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Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and I heart

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Speaker 1: radio podcast. Welcome to the most dramatic podcast ever. I

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Speaker 1: am Chris Harrison here with Lauren Ziema, and we have

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Speaker 1: exchanged the home office in Austin, Texas for this office

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Speaker 1: in Dallas, Texas. Up here in Dallas, seeing family, spending

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Speaker 1: stop us from hitting these headlines, huge headlines this week.

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Speaker 1: And coming up a little later on the show, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to talk to Ari Liondike and his beautiful wife,

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Speaker 1: Lauren Burnham. You know what I never asked, is it

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Speaker 1: Lauren Burnham Liondike. Now she just just didn't change her name,

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Speaker 1: right Lauren. Oh, there you go. So we will talk

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Speaker 1: to them a little bit later on. But first, the

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Speaker 1: biggest headline of the week, and you are just chomping

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Speaker 1: at the bit for this, the vander Pump rules blow up,

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Speaker 1: I mean Mount Vesuvius style blow up. This is huge,

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Speaker 1: so I'm going to my expert, Elze. I absolutely love

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Speaker 1: that you just called it the pump, because nobody calls

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Speaker 1: it that. But no more importantly, you did just grasp

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Speaker 1: the reality of this though you called this the Mount Vesuvius.

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Speaker 1: I was dming with some I'm a Bravo hollock. I

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Speaker 1: love the Housewives. I've been watching them for years. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I was a Housewives watcher long before I was ever

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Speaker 1: a Bachelor watcher. And I've been dming with some of

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Speaker 1: my other Bravo hollicks and we're talking about how this

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest Bravo stories ever. But I want

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Speaker 1: to catch everybody up. And another thing I love about

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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison is because Chris is the type of guy who, like,

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Speaker 1: wants to hear what's up. Well, there's one of two guys, right,

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Speaker 1: there's one or two in this world that will They

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Speaker 1: either act like they don't care. Like the guys that

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Speaker 1: the Batchelor about Tourette. I don't know anything about it.

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Speaker 1: Then they proceed to talk to me for an hour

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Speaker 1: I want to know. This is juicy stuff. I know.

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Speaker 1: I come back from a girl's trip and he's like, so,

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Speaker 1: what's going on with everyone? What's happening in everybody's marriages?

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Speaker 1: So I'm talking to him about the Vanderpump Rules stuff

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Speaker 1: and I'm catching him up. But basically, what's happened here,

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Speaker 1: And part of the reason we wanted to bring it

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Speaker 1: up is because this dramatic headline brings up some major

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Speaker 1: relationship discussion points. What has happened is Arianna and Tom.

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Speaker 1: They are a long time couple on Vanderpump Rules. They've

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Speaker 1: been together almost a decade by the way. I've interviewed

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Speaker 1: them both together many times, and this breaks my heart

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Speaker 1: for years and years on Vanderpump Rules, a show full

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Speaker 1: Now not only is Tom cheating on Arianna, but Raquel

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Speaker 1: And say, your partner's bringing someone into your home and

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Speaker 1: were reveling in it. Yeah, that's a great, great way

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Speaker 1: he was able to weave comedy into something that was

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Speaker 1: not funny and was brutal and really affected him. I

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Speaker 1: think Arsenio Hall, who was they did it was kind

427
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Speaker 1: of weird. This is the part that kind of lost me.

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Speaker 1: On the Netflix thing they did from the Comedy Store

429
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Speaker 1: in la a pre show and a post show. The

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Speaker 1: actual special was in Baltimore. Why we couldn't line these

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Speaker 1: things up, I don't know. And that was even a

432
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Speaker 1: joke at the very beginning of the monologue, but Arseneo

433
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Speaker 1: Hall was a part of it, and he said something

434
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Speaker 1: very poignant. The special was brilliant as it was. You

435
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Speaker 1: didn't need the last ten minutes, but with that last

436
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Speaker 1: ten minutes, it's pretty groundbreaking, and I think it's something

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Speaker 1: if you do nothing else and just watched the last

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Speaker 1: ten minutes of this special to see the emotion, to

439
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Speaker 1: see how Chris expresses one of the most iconic moments.

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Speaker 1: I mean in the last what twenty fifty years, if

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Speaker 1: we all watched on TV, Yeah, in a dark way,

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Speaker 1: an infamous moment. Maybe I'm still thinking about it. I'm

443
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Speaker 1: trying to remember if I was. I wasn't really laughing

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Speaker 1: very much during the Will Smith part at the end,

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Speaker 1: but also I didn't expect to be, and like, like,

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Speaker 1: I laughed a little bit, but I was sort of

447
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: just more captivated and enthralled by what he was going

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Speaker 1: to say. I mean, yeah, you want to talk about

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about, taking time to say what you

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Speaker 1: want to say. He waited a year, and we'd heard

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Speaker 1: little bits that he'd been practicing these jokes at different

452
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Speaker 1: stand up routines as he was working towards the special.

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Speaker 1: But it's funny how these two stories tie together goes

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Speaker 1: back to the pain of cheating, right, because one thing

455
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Speaker 1: Chris Rock talked about was he said, well, Jada hurt

456
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Speaker 1: Will more than I ever did. He said, this all started,

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Speaker 1: you know, because Jada and Will did a discussion on

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Speaker 1: Red Table Talk talking about how and how she had

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Speaker 1: gotten in an entanglement. And he said, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it was kind of known. Will Smith was

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Speaker 1: feeling a lot of pressure from that. People were bringing

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Speaker 1: it up a lot, and some people looked at this

463
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Speaker 1: Chris Rock moments, maybe his breaking point. But the cheating thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about it from these two different perspectives,

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Speaker 1: and it's funny how I don't know it's both things

466
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Speaker 1: are also I'm trying to they both walk that line

467
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Speaker 1: of like I'm sitting here asking myself, gosh, am I

468
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Speaker 1: am I too captivated by this vander Pump Rules thing,

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Speaker 1: because these are real people and these are real feelings,

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Speaker 1: and I feel bad, although I feel a little bit

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Speaker 1: better because with the vander Pump Rules crew, they're all

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Speaker 1: really leaning into it on Instagram too, like her friends,

473
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Speaker 1: Ariana's friends Katie and Lala are like we ride at dawn,

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Speaker 1: we ride for Ariana. We are going, we are coming

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Speaker 1: for these people. So they're very much leaning into the

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Speaker 1: drama too, which is smart for the show. See as

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm team Arianna. I write it down too.

