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Speaker 1: Hey, Rod, are you ready to go balls deep in sports?

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of Ball's d Sports or

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Speaker 2: the Blackout Tips premium podcast network. I'm your host Rod,

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Speaker 2: joined us always by my co host Jerry rose Ere.

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Speaker 3: Hey listen. So you trying to go shoot some dice lab.

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Speaker 4: And of course Karen is here as well. What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Conci Billups?

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Speaker 1: How y'all doing? Be careful on the table, don't touch

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Speaker 2: And when I'm not placing my gifted hands on the

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Speaker 2: and Karen on the Black Tips Sports podcast Ball Sports.

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Speaker 4: I let you talk, now, let me talk.

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Speaker 1: This is Stephen A.

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Speaker 4: Smith.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I listen to the black guy too. I listen

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Speaker 2: to that brother Rod. I listen to that brother Justin.

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Speaker 2: I listen that sister.

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Speaker 4: Karen over there. I see you, Karen. I listen to

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Speaker 2: Every day when I want to hear some sports. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So if you're not listening to first day, make sure

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Speaker 5: Listen to black guy Boot tips, Balls dukes.

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Speaker 4: What podcasts do?

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Speaker 2: I am a young black, rich nigga that listen to

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Speaker 2: streets saying all lives matter, especially my officers, I listen

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Speaker 4: You're listening to Boss Deep Sports. Baby, it's your boy,

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Speaker 4: Boots A. Collins. And when I'm not out here funking.

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Speaker 2: It up in the streets, I am listening to this

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Speaker 4: Keep it fontab, I got game, you got game, he

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Speaker 2: And when I'm out here listening to sports podcast, I

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Speaker 4: Hey, it's your boy, ray J.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if you're listening to an indoor podcast

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Speaker 2: the Balls Deep for podcast because that's how I get down.

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Speaker 4: This is Reverend James David Manning, and I love balls

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Speaker 4: these sports.

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Speaker 5: When I'm not talking about seemen feeling lackage and the homosexuals.

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Speaker 4: In the Bible. What you're gonna do about this book?

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Speaker 4: Right here? Boy, what I'm not talking about that. I'm

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Speaker 4: listening to.

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Speaker 5: The Balls, the Sports podcast, Balls These Sports.

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Speaker 2: Friend Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to the hottest sports podcast

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Speaker 2: on the black outest premie in podcast network. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Rod joint Is always with my co host Justin with up.

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Speaker 3: J Trill, What up my Negro?

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Speaker 4: And of course Caring is here as well.

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Speaker 1: How y'all doing great?

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Speaker 4: Great, Let's get into the show.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we start the same way we always start,

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Speaker 2: and that's what y'all's comments. It was a lot of

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Speaker 2: times y'all's comments leads us down the road to where

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Speaker 2: we want to go. And we got three comments for

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Speaker 2: Balls d Sports five seventy eight, Beware of Owner. The

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Speaker 2: first one is from Mary hi Rod Herron and justin

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Speaker 2: Joe's ear. Holy hell, what a mess? Also, who didn't

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Speaker 2: see this coming? I'm old and I remember Pete Rose

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Speaker 2: receiving lifetime banishment from baseball. And then these last few

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Speaker 2: years gambling have seen the elevated legitimacy and sports culture

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Speaker 2: in these gambling sites are sponsoring ESPN and other sports

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Speaker 2: podcasts add to that their accessibility. Before you had to

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Speaker 2: go someplace or call someone and have a connection, it

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Speaker 2: was not so easy to place a bet. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: also if you didn't have the money for the bet,

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Speaker 2: somebody might break your fucking legs. So you were like, hey,

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Speaker 2: maybe I don't Maybe I don't bet so much. My

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Speaker 1: Like, who is that act that got a fucking black eye?

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Speaker 1: Now you're like, oh, you owe somebody some money, nigga?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jay Leno, Yes, my husband took me to someplace

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Speaker 2: and only the degenerates were there. But now everyone has

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Speaker 2: Can they fix this? It depends on what you mean

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Speaker 2: by fix, I would say, because okay, so let me

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Speaker 2: We already know there was an investigation in it. Terry

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Speaker 2: for lack of a better term, he took himself out

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Speaker 2: what happens. Well, the NBA investigated and cleared him, and

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Speaker 2: so it was like, I guess he didn't do it. Now,

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Speaker 2: I had forgotten this part of it. But apparently after

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Speaker 2: is that the league set him down like they was like, ah,

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Speaker 2: right And I think in a world where you're in

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Speaker 1: And because you're in bed with them, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because the whole illusion of this, you're betting on

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Speaker 2: So apparently the NBA cleared him, but the FBI never did.

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Speaker 1: No, they did not, and so.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I think the NBA and all these leagues, I've been

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Speaker 4: I've never believed this.

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Speaker 2: By the way, even back when people owe the NFL

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Speaker 2: Often motherfucking murderers and killers and rapists and shit be

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Speaker 2: tells you, don't worry. We looked into it, and we

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Speaker 2: to Chauncey Billups. They vetted Chauncey Billups too, and we

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Speaker 4: Nobody want to talk about it. I think you're trying

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Speaker 4: He was accused of sexual assault.

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Speaker 2: The Blazers when they hired him as a coach was like,

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: They basically just went and found out, like is this

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Speaker 2: Don't worry, We're gonna tell everybody. We looked into it,

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Speaker 1: But like this, they do great in any economy. Apparently

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Speaker 2: Left LaCosta Noster. I mean, they ain't had no murders

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Speaker 1: They still got the five.

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Speaker 1: Apparently it's five. It's been five. It's gonna stay five bit.

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Speaker 4: No expansion or reduction, no.

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Speaker 2: They don't got no more fucking expansion franchise. It's not

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Speaker 4: One hundred years.

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Speaker 1: No, he is not expanding.

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Speaker 4: So uh so that's.

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Speaker 2: Chauncey Billups as well. But all right, so Terry rosere

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Speaker 2: let me like I said, let me get back. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I'm all over the place. Terry rosere gets busted. The

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Speaker 2: are going as far as saying he literally got money

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Speaker 2: I understand now why the NBA couldn't do shit.

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Speaker 4: They don't have an apparatus to know.

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Speaker 2: If he got some money. Right stand, I'm gonna call

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Speaker 4: The three Peas. Okay, called the three Peas.

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Speaker 2: There's three things with this gambling that are different but connected,

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Speaker 2: and in each case it makes it hard to prove.

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Speaker 2: It's plausible deniability built into it. So the first one

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Speaker 2: is these motherfucking prop bets.

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Speaker 1: What's the prop bet?

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Speaker 2: If you go bet, now, you're not just betting, Oh,

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Speaker 2: the Hornets will win, the Blazers will lose. It'll be

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Speaker 2: they'll win by seven, they'll lose by four. Now you

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Speaker 2: can go, I don't think Terry Rogier will get five rebounds.

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Speaker 2: I am betting five dollars. He won't get five rebounds.

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Speaker 2: That's a prop bet.

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Speaker 1: So it then got down to more stat statistics.

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Speaker 4: I don't I mean, it's just a prop bet. I

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Speaker 2: It's just you can bet, you can bet on.

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Speaker 4: The prop.

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Speaker 6: It's like, like you said, it's not just who's gonna

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Speaker 2: Under right, And so it's tempting because if I'm a player,

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Speaker 2: I can be like, hey man, put a million dollars

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Speaker 1: And they do it on all that stuff, right, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you now today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah well.

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Speaker 2: Right, they're gonna look up and watch the file hit

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Speaker 2: the ground. So that's the props. So that's the verage,

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Speaker 2: that's the players props. That's one part of the ped

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Speaker 2: That's what Terry Rozier got busted doing. And he also

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Speaker 2: got busted doing the second one. And this involves Damon

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Speaker 2: but the and and low key. It also involves Chauncey Billups.

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Speaker 2: So now all three of them have are in the

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Speaker 2: second p which is what I call privileged information. Privileged

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Speaker 2: information is when I know some shit don't nobody else know,

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Speaker 2: and it can influence gambling. And I just put my

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Speaker 2: them some information, like you need to hurry up and

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Speaker 1: Like inside of trade trading like with Macca, Steward got.

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Speaker 2: Kind of inside the trader. But think of it, it's

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Speaker 2: because they had talked on the phone about it, He's.

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Speaker 4: Like, cool, got this info.

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Speaker 2: He immediately started texting his homies, make sure y'all bet

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Speaker 2: the other whatever. And even in the text, this is

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Speaker 2: get his too. Oh damn, you put it in text

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Speaker 2: his name, like, Damon Jones, make sure I get mine too.

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Speaker 2: He had a gambling problem, damn, which is one of

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Speaker 2: the exploits that no one really talks about. They we

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Speaker 2: always think of the fans having gambler problems. No one

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Speaker 2: thinks that players could have some gambling problems. Agreed, And

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Speaker 2: then the last p oh, and then I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 2: forgot to mention. So Terry Rozier telling his cousin, I

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Speaker 2: and then it's coming out that's plausible to no ability

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Speaker 2: because when the league is investigating you, you could be like,

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Speaker 2: I didn't think my cousin was gonna bet money. I

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Speaker 2: didn't mean for that to happen, and they'll go, fuck,

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Speaker 2: we can't prove that that that you did that because

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Speaker 2: they don't have the government apparatus to go know that

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Speaker 2: a two hundred thousand dollars delivery was made to your

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Speaker 4: They can't.

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Speaker 2: They can't threaten anyone with jail time. They can't. They

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Speaker 2: can't make someone cooperate. They can't, you know. So like

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Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff is the League is kind

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Speaker 2: of paying for the idea that oh they're a fast there,

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Speaker 2: so they know so much information about you, they know everything.

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Speaker 2: They kind of paying for that reputation because people are like, well,

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Speaker 2: how could this happen? And it's like the world, the

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Speaker 2: truth is they've been lying. No, none of these leagues

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Speaker 2: know everything. You think Aaron her Nanda's gets in the

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Speaker 2: this nigga already killed two people in Florida, while we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have them here, you're gonna kill somebody again, and

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Speaker 2: everybody's gonna know we knew, okay the third and.

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Speaker 6: Then Knight was living on reputation until he got knocked

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Speaker 6: out Bob Barb and then it's like, oh, that's right,

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Speaker 6: nobody's afraid of sugar anymore. But for a long time

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Speaker 6: it was the reputation of, oh, you don't want problems

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Speaker 6: with defferent records.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And.

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Speaker 2: NFL gets off on the same thing. NCAA gets off

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Speaker 2: on the same thing. That's why they punish you so hard,

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Speaker 2: because they don't want you to look past this and go,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, this shit be happening under y'all watching.

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Speaker 4: Y'all really don't be knowing nothing.

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Speaker 2: That's why y'all come down so hard on people, because

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Speaker 2: it's like, well, we have to put the fear of

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Speaker 1: Okay, And how does Chauncey tie up into this second one?

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Speaker 2: That's what I was going into. Chauncey is a coach.

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Speaker 2: He knows my team is tanking. He knows which guys

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Speaker 2: he's not gonna play so that the team will lose

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Speaker 2: he's given.

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Speaker 4: That information to people.

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Speaker 2: So he caught up in two of the three. That's

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Speaker 2: I haven't got to the third one yet.

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Speaker 3: But he can control outcomes of games.

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Speaker 2: To do yeah, rivileged information too, Like he's telling people

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Speaker 4: I won't be playing our center, you know what I.

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Speaker 2: Mean until they called the starting lineup, right, or you

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Speaker 2: not running to play for them or pull them out

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Speaker 2: when they like, oh he just hit four in a row.

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Speaker 6: He coming out, he needed the breath he come and

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Speaker 6: you don't got to explain to nobody why you pulled

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Speaker 4: M h nen.

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Speaker 2: We get to the third one. You got props, player props,

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Speaker 2: privileged information, and poker. Now this one I don't really

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Speaker 2: got nothing to do with the sports sports really, but

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Speaker 2: the Five Families, the Mafia was having high stakes poker

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Speaker 2: games at these like private like estates, so like private

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Speaker 4: So this was not in Vegas where there's gruves and regulation.

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Speaker 2: And the thing that they're accused of doing is rigging

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Speaker 2: the games. And we're talking like James Bond level like

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Speaker 2: ray tables.

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Speaker 1: Ain't I ain't, No, I ain't know they had them class.

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Speaker 2: Where you puts the deck, they can tell which cards

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Speaker 2: basically the allegation is Chauncey. They were using Chauncey's good

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Speaker 2: reputational name as a way to get these other players

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Speaker 2: and big, big money people into the game. Then they

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Speaker 2: would slowly rob them through playing poker. And I guess

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Speaker 2: he gets a cut his reputation.

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Speaker 3: It's the reputation of being a gambler, a.

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Speaker 1: Reputation of being an NBA coach.

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Speaker 2: I think it's his reputation, complete circle.

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Speaker 1: I don't think, Okay, everything encompassing of him.

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Speaker 6: Yes, like you add that, like we know he gambled,

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Speaker 6: we know Chauncey bed these games. I'm gonna show up

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Speaker 6: because Chauncey are known gambler in these circles.

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Speaker 4: Like one of those.

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Speaker 6: So he's a coach, he's a reputation. He got things

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Speaker 6: to lose, like I got things to lose. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 6: show up at that game.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: You know, I like being right, and you know I'm

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Speaker 2: very smug, so I have to I have to take

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Speaker 2: a sip a nice.

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Speaker 1: Not you yeah, r. I just said this that he

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Speaker 1: was like, something's gonna happen when the Least started tying

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Speaker 2: Well, this that part I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 2: people were on. That's not the part I want. I

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Speaker 2: want to take my smug mugs sip on Okay, but

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Speaker 2: and it's gonna seem like I'm taking a shot and

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: But it is.

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Speaker 2: This is what I meant when I said the Kawhi

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Speaker 2: Leonard story wasn't I couldn't tell how big a deal

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Speaker 2: it was. Right, This is exactly what the fuck I

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Speaker 2: U page on Twitter, that ship is that Kawhi Leonard

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Speaker 2: story was on there like all the time. I just

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Speaker 2: that's weird. It's not it's on my newspaper.

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Speaker 4: They're not talking about it. No, no, yes, yeah't that much.

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Speaker 4: They're not. The CNN is not covering it, Like I mean,

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Speaker 4: is it a big deal?

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Speaker 2: Or am I just in a hyper focused circle where

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Speaker 2: it's a big deal to me and my friends. But

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Speaker 2: other people don't care about it in the way that

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Speaker 4: That's fine. That's what happens to you, boy when you

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Speaker 2: But this ship right here, this ship right here, nigga,

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Speaker 2: it's on NBC, it's on seeing ABC, Fox News, your

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Speaker 2: It broke into the middle of the news, meaning like, uh,

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Speaker 2: we gonna stop talking first take to go to cash.

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Speaker 4: But tell that's what I meant when I was like, I.

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Speaker 2: That's to me a big story, Like when you like, man,

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Speaker 2: people really won't think about this cast salary cap circumvention

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Speaker 2: and Steve Baumer, I'm like, are they.

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Speaker 4: Thought, Like, I don't know if they are. This ship

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, this is huge. This is a problem for

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Speaker 2: the league. This is some what is out himself a

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Speaker 2: gonna do ship, Like like I don't that that other ship.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't think Adam Silver really has to

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Speaker 4: If he just if the.

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Speaker 2: Investigation comes back and goes yeah, we couldn't really find anything. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I guess we're moving on. Even if people go, I

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Speaker 2: You can't do that with us. He cannot come back.

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Speaker 2: They already did. Or we can't find anything on Terry

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Speaker 2: Rose there, nigga, they fin to bring the hammer of

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Speaker 2: God on this man. He's already been They already said

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Speaker 2: they are going to pay him the rest of his salary.

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Speaker 2: And he still can't play basketball. They already said that.

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Speaker 3: None of them, none of them can touch basketball again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well.

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Speaker 2: Right, Phillips Billups is fighting it, but he can't coach

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Speaker 2: while he's fighting it. Like like, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: long these trials are gonna take. And I hear you justin,

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Speaker 2: but just hear me out for a second.

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Speaker 4: Even if not guilty, Yeah, I disagree.

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Speaker 2: I think if they're not guilty, it'll be because you

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Speaker 2: have to think future, right, Let's let's let's think.

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Speaker 4: Let's think it through.

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Speaker 2: Let's not get caught up in the moment when we're

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Speaker 2: gonna find out they're not guilty.

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Speaker 4: If they're not guilty, three years.

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Speaker 2: From now, two years from them, like Terry won't be

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00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: able to play basketball, So I know he's gone.

440
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 4: He too old to be fucking around.

441
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 2: If they come back at thirty four thirty five, like

442
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: he's it's over for him.

443
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 4: I'm sorry to that man.

444
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 2: Whether he's innocent or guilty don't matter. But as a coach,

445
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,959
Speaker 2: you technically could get found not guilty and make a

446
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: comeback story. I'm just saying, like, you still gonna miss

447
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: a minute to prove your innocence. You won't be the

448
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: Blazer's coach who's waiting three years for you to be

449
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,719
Speaker 2: innocent so they can be like, all right, you can

450
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 2: coach the team again. It's over for him as a

451
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: coach here, even if he's exonerated, because there's some extenuating circumstances.

452
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure he can play to the crowd. And this

453
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,959
Speaker 2: is trump tagging in the NBA. This is about a

454
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 2: black man. He can spend a story to get him

455
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 2: back in the league. I just don't know three years

456
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: from now it's even gonna be worth it, you know

457
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: what I mean.

458
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 6: I don't know who's gonna give him that chance to

459
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 6: be like, yeah, I'll touch you. Because even when he

460
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 6: comes home, bro, you hot right now? Can you trust anything?

461
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 6: Even if he found not o J was found not guilty,

462
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 6: You're still not fucking with to a certain degree. And

463
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 6: that's all I'm saying with Chauncey. He may be found

464
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,719
Speaker 6: not guilty, but who's gonna take the risk of being like,

465
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 6: I'll have him as an assistant or team.

466
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 4: You're not wrong.

467
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: I just always like to allow for the possibility because

468
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 2: I think a lot of times we say shit definitively

469
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: and then like the shit come to pass and be like, oh,

470
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: I guess everybody really didn't give a fuck about that,

471
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: because I would have honestly, when he was up for

472
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: the job and they brought up the rape case, I

473
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: was like, he might not even get the coaching job,

474
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 2: and apparently nobody gave a fuck, you know what I mean.

475
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 2: It was wise Malika Andrews or anyone going to bring

476
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: this up against a black man. So like, I've seen

477
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: people weaponize things where I thought they were wrong and

478
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 2: prosper on the other side, and so I'm very I'm

479
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,719
Speaker 2: less inclined to be definitive, but I actually absolutely hear

480
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: what you're saying, and I and I don't like that

481
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: would not surprise me at all if he somehow beat

482
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 2: this case.

483
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 4: But the stink is too much.

484
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 2: But I guess what I'm saying is I'm looking at

485
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 2: a timetable of like what if it's ten years from

486
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 2: now and he's coaching college basketball.

487
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 4: I don't it wouldn't be crazy.

488
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: People wouldn't have the same.

489
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 2: Time right, Like, it wouldn't be Yeah, it wouldn't be

490
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: nothing a yeah, especially with Trump like nothing to me.

491
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: I'm done for the most part with absolute because it's

492
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: like I'll be watching people do unforgivable shit on the

493
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: dail and they just out here winning, just showing up

494
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: the next day like what, Yeah, we're killing people on

495
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: boats that we don't got no more fucking evidence against

496
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 2: and fuck y'all doing like I'll see y'all tomorrow. We're

497
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: gonna kill some of them, see but peace. So uh anyway,

498
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: that's the three p's right. You got your prop bets,

499
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: you got your privileged information, and you got your poker.

500
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: I think the penalties are gonna be interesting because people

501
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: talking about sports penalties and I'm like, what about this jail?

502
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: What about this jail? Yeah, because that's not trying to

503
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: be funny. People act like games and suspensions equal jail time, bitch.

504
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 1: They don't and they're not the same things.

505
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, now let's get into some of the philosophical stuff.

506
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 6: All right though too case Mitchell said, I that's my friend.

507
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 6: I need Eviden're.

508
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: Gonna have a lot of compassion for that man.

509
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: So, dude, you're right. There may be some people I

510
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: just don't Kevin Love don't own no teams Kevin Love.

511
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Kevin Love posted a joke where Chauncey Billos

512
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: was holding Terry Roseer like the meme of the dude

513
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 2: at the concert that got caught cheated at the Coldplay.

514
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 4: Concert, and.

515
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: Dame Lillard left a comment and said weak ass ship,

516
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 2: and Kevin Love took it down and put up an

517
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: apology and it was like, these are my former teammates.

518
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: This is actually a very serious thing.

519
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking about them and what their family is

520
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: going through and this ship like that that made me

521
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: be like, these motherfuckers can come back, like I don't like.

522
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the only reason I say Rosier the only.

523
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 6: Dame also was like what he was getting ready to

524
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 6: initially be the head coach and was.

