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Again, that's promo code two 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 5: pros at DraftKings. The crown is yours all right, Boys 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 5: Conference Championships Sunday in the NFL coming up this weekend. 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 5: We got Drake May versus Jared Stidham, and we got 31 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford versus Sam Darnold. We got football. It's all 32 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 5: coming down and coming to an end here. Three games left. 33 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 5: That's all we got left of this football season, unless 34 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 5: you count the Pro Bowl games. Whatever that fiasco is 35 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 5: where guys are playing. 36 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: It's not an actual game though, right not any Are you 37 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: ready for some football? 38 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, I'm ready? All right. 39 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 5: So that being said, biggest storyline for you that jumps 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 5: out because I'll start, can Jared Stidham just not turn 41 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 5: the ball over, Just don't turn the ball over, Just 42 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 5: play it safe. The defense is going to come up 43 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 5: with a couple of plays here or there. And I 44 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 5: believe that the Denver Broncos have a shot. I believe 45 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 5: they've got a shot in this game. All right now, 46 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 5: the points spread, according to our friends of DraftKings, as 47 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 5: it stands right now, is the Broncos as a four 48 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 5: and a half point underdog. There's been some reports out 49 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 5: there that that is the biggest home underdog in a 50 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 5: conference championship game in NFL history. I got to look 51 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 5: into that a little bit more. I seem to remember 52 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 5: somebody being a bigger underdog once. But nonetheless, the Broncos 53 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 5: are the underdog heading into this game and what appears 54 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 5: to be another eventual appearance by the New England Patriots 55 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 5: in a Super Bowl, which is crazy. 56 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: I do appreciate to some of the banter going on 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: right now, to Sean Payton talking about, you know, the 58 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: fan base having a long break after this game, like 59 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: a two week break almost like say hey, we're we're 60 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: gonna win this game, and then k Shawn Bowett, you know, 61 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: coming out there and say, yeah, they can have a 62 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: long break of Canton Cancun two. So there's already a 63 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: little bit of bulletin war material. What I love about 64 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: this is the expectation is exactly what you just said. 65 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 6: Is all just don't turn. 66 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: The football or just manage the game. If for anyone 67 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: who knows Sean Payton. That's not how he's gonna call 68 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: the game. That's not how they're gonna play the game. 69 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna put Jared Stidham in a spot 70 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: where he can have the opportunity to win the game. 71 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: And whether that's due play, action, pass boots, everything else, 72 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: they have to get the run game going to help 73 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: him out. But it wasn't like it was necessarily going. 74 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: And then the last game too, So I think what 75 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm most curious to see is if the defense, which 76 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: for Denver we kind of talk about all how great 77 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: they are, how good they are, they really weren't versus 78 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: Buffalo if we're being honest, Like when you give up 79 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: that many points, is that really playing great defense? So 80 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see if that group can be as 81 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: dominant and get as many negative plays as we've seen 82 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the year. And if you know, 83 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: the New England pages can stop the rushing attack. And 84 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: then and the last thing is just like the home 85 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: field advantage for Denver. Like I played there as a player, 86 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: I played against them, it is real. That place is loud, 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: The altitude gets to you. In particular in the second half. 88 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: So clearly New England's got the edge because they have 89 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: their difference maker and their quarterback. 90 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 6: But I am not counting out the. 91 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos, like especially not with the Sean Payton coach team, 92 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: who you know he's gonna scheme some things up. And 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: I would say, if you looked at this just championship 94 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: weekend in general, you have on display some of the 95 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 1: best offensive minds in the NFL right now. Obviously, Sean 96 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Payton got a Super Bowl, He's had a long tenure 97 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: of doing this. Josh McDaniels on the other side for 98 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: New England, same thing, Sean McVeigh and Super Bowl, great tenure. 99 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: Of doing this. 100 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: Obviously, again mc daniels has him as an assistant too. 101 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: And then just Quint Kopiak, who's interviewing for head coaching jobs. 102 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: He's done a tremendous job in Seattle. Like, you're highlighted 103 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: by a lot of great offensive coordinators, guys who can 104 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: call plays, and it's gonna be exciting to see like 105 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: which one is able to show up. Because we talked 106 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: about a little bit yesterday and really earlier this week 107 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: with Dean they're kind of letting him play there's a 108 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: lot of holding that is not being called at least 109 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: up fun in the trenches, and they're letting these guys 110 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: throw the football around a little bit. 111 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 6: And if that's gonna be the case, I think there'll 112 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 6: be some points. 113 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: So I don't think you're gonna see as much conservatism 114 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: from the Bronx because as you're anticipating Jonas. 115 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 5: LaVar A, you hear you see what he did there 116 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 5: multiple times, multiple examples of shade being thrown at the 117 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 5: defense all right, pointing out all the elite offensive play callers, 118 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 5: also pointing out that the Denver defense wasn't that great, 119 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 5: dismissing that incredible. 