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Speaker 1: But the Chris Rock thing I thought was very well done.

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Speaker 1: You're right, the last ten minutes. I don't recall laughing

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Speaker 1: much because even in the comedy there was pain, and

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Speaker 1: there was again this gravitas to it all that didn't

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Speaker 1: make it haha funny, but he did a good job

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Speaker 1: of trying to weave that comedic genius into it. It It

484
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Speaker 1: reminded me a little bit of Chappelle, who, as you know,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't be a bigger fan. I think he is

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Speaker 1: an absolute just brilliant comic, maybe the best there is

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Speaker 1: right now. And he does a good job of always

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Speaker 1: not as much making you laugh as making you think

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Speaker 1: in a comedic way, making you look at something from

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Speaker 1: a completely different angle. And I think Chris Rock did

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Speaker 1: a great job because, and this is something you and

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Speaker 1: I discussed. As a comic, you're not often the subject, right,

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Speaker 1: there's observational humor where even Chris Rock talked about his

494
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Speaker 1: wife on the show. He joked about his daughter on

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Speaker 1: the show, But this was about him. This is something

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Speaker 1: that happened to him, and it was such an iconic,

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Speaker 1: infamous moment, not an easy thing to try and spin

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Speaker 1: into a comedy routine, right, Like he made jokes about

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Speaker 1: Meg and Markle too, or he made jokes about Lulu Lemon.

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Speaker 1: But when you're it's one thing when you're talking about

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Speaker 1: a brand, a big different thing or person other than yourself.

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Speaker 1: It's another thing to be the news yourself and to

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Speaker 1: make jokes about it. And I think, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Meghan Markle stuff is probably going to get just as

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Speaker 1: many headlines that was. You know, he went after him

506
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Speaker 1: pretty strong, he did. I if you all haven't seen it,

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Speaker 1: he basically questioned whether some of the things that happened

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Speaker 1: to Megan Markle that she has said, we're racist, we're

509
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Speaker 1: racist interesting to me because Meghan Markle and Prince Harry

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Speaker 1: have that deal with Netflix. So I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: I do admire Netflix for keeping in differing opinions amongst

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Speaker 1: the various people that they're working with. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: you and you mentioned Dave Chappelle. Look, I don't agree

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Speaker 1: with everything that Dave Chappelle feels. I don't agree with

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Speaker 1: everything Chris Rock or everything Megan Markle and Prince Harry feel,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's important to discuss people's different opinions.

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Speaker 1: And I'm also interested to see how a live special

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Speaker 1: on Netflix did. Now we're getting all industry, but I'm like,

519
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Speaker 1: how did the live special do? Because they did make

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Speaker 1: a lot of jokes about I think the opening joke

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Speaker 1: that was made was like, this is the final death

522
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Speaker 1: knell of broadcast television. Yeah, that was dark. And that's

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Speaker 1: the thing is. I watched immediately just because I wanted

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Speaker 1: to see what was the production value on Netflix? How

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Speaker 1: are they going to lean into doing this live? I

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Speaker 1: thought it was very weird that pre show in a

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Speaker 1: completely different city. Why wouldn't you just do it in

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Speaker 1: Baltimore backstage or whatever. It was just so weird. I

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Speaker 1: think it was Ronnie Chang was hosting it said that too.

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Speaker 1: He's like, why are we doing this? Makes no sense

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Speaker 1: at all. He's like, but we have double satellites. We've

532
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Speaker 1: doubled the cost to this thing. So it was really weird.

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Speaker 1: And then they tried to you know, you could just

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Speaker 1: tell it was someone who probably hasn't not done a

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Speaker 1: lot of live because it was like the staged pre

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Speaker 1: can shot of walking up to his dressing room. Obviously

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Speaker 1: it was pre shot. And then there was the weird

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Speaker 1: thing where they dropped in on Jeff Ross, who I

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Speaker 1: guess was warming up for him Chris Rock in Baltimore. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it was weird. It was like it was kind of convoluted,

541
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Speaker 1: kind of hard to follow. But at the end of

542
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Speaker 1: the day, everybody just wanted to see Chris Rock, wanted

543
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: to hear what he was going to say. This has

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Speaker 1: been such an anticipated moment, not just for Netflix, but

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Speaker 1: for Rock to come out and finally speak on the

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Speaker 1: eve of the Oscars and how this will play out

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Speaker 1: now heading into Oscar week will be very interesting and

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Speaker 1: I just I thought he handled it really, really well,

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Speaker 1: about as good as you possibly could considering the circumstances. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting too to see now can Will

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Speaker 1: Smith come back from all this? And I'm also going

552
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Speaker 1: to ring it back to the Vanderpump Rules Crew, which

553
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: is a lot of fans online are saying, like loll

554
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Speaker 1: Raquel Rachel that she she did this. You know, she's

555
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Speaker 1: she started as a fan of the show, and then

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Speaker 1: she wound up on the show, so she's just trying

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Speaker 1: to further her career. And I don't know, it's if

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Speaker 1: you spin it perfectly, if you're someone who's on a

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Speaker 1: reality show and you are a villain, I don't know

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Speaker 1: you can always I do. I think people can always

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Speaker 1: have a redemption story. I'm not ruling Rock Heel or

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Speaker 1: Tom or anybody out yet because I will say, as

563
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Speaker 1: a longtime fan of Vanderpump Rules, a lot of people

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00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: have cheated on a lot of people on that show

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Speaker 1: and they've come back and we've fallen in love with them.