525
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, but he came back. He's in Portland right now, right,

526
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: so so it's like you. Yeah, but I'm saying it's

527
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: actually now now it's not. Yeah, exactly, It's funny, but

528
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: it's not, it's not. He must have made peace with

529
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: it at some point over the last year over there

530
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: looking at Yan and being like, man, I wish I

531
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 2: was back home with my kids. So he made peace

532
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: with the bill upson family and definitely niggas listening to

533
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: mister Morale every day, ready to go back and be.

534
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: A family man.

535
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: But I think it's important to note though, the only

536
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: reason I'm saying about Terror's here is just I don't

537
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: think a player his age.

538
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, yeah, but like if.

539
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: They somehow find out like the FBI has overplayed his

540
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: hand cash but tells the stunt queen and this case

541
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: is not as tight as they say it is, because

542
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: they were saying it in the press briefing, like one

543
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: of the teams was like the it was the Toronto.

544
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: It was the wrong team name.

545
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm like they missed a basketball with a

546
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: hockey team.

547
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: I think they said Toronto Rangers, yes, or some bullshit

548
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: like that, where you're like, them are two different sports.

549
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: So it's not like they inspired.

550
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like they inspire a lot of confidence

551
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: in the cash Fortael Fbi, Right, I'm not like man,

552
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: when cash Hotel got you, he got you.

553
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 4: You know.

554
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: So maybe we are living in a world where six months,

555
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: a year, two years from now, we're like, oh, actually

556
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: that turned out to not be a big deal. None

557
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: of those guys are going to prison, you know, whatever

558
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: the information was wrong. If that's possible, I'm not saying

559
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: that's possible. I'm not saying that's gonna happen. But if

560
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: that's possible, yes, we live in a world where these

561
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: dudes might come back. I just don't think undersized Terry Roger,

562
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: who plays as bad as he's been playing already, I

563
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: don't think that. I don't think anyone's doing it for Yeah,

564
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: he's thirty one. I don't think anyone's doing it for him.

565
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: And also I think a big part of the problem.

566
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: With Terry Rozier is he uh has been playing like shit.

567
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 2: Like if this, if this was right, if this was

568
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: And that's why I said, like, people keep going like

569
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: you know, and it's people are very.

570
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: Very messy, and they.

571
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: Hope for more bigger stuff because they can't help themselves.

572
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: They just keep wanting to escalate everything, and so they

573
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: keep being like, Oh, it's gonna get bigger, It's gonna

574
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: get bigger. I'm like, I don't know if it's gonna

575
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: get bigger or not. I do think obviously, if these

576
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: guys did it, probably the likelihood that are only three

577
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: motherfuckers in all of sports to do some shit like

578
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: this is pretty pretty low. But what you what would

579
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: really make it bigger is if it was a player

580
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: that you that was a huge deal.

581
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 4: That's what you gotta be worried about.

582
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: And as of right now, they haven't brought anybo of

583
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: those guys in, and part of me thinks they would have.

584
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: I don't think this is an FBI that holds back

585
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: what cash for tailing goes. Let's not bring in uh

586
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: LaMelo Ball because we don't have it. I think if

587
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: they had LaMelo Ball around this at all and they

588
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: thought they could get some press off of it, they

589
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: put his name out there.

590
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 4: If they thought it was Lebron, they.

591
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 3: His name been surfacing on the like the rumor or stuff.

592
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 6: But if the FBI had a real sniff of he's involved,

593
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 6: Oh yeah right, they put his face out there, just

594
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 6: like they did the Purple Walk with Lebron. They had

595
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 6: all the media people out there saying on Lebron's rescu

596
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 6: you gonna see the handcuffs. Yes, you did not turn

597
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 6: himself in in time.

598
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: It's a it's put the dope on the table.

599
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. If it was Steph Curry, they do it. Yeah.

600
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: So I think these are the biggest names they could get.

601
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: And that's why Cash Hotel was that. Now here's the

602
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: thing though, that's a little bit like, so let's go

603
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: to the other side, because that's the that was all

604
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: the good news, Like, if there's a way out this

605
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: could possibly happen, let's go.

606
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 4: To the bad news. Guys. I don't I think these

607
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 4: niggas are going to jail. This case started under Biden,

608
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 4: they did it start Underbidy. What what I think is happening?

609
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: And everyone's confusing themselves on is they think Cash, Patel

610
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: and Trump and Stephen they did this and I blame

611
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: him partially for this misinformation they think they like, oh,

612
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: they getting the NBA back before being a league with

613
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: too many outspoken black voices. Know what they're doing is

614
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: they're doing something they've always done. They're taking credit for

615
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: somebody else's work. Yes, so the FBI people that did

616
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: this work. I have no doubt did solid work. And

617
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: I think Cash for telling them boys slide up in

618
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: there to day at the press conference like we're getting them.

619
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: We did it, and we did it because you want all.

620
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 6: The credit and the and they and they probably they

621
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 6: also seem like the type of people to be like,

622
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 6: we need another headline, do it now. We still we're

623
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 6: still investigating. We still got more people were trying to

624
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 6: do it.

625
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 4: Trump said, talk about yeah, even the optics of doing it.

626
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: People, even the optics are doing it the day after

627
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: the NBA season opened. I can't put past a president

628
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: that's so concerned with optics, like, yes, I would love

629
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: to be like that's a coincidence, but I under this

630
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: administration with cash retail as a stunt queen, I can't.

631
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: I can't be like, oh no, that's just when it

632
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: happened to come down. I think they do stuff like

633
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: this on purpose. I don't think it's as uh as

634
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: nefarious as Steven A.

635
00:33:59,160 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 4: Smith painted it.

636
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: Where Like Trump is sitting in his office, he's been

637
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: mad about the NBA for years, He's finally getting revenged.

638
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: I don't think Trump has the state I don't think

639
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: he really cares. No, Like I don't think the NBA

640
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: is on his as high up on his enemy's list.

641
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 4: I think he and I don't think he's uh.

642
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: He's not surreptitious enough to to say that without spilling it.

643
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: He is the kind of person that will come out

644
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: and be like Adam Silver and the NBA, they are

645
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: on my hit list and I'm gonna get them the

646
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: same way that he just yesterday said he wants to

647
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: get Jack Smith to Merrick Garland under criminal charges.

648
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: He ain't careful.

649
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: So like Steven A wants it to be that important

650
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: because Steven they covered sports and he wants to be

651
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: like the next Trump. But I don't think that's what's

652
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: happening at all. I really think this case was going

653
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: to be brought to bear at some point and then

654
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: cash whattaels like here, I can swoop in and get

655
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: some press.

656
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: But them boys should be worried because them too.

657
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: They he didn't do two years of investigation, federal investigation

658
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: to come out on the other side of this with

659
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: nothing agreed, and it doesn't sound like they're trying to

660
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 2: get them to It's at least two years since we

661
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: known about Terry Roseer and shit right, and they not

662
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: doing that type of investigation for them to I think

663
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: with these guys as the faces of it, to not

664
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 2: get them.

665
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 4: Meaning like Mike Vick.

666
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: I remember when Mike Vick was the face of that

667
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: that other I mean the dog fighting gambler ring like

668
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: that mean he was going to jail. They weren't coming

669
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: to him to be like, can you cooperate and help

670
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: us get bigger fish.

671
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 4: They was like, nigga, you're the fish.

672
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: You hop on in this plate with this grease brother,

673
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: You're done, you.

674
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 4: Know what I mean?

675
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: So I feel like these dudes might be done because

676
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: what can they offer anything up? You know, So we'll

677
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 2: see what happens with that. I mean John Tay Porter

678
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: know you know what I'm like, it's they're not fucking

679
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: around with these bro Yeah.

680
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: And also maybe because the way Trump functioned, they was like,

681
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: we have to find something else so that people would

682
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: quote unquote Quique stop asking about these Epstein files because

683
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: this was such a huge splash, not trying to be

684
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: funny and all the cross like everybody had to talk

685
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: about it everywhere. They're gonna get back on the Epstein files.

686
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: But this was just something as a deterrent. Honestly, I

687
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: think I think that's why they did it, to start

688
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: after the wing.

689
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: They don't need.

690
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 6: That's what we talked about in the beginning. Everybody's gambling everywhere.

691
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 4: Now, yes they are, And.

692
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 6: Because of this, this impacts even people who don't fuck

693
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 6: with basketball, but they fuck with gambling. Yes, yes, they

694
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 6: stuck with the odds. They fucked with the integrity or

695
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 6: what they believe to be the integrity of sports. And

696
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 6: if I put my five dollars on here, and I

697
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 6: want my five to be valued as if it was

698
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 6: five million dollars, and.

699
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: Let me elaborate too. They arrested thirty people, so it's

700
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: chicken or egg. It's chicken or egg, right, Because I've

701
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: heard conspiracy people like be Oh, they're trying to make

702
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 2: the black men the face of this, and it's about that.

703
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: They're trying to make it about the players. Here's what

704
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: I'll say. That could be true, but I don't think

705
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: it's true. What I think is our obsession with celebrity.

706
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 2: We only care about three of them names, right, because

707
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: we don't know the Gambino family anymore. They're not celebrities

708
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 2: to us. I can't tell you them twenties. The other

709
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: twenty seven people can walk right past me walking down

710
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: the street and I wouldn't even stop.

711
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 4: But these three niggas, I know.

712
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: Them, So like we can make it act like we

713
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: can act like it's a targeted attack on just those

714
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: three guys, or we can kind of be like, we

715
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: don't really care about gambling, We don't really.

716
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: Care about poker.

717
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: What we care about is our sports, and so these

718
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 2: three guys are sports names, not even the biggest names,

719
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: but they're the ones that we care about. But yeah,

720
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: they arrested thirty people. Four other individuals, Eric Ernest Mars's Fairly,

721
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: Shane Henning, and the Naro Laster were named the Department

722
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 2: of Justice indictments. So when people say they're only doing

723
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: this to these brothers, that's actually not true.

724
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 4: Just who gives a fuck about these other niggas.

725
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: I didn't wait outside to see Eric Ernest's mug shot

726
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: and what kind of close he.

727
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 4: Wore to his hearing.

728
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: You know, you the only people that got shocked with

729
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: his family and friends.

730
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: It took years and spanned eleven states. According to Kash Betel, Oh.

731
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: You know Biden administration did that they too lazy.

732
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: The individuals allegedly involved and running.

733
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 3: Out Eleven eleven not that many.

734
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 6: When you think about the Internet and the reach of

735
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 6: how many apps you can gamble through, where the kid

736
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 6: is many, you think.

737
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: It would be somebody in these states.

738
00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: The key is two is enough for federal charge? Yeah,

739
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: like eleven they got your ass.

740
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 4: Two is enough. They don't need a lesson.

741
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: Two means you cross state lines.

742
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 4: They got nine extra states.

743
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: If you somehow beat an extra you somehow beat them charges.

744
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 2: And like, nah, I didn't go to the Atlanta where

745
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: they're like, well what about the other nine states?

746
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I do travel there sometimes.

747
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's a federal charge, my friend, you crossed

748
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: them borders. I don't want to hear that news. I

749
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: know that ain't bad news.

750
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: Just going to New Orleans.

751
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 6: We ain't gonna follow him, right, You don't just want

752
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 6: to go because it's money growing right now, we're not

753
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 6: improving this all to follow.

754
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: You got to pay that at your own pocket, doll

755
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: that's just them letting you know.

756
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 4: That's just them letting you know how much they got you. Right.

757
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 4: Eleven eleven states is.

758
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: Them letting you know, like, oh, we followed followed, we

759
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: know everywhere, so the Banano Gambino on Genevieve's crime families

760
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: and some of these eleage poker games are accused of

761
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: rigging the contests in their favors. Individuals reportedly use secret cameras,

762
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: contacts that can read mark cards, and X ray tables,

763
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: among other methods to cheat players out of millions.

764
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 4: Now, I know Mary's here and Mary cove of your ears.

765
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: I don't want you to be upset by this, but

766
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: but I saw Pablo Torre tweet out that Kevin Garnett

767
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: was at these.

768
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 4: Games and.

769
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: He's not accused in indictment. He's not accused of doing

770
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: anything illegal. He's not even accused of knowing the games

771
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: were rigged. If I'm Kevin Garnett and I am ever

772
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: in a room with this nigga, I am whooping his

773
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 2: mother fucking ass for this ain't the time to be playing.

774
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: This is not the this ain't a scoop bit, just

775
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: mother fucking line.

776
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: If I'm not involved at all.

777
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 6: Even Gilbert said, right my name out your mouth.

778
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: Bro, I've never seen Gilbert break character before, like.

779
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: He always in character.

780
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's still trying to act like he trolling

781
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: like he was like he did something tonight where he

782
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: was like, I'm playing the local run at my local run,

783
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: and shoot, if I score more than twenty points, I

784
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: won't sue y'all for defamation. But I'm like the fact

785
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 2: that you actually and he's like, and I'm dead serious,

786
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, you want to sue them for defamation so

787
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: bad because you scared you talking about mafia nigga. I

788
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: would be scared too. Ain't no joke that funny, ain't

789
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: no prank worthy. And he tried to act did you

790
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: know I was did you know he put me on

791
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: his Instagram line like I made a joke on Twitter.

792
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 2: I took that picture from the first.

793
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: Forty eight where the kid got that that that.

794
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 2: Meal and he was about to snitch, and I said,

795
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: give it areenas Today he put my picture on.

796
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 4: His I g R. People was tagging me to and

797
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 4: I was, I was like, I hope I ain't in

798
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 4: this lawsuit.

799
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth?

800
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: I know nobody but you got.

801
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 4: I ain't got that Rachel Niggas money, I ain't no pop.

802
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: The New York Times ain't got my back.

803
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this on wax I know nobody from

804
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: the five families.

805
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: Right, I'm scared. I don't want to smoke nor.

806
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: Of their family members of any associations.

807
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 3: You better take both to be like he could he could.

808
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: Hey, man, I listen, I'll apologize like Iron Ryan Clark

809
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: ain't got the truth.

810
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: I will. I was.

811
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Okay, I didn't know. Like I don't want

812
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: them problems. And so I'm just making a joke with you.

813
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 4: Right, But I'm just making I'm just making a joke.

814
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying Pablo implicating KG being at these games, and

815
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, Pablo, I know you like to do

816
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: the our emojis and isn't that interesting shit? And I

817
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: know you think that covers you legally, and you're right,

818
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: legally you didn't make any allegations about KG. But I'm

819
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: telling you KG is a crazy person and it ain't

820
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: gotta always be legally. You could be covered legally, but

821
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: who's gonna cover you physically when y'all be at some event?

822
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 4: Man? You know you be at places.

823
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: I worry for Pablo now because I think k bro

824
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: if we found out it was on site, would you

825
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: be shocked if KG was on site with Pablo? I

826
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: wouldn't because he's a crazy person. Oh anyway, I thought

827
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: that was reckless. You can listen again. Mary, I'm sorry,

828
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: but I thought that was I would I would not

829
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: have done that ship because a real crazy man, and

830
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: he will fucking be like, yeah, what's up with that

831
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 2: ship you tweeted? You know, like you know, I don't

832
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 2: you know, because he's at the games. It's a criminal,

833
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: fucking conspiracy, nigga.

834
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying and trying to rehab. He

835
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 6: trying to he's trying to be known out here as

836
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 6: one of these people that can talk sports.

837
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 4: Brought to you by FANDUID.

838
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 3: Like like, he ain't playing around. Don't play around with

839
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 3: his name.

840
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 4: Everybody don't play the same man.

841
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 3: No, they actually don't one thing. Don't play about us

842
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 3: his money.

843
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: My eyes got bigger ship when he tweeted that, and

844
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: then I saw KG through his people or somebody was

845
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: reached out. And then Pablo put out like a you know,

846
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 2: they said KG left the game early when he realized

847
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: it was gambling.

848
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: He actually thought it was just an after party, blah

849
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 4: blah blah.

850
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, that's KG reaching out to let

851
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 2: you know, don't keep my mother fucking name out this ship.

852
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm not playing about this, And I'm like, Okay, I

853
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: hope it ends at I hope it ends at a

854
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 2: tweet because I would not put it past that seven

855
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: foot tall man to show up.

856
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: I would not put it past KG to.

857
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: Pretend to be Mark Cuban and be like, yeah, let's

858
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: go talk about it, you know, on the air, in

859
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 2: front of everybody, and.

860
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 4: Then just check your ass in the hallway, like you're

861
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 4: gonna talk about the ship.

862
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: We see how treat his friends.

863
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 6: We saw how he felt about Ray Allen leaving the team,

864
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 6: and how he how he felt about that He don't

865
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 6: even know you. I'm sorry to say it, but I noticed,

866
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 6: man like, we don't he don't know you.

867
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 4: Don't nobody want to different, don't nobody want to hear there?

868
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: They're part of a news scoop about who was at

869
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: a game that a federal cases involving. They like, don't

870
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: nobody want to hear that dog? But anyway, I thought

871
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: that was funny. The funny detail. Bill Billi's presence at

872
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: the those games was meant to legitimize them and make

873
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: victims believe they were sitting at a fair table According

874
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 2: to a police commissioner, Jessica Tish of New York City,

875
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: he was a portly aware of the scam. He's forty

876
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: nine years old and brother, he almost brother. It might

877
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: that's bad. That's bad because like, yeah.

878
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 3: Got here, oh yeah, go ahead.

879
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 6: And the other thing too because he because to your point,

880
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 6: what he did is illegal, but you was adding an

881
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 6: illegal game, so you can't really suit him. I don't

882
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 6: believe for the illegal game that you participated in. But

883
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 6: what you can't do is say, hey, you knowingly watched

884
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 6: me at that table lose my family because I was

885
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 6: gambling five thousand a week or they right, and you

886
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 6: knowingly saw me go broke, and now I had to

887
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 6: beg and borrow money get whatever.

888
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: I gotta hurt him. I got his ass because he

889
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: no only set me up.

890
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 4: I think so, I think.

891
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 3: Uh.

892
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: The reason I would push back against that is I

893
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: don't think anyone's touching him while the Feds are looking

894
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: for him. And also right now, well hold on, I'm

895
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: not don I'm not done. I'm not done. I'm not done.

896
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: I'm not done. Also, the people he was the face

897
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 2: of stealing the money for is the mafia. And if

898
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: you just a nigga that lost some money. You still

899
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: ain't trying to take on the mob, you know what

900
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: I mean? Like so like, uh, nigga, if you're the

901
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 2: face of them stealing you the mob too? You you

902
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 2: two nigga. Yes, that's how that works.

903
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: He ain't protected, he ain't protecting.

904
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: Now you now you're just talking. Now you're just talking.

905
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: Now you're just talking. You just wanted to be away.

906
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 6: I don't believe, No, I don't believe for a second

907
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 6: that that nigga is protected.

908
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: That he was being used take that chance.

909
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 4: But they don't have leverage on him. He in on it.

910
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

911
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: Like, it's not like, oh, the mob manipulated Chauncey Billups

912
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: and the using his Like, no, this nigga was like

913
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 2: you're gonna be mad at him. I'm not saying you're

914
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: going to be mad, you're gonna want to retaliate. I'm

915
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: not saying you're gonna shouldn't want to retaliate. I'm telling

916
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: you it's a little more high stakes than how you

917
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: making it sound like, Oh yeah, I'm just gonna run

918
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: up on I'm like, okay.

919
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: Like he's some nigga in the street.

920
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: Okay, win in ten years when he got out of

921
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: prison or what like at the trial, like when you're

922
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: gonna do it, I just want to know you're gonna

923
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: go to jail, Like what are you gonna do it?

924
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 3: But it's just what me and set me up.

925
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, if I'll put if we would cout

926
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 4: bet on this.

927
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: Ironically, I would bet more money KG ran up on

928
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: Pablo than any anyone that got then KG ran up

929
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 2: on Billups.

930
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 4: I bet more money on that.

931
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 2: Because because like some of these dudes might have got taken,

932
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 2: but it don't sound like people was like, oh I

933
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 2: got taken and I'm.

934
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 4: Out of my house.

935
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: It sounded like it was more like it was people

936
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 2: with a lot of money that got money stolen from

937
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: them through rig poker games, but not into like the poorhouse.

938
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: It sounds like theyhes.

939
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 4: But the other thing is like.

940
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: I uh, like, like Mary brought up, I wonder how

941
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: many players have stumbled into a game. That's what I'm

942
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: saying about the Pablo tweet. It's reckless because who knows

943
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: how many players that is? And like that's not really news.

944
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm a person that got played and you're out here

945
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: putting it out there, like there's some sort of association

946
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: to this game beyond just I happened to sit at

947
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: a table that could have happened to anybody. And you

948
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: know that the player's names who are being brought up

949
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: so far, like Chahunzi Billips was involved directly. Yes, so

950
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, keep me out of that ship. If

951
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: the government want to put my name out there or something, fine,

952
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 2: But the fact that the government didn't is making it

953
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: seem like I'm shady or hiding something or I know

954
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 2: more than I know. And like I said, maybe everybody's

955
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: gonna be cool about it, but I would be nervous

956
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: if I was poblo of just publishing a list of

957
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: like and this no fucker goes at the game, and

958
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: this person was at the game, and we know that

959
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: the investigation hasn't closed, so like we could be six

960
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: months from Kg's name being in it, and.

961
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: To me, that's even more dangerous.

