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Speaker 3: The Star in Friscot Tison and now your hosts Isaiah Standback,

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Speaker 3: Nick Harris, John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 2: the SWBC studios. It is a Thursday, which means we're

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Speaker 2: breaking down the Cowboys offensive preview against the New York Jets.

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Speaker 4: In Week two of the NFL season.

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Speaker 2: Here with Nick Harris, John Machoda, Isaiah Standback, I'm Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 4: Gentlemen. We doing today.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good, quick click, getting ready for Week two and

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Speaker 2: this is this is really the preview day that I've

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Speaker 2: been looking forward to because the Jets defense has some pieces.

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Speaker 4: I mean they are they are loaded, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: And of course we talked yesterday about the Jets offense

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Speaker 2: versus the Cowboys defense. The Cowboys defense is exceptionally loaded,

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Speaker 2: but now you've got the Jets defense to to talk

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Speaker 2: about and we'll see how the Cowboys offense can adjust.

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Speaker 2: But I want to start things off with a little

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Speaker 2: news and notes. We've done this quite a few times

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Speaker 2: on top talking Cowboys, but I'll hand things over to

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Speaker 2: Nick Harris. Give me the news and notes of yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys back on the practice field. Just a tiny pit,

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Speaker 2: kind of not really full yeah, practice, I mean it

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Speaker 2: was just kind of a it was a mock walkthrough,

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Speaker 2: so a mock game and a walk through. But there

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Speaker 2: were some news that came out of Miam McCarthy's press

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Speaker 2: conference yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so they gave a practice estimate report, which is

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Speaker 5: basically saying if they were in a full practice, this

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Speaker 5: is how much certain guys would have practiced. And I

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Speaker 5: know a notable addition to that list was Brandon Cooks,

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Speaker 5: who's dealing with a knee issue apparently. So we were

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Speaker 5: able to talk to Mike McCarthy about it. He said

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Speaker 5: that he's going to try to do a little bit

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Speaker 5: more today, talking about Thursday and then hope.

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Speaker 6: He said he's got a.

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Speaker 5: Chance to to to play on Sunday, so, you know,

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Speaker 5: and talking to Brandon Cooks in the locker room after

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Speaker 5: he was very kind of hush hush about everything. He

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Speaker 5: was like, yeah, I'll just like coach speak on that,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I feel good and you know, we'll

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Speaker 5: see where we go from here. So it looks like

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Speaker 5: it's just like a nagging recovery as far as I

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Speaker 5: can tell.

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Speaker 6: That's my personal perspective of it.

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Speaker 5: You know, if he if he can't go on Sunday,

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Speaker 5: I think that makes, you know, some things interesting for

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Speaker 5: the receiving corps. And we lost our host, you know,

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Speaker 5: so we've we've lost a receiver and we've lost our host.

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Speaker 6: Today, it's been bad.

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Speaker 7: I found it interesting how he answered that question about

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Speaker 7: how multiple times he was asked and he said, well,

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Speaker 7: you're you gonna have to ask coach about there whatever.

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Speaker 7: I'm just not used to players saying that, So I

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Speaker 7: don't know if that's a he's used to doing that

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Speaker 7: at other stops in his career whenever there's been injuries.

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Speaker 7: But I found that interesting how there's multiple times it

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Speaker 7: was circled back on like his possibilities of playing and

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Speaker 7: everything of that, and he didn't reveal anything. So of

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Speaker 7: course when we like leave the locker room, I go back.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, let me just see when when's the last

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Speaker 7: time he was out on the field and it's the

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Speaker 7: play right before Turpin's touchdown to make it forty to nothing.

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Speaker 7: And so he left basically when all the rest of

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Speaker 7: in the first half and then you know, we didn't

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Speaker 7: see him in the second half. I mean that would have,

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Speaker 7: you know, raised some red flags. But he was out

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Speaker 7: there until when they pulled Dak and everybody else like, so,

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: And a lot of Texans beat writers were kind of

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Speaker 5: coming to Twitter yesterday and be like, oh, yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: Brandon Cook's Wednesday day off, like he does this, and

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Speaker 5: we were like, Okay, good context, I guess, but I

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Speaker 5: do feel like there's an actual injury going on here,

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Speaker 5: just because of the way McCarthy communicated it yesterday.

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Speaker 6: But I guess that's something to keep in mind.

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Speaker 5: It was like, yeah, like Brandon Cooks took a few

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Speaker 5: Wednesdays off last year, so is a veteran's day off.

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Speaker 6: He's a ten year guy, he could do that.

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Speaker 4: So did you ever take a veteran's day off? Isaiah?

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Speaker 2: Did you ever get a chance to take take the

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Speaker 2: kick the feet up a little bit.

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Speaker 5: You're telling me a senior at U dub you weren't,

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Speaker 5: you know, coming into practice timiously.

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Speaker 8: And that was my get money year. I had no

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how much could missing Brandon Cooks this week? There's

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Speaker 2: not a ton of concern, at least it doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: like it. For Mike McCarthy, there was a little bit

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Speaker 2: of concern when he said, yeah, he should be able

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Speaker 2: to go. It's like, Okay, I don't like the words should.

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Speaker 9: No, I think he said chance, chance.

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Speaker 2: Even worse, So the wordage isn't necessarily great. But I

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Speaker 2: still have confidence that that you'll see number three out there.

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Speaker 2: But if he's not out there, Isaiah, how can that

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Speaker 2: change things?

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Speaker 10: Not drastically this week? And be honest with you, really,

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Speaker 10: this defense is not it's not really a man to

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Speaker 10: man defense, and these guys like to play a lot

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Speaker 10: of his own. So with that being the case, I'm

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Speaker 10: not saying that be Cooks is just like any other

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Speaker 10: you know, we have other guys that could be serviceable

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Speaker 10: against this particular type of defense. So Michael Gallup could

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Speaker 10: have a day against these guys even Tolbert can have

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Speaker 10: a day against these guys, so should be Cooks be missing,

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Speaker 10: obviously you will miss him, but there's other guys that

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Speaker 10: can still the job now for sure.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about some of the other injuries

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Speaker 2: that were kind of addressed. I mean, don Van Wilson

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Speaker 2: still trying to work back. He did not practice yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Tyron Smith was a full participant with the ankle in practice,

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Speaker 2: so that was a good sign. And then you're still

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Speaker 2: looking for maybe Jordan Lewis to get back in the

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Speaker 4: What do you think about some of those things. It's

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Speaker 4: Lewis was active all week last week, but then he

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Speaker 5: I want to start with Tyler Smith, just because it's

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Speaker 5: starting to feel like he won't play on Sunday again.