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Speaker 1: So certainly, not now and I'm not saying it's okay,

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00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: but years from now, they could have a redemption story.

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Speaker 1: And actually, the people that you're talking to, Ari Liondyke

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Speaker 1: and Lauren Lendyke, Ari somebody who I feel so differently

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Speaker 1: about now than I did years ago. Easily one of

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Speaker 1: the most controversial bachelors ever was Ari Liondyke Junior and

572
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: the infamous swap the Jason Mesnick that he pulled if

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Speaker 1: you will, and it will go down and did go

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Speaker 1: down as one of the craziest moments in television reality

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Speaker 1: television history, and there are things you don't know about

576
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: that about Ari and I a moment that happened before

577
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: he was the bachelor that could have changed everything. I'm

578
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: going to give you that story in so much more

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Speaker 1: on the backside of this break. We talked to Ari

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Speaker 1: and Lauren Lindyke right after this Welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: most dramatic podcast ever. Chris Harrison. Here, as I said

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Speaker 1: before the break, we have a very special guest, actually

583
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Speaker 1: special guests today. He was on the Bachelorette Emily Maynard

584
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Speaker 1: season went on to become the Bachelor and maybe the

585
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Speaker 1: most controversial bachelor ever, as he made the infamous swap

586
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Speaker 1: to his now beautiful wife Lauren, and they are now

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Speaker 1: parents of three, which begs the question, Ari and Lauren,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. How are you taking forty minutes

589
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Speaker 1: out of your day to do this with three kids

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Speaker 1: a babysitter that we love. Yes, and you caught us

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Speaker 1: at naptime, so it's actually a pretty good time during

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Speaker 1: so we planned this in the afternoon. So you guys

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Speaker 1: were really doing this during naptime? Ye? Yes, How are

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Speaker 1: the kid Let's just get it out of the way.

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Speaker 1: How are the kids? They're great. Yeah, they're really great

596
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: big babies. They're starting to talk now and lux yes,

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Speaker 1: yeah there. And how's big cis a lessie? She is

598
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: a three ager. She literally bossed us around, but you know,

599
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Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out this whole parenting of a toddler.

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Speaker 1: And she's very opinionated but super sweet and cute, but

601
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Speaker 1: she is very How old is a lessie now? Almos?

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00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: Okay before going on nineteen? Yes, I'm already seeing the

603
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: future and it looks terrified. I think I don't want

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Speaker 1: to scare you already, but you know I have one

605
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: teenage daughter. Um, you should be scared. Yeah, you should

606
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Speaker 1: be scared. You know. It's It's funny, is it wasn't

607
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Speaker 1: the the high school in going into college years. It

608
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: was really I think the worst time for girls is

609
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Speaker 1: going through the middle school age. It's those early teenage

610
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Speaker 1: years that were the most brutal for kind of bullying

611
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Speaker 1: and people changing and you know kids, you know, a

612
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: girl's growing up faster than the other girl. That was

613
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Speaker 1: probably the toughest time. It really wasn't those high school years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember that as a girl. That was the toughest

615
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Speaker 1: time for me too. Elsie my lord. It was funny

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Speaker 1: because when she came into Taylor's life, She's like, I

617
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: have not remembered this world since I went through it,

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00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: and you know, jumping into Taylor's life and she was

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Speaker 1: already a teenager, She's like, wow, that is there's a

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Speaker 1: lot going on. But yeah, y'all have get to look

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Speaker 1: forward to two X. But how is life like? How

622
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Speaker 1: is life for you guys with three kids, with trying

623
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: to you know, social media. I see you guys, and

624
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 1: everyone looks happy. That's not life. What's what's life really like?

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've definitely been through some trials. Yea. I

626
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: think it was really hard when the twins were firstborn

627
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: because we were figuring out how to balance twin newborns

628
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Speaker 1: and a two year old at the same time. So

629
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Speaker 1: we had some rough patches. But in a good spot

630
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Speaker 1: now and yeah, everyone seems to be happy these days,

631
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Speaker 1: which is really nice for a change. Yeah, we're in

632
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: this incredible sweet spot right now. I feel like because

633
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: the babies are starting to communicate, they're getting a lot easier,

634
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Speaker 1: we're being we're spending more time with each other, and

635
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Speaker 1: it's just it's a lot better than it was about

636
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: a year ago, which is pretty tough. When you say

637
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: you're going through rough patches. What is that as parents

638
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: but also as a couple, what is that? Well, I

639
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: don't think anything really could have prepared us for becoming

640
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: parents of twin newborns. You know, it sounds hard, but

641
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: we also were looking at the silver lining part of it.

642
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, it's gonna be so fun. We're gonna

643
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: have twin babies, Like, how cool is that? And then

644
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: we get into it and we're not sleeping at all.

645
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: We were getting like one hour of sleep at a time.

646
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: We were sleeping in separate bedrooms because we were trying

647
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: to allow of one of us to get sleep one

648
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: night and then the next night we would switch. So

649
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: we were kind of just like two ships past in

650
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: the night for a while. That's a good way to

651
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: scratch it. Yeah, we didn't make any time for each other.

652
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: You know, I think we're like, we were sleep depriabe. Also,

653
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: I think at that point you your temper is just

654
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: a little bit like your fuse is short, you know,

655
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of bickering and then you know, the

656
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: sex life kind of goes out the window there for

657
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: a while. And by the way, all those things you

658
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: just mentioned happened when there's one baby and you guys

659
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: have had three and then obviously the twins, so it

660
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: exacerbates all of that. I can only imagine. I didn't

661
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: even go through that, so I can only imagine. Yeah,

662
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: that is the things you do, and it's funny. You

663
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: laugh as a parent, You're like, what am I doing?