962
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: Like Mary was like, yet you know when I was

963
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: like Kg's name isn't criminal, I'm like, right, but imagine

964
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: if it was criminally attached, that's even more incentive for

965
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: him to run up.

966
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: On your ass, Like you don't put me in this.

967
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 4: I actually am a knowledgeable at the crime.

968
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 3: I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't even radarf, but now

969
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 3: I am, because.

970
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been nervous.

971
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 2: But yeah, So Terry Roseire we talked about his ship.

972
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: He was with the Hornets a better Place, fourteen thousand

973
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 2: dollars on unders involving his stats.

974
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: God damn, there's a lot of money.

975
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: Hey man, I don't even know that much about the GAMBLA.

976
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: Just don't sound like the dumbest ship you've ever heard

977
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: in your life.

978
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: I can see Lebron James, I could see, well that's

979
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: still a lot.

980
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 4: Of money, but just don't sound like you definitely gonna

981
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: get caught.

982
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: So this is one person that bettered that much. Yeah,

983
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: oh that's ridiculous.

984
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 4: You don't think you're going to get caught.

985
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one person.

986
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: And see that's the thing that's the part of this

987
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 2: that isn't being discussed enough, the addiction, Because that's that's

988
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: addict thinking like a normal person would be like, let

989
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 2: me hit for a quick lick. I'm gonna put fifty

990
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: dollars on it and make fifty or whatever.

991
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 4: The fuck.

992
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: I don't know how unders work, but you know I'm

993
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: the parlay this, and like, let me make a small

994
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: amount of money. Boy, when you put fourteen k on

995
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: the under on a random game against New Orleans and

996
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 2: it's the Hornets and it's brother, they know you know something, yes,

997
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: like you didn't have even a thousands will cause a flag,

998
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: like you almost need to put like fourteen thousand on

999
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: something else and that you know you're gonna lose to

1000
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: make this one, make it like I always do.

1001
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 4: Fourteen thousand.

1002
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: You can't do it. And they follow your account to

1003
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: it and they go, no, this is abnormal.

1004
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 6: I'll watched somebody come in they put forty dollars and

1005
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 6: chips on black and then put it all on black

1006
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 6: and look and I was like, who would put forty

1007
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 6: dollars on one thing?

1008
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 3: That seems crazy.

1009
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 6: I didn't even have for the dogs kept with and

1010
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 6: they just randomly was like, your forty on black fourteen.

1011
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 2: Green and not dude, for the record, Lebron for the record,

1012
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: Just James, you're talking about forty on black, right, that's

1013
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 2: that's that's Lebron James. You know what I'm saying, forty

1014
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: on black is is betting on Lebron. This Nigga was

1015
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: putting like forty on some like bidwist in the back alley.

1016
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, but no game like

1017
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: you like, no one was at this table but him, and.

1018
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 4: They was like you are but him.

1019
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 2: I would like to put fourteen thousand dollars you heard

1020
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 2: me on Terry Rose here to get under fall rebounds tonight,

1021
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: thank you.

1022
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: And they actually eight times for they took that much

1023
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: like the gambling, that gambling. This is gonna lag.

1024
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 4: Are you sure the app should.

1025
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: Pop up an alert like you know we're watching this

1026
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: one right, Yes, just letting you know you.

1027
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: Better lose the app the total. First, we don't have

1028
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 3: a tear in the NBA. He's in there. He's in there.

1029
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: Scary tearry the app.

1030
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: When you do that, the app to take their name off.

1031
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: I think the app shoul dude. It should be like

1032
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: fans have been alerted to this transaction. Yes, as soon

1033
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: as you hit the button, the fans have been alerted

1034
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: that you put this money out. I hope you hey,

1035
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: I hope you don't win, because it's like, you know,

1036
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: the case is happening, the case is starting tonight. If

1037
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: you win this fact, we are contacting the NBA right now,

1038
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 2: you go.

1039
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 3: You're gonna need the extra.

1040
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: Hop you do it, because if you look, look, if

1041
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: you lose, ain't no case.

1042
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 4: Like d what a dummy, because the house always wins

1043
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 4: the house.

1044
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: Just take the money if you win, nigga, Oh my god.

1045
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: They was like, if we have to be justified in

1046
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: paying you.

1047
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 4: They on the phone. It's like that John Wick.

1048
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: Shit, will they be putting in the bounties and they

1049
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 2: have that room full of collar as soon as they

1050
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: see him.

1051
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: Operator, we got fourteen thousand on tarr Rose here, fourteen

1052
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 4: thousand terror Rose there. Take that up. Listen that right

1053
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 4: to the Fed.

1054
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: Let's put that bounty out.

1055
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, James Komy, can we get James Comy on the line.

1056
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Adam Adam Silva can give me Adam Silva.

1057
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 6: Who put this on a nigga who normally averaged Michael

1058
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 6: somehow had a deposit of fourteen k.

1059
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 2: They say he told one of his friends, the narrow

1060
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: lassiter Denaro, that's a funny first name.

1061
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

1062
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 2: He could pull himself out the game early. He would

1063
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 2: pull himself out of the game early. Last ter also

1064
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: defending in the cases a ledge that sold the information

1065
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: to better for one hundred thousand dollars. Why the investigation

1066
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: looming over him? Rose there was preparing to play for

1067
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: the Heat this season the guard battle of the hamstring injury.

1068
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: Ahead of the see team season opener Wednesday, he was

1069
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: reportedly available to play in the contest. He did not

1070
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: make an appearance, although he made appearance in court. And

1071
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 2: the thing is, they said he was wearing hornets jersey.

1072
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: Nigga, why.

1073
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: Now that being said, I did not that being said,

1074
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: I did not see a picture of the front of

1075
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 2: him in this jersey for real. It appeared to be

1076
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: a black hoodie. And the picture I saw on Twitter

1077
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: was a blue hoodie with hornets on it in the courtroom.

1078
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that could be a I photoshop. I

1079
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: don't know, but that was the rumor. I don't know

1080
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 2: if it's true, right.

1081
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 3: And the same thing about Chauncey Bills.

1082
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 6: The rumor like they showed a puture of him with

1083
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 6: the with the one of them rich Paul what's the

1084
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 6: name of lebron Mm hmm, Like that was a sweatshirt

1085
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 6: he had on.

1086
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 3: Like that was the rumor, and that picture was the same,

1087
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 3: Like you said, it could have been Ai but.

1088
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 4: Right, So, yeah, I don't. I have not.

1089
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: I've only heard rumors that Terry came in the Hornets

1090
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 2: thing I counted.

1091
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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's true.

1092
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it might be true, but I'm

1093
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: saying it's definitely a straight at the Hornets cart.

1094
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 4: For no reason.

1095
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: We not.

1096
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 4: This ain't even about us at this point.

1097
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: You ain't even on the team no more.

1098
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 3: Boston. Yeah, he made his name in Boston. Why y'all,

1099
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: Why y'all looking at us?

1100
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 6: Right?

1101
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 2: And I didn't see any pictures of him from the front,

1102
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: so like, I don't think, I don't know that it's

1103
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: a Hornets hoodie or whatever, but that was Here's some

1104
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: actual pictures of him leaving the courtroom. Is some colorful

1105
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: shorts and a black hoodie, but you don't see the

1106
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: front of it. And these are the only pictures I've

1107
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: seen in him.

1108
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: With it.

1109
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:03,479
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know, but yeah, man, it's not good.

1110
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: And then you know, of course, this makes it very

1111
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: funny that the Hornets had so we were gonna play

1112
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: him the Miami Heat and Charlotte and you know, Knights

1113
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: have different themes, and the theme for his night was

1114
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 2: betting night. Oh no, they canceled that night. They canceled

1115
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: it before this indictment came down.

1116
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 4: But they can't. They canceled because everyone made the same.

1117
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: Like joke, like wait, what Terry rose Ere, y'all sure,

1118
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: y'all want to do that? So yeah, man, we'll see

1119
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: what happens. The NBA PA, for their part, kind of

1120
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 2: sounded like non committal, like it wasn't the staunch defense

1121
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: of these guys. You would think the integrity of the

1122
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: game is paramount to NBA players, but so is the

1123
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 2: presumption of innocence. Both are hindered when the player popularities

1124
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 2: misused the gain attention. We will ensure our members are

1125
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: protected and afforded their due process rights through this process.

1126
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 4: Yep.

1127
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 1: And that's the proper thing to say. Yeah, people feder

1128
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: realized they are not the police, and a lot of

1129
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: people expect them to do police ship and do like

1130
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: like expect the league.

1131
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: No, this is NBA PA, the players Association. Okay, so

1132
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: these are the people that would have the player's back.

1133
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 4: You know, I'm saying that statement don't sound.

1134
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: Like saying yeah, this don't sound like that confident They

1135
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: read them papers going that's a very.

1136
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 2: That's a very non committal, like, hey, we all have

1137
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: the right to due process, and it was innocent to

1138
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: proven guilty.

1139
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 1: It wouldn't know, you know, banging bacon on the table

1140
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: time about how dad y'all come out to these players, right, Yes,

1141
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: I can see them being non.

1142
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 3: Committal about Chauncey.

1143
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 6: But Silvia also said something similar to the to what

1144
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 6: the players Association said when he was cornered and was

1145
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 6: stuttering uh with a similar statement.

1146
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 3: And now I was like, I mean it's the right

1147
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 3: thing to say, yep, but it don't matter. None of

1148
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 3: it matters right now.

1149
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: Is right?

1150
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: Right?

1151
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: None of it matters that So you better just be

1152
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: neutral and be like, look, we'll just let them do

1153
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: their investigation blah blah blah blah blah. Because they did

1154
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: they part. It's because their part is you do you don't,

1155
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: you can't come to work, that's it for them.

1156
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1157
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: And like I said, I don't know how much the

1158
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: reddit is accurate because of how much people can can

1159
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 2: doctor shit. But I mean they said he showed up

1160
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: in a clutch sports hoodie to his federal court appearents

1161
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: and it's under NBA reddit. But once again, I want

1162
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: to say it's probably true, but I don't know, and

1163
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: the and the and I will say the terry thing

1164
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: looks like it wasn't true because the picture I saw

1165
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 2: that everyone was sharing was a bright blue hoodie that

1166
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 2: had hornets on it and you could see his whole

1167
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: chest and ship in the courtroom. And then the pictures

1168
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: I saw was a black hoodie from the back leaving

1169
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: like like, I was, like, that's not even the same.

1170
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: He couldn't possibly wore both of those outfits, right, So

1171
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 2: I mean anyway, but yeah, it's it's it's pretty bad.

1172
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: While Bill's not named or mentioned in the Rose Here indictment,

1173
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 2: the Trailblazer coch matches the description of a person referred

1174
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 2: to as Coke and Spirit.

1175
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 4: Of Number eight.

1176
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: In that indictment, Coke and Spirit eight allegedly provided inside

1177
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: information to Earnest suggesting the Trailblazer would attempt intentionally lose

1178
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: a late season game against Chicago Bulls in twenty twenty.

1179
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 4: Three in order to receive a better draft pick.

1180
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: The program in rose There was the same one that

1181
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 2: resulted in the Toronto Raptor for John tay Porter being

1182
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: banned from the NBA for life. Yeah, I just don't

1183
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 2: see how Terry's not done.

1184
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 4: I just don't. I don't know. Maybe he'll like I

1185
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 4: said it and let me be fair, Let me be fair.

1186
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 4: That's not fair. I can see a.

1187
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: Way where he's not found guilty in that they can't

1188
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: really prove the intent that he was trying to like

1189
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: game the system, like if they can, if somebody will

1190
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: take the bullet for him, if his cousin goes well.

1191
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 2: Terry wasn't actually telling me to sell this information and

1192
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: bet on him. He was telling me this is a

1193
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: cousin and a friend, and then I sold that information.

1194
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have done that, but I kind of fucked

1195
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: him over when I did that.

1196
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 3: That.

1197
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 4: But they don't make a lot of homies like.

1198
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: That, know they don't.

1199
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: I think Barry Bonds, I'm saying that that's the only

1200
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 2: homie who went to jail, and Barry Bonds took care

1201
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: of that nigga.

1202
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: When he got out of there, he was like, I

1203
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: got you for life.

1204
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 6: Him and look here went over to his house to

1205
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 6: divide it. It's because he always looked out for me

1206
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 6: and I wanted to pay him back the money from

1207
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 6: times before when he let me borrow money or took

1208
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 6: care of me.

1209
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what. I'll tell you what too.

1210
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what to Justice. I'll tell you what

1211
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: to Justine. Right right, I'm glad you brought that up.

1212
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up. I will tell you

1213
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: what though. The fact that we know about that money

1214
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: means he finally cooperating, right, because.

1215
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 4: How else they find out about the money.

1216
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: The fact that he's like, yo.

1217
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 4: I gave him two hundred K I'm like, oh, that's

1218
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 4: a specific amount. Huh huh?

1219
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: What they find that one out from Terry? So yeah, man,

1220
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 2: and the NBA didn't know that, So how would they

1221
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: know that?

1222
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1223
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 6: Uh?

1224
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: Bam out of Bayo on Eric's sposter said, the team

1225
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 2: stands behind Terry Rose here and for support.

1226
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: Okay, we see how long that last?

1227
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 3: Wait? Bam said him? And Eric? Or did Eric say?

1228
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 4: They both said it?

1229
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: They both said, but okay, that's their teammate.

1230
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: But honestly, like what they're supposed to say, right, So,

1231
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 2: what do y'all think about Terry? Oh he did it,

1232
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 2: and we don't he need to get the funk off

1233
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: the team.

1234
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not gonna say that.

1235
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 4: They're gonna say we support him.

1236
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: He got the right to da da dah.

1237
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know he's a good brother. Blah blah blah.

1238
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 6: Se so listen that Sam Mitchell Clerks don't have me

1239
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 6: thinking about you. And I said, hmm, if you're like,

1240
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 6: Justin didn't do that, I know him.

1241
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:56,919
Speaker 3: He's a good brother.

1242
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 6: I stand just In the possible do anything, have it

1243
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 6: or what they do in that house, But I hope

1244
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 6: he didn't do it.

1245
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: Justin. I'm trying to tell you right now they come

1246
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: knocking on our door. I'm turning over all the tapes.

1247
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: Just let you know right now you are not protected.

1248
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: I think I would do what Adam Silver did. I'm

1249
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: deeply disturbed by the rest of Justin And there's nothing

1250
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 2: more important to the Blackout Tips and his fans and

1251
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 2: the integrity of the podcast.

1252
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: Asks me no comments, So I had a.

1253
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 2: Pity in my stomach. It was very upsetting. Justin at

1254
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: the time cooperated. We ultimately concluded that there was insufficient evidence.

1255
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 4: That's all I have to say about that.

1256
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: No comments, very transparent about what happens at the Blackout

1257
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: Tips and now don't ask me nothing.

1258
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 4: Please come to the live show. We sorry, please please.

1259
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: Justin is no longer associated with this organization.

1260
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, yeah, I just but yeah, man,

1261
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 2: I think that's most of it from the gambling perspective,

1262
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 2: and of course, you know, like I said, the morality

1263
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 2: of it in a league that is so in bed

1264
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 2: with gambling. And I blame this on a lot of

1265
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: the eggheads. I blame this on the people that only

1266
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: shit on the NBA, that don't seem to enjoy the

1267
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 2: game part of it anymore. I blame it on the

1268
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 2: course the corporations were so fucking greedy and so like

1269
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 2: blatantly nakedly open just trying to get the money out

1270
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 2: of everything that they would even allow the sport to

1271
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 2: be co like to align with gambling. Because at the

1272
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 2: end of the day, a lot of this stuff comes

1273
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: from like the culture of like fantasy football and analytics

1274
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 2: and that kind of shit. And when you turn the

1275
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: game into just soulless numbers, you lose something. Because the

1276
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 2: analytics game is perfectly aligned with the sports betting game. Yes,

1277
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: the like the when oh so and so averages this

1278
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: many points per this and this this, and they do this,

1279
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: and they numbers don't necessarily make a thing better, and

1280
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't and it can never capture the field.

1281
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: No, it can't because a lot of them statistic people

1282
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: took a lot of the shit that I could see,

1283
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 1: the fun out of the game because statistically you don't

1284
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: like them numbers say you don't do that, and everybody

1285
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: follow the numbers. I'm like, okay, but it did take

1286
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: something away from the game because they too busy following

1287
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: y'all statistics.

1288
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: That's how you get a game where there's so many

1289
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 2: three point attempts, yes, because they've just done the math

1290
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: and the math the maths, shoot three and fuck the

1291
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 2: field of it. Fuck the two pointer that you probably

1292
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 2: would have made. Get that three pointer that you might make,

1293
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: but if but it counts for point one four six

1294
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: of a bucket every time you take that attempt, as

1295
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: appoints to point oh eight and five of a bucket

1296
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 2: every time you take a two.

1297
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 4: So like, it's that kind of thing.

1298
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: And I think that made gambling easy because gambling is

1299
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: now in our phones and our pockets and it's just numbers.

1300
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 4: Yes, so you're just playing numbers games.

1301
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 2: I hate when I'm at a basketball game and the

1302
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: loudest people yelling and it's not everybody, but.

1303
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 4: Are the gamblers. Yes, especially for like a team like

1304
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 4: the Hornets. Well we're not good.

1305
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 2: So now like people are at the game, they barely

1306
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: like basketball. They're just like, I need another three.

1307
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 4: I need a three. Come on, Miles, hit that three them.

1308
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: Dude's out the fucking word the.

1309
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 4: Mellow I need a three. Like they're yelling at these guys.

1310
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: It's fucking annoying, I'm sure to the players, but it's

1311
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 2: also annoying to me as.

1312
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: A fan, yes, because like you're not here for the

1313
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: floor of the game.

1314
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 2: You're just yelling and it's not overwhelming. Meaning those guys

1315
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 2: stick out the most because that's so loud. But most

1316
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 2: of the people don't, you know, the ever watched basketball. Yes,

1317
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: they're having a good time. The team's up to twenty,

1318
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 2: they had a good time. The gambling people don't care

1319
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 2: about that. And when the league validates those people by

1320
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 2: getting in bed with the same apps that they're on,

1321
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 2: it changes something about the soul of the game. The

1322
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 2: obvious thing of this scandal that I said was coming,

1323
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 2: and I think and so this is where I think

1324
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: it could get worse, because I actually don't think.

1325
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 4: This is as bad as it could be yet, But

1326
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 4: I said.

1327
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 2: The privileged information part was the part. I was like, you,

1328
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 2: just how do you control that in this environment?

1329
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 4: Agreed?

1330
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 2: What if and I'm not saying this is happening, but

1331
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: what if Adam Schefter was a gambling addict, and Adam

1332
01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 2: Schefter has the fucking inside to everybody's personnel move before

1333
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: they happen. You know who getting benched a day before?

1334
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 2: Had he Sham Sharania knows who's getting everything before? What

1335
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,839
Speaker 2: if some what if one of their their information?

1336
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 4: I had?

1337
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: What if they we found out they got compromised by

1338
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 2: one to five families or you know, they were relaying

1339
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: information and to gamblers and selling it. That's when you're

1340
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 2: real fucked, I think, because that's all the way through

1341
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: the whole. That's the media, the league, your processes, and

1342
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: because the league is kind of I would argue benefits

1343
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 2: from those guys, The league benefits from Sham Sharania are

1344
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: breaking news and because it keeps you in the news cycle,

1345
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 2: even with some bullshit like oh, a new two year

1346
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 2: deal for KD. Like do I basketball fan of KD

1347
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 2: care about him signing an extension? No? I was gonna

1348
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 2: watch him wherever he played. He can play at the WYMCA,

1349
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: I won't be there. I love that dude, but it's

1350
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: news to a certain type of outlet that always needs

1351
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: news to be breaking, which means you have privileged.

1352
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 6: They don't have to come from the They don't have

1353
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 6: to come from the teams either, or the NBA is propaganda. Look,

1354
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 6: they're just propping up certain players. They're always in tune.

1355
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 6: It's like, no, y'all doing this, and keep it and.

1356
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 4: Keep in mind.

1357
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: When Sham's reports something because he got it from an agent,

1358
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 2: when the agent reports.

1359
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 4: Something because he got it from his god, his player.

1360
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 2: So you got a small circle that's getting bigger and

1361
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: bigger and bigger every year because everyone's so fucking greedy

1362
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: to get the information. And need you bring in gambling,

1363
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 2: which really really relies on insider knowledge as the big ass,

1364
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 2: like tell the big advantages.

1365
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 4: You just know something everybody else don't know.

1366
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 2: This was bound to happen. Let's not even get into

1367
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 2: the NC double A. We just talked two weeks ago

1368
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 2: about how the NC Double A was going to allow

1369
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: athletes to bet on professional sports.

1370
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: I remember you saying that.

1371
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 2: I was like, no, you shouldn't, and I was listening

1372
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 2: up on mine I forget who the guest was, but

1373
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: the guess made and a stude point that I didn't

1374
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 2: even think about.

1375
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 4: And it's so true. You know they did that.

1376
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 2: Why so they have less stuff they would have to

1377
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 2: monitor to catch people cheating.

1378
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 4: So you just basically gave up.