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Speaker 5: Whenever we asked Mike McCarthy yesterday about it, he's like

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Speaker 5: dealing with the injury a little bit longer, and you know,

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Speaker 5: you know, he's probably down a little bit further than

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Speaker 6: And then later in the press commerce.

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Speaker 5: He was asked about Tchuma Udoga's performance last week and

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Speaker 6: He should be much more prepared this week. Now he's

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Speaker 6: got the full week.

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Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, so I think they're preparing

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Speaker 5: Tuma again for a week two. But as far as

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Speaker 5: Tyron Smith looks like he's good to go, you know,

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Speaker 5: full participant yesterday in the estimate. And then Donovan Wilson

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Speaker 5: would love to see his debut. But again, as we

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Speaker 5: spoke on it yesterday, like if it's if you, if

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Speaker 5: you feel like you're pushing it, there's no needs there's

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Speaker 5: no need to. So you know, this defense proved that

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Speaker 5: they're more than capable of, you know, doing things without

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Speaker 4: You still look concerned without Tyler Smith in the fold.

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Speaker 8: I would like to have him versus this front. I

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Speaker 10: The reason being, these these guys are they're pretty big humans,

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Speaker 10: and they're pretty strong humans. And really their way of

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Speaker 10: pass rush is bull rush. That's their form of that's

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Speaker 10: their style that they choose, right, Dallas's style is stunts, speed,

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Speaker 10: you know, beat you vertically or confuse you versus. These

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Speaker 10: to push you back into the quarterback. Obviously, that is

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Speaker 10: the strength of Tyler Smith. He can sit up there

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Speaker 10: miss that presence too, money Doga. It has good size

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's his old team.

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Speaker 6: He's gonna be ready to go.

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Speaker 4: Is that what it is. He's gonna he's gonna play

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Speaker 4: play well against him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Jonathan Hankins played against his team last week

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Speaker 4: So that's pretty sound reasoning overall.

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Speaker 10: That's the that's the thing that sucks about the offensive line.

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Speaker 10: You can't interchange guys based upon best matchups. Now, you know,

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Speaker 10: you need chemistry. You know, if I was if you

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Speaker 8: Bass in this game because TJ.

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Speaker 10: Bass is bigger in my opinion, he's a big bigger,

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Speaker 10: more brawlic uh kind of road greater type of guy,

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Speaker 10: right like, once you get in their physical old school irishman,

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Speaker 10: right like. I think that's his style and I think

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Speaker 8: Front Chimmy Douga.

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Speaker 10: I think he should be serviceable as well, and being

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Speaker 10: So this is gonna be in a phone boo. It's

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Speaker 10: gonna be strength on strength and who can really hunker

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Speaker 10: makes you want to turn your attention towards Tyrone Smith

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Speaker 10: and find out how how strong that ankle is.

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Speaker 4: How'd you feel like he played in Week one?

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Speaker 8: I feel like he did really pretty good. I felt

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Speaker 8: he did pretty good.

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Speaker 10: But again, you know, that's that style of rush that

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Speaker 10: he that that we dealt with last week is not

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Speaker 8: This week's different. Yeah, it's totally different.

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Speaker 4: What did you think about Tyron Smith? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I really solid.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was a sound effort, you know, all

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Speaker 5: the way from both tackles with Tyrone and Terrence. Terrence

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Speaker 5: had one bad penal leave, but other than that, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was mostly pretty clean. You know, I didn't love

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Speaker 5: Beotish's performance, and I know we talked about that, but

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Speaker 5: the more I've gone back to watch film from that game,

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Speaker 5: the more I see Beyondash calling out things pre snap

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Speaker 5: and that just I love to see that, like that's

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Speaker 5: that's invaluable. But as far as post snap, I feel

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Speaker 5: like he could have cleaned some things up and had

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Speaker 5: a better day overall. But Tyron, overall, I feel like

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Speaker 5: he performed well my expectation for him.

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Speaker 6: It was met. I wouldn't say it was exceeded, but

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Speaker 6: it was met.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, And I think there's ways that they can

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Speaker 2: still see in Uptick. I mean, you were able to

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Speaker 2: to get things going on the ground initially, and then

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Speaker 8: From that standpoint, then why not. And then from the

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Speaker 10: and he's gonna make He's gonna be a matchup nightmare.

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Speaker 10: Now once he comes into the game personnel wise, you know,

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Speaker 8: Right, let me back up. A defensive coordinator sitting in

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Speaker 10: He's watching players come on the field as soon as

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Speaker 10: Now he's calling his defense based upon the guys that

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Speaker 6: Do you love it still? In goal line situations?

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Speaker 5: Because I figure him being as a running back, it

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Speaker 6: I think he was only one.

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Speaker 5: For three on goal line opportunities on Sunday, So I

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Speaker 6: You have the same sentiment.

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Speaker 10: I don't have an issue with it because you think

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Speaker 10: somebody's gonna take the offense of this. But what does

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Speaker 9: It's a little bit more physicality and more size.

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Speaker 6: I mean Sunday on the goal line.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I'm not saying that he can't, but I'm

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Speaker 10: saying that's not his thing. I mean, I'm saying, you

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Speaker 10: you want to talk about somebody running in tight spaces. Well,

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Speaker 10: Turpen's kind of your guy, right, what does he do

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Speaker 10: Right, So, I mean so it's not like he has

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Speaker 7: And I liked how you mentioned just him even having

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Speaker 7: But you liked that they're still showing, Hey, you have

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Speaker 7: running like twenty sixteen? No, but you still have to

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Speaker 7: count for it. We're still going to show that. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: the screen back to the right like that. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 7: And just to put that out there, there was just

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's that that creativity is what we've

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Speaker 7: You also need a healthy offensive line to have some

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Speaker 9: Maybe you have the same five guys. I know this

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, I know, but it happens sometimes. But

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we need to buy like a wood plant. We

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Speaker 9: You don't think, what do you think that is?

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Speaker 2: I think a healthy offensive line is always going to

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Speaker 4: But it just it opens so many things up.

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Speaker 2: If you can have all five of those guys up front,

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, and you're going to see more of that. I

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Speaker 8: They're huge upfront. I mean these guys.

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Speaker 8: That that's the benefit of a two gap.

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Speaker 10: they don't they don't have any of those type of

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Speaker 10: guys Like Cowboys Nation is very familiar with guys, you know,

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Speaker 10: getting those one on one matchups and just making somebody

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Speaker 8: That's not this team.