664
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: How have these little beings completely changed and up into

665
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: my life that I can't control anymore? You were completely

666
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: out of control. Yeah, it was hard, but it got better,

667
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: It got easier, and we prioritize our relationship. We made

668
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: sure that we spend time with each other away from

669
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: the kids. You know, we had my parents watch them,

670
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: or you know, we hired help to like give us

671
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of a break, and that was really

672
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: a much needed Yeah. I think Ari was really good

673
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: about that too. He kind of forced me to do

674
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: that when I maybe wasn't ready to do that in

675
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: the beginning. But he's like, we need to do this

676
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: for us. Let's you know, hire a babysitter and go

677
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: have a date night, or you know, leave them for

678
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: a weekend and we'll go have some time just us.

679
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: So I think I'm grateful now that he pushed us

680
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: to do that, because at the time I was a

681
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: little annoyed because I wanted to be with the babies

682
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, I think that's like natural, you know, yeah,

683
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: but it's important. I was going to ask you guys,

684
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: how you are keeping it going because people say, oh,

685
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: you got to keep dating. You got to get that's

686
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: easier said than done, especially when you're in that wheelhouse

687
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: of the newborn to three years old. It's just easier

688
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: said than done. And so how did you guys make

689
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: that time or did you just make sure, like just

690
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: find those little moments. Yeah, I think we did a

691
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: little bit of both, right, Yeah. I was definitely definitely

692
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: a scheduling like a date night or like mat being like, Okay, hey, Wednesday,

693
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna have my mom watch the babies. It's going

694
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: to be rough for her, but we need to go

695
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: to lunch and just like decompress, you know. I think

696
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: it's just like making the time, I think is the

697
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: biggest thing. And they're just sticking a lot of couples

698
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: we know do like a weekly thing. We didn't really

699
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: do that, but but yeah, just making the time one

700
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: thing amazes me. After you guys have been married, you know,

701
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: so long in the kids and I know you on

702
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: this different level now, but you guys are not immune

703
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: to rumors still about you. And it's funny there's this

704
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: still this poll to this other world. There's like breakup

705
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: rumors and all these things hit the tabloids and I'm like, whoa,

706
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: It's like, it's funny. I kind of forget that you

707
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: guys were still a part of that. But those rumors exist. Yeah,

708
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: they come up frequently, actually do Everyone's like, oh my gosh,

709
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: you're breaking up. Please don't tell me you're breaking up.

710
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: And we're not breaking up, but yeah, there apparently someone

711
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: thinks we are. That's true. I think there's a couple

712
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: Instagram pages out there that always push that out to

713
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: drive some traffic to I mean, to be honest, Ari

714
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: has a history being flaky, so you know, everyone just

715
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: like waiting for that moment. Yeah I changed my mind.

716
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah right, have three kids later. But it is funny.

717
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: I see those rumors and I'm like, oh, man, um kids,

718
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: you have three and this might be a really tough

719
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: time to ask, but will there be more? Honestly, we've

720
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: been saying no, this whole time, but we've thought about adopting. Yeah,

721
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: maybe in the future. And I honestly think I pulled

722
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: the trigger too fast on the vasectomy. So you got

723
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: a vasectomy, I did. I got a vasecto me. Lauren

724
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: was in the room, which was hilarious. By the way,

725
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: I recommend all the dads out there, if you're going

726
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: to get a vasectomy, leave your wife at home, full stop,

727
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: full stuff. On this interview, rewind Lauren was in the

728
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: room for your vasectomy? Yes, why, why? And how well

729
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: my doctor allowed it was the first mistake. I just think,

730
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: well why, I thought, why did you want that to happen?

731
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: First of all? First of all, I mean she birth

732
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: you know, three beautiful babies and twins, So I felt

733
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: like it was my duty to go in there and

734
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: just sack up for better luck, to suck it up. Buttercup, No,

735
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I understand you getting the vasectomy. I've

736
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: been down that road myself and been there and done that,

737
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: and so I know it's a rather emasculating moment when

738
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: your stuff's just kind of laying there on your stomach

739
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: and they're working and kind of caught a rizing and

740
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: cutting your vast deference tubes. So, Lauren, where are you

741
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: during all this? Give me your play by play. Well,

742
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: first I was sitting at his feet, just, you know,

743
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: minding my own business. And then I saw him turn

744
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: around minding his business, Yeah, his business. He started turning

745
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: white and he started pulling his hair out. So I

746
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: was like, okay, maybe I should go hold his hand

747
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: and like talk him through this. Chris, I mean, I

748
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: know now, but apparently I have some sort of what

749
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: is it a version? Not a version, but I'm immune

750
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: to Lydakane. Oh basically Lydaican doesn't work on me. So

751
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: they didn't deaden you, or couldn't deaden you. It did

752
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: not deaden anything. I felt, all, man, that's no fun

753
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah. So he's having a really hard moment

754
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: and his doctor's just there singing chestnuts roasting on an

755
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: open fire. Well, thanks for setting me up, because I

756
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: doubt it was a very hard moment for him at

757
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: that time. Um, sorry, that was too easy. So he

758
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: goes through this, you're sitting there, and you know they

759
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: patch him up at the end. I've you, guys, a

760
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: the only couple I've ever known to be in the

761
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: room together during a vasectomy. That is that's amazing. Only

762
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: you guys, I know, we do everything. It was super

763
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: embarrassing because you know, you're just on this table and this,

764
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: you know, they're like did you shave and I'm like yeah,

765
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: She's like, well he didn't shave good enough. And then

766
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: a nurse is like, oh god, I'm just like this

767
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: is weird. My ex was not in the room with me.

768
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: I did mind solo and luckily the latt kane worked.

769
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 1: But right as we're about to start, the doctor said, hey,

770
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: I have this new nurse practitioner. Do you mind if

771
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: she sits in? And you know whatever, I don't care.

772
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: At this point, I'm splayed out on the table and

773
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: this young girl comes in and she proceeds to turn

774
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: fifty shades of white, and I mean she's about to

775
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: pass out. Clearly this is the first time she's ever

776
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: seen this, And the doctor looks over and gave some

777
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: excuse off, like you need to go get me something,

778
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 1: as she kind of wabbled out of the room before

779
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: she passed out. But that was, yeah, it was I

780
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: did it with a total stranger, so probably have been

781
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: better if I'd done it with my significant other. Something.