120 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 6: You guys tell me were they were? They great? 121 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 5: Versus okay, that incredible interception and overtime. You need to 122 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 5: tell me that every defense that indible talking like that 123 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 5: that it's an incredible defensive playing overtime. You need to 124 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: tell me that. You need to tell me that no 125 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 5: other defense could do that. 126 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,559 Speaker 6: Come on, man, it could have been a catch depend 127 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 6: on who you ask. 128 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: But you know, here's here's what I'll say. 129 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go to the the other game as as 130 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 7: to me, potentially a big story that that may emerge 131 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 7: from from this game is Sam Darnold. 132 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: And if he, if he completes this. 133 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 7: Resurrection of his career and is able to go to 134 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 7: the Super Bowl, he will have effectively gone further than 135 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 7: Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson. And why is 136 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 7: that significant in this conversation because they were the top 137 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 7: guys that when we were talking earlier about the Steelers 138 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 7: and heavy draft classes with quarterbacks, how many will go 139 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 7: in the first round. Those are all the quarterbacks that 140 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 7: went in the first round of the twenty eighteen draft. Also, 141 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 7: Josh two of those two of those guys are considered 142 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 7: to be bona fide, bona fide franchised quarterbacks. And those 143 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 7: two quarterbacks are getting new head coaches next year. 144 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: They have not lived up to the billing. 145 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 7: In terms of making it to the Super Bowl. And 146 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 7: you have one that had the potential in Cleveland, didn't 147 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 7: work out, had his career go in a good direction 148 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 7: in Tampa, but potentially almost lost his head coach this offseason. 149 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 7: And out of the four, if you would have said 150 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 7: two years ago, three years ago that Sam Darnald right 151 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 7: now would be the one quarterback out of those names 152 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 7: to be going up against none other than Matthew Stafford, 153 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 7: who's a top quarterback guy, top quarterback class guy out 154 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 7: of his draft to get to the super Bowl. I 155 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 7: think it's a hell of a story. I think it's 156 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 7: one hell of a story. And if Sam Donald is 157 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 7: a part of Seattle going to the super Bowl winning 158 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 7: this weekend, it's got to be a tremendously large story 159 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 7: of reporting what that young man has overcome and what 160 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 7: he's endured to actually get to where he would be. 161 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 6: Can I ask this, we'll change the narrative? 162 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: Do you think for a lot of teams out there 163 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: too who cast away the Baker Mayfields, the Sam Donald's 164 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: after the initial stint and say may I mean we 165 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: should give these guys another look. 166 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 6: I mean, maybe these guys just leave a little more time. 167 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: You know, we heard Ben Roethlisberger talk about what Pittsburgh 168 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: needs to do for whoever the next quarterback is, and 169 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: he's saying, like, not even drafting guy, Like you need 170 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 1: two three years of building around the position before you 171 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: put that guy in there. And I think he's saying 172 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: that because he looks at the league now and he says, 173 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: look at how little patience people have. You know, guys 174 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: get thrust into go play maybe before the ready, but 175 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: also before they have anything around them, and then when 176 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, they're like, oh, well they're bums, 177 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: Like who's the next guy. Well, now you're looking at 178 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: Sam Donald as fifth team taking his team to the 179 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. Now I would say this about Sam Donald. 180 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: They haven't really he hasn't really been tested this year. 181 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: Like you go back to last week's win vers San 182 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: Francisco and they blew him out. You know, it wasn't 183 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: really wasn't putting in any tough spots. So this could 184 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: be a big game, a big proving moment. And even 185 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: when you look at their two matchups earlier this year, 186 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: so that stuff kind of got away from them. 187 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 6: So I look at it and say, like, this is 188 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 6: a huge moment. 189 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: I think to change the narrative around a lot of 190 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: those guys too, who were drafted somewhere it didn't work out, 191 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: or maybe some of those teams who do take them, 192 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: like have some patience with how these guys end up 193 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: developing as quarterbacks, not just you know, throwing the bathwater 194 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: out with the baby as soon as there's any you know, 195 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: struggle in the first. 196 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 6: Year or two. 197 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 7: I think it's a fine point, and I think it 198 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 7: does create hope. I think it does open up the conversation. 199 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 7: I mean, what is the reality of did somebody you 200 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 7: know get judged too quickly in their career or not? 201 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 202 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 7: You know, more often than not, guys don't really make 203 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 7: a recovery. They don't really resurface it. Like every once 204 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 7: in a rent while you will see a flicker, you know, 205 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 7: you'll see a Geno Smith. It was a flicker, you know. 206 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 7: I kind of felt like, hey, the end of the 207 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 7: year for Minnesota. You know, even Sam Darnold seemed like 208 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 7: his pumpkin, you know, his cart turned back to a 209 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 7: pumpkin at midnight. I mean, and listen, he hasn't set 210 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 7: the world on fire as their their starter, but nonetheless 211 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 7: he is their quarterback and has played well for Seattle 212 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 7: and so much so where they're in the position that 213 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 7: they're in and getting further than what he was able 214 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 7: to do prior to being in Minnesota, which means that 215 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 7: he's good. 216 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: Like he's good, he's a good he's a good ballplayer. 