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Speaker 10: This team wants to drive you back into the ball,

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Speaker 10: you know, to the quarterback or into the lap of

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Speaker 8: What does that do for you offensively?

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Speaker 5: Though?

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about it in the second back bet I

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Speaker 2: like it? Yeah, how about that for a tease? How

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Speaker 2: does that change things offensively? We'll get Isaiah's full scouting report.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about this Jets defense in the matchup for

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Speaker 2: John Machoda, Isaiah stand back, Chris Beam in the back

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Speaker 2: of Kyle the omens. All right, Isaiah, you've you've crunched

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Speaker 2: the film, you've broken this thing down. I want you

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Speaker 2: to tell me about the Jets defense. They're complete scouting

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Speaker 2: report and how it could change things this week for

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys offense game plan wise. There are gonna be

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Speaker 2: times this year where Isaiah will say that.

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Speaker 4: What team did you call compost last year?

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Speaker 10: A few you will hear it this week this year.

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Speaker 10: Sometimes it's not gonna be this week though. This team

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Speaker 10: is not compost on the defense.

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Speaker 4: They have some dudes offense.

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Speaker 10: On offense, they have guys, But I think it's gonna

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Speaker 10: be a rough night for them. Yeah, it's gonna be

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Speaker 10: a rough knight for Wilson. Okay, let's get into it.

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Speaker 10: So defense, so defensively, their defensive front is their strength

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Speaker 10: of their team.

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Speaker 8: All right. Everybody can talk about Salis Gardner all day long.

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Speaker 10: Sauce Gardner is a dude, but how they utilize these

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Speaker 10: and how he gets his opportunities to come from this

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Speaker 10: front right, and it's really the front six.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't even call it the front seven. Defensive lineman.

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Speaker 10: Obviously everybody knows Keenan uh it, Keenan, Quinn, Quinn, Quinn, Quinn, Quinn, Williams. Okay,

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Speaker 10: he's a dude, but he he's not as much of

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Speaker 10: a dude as I as I would expect him to

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Speaker 10: be as I watch him on film, and I think

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Speaker 10: because he has one style that I've seen, I think

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Speaker 10: he is limited. I think he's very limited. Now is

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Speaker 10: he dominant in that one way of going about it?

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Speaker 10: It's almost like if you took Michael Parsons and said, Okay,

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Speaker 10: Michael Parson's gonna line up outside.

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Speaker 8: He's going to run outside you every single time. Good

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Speaker 8: luck trying to keep up?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, right, play linebacker like he didn't come Yeah, I

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Speaker 10: mean lineman that like, they'll be happy to know that

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Speaker 10: he's going to do that every single time. But can

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Speaker 10: you stop it? No, you probably still can't stop a

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Speaker 10: majority of the times. And that's really how Quinn and

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Speaker 10: Williams is as well. So he's gonna two.

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Speaker 9: You realize he was the third over pick in that

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Speaker 9: twent nineteen drafts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was didn't realize.

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Speaker 8: Yes, he just got paid again.

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Speaker 2: There was a chance they were going to trade him

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Speaker 2: and Dallas was an interested team. It just was back

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Speaker 2: in like this is the the Jamal Adams trade time,

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Speaker 2: you know, like there was a there was a time

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Speaker 2: where it's like Dallas was kind of throwing their hat

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Speaker 2: in the ring of like we would like to maybe

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Speaker 2: throw something at you for Quinn Williams and Jets are like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we'll hold on.

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Speaker 9: So if he was in this defense, he would be

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Speaker 9: used differently.

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Speaker 10: Oh man, oh, if he was in this defense, I

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Speaker 10: wouldn't say that he'd be used differently. I think that

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Speaker 10: he would be a great accomplishe to to Hankas, Yeah,

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Speaker 10: I mean.

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Speaker 8: He he does what you hope Mazi will do. Okay,

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Speaker 8: pretty much. That's probably That's probably the best way.

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Speaker 6: Of saying basically just using his strength to.

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Speaker 8: Be using your strength to be purely just.

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Speaker 10: I don't need you to I don't need you picking

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Speaker 10: a side. That's what our defense is kind of falling

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Speaker 10: into right now. We'll touch base on that in film

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Speaker 10: room this week. But you know, our defense likes to

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Speaker 10: jump around and like the stunt a lot. There's a

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Speaker 10: lot of cross there's a ton of movement, right, So

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Speaker 10: there's benefits of that when you get your matchups, but

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Speaker 10: you can get out of place as well. This team

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Speaker 10: isn't going to get out of place. They're always going

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Speaker 10: to be where they're supposed to be. But you have

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Speaker 10: to drive them off the ball. You have to use

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Speaker 10: your combo blocks, your double teams to get these guys

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Speaker 10: moving the opposite direction because if you don't, they will

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Speaker 10: disrupt everything you have going on in the backfield. So

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Speaker 10: as we talk about at you money Doga's that is

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Speaker 10: a potential red flag if he can't hold the fort,

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Speaker 10: because they will obviously try to expose him in that regard.

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Speaker 10: But that the front four of those guys is pretty

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Speaker 10: dark on solid right, all right, So ninety five, ninety three,

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Speaker 10: ninety one, Okay, those are the main guys that you

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Speaker 10: have to worry about. I think the most impactful aspect

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Speaker 10: of their defense are their linebackers.

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Speaker 8: Dogs, complete utter dogs.

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Speaker 10: And one thing that we've talked about in the past

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Speaker 10: is the reason why Dallas Dallas's defense a front is

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Speaker 10: so important. While we need interior linemen that can hold

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Speaker 10: the ford and demand double teams is because what what

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Speaker 10: does it do for your second level? Allows for your

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Speaker 10: second level to free flow? Well, guess what that is

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Speaker 10: exactly what they do in New York. New York has

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Speaker 10: their down linemen. These guys are gonna two gap.

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Speaker 8: You better.

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Speaker 10: You better get a little shoulder on them or something

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Speaker 10: to stop the men from coming forward.

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Speaker 8: Otherwise you're gonna be in the quarterback's lap.

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Speaker 10: But those guys are taking up your linemen so that

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Speaker 10: their second level guys can free flow. And those are

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Speaker 10: their playmakers. So their playmakers are that and CJ. Moseley

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Speaker 10: out of Baltimore, uh and in Quincy Williams. So fifty

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Speaker 10: six to fifty seven. So as fans, as you're watching

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Speaker 10: the game, fifty six to fifty seven. Those dudes are dudes,

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Speaker 10: and they fly around. They are they have the energy

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Speaker 10: of what I would call.