782
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: A bonding experience. We're still laugh about it today. I mean,

783
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: what a date night, hebe, Let's go, let's crack a

784
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,479
Speaker 1: bottle to our new app, The Sect to Me Date.

785
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: Speaking of embarrassing moments, when people ask me, what's one

786
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: of your most embarrassing moments ever on Bachelor Bachelorette, it's

787
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: always my Ari story. And I don't know you and

788
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: I have never talked about this Ari. You were on

789
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: the Bachelorette Emily Maynard season. We were in Aruba. So

790
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: we're talking three four episodes in so three and a

791
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: half weeks of taping. I should really know who's on

792
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: the show by now, especially when someone's semi famous or

793
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: has a famous family. We're sitting around the table. I

794
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: think it was Jeff Holme. I think maybe Sean was there.

795
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: You and I start, I came by. I don't if

796
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: you remember, I played golf and I came by and

797
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: decided to have a couple of beers with you guys

798
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: and just chat. And so we're chatting and you start

799
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: talking about race cars and I said, oh, yeah, well,

800
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: you know it's funny. I just went to Indy to

801
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: the Indie five hundred and I did a ride along

802
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: in one of those indie cars. It was amazing. And

803
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: I'm telling this story and Ari pipes and he says, well, well,

804
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: who was your driver? And I said, oh, it's this

805
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: guy Ari Liondike Junior. Yeah. It was one of those

806
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: things where I should have clearly known who he was

807
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: by now, and there was no there was no graceful

808
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: way to back out of this moment. I mean, it

809
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: was the cat was out of the bag. I had

810
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: already made an ass of myself and are just looked

811
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: at me and was like, I'm I'm Ari Liondike j

812
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: He didn't say jackass, he didn't say dumbad. He just

813
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: said I'm Ari. And I felt two inches tall. I

814
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: felt like such a moron. It's okay, you never forgot

815
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: me after that day. No, that was that was but

816
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: well we've been dear friends ever since. But that was

817
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: easily the most embarrassing moment. I just put my foot

818
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: in my mouth and oh, yeah, this guy Ari linedyck

819
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: June you've probably never heard of him and more. But yeah,

820
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: it was actually a hilarious moment, Lauren. True story. So

821
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: this is like, I don't know, six months before the

822
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: Bachelorette when Ari was on it. I was just happened

823
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: to be at Indy and me and Makai Peiffer, Jerry

824
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: Rice we did this cool thing where we got to

825
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: do a ride along at the Indie five hundred and

826
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: you don't have any say who drives you. It was

827
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: you and uh like day Hamilton something like that. Yeah,

828
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: And so they just throw they throw the throw the

829
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: fire retardant helmet on you and all this other stuff

830
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: and they just they yell at you and they're like

831
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: get in the car and they strapped you in. I

832
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: didn't know if this guy had been on a three

833
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: day bender. I didn't know if he was angry at

834
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: his ex girlfriend and wanted to fly into the wall.

835
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm just you really put your trust into these guys

836
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: that are gonna slam you around the track at two

837
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour. Yeah. Yeah, that's so cool. I've

838
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: actually done it a couple of times too. It's a

839
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: really awesome experience. Yeah. It's funny. Funny when you pull

840
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: up your phone and you're like, oh, look here's the picture,

841
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: and you had you were standing in front of the car.

842
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, yep, that's me. I did, I said to

843
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: the picture, and You're like, you are such an idiot,

844
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: but I know that is obviously in your blood. And

845
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: for quite some time after the show pre Kids, you

846
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: were into trucks, you were racing, still breaking your bones,

847
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: putting your life a danger. At what point did you

848
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: say or was it Lauren that said, Hey, I kind

849
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: of need you here at dinner time and beyond, so

850
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: we kind of have to rethink this. Yeah, I think

851
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: it was more like the dad guilt of like leaving

852
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 1: the family. We tried to do a couple of racism

853
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: bring everyone, but it just didn't turn out well. I

854
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: think we took a Lessie to a race and she

855
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: was like up all night. I got like two hours

856
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: of sleep, and I'm like, I can't perform, you know,

857
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 1: at the same level doing this. So then I would

858
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: go without her and I would just go by myself,

859
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: like a race Nashville a few years ago, and it

860
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: just felt I just felt like a little bit of

861
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: dad guilt because it's not my profession anymore, you know.

862
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: I make a little bit here in there, but it's

863
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: not like that's my living. So if it works out

864
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: to where I race in the future now and then

865
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: I'll do it, but for this phase of life, I

866
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: definitely need to be home, you know, Lauren. One thing

867
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: I've never talked to you about was the end of

868
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: ARI season, and not to go far back and bring

869
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: up an awkward time for all of us, but I've

870
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: never heard the story and maybe I'm sure you've talked

871
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: about it. When he chose Becca, I was so immersed

872
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: in that, and I was so in this with Ari.

873
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: I was not in this with you. What was your

874
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: world like? What was your take immediately after? I've never heard.

875
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it was really hard for me. I

876
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: was heartbroken, but yeah, I mean I just remember it

877
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: was actually my birthday the day he broke up with me, too,

878
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: which made it even work. What a cruel bastard? Who

879
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: does that? Who? I know? Rude, But no, it was

880
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: just like a really hard time. It took a while

881
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: for me to process it, and you know, it was

882
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve and I feel like I was finally

883
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: over it, and then he DMed me you didn't have

884
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: like a women's intuition sixth sense about you that it

885
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: wasn't over. Well, I mean when I left, I told

886
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: everyone that I said that he's making a mistake, and

887
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: I think by the time he realizes it, it'll be

888
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: too late because I will have moved on by then.

889
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: So I held out for a little bit, thinking maybe

890
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: he would reach out. But by the time he did,

891
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well I'm going to move on now.