217 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 7: So I think it's a big story because it does 218 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 7: open up the conversation how good is he? I don't 219 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 7: know how good is somebody that was drafted in the 220 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 7: same type of situation he was in where he did 221 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 7: go to the Jets, And who would say that any 222 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 7: quarterback going or or any player at that going to 223 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 7: the New York Jets should be judged in terms of 224 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 7: how good are they really as a pro I think 225 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 7: it does open the conversation, but you know, how how 226 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 7: realistic is it to look at quarterbacks and in general 227 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 7: as a whole. You went early, but you didn't play 228 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 7: well early, and now you're you're kind of traveling around. 229 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 7: We're still gonna look at you highly. I don't know 230 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 7: how that conversation plays out, but this is I think 231 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 7: a hell of a story if Sam Darnold can can 232 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 7: get it done on this big of a stage where 233 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 7: there's only four teams playing. 234 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 5: He's been not very good against the Rams, Like it's 235 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 5: not it's not gone well. I mean even this year, 236 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 5: like the two matchups, you know, the you know, the 237 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 5: first one, it was awful still somehow they were in 238 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 5: that game because of their defense. The second one up 239 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 5: until what like six seven minutes left in the game, 240 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 5: it felt like the Rams are going to run away 241 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 5: with that. It went to overtime. There was the fluky 242 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 5: two point conversion. There's a lot of things that had 243 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 5: to go there. You could call it fluky, but they 244 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 5: got it okay. 245 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 7: And he threw the ball, didn't He didn't he throw 246 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 7: it to the tight end or whatever he delivered the 247 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 7: ball to the time. 248 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 5: I mean nobody, nobody, he knew that it was behind 249 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage. Charvionage just picked it up out 250 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 5: of habit and they rolled it a successful. 251 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 7: Two point Yeah that one, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like 252 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 7: that's just I was thinking of the other one. Did 253 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 7: he win the game with a throat to the tight end? 254 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 8: Uh? 255 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah he did two point conversion. But yeah, so 256 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 5: I look at it, I go, it's a great story. 257 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 5: And if we're going to get weird with the Super Bowl, 258 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 5: and this is going to be a weird super Bowl 259 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 5: with a bunch of teams that nobody thought was going 260 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 5: to be, you know, anywhere close to this. Uh, some 261 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 5: of the odds going into the season. I was looking 262 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 5: up just to try and get a gauge, like, you know, 263 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 5: who's really sitting on a winning ticket just to get 264 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 5: to the super Bowl. The new England Patriots to get 265 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 5: to the super Bowl before the year were I believe 266 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 5: thirty to one, thirty to one, sore. 267 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: Side, you brought him up. 268 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 7: There's that. That's the net to me. That's the biggest 269 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 7: story as well. Those are the two Mike Vrabel and 270 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 7: New England getting this far, getting getting close. That's a 271 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 7: big story. Yeah, it's big. 272 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, thirty to one, so some you know, one of 273 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 5: the in laws, Brady is sitting there with a thirty 274 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 5: to one ticket, but on the Pats getting to the 275 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 5: super Bowl. So you guys should be proud man. 276 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean it's there's a lot there. I mean, 277 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: it would do me a great joy and just seeing 278 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: Denver find a way to win this thing, just for 279 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: the storyline, you know, for it kind of goes back 280 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: to the column mind early this week too about being 281 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: as saying, rather be lucky than good. I mean, think 282 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: about if Jared Steam's able to win this game and 283 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna have the opportunity to do it. Like every 284 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: young boy who plays quarterback dreams of win a super Bowl. 285 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 6: And granted I don't care how it was. 286 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: Presented to you, you know, just because you got to 287 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: win a couple of games, he's gonna have the opportunity 288 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: to do it, and it would be one of the craziest, 289 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: coolest things ever and probably the longest two weeks of 290 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: his life if Denver can figure out a way of 291 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: doing it. 292 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 6: But again, it's a heavy ass. 293 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: I think what Sean Payne's going to do to help 294 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: him out is there'll be a lot of mixture of personnels, 295 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: and he's going to give him personnels. 