1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm John Tucker. 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 3: Here are these stories we're following today. 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 4: John, we begin with the latest developments in the war 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 4: in Ukraine. The US is pushing to control all major 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 4: future infrastructure and mineral investments in the country. 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: We get more from Bloomberg's Tony Haupin. 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 5: It would give the US control over very large areas 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 5: of investments in Ukraine's economy. They're demanding essentially a right 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 5: of first offer in this agreement that they're drawing up 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 5: with Kiev that would allow them to control investments into 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 5: projects such as roads, railways, ports, mines, oil and gas, 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 5: critical minerals extraction. So it's a pretty enormously extensive list 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 5: of things. And it will also give the US first 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 5: claim on profits that were transferred into this special investment 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 5: fund that's being proposed by Washington, and they would get 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 5: the profits until it was considered that Ukraine had basically 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 5: repaid all of the US military and economic support that 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 5: had been provided since the beginning of the war. 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 4: Bloombergs Tony Happin says the deal could undermine Ukraine's bid 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 4: for European Union membership and give the US effective control 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 4: over investment decisions covering large areas of Ukraine's economy. 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: And meanwhile, Nathan Russian President Vladimir Putin is proposing a 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: UN led transitional administration in Ukraine. Here's Putin speaking through 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: an interpreter. 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 6: We could discuss under the auspices of the UN, with 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 6: the US, with European countries, and of course with our 28 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 6: partners and friends, the possibility of conducting temporary governance in 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 6: Ukraine in order to hold democratic elections in order to 30 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 6: bring to power a viable government that enjoys the trust 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 6: of the people and then begin negotiations with them on 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 6: a peace treaty. 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: Putin also said Runsia is worried about NATO's activities in 34 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: the Arctic. 35 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 4: John Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is in Asia, specifically the Philippines, 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: for his first trip to the Rea as head of 37 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 4: the Pentagon, but he's facing questions about that group chat 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 4: on signal where he shared an attack timeline for Yemen 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: with top US officials and inadvertently the Atlantic magazine's editor. 40 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: And I'm quite proud, quite proud of what our. 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 7: Forces and Sentcom did on that initial series of very 42 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 7: effective and devastating strikes and the ongoing campaign that we 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 7: are undertaking because that is a again on the backs 44 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 7: of four years of deferred maintenance and failure and weakness 45 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 7: of the Biden administration, we are re establishing deterrens. 46 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 4: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is facing calls to resign for 47 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: sharing the attack plans over a commercially available app. A 48 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 4: federal judge has ordered Hegseth and other officials to preserve 49 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: their signal communications over the five days that included the 50 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: Yemen chat, and. 51 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: Elon mossays he's planning to slash one trillion dollars in 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: US government spending by the end of May. Must spoke 53 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 3: with Fox News. 54 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 8: Our goal is to use to DEFSIT by trillion dollars, 55 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 8: so from a nominal deficit of two trillion to track 56 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 8: cut DEPSIT in half to one trillion, or looked at 57 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 8: it in total federal spending, to drop the federal spending 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 8: from seven trillion. 59 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 9: To six trillion. 60 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: Figures from Elon Musk's own team show they are still 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: far from the one trillion dollar mark. The Doze website 62 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: lists about twenty two billion dollars in contract savings. The 63 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: cross cutting efforts to face a series of legal setbacks 64 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 3: as judges have halted some of their decisions. 65 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 4: And John the Trump administration is making a big move 66 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 4: and it's bid to layoff government workers. Multiple agencies, including 67 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: the Justice and Defense Departments, have filed the lawsuit to 68 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: invalidate union contracts with federal employees. The suit says the 69 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: collective bargaining agreements are impeding President Trump's government reform efforts 70 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: and threatened national security. The American Federation of Government Employees 71 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: union is calling the case a bullying tactic against quote, 72 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 4: hundreds of thousands of patriotic American civil servants. 