1379
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: You just said, look, y'all can bet on professional sports

1380
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 2: because we it's it's a lot of schools with a

1381
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 2: lot of players. Yes, we can only really police when

1382
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 2: y'all do ship to your own games or to another school.

1383
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 2: We are not going to be able to track when

1384
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: you bet on the Blazers. Now you would think, well, Rod,

1385
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 2: that's because they're you know, they're professionals, and those they're

1386
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 2: just the other kids are amageres Are you telling me

1387
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 2: if you're if you went to Duke, you don't got

1388
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag's phone number and you might not have some

1389
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 2: inside information if he tells you ma'am, I'm knee hurt.

1390
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 2: I think I might have to sit down for a minute.

1391
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: And you find that ship out seven hours before everybody else.

1392
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 2: You can't be like, give me all the Cooper Flag unders,

1393
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 2: give me the Dallas losing by fifty, like give me everything.

1394
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: I know something and their children, but young adults.

1395
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: And what the nc double A has said is basically,

1396
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,879
Speaker 2: even if that happens, we ain't gonna get involved, Yeah.

1397
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: Because we don't want to, because we can't police.

1398
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 4: And that that takes us all the way back the

1399
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 4: way we started.

1400
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: They can't police. They've always pretended to be like the Boogeyman,

1401
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: them and all the all the professional leagues. They pretend

1402
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: to be like the Boogeyman, and they have convinced the

1403
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: the the the populace that they actually have power when

1404
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: they don't because they can't arrest nobody. They can't put

1405
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: nobody in jail. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, they

1406
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: can quote unquote investigate, but they can't investigate investigate like

1407
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: a police department can.

1408
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 2: Carlos, I mean, Carmelo Anthony had a quote where he

1409
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 2: was talking about how the NBA is like the FAES.

1410
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 2: When I got in trouble with that stop Snitch and

1411
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 2: ship that the commissioner, David Stern reached out to me

1412
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 2: by blah blah, and Karen Hunter played that clip from

1413
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 2: me yesterday to be like, you know, what do you

1414
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 2: think about this? And I was like, I think that's bullshit.

1415
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 2: I don't think they are the fans. I think Carmelo

1416
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 2: was doing shit that me and my friends saw him doing,

1417
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: and the commissioner reached out to him the way that

1418
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 2: me and you would reach out to him. He was

1419
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 2: on a videotape series talk Stop Snitching. David Stern did

1420
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: him a big favor by pulling him in and going,

1421
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 2: you can be in the streets or you can go

1422
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 2: ahead and be an NBA player.

1423
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 4: But you can't do both.

1424
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: No, you can't.

1425
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 4: And I was like, that wasn't.

1426
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 2: Yeah they didn't take private investigators. What Yeah, exactly exactly.

1427
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:42,560
Speaker 4: He fell for it.

1428
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 2: It didn't take You don't need a private investigators to know.

1429
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 2: Being on the Stop Snitching tape was stupid. I thought

1430
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 2: it was stupid. I was on message boards and I

1431
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 2: was like, I was on shh, like this nigga dumb,

1432
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 2: what is he doing? So yeah, anyway, let me make

1433
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 2: sure I got through all the gambling stuff. Oh, incriminating

1434
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 2: text messages leaked how mafia enforcers uh threatening and attack

1435
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: victims of rigged poker games involving Chauncey BILLUPSFA.

1436
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: That's what they do, right, Wonder why he got that

1437
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: black eye?

1438
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,759
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, they said they someone tweeted out organized crime

1439
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 2: always delivers with the nicknames.

1440
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 4: Let me see if I can zoom in and see

1441
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 4: what it says mafia. Yeah.

1442
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: Also, I didn't realize like the name of the operations

1443
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 2: was funny. I forgot what they was. But all right,

1444
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 2: so here's the nicknames. Ernest this isn't the name of

1445
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 2: the operation, just the name of just the people involved.

1446
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,879
Speaker 4: Organized crime. Nicknames for people.

1447
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 2: Ernest a Yello, Nelson Alvarez, also known as Spanish.

1448
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: G Spanish G. That's hilarious.

1449
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: Lewis up Keller also known as Lou app amar Awa

1450
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 2: a Awawa Awawa Anyway, also known.

1451
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 4: As Flapper Poker and Flappy not Flappy.

1452
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: Matthew Dedno known as Maddie and the wrestler Eric Ernest

1453
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 2: also known as spook.

1454
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

1455
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 2: Thomas Girlardo known as Juice, Tony Goodson known as Black Tony,

1456
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: Shane Henning know this Shane Shane Henning on his sugar.

1457
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: Boy, these names. I wonder how they got these names. Boy,

1458
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: you know, you got to be scared and they be like,

1459
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: you don't want to flapp a fucking with you.

1460
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 2: Osmond Hoddy known as Albabian, Bruce or Big Bruce, Horatio

1461
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 2: Hugh known as h Zen Hugh, known as Jonathan Chan,

1462
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 2: Jonathan Hugh, Scrully and Stanley.

1463
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: Was about multiple names.

1464
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, these nicknames is pretty wild.

1465
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of them nicknames don't sound scared, but they

1466
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: sound in the scared. What you say, didn't that name?

1467
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: It's associated with the mafia?

1468
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, be cute.

1469
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 3: They need some people to come up and help them

1470
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 3: with their brandon.

1471
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: Uh.

1472
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 2: They also said in text messages they were threatening people

1473
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 2: that had lost in games. One such characters in Who

1474
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 2: of Brooklyn, New York, also known as Jonathan Chan or

1475
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: Jonathan Hugh, sent text messages to an alleged victim named

1476
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 2: John Doe for number five after he failed to pay. Yeah,

1477
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 2: you're not gonna pay me, all right? Bet watch what's

1478
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 2: good now? You've been running your mouth unchecked. Oh that's

1479
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 2: never could sign Another time he said, I punched somebody

1480
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 2: in the face the other day. Shit unraveling quick. Don't

1481
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 2: if blankets seen anywhere else in the next two days.

1482
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 4: You do what you have to do to get the money. Seth.

1483
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 4: I'm sick of this.

1484
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, this is why when Justin talked about how

1485
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run up on Chauncey.

1486
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, you're not, No, not.

1487
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,560
Speaker 2: This niggas mobbed up fit. You find the hope he

1488
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 2: go to jail like the rest of the victims.

1489
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 4: That's what you for a very long time.

1490
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 2: These niggas been texting you when you lost money, like yeah,

1491
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fuck you up.

1492
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,600
Speaker 4: You just happy they gone. That's what you.

1493
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 1: Did. You're not getting no more threat threaten to text messages.

1494
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 2: If you was pay, if you was Liam Neeson, you

1495
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 2: wouldn't be in the NBA, you know what I mean,

1496
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 2: if you was getting down like that, you would have

1497
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: ben got these.

1498
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,839
Speaker 4: Niggas back, uh if Yeah, this is crazy.

1499
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 2: Seth did much more, gave him a little nudge or

1500
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 2: small but big threat. He later suggested that that something

1501
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 2: had been done to the to the to get the money.

1502
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 2: All right, yeah man, these dudes were not playing man o,

1503
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 2: my goodness, my goodness. And oh I thought this was

1504
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 2: funny because you know, I obviously Stephen A. Smith, who's

1505
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 2: on there with Monica McNutt on first take, goes into

1506
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 2: how this is Trump getting revenge and you just had

1507
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 2: to see. I saw this live and was just like,

1508
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 2: this nigga is the dumbest nigga in the world.

1509
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 4: You know what world did I live in?

1510
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 7: How many times, for one incident after another have I

1511
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 7: said Trump is coming? He's coming. I'm gonna say it

1512
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 7: on national television again. Bad Bunny is performing at the

1513
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 7: Super Bowl and all of a sudden, you hear in

1514
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 7: Ice is gonna be there looking to engage in mass deportations,

1515
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 7: disrupting things. Big night for the NBA when Beyonna put

1516
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 7: on a show that has now been smeared because we're

1517
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 7: talking about this story. Okay, Remember Trump has a long,

1518
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 7: long hist to reconnected to the world of sports because

1519
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 7: he had those casinos. Where do you think folks will coming?

1520
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 4: Half the time.

1521
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,799
Speaker 7: I'm not talking about individuals, I'm talking about the culture.

1522
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 7: When people want to go to a casino, when people

1523
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 7: want to gamble, when people want to party, or whatever

1524
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 7: the case may be.

1525
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 4: This was his kind of connection to that.

1526
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 7: Why am I glad you're here, Monica, because don't be

1527
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 7: surprised that the WNBA is next on his list. Because

1528
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 7: when you've got all of these protests that have been

1529
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 7: going out there and people that have been protesting against

1530
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 7: him and what have you, This man is coming.

1531
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 4: He's coming.

1532
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,560
Speaker 7: And I've been saying it for a long time, and

1533
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 7: to me, this is the latest nugget of evidence that

1534
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 7: we're talking about right here. That's not to question the

1535
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 7: legitimacy of the case.

1536
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 4: We don't know.

1537
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 7: We're all sitting up here with saying that we don't know.

1538
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 7: But anybody that has been around him, anybody that has

1539
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 7: talked to him, anybody that has seen his reactions from

1540
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 7: the sports leagues and the positions that people have take,

1541
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 7: they are not surprised at what's going on today. I'm

1542
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 7: watching a press conference with the director.

1543
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 4: Of the FBI. God tell me when we've seen that.

1544
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 7: We've seen people, we've seen accusations before, We've seen athletes

1545
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 7: get in trouble with the law before. You don't see

1546
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 7: the director of the FBI having a press conference. It's

1547
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 7: not coincidental, it's not an accident. It's a statement they

1548
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 7: already expressed why.

1549
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 2: I think they were there to take the credit for

1550
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 2: the work, not because they started this and brought it

1551
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 2: to fruition. I truly think they just jumped into the

1552
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 2: last second to get Can.

1553
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 1: I tell you something else? I don't know what the

1554
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 1: fuck that any other FBI person looks like because they don't.

1555
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: Never they were like, I did my job. There's sen

1556
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: a spokesperson out or or somebody else like there. They're like, bitch,

1557
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: I need to do my job, Like.

1558
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 2: I mean, cash Hotel comes out and does these things

1559
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 2: as a stand queen.

1560
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: Yes, that's why we see his face.

1561
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's a warning that Moore is coming. And

1562
01:20:58,920 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 4: that's what they're saying.

1563
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 7: And everybody, I'm just telling you, it's it's it's it's

1564
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 7: as serious as it gets. This ain't the platform for

1565
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 7: me to get into it the way I'm going to

1566
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 7: get into it. But I've been saying he's coming, He's coming,

1567
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 7: and and and.

1568
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: I guess the thing. I have many questions, okay, and

1569
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: what does that mean? And what are these leagues supposed

1570
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,839
Speaker 1: to do? We're supposed to being afraid of the goddamn

1571
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: president of the fucking country.

1572
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 2: I mean yes, But also that that is interesting that

1573
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: that's where you went, because Monica went there too.

1574
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 7: In his eyes, folks try to throw them in jail.

1575
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 7: In his eyes, he's innocent. They try to put me

1576
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 7: behind balls. I'm getting everybody, he's not playing And so

1577
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 7: this in a lot of people's eyes. Talk to people

1578
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 7: in the NBA, talk to people in the NFL, talk

1579
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 7: to people in the world of sports. They think this

1580
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 7: is like the tip of the iceberg. These are the

1581
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 7: kind of words that are coming out of people's mouths.

1582
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 7: It's not a surprise. It's very disheartening, it's very concerning.

1583
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 7: We don't know where this is going to go, but

1584
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 7: this is just the tip of the iceberg. Everybody's been

1585
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 7: to brace themselves because and.

1586
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 4: Then he told her Monica that the WNBA got to

1587
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 4: watch out, and she just was like, what do you mean, yes, great, yep, yeah, yeah,

1588
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 4: what what do you mean?

1589
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 2: And also, you know, he was like, I'm not saying

1590
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 2: the league is wrong or that the lady's are wrong,

1591
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, but what are you saying?

1592
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 1: Then, like like, like, please explain yourself, and like that's

1593
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 1: the part with him, He just be saying shit. And

1594
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: also it's just one of those things to where you're like,

1595
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,839
Speaker 1: if the FBI investigate this, what the fuck the president

1596
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: has to do with this? Like, these are individuals that

1597
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: broke the law and they're doing their jobs. The president

1598
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with this thing whatsoever. And it's

1599
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: also one of those things where basically you're saying Trump

1600
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: is is threatening and to an extent, you're saying it's okay. Well, bitch,

1601
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 1: you cover these sports. What do you do in these

1602
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: sports around.

1603
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 2: You're saying, he's saying it's okay. What makes you say

1604
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 2: he said it was okay?

1605
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 1: Because maybe it's just the way he framing or he

1606
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: phrases like he's coming for you. You better be afraid. Okay?

1607
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: Why should I be the one afraid? Like as a league,

1608
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 1: like like he's gonna penalize us, And you're basically saying,

1609
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 1: be on the look, he's gonna penalize us. But then

1610
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: you're not explaining, You're not giving me any explanations. So

1611
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you're not giving me the explanations. You're

1612
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 1: not explaining the what do you expect these leagues to do?

1613
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 2: Just shut down and fold and let him just just

1614
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 2: run over us and make us lose money and all

1615
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 2: these other shits, And with a bitch, you cover these sports,

1616
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 2: what do you do when these sports are no longer

1617
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: around for you to cover?

1618
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't.

1619
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 6: You can't explain what Stephen they saying because what he's

1620
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 6: saying is stupid, right, So.

1621
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 2: I was gonna say it's more stupid than it is.

1622
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 2: I think you're giving him more credit than what he said.

1623
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 4: I don't even think he said all.

1624
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: That, Okay, I think he's I think he just is

1625
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 2: very good at making shit about himself and blowing shit up.

1626
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 2: What he really wanted to say is I've been talking

1627
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 2: to people around leagues that are scared. What he really

1628
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 2: wanted to do is imply that Trump is out for

1629
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 2: some vengeance, and he's the Trump whisperer. He knows more

1630
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 2: about Trump and how he operates. And I was right

1631
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 2: about everything the whole time. And when I warned people

1632
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 2: about how to talk and how to act and stuff,

1633
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 2: it's because I'm actually trying to protect them from Trump,

1634
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 2: because you know.

1635
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 4: People that are out apology.

1636
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 3: I don't mean it, but.

1637
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 2: Yes, needed help, Yes, But I think I watched his

1638
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 2: live and Monica McNutt did a great job of keeping

1639
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 2: her job because she said a couple of things. He

1640
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 2: asked her something and she flipped it back on him, like,

1641
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just trying to wrap my head around it.

1642
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 4: What do you want people to do?

1643
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 1: Right?

1644
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 2: And then he basically was like, I'm not saying people

1645
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: need to do anything other than just prepare for the

1646
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 2: fact that y'all might be on her his radar. And

1647
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 2: he talked about the w NBA as an outspoken women's

1648
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 2: league that is, you know, very political and stuff, and

1649
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 2: like he might target y'all. I think it's I think

1650
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 2: is another point to be made. I don't think he

1651
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: is targeting WNBA. Can we just say I don't think

1652
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 2: he cares. I don't think he was targeting the NBA.

1653
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 2: I just think Steven A knows how to spend a

1654
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,600
Speaker 2: story into sumthing solationous that will make you sit up

1655
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 2: and be like, ooh, it's good TV. I don't think

1656
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 2: there's any he's I talk to people around the league

1657
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 2: who I don't Maybe they don't know what the fuck

1658
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 2: they talking about.

1659
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 4: I don't. Trump does not talk about the NBA. I

1660
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 4: was like the NFL because.

1661
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 2: It's the biggest sport in the world, NFL, And even

1662
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 2: with the NFL, he can't do shit, like unless y'all

1663
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:38,600
Speaker 2: do something, unless the NFL has a gambling FBI investigation,

1664
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 2: is Asia Wilson somewhere playing poker and Robin didn't know

1665
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 2: there's nothing to be done Like this is not the

1666
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,839
Speaker 2: same as him coming after James Komi.

1667
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 4: This is not the same as him coming after Jack Smith.

1668
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 4: This is not political targeting. It's convenienced that they can

1669
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 4: get some press. But that's it.

1670
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 6: Go ahead, justin unless step applying that the government is

1671
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 6: now targeting these people and planting like they're basically convicting

1672
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 6: them of things they didn't do. Unless he's implying that, right,

1673
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 6: then what are you to be afraid of.

1674
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 3: I'm not you not breaking walls.

1675
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 2: Now, he did get cash Retail's attention. He got cash

1676
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 2: Retail's attention.

1677
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 4: Who said this down the street?

1678
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 1: By the way, this was so wild.

1679
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 4: Stephen A.

1680
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 2: Smith, a sports commentator, suggested that this was revenge from

1681
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,759
Speaker 2: the president for all the kind of left wing activism

1682
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 2: of the NBA.

1683
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 3: Your response to that fifteen seconds.

1684
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 8: I'm the FBI director. I decide which arrested conducting which

1685
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 8: not to conduct. That may be the single dumbest thing

1686
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 8: I've ever heard out of anyone in modern history. And

1687
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 8: I live most of my time in Washington, d C.

1688
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 8: It's right up there with Adam Shift. We arrest people

1689
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 8: for crimes.

1690
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 3: Hey, down the street.

1691
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 4: So there you go. I mean, and.

1692
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is this, Steven, you better talk to

1693
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 2: him nice, the way you told Jasmine to talk nice.

1694
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 3: Right.

1695
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 2: You better not clamp back. You better not get you

1696
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 2: better not get ghetto. You better not put on an act.

1697
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 2: You better talk smart. You better be the muir the

1698
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 2: way you want Jasmine to be. I better not hear

1699
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 2: you raising your voice and yelling and shit the way

1700
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 2: that you don't, the way you say Jasmine can't communicate.

1701
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 2: You need to cooperate with this man so you can

1702
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 2: get something.

1703
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 4: Out of him. Remember Remember what you just said, you motherfucker.

1704
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 4: Remember that. Keep that information. Keep that your bitch.

1705
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 3: Learn from him. He could teach you something if you're

1706
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 3: open to hearing it.

1707
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 2: Right. They didn't sing you up there for that at ESPN.

1708
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: I actually did not, So yeah, I think that's Uh.

1709
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 1: He took it to a place and nobody asks for

1710
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, now you're turning this into something that

1711
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: it was never meant to be about.

1712
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 4: Right, did you tell bit?

1713
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 9: Uh?

1714
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 4: Let's see is that? Was there anything else before I

1715
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 4: move on?

1716
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 2: Uh? Okay, yeah, all right, let's go to the next one. Also,

1717
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 2: I know people were making fun of that nothing Burger.

1718
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,759
Speaker 2: Jordan's first appearance was on NBC, but I found myself

1719
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 2: happy to see Mike. He does seem to be in

1720
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 2: bracing his elder statesman role, and I guess I just

1721
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 2: missed him. Thanks for the show, especially the special Saturday edition. Yeah,

1722
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 2: I had to tell you the same thing I told

1723
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:27,799
Speaker 2: that person on my Instagram.

1724
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 4: Get off my dick.

1725
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Michael Jordan's let's just get off his dick. It

1726
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 2: wasn't nothing good about that interview. It's just how much

1727
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:41,719
Speaker 2: we be on his and it was lying through his teeth.

1728
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 2: He cares about that kid.

1729
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 4: I shot.

1730
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 2: I shot that free throw for that I haven't touched

1731
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 2: the ball in five years. I shot that free throw

1732
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:53,560
Speaker 2: for that kid, and of course I made it. I'm like,

1733
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: first of all, you want to believe you care about kids.

1734
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 3: Come on, Mike, and the one story he tells, it's

1735
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 3: the one story. We happen to have video, right, that

1736
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 3: one story, and you know that.

1737
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 2: And you know they edited the video to take out

1738
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 2: the part where he bet the kid is lunch money.

1739
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 1: You know they took that part out. The kid.

1740
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:16,560
Speaker 4: He was like, you want to put you want to

1741
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 4: put five g's on it. I don't have five g's,

1742
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 4: mister Jordan. Well what do you have? I have this

1743
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 4: lunch that we're about to eat.

1744
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll play for your lunch. If I hit this

1745
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 2: free throw, I eat your lunch. Him to shoot it, right,

1746
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 2: where's that at? Well, I'm not no, no, no, I'm

1747
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 2: not saying that to pay him to shoot it. I'm

1748
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 2: saying he gonna bet you some because he don't at

1749
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 2: this point, he not. He never been about the money.

1750
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 2: He want to know what's valuable to you. You be like, oh,

1751
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 2: I just got my new car.

1752
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 4: Shot a free throw for it? What free throw shooting? Nah?

1753
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 4: I just wanted to tell you I like my car.

1754
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:58,879
Speaker 4: Well now it's my car. If I hit this free throw.

1755
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 3: And this this was triggered it. I bet you ain't

1756
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 3: seen my new yet.

1757
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, I think when you be talking to him,

1758
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 2: you were trying to relate to him as a person,

1759
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:14,799
Speaker 2: and you be like, yeah, man, you know I saved

1760
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 2: up all my college years. You know what I'm saying.