892
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: And that was just about the time he caught me,

893
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: so it was like, yeah, any longer I probably would

894
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: have I guess to set the timeline, it was probably

895
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: about a month after shooting. I'll never forget when already

896
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: called me. I'll never forget that. I remember where I

897
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: was sitting. I was in my office at my home

898
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: in La when are he called me and to tell

899
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: me he was having these thoughts and really wanted to

900
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: go seek you out. And what did I tell you? Not?

901
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: You not your best supporter at the time. No, You're like,

902
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: this is not gonna be good for you, man, this

903
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be really bad. I said, I have been

904
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: better be sure. I remember you saying something like you

905
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: better be sure, like this better be worth it, Like

906
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you're being put in this position, um

907
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: as a lead of this this network network show, and

908
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of opportunities that can come after this,

909
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: but kiss all those opportunities goodbye. But I did. I

910
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: was because I had been through this with Jason Mesnick.

911
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: He did the same thing, and obviously again it worked,

912
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: so it was the right play. But I said, there

913
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: is a price to pay for this, and if you're

914
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: going to do this, it can't be a whim. It

915
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: can't be a hey. I just want to see you

916
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: better know. And one thing I always loved about you

917
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: at that moment are as you said, I know in

918
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: my heart, I know, and I'm willing to give it

919
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: all up because that's what essentially happened at the time.

920
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: Obviously you have now become one of the more beloved

921
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: members of our family, but at the time you did

922
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: you gave it all up for that chance, just a

923
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: chance to talk to Lauren. Yeah. No, I think that's

924
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: like the thing that people always like not even mentioned

925
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: like it didn't like they don't ever realize. At that moment,

926
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: I knew that it was going to be, you know, bad,

927
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: bad for us in the beginning, but you know, honestly

928
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: for us, we loved each other so much and when

929
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: we did get back together, we spent months together doing

930
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: happy couple. I don't know, how do you describe that?

931
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: You know, of course the sneak aways. Yeah, so, you know,

932
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: we we had formed this bond and we knew it

933
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: was going to be a controversial finale, so we were like,

934
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: it's kind of us against the world, and that really

935
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: pull us together. And after the show, we really felt

936
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: like we didn't really have many supporters, so we just

937
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: had to lean on each other. Yea, and that really

938
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: strengthened our bond. Well, that's either going to kill you

939
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: or cure your cure you. I mean, you're either gonna

940
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: make it or not at that moment, right, I mean, y'all,

941
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: but y'all did y'all bonded together? Can how open can

942
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: I be with Lauren on the line here about telling

943
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: Ari stories? You can be very okay. I don't have

944
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: to ask her to step out of the room because

945
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: I've never told this story. Nobody knows this story except

946
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: for Ari myself. Well in one young lady on the

947
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: Sunset Boulevard knows this story. This is so Ari. Obviously

948
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: post Bachelorette Emily season, he and I become friends and

949
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: it was there was a while obviously between bachs or

950
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, the Bachelorette. Then when he became the bachelor,

951
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: so we hung out a lot. We're fairly similar in age,

952
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: so we got along really well, became good friends. He

953
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: was in town and I said, hey, let's go out tonight.

954
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: So I go pick him up at the hotel. We

955
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: go out to some bar on sunset in LA and

956
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: we're sitting there having some tacos, drinking some tequila, having

957
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: a great time. These three or four really attractive women

958
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: kind of sit in the booth next to us. They

959
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: they clearly know who Ari is immediately, and I mean

960
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: their eyes widen and it's like they just saw a

961
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: buffet and so lo and behold and we're about to

962
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: shoot the show. I mean, so he is the bachelor.

963
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: So this is think God before really camera's videos and

964
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 1: all that stuff went crazy, or else you never would

965
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: have been the Bachelor. This would have been a disaster

966
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: for me too, because these girls come over and they say,

967
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna buy you guys some shots, and we're like, okay, whatever,

968
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: what's the harm in that? And they buy shots and

969
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: they said no, no, no, we're going to do them

970
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: off your body. Wait the show. This is right before

971
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: the show is right after bachelorette, after bachelerette, before he

972
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: became before we started taping the Bachelor, but he was

973
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: already named the bachelor. We knew he was going to

974
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: be the guy. So this is not a good look

975
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: if it ends this story. I swear I'm told her

976
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: this story. So this might break you guys up. So

977
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: this is not This is not a good look if

978
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: we get busted. So they say, no, we're going to

979
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 1: do these shots off you and Ari and the shy

980
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: guy he is. Says great, pulls up his shirt, lays

981
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: on the table in this diner, in this restaurant, laying

982
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: across the table, shirt up, and the girls are putting

983
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: shots on his belly button and they are doing body

984
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: shots off of Ari, half naked in a restaurant in

985
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: the middle of La Yes, I was very simple at

986
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: the time. I will say I was very one hundred

987
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: percent you are he was about to be the bachelor.

988
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: But how great would that picture have been of you

989
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: and I and you? Because I was like sitting right here,

990
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: his body's like this, and the girls in front of

991
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: me doing the shots off of him. That would have

992
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: been a good look, buddy. Oh so funny. I'm kind

993
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: of disappointed that didn't get out right after your season.

994
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: That's true. I mean there's probably surveillance video that's somewhere

995
00:51:47,680 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: somewhere Sunset Boulevard at two am, some dive bar. My

996
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: other sad unfortunate Ari stories. I tried to hook him

997
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: up on a date. Okay, I need some dirt on

998
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: this because I feel like you left a lot out

999
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: of this, out of the story. I did. So my

1000
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: history with this person is I went on one date,

1001
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: no connection. I didn't know this person. It was a

1002
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:30,479
Speaker 1: blind date, and nothing happened at all. We kept in touch,

1003
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: we became friends, and she said, Hey, I'm moving to Scottsdale.

1004
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: Is there anybody single that you think maybe I should date.

1005
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 1: I got the guy for you. I got a great

1006
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: guy single. He's a good dude, and so yes, I

1007
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: did hook Ari up. This girl did turn out to

1008
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: be a playboy playmate. Chris, you're not making me look bad.