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Speaker 8: Like a Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 10: They have that energy right like they're like, they're tenacious,

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Speaker 10: they're relentless, they are gonna they have no regard for

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Speaker 10: their body. They are coming downhill, they're making a decision.

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Speaker 10: They're trying to take your head off.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Mosely especially like he's a downhill beat.

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Speaker 10: Yes, yes, And now there's advantages to that. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 10: advantages to that. Right, So we talk about their front

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Speaker 10: four really just getting vertical, right. They just want to push, push, push,

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Speaker 10: push push, let their linebackers free flow run to the ball.

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Speaker 10: But what happens when those guys are overly aggressive, they oversell.

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Speaker 10: They oversell. So now, all of a sudden, if you

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Speaker 10: can establish a running game and demand the respect of

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Speaker 10: those second level guys, if you could demand the spect

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Speaker 10: them mostly, if you can just demand the respect of Williams,

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Speaker 10: then all of a sudden, you can run your play

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Speaker 10: action game all day long. And the reason being is

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Speaker 10: because these guys want to play a base defense. On

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Speaker 10: the back end, they are a too high defense. They

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Speaker 10: want to play two safeties all day, every day. There

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Speaker 10: are a couple of ways that I found that you

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Speaker 10: can force them out of a too high look, okay,

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Speaker 10: and that's usually comes in the form of bunch sets.

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Speaker 10: They don't want to play too high in bunch they

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Speaker 10: really don't. But and for the most part, they want

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Speaker 10: to play quarters coverage, which is cover four right, everybody,

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Speaker 10: all their guys the corners have a quarter, the safeties

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Speaker 10: have a quarter of the field, or they want to

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Speaker 10: play Cover two right, and the corners are sitting five yards.

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Speaker 8: The safeties have that the haves one thing that they

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Speaker 8: do really.

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Speaker 10: Well of and it's screwed the crap out of Josh

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Speaker 10: Allen is they don't like to just play two and

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Speaker 10: just play four. And sometimes they want to play two

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Speaker 10: on one side of the field and they want to

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Speaker 10: play four on the other side, or they want to

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Speaker 10: play two on one side of the field and they

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Speaker 10: want to play man on the other side of the field.

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Speaker 10: So what Josh Allen ran into, and the reason why

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Speaker 10: fact that he was seeing the front side of the

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Speaker 10: coverage and he wasn't picking up that they were running

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Speaker 10: a completely different coverage on the backside. So when he

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Speaker 10: had guys running deep routes and backside posts and over routes, Okay, yeah,

660
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 10: I see what they're running front side.

661
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 8: Cool, got that diagnosed.

662
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 10: Okay, So if I see that and I know they're

663
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 10: running Cover four over here, that means that the guy's

664
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 10: open on the backside over here shooting. Yeah, he's just

665
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 10: shooting over there, right, Because he was assuming that the

666
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 10: coverage was the same on the other half of the field.

667
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 10: They were really dividing their coverage right down the middle

668
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 10: right cover for this side, cover two backside, man on

669
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 10: this side, cover two backside right. So he was getting

670
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 10: screwed because he wasn't diagnosing the entire play. So that's

671
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 10: something that Dak's going to have to be uber aware

672
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 10: of as he goes out there and starts trying to

673
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 10: throw some of these routes because you have to see

674
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 10: the entire field. They do a good job with their

675
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 10: safeties of making it look like the base coverage when

676
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 10: in reality, this half is one coverage, that half's another.

677
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 2: So if that's the case, there's no such way that

678
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 2: Dak can come up to the line of scrimmage other

679
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: than just watching film and knowing that it's a possible

680
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: ability he can diagnose that pre snap. That's all post

681
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: snap diagnosis quarterback.

682
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 10: So as a quarterback, when you step to the line

683
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 10: of scrimm, it's you. It's a process of elimination. Right,

684
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 10: So I stepped to the line of scrimmage, I see

685
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 10: two safeties, Okay. Automatically my mind goes to okay, either

686
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 10: it's cover two or cover four. Usually that's where my

687
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 10: mind goes. Okay, great for running the ball against. So

688
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 10: the ability to run the ball awesome if you can

689
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 10: get these guys moving in opposite direction on the front. Okay,

690
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 10: but easier said than Donehen you got three hundred pounds

691
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 10: across the d line that played with good pad level

692
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 10: and have good strength, and the linebackers can roam free

693
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 10: without alignment being able to work up to them. So

694
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 10: Tony Pollard and you know, Rico, You're gonna have to

695
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 10: make a man miss. You have to run through a

696
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 10: guy who doesn't care about his face because he's going

697
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 10: to come and try to try to take your chest out.

698
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 10: But on the backside, Daxson have to come up and

699
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 10: really diagnosis. So pre stap okay, cover two. Okay, that's

700
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 10: safety is a little bit, a little bit deeper than

701
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 10: the other. Okay, I'll keep my eye on it. Okay,

702
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 10: I snapped the ball, now, what is it?

703
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 8: Right?

704
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 10: It doesn't become too much of a problem when I'm

705
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 10: in my typical drop back, but it does become a

706
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 10: problem when I'm in play action, because when I'm in

707
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 10: play action, Okay, I'm diagnosed.

708
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 8: Okay, so two is it? Four? Okay? I snapped the ball?

709
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 10: Now I'm doing what as a quarterback, I'm turning my

710
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 10: back to the coverage right. So when I turn my

711
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 10: back to the coverage right, I have my pre snap.

712
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 10: But now I don't get my post snap until I

713
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 10: get my head back around, and I have to reevaluate

714
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 10: what that defense is within what half a second to

715
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 10: make my decision based upon what.

716
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 8: I thought it was. So that's where he is terrible.

717
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 8: It is terrible. It is terrible, But that's the reality.

718
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 8: Will Yeah. So I was sitting there talking to my wife.

719
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 10: Last night when I was watching film, and she's sitting

720
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 10: there and and she's like, what do you what are

721
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 10: you watching? I was watching the game, you know, and

722
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 10: I'm like, man, I showed her one pass rush and

723
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 10: she was like, man, why did he take someone?

724
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 8: I said, who whaha whoa.

725
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 10: I said, you have maybe two and a half seconds,

726
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 10: Like maybe two and a half seconds. She looked at

727
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 10: me like I was crazy. I was like, no, no,

728
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 10: to count this out. Count this out, because on the

729
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 10: play it looked like he had all day long. But

730
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 10: in reality, Josh Allen ended up getting sacked on a

731
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 10: two and a half second drop.