1761
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 2: I worked this job, man, I making his mean now

1762
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 2: finally got enough to give me a new Toyota PRIs man.

1763
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 2: You know, so I've been riding the work lately. You

1764
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 2: know I used to take the bus. Hit this free throw,

1765
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,600
Speaker 2: you give it that price. If not, I buy you

1766
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 2: a I buy you a Porsche. I don't know, Mike.

1767
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 2: I can't do that, man, I don't really need that car.

1768
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 2: I buy you a Porsche in the house.

1769
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 3: Can't afford the gas to the porch.

1770
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:48,440
Speaker 1: I can't afford the insurance.

1771
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 2: Not in front of my kid, Mike, come on, don't

1772
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 2: do this, please, all right, the Fireworks says. And I'm joking,

1773
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 2: of course, but I know Mary can take to get

1774
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 2: off the dick joke, unlike that person on my fucking

1775
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 2: Instagram page, how vulgar like? Come on, man, it's a Joe,

1776
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 2: you know Earls Now, damn nigga can't do nothing.

1777
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 4: Fireworks says.

1778
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 2: Every week some bush I predicted that it was gonna

1779
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 2: be some bullshit with like one one interview chopped up

1780
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 2: in the bunch, everybody's like, oh, they're gonna get Mike

1781
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 2: to dude. They comments on every game, Michael Jordan, you

1782
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 2: think they gonna get sat.

1783
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 1: Down with here for a few hours. They're gonna chop

1784
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 1: that ship the entire season, the.

1785
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 4: Way y'all be on his dick, bro, they really had.

1786
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 2: They the only reason they're disappointed, and I'm not, but

1787
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 2: the only reason they're disappointed is because in their minds

1788
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 2: they thought this nigga was finna be like Reggie Miller

1789
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 2: on the broadcast given play by playing Ship. I was like,

1790
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 2: they're gonna talk to this man for one hour, pay

1791
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 2: him a billion dollars, and they gonna chop that ship

1792
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,679
Speaker 2: up and sell it to us like step down Crack

1793
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 2: two minutes every week and like, Mike, what By the end,

1794
01:31:58,360 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 2: it's just gonna be like Mike, what do you think

1795
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 2: about video games? Like they're gonna run out of shit

1796
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:02,719
Speaker 2: to talk to him about.

1797
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 4: He's like, hey, man, hour was up.

1798
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 2: Well, we gotta end this anyway, Love Mike, and shout

1799
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 2: out to NBC and Amazon. They actually are doing something

1800
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 2: that I've been begging the broadcasting to do. They're treating

1801
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 2: the league like it's the NFL. Yes, the broadcast coverage

1802
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 2: has been so much better already, and it just started.

1803
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,759
Speaker 2: You Donna's has them sounded like a different fucking person.

1804
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 2: I've seen him on first take with Steven A and

1805
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 2: it was the most lowest information, dumb ass shit I've

1806
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 2: ever seen. Like it took a point where I was like,

1807
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 2: is ya, Donna's not good at TV? Maybe that's the problem.

1808
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 2: I was like, it's crazy cause he's a twenty year vet.

1809
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 2: But the only thing they cared about was him being

1810
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 2: the o G. It was like, you know, back in

1811
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 2: your day, they would have been fighting right, like they

1812
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 2: were setting them up like that. And to see him

1813
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 2: break down plays and defensive coverages and Ship asked him.

1814
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, he can do that, Well, why

1815
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,799
Speaker 4: the fuck was he not doing that? That's way more interesting.

1816
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 2: Mina cons is so good at TV because she can

1817
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 2: do that. Yes, and yet you get on first take

1818
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 2: they want.

1819
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 4: To know, like, so who you think wants revenge? Aaron

1820
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 4: Rodgers or the Jets? Like that's not really football at

1821
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 4: that point, it's narratives.

1822
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 2: But uh, yes, So I've been enjoying that coverage, all right, Fireworks,

1823
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,600
Speaker 2: Greeting's ride killer Ka and Jamie Jones. Hey, Rod, I

1824
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 2: know you're gonna break this Hall scandal down, but for

1825
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 2: old time's sake, give me that ray Lewis one time?

1826
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 4: All right? Well, he's right, I should have been playing

1827
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 4: it right evil which we call it crime watch how

1828
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 4: much crime picks up if you take away our game?

1829
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 4: Why do you think that would happen?

1830
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 3: There's nothing else to do?

1831
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 2: Sound he says, I do have a few questions, though,

1832
01:33:57,920 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 2: what do you think of the timing of this coming out?

1833
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 2: Right the season started and we get some really good games,

1834
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 2: this scandal really comes and overshadows open the week in

1835
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 2: NBA so far, the okay see Indye rematch has been

1836
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 2: the best game so far to double overtime without Tyrese

1837
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 2: Halliburton and without the white Boy too. Fuck is that

1838
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 2: guy's name McConnell. Without McConnell too, that was that game

1839
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,440
Speaker 2: was crazy And I do have NBA.

1840
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 3: Thoughts for a few minutes of it.

1841
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 2: No, he was out the whole game. He didn't even

1842
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 2: suit up. They did that ship without TJ. McConnell and

1843
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 2: without Halliburton. Hey, but look, I did want to run

1844
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 2: to some quick NBA thoughts, real quick, so far overaction theater,

1845
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 2: you know, of course, I love the Hornets beating the

1846
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 2: ship out of the nets, and everybody's like they the nets.

1847
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 4: I'm okay with that. I just want you all to

1848
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 4: know this, they beat the ship out of them.

1849
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth? With Yeah, Like, it wasn't no

1850
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 1: close game.

1851
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 2: Nobody ever talks about that part of it. They always

1852
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,600
Speaker 2: just be like, look who you beat? It's not just

1853
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 2: who you beat us, how you beat them. I'm not

1854
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 2: optimistic because they beat the nets. That's I mean, that's

1855
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 2: last year, you know, like, oh man, at least we

1856
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 2: gotta win. It was the fact that it was like,

1857
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 2: oh my god, they're up thirty.

1858
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 4: What is happening. They did the same thing the Memphis

1859
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:17,600
Speaker 4: and preseason it was they was up like forty. I

1860
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 4: was like, god, damn. I didn't know it.

1861
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:21,680
Speaker 2: Could be like this me either. I was like, I

1862
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 2: was doing that Meek Mill. I used to pray for

1863
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 2: times like this. Yeah, I'm like our boy me and

1864
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 2: Roger was joking.

1865
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:31,839
Speaker 1: We watched this YouTube channel where the dude like recaps

1866
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 1: like the basketball dunks and highlights.

1867
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the NBA top plays of the week.

1868
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: Yes, and it feels so good to be on the

1869
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: non receiving end like we did.

1870
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 2: Actually the people act actually on the highlight reel, not

1871
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 2: people getting dunked on.

1872
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1873
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 2: Karen was like, we we ain't a lot of these highlights.

1874
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, we scoring right, Like, oh man,

1875
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 2: oh man, look at that hornets dreams are going down

1876
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 2: looking Yes, yeah, I like Canipple and that dude number

1877
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 2: eight we got from Utah.

1878
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 4: I like that boy too, Sexton.

1879
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 2: Yes, hey man, I told y'all Con was was one

1880
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 2: of the ones Dog and I and look I did.

1881
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 4: I was I racist about it? Yes, I'll admit that

1882
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 4: I was openly racist to y'all. I'll let y'all know

1883
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 4: I was being racist, but I was right, Like, you

1884
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 4: can't knock that. I was right.

1885
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:34,600
Speaker 2: They needed the whiteness. They needed some whiteness. It's not

1886
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 2: just kN it's Khan mcneelie and Cork Brenner.

1887
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 4: They needed them white boys. Man Like it was getting

1888
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 4: a little too a little too dark.

1889
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 2: It was a little too and one mixtape okay, And

1890
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 2: if I'm be and if I could toot my own

1891
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 2: horn some more.

1892
01:36:57,880 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 4: Because you know, I love to.

1893
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 2: I think I was right about Ace Bailey too, though.

1894
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 2: Remember how I was like everything he doing, everything he

1895
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 2: doing to get away from this team, make me think

1896
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 2: he gonna be one of them ones. Because I was like, yeah,

1897
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 2: it's he's acted like this, the kind of story you

1898
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 2: have later on in life and then you look back

1899
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 2: and be like, we should have known he was great.

1900
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 2: Why didn't SO and so draft him? Why didn't Blank

1901
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 2: draft him? Because when they was like Kobe wouldn't work

1902
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 2: out for the Hornet, so they traded him.

1903
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 4: And I was like, that's why you.

1904
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,680
Speaker 1: Keep on, That's why put like this. When that man

1905
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 1: from LA call you, you hang the phone up, don't

1906
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: talk to him.

1907
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 4: Jerry West, I don't think it was Jail West at

1908
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 4: the time.

1909
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 1: Yes, you hang that bitch up.

1910
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 3: Whatever it is.

1911
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 1: So we got a diamond.

1912
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 2: So A's Bailey was making them kind of moves that

1913
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 2: felt to me like, hey, if he's a star ten

1914
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 2: twenty years from now, we look back and be like

1915
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:51,520
Speaker 2: everyone passed.

1916
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 4: On this guy.

1917
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 2: Why he was He was clearly the best player in

1918
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 2: the offense that anyway, he looks great and already as

1919
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 2: a rookie. Now that team is the Jazz, So I

1920
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 2: don't I don't know what's going Like I like, they

1921
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:10,640
Speaker 2: seem like they want a tank every year, and I

1922
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 2: don't understand either. I truly don't understand how it's gonna

1923
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 2: work because you're getting good picks and you're just gonna

1924
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,640
Speaker 2: keep running them over and over and and like the

1925
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:26,719
Speaker 2: team doesn't have to tank, meaning Marketing is a good player.

1926
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 2: So are y'all gonna kneecap the team? Halfway through the

1927
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 2: season and trade that nigga instead of letting the Ace

1928
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 2: build a rapport with him, and three four years from now,

1929
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 2: we're looking up like Yo Jazz.

1930
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 4: Built him something. Anyway. Uh that's but that wasn't one

1931
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:40,679
Speaker 4: of my thoughts.

1932
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 2: Okay, see, okay, see he's gonna get everyone's best shot

1933
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 2: this year. I don't think they did that like I

1934
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 2: think last year before the championship, people were competitive with them,

1935
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:54,560
Speaker 2: but they weren't looking at them like they are a

1936
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 2: championship team and when they come to our town, we're

1937
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 2: not gonna just lay down for these niggas.

1938
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 4: We're gonna give them our best ship.

1939
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 1: First two games, double over, double over time on both

1940
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 1: of them benches.

1941
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 2: Houston played like they had something to prove against them,

1942
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 2: and the Pacers did too, And both of those teams

1943
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 2: really are teams that if on paper, I would have

1944
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 2: been like, yeah, they not even gonna really be in

1945
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 2: these games. Houston don't have a point guard, and that

1946
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 2: whole give give Kevin Degall and move out the way.

1947
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 2: Shit feels like it would have been the business three

1948
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 2: years ago, But at thirty seven, y'all need to point guard.

1949
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 3: I don't know fam they giving him the ball. They

1950
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 3: also not giving him the ball. They also like, last

1951
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 3: year we won by whoever wanted to take it. We're

1952
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 3: gonna stick with that. That's what we're doing this year too.

1953
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 4: Well.

1954
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 2: I so it's only we overreacting, of course to one game.

1955
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 2: But I gotta say that's not how I read it.

1956
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 2: I saw they did do that. The first couple of

1957
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 2: the first end the regulation and first overtime. They was like,

1958
01:39:59,040 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 2: give Kevin the ball.

1959
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 4: It's a close game. He gonna do something.

1960
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 2: And somewhere in the middle of that second when I

1961
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 2: was like this, nigga ain't doing ship, Like hey.

1962
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 4: I could do that.

1963
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 6: I only saw him do that like once or twice

1964
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:16,680
Speaker 6: at like the last five minutes of that game. It

1965
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 6: was closest normally like get out the way, get Kevin

1966
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 6: the ball, like you said.

1967
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying, right right, I'm seeing him

1968
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 4: like we got it. I'm saying though.

1969
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 2: They was like justin, justin, I'm saying, before you got

1970
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 2: because it was a close game the whole fourth, right,

1971
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 2: I'm saying, there was so many plays with opportunities where

1972
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 2: they gave him the ball and they did not get buckets.

1973
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:42,920
Speaker 4: And I think they just turn over.

1974
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 2: I think at some point them boys is like, hey man,

1975
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 2: fuck all that. You know what I'm saying, because it

1976
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 2: wasn't working, like so like.

1977
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 4: You that you don't have Yeah, that was crazy that.

1978
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:00,879
Speaker 1: I can't believe that shit slides.

1979
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, anyway, I say all that to say, like,

1980
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,599
Speaker 2: I think the Houston thing is gonna be a bit

1981
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 2: of a struggle because I actually think not having a

1982
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:12,000
Speaker 2: point guard is a much bigger deal than a lot

1983
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 2: of people in the NBA want to say.

1984
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 4: And and that like thumbs up ship.

1985
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 2: That they trying to do for Reid Shepherd with the

1986
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 2: whole like, hey man, he's not playing bad for a guy,

1987
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 2: it's not really a point guard.

1988
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah that's cute. Let's see what y'all think about that.

1989
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,559
Speaker 1: In may Ah and that dude, that's that white boy,

1990
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 1: he's so slow coming up the court. He got stolen

1991
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 1: so many times, like.

1992
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 4: Because you see, not a point guard.

1993
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 2: No, they got him playing out of position because that

1994
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,680
Speaker 2: point guard is out for the season because he towards Achilles.

1995
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 2: So they don't have a choice and they don't have money,

1996
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:40,719
Speaker 2: so they can't they couldn't afford to get a point guard,

1997
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 2: and they really can't trade. I think the way that

1998
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:48,640
Speaker 2: Sally cap is they like can't trade and bring in

1999
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 2: more money than they put out or something. I can't

2000
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 2: I can't remember how their shit is. I think they're

2001
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 2: gonna have to make a trade. Actually, I am a

2002
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 2: little nervous because I and I hope it don't happen,

2003
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 2: but I think, uh, Colin Sexton is gonna be on

2004
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 2: a lot of people's trade target list this year.

2005
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:09,560
Speaker 3: Like, if you're Houston guard the Hornets.

2006
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:12,760
Speaker 2: Right, and if you're Houston and the Hornet, I mean,

2007
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 2: hopefully the Hornets are doing great all season, and they

2008
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 2: just are, and it's just real difficult for them to

2009
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 2: even consider partnering with him. But if you're Houston, you're

2010
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:25,280
Speaker 2: not looking around at Colin Sextons, who's on the expiring contract,

2011
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 2: and being like, what do we gotta do to get

2012
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 2: this guy on our roster. He doesn't cost that much

2013
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,639
Speaker 2: and we just send them something and we get him,

2014
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 2: and now we got a point guard and we can

2015
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 2: take Kevin Durant and these guys and try to make

2016
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 2: a run to the playoffs. I'm worried about that because

2017
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 2: I think Colin lost.

2018
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 4: I love that dude.

2019
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:45,679
Speaker 2: I don't want to give him up, and I hope

2020
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 2: we're doing good enough in January that we're like, man,

2021
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 2: fuck that, we we want them.

2022
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:52,599
Speaker 4: We want to run and make it to the playoffs.

2023
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 1: I hope run the smallest people out there. He'd be

2024
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 1: taking the foules, he be going to the paint. They

2025
01:42:57,439 --> 01:42:59,559
Speaker 1: be beating his ass. He shake that shit off up,

2026
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:00,160
Speaker 1: like let's go.

2027
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, I think you got to keep them anyway,

2028
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 6: because we stay getting injured, and so by keeping them,

2029
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 6: you you hopefully don't lose much when.

2030
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 4: Someone's right, That's what I'm saying.

2031
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 3: When we had Kimball, Yeah.

2032
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. But uh, I think you also

2033
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 4: got trade man now.

2034
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 2: Like it's just they got kJ Simpson still, Like, I'm

2035
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 2: not saying I would want it to have. I'm saying

2036
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 2: this is the kind of thing that if you're in

2037
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 2: January and you have only won let's say twelve games,

2038
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 2: do you look at your roster and be like, hey, man,

2039
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 2: everybody for sale. Best big come through and people like

2040
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:45,639
Speaker 2: Houston are like, hey, we'll give up something like give

2041
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 2: us one of them guards.

2042
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 4: You know, I'm hoping anyway, knock on wood.

2043
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 6: To answer Jackie's question, maybe Michael Jordan would have when

2044
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 6: he was the owner who knows.

2045
01:43:58,040 --> 01:43:59,559
Speaker 3: Traded traded calling away.

2046
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 2: Oh no, actually actually justin the new ownership is much

2047
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 2: more likely to do that than Jordan would. They way

2048
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:10,640
Speaker 2: way more savvy than him. Yeah, no, I'm telling you,

2049
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. They are way more savvy. Like they

2050
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 2: the type to be like, let's reach out to Houston,

2051
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 2: Like that's how they be on some next level shit,

2052
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:19,600
Speaker 2: they be.

2053
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:22,679
Speaker 4: Looking at other this then I love it here cause

2054
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 4: like Jordan was opposite.

2055
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 2: It was like, how can I pay my people as

2056
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 2: little as possible so I can make a profit from

2057
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 2: this business every year? Which is not what basketball team

2058
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 2: is supposed to do. He's supposed to lose money and

2059
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 2: then sell the team for a profit. That ain't He

2060
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 2: was like, I want to make money every year even

2061
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 2: when we fucking are playing the season. And so he

2062
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,600
Speaker 2: wasn't bringing in a lot of big money names and

2063
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 2: contracts except for Gordon Hayward.

2064
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 4: And I think he did that because Gordon hay was white.

2065
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 2: But in this case, I think, if things are going bad,

2066
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 2: and I'm hoping they won't be, but I'm thinking obviously,

2067
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:03,360
Speaker 2: like just to consider this point for Houston, I'm thinking

2068
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 2: from their perspective and things are going bad, I think

2069
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 2: we're definitely on a lot of people's list of like, hey,

2070
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 2: let's get some of the people.

2071
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:13,640
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Phoenix did this last year.

2072
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 2: They ended up with both our senters, like and our

2073
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 2: team is the type of like these new owners didn't

2074
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 2: draft these niggas. They're like, hey, all right, the peace.

2075
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:25,640
Speaker 2: You know, Hey it's been a real player. Hey, good

2076
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:27,640
Speaker 2: luck out there. You know, it's a business, you know.

2077
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 2: So anyway, all that to say, Houston needs a point guard.

2078
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 2: If if I'm Houston, I'm keeping an eye out on

2079
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 2: the whole market every team that got an extra guy, like,

2080
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:39,679
Speaker 2: because I don't.

2081
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 4: Think this team is gonna win this way and read Shepherd,

2082
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be ready by.

2083
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 2: Dallas will have Kyrie returning at some point so they

2084
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 2: can hold out if they if they can tread water,

2085
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 2: they'll try to tread water. But yeah, they definitely need one.

2086
01:45:57,320 --> 01:45:59,759
Speaker 2: D'Angelo Russell is not a point guard.

2087
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:00,680
Speaker 6: He is not.

2088
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 2: And that ship they doing with Cooper Flag is giving

2089
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 2: me the same it I had about Devin Booker playing point.

2090
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 4: I don't like that shit, you know, point guard respect

2091
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 4: point guards. Man, it's a real position for a reason.

2092
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 4: They could have used Chris Paul if we're being honest. Okay,

2093
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:18,560
Speaker 4: so who would I do?

2094
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:21,640
Speaker 2: Okay Houston, Okay, see it's getting everybody's best shot, but

2095
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:22,799
Speaker 2: still the best team.

2096
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 6: La.

2097
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 4: I can't to be determined.

2098
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 2: Lebron need to come back before we can even be

2099
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 2: before we can discuss anything.

2100
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 4: Lebron need to come back.

2101
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 2: Luca, of course is gonna like MVP level season, probably

2102
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:41,680
Speaker 2: revenge season. But if we're talking about championships, I just

2103
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,759
Speaker 2: need to see what he looked like with Lebron.

2104
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 4: And I don't think it's like people keep bringing up.

2105
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 2: Lebron being old in his defense, I think all that shit, Okay,

2106
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 2: we'll see, Like I don't. We don't say that about

2107
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 2: any of these other old niggas. I don't know why

2108
01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 2: we Because he used to be an elite defender, we

2109
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 2: make it seem like he that's a problem that he's

2110
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 2: not anymore. But I'm like, are we saying that about

2111
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 2: Steph Curry's not even on the fucking court when it's

2112
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 2: defensive possessions at the.

2113
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:08,679
Speaker 4: End of games?

2114
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 2: Are we saying that about kd old Ass? Are we

2115
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 2: saying that about any of the Clippers, Like, I just

2116
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 2: think that's kind of an overstated thing. What we really

2117
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 2: need to see is can that team play well together,

2118
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 2: which I think they can because they were doing it

2119
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 2: last year. Because what we saw last year was I

2120
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 2: think a Luca that was a bit disheveled. Yes, and

2121
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 2: Lebron come together and win a bunch of games after

2122
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 2: the trade and then injuries took him down. If they

2123
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 2: can stay healthy and play like that, I think they

2124
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 2: have as much a shot against any of.