1009
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: I feel like this. You know it's okay. Yeah, but yeah,

1010
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: that was another time when I've really I don't know

1011
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: why we're friends. I've really tried to rule in your

1012
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: life over and over again. Oh no, what was even

1013
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: more funny about that? Relationship. We dated for a few

1014
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: months and it was going pretty well, and then she's like, yeah,

1015
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: I just never worked out with Chris, and I was like, wait, wait,

1016
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: record scratch, yeah. I like when I hooked you up

1017
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: the first time, I think I failed to mention that

1018
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: we had gone out once, because you know, as soon

1019
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: as you hear that and your buddy has been on

1020
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: you're like, that's all I can picture now, not going

1021
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: to do it. I didn't want to ruin it before

1022
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: it ever started. But speaking of dating, by the way,

1023
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm excited for this new venture. You guys just launched

1024
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: the app called Duo. It's not a dating app, it

1025
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: is a date app. Ye give me, give me before

1026
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: I talk about Laura and I Elze and I going

1027
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: on our date, give give me the flyover of what

1028
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: exactly Duo is and why did you guys do this?

1029
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: So Duo is a date inspiration app, So when you

1030
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: first open it, it's free and it gives you all

1031
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: different kinds of date cards where you get different inspiration

1032
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: for things you could do by yourself, and we've curated lists.

1033
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: You can order things to do at home. And then

1034
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: also there's a surprise date portion where Ari and I

1035
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: will actually plan with our team a surprise date for

1036
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: whoever signs up. So we send you on an activity.

1037
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: You have to unlock the second portion by answering your

1038
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: question about the first, and then we send you out

1039
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: to dinner. And we're kind of trying to give people

1040
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: the experience that we had when we first started dating,

1041
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: where a lot of things were a surprised Yeah. I

1042
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: mean obviously The Bachelor, I feel like is such an

1043
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: interesting experience because you're doing these dates that are so extravagant,

1044
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: but also there's a complete surprise to you, so they

1045
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: do bond you. Like, let's say you have a fear

1046
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: of heights and now you're doing something that kind of

1047
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 1: pushes your boundaries. If you do it as a couple,

1048
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: it really does strengthen that relationship. I think it does

1049
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: like push that envelope of moving you forward. So that's

1050
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: kind of experience that we wanted to give to our users,

1051
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: and I think it's working out really well so far.

1052
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 1: You guys tried to do that to Lauren and I

1053
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: on our day, you sneaky little devils. So Elz and

1054
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: I we did one of these dates that you guys

1055
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: curated for us, And first of all, let me just

1056
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: say it is awesome. It really is that you know,

1057
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: quote unquote bachelor experience, where all we knew was how

1058
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: to dress and that when we were going to be

1059
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: picked up, and where the first stop was going to

1060
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: be just a hint, you're going to a pink building.

1061
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: That's all we knew. And Lauren and I walked into

1062
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: something we'd never done before and it definitely pushed our

1063
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: boundaries of this cool art class. Now I'll let you

1064
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: guys explain how that art class is going to be

1065
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: very interesting. But the whole date experience really was spectacular.

1066
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: But we walk in there and there's this really lovely

1067
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 1: young lady, And then explain what you guys were actually

1068
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: trying to set up for us. We just wanted you

1069
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: to experience your own sort of Titanic moment. You know,

1070
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 1: it was optional to draw the person there nude or clothed,

1071
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: and then also to take that inspiration back home with you.

1072
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: We wrote you a little card that said, you know,

1073
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: now that you've practiced, you know, would you like to

1074
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: And there was a no, not you know, would you

1075
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: like to draw each other? And said no, just kidding,

1076
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: this isn't The Bachelor, you know, a little pun on that.

1077
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: We did go home and h and I drew Lauren

1078
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: and um, you know, Lauren, you should have drawn Ari

1079
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: during his vasectomy. That would have been the picture. But

1080
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: so we told our our model please remain clothed. We're

1081
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: on a date. But it was I mean, honestly, the

1082
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: date was curated so well. We had the music, we

1083
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: had some great wine. You guys know us well, we

1084
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: had a beautiful bottle of wine. And then after that

1085
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: we got in a car. We had no idea where

1086
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: were we're going. We went to this amazing restaurant in Austin,

1087
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: Texas called Hestia, which, ironically, and I said this on

1088
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: this story that I posted, I'd never been. I'd never

1089
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: even heard of this restaurant. And it was this magnificent

1090
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 1: eleven course meal, wine pairing. We just had the best night.

1091
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: And again it was all thanks to you guys, all

1092
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: thanks to the duo app. I love this idea of

1093
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: a surprise date and it could be curated as high

1094
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: or as low as somebody wants it. Yeah, it's completely

1095
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: dependent upon the user's budget. So they can put you know,

1096
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: fifty dollars and we can set something up special for

1097
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: any sort of amount, because it's really about the thought

1098
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: that goes into it, and there are plenty of things

1099
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: to do on a lower budget, and then they can

1100
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: be you know, the sky's a limit as well. We

1101
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: can do extravagant dates as well, but we do want

1102
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: to let people know that really it's within their control

1103
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: in their budget. Well, and what I loved about it

1104
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: was it's easy for one of us to surprise the

1105
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: other one. That's usually how a date works, or a

1106
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: surprise works. It's really impossible for both of you to

1107
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: be surprised, you know. And that was the magic of

1108
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: the night, was us getting ready together talking. You know,

1109
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of like again like the show, we're discussing,

1110
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: what do you think it's going to be? What do

1111
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: you think they'll they'll do to us? You know, Laura,

1112
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: my girl is LZ was She's like, I don't love heights.

1113
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: Maybe you're gonna throw us off a building, Maybe they're

1114
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: gonna you know, who knows what they're gonna do. And

1115
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: so just the anticipation in the talking allowed us that

1116
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: hour or so getting ready to talk, then going there

1117
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: not knowing what we were walking into. And then even

1118
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: after just talking about what we just experienced together. So

1119
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: the whole night just really put us in such a

1120
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: great place. So I love the idea of you guys

1121
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: doing this. Thank you. I'm glad you guys had a

1122
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: good time. And I do want to say for everyone

1123
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: out there, if you do sign up for a date,

1124
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: you can put the criteria for whatever you would like.