732
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 8: I'm like, it comes at you fast.

733
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: I mean, they put the clock on the Dallas defense

734
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: getting after Daniel Jones and it was like two point three,

735
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: and they had the clock on it on the NBC

736
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: broadcast the other day. It's not too far off from

737
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: this New York Jets front. And I think the secondary

738
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: benefit from it. I mean, you've got a guy like

739
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: Whitehead that had the three picks because of bad decisions,

740
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: the decision making and confusing a quarterback that's gonna have

741
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: to be honest reads this week.

742
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, and one thing that Josh Allen did. And honestly,

743
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 10: there's gonna be a huge opportunity for Dallas's defense as

744
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 10: well because the Jets offense. I know we were ready

745
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 10: hit on that yesterday, but these guys push everything down

746
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 10: the field. Everything's way down the field like they want

747
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 10: to sit back. And that's why I think there's gonna

748
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 10: be another six or seven sack game for this defense.

749
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 10: But the same thing with with Buffalo. They were pushing

750
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 10: everything down the field. And that's not the weakness of

751
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 10: this defense. The weakness of this defense is right in

752
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 10: the middle of their defense because they're relying so heavily

753
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 10: on mostly they were lying so heavily on Williams. At

754
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 10: that second level, both of those guys are being asked

755
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 10: to cover the entire middle of the field and they

756
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 10: can't because they really want to play the run.

757
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 5: So a lot of slant drags trying to get those

758
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 5: guys out in space.

759
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 8: Overs, overshit destroy these guys.

760
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 10: Okay, that's what we talk so when we talk about

761
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 10: be Cooks, right, that's what Bee Cooks does really well

762
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 10: in this offense. At least that what we saw in preseason.

763
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 10: What we saw at camp is a lot of over

764
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 10: routes and week won Yeah, right, lots of over so

765
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 10: overs ferguson. Okay, you should be killing them on a

766
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 10: little post routes, you should be killing them on corner

767
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 10: routes like all those type of things that's in that

768
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 10: middle portion of the field, right, Shallows. It should be good,

769
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 10: right if you can get those guys biting. Play action

770
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 10: is going to be a real thing this week.

771
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 5: So let me ask you, because I don't feel like

772
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 5: any of this is successful without being able to utilize

773
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 5: the play action, which means you gotta get the running

774
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 5: You got run, ye, So how do you get the

775
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 5: running game going?

776
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 10: Yes, front like this, you're gonna have to I would

777
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 10: come out personally in twelve personnel and it's just bully ball.

778
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 8: You're big, you're strong, we know what you do, which

779
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 8: you We're gonna get your moving thirteen person No, I'm

780
00:30:59,480 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 8: not going thirty.

781
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 5: They have a lot of plays in thirteen though on

782
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 5: Sunday Night, on Sunday Night, but they are pulling Jake

783
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 5: Ferguson and putting them in the sea gap and he's

784
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 5: getting it done correct.

785
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: I really like Jake Ferguson's ability to block and his

786
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: willingness to willingness in this in this scheme and what

787
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: he was able to do. Uh in that game on

788
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: Sunday Night, plus New York offensively ran a lot of

789
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: thirteen personnel. There's some some teams going back to that

790
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: that heavy tight end package.

791
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 6: To be able to try and push the balled it.

792
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 8: I would go.

793
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 10: I would go twelve, and I would not come out

794
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 10: in a duce set. So a duce set is when

795
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 10: you have just mim we have a tight end on

796
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 10: each side right. I would put these guys more in

797
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 10: a wing set, meaning that hey, I have one tight

798
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 10: end on line of scrimmage, I have another tight end

799
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 10: right in his hip pocket and the reason being because

800
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 10: it gives you an ability to run your combo blocks.

801
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 10: So you don't want to run straight down here with

802
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 10: these guys. Don't don't. I mean you're going to have

803
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 10: to try it, but the success rate is probably slimmed

804
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 10: to none against these guys. They're just too big, they're

805
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 10: too strong. This is what they do well. They want

806
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 10: you to run at their face, like, come come down.

807
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 10: I want you to come downhill. Right, I'm a two

808
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 10: gap you. I'm gonna throw one guy one direction. I'm

809
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 10: gonna get my arm out there, and then my linebackers

810
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 10: are filling the gaps, right, They're gonna knock the crap

811
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 10: out of your chin strap. So you want to get

812
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 10: these guys moving sideways. The linemen don't do well moving sideways.

813
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 10: But what happens is if you can't get off of

814
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 10: the defensive linemen. Though again, Moseley and Williams are literally

815
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,239
Speaker 10: free flowing. I mean they're coming one hundred miles per

816
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 10: hour and they're knocking the crap out of you at

817
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 10: the line of scrimmage, if not behind the line of scrimmage.

818
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 10: So if you have those combo blocks by your tight ends,

819
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 10: now you can outflake the defensive line right, and your

820
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 10: tight ends can now work up and seal those guys

821
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 10: as they free flow. On the second level, now you

822
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 10: have some lanes because those cornerbacks don't want to come

823
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 10: up and hit. Those cornerbacks are playing out in coverage, right,

824
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 10: you could run your guys off as if they're running

825
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 10: a route and get them out the picture.

826
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 8: And really have an opportunity to get some big plays

827
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 8: on the ground.

828
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: Williams had ten tackles in Sunday Night Football excuse me,

829
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: Monday Night Football for the Jets, and he was ranked

830
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: as the seventh out of seventy three linebackers. So I mean,

831
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: the second level of that Jets defense is very good,

832
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: but it's mostly because of what Quinn Williams is doing

833
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: up run and how they're paving the way consuming John.

834
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: When you look at the Jets defense and you've kind

835
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: of done your study on them, how do they compare

836
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: to some of the defenses that the Cowboys have seen

837
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: in the past, because Giants had a solid front seven,

838
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: but they didn't necessarily have the experience on the outside

839
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: before that.

840
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: You go back to San Francisco.

841
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: Of course, San Francisco in the playoff game had a

842
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: phenomenal defense and that's why they did what they did.

843
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: In the last couple of years.

844
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: But where do you think the Jets defense, now that

845
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: you've kind of looked at it a little bit, kind

846
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: of ranks along the lines of some of the past

847
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: defense as Cowboys offenses have gone against.

848
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 9: I think it's up there with all of them.