296 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 6: That it's not going to make it muddy for him. 297 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: What the picture is, he's got very clear directives is 298 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: what he's asked to do. What is read is where 299 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: he's you know, got potential danger in the protections where 300 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't. I think all those things are going to 301 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: be very clearly defined for him because Sean Payn's capable 302 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: of doing that. You know, when you mix in bigger 303 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: personnel groupings, you know, extra offensive lineman, extra tight ends, 304 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: running backs, it simplifies what a defense can really do. 305 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: And especially if you run the football, and even if 306 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: you're not overly running the football effectively, everything you base 307 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: in the past game off of that, it still has 308 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: to be respected. And so that's why I just feel 309 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: like when you go back and look at the last game. 310 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: The little play draws up down in the red zone 311 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: to the eligible tackle who ends up you know, becoming 312 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: an excuse me, a tight end in that position. But 313 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: he's a tackle, you know, that little play, that design 314 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: it was, it. 315 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 6: Was a thing of art. 316 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: It's beautiful and like, defenses aren't prepare for that stuff 317 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: because you break that out maybe once a year. So 318 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: there will be some wrinkles, there will be some things 319 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: that New England hasn't seen. 320 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 6: They have to adjust to. 321 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: And it's why I think when you're talking about a 322 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: Sean Payton coach team, there's no doubt they've got a 323 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: puncher's chance. 324 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 6: That and the fact that play at home. 325 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: Like I look at that is if this thing was 326 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: in New England, it's a rep tough place to play 327 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: defense to New England's you know already. But the fact 328 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: that it's in Denver. The twelfth Man, you know, I 329 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: realized we give all that credit to Seattle. Denver's is 330 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: up there too, I'm telling you how. And it's gonna 331 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: play a factor. They outside play as a factor and 332 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: all that there. So I'm excited for these games. I 333 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: know people some people looking at it's like, hey, it's 334 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: not what we expected, like a ho hum, but like 335 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: awesome storylines. I think for a lot of these teams. 336 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: For Matt Stafford, if anyone doesn't think he's a Hall 337 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: of Famer, he gets to another Super Bowl wins one, 338 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: he's like, there's no doubt, and it puts them in 339 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: rarefied air. If he wins too, you know, people are 340 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: gonna forget about the whole photographer stage, you know, how 341 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: she fell and all that stuff, like, forget about. 342 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: All that store. Yeah, I mean, and you know now 343 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 2: gon't forget about it. They're going to bring it back up. 344 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 7: They're gonna be like, I wonder will somebody else take 345 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 7: a dip? 346 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 5: I mean, it's Saturday, went the chip, especially in an 347 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 5: MVP season. And also, look, if the Rams can get 348 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 5: this done more, if the Rams can get this done 349 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 5: and they do have a Super Bowl parade, maybe one 350 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 5: of the politicians won't show up in Saint Louis. 351 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: Rams again, that might. 352 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 7: Be photographers in the sky. 353 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: I can't fall from twice as high. 354 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 5: So let me ask you when you mentioned the crowd 355 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 5: noise in Denver, Sean Payton was making this point before 356 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 5: they played last week and I hadn't heard a coach 357 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 5: sort of detail the advantage that the crowd noise gives you. 358 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 5: And when you can have an advantage, take a listen. 359 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 9: For years, we were conditioned to raise the noise level 360 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 9: when they broke the huddle. The noise level needs to 361 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 9: be loudest when they enter the huddle. And then can 362 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 9: you do that? Hey, can we do that collectively for 363 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 9: one hundred and twenty No, I don't need I just 364 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 9: needed for half the snaps in the game, right, So 365 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 9: let's say sixty five. 366 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: Snaps of ten seconds. That can that's a huge advantage. 367 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 5: So very strategic approach on how the crowds can get loud. 368 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, and the snaps. 369 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: He's talking about a third down red zone, you know 370 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: you can you can say like after a big momentum 371 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: change something like that. 372 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 6: You know that's what he's talking about. But he's not wrong. 373 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean, when you're out there communicating in the huddle, 374 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: that's when all the information is being dealt out there. 375 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: If you can impact that make it hard for them 376 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: to hear. Guys are second guessing, they'll have a hard 377 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: time communicating across the line. I mean, it'll be loud 378 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: enough when they try to go on a silent count, 379 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: I would assume, and that plays its own advantage. But yeah, 380 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: anytime you can cut out the communication, it's a huge win. 381 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: Knowing Josh McDaniels like, I would not be shocked at all. 382 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes that's why you go no huddle. A 383 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: lot of people think it's it's it's only used in 384 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: two minutes that you but some of it's because the 385 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: crowd noise is so loud. Why fight a battle that 386 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: you can't win, so you go no huddle. You work 387 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: things based off of signals and then everyone's on the 388 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: same page. And honestly, when that's the case, did you 389 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: hear what Sean Page just said, it throws that game 390 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: plan for the fan base right out the window because 391 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: if they're not gonna be able to if you don't 392 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: ever go back and huddle and you constantly stay up 393 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: with the ball, they're not going to have just one continuous. 