2125
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:42,920
Speaker 4: These other motherfuckers as the other teams.

2126
01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 2: The thing everybody has to realize, especially in the West,

2127
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 2: you're all just playing to get lucky. You have to

2128
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 2: have as much luck as possible because if we just

2129
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:59,680
Speaker 2: go to paper, okay, see got everybody, So you just

2130
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:02,679
Speaker 2: need to keep playing. Hope that like shape twisted ankle.

2131
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 2: Hope that you know, uh, somebody gets ht. Hope that

2132
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 2: you know, uh, someone goes through.

2133
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 3: A coach start giving him calls.

2134
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah that that's not gonna happen, but yeah, you gotta,

2135
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 2: but you gotta hope, you gotta. Everyone's playing for second

2136
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 2: in my opinion, Yes, okay, so that's the Lakers.

2137
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:24,880
Speaker 6: We did talk about Dallas briefly. Briefly, can we also

2138
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 6: talk about Anthony Davis and the fact that it's supposed

2139
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 6: to be his time to be like this my team,

2140
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 6: I can carry a team, and Lebron was the one

2141
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 6: holding me back. And it's showing, like is why Lebron

2142
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 6: could never just fully give you the keys to the

2143
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:40,480
Speaker 6: kingdom because.

2144
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:43,760
Speaker 4: No, no, we can't. Oh no, we can't talk about that.

2145
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 2: That's a Lakers take that you're bringing over from some

2146
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 2: Lakers bitterness.

2147
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 4: That's not real. Nobody else is talking about that. You

2148
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 4: make that up. That's not a talking point for anyone else.

2149
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 4: Nobody has said this is the year for ad to

2150
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 4: shrew that Lebron held him back.

2151
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 3: We see it, I see it.

2152
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 4: He who said it? Who said it? Justin Marry the

2153
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 4: only one listening.

2154
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 2: Friends, Get that propaganda out of here, man, Get that

2155
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 2: propaganda out of here.

2156
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:20,679
Speaker 4: Man. Stop stopping with the stop with the propaganda.

2157
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 3: Saying this was just time to be that guy. Everybody

2158
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 3: kept saying.

2159
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 4: Lebron, nobody nobody said that.

2160
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 3: Nobody said and then Lebron traded him.

2161
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 2: Start with the lies. Man, nobody's talking like that. But

2162
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 2: you bring up another interesting point that a team.

2163
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 4: I do want to talk about. Hey man, this nigga Wimby.

2164
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 3: Bro Oh what game?

2165
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 1: He was a highlight? Real, wouldn't it?

2166
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:59,040
Speaker 4: I told me and me and on game Theory. It

2167
01:49:59,200 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 4: was fun.

2168
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 2: It was a in joke, Me and Bomoni and a

2169
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 2: lot of people. We was all in on Wimby right away,

2170
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 2: Like as soon as we first heard of him. It's

2171
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 2: seen a couple of highlights. Its like, oh God, this.

2172
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:11,920
Speaker 4: Guy's coming to the NBA. Oh my god.

2173
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 2: Like the like we kept showing the highlight where he

2174
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 2: like shot at three but then got his own put

2175
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 2: back inducted from the free.

2176
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 4: Throw line, Like he's so quick to be so tall.

2177
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 4: I was like, what is anyone supposed to do about that?

2178
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 2: Right? Like, there's not a there's no defense in the

2179
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 2: world that can stop way he just did right And

2180
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 2: uh said, who's a Dallas Mavericks fan was like, man,

2181
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 2: he ain't even gonna be good.

2182
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,919
Speaker 4: We've seen this before. He just gonna be Alexis Ajinka.

2183
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 4: He gonna be Bowl Bowl.

2184
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:44,719
Speaker 2: And we was like, nigga, you can't see the difference

2185
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 2: between that and Bowl Bow. I'm like, look at how

2186
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:49,679
Speaker 2: he put the ball on the ground.

2187
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 4: Look at him.

2188
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 2: Look at how he blocked shots, and he like the

2189
01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 2: coordination not just tall, right, Yeah, you could just tell

2190
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,559
Speaker 2: certain people you're like, yeah, he looked like he'd been

2191
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:01,680
Speaker 2: playing fucking shooting guardist life and then got a two

2192
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 2: foot gross spurt. They kept and somehow kept his coordination,

2193
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 2: which is two things that never happened to people. Right,

2194
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 2: So he was shipping on the right, and so me

2195
01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 2: and Bomani was like, everybody need to get.

2196
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 4: Their ship before he come.

2197
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 2: But like, just get whatever you could get, get your ring,

2198
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 2: get your MVP, because when he figures it out, I'm

2199
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 2: for the foreseeable future, the numbers are just gonna be

2200
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 2: so crazy that it's not You're not gonna be able

2201
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 2: to just give MVP to other people anymore because people

2202
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 2: gonna it's gonna be too blatant.

2203
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 4: Where people are like, so you're.

2204
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 2: Telling me he averaging thirty twelve and eight blocks and

2205
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 2: he not the MVP.

2206
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 4: It wouldn't even matter what the fucking record of the

2207
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 4: team is. At that point. People are like, that's the MV.

2208
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 4: That's just an MVP, and we just there's nothing to discuss.

2209
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:57,680
Speaker 3: You're watching the game right outside of my.

2210
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 2: Eyes, right, But also but but, but for the record,

2211
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 2: also the numbers, like like in addition to not even

2212
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:10,080
Speaker 2: just outside the numbers, in addition to the numbers, because

2213
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 2: being that tall and that mobile, the numbers.

2214
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:16,639
Speaker 4: Are gonna pile up just just because you're out there.

2215
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 4: Right then you go to what you just said, the

2216
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 4: ode test and Nigga a seven footer who learned recently

2217
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:29,240
Speaker 4: to dunk hard, which was to me my only problem

2218
01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 4: with him, my only problem with him the first two years.

2219
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:35,040
Speaker 2: And I wasn't blaming him, like I was just like, oh,

2220
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 2: he's not ready yet because he's shooting a lot of

2221
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 2: threes and maybe I'm just a black American.

2222
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:46,679
Speaker 4: His dunks were swaggerless, and I don't do that. I don't.

2223
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:50,599
Speaker 4: I don't. I'm not down with that. Like when you're

2224
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:57,640
Speaker 4: that tall, I need you to be dunking. Yeah, like

2225
01:52:57,760 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 4: you said, the highlights, Yeah.

2226
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 3: What used to be on us? You know now you're

2227
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:04,480
Speaker 3: looking at the hotlights.

2228
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:11,320
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he's last couple of years, last couple of years,

2229
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 2: he was doing a lot of business casual dunks.

2230
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:18,320
Speaker 4: What you're saying, And I like, I like, I'm not

2231
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 4: going up for you.

2232
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 2: If you business casual dunking, bro, I'm sorry, but that's

2233
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:23,719
Speaker 2: not That's not how I'm built.

2234
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,680
Speaker 4: I would be lying. I would be lying if I like, I.

2235
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 2: Can give you credit for having like a good game,

2236
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 2: but I can't be calling you my favorite. And Ship

2237
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 2: this year he was out there slamming on people.

2238
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 1: Reverse versus nasty.

2239
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 2: Even that first dunky got there was like a kind

2240
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 2: of a women. It was the way he dunked it

2241
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 2: hard for.

2242
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 4: Me, like he was like.

2243
01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 1: I was like, oh you met that baby.

2244
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 3: That's the difference between the weight room with and.

2245
01:53:57,080 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 2: I would work out, but Jack Justine beyond beyond weight room, right,

2246
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 2: but beyond weight room. Nigga went to see them shouting monks.

2247
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:09,840
Speaker 2: He did, he went to see the monks. But I

2248
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 2: remember seeing that picture of him with the ball head

2249
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 2: this summer.

2250
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 1: That that Nigga got zen.

2251
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:17,040
Speaker 4: He had the ball head and he looked like he

2252
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,879
Speaker 4: was up there with Doctor Strange doing them circles.

2253
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 1: Come on through with the universe.

2254
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:26,640
Speaker 4: I said, oh, Ship, he might be one of them

2255
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 4: different guys like this.

2256
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:31,960
Speaker 2: We haven't had an eccentric guy like this in a minute,

2257
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 2: Like we've had cool guys like Anthony Edwards, but like

2258
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 2: he's given me that like eccentric thing. And he said

2259
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 2: he went up there to learn kung fu, how to

2260
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 2: use his body to like get through pain and punishment

2261
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:44,160
Speaker 2: and physicality.

2262
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 4: And the first dunky got oh you think of Kareem kare.

2263
01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 2: Yes since the Game of Death and so hey, look, hey, bro,

2264
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 2: the first dunk he got, I said, oh, he been

2265
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 2: up there with the goddamn monks because.

2266
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 4: It was physical. It wasn't like they just let him dunk.

2267
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 4: They tried to bang him. And he was like, get

2268
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 4: the fuck oh. I was like ooh ooh, because because

2269
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 4: that's the other thing.

2270
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 2: When you dunk with swag, it's a warning to everybody,

2271
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:20,520
Speaker 2: like hey, I will put you on a fucking poster.

2272
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 2: And he blocking like crazy too, right, he was already

2273
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:25,520
Speaker 2: doing that. He was gonna be defensive player of the

2274
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 2: Year if he didn't get hurt last year with that

2275
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 2: blood clot.

2276
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 4: But I'm saying and.

2277
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:34,000
Speaker 6: Doing it against somebody like a d who people would

2278
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 6: say he's a good defender.

2279
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,440
Speaker 4: You brought it to so you brought it to the

2280
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:38,320
Speaker 4: last point.

2281
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 2: And I heard Nick Wright make this point, and this

2282
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 2: is why I said, going out for a D you

2283
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 2: made me think of him. I would say a D

2284
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 2: is the best defender in the league to stop Winby.

2285
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 2: If we was all putting bets on who should who

2286
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 2: you would let check him, who you think is shut

2287
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 2: him down, who you think is slow him down? It's

2288
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:57,840
Speaker 2: a D right.

2289
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 6: Only because Joel will be an agenda. I was about

2290
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:10,800
Speaker 6: to say Al Horford. However, however, Joel has proved himself

2291
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 6: to be not worthy adversary of Al.

2292
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 3: But I think get your old ass retirement.

2293
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah no, I mean yeah, like that. That's hilarious as

2294
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 4: a joke.

2295
01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 2: But if we're being honest, if a D can't stop him,

2296
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:33,920
Speaker 2: Al can't do shit like it's over. It's fucking over, dude,

2297
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 2: I like, because that's the other thing I would I

2298
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 2: don't feel comfortable putting no other center on him. If

2299
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 2: there is a good defensive center like Jared Allen, he

2300
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 2: will take him outside, give him that work, put that

2301
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 2: ball on.

2302
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 4: The ground and dunk on his ass. Right, So that's

2303
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 4: a rap a D. We saw what he did to

2304
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 4: a D forty five and fifteen, like it was nothing.

2305
01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 3: You can't even put Kevin on them. You can't put yeah, well.

2306
01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 4: Durant, oh, Durant, look no offense to Durant, But he

2307
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,720
Speaker 4: thirty seven. Yeah, he thirty seven. Even in his prime,

2308
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 4: he couldn't have did hit, but thirty seven. It's a rap.

2309
01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:18,360
Speaker 2: Sengoon and Sabonis are not great defensive players, and they

2310
01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:20,480
Speaker 2: definitely can't move outside like he can.

2311
01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:21,960
Speaker 4: Don't. Don't forget.

2312
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:24,800
Speaker 2: Also they win and got coordinat and so they so

2313
01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 2: they don't even have to play when be at center.

2314
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 4: They can put him on your four.

2315
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 6: Bright and you can't put a Steven Adams who like, well,

2316
01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 6: we're just gonna muscle him around.

2317
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 3: We used to, No, that doesn't work no more.

2318
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 2: And they still got Dylan Harper, Harper and Stephan Castle

2319
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 2: like so he just a part of the problems you

2320
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:47,080
Speaker 2: have to deal with.

2321
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:49,840
Speaker 4: This is the year for me.

2322
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:52,840
Speaker 6: Given him the ball too. They've given him the ball

2323
01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 6: too before. They used to look away before he would

2324
01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 6: pass it back and like no ball.

2325
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is this is this is for this

2326
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:08,960
Speaker 4: is for me.

2327
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 2: Now now we do have to put some expectations, because

2328
01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:18,120
Speaker 2: I think he's he's demanded those expectations. I think in

2329
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 2: the last two years we kind of was like, oh,

2330
01:58:19,960 --> 01:58:22,760
Speaker 2: it's a cute, cute little side story.

2331
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:25,920
Speaker 3: This is fun here, this is fun. He get another

2332
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 3: fun yer.

2333
01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 4: This year, he can get here.

2334
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he can get to find you.

2335
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 2: This wait, hold on, hold on, hold on now, I

2336
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 2: just want to So if they win nineteen games this

2337
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:37,320
Speaker 2: year like they did last year or whatever, you just

2338
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:40,920
Speaker 2: gonna be like, yeah, he's still one of the greatest players,

2339
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 2: but they just because I don't I think. I think

2340
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:45,320
Speaker 2: you're talking like that. But I think by the end

2341
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:48,320
Speaker 2: of if we have a full year, I think all

2342
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 2: of us are. We would be lying if we weren't, like,

2343
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:54,000
Speaker 2: this looks like a playoff team. If not a play

2344
01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:57,240
Speaker 2: this is like a playing team at minimum, playoff team

2345
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:57,720
Speaker 2: at best.

2346
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 3: I disagree. Here's why though, too.

2347
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 6: Even in the beginning when he came, I was like,

2348
01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:09,400
Speaker 6: he's gonna be great, but they're not gonna win because

2349
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 6: of all the other factors around to it. And so

2350
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 6: for me it's like he's improved his greatness. But even

2351
01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:17,960
Speaker 6: if they don't win, I don't think it's because of him.

2352
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:18,440
Speaker 4: I don't.

2353
01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:23,839
Speaker 3: There's some teams and some things Sometimes it don't matter.

2354
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 6: How great you are. You're just not gonna carry your team.

2355
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 6: But so far and whether he win or bunch go ahead, no.

2356
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:34,160
Speaker 1: And that part I understand. But he's been he's at

2357
01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:36,880
Speaker 1: he's at that that that that point where he's been

2358
01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:40,600
Speaker 1: in the league long enough that now the people now

2359
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 1: the expectation changes where they're gonna be like, we don't

2360
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 1: give a fuck you the Star and you don't need

2361
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:48,440
Speaker 1: to drag these niggas to the playing They.

2362
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:54,880
Speaker 2: Won thirty four games last year and they finished thirteenth

2363
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 2: in the Western.

2364
01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:57,560
Speaker 1: Conference, and it might not even be his fault.

2365
01:59:57,600 --> 01:59:57,840
Speaker 3: But I.

2366
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:01,080
Speaker 4: Like, honestly, I.

2367
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:07,000
Speaker 2: Think if you are okay with that, again, you're kind

2368
02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:10,160
Speaker 2: of saying you don't expect them to be great. And

2369
02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:13,080
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this. I'm not talking about being fair.

2370
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:17,280
Speaker 2: I'm talking about just being honest, like, this is the

2371
02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:20,600
Speaker 2: pressure of greatness. Lebron experienced this and he surpassed a

2372
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:23,800
Speaker 2: lot of people's expectations. We was like, oh, he's one

2373
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:28,160
Speaker 2: of them one we thought he was good. Uh, he's

2374
02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:32,600
Speaker 2: already taking these bums to the playoffs. Good nigga, we

2375
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:36,720
Speaker 2: expect you're gonna be one of these goats. I think

2376
02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:39,760
Speaker 2: three years into Wimby, if he's healthy.

2377
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:42,200
Speaker 4: The whole year, obviously that's the biggest caveat.

2378
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:44,560
Speaker 2: Because if he's not healthy, I'm not then this another

2379
02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 2: fun year that's fine, Yes, if he's healthy the whole year,

2380
02:00:48,920 --> 02:00:51,360
Speaker 2: because they don't even that's the other thing. They don't

2381
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:56,920
Speaker 2: even have Darren Fox back yet. They've invested in this team.

2382
02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 2: If they're not a playoff team, I think you're gonna

2383
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 2: see major changes.

2384
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:04,879
Speaker 4: Like I'm talking coaches.

2385
02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:06,760
Speaker 3: You might see a new coach.

2386
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, you gonna I'm talking coaches. I'm talking no,

2387
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm talking trades. I This shit is serious, bro, I

2388
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 2: unless maybe you don't think he's as good as I

2389
02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 2: think he is.

2390
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:21,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying this is this is.

2391
02:01:21,080 --> 02:01:23,960
Speaker 2: Some he skipped a pupple steps on y'all, niggas, and

2392
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:27,480
Speaker 2: y'all when y'all weren't looking like he's already ready and

2393
02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 2: we're sitting up here being like, yeah, well, you know,

2394
02:01:30,120 --> 02:01:33,520
Speaker 2: on a different person trajectory of like year five, I'm like, yeah,

2395
02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:35,360
Speaker 2: I think he's skipped past year five.

2396
02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:38,360
Speaker 4: He's like year six type niggas already and he's only

2397
02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:40,520
Speaker 4: in year three. That's what I'm forty.

2398
02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 2: Five fifteen and no turnovers. And to ad is like, so,

2399
02:01:45,800 --> 02:01:47,800
Speaker 2: then what the rest of y'all nigga's gonna do? Cause

2400
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:50,960
Speaker 2: if that was the plan, Like.

2401
02:01:52,960 --> 02:01:56,840
Speaker 6: But it's also a flaw Dallas team, Like there's some

2402
02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:59,840
Speaker 6: other things that's like, did that team look.

2403
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:02,200
Speaker 2: Did that team, Let's be honest, did that team you

2404
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 2: look at Kyrie irving away from beating them to you,

2405
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:06,760
Speaker 2: because they did not look like that.

2406
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:08,640
Speaker 4: To me, they looked like they would beat them if

2407
02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:10,240
Speaker 4: they played them eighty one times.

2408
02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:14,920
Speaker 2: The furs is gonna beat them eighty times, like like

2409
02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 2: maybe one of them times when we would sit out

2410
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:19,280
Speaker 2: because they already he was like, Oh, it's a back

2411
02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:22,360
Speaker 2: to back as long as that dude's on the court.

2412
02:02:22,440 --> 02:02:24,160
Speaker 4: It just looked like it was hopeless to me.

2413
02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:26,680
Speaker 1: I hear you.

2414
02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:31,840
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I'm the expectation of what you're saying.

2415
02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:35,880
Speaker 4: Maybe, yeah, top me down, top me down. Look, I

2416
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:37,160
Speaker 4: told you I'm overreacting.

2417
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:41,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, if they don't do it, then I'm also like,

2418
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:44,040
Speaker 6: it's this man third year in the league, and while

2419
02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:47,680
Speaker 6: he is an alien in Okay.

2420
02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:49,280
Speaker 2: I think I think I see what I think I

2421
02:02:49,360 --> 02:02:51,000
Speaker 2: see what you're saying. I think I see where to

2422
02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:51,640
Speaker 2: disconnect this.

2423
02:02:52,280 --> 02:02:53,520
Speaker 4: You think hold on, hold on.

2424
02:02:53,680 --> 02:02:57,840
Speaker 2: I think you think you think I'm saying I'm gonna

2425
02:02:57,880 --> 02:03:02,400
Speaker 2: be hard on them. I'm saying, and the the media

2426
02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:04,000
Speaker 2: is going to be hard on him.

2427
02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:06,160
Speaker 4: Now, this is not like before.

2428
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:07,880
Speaker 1: He's too good.

2429
02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:10,400
Speaker 4: Like, yes, like I'm the biggest Lebron fan.

2430
02:03:10,480 --> 02:03:12,720
Speaker 1: You know, expectations are going to go high because of

2431
02:03:12,720 --> 02:03:13,960
Speaker 1: the numbers that he's putting now.

2432
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:17,280
Speaker 2: And you know, I've been like, yeah, the media was

2433
02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:19,320
Speaker 2: not fair to Lebron coming up, but I was like,

2434
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:20,480
Speaker 2: that's what greatness is.

2435
02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:21,800
Speaker 4: Greatness looked like that.

2436
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:24,720
Speaker 2: It looked like he's averaging the trouble double and y'all

2437
02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:26,520
Speaker 2: still like, but he ain't get out the second round.

2438
02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, but that's when that's when that's when you

2439
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:33,680
Speaker 2: know you're great, because because anybody else would have been like, wow,

2440
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 2: that's amazing.

2441
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:36,000
Speaker 4: He got this team to the playoffs and he was

2442
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:37,280
Speaker 4: on the three ers in the league.

2443
02:03:38,160 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 2: But when you great, they'd be like, that's it, And

2444
02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:44,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, without what i've seen from winby, y'all said,

2445
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:46,880
Speaker 2: oh no, we're not going to be able to handle

2446
02:03:46,920 --> 02:03:49,920
Speaker 2: this with no reason and rational expectations.