73 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: And while Donald Trump he intensifies his global trade war, 74 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: China's president is meeting with business leaders. Chi Jinping met 75 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: with more than forty leaders of companies spending, finance, manufacturing, 76 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: and technology, avowed to improve market access and boost investors 77 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: sentiment amidst rising tarofs and economic uncertainty. 78 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 4: John Secretary of State Marco Rubio is defending the Trump 79 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: administration's push to expel foreign citizens who have protested against Israel. 80 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: Speaking to reporters during a visit to Guyana, Rubio said 81 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: the US may have revoked more than three hundred visas 82 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: so far. 83 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: I think it's crazy. 84 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 10: I think it's stupid for any country in the world 85 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 10: to welcome people into their country. They're going to go 86 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 10: to your universities as visitors. They're visitors and say, I'm 87 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 10: going to your universities to start a riot. I'm going 88 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 10: to your universities to take over a library and harass people. 89 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 10: I don't care what movement you're involved in. 90 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: And Secretary of State Marco Rubio and now lawyers for 91 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: the detained visa holders say the actions violate their constitutional 92 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: rights to free speech and do process. 93 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: And let's turn to the markets. Futures lower right now 94 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: as we close out another volatile trading week, Gold hit 95 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: another record as concerns about US tariffs and a winding 96 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: trade war way on investors. Adam Coohons is the chief 97 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: investment officer at Winthrop Capital Management. 98 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 9: I think we all know that Wall Street obviously likes 99 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 9: nothing less than uncertainty. You can get bad news and 100 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 9: if it's expected, you know, it doesn't really do much. 101 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 9: But uncertainty will drive this higher volatility, higher risk premiums. 102 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: Winthrop Capital Managements. Adam couhns well. The SMP five hundred 103 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: is on pace for its worst quarters since twenty twenty three, 104 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: is down three point two percent so far. 105 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 4: There's here today, John. Investors are waiting for another key 106 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: economic report. It's the Fed's preferred inflation gauge, the PCE deflator. 107 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 4: Ahead of that, the head of the Boston Fed says 108 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 4: it looks inevitable the tariffs will boost inflation, at least 109 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: in the near term. Susan Collins says it is appropriate 110 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: to keep interest rates steady for longer. 111 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 11: Looks inevitable that tariffs are going to increase inflation in 112 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 11: the near term, and my kind of mortal outlook would 113 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 11: be that that could be short lived, with a continuation 114 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 11: of some disinflation, but further in the future than I 115 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 11: might have expected before. 116 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 4: Boston Fed President Susan Collins and other central bankers left 117 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: interest rates unchanged last week for a second straight meeting, and. 118 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 3: The princess to five o seven on Wall Street. It 119 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: is timed out for a look at some of the 120 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: others stories making news in New York and around the world. 121 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: After that, we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. Michael, Good Morning, 122 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: Good Morning John. A strong seven point seven magnitude earthquake 123 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: has rocked me and Mark, causing buildings disway. It caused 124 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: evacuations in Thailand and Vietnam. Witnesses and Bangkok said the 125 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: shaking continued for more than a minute, with people fleeing 126 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 3: onto the street. There were no immediate reports of casualties. 127 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: The Greater Bangkok area is home to more than seventeen 128 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: million people, many of whom live in high rise apartments. 129 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: You're not welcome here. That's the chilly message that some 130 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: residents of Greenland are sending to Vice President JD. Vans 131 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: and Second Lady Ushevans. The two are coming as President 132 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: Trump once again vows to take over Greenland. This man 133 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: says Greenland is not for sale, and neither are it's people. 134 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 7: He's not welcome to Quenland and he's administrated because he wants. 135 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: To buy buyers. 136 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 7: If he say I want to I don't want to 137 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 7: buy you, then he's welcome. 138 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 12: Greenland is an autonomous territory but is also a part 139 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 12: of the Kingdom of Denmark. President Donald Trump says he 140 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 12: will withdraw Representative Elise to Phonix nomination to serve as 141 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 12: the US Ambassador to the United Nations, citing republicans narrow 142 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 12: hold on the House. In a post on social media, 143 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 12: Trump says, with a very tight majority, I don't want 144 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 12: to take a chance on anyone else running for Elisa's seat. 145 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 12: He went on to say there are others that can 146 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 12: do a good job at the United Nations. Wildfires that 147 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 12: have been raging in the Carolinas that prompted both evacuations 148 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 12: and emergency orders. There are three wildfires burning in North Carolina, 149 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 12: including the Black Cove, which is seventeen percent contained. Governor 150 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 12: Josh Stein there's. 151 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 13: Not enough containment yet, but they are working tiresly in 152 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 13: what's encouraging is it's the State for Service, It's the 153 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 13: National Force Services. If you're Nian affairs, it's local police, 154 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 13: fire departments, everybody coming together. 