394 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 6: Loud and cheer the entire time. 395 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: So that's kind of some of the behind the scenes 396 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: like strategy that goes into sometimes when you just run 397 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: a no huddle operation, because you're saying, like, I don't 398 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: want to want the fans that never have a chance 399 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: to get into this game. 400 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 5: So I've been meaning ash year, very cool, big, just 401 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 5: super quick. 402 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 7: Think about it. Two of the loudest stadiums these games 403 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 7: are being played in, Like what Kansas City is one 404 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 7: of them that's in that list. But in terms of 405 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 7: like the loudest stadiums, you're talking about two of the 406 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 7: loudest in Denver and Yeadle's that could play a tremendous factors. 407 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 7: That's that'd be pretty cool low games. Yeah, we'll go ahead, Jones. 408 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 5: Well, I was just gonna ask you have you ever 409 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 5: wiped with a dry piece of toilet paper? 410 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 6: And wonderful? 411 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 5: Is this as good as it gets? 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Obviously, we've got a couple of big 442 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 5: games coming up this weekend, but what if you order 443 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 5: the pizza hut before the QB shouts the first hut 444 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 5: And if you're hungry, the big New Yorkers got those 445 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 5: giant foldable slices, and right now it's just ten bucks, 446 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 5: the biggest pizza for the biggest games. Only Pizza Hyde. 447 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 5: So the Miami Dolphins introduced Jeff Haffley and John Eric Sullivan. 448 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 5: Not a serial killer, just has use three names. They 449 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 5: introduced them yesterday in South Beach to take over the 450 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 5: direction of the organization. And of course they were asked 451 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 5: right from the jump what the plan is at quarterback 452 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 5: with Tua Tagobayiloa, And it sounded like this. 453 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 6: I have a lot of respect for Tua. He's a 454 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 6: good football player. 455 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 10: He's accomplished a lot in this league. I think, whether 456 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 10: it's whether it's two or anybody else, it's unfair and 457 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 10: irresponsible for me to sit up here and talk about 458 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 10: anything specific before I've talked to the player himself. Quarterback 459 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 10: is the most important position in professional sports, you know. 460 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 10: I also think it's the most dependent. These guys heard 461 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 10: me say this in the interview process. We will evaluate 462 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 10: that position like we evaluate every other position, and we 463 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 10: will do what is best for this football team with 464 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 10: two or anybody else to sit up here today and 465 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 10: tell you that I have a great understanding of what 466 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 10: we're gonna do or which way we're going to go. 467 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 10: That would be a lie because there's just too much 468 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 10: work to do. There's too many conversations to be had 469 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 10: at this point. A lot of respect for Tua what 470 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 10: he's accomplished in this league. I thought Quinn did a 471 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 10: great job at the end of the season. We have 472 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 10: to figure that out. We will, but today's not the 473 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 10: day I can give you that answer. 474 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 5: John Eric Sullivan, new GM of the Dolphins, talking about 475 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 5: these situations. 476 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 6: I mean, translation, go ahead, what's the translation? 477 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: Go ahead, go ahead, get the translation. 478 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 6: Well here's the no no, no, no, no no. 479 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: I actually I'm not going to do a coach talk 480 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 1: or GM speak in this case. I actually like what 481 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: he has to say, because what a lot of these 482 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: guys do when they get up there is they say 483 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: things that they have to walk back or they lie about. 484 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 6: I don't think anything he said there was anything that 485 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 6: wasn't true. So like I will, I will say this 486 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 6: like for a starting press conference. 487 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: I'm oways to you gonna have to walk back? What is 488 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: he gonna happen to walk back. 489 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: Well, he didn't say anything he has to walk back, 490 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: so that actually works out. Well, he's not a first 491 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: press conference lying. 492 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: What would he have to potentially walk back? 493 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: Uh, saying that you know, he we love to it 494 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be here next year. He's our started, 495 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, like saying any of those definitive things that 496 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: some general managers say because they think that's gonna help 497 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: the trade value, like that, Oh, if the team inquires 498 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: their calls about it, it's gonna make the price for 499 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: that trade go up. There's guys who have that thought 500 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: of that belief, and it sounds like he's you know, 501 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: very well thought out in regards to any conversations he's gonna. 502 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 6: You know, have with the media. 503 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: He's gonna have the player first, and that's a good 504 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: way to start off because it's not just about the quarterback. 505 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 6: This is a roster Scott probably a number of players. 506 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: He's gonna have some tough conversations with their conversations where 507 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, he might be saying, you know, hey, we'd 508 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: like to you know, we don't think you're gonna fit 509 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: in here. We'd like to work for you to find 510 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: somewhere else to go, or work with your agent. You 511 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: know there there's there's different ways of handling it. That's 512 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: all I'm saying. 513 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 7: He's not into Tua, and if he can, if he 514 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 7: can navigate this the least painful way of moving on, 515 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 7: he's going to move on if he can do it, 516 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,239 Speaker 7: if he can pull it off, he's going to move on. 517 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: That's the translation. 