1125
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: Chris ask for something weird, so we send, but that's

1126
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: not that's not really where we send everyone. But yeah,

1127
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: it's really like, for example, my parents are you know,

1128
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: they just requested a date and they said, we want indoors, simple, romantic.

1129
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: They're like, basically like, make it us boring us false well,

1130
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: and we're like, okay, you know, like if you are

1131
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: not don't want to do anything that will put you

1132
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: outside of your comfort zone, We're not going to force

1133
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: it upon you. But some people are like, I want

1134
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 1: to do something thrilling, I want to do something off

1135
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: the wall, I want to do something I've never done before.

1136
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: Then our creative minds really have to get to work.

1137
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: So there is definitely a date out there for anyone.

1138
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: I did say, you can't make it weird enough. That

1139
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: was It was awesome, It really was congratulations to you guys.

1140
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a huge hit. I

1141
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: think it's going to really be accepted well across the

1142
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: country because it's everybody's chance to to play long and

1143
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: be a part of something that all of us kind

1144
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: of knew very well. And it is that pushing the

1145
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: boundaries creativity, being a part of something you're not sure of,

1146
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: and then bonding together. It was awesome. Oh great. Yeah,

1147
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: we're so happy that you loved it. And you guys,

1148
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: y'all have a million things going on, I know other

1149
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: than that, and that's why I appreciate you guys taking

1150
00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: a little time today during nap time to pull this off. Yeah,

1151
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: we appreciate you and you're and obviously it's awesome that

1152
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: you and Lauren got to go on a date and

1153
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: we love your support and you know, it's it's been

1154
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: it's been awesome. Like we've been friends now for so long, Chris,

1155
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: it's like insane to think of how long now we've

1156
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: known each other. And it's just really cool to see

1157
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: where you're at in your career. And we always will

1158
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: succore you well. I appreciate and you guys always have,

1159
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: by the way, and I want to send you both

1160
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: love because from day one when everything was going on,

1161
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: you guys were there, and you guys spoke up and

1162
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: you never shied away from the love and support, and

1163
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: so Laura and I adore you guys, and it has

1164
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: been amazing to kind of we you know, we'll FaceTime

1165
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: with Ari and Lauren from time to time. You know,

1166
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: we're having this really calm, nice dinner, drinking a glass

1167
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: of wine, and then we zoom in or FaceTime into

1168
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: y'all's life and it's just kate honest, naked kids running around.

1169
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: There's like kids hanging off of you. It's like a

1170
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: jungle gym and it's funny. Then we like turn off

1171
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: our FaceTime and Elsie and I just look at each other.

1172
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, wow. But it is that beautiful chaos

1173
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: though the noise is good, isn't it. Everyone always says

1174
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: that that you know is kind of thick. Yeah, that

1175
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: you miss that chaos, yeah, And so we're trying to

1176
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: soak it in. Our babies are only little one time,

1177
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: so it's so true. It's hard. But everyone that we've

1178
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: talked to that has kids that have grown up always

1179
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: say that, So I don't remember, you know Joshua, who

1180
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: you know is now twenty one years old in the

1181
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: junior my oldest in college, and it's like, I don't

1182
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: remember him banging pots and pans on the floor anymore.

1183
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: I don't remember the crawling in this screaming and the

1184
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: getting up in the middle of the night and throwing

1185
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: up all over me. All those things that at the

1186
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: time make your relationship really difficult. But then you look

1187
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: back and you're like, damn it, those were the good times,

1188
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: Like that was the good stuff. And so I'm glad

1189
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: you guys admit, yeah, there's those times when it's really difficult,

1190
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: but you got to look at each other and just

1191
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: laugh because that's the good stuff. Totally. Yeah, we're very

1192
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: grateful for everything they've got going on, even if it's hard. Well,

1193
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: and it's amazing to have watched you guys, and watch

1194
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: al grow but then now obviously get to know you

1195
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: and love you, Lauren is especially just as this family,

1196
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: this beautiful family, and to watch the kids grow up

1197
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: and to do it from afar is great. Well, you're

1198
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: welcome to come over anytime, Chris if you want to babysit,

1199
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: and you know that's a date night. That's a duo date.

1200
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna return this to you. Elsie and I are

1201
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: going to come to Arizona. We're gonna babysit for a

1202
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: night and you guys go have a date night that

1203
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: the show. I would do that in a heartbeat. Well, guys,

1204
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I do. I appreciate you taking

1205
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: the time. I know you've got a million things to do,

1206
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: so I'll let you go, but love you both dearly.

1207
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: And you know Elsie and I are always here for you,

1208
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: all right, We love you too. Thanks Chris, say hey, Lauren. Bye.

1209
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,439
Speaker 1: My Thanks to Ari and Lauren for taking time out.

1210
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: They have three beautiful kids, but they have their hands

1211
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: full with Senna, Lux and Alessie. And luckily it was

1212
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: now time we got to spend some time together. And

1213
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: it is amazing. And that's one of the things I

1214
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: always say about why I will always be grateful for

1215
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: my time on the show, because there are real friends

1216
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,479
Speaker 1: in my life because of that show, and I could

1217
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: never begrudge that. And Ari is one of those people

1218
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: that from the moment I didn't know who he was

1219
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: to now we have become such good friends. And to

1220
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: have watched his family grow has just really been a

1221
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: privilege of mine and now to be a part of

1222
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: their lives again. It's just one of those beautiful things

1223
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: that came out of this crazy show that I will

1224
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: always be proud of. And I'm proud of this podcast

1225
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: and I thank you all for being a part of

1226
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: it today, and I hope you'll join me next time

1227
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: because we have a lot more to talk about. Thanks

1228
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: for listening. Follow us on Instagram at the most Dramatic

1229
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: pod ever, and make sure to write us a review

1230
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: and leave us five stars. I'll talk to you next time.