849
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 7: And that's why it's going to be good to see

850
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 7: because it is going to be that type of a

851
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 7: playoff type defense that you're going against that Let's be honest,

852
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 7: the last two times that the Cowboys were in the playoffs,

853
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 7: they got sent home because they played probably the best

854
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 7: defense in the NFL. And so I think there's a

855
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 7: lot of us wondering, Okay, then how are they going

856
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 7: to how are they going to do against one of

857
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 7: these this type of test also coming off of a

858
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 7: game that you can factor in a lot of first

859
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 7: time Mike McCarthy is a play caller, sloppy weather, you're

860
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 7: not going to have that you're inside, you're at home,

861
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 7: you're gonna be pretty hyped up. I mean talking to

862
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 7: Brandon Cooks at his locker after like the whole group left,

863
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 7: you know, he's asked about like how much they even

864
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 7: showed on offense, and he was like, no, no, no, we

865
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 7: haven't really shown it. There's a lot that we haven't

866
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 7: even come close to getting too yet. So going against

867
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 7: an elite defense like this, like, I don't think they're

868
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 7: San Francisco elite, but I think they're one of the best,

869
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 7: one of the better defenses in the league. So just

870
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 7: to see Dak and some of these wide receivers, seeing

871
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 7: Jalen Tolbert, seeing the kind of success he can have.

872
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 9: But I also wonder with a.

873
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 7: Guy like like a Jordan Whitehead, you know, I think

874
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 7: this is fifth or six year in the league, never

875
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 7: had more than two picks in an entire season, and

876
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 7: then he has three in one game. He is he

877
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 7: had a hot handed he was he in the right

878
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 7: place at the right time. Is that does that carry

879
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 7: Does that carry over? And then there's Sauce Gardner back there,

880
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 7: that that so, and then all this stuff. Obviously Isaiah said,

881
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 7: there's just there's gonna be a lot of stuff to

882
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 7: evaluate Dak off of this game, maybe more so than

883
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 7: than the last game. So that's kind of excuse me,

884
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 7: That's how I kind of look at it. It's just like,

885
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 7: all right, this will give us a chance early on

886
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 7: to see how this this offense will stack up against

887
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 7: a defense that that's certainly going to be better than

888
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 7: the Giants was.

889
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: Would you say this is an elite defense that they're

890
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 4: going up against.

891
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 7: I think he has a chance to be Yeah, I

892
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 7: mean it's super early, but I mean, yeah, there's a

893
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 7: lot of question marks about their quarterback. But if they're

894
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 7: going to have the type of success that they expect

895
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 7: to have, well, let's say even if they had Aaron Rodgers,

896
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 7: sure they weren't going to get to whatever level that

897
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 7: they wanted to. Like, you know, if you're making picks

898
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 7: at the end of the year, there's a lot of

899
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Speaker 7: people that thought, you know, Jets could win that division,

900
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 7: possibly the super Bowl. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers a big part

901
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 7: of it, but it's also because of that defense, you know. So,

902
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 7: like I said, it's not San Francisco's, it's not Dallas's.

903
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 8: They should put them.

904
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Speaker 10: They went into this season realizing that, hey, if we

905
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 10: have a quarterback, we have a chance because our defense

906
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 10: is so good.

907
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you put them up there with let's say,

908
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: here's some of the San Francisco, Dallas, Philadelphia New England's

909
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 2: defense is still legitimate. Yeah, Pittsburgh got a good defense,

910
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: Washington's got a solid front seven, Miami's got a good defense,

911
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: Baltimore always does.

912
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 4: Would you put them up there kind of.

913
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Speaker 2: With the the Eagles and the Cowboys and the forty nine.

914
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Speaker 9: Team, it'd be like the next tier.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the second tier down.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's it's certainly close for sure. I look

917
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Speaker 7: at the Cowboys even, I just think that there's just

918
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 7: more playmakers on all three levels. So that's the only

919
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 7: reason why I wouldn't put them there. But most of

920
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 7: the times, anytime you have, you know, a defensive head coach,

921
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 7: your defense is probably going to be pretty good, and

922
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Speaker 7: if it's not, then that coach isn't gonna be very long.

923
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Speaker 4: That's this is gonna be such a fun challenge for

924
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: this offense.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, the last two times they've been bounced

926
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Speaker 4: Best defenses in the NFL. Here's a great early look

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Speaker 2: And then you got a couple a couple more down

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931
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932
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933
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,520
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934
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Speaker 4: Season when we come back.

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Speaker 2: A graphic and it was Dak Prescott is now the

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Speaker 2: most tenured quarterback in the NFL. He's been with the

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Speaker 2: team the longest He's continued to be with the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: for the longest amount of time that any quarterback in

994
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Speaker 4: Nick, does that give.

996
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Speaker 2: Any sort of advantage whatsoever to being the most tenured.

997
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: It's It's an interesting stat because it feels like just

998
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: yesterday he was one of the young guns in the league.

999
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Speaker 6: It is crazy. Whenever I saw that yesterday, I was like, wow,

1000
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Speaker 6: like you posted that gift.

1001
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 4: Of like Keenan Thomas.

1002
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's very much how I felt about it too.

1003
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 5: Advantage if there is, you could say, just experiencing and

1004
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 5: knowing what to expect when you walk in the building.

1005
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Speaker 5: You know.

1006
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 6: Even let's look at Aaron Rodgers case.

1007
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Speaker 5: You know, he's had what was at eighteen years in

1008
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Speaker 5: Green Bay and then you know, walks into a new

1009
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 5: situation in New York, pretending he's healthy. Walking into a

1010
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 5: new situation in New York, He's having to get used

1011
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 5: to a new system, a new home stadium, you know,

1012
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 5: a new and new weapons around him. But you know,

1013
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, he's still Aaron Rodgers.

1014
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 5: He's going to have more experience than Dak Prescott. At

1015
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 5: the end of the day, he's going to be able

1016
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 5: to overcome that a lot quicker. So it's like, yeah,

1017
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 5: there's an advantage of just knowing what to expect when

1018
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 5: you walk in the door every Sunday, But I don't

1019
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 5: think it's one that decides win and losses.

1020
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the biggest thing is just the Dallas

1021
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 7: Cowboys brand and everything that comes with being the Cowboys quarterback.

1022
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 9: To be experienced through that.

1023
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 7: I'll just use this saying that I've heard him say

1024
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 7: a bunch of that water off a duck's back, like

1025
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 7: allowing things to just move on. And he said that

1026
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 7: early in his career, and I'm sure that he did

1027
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 7: deal with it as well as pretty much anybody could.