518 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 5: So, according to ESPN, the Dolphins would take a ninety 519 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 5: nine million dollar dead cap hit if they released Tua 520 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 5: before June first. The number drops is sixty seven point 521 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 5: four million if it's done after June first, with an 522 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 5: additional thirty one point eight million dollar dead cap hit 523 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty seven. 524 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 7: What do you think the conversation I think the better 525 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 7: question is what do you think that conversation that he's 526 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 7: saying he needs to have with Tua is going to sound? 527 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: Like? Like, if you're the DMA, what would you say 528 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: to him. 529 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: I would would imagine saying like, Hey, you're gonna be 530 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: our guy this year, but there's gonna be a competition 531 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: and I'm going to bring in someone else to come in, 532 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: and you guys are gonna battle for the job. This 533 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: is a new coach, it's a new general manager, it's 534 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: a new era here. Like everyone's got to kind of 535 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: earn their job and prove it, right, Like, I think 536 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: that's a fair thing to say. And look, I've been 537 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: through it before and it's usually what you hear from 538 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: guys in this situation because they have no ties to you, 539 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: So you have to earn that equity with them and 540 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: you have to build that with them. And that's that's fine, 541 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: that's fair. But the truth is they want to have 542 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: their own guy at some point. So whoever they bring in, 543 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: because that's one of their first decisions, they're gonna have 544 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: a leg up. And so if you're too a you 545 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: have to, you know, not leave any doubt and be 546 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: that much better than who you're competing with if you 547 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: want that first first crack at it. 548 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 5: You know, Malik will Malik Willis is sitting there in 549 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 5: Green Bay with some familiarity with those guys. 550 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 7: I feel like if you don't, if you don't definitively 551 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 7: send a message to your team now and bringing in 552 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 7: a new GM eventually a new head coach, I believe, 553 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 7: you run the risk of old rot and it can spread. 554 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 7: You know that rock can spread like if you if 555 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 7: you have a bad apple. And I'm not saying too 556 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 7: is a bad apple. I'm just saying it's it's not. 557 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 7: I don't think it's the most advantageous situation to have 558 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 7: to as your starter. 559 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't see that moving forward. 560 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 7: So now you have this new start, you're you got 561 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 7: to reboot. And unless you're bringing in a veteran coach 562 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 7: that will be able to navigate and handle and understand 563 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 7: the dynamics of a locker room and how to get 564 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 7: the most out of your players and and and manage 565 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 7: the personalities and keep them together. 566 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: I would give that head coach a fresh start. 567 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 7: I really would, because I don't believe TUA has been 568 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 7: the type of play at this point where I would 569 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 7: put the pressure on a new head coach and say, 570 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 7: like in you know, Baltimore or in Buffalo, yeah, you 571 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 7: need to make it work with this guy, like you 572 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 7: need to figure it out. I don't think that that's 573 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 7: the situation here. And if they if they're going into 574 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 7: it thinking that just based upon his contract, then you're 575 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 7: already setting this new head coach up. In fact him 576 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 7: as a GM, you're already setting yourselves up for what 577 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 7: could be a very very rough and bumpy start to 578 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 7: your tenure there. 579 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, and that could be the case. But you know, 580 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 6: any any losing is going to do. 581 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: That, regardless regards to your quarterback, is, regardless to anything 582 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: else is So I think what's interesting is Jonas you 583 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: bring up Milik Willis, he'll be a free agent. The 584 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: problem for the Dolphins is they're they're stuck in a 585 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: situation where if they do sign them. We just talked 586 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: about the ramifications if they were to release to a 587 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: they you know, they're in a tough spot if they 588 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: sign him to whatever deal start a new league year, 589 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: because now everyone knows you gotta get rid of him, 590 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: So you're not getting anything back in a trade. You're 591 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: gonna have a huge dead cap hit, regardless of if 592 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: it's a post June one designation. 593 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 6: So how they go about playing this chess. 594 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of significant because most likely the way Milik 595 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: Willis has played, and because of a weak quarterback draft class, 596 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: he's going to be one of the guys that I 597 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: think people watch Sam Darnold and if the Seattle Seahawks 598 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: win and if they move on to win a Super Bowl, 599 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: he's going to be one of those quarterbacks who was 600 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: talked of highly early on. It did work out in Tennessee, 601 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: and now after some season they're like, wait a second, 602 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: maybe he's that next guy who we could bring in 603 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: and play some really good football for us. It could 604 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: be our franchise guy. So it only drives up the 605 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: value for a guy like Malik Willis, who's got yes, 606 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: familiarity with Halfley, with especially as a backup when you're 607 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: going against the defense all the time. But also you 608 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: know now general manager, so there's some familiarity there. 