155 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 12: Another wildfire, the Deep Woods is thirty percent contained. Rain 156 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 12: and cooler temperatures are helping South Korean firefighters as they 157 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 12: battle the country's worst ever wildfires. The chief of the 158 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 12: Korea Forest Service says the wildfires in the southeast where 159 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 12: eighty five percent contained. The fires have killed twenty eight 160 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 12: people and destroyed thousands of houses, factories, vehicles, and other structures. 161 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 12: Global news twenty four hours a day and whenever you 162 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 12: want it with the Bloomberg News Now Michael Barrn, this 163 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 12: is Bloomberg. 164 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 3: John all right, Michael, thank you and the Burnses to 165 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 3: five ten on Wall Street time down for the Bloomberg 166 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 3: Sports Update, brought to you by you Trin State Autie Dealers. 167 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: Same for that, your Stan Schwartzman. 168 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 14: Good morning, John and Nathan. Opening day of the Major 169 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 14: League Baseball season saw the Yankees win their fourth trade 170 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 14: opener as history was made in the Bronx. 171 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,359 Speaker 3: Austin Wells is the first Yankee catcher to hit leadoff 172 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: in a lineup in their franchise history. That is ripped 173 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: in right back at the wall. See y'all home run. 174 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 3: What a start Yankees on top one zip. 175 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: Ma Thatt's courtesy of ESPN. 176 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 14: Wells also becoming the first catcher in baseball history did 177 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 14: an opening day leadoff homer. Yankees also getting a homer 178 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 14: from Anthony Volpi to beat the Brewers four to two. 179 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 14: Mets fall the Astros in Houston three to one. Newest 180 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 14: Metwan Soto striking out the tying runs on base in 181 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 14: the ninth inning. 182 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: Then the game. 183 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 14: Sodo, though gets a single in two walks in his 184 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 14: debut after signing a record fifteen year, seven hundred and 185 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 14: sixty five million dollar contract in the off season. Elsewhere, 186 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 14: Red Sox knock off the Rangers five to two, Garret 187 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 14: Crotchard picking up a no decision in his Socks debut, 188 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 14: while will You or Brew goes three for three at 189 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 14: a walk in two homers. Nationals dominate the Blue Jays 190 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 14: twelve to two, while the Excuse Me Orioles dominate the 191 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 14: Blue Jays twelve to two. The Nationals loose to the 192 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 14: Phillies seven to three in ten innings. All the higher 193 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 14: seeds moving on to the lead eight of the men's 194 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 14: NCAA Tournament as Duke beats Arizona, Texas Tech gets past 195 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 14: Arkansas on overtime. Florida knocks off Maryland, while Alabama sets 196 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 14: a tournament record with twenty five three pointers to dominate 197 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 14: byu NBA Action Basers, setting a franchise record. They scored 198 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 14: one hundred and sixty two points in a win over 199 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 14: the Wizards. Cavaliers win their fifty ninth game of the 200 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 14: season by knocking off the Spurs in Cleveland. The Lakers 201 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 14: fall to the Bulls by two in Chicago, and for 202 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 14: our listeners in New York, you can catch arrangers on 203 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 14: the ice tonight as they take on the Anaheim Ducks. 204 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 14: Puck drops at ten right here on Bloomberg eleven, three 205 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 14: to zero. That's your Bloomberg Sports Update. I'm Dan Schwarzman, 206 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 14: John and Nathan. 207 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 208 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 209 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 210 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 211 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 4: As President Donald Trump continues to push for a full 212 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 4: seasefire between Russia and Ukraine, he has also been looking 213 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: to assert more US economic control over the war torn country. 214 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 4: It is something the President has been discussing a lot 215 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 4: in recent weeks. 216 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 15: One of the things we are doing is signing a 217 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 15: deal very shortly with respect to rare earth with Ukraine, 218 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 15: which they have a tremendous value in rare earth, and 219 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 15: we appreciate that. 220 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 4: Now Bloomberg News has seen a document that shows the 221 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 4: US may want more than just Ukraine's rare earths, looking 222 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 4: to control all major investments in infrastructure and natural resources 223 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 4: under a revised partnership deal. For more on this and 224 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: other news coming out of the nation's capital, we are 225 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 4: joined by Greg Valier this morning, chief US policy strategist 226 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 4: at AGF Investments. It's good to speak with you once again. 