1028
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 7: But then there's another thing of just like every year

1029
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 7: that goes by, there's just certain things that happened that

1030
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 7: you're gonna be able to handle better because you're like, yeah,

1031
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 7: I get it's I got to just deal with this,

1032
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 7: like I don't know, I'm just gonna let me think

1033
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 7: of oh, I don't know, like trading for a tree lance.

1034
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 7: You probably handle that a little bit better now than

1035
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 7: maybe you would have handled it earlier in his career.

1036
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 7: There's just a lot of stuff that comes with being

1037
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 7: the Cowboys quarterback. The thing I always say is that,

1038
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 7: like I don't believe Tom Brady wins seven Super Bowls

1039
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 7: if he's then his entire careers with the Dallas Cowboys.

1040
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 7: I just think that there's so many other things that

1041
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 7: come with it that I think they would. It's a

1042
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 7: lot for anybody mentally.

1043
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Speaker 9: Whatever.

1044
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 7: You can stay off social media and do all that,

1045
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 7: but there's still it's it's going to be.

1046
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 9: You can't live in a bubble. You know, There's always

1047
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 9: going to be stuff.

1048
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 7: That that you hear, and it's it's not the easiest

1049
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 7: to deal with. So yes, obviously to your point all

1050
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 7: the stuff on the field, but I think of even

1051
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 7: off the field stuff. I just being the Cowboys franchise

1052
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 7: quarterback is is just it's not for everybody, you know,

1053
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 7: it's it's there's more to it than than it is

1054
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 7: for a lot of the other organizations.

1055
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Speaker 5: How many Super Bowls does Tom Brady win if he's

1056
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 5: the quarterback of the Cowboys this whole career, thinking about

1057
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 5: the teams that he would have.

1058
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 9: Had, Okay, the entire time, including the time he was

1059
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:26,959
Speaker 9: with the Bucks.

1060
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Speaker 6: Ye yeah, say your entire career three to five Okay,

1061
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Speaker 6: do you.

1062
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Speaker 4: Know what years seven? Uh seven?

1063
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Speaker 9: Maybe, yeah, that's a possibility. Fourteen sixteen, maybe that's tough.

1064
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Speaker 7: You got to be so bad in fifteen to get

1065
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 7: the drafts of sixteen, so maybe they never even get

1066
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 7: that down that level. Yeah, I know it's Bill Beljick

1067
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 7: could to come with him during all.

1068
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question, Mark too, Yeah, that would

1069
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 4: be nice. No he doesn't so.

1070
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and if there's no Bill, then yeah, I'm in

1071
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 7: that probably three to five ring.

1072
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 4: I could see that.

1073
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 9: It would be.

1074
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Speaker 7: Interesting to see Bill coaching with Jerry would be fascinating.

1075
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Speaker 2: Isaiah's like, I'm not going to say anything, You're going

1076
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 2: to stay off to the side here.

1077
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Speaker 4: What kind of the John's point?

1078
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's really not a more polarizing figure

1079
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: in sports. I mean, there are polarizing figures in sports around,

1080
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: but the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys is always up

1081
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 2: toward the top of the list. And without Tom Brady,

1082
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: without now Aaron Rodgers active in twenty twenty three, where

1083
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: does Dak rank on that list in terms of the

1084
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 2: most polarizing individuals in sports? Because you could put up

1085
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: i mean Lebron on the NBA side, Kevin Durant, probably NBA.

1086
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 4: Side, Steph Curry, Steph Curry, Oh yeah, for sure, No doubt. Golf,

1087
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Speaker 4: there's not.

1088
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: I mean, Tiger has always been that guy, but is

1089
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: he that guy right this second? Probably not? Show Hey

1090
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Speaker 2: in baseball, that's about the only baseball guy you would get.

1091
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's tough, like Dak's up there in terms

1092
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 2: of those guys, maybe Joe Burrow now Patrick Mahomes.

1093
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: I mean those guys are up there.

1094
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 9: Number one in the NFL.

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00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but I mean Dak as the quarterback for

1096
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: the Cowboys is always there.

1097
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 7: The eyes are on Dak though for this is Michael Parsons.

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00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I could see that.

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00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 5: I would put Tyreek above Dak right now, just with

1100
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 5: all the mess that he loves to talk and he

1101
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 5: backs it up.

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Speaker 6: It's he's started to become kind of a figure down there.

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00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 10: And we talked about polarizing, like I have to take

1104
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 10: the brand off of it. Why because the brand bears

1105
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 10: majority of the weight of the polarizing, of the polarization

1106
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 10: in regards to Dak.

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00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 4: That's fair because the Cowboys are the most polarizing in

1108
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 4: the NFL.

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00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 10: All those other individuals you mentioned they're polarizing, and their

1110
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 10: media follows them because them, Yeah, and then what they've done.

1111
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 10: So from that regard, I think the brand bears more

1112
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 10: polarizing weight on Dak than Dak does on the brand.

1113
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 10: Tyreek Hill made a brand for himself. He don't matter

1114
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 10: where he goes. Patrick Mahone in freaking Kansas City. You know,

1115
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 10: we got Burrow, He's in Cincinnati, you know. Lebron doesn't

1116
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 10: matter where he goes, you know, So he's not about

1117
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 10: some of these guys. I guess the player that you're following.

1118
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 10: I don't know if Dak's hit that yet, but he

1119
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 10: has a great chance to this year.

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00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 7: I mean, he's already in that spot of you know,

1121
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 7: he can retire after the season and if he wants

1122
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 7: one of those top TV jobs, he's getting it.

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00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know.

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00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 7: I mean that's just that's one of those it's those

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00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 7: that cowboys slash, you know, like all the former players

1126
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 7: and stuff with like Duke, that they get all these

1127
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 7: TV jobs and.

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Speaker 9: Things like that.

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00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 7: And the reason I bring that up is because sometimes

1130
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 7: you're even more you become even more known for that

1131
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 7: than you were even from your your playing days. So

1132
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 7: when the polarizing part. I do agree with you on

1133
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 7: that the Cowboys brand. There's good and bad with it,

1134
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 7: you know, like like I sit there and I say, oh,

1135
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 7: you know, you know, he's had a lot to deal

1136
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 7: with whatever. Cowboys brand has also made him a lot

1137
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 7: of money, to know what I'm saying, Like, uh so there,

1138
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 7: you know, there's the give and take of that. But

1139
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 7: I just think he's just wired the right way to

1140
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 7: hand to handle that. That's why I don't know, it

1141
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 7: had been kind of interesting. I know it's not good

1142
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 7: for the Cowboys probably if he did this, But after

1143
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 7: getting done watching that Quarterback series of Netflix, I would

1144
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 7: have kind of liked to see dak On there just

1145
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 7: to see because there's a lot of off the field

1146
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 7: stuff like being back at home and things like that.