609 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 6: But how they go about handling it to me, I 610 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 6: think is the more difficult part. 611 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: Like I don't think it's as easy as you think 612 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: just to hey, let's sign up as a free agent. 613 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: Now your trade value is gone. You're taking on a 614 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: huge dead cap hit. Maybe Steven Ross is okay with that. 615 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: But I don't know how easy that is to orchestrate 616 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: here in the next let's say two months or a 617 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: little less, because once the start of the new league 618 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: year hits, Malik Wills is a hot commodity in my opinion, 619 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean. 620 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 7: It certainly would be. It certainly would be a message 621 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 7: sent if they said we're going to like let to 622 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 7: a go. We get like, oh wow, y'all going to 623 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 7: eat that, like we're letting him go and we're starting anew. 624 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 7: That would be a tremendously loud statement coming into this 625 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 7: if I'm the GM and if I'm the new head 626 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 7: coach as an owner, to say, listen, I'd support you 627 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 7: this much. If you don't feel like two is the 628 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 7: guy and we need to go in a different direction, 629 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 7: I support you that much. I'm going to give you 630 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 7: a clean slate to get out of the gates. That 631 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 7: would be a tremendously loud statement by ownership. I don't 632 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 7: see how likely. I don't know how likely or probable 633 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 7: or doable it is feasible. I don't know, but I 634 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 7: think keeping Tua in the locker room, if you're trying 635 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 7: to move forward and if he indeed doesn't end up 636 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 7: being the guy that you're planning on being your franchise quarterback, 637 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 7: I almost feel like having him there is like I 638 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 7: just don't I don't think that that's the best thing 639 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 7: to do. 640 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 5: I two is going to be back next year, Like 641 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 5: that would be my guess, if I had to make 642 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 5: a guess right now. Two is going to be back 643 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 5: next year, and that's the one that would make the 644 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 5: most sense. Financial reasons, commitment reasons. And I know that 645 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 5: there's the whole locker room dynamic, but how much of 646 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 5: that was because you know, Mike McDaniel ran to louse ship, 647 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 5: which was a lot of the reports that came out 648 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 5: of there. And you know, who knows what happens with 649 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 5: Tyreek Hill whether or not he's back, you know, and 650 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 5: and to what extent I just think, Look, it's gonna 651 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 5: cost you a fortune to move on from the guy. 652 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 5: Create competition, whether you want to bring in somebody else, 653 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 5: whether you want to have it be Quinn viewers, Uh, 654 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 5: you know, take a shot at somebody in the draft 655 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 5: later on, and you know, do something like that. Ideally 656 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 5: for the Dolphins to his back next year, plays at 657 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 5: a higher level. And all of this point, well, look, 658 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 5: I mean, what are you going to do, like, you know, 659 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 5: take a sixty to a ninety million dollars dead cap 660 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 5: hit by by cutting him just because you felt like 661 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 5: he was a jerk to a teammate in the locker room, 662 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 5: Like like, what of the I. 663 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 2: Was a jerk to the in the locker room. It's 664 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: just that it's. 665 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 7: It's I think that project has has expired. He's just 666 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 7: not there's the injury concerns that should be number one 667 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 7: on anyone list that that he's one hit away from 668 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 7: not being available, but then there's two. It just that 669 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 7: the new style of play to not get hit, to 670 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 7: not play tua like football, where you hold it a 671 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 7: little longer, you run, you get up out of there, 672 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 7: whatever you create time. It just it didn't look like 673 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 7: a tua that that could get it done this season. 674 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 7: And if I'm looking at it that way, what are 675 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 7: you wasting time for? You made the investment. Sometimes you 676 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 7: make mistakes, you make bad investments. I mean you don't 677 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 7: just keep it just because it was a bad investment. 678 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: I mean sometimes you got to cut bait. It's all right. 679 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: I just think it's it's tough to swallow a ninety 680 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: nine million dollar dead capot right Like it's it's easy 681 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: for us to say that it's not our money, you know, 682 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: it's it becomes a lot harder to deal with that, 683 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: where if you just waited there, you get to a 684 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: much more feasible, a much easier number to to swallow. 685 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: Whether that's a post human designation in twenty twenty seven 686 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: or or even before that. 687 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 7: So I'm with the should have came out the GM 688 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 7: should have came out and said we got to go 689 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 7: with Tool because it's too expensive to get rid of them, 690 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 7: and you guys have to be prepared for us to possibly, 691 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 7: you know, not be good. 692 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 2: But we just. 693 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: Say something that like is obviously putting their team now 694 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean in a really tough spot, like they've 695 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: got to navigate what the heck is going to happen 696 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: if they I mean, I don't know how you can 697 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: think that, like you could keep Kean Coleman on the 698 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: roster when you're you know, you basically had your owner 699 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: talk about him like he's you know, I just you know, 700 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: shot me. 701 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 7: That hugs man, I get it. I'm just saying, hey, 702 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 7: you got a job and you're getting paid. I don't 703 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 7: care if the owner likes me or not. I'm gonna 704 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 7: play my way into what I need to play my 705 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 7: way into. I'm not going base it off for him. 706 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 7: You don't want me, Okay, let me prove to you 707 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 7: why they got me. Let me prove to you why 708 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 7: I'm here. 709 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: Well, isn't that why to Oka? Couldn't you just say 710 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: the same thing. I mean, you're basically making a case 711 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 1: for Twist to guess you're improved. 