaker 8>I wasn't. I was irritated by that, Yeah he.

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<v Speaker 2>Can, he can, attest to it. I was sitting there,

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<v Speaker 2>I was I was not happy.

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<v Speaker 6>It was weird.

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<v Speaker 8>Like I get that TV is TV and they have

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<v Speaker 8>you know, yeah, but like, come on, he's that work.

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<v Speaker 8>He's at work at work.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the locked in that's a sacred times.

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<v Speaker 8>This is not preseason.

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<v Speaker 10>No, it's not preseason where you're trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 10>kill time, and no, this is he has prepared all

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<v Speaker 10>week for this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 9>Like, get he looks like he was ready to go.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah you got you go postgame for that. Yeah you

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<v Speaker 10>got postgame for that. Go talk to coach as he's

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<v Speaker 10>coming out of the tunnel. He has obligation to do

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<v Speaker 10>that. That sounds that's contractual, right, But talking.

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<v Speaker 2>To a coach is different than talking to your franchise

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 2>quarterback seconds before he takes the field. Now that that

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<v Speaker 2>that specific interview was pre recorded, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, just to pull the curtain back.

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<v Speaker 2>That was not a live interview right as they were

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<v Speaker 2>about to walk on to the field. It was probably

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<v Speaker 2>twenty men and a's prior to that, It was probably

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 2>before they went back into the locker room. But still,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's pregame stretching.

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<v Speaker 4>That should be a no touch zone.

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<v Speaker 8>I should player. I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll say that that should be offline.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah I'm not even as a member of the media,

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<v Speaker 7>I shouldn't says, but like I'm even good with if

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<v Speaker 7>you don't do the coaches either, Yeah, I really, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>and I guess I'm not thinking about it as much

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<v Speaker 7>from the NFL. I think for me, it's more just

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<v Speaker 7>like NBA playoff games, like you just so rarely get

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<v Speaker 7>anything that you're even like, WHOA, Okay, well that's what

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 7>they're doing. Like it's just like they're a miserable miserable

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<v Speaker 7>to a certain extent that they have to do it.

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<v Speaker 7>But they're also like a lot of these coaches, this

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<v Speaker 7>is maybe the only chance they're going to be in

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<v Speaker 7>like this deep in the playoffs and things like, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know, like I've just and like I said, you

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<v Speaker 7>rarely the return on investment is generally not great. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>it's got to the point in the NBA where one

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<v Speaker 7>of the most talked about ones is just the fact

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<v Speaker 7>of how Greg Popovich blows off the reporter. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>it's not even about like did you get anything, it's

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:56.799
<v Speaker 7>just that, oh, look at how entertaining that is. Like

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 7>he totally made that reporter look like an idiot, and

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 7>you're just like, well, why is this even being done anymore?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's a pop And then Quinn Snyder, the

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:07.919
<v Speaker 5>head coach for the Atlanta Hawks, he always like the interview, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that's starting to.

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<v Speaker 4>Pay Nothing ever good comes out of it.

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<v Speaker 8>On just put a count to it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I tried one time. It's impossible. Like that's how

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<v Speaker 5>fast he's blinking during an interview.

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<v Speaker 7>So Jason Whitney has been the one in previous years

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<v Speaker 7>that before some of those sudden that games is the

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<v Speaker 7>one that did an interview. And that's the most like

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<v Speaker 7>because Jason Witten it like that, very very media friendly,

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 7>but that's the most I've ever seen him be like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm I'll give you these answers, but I really just

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<v Speaker 7>want to run away from this as soon as possible.

0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:36.360
<v Speaker 7>I don't want to be here right now. But yeah,

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 7>it's it's rough.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, John tweeted out a video of me last

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<v Speaker 2>year with Mike McCarthy and Denver.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was that was a part.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that was that was my learning opportunity with

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<v Speaker 2>with that whole situation. But yeah, I mean, things happen

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<v Speaker 2>and you gotta you gotta roll with the punches. Both

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 2>from a media stame kind of job, so from a

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:53.960
<v Speaker 2>player standpoint, you both have a job to do and

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<v Speaker 2>you got to get through it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Pregame, halftime and postgame all you want, but pregame, especially

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<v Speaker 2>with the franchise quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's not do that. Let's not do that.

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<v Speaker 8>NBC.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, when we well, we're done for the day.

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<v Speaker 2>How about that it flew by. I thought we had

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<v Speaker 2>one more segment left. I'm trying to keep John around.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get his predictions. That's gonna do it

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<v Speaker 2>for us tomorrow. Say it with your chest, Friday, bring

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<v Speaker 2>the energy. We'll give our pick'ems. We'll already have John's

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<v Speaker 2>in the bank and we will get you ready for

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<v Speaker 2>the Week two matchup with the New York Jets. For

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Beam in the back, Isaiah standback, John Machoda, Nick Harris, i'

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Yomen saying so long from the Star in Frisco.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you tomorrow on More Talking Cowboys.

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