1147
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 7: I think they did a great job on it from

1148
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 7: three different quarterback perspectives in that, but it would be

1149
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 7: interesting to see.

1150
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 9: How the Cowboys.

1151
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 7: But then, you know, when he's asked about it, he

1152
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 7: was like, yeah, no, we get enough coverage here, you

1153
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 7: know the Cowboys, which is true.

1154
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 4: Which is very very true.

1155
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 2: And I think we've talked about this enough and and

1156
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 2: by we I mean just Cowboys Nation, Like there's there's

1157
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: very few quarterbacks that could handle this job as well

1158
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: as Dak Prescott does. There are very few guys that

1159
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: can handle that level of pressure, that level of intensity

1160
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: from a fan base that is as passionate as the Cowboys,

1161
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: and that's what makes it great. That's what makes Cowboys

1162
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: Nation great is the fact that they are passionate about it.

1163
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 2: But it does bring some ups in and bring some downs,

1164
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: and he's got to be able to ride the wave

1165
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 2: with it.

1166
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 7: Hey, the way his face looked and just the way

1167
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 7: he answered those questions on that pre game interview with

1168
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 7: Melissa Stark, like it was like locked in. Yeah, we're

1169
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 7: not We're not doing any type of ads right now.

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00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: Did you like that Campbell? Like it was like he

1171
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 4: Isaiah can he can?

1172
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 7: Uh?

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00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 8: I wasn't. I was irritated by that, Yeah he.

1174
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: Can, he can, attest to it. I was sitting there,

1175
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: I was I was not happy.

1176
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 6: It was weird.

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Speaker 8: Like I get that TV is TV and they have

1178
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 8: you know, yeah, but like, come on, he's that work.

1179
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 8: He's at work at work.

1180
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 4: It's like the locked in that's a sacred times.

1181
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 8: This is not preseason.

1182
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 10: No, it's not preseason where you're trying to you know,

1183
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 10: kill time, and no, this is he has prepared all

1184
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 10: week for this opportunity.

1185
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 9: Like, get he looks like he was ready to go.

1186
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 10: Yeah you got you go postgame for that. Yeah you

1187
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 10: got postgame for that. Go talk to coach as he's

1188
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 10: coming out of the tunnel. He has obligation to do

1189
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 10: that. That sounds that's contractual, right, But talking.

1190
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: To a coach is different than talking to your franchise

1191
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: quarterback seconds before he takes the field. Now that that

1192
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: that specific interview was pre recorded, I don't know.

1193
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 4: I mean, just to pull the curtain back.

1194
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 2: That was not a live interview right as they were

1195
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: about to walk on to the field. It was probably

1196
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: twenty men and a's prior to that, It was probably

1197
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: before they went back into the locker room. But still,

1198
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: like that's pregame stretching.

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Speaker 4: That should be a no touch zone.

1200
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 8: I should player. I don't like it.

1201
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 4: I'll say that that should be offline.

1202
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 7: Yeah I'm not even as a member of the media,

1203
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 7: I shouldn't says, but like I'm even good with if

1204
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 7: you don't do the coaches either, Yeah, I really, I mean,

1205
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 7: and I guess I'm not thinking about it as much

1206
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 7: from the NFL. I think for me, it's more just

1207
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 7: like NBA playoff games, like you just so rarely get

1208
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 7: anything that you're even like, WHOA, Okay, well that's what

1209
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 7: they're doing. Like it's just like they're a miserable miserable

1210
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 7: to a certain extent that they have to do it.

1211
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 7: But they're also like a lot of these coaches, this

1212
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 7: is maybe the only chance they're going to be in

1213
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 7: like this deep in the playoffs and things like, I

1214
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 7: don't know, like I've just and like I said, you

1215
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 7: rarely the return on investment is generally not great. I mean,

1216
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 7: it's got to the point in the NBA where one

1217
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 7: of the most talked about ones is just the fact

1218
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 7: of how Greg Popovich blows off the reporter. You know,

1219
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 7: it's not even about like did you get anything, it's

1220
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 7: just that, oh, look at how entertaining that is. Like

1221
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 7: he totally made that reporter look like an idiot, and

1222
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 7: you're just like, well, why is this even being done anymore?

1223
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 5: You know, it's a pop And then Quinn Snyder, the

1224
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 5: head coach for the Atlanta Hawks, he always like the interview, Yeah,

1225
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 5: that's starting to.

1226
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 4: Pay Nothing ever good comes out of it.

1227
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 8: On just put a count to it.

1228
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I tried one time. It's impossible. Like that's how

1229
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 5: fast he's blinking during an interview.

1230
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 7: So Jason Whitney has been the one in previous years

1231
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 7: that before some of those sudden that games is the

1232
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 7: one that did an interview. And that's the most like

1233
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 7: because Jason Witten it like that, very very media friendly,

1234
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 7: but that's the most I've ever seen him be like, Yeah,

1235
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 7: I'm I'll give you these answers, but I really just

1236
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 7: want to run away from this as soon as possible.

1237
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 7: I don't want to be here right now. But yeah,

1238
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 7: it's it's rough.

1239
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: I mean, John tweeted out a video of me last

1240
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: year with Mike McCarthy and Denver.

1241
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was a part.

1242
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: I mean, that was that was my learning opportunity with

1243
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: with that whole situation. But yeah, I mean, things happen

1244
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: and you gotta you gotta roll with the punches. Both

1245
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: from a media stame kind of job, so from a

1246
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: player standpoint, you both have a job to do and

1247
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: you got to get through it.

1248
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 4: But I just didn't like it.

1249
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: Pregame, halftime and postgame all you want, but pregame, especially

1250
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: with the franchise quarterback.

1251
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 4: Let's not do that. Let's not do that.

1252
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 8: NBC.

1253
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: All right, when we well, we're done for the day.

1254
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: How about that it flew by. I thought we had

1255
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 2: one more segment left. I'm trying to keep John around.

1256
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: I want to get his predictions. That's gonna do it

1257
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 2: for us tomorrow. Say it with your chest, Friday, bring

1258
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: the energy. We'll give our pick'ems. We'll already have John's

1259
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: in the bank and we will get you ready for

1260
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: the Week two matchup with the New York Jets. For

1261
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: Chris Beam in the back, Isaiah standback, John Machoda, Nick Harris, i'

1262
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: Kyle Yomen saying so long from the Star in Frisco.

1263
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Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow on More Talking Cowboys.

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