712 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: Definitely could. 713 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, no, two, you can get tools to perform 714 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 5: at the highest level on every job without compromise. When 715 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 5: you shot Makita at the home depot when the job calls, 716 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 5: are the best calling Makda Bilt to be the best 717 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 5: available at the home depot. How pros get more done up? Next, 718 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 5: we'll get into some details. 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That'll be yours right here 730 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 5: on FSR. 731 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 6: Before we get to. 732 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 5: This, this uncomfortable conversation, we're about to have. Be sure 733 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 5: to check out our brand new YouTube channel for the show. 734 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 5: Just search two pros FSR and YouTube begin. That's two 735 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 5: pros FSR. Be sure to the subscribe button. Don't stop there. 736 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 5: The thumbs up icon coming away. Let us know who 737 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 5: on the show you agree with, who you think is 738 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 5: completely wrong. But check out our new channel on YouTube begin. 739 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 5: Just search two pros FSR and subscribe. So the Indianapolis 740 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 5: Colts have acknowledged the existence of an FBI investigation into 741 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 5: the death of former owner Jim Ersay, some potential involvement 742 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 5: of a California doctor who reportedly prescribed him pain pills 743 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 5: and ketamine, so that is being looked into. According to 744 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 5: a story in The Washington Post, which first reported the 745 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 5: news of the FBI probe, the FBI is seeking records 746 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 5: and information about Ursay's death, substance use, and relationship with 747 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 5: the doctor. The Post cited a grand jury subpoena issued 748 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 5: earlier this month in Los Angeles and stated that people 749 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 5: close to Ersay had been contacted. So an ugly turn 750 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 5: on a sad story that we talked about earlier, and 751 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 5: I feel like we've seen this before with other celebrities 752 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 5: in the news specifically, and uh and here we are. 753 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 5: So thoughts from you guys on the situation. 754 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: I don't know on that one. Man, Come on, var 755 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 2: what's me? 756 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 7: Brady always goes first, Come on, Let's hear what you 757 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 7: has to say a little bit. This is the one 758 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 7: time I don't want to go first. 759 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 5: Let's switch it up a little bit. 760 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, you go first, Jonas, In fact, you go first. 761 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 7: Let's hear what you have to say. 762 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 5: About It's just look, man, we know about Jim Mersey's past, 763 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 5: We know about the issues that he had dealt with 764 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 5: in the past, and you know, to see him because 765 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 5: I think everybody recognized that he was in rough shape 766 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 5: towards the end, that he was sick and dealing with things. 767 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 5: And this is, you know, like, this is the problem 768 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 5: just generally speaking to where people don't feel good, they 769 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 5: want to feel better, you end up overdoing it and 770 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 5: it's an unfortunate result. And the fact that they're even 771 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 5: looking into it leads me to believe that, you know, 772 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 5: maybe there was some potential bad advice that was handed out. 773 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 5: We saw the same thing with whether you want to say, 774 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 5: Michael Jackson, whether you want to say you know, other's 775 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 5: celebrities who had passed recently. Like it's just you start 776 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 5: going down that road and it's a dark path that 777 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 5: could lead you into some bad places. And unfortunately it 778 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 5: feels like, you know, maybe that's where we're headed with 779 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 5: this story. Yeah, go ahead, bar, go ahead, c you're up. 780 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: Bar how bad. 781 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: It's a serious subject. There's a lot of people bad 782 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: things similar to this. It's just it's it's crazy to 783 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: think that, like, you know, someone had prescribed him the 784 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: wrong you know, dosage or helped aid in this process 785 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: in anyway. Like that's the sad thing to all of it, 786 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: from all accounts, people who have who played for him, 787 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: people who knew him real kind him is a great man. 788 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: So it's it's sad that it gets to this point 789 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: where now you've got an investigation and we'll see what 790 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: comes from it, but it's probably still way too early 791 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: to really know all the details. 792 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 5: It's also it's also sad for the family. From the 793 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 5: standpoint you just want to mourn somebody you love and 794 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 5: you feel like you're going through the healing process and 795 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 5: then this gets brought back up and you realize, oh, 796 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 5: maybe it could have been avoided. Like then you've got 797 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 5: to deal with all that. 798 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 7: That's a hard one too. That's a hard pill to swallow, man. 799 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 7: I mean thoughts in prayers to the family, man, is 800 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 7: all I can say. 801 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: That's that's a hard one to swallow, you know. Yeah, 802 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Yep. 803 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 7: That's it. I'm gonna leave that one alone. Man, And 804 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 7: I'm glad we're hitting a brak.