2447
02:03:50,000 --> 02:03:51,920
Speaker 1: We are going to be The demands are going to

2448
02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:54,160
Speaker 1: change for the for the populace and for the media.

2449
02:03:54,320 --> 02:03:58,080
Speaker 4: And the thing is, he's so good. I can't say

2450
02:03:58,240 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 4: they're wrong in that.

2451
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:02,960
Speaker 2: If if you told me they made the playoffs and

2452
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:04,720
Speaker 2: they were matched up against.

2453
02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:08,200
Speaker 4: Say Woody Gobert in the in the Wolves, I was like, they.

2454
02:04:08,200 --> 02:04:11,800
Speaker 1: Might beat them, Yes, was the bottom seed.

2455
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:12,840
Speaker 4: I was like, they still might be.

2456
02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:15,240
Speaker 2: I don't have it in me to be like they

2457
02:04:15,320 --> 02:04:18,080
Speaker 2: can't beat them, right, because what I've seen so far

2458
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:21,040
Speaker 2: without the Aaron Fox, by the way, has been like

2459
02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:24,600
Speaker 2: I don't know who can beat them at all, Like

2460
02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:28,040
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder, probably right, because I would say from

2461
02:04:28,080 --> 02:04:30,240
Speaker 2: top to bottom, they but.

2462
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:40,160
Speaker 3: Showing up for that game, like y'all, y'all, y'all disrespect me.

2463
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:46,080
Speaker 4: And what I did. Hey man, hey, hey, I need

2464
02:04:46,200 --> 02:04:49,720
Speaker 4: to see them games all four. I need them. I

2465
02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 4: need that Chat versus.

2466
02:04:54,120 --> 02:04:57,240
Speaker 2: Chat versus Winby because look, it's either it's either gonna

2467
02:04:57,280 --> 02:05:00,640
Speaker 2: be wow Chat did better against women then we thought,

2468
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:03,600
Speaker 2: or it's gonna be Whenby put this nigga in a blender.

2469
02:05:03,720 --> 02:05:07,760
Speaker 2: Both of those are just as entertaining me. Like because

2470
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:08,839
Speaker 2: women got put.

2471
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:13,480
Speaker 3: For the SGAU, That's what I'm saying.

2472
02:05:13,600 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if you would have like, if you were

2473
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:17,920
Speaker 2: to tell me this, they can't beat the Thunder, I

2474
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:21,720
Speaker 2: think I Like, I'm not trying to be crazy. I

2475
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:24,680
Speaker 2: would totally be like Yeah, that's fair that Thunder should

2476
02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:28,040
Speaker 2: definitely be favored in a seven game, right, But if

2477
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 2: you just saying, like, uh, I'm supposed to pick any

2478
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 2: of these other teams over the Spurs right now, I

2479
02:05:34,760 --> 02:05:36,400
Speaker 2: don't see why I would do that.

2480
02:05:36,600 --> 02:05:38,000
Speaker 4: I really don't. I don't.

2481
02:05:38,120 --> 02:05:40,200
Speaker 2: I have not seen the Nigga elevate his play like

2482
02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:44,080
Speaker 2: this in a minute. They barely beat the Pelicans. They

2483
02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:49,160
Speaker 2: went the overtime winby had twenty nine eleven and nine blocks.

2484
02:05:50,920 --> 02:05:54,120
Speaker 4: He found out it overtime. He had nine blocks. Do

2485
02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:56,760
Speaker 4: y'all hear me? This Nigga almost had a triple double

2486
02:05:57,840 --> 02:05:59,760
Speaker 4: and one of the triple one of the doubles was

2487
02:06:01,080 --> 02:06:01,800
Speaker 4: that's a rarity.

2488
02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:03,520
Speaker 3: I don't think they gave him credit for one of

2489
02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:04,160
Speaker 3: his blocks too.

2490
02:06:05,280 --> 02:06:07,760
Speaker 6: Like it was towards the end of like the player

2491
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:10,000
Speaker 6: kind of flipped it up and and be he just

2492
02:06:10,120 --> 02:06:12,840
Speaker 6: hit it out of bounds and it didn't really like

2493
02:06:12,920 --> 02:06:13,680
Speaker 6: a shot him till.

2494
02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:16,680
Speaker 3: But he tried to just throw it up to the basket.

2495
02:06:16,760 --> 02:06:18,480
Speaker 3: I don't think they gave him credit for that block.

2496
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:19,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2497
02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:23,640
Speaker 2: All I'm saying justin is uh, I'm so in on

2498
02:06:23,720 --> 02:06:26,800
Speaker 2: this hype train that there's nothing you can tell me

2499
02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:28,880
Speaker 2: he can't do except like I said, and I'm in

2500
02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:31,000
Speaker 2: this early, so I can change my mind on this

2501
02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:32,800
Speaker 2: except beat the thunder.

2502
02:06:33,040 --> 02:06:34,920
Speaker 4: But we might be a month away from me being like,

2503
02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:39,000
Speaker 4: hell whoop, they ass too Like I like this boy

2504
02:06:39,080 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 4: got me.

2505
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:42,879
Speaker 2: He got me feeling away, like I'll be watching his highlights,

2506
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:46,360
Speaker 2: like that's not even basketball he playing. He like this

2507
02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:48,680
Speaker 2: must have been the first time white people saw a

2508
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:50,040
Speaker 2: black person played basketball.

2509
02:06:50,080 --> 02:06:52,880
Speaker 4: And I was like, what is what is that? That's

2510
02:06:52,960 --> 02:06:53,880
Speaker 4: not what we been doing.

2511
02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:56,440
Speaker 2: So he could just put the ball in the hoop

2512
02:06:56,480 --> 02:06:59,080
Speaker 2: with two hands, like he's not gonna try to throw

2513
02:06:59,120 --> 02:07:02,200
Speaker 2: it underhand? And oh, well, why is he shooting from

2514
02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:04,280
Speaker 2: that far out? Don't you want to just get to

2515
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:06,480
Speaker 2: the close and throwt Oh he's not using the backboard?

2516
02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:08,960
Speaker 2: Like That's how it feel to me watching this, dude.

2517
02:07:09,000 --> 02:07:12,160
Speaker 2: I maybe I'm too hyped, but Spurs is crazy.

2518
02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:15,680
Speaker 3: It reminded me of all the times I played on

2519
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:19,480
Speaker 3: the eighth foot goal. Yes, and I was like, cant

2520
02:07:19,600 --> 02:07:20,720
Speaker 3: go basket.

2521
02:07:20,480 --> 02:07:26,280
Speaker 2: But hey, but look justice, justice not just not just

2522
02:07:26,360 --> 02:07:29,600
Speaker 2: an eight feet goal? Eight feet goal and you're thirty

2523
02:07:29,640 --> 02:07:33,320
Speaker 2: two and the people playing against his twelve You know

2524
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 2: what I'm saying like, it's not just an eight feet goal.

2525
02:07:37,880 --> 02:07:38,640
Speaker 1: That's not doing it.

2526
02:07:38,960 --> 02:07:41,480
Speaker 2: Everyone not on the eight feet goal. He on the

2527
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:45,440
Speaker 2: eighth feet goal, and they still trying to hit jumpers. Dog,

2528
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:46,240
Speaker 2: it's over.

2529
02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:49,760
Speaker 4: I'm so scared for the rest of these niggas, oh man, Like,

2530
02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:50,600
Speaker 4: I'm so scared.

2531
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:55,120
Speaker 3: Like you know, as a little can still hit the three, Yes.

2532
02:07:55,120 --> 02:07:56,480
Speaker 4: He can as a little bit.

2533
02:07:57,280 --> 02:08:01,640
Speaker 2: He could crush you over as a little fan, do

2534
02:08:01,720 --> 02:08:05,400
Speaker 2: you understand? I when I saw winby'all was like, oh,

2535
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:07,040
Speaker 2: that's the future.

2536
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:09,080
Speaker 4: Like like I don't want Lebron.

2537
02:08:09,160 --> 02:08:11,080
Speaker 2: I don't want Lebron to retire on some just like

2538
02:08:11,200 --> 02:08:13,840
Speaker 2: he can't win a ring, he should retire. I think

2539
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:15,800
Speaker 2: if he wants to play the game, he should play

2540
02:08:15,800 --> 02:08:17,800
Speaker 2: as long as he can. You saw how Michael Jordan

2541
02:08:18,160 --> 02:08:20,800
Speaker 2: was looking like he was gonna cry in that interview

2542
02:08:20,840 --> 02:08:22,840
Speaker 2: about how he can't play ball no more.

2543
02:08:23,080 --> 02:08:23,240
Speaker 4: Yep.

2544
02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:25,280
Speaker 2: So you play as long as you feel like playing,

2545
02:08:25,360 --> 02:08:27,600
Speaker 2: and you know it's not a Let other people be

2546
02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:30,840
Speaker 2: mad that you making fifty million dollars to play the

2547
02:08:30,920 --> 02:08:34,440
Speaker 2: game at at thirty eight, thirty nine, forty years old,

2548
02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:37,000
Speaker 2: Like that's their fault for being mad. Sorry, you're broke

2549
02:08:38,120 --> 02:08:40,520
Speaker 2: that do that speech about them haters that you did at.

2550
02:08:40,440 --> 02:08:41,360
Speaker 4: One time in Cleveland.

2551
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:46,480
Speaker 2: But that being said, when I saw wein, y'all, was like, oh, yeah,

2552
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:50,160
Speaker 2: that's a rap, Like like you just basically gotta hope

2553
02:08:50,200 --> 02:08:52,720
Speaker 2: he get another blood clot because you're not beating him

2554
02:08:53,240 --> 02:08:53,840
Speaker 2: with your team.

2555
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:56,880
Speaker 6: And I know this is sports he talked, But there

2556
02:08:57,040 --> 02:08:59,520
Speaker 6: was a sequence one time I watched him like try

2557
02:08:59,600 --> 02:09:02,640
Speaker 6: to cross over, could get around the guy. He passed

2558
02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:05,760
Speaker 6: it to the defender, I mean, to his teammate, but

2559
02:09:05,960 --> 02:09:09,600
Speaker 6: clapped to say give it back so he could just

2560
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:12,560
Speaker 6: I just needed a reset, Yeah, and got it back

2561
02:09:12,680 --> 02:09:16,440
Speaker 6: and reset and went right around him to the basket.

2562
02:09:16,520 --> 02:09:18,880
Speaker 3: And I was like, Yep, they wasn't doing this before

2563
02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:20,200
Speaker 3: before that, ye all.

2564
02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:25,000
Speaker 2: I like, on, it's not me coming down on him

2565
02:09:25,360 --> 02:09:28,920
Speaker 2: with expectations. Is me giving him respect? Like, oh, you

2566
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:33,000
Speaker 2: elevated your game to a point where we can't pretend

2567
02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:34,880
Speaker 2: that you can't do this anymore.

2568
02:09:35,400 --> 02:09:39,120
Speaker 1: We can't pretend that a mediocre season is okay no more.

2569
02:09:39,200 --> 02:09:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'll take him being I'll take him being

2570
02:09:43,280 --> 02:09:46,480
Speaker 2: in any of the top ten. I like, I'm not

2571
02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:49,240
Speaker 2: gonna like I personally wouldn't. I mean, I wouldn't shoot

2572
02:09:49,240 --> 02:09:51,800
Speaker 2: on him if it was still twelve thirteen. But personally,

2573
02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:54,040
Speaker 2: I feel like if he gets anywhere in the top

2574
02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:58,840
Speaker 2: ten seeds on the West, that's that's expectations, that's what

2575
02:09:58,960 --> 02:10:01,200
Speaker 2: he should be. He like, he can no longer have

2576
02:10:01,400 --> 02:10:04,440
Speaker 2: years where it's like, yeah, man, we just didn't make

2577
02:10:04,440 --> 02:10:06,880
Speaker 2: the playoffs, gonna get a good draft pick like no

2578
02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:07,480
Speaker 2: them days is.

2579
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:10,280
Speaker 4: Over look around at your team. You see these people.

2580
02:10:10,680 --> 02:10:12,440
Speaker 2: These are the best niggas you ever gonna play with

2581
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:14,560
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life because y'all never having

2582
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:18,640
Speaker 2: a great draft pick again, Like this is it, Stefan Castle,

2583
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:21,600
Speaker 2: Dylan Harper. Don't trade none of them, like, keep them

2584
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:24,360
Speaker 2: from unless you could, unless you're gonna trade them to

2585
02:10:24,400 --> 02:10:27,040
Speaker 2: get a better team from another the better player from

2586
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:29,920
Speaker 2: another team. You're not drafting a great player again. Y'all

2587
02:10:29,960 --> 02:10:31,880
Speaker 2: will always be drafted outside the lotto.

2588
02:10:32,680 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 1: That's true outside.

2589
02:10:34,600 --> 02:10:38,200
Speaker 3: Greater San Antonio. But it can happen now. I can

2590
02:10:38,240 --> 02:10:41,360
Speaker 3: see a bunch of niggas being like, I'm going to

2591
02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:41,880
Speaker 3: go play with.

2592
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:45,800
Speaker 4: That, yeah. And the thing is with the NBA, agree

2593
02:10:45,880 --> 02:10:48,040
Speaker 4: the CBA, you can't really do that no more.

2594
02:10:48,440 --> 02:10:50,440
Speaker 1: And everybody sign it back with their own team. They

2595
02:10:50,680 --> 02:10:51,920
Speaker 1: a niggas that can pay you the most.

2596
02:10:52,080 --> 02:10:56,880
Speaker 2: But honestly, that should make y'all as a league the team,

2597
02:10:57,120 --> 02:10:59,800
Speaker 2: y'all should be more scared. Y'all should be more scared.

2598
02:11:00,080 --> 02:11:03,320
Speaker 2: You can't even group up to get this, Yeah, y'all,

2599
02:11:03,440 --> 02:11:04,120
Speaker 2: y'all can't.

2600
02:11:03,880 --> 02:11:07,600
Speaker 3: Even yeah like they did against Lebron.

2601
02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:10,520
Speaker 4: Yeah right, super.

2602
02:11:10,360 --> 02:11:12,120
Speaker 1: Team Kevin Durant.

2603
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:15,400
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant is not walking through that door, you know

2604
02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:18,480
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like, there's no like the Denver Nuggets

2605
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:20,400
Speaker 2: can't look around the league and be like, oh, Joannis,

2606
02:11:20,520 --> 02:11:22,240
Speaker 2: you aren't trying to group up. It's like, no, the

2607
02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:27,680
Speaker 2: CBA won't let me. Sorry, So good luck against Wimby anyway.

2608
02:11:28,520 --> 02:11:32,360
Speaker 2: Maybe Janni's man, I don't I have to see it.

2609
02:11:32,520 --> 02:11:35,320
Speaker 4: Maybe Janni's I you know what, I'm sleeping on Yanni's

2610
02:11:35,360 --> 02:11:38,680
Speaker 4: That's not fair. Joannis does play great defense. He can't

2611
02:11:38,720 --> 02:11:39,600
Speaker 4: go out on the perimeter.

2612
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:44,800
Speaker 2: But the way this nigga is dunking, I feel like

2613
02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:46,800
Speaker 2: Janni's is gonna look at this culture be like, are

2614
02:11:46,840 --> 02:11:48,040
Speaker 2: you out of your fucking mind?

2615
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:51,200
Speaker 4: Not put me on them? I don't want to get

2616
02:11:51,240 --> 02:11:56,640
Speaker 4: dunk Yeah, yeah, I mean who can't? Who can? Who

2617
02:11:56,720 --> 02:12:01,400
Speaker 4: can just right out.

2618
02:12:01,600 --> 02:12:02,480
Speaker 1: The question was just.

2619
02:12:04,120 --> 02:12:06,960
Speaker 6: The new The new thing I learned about him is

2620
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:09,680
Speaker 6: he will put that shoulder in your chest as he's

2621
02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:12,080
Speaker 6: crossing you up, and you're gonna file off.

2622
02:12:12,640 --> 02:12:14,880
Speaker 3: The question nigga trouble.

2623
02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:18,600
Speaker 4: The question that was proposed is okay, just I hear you.

2624
02:12:19,080 --> 02:12:22,800
Speaker 2: The question that's proposed is how how does anyone have

2625
02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:23,960
Speaker 2: a chance to stop him?

2626
02:12:24,120 --> 02:12:25,320
Speaker 4: We know a d can't.

2627
02:12:25,920 --> 02:12:28,880
Speaker 2: And I'm like maybe Yiannis, like I'm trying to think

2628
02:12:28,920 --> 02:12:32,720
Speaker 2: because I was like nobody, but I'm like, okay, who

2629
02:12:32,840 --> 02:12:34,440
Speaker 2: has ladderer movement on the outside?

2630
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:37,000
Speaker 4: Mate, Maybe Jannis can slow him down a little bit.

2631
02:12:37,120 --> 02:12:39,840
Speaker 4: I don't think he can. But what the fun I'm

2632
02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:43,480
Speaker 4: I supposed to say, like the of the options.

2633
02:12:44,680 --> 02:12:47,760
Speaker 3: Together? Maybe n together? Maybe?

2634
02:12:47,840 --> 02:12:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what another another another another winby

2635
02:12:53,800 --> 02:12:57,240
Speaker 2: you make a clone, make him play against himself.

2636
02:13:00,040 --> 02:13:01,680
Speaker 4: They made more than one. He got a sister too,

2637
02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:04,920
Speaker 4: They made more than one of these. That's crazy, all right.

2638
02:13:07,120 --> 02:13:08,040
Speaker 3: They got a little brother.

2639
02:13:08,320 --> 02:13:10,680
Speaker 6: But we normally would say the little brother is going

2640
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:13,640
Speaker 6: to be better because they spent their whole life practicing

2641
02:13:13,720 --> 02:13:17,880
Speaker 6: against the one who was the greatest. Yeah, he might

2642
02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:20,720
Speaker 6: be better because he been practicing against his bigger problem.

2643
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:24,080
Speaker 4: I don't think so. But back to back to the

2644
02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:26,440
Speaker 4: I mean, look at Giannis. Do we say that about him?

2645
02:13:26,600 --> 02:13:26,640
Speaker 1: No?

2646
02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:29,320
Speaker 4: We don't. All right, So the.

2647
02:13:29,640 --> 02:13:33,040
Speaker 3: Other thing that different food, it's different.

2648
02:13:33,560 --> 02:13:35,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to skip the rest of these news

2649
02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:37,360
Speaker 2: articles because we're just not gonna have time. It's four

2650
02:13:37,360 --> 02:13:39,120
Speaker 2: and a half hours and can't even get past Winby.

2651
02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:43,919
Speaker 2: So I do a couple more NBA thoughts. Then Warriors

2652
02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:48,640
Speaker 2: old no, Clippers old no, not gonna work, Blazers gotta gotta.

2653
02:13:49,720 --> 02:13:50,919
Speaker 2: Blazers are sneaky.

2654
02:13:51,040 --> 02:13:54,240
Speaker 3: Here's why I think you said clippers old?

2655
02:13:54,720 --> 02:13:57,200
Speaker 4: Yes? What are you? What did you What do you think?

2656
02:13:58,440 --> 02:14:00,560
Speaker 4: Do you think Kawhi and James hard than they're young?

2657
02:14:00,720 --> 02:14:04,640
Speaker 4: You think Chris Paul is Like what am I saying wrong?

2658
02:14:04,760 --> 02:14:11,320
Speaker 4: That that that flagged? Oh yeah, I said old no.

2659
02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:16,720
Speaker 2: But for Clippers, old no, Warriors old no. You know

2660
02:14:16,760 --> 02:14:19,480
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like the old teams to me, because

2661
02:14:19,520 --> 02:14:22,960
Speaker 2: this is the best they gonna be. Is now, that's

2662
02:14:23,000 --> 02:14:25,760
Speaker 2: the problem with the old niggas, right, Like it's yeah,

2663
02:14:25,800 --> 02:14:28,640
Speaker 2: they look like people gonna get excited for the first month, Like,

2664
02:14:28,840 --> 02:14:30,960
Speaker 2: oh man, you see the Clippers and I'm like, call

2665
02:14:31,080 --> 02:14:34,640
Speaker 2: at me in April, and let's see what they look

2666
02:14:34,720 --> 02:14:35,280
Speaker 2: like in April.

2667
02:14:35,440 --> 02:14:38,920
Speaker 4: Like the kawhid Neys gotta hold up, Chris Paul, gotta be.

2668
02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:42,560
Speaker 2: Healthy like it's a lot. And the Thunder aren't getting old.

2669
02:14:43,240 --> 02:14:45,320
Speaker 2: Aren't gonna suddenly be five years older than they are.

2670
02:14:45,360 --> 02:14:47,040
Speaker 2: They gonna still be young and beat the ship out

2671
02:14:47,080 --> 02:14:52,400
Speaker 2: of them. I guess Warriors, same thing. Yes, no, oh,

2672
02:14:52,480 --> 02:14:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm talking about who has a chance. Clippers, no chance,

2673
02:14:56,040 --> 02:15:00,360
Speaker 2: no chance to be like the ring Lakers, just to

2674
02:15:00,480 --> 02:15:03,640
Speaker 2: be determined. But also there in my mind, I can't

2675
02:15:03,720 --> 02:15:06,080
Speaker 2: see it, but I just need to see what it

2676
02:15:06,160 --> 02:15:08,800
Speaker 2: even looks like for Lebron. I don't because they did

2677
02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:11,480
Speaker 2: look great last year right after the trade, and that

2678
02:15:11,800 --> 02:15:15,040
Speaker 2: was like kind of scary, but then everybody forgot about

2679
02:15:15,080 --> 02:15:18,240
Speaker 2: it once the playoffs happened and Lebron got hurt.