227 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 4: From the reporting that has been put out there, now, 228 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 4: this sounds like a major expansion of what the President 229 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: has been talking about when it comes to what he 230 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 4: wants out of Ukraine. 231 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: Well, how do you see it? 232 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 16: It sure is? I agree, Nathan. I think it's going 233 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 16: to be very controversial to expand US economic activity to 234 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 16: that level. I'm not sure a Zelensky can buy this. 235 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 4: This has been something that has tested the relationship between 236 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 4: the US and Ukraine. We saw the blow up in 237 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 4: the Oval office last month. What makes you think that 238 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: President Zelensky could have some difficulty with this? 239 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 16: I think his own people. I think the Ukrainian people 240 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 16: are going to see that Trump wants to make Ukraine 241 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 16: the fifty first state. Forget about Canada, it could be Ukraine. 242 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 16: And I think this type of economic activity is going 243 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 16: to be viewed as too harsh, too extensive. 244 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 4: And we've seen also Russian President Vladimir Putin pushing this 245 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 4: idea of a UN sponsored force taking a transitional administration 246 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 4: over Ukraine. Early reports that the White House is kind 247 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 4: of dismissing that. Where do you see this going now, Greg? 248 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 16: I think it's going to last for a while before resolution. 249 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 16: I'm not convinced this is going to get wrapped up 250 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 16: anytime soon. The Bloomberg story this morning, I think complicates 251 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 16: the prospects for getting anything done. So we've got a 252 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 16: ways to go well. 253 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 4: And this comes, of course, after more than thirty leaders 254 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: met just yesterday in Paris trying to put out their 255 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 4: position on what to do about Ukraine, and it seems 256 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 4: like Europe has been on the sidelines. Can Europe sort 257 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: of reassert itself given what we're learning about what the 258 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 4: president is trying to do in Ukraine? 259 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 16: I think a bit. I think Macron and others could 260 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 16: be intermediaries. But I think again, this proposal that we're 261 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 16: seeing this is way too vast for most all of 262 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 16: the European leaders. 263 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 4: I want to get to the other major story that's 264 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 4: been dominating Washington over the last several days. Of course, 265 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 4: this signal chat about Yemen war plans or attack plans, 266 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 4: as it's been characterized. 267 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 16: Now. 268 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 4: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has continued to face questions about that, 269 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 4: even as he's been overseas in Asia. 270 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: How do you see this playing out in the days 271 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: to come. 272 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 16: Well, I think Hegseth is probably going to hang on. 273 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 16: I don't think he's going to be dismissed, although there 274 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 16: are a surprisingly large number of Republicans here in Washington 275 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 16: who were using the phrase amateur hour, a feeling that 276 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 16: has got maybe over his head. 277 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: How do you view the disclosures that came out of 278 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 4: this signal, chat? I mean, the White House has said 279 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 4: nothing classified was revealed, but we did see a pretty 280 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 4: detail timeline of how these attacks are going to go down. 281 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 16: Well, you're right, Nathan, and I think an awful lot 282 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 16: of people here feel that this set's a very bad precedent. 283 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 16: I'd also add really quickly, there have been some extraordinary 284 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 16: moves by Trump to consolidate his power, going after law firms. 285 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 16: There's a story this morning going after he going after 286 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 16: automakers in the US who try to raise prices. So 287 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 16: Trump's going for it this week. This will be remembered 288 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 16: as a week where Trump really dramatically increased his power. 289 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 4: Do you think these efforts to increase powers you put 290 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: it are going to have a lasting impact on about 291 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 4: thirty seconds left. 292 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 16: I think the key as usual is going to be 293 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 16: two full number one public opinion and in Trump's numbers 294 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 16: aren't bad. They're not great, but they're not bad. And secondly, Republicans, 295 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 16: I think a lot of Republicans in private are the 296 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 16: wild card. 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