2680
02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:20,400
Speaker 4: So now it's like, can they catch that again? I

2681
02:15:20,440 --> 02:15:26,440
Speaker 4: don't know. Warriors, No, Rockets, I don't Yeah, the point

2682
02:15:26,480 --> 02:15:30,480
Speaker 4: guard we said that. Kings, No, I don't believe. Yeah, yeah,

2683
02:15:30,600 --> 02:15:37,160
Speaker 4: Kings No Memphis, no, New Orleans no.

2684
02:15:38,640 --> 02:15:38,680
Speaker 9: No.

2685
02:15:39,240 --> 02:15:41,600
Speaker 4: And I like I like what Zion looked doing. He

2686
02:15:41,680 --> 02:15:44,880
Speaker 4: looks great. Uh he dunked on Winby last night. That

2687
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:51,240
Speaker 4: was cool. Uh No, I'm sorry, don't believe in these niggas. Phoenix,

2688
02:15:52,720 --> 02:15:54,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Phoenix is completely out of it.

2689
02:15:54,920 --> 02:16:00,720
Speaker 3: Uh for sugar, this it real quick.

2690
02:16:01,520 --> 02:16:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really I can't if we're missing Oh, Minnesota.

2691
02:16:07,440 --> 02:16:10,240
Speaker 2: Minnesota and Denver to me are both in the same

2692
02:16:10,600 --> 02:16:14,520
Speaker 2: bucket of Like, yeah, if something happened, like you know,

2693
02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:17,920
Speaker 2: somebody get hurt on the Thunder, you know what I'm saying.

2694
02:16:17,960 --> 02:16:20,200
Speaker 2: When when when we get a blood clot then yeah,

2695
02:16:20,360 --> 02:16:23,640
Speaker 2: like like, don't give up y'all in the mix, but

2696
02:16:23,760 --> 02:16:26,240
Speaker 2: I'll put y'all at the tear above the old niggas.

2697
02:16:26,320 --> 02:16:29,880
Speaker 2: Like if the Timberwolves lose to the Warriors or the

2698
02:16:30,720 --> 02:16:35,480
Speaker 2: Lakers or the Clippers, they need to make a huge change. Yes,

2699
02:16:35,600 --> 02:16:38,320
Speaker 2: they like they supposed to be in the driver's seat

2700
02:16:38,400 --> 02:16:41,600
Speaker 2: except for against the Thunder probably and Denver you know,

2701
02:16:41,720 --> 02:16:44,520
Speaker 2: to that credit is the only team that really gave

2702
02:16:46,400 --> 02:16:50,480
Speaker 2: the thunderfits except for Indiana. So you know, if I

2703
02:16:50,600 --> 02:16:52,600
Speaker 2: was them, I feel fine running it back with what

2704
02:16:52,720 --> 02:16:56,360
Speaker 2: they got. And I think that's about it for teams

2705
02:16:56,440 --> 02:17:00,240
Speaker 2: that I really think might be threats or whatever. Yeah,

2706
02:17:00,240 --> 02:17:03,160
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna do the East right now because

2707
02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:05,440
Speaker 2: I mean, whoever come out the East is losing to

2708
02:17:06,600 --> 02:17:11,760
Speaker 2: the thunder, whoever the West is is wedding all right,

2709
02:17:11,800 --> 02:17:16,480
Speaker 2: finishing out these emails though, Okay, moving on? Oh way,

2710
02:17:16,520 --> 02:17:21,600
Speaker 2: he says, Uh, the Lakers Wolves game was a good

2711
02:17:21,640 --> 02:17:23,720
Speaker 2: one as well. I wanted to say, I've seen games

2712
02:17:23,760 --> 02:17:24,800
Speaker 2: on Peacock as well as Prime.

2713
02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:25,640
Speaker 4: Is so far, so good.

2714
02:17:25,680 --> 02:17:27,879
Speaker 2: The announcers on Prime come from TNT, and I believe

2715
02:17:27,920 --> 02:17:30,520
Speaker 2: Reggie went to Peacock NBC. I like you, right, I'm

2716
02:17:30,560 --> 02:17:32,440
Speaker 2: excited for the NBA to be back. The years off

2717
02:17:32,480 --> 02:17:34,640
Speaker 2: to a really good start despite the blackout from the FBI.

2718
02:17:35,440 --> 02:17:38,160
Speaker 2: Moving on, I sometimes listen to Carl Anthony podcasts up here.

2719
02:17:38,280 --> 02:17:41,000
Speaker 2: In Brooklyn's latest episode where I found very cringe, he

2720
02:17:41,080 --> 02:17:42,640
Speaker 2: was an interview with stephen A, and of course stephen

2721
02:17:42,640 --> 02:17:45,360
Speaker 2: A continue us toward whise hate Lebron and it's becoming

2722
02:17:45,440 --> 02:17:46,200
Speaker 2: quite annoying now.

2723
02:17:46,240 --> 02:17:47,519
Speaker 4: But it's one of the Banana.

2724
02:17:47,200 --> 02:17:49,320
Speaker 2: Boat boys and one of Lebron's closest friends. I was

2725
02:17:49,400 --> 02:17:52,400
Speaker 2: really surprised Carmelo took this in interview. It's like Justin

2726
02:17:52,480 --> 02:17:54,920
Speaker 2: going on Brilliant Idiots with Charlemagne or the Breakfast Club.

2727
02:17:55,000 --> 02:17:57,959
Speaker 2: I don't think Lebron Cares or maybe him and Mellow

2728
02:17:57,959 --> 02:18:00,200
Speaker 2: spoke prior. But it's not something that I think I

2729
02:18:00,200 --> 02:18:03,760
Speaker 2: would have done if I was in this position. Let

2730
02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:05,440
Speaker 2: me say that because I did want to talk about

2731
02:18:05,480 --> 02:18:11,600
Speaker 2: that too. I really think we kind of missed a

2732
02:18:11,680 --> 02:18:15,920
Speaker 2: shift here. I've been kind of talking around it for years,

2733
02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:20,440
Speaker 2: but this will crystallized it for me. These new media

2734
02:18:21,200 --> 02:18:28,000
Speaker 2: podcasts athletes, they no longer identify as athletes for real, right,

2735
02:18:28,280 --> 02:18:33,080
Speaker 2: They're now media personalities. And when it comes to media personalities,

2736
02:18:33,680 --> 02:18:36,840
Speaker 2: the same way that Carmelo looked up to Lebron James

2737
02:18:36,920 --> 02:18:39,120
Speaker 2: and his power in the league, and he looked at

2738
02:18:39,160 --> 02:18:41,880
Speaker 2: him as a peer and a competitor and was like,

2739
02:18:42,080 --> 02:18:44,200
Speaker 2: I want to do stuff like he did, Like when

2740
02:18:44,280 --> 02:18:47,560
Speaker 2: Lebron got his contract where he got it one year

2741
02:18:47,600 --> 02:18:50,160
Speaker 2: earlier than everybody else and then everyone copied him and

2742
02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:53,000
Speaker 2: d Wade and Carmelo didn't do it, but then the

2743
02:18:53,040 --> 02:18:55,000
Speaker 2: next time it was like, Okay, let me go ahead

2744
02:18:55,000 --> 02:18:58,240
Speaker 2: and do that too. The same way that Lebron got

2745
02:18:58,280 --> 02:19:00,440
Speaker 2: his kid into the league, and you can tell Carmelo

2746
02:19:00,440 --> 02:19:01,920
Speaker 2: would like for his son to be in the league.

2747
02:19:02,080 --> 02:19:05,560
Speaker 2: At some point, they was goals, They was buddies, they

2748
02:19:05,560 --> 02:19:09,160
Speaker 2: were peers. They now look at steven A Smith that way. Yes,

2749
02:19:09,840 --> 02:19:13,480
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys from even Draymond Green, who

2750
02:19:13,480 --> 02:19:15,120
Speaker 2: will talk shit about stephen A sometimes.

2751
02:19:15,200 --> 02:19:17,160
Speaker 4: But what did he want to do? Be on TNT?

2752
02:19:18,360 --> 02:19:19,440
Speaker 4: They want to be on TV.

2753
02:19:20,560 --> 02:19:26,160
Speaker 2: Carmelo was on Nbcpacock the other day. So when we

2754
02:19:26,320 --> 02:19:29,240
Speaker 2: look at that relationship and go, but y'all are players

2755
02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:31,200
Speaker 2: and you're letting us got shipped on the player and

2756
02:19:31,320 --> 02:19:34,840
Speaker 2: his son and your friend, why would you do that? Well,

2757
02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:36,560
Speaker 2: it's not just why would he do that? The clip

2758
02:19:36,600 --> 02:19:38,560
Speaker 2: they put out the remote the episode was that clip,

2759
02:19:39,080 --> 02:19:44,240
Speaker 2: and it's just Carmela going uh huh okay, no pushback

2760
02:19:44,280 --> 02:19:47,440
Speaker 2: of nothing. And that's because he want to be stephen A.

2761
02:19:47,680 --> 02:19:51,680
Speaker 2: It's very transactional what we're witnessing. It's a transactional relationship.

2762
02:19:52,080 --> 02:19:58,360
Speaker 2: Steven A is a transactional person, very nakedly. So money, clicks, views, fame,

2763
02:19:58,520 --> 02:20:01,040
Speaker 2: that's what he's about. That's what he's gonna get. And

2764
02:20:01,200 --> 02:20:04,200
Speaker 2: these guys want that. Now, these are extremely competitive guys.

2765
02:20:05,160 --> 02:20:08,600
Speaker 2: They're competitive now, but the arena's not basketball, it's clicks,

2766
02:20:09,360 --> 02:20:13,520
Speaker 2: it's viral moments, it's this shit. So I looked at

2767
02:20:13,560 --> 02:20:17,520
Speaker 2: that shit and was like, oh, oh, I've I didn't

2768
02:20:17,560 --> 02:20:20,039
Speaker 2: realize it. It got this cut throat because I would

2769
02:20:20,120 --> 02:20:22,720
Speaker 2: have not let that happen in front of me with

2770
02:20:22,840 --> 02:20:23,480
Speaker 2: no pushback.

2771
02:20:24,120 --> 02:20:24,600
Speaker 4: And Steven.

2772
02:20:24,640 --> 02:20:27,560
Speaker 2: They also went on Ryan Clark's podcast and talked about

2773
02:20:27,640 --> 02:20:31,800
Speaker 2: Jazmine Crockett and they set up there mm hmm all

2774
02:20:31,840 --> 02:20:33,840
Speaker 2: the way through it, this place that claimed to stand

2775
02:20:33,920 --> 02:20:35,840
Speaker 2: up for black women and be a safe space and

2776
02:20:36,440 --> 02:20:39,280
Speaker 2: challenge Andrew Schultz then invited Andrew Schols on and said

2777
02:20:39,320 --> 02:20:42,959
Speaker 2: he was a good guy and didn't apologize and all

2778
02:20:43,000 --> 02:20:45,320
Speaker 2: the shit. And I just saw Ryan Clark put out

2779
02:20:45,320 --> 02:20:48,120
Speaker 2: another apology about this Jazz and Clark thing, a Jazz

2780
02:20:48,200 --> 02:20:48,800
Speaker 2: and Crockett thing.

2781
02:20:48,920 --> 02:20:49,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna play it.

2782
02:20:49,520 --> 02:20:51,240
Speaker 1: Out second, apologizing ass man.

2783
02:20:51,360 --> 02:20:52,200
Speaker 4: He addicted to it.

2784
02:20:52,560 --> 02:20:55,000
Speaker 2: But my point is worse than me, and you know

2785
02:20:55,120 --> 02:20:59,800
Speaker 2: that's bad. But my point is we're looking at it backwards.

2786
02:21:00,360 --> 02:21:06,840
Speaker 2: That wasn't Lebron's friend letting stephen A talk about Lebron.

2787
02:21:07,720 --> 02:21:12,800
Speaker 2: It was Carmelo Anthony media personality trying to get a

2788
02:21:12,879 --> 02:21:14,440
Speaker 2: viral clip. And if you look at it that way,

2789
02:21:15,040 --> 02:21:17,480
Speaker 2: it's really not that shocking, even if it's kind of sad,

2790
02:21:18,400 --> 02:21:20,000
Speaker 2: because they were supposed to be new media. They were

2791
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:22,280
Speaker 2: supposed to be different. They were supposed to protect the athlete,

2792
02:21:22,280 --> 02:21:26,120
Speaker 2: give the athletes perspective. They were supposed to detegrate the

2793
02:21:26,200 --> 02:21:29,080
Speaker 2: media in the hot takes. Now watching Chandler Parsons talk

2794
02:21:29,120 --> 02:21:32,640
Speaker 2: shit about LaMelo and you're like, oh, that's the same

2795
02:21:32,680 --> 02:21:35,800
Speaker 2: thing stephen A does, like just no context, just over

2796
02:21:35,840 --> 02:21:40,040
Speaker 2: the top conversation. Yeah, okay, So y'all really wanted to

2797
02:21:40,080 --> 02:21:42,560
Speaker 2: beat them the whole time. Y'all lied and said y'all,

2798
02:21:42,760 --> 02:21:44,680
Speaker 2: y'all thought they did a bad job, but y'all just

2799
02:21:44,720 --> 02:21:46,120
Speaker 2: wanted to be the one to do the job and

2800
02:21:46,200 --> 02:21:51,720
Speaker 2: get to check from ESPN, from Fandel, from ABC, from Peacock.

2801
02:21:52,280 --> 02:21:54,360
Speaker 1: A lot of them. That's the money revenue once you

2802
02:21:54,440 --> 02:21:55,920
Speaker 1: can't play basketball anymore.

2803
02:21:56,080 --> 02:21:58,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what they after. So anyway, I thought it

2804
02:21:58,840 --> 02:21:59,480
Speaker 4: was fucked.

2805
02:21:59,240 --> 02:22:03,120
Speaker 3: Up, definitely, last last statement.

2806
02:22:03,240 --> 02:22:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, lastly, the other day one of the regular shows, Rod,

2807
02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:08,480
Speaker 2: you were speaking about CT. We all know that after

2808
02:22:08,520 --> 02:22:10,320
Speaker 2: the death is when we can find out more about

2809
02:22:10,320 --> 02:22:12,119
Speaker 2: the person. Do you think we will reach a point

2810
02:22:12,120 --> 02:22:14,600
Speaker 2: we might be able to diagnose possibly treat CT before

2811
02:22:14,680 --> 02:22:17,000
Speaker 2: death stage? So many other things of all of course,

2812
02:22:17,040 --> 02:22:18,480
Speaker 2: time have a great weekend, fowards out.

2813
02:22:19,160 --> 02:22:21,720
Speaker 4: Oh, no idea. I'm not a scientist. I didn't. I

2814
02:22:21,800 --> 02:22:23,360
Speaker 4: mean it was crazy to me. You can only find

2815
02:22:23,400 --> 02:22:24,160
Speaker 4: out after they die.

2816
02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:27,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we all know when we see it,

2817
02:22:27,560 --> 02:22:29,720
Speaker 2: and certain people you're like, that's probably the ct and

2818
02:22:29,840 --> 02:22:31,920
Speaker 2: we make jokes about it. But I mean, I'm not

2819
02:22:32,080 --> 02:22:33,760
Speaker 2: really joking a lot of times I'll be like, that

2820
02:22:33,920 --> 02:22:35,600
Speaker 2: seemed like something happen to their brain.

2821
02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:38,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, like look at.

2822
02:22:39,840 --> 02:22:42,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you just telling me it's people like Tyreek

2823
02:22:42,840 --> 02:22:45,080
Speaker 2: Hill that's making these decisions. They think they're gonna work out,

2824
02:22:45,200 --> 02:22:47,280
Speaker 2: or you're telling me something probably happened to them, and

2825
02:22:47,400 --> 02:22:50,320
Speaker 2: you get your brain knocked a bunch of times, and

2826
02:22:50,440 --> 02:22:52,600
Speaker 2: you know they're still not treating it seriously because the

2827
02:22:52,760 --> 02:22:56,760
Speaker 2: Giants just had their coach get fined and some of

2828
02:22:56,800 --> 02:22:59,560
Speaker 2: the players get fine and the team get fine because

2829
02:22:59,600 --> 02:23:01,760
Speaker 2: one of the players got hurt, Jackson Dart, and they

2830
02:23:01,879 --> 02:23:05,600
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, uh, we would like to have him

2831
02:23:05,680 --> 02:23:08,600
Speaker 2: out of the CTE tent immediately, so Russell Wilson can't

2832
02:23:08,600 --> 02:23:12,680
Speaker 2: finish this game for him, So they don't treat it serious.

2833
02:23:13,440 --> 02:23:16,480
Speaker 2: They don't care he had he possibly had a concussion,

2834
02:23:16,520 --> 02:23:18,560
Speaker 2: and the coaches like, get him back in the game immediately,

2835
02:23:18,879 --> 02:23:22,040
Speaker 2: and the NFL's only recourse was to find him. You know,

2836
02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:24,280
Speaker 2: to me, honestly, if you thought it was serious and

2837
02:23:24,400 --> 02:23:27,480
Speaker 2: they were treating CT seriously, you would have literally done

2838
02:23:27,520 --> 02:23:31,039
Speaker 2: to wild shit like make him, suspend him from coaching,

2839
02:23:31,720 --> 02:23:34,400
Speaker 2: held Jackson dart out a game anyway to be like

2840
02:23:34,480 --> 02:23:36,760
Speaker 2: as a precaution, but really you're penalizing the team for

2841
02:23:36,879 --> 02:23:37,440
Speaker 2: doing that shit.

2842
02:23:38,160 --> 02:23:38,760
Speaker 4: But they didn't.

2843
02:23:38,840 --> 02:23:41,320
Speaker 2: They just find him because nobody actually gives a fuck

2844
02:23:41,320 --> 02:23:47,560
Speaker 2: about CT anymore. Right, Let's see uh Wanga says, good

2845
02:23:47,640 --> 02:23:50,320
Speaker 2: day everybody, Rosieah. I better hope that they stick to

2846
02:23:50,440 --> 02:23:53,400
Speaker 2: only the game from where he was in Charlotte, because

2847
02:23:53,440 --> 02:23:55,440
Speaker 2: if they look at last year on the heat, he's fucked.

2848
02:23:55,520 --> 02:23:57,000
Speaker 2: No way he wasn't on the take with how bad

2849
02:23:57,040 --> 02:24:00,280
Speaker 2: he played. Have a good one, Wana, straight to the point.

2850
02:24:05,760 --> 02:24:06,520
Speaker 4: That's hilarious.

2851
02:24:08,800 --> 02:24:16,520
Speaker 6: I've been loving them clips, oh Terry Russell Westbrook even

2852
02:24:16,560 --> 02:24:20,720
Speaker 6: with playing the Sacramento and they're like, look next on

2853
02:24:20,840 --> 02:24:23,520
Speaker 6: the list. It's a few of them guys that they've

2854
02:24:23,520 --> 02:24:25,960
Speaker 6: been I've been plunk in front of. But also not

2855
02:24:26,160 --> 02:24:27,959
Speaker 6: jokes to be like on.

2856
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:33,400
Speaker 2: The tape, Wanga, you b wasshitn't this morning, I had

2857
02:24:34,120 --> 02:24:37,800
Speaker 2: the darkest thought. I was like, remember the time the

2858
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:41,680
Speaker 2: Hornets lost to playing games, got blown the funk out?

2859
02:24:43,280 --> 02:24:48,000
Speaker 4: Hm hm hm hmm. Terry was on them teams.

2860
02:24:48,480 --> 02:24:49,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

2861
02:24:49,320 --> 02:24:50,400
Speaker 4: Terry was on them teams.

2862
02:24:50,959 --> 02:24:54,080
Speaker 2: Right, James Rego lost his job and we always like

2863
02:24:54,320 --> 02:24:56,280
Speaker 2: he can't go into playing game, k coach, I'm like,

2864
02:24:56,760 --> 02:24:58,760
Speaker 2: can we check the check the bank accounts for them

2865
02:24:58,800 --> 02:24:59,760
Speaker 2: transactions that day?

2866
02:25:00,440 --> 02:25:01,080
Speaker 4: I just need to know.

2867
02:25:01,240 --> 02:25:01,720
Speaker 1: I just want to.

2868
02:25:01,760 --> 02:25:03,400
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just interested to do it once.

2869
02:25:03,879 --> 02:25:05,680
Speaker 1: You probably have done it before, it just never got caught.

2870
02:25:05,720 --> 02:25:08,080
Speaker 2: Now, maybe the NBA wasn't in bed with gambling at

2871
02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:12,920
Speaker 2: the time, but I mean paying information the gamblers, like

2872
02:25:13,040 --> 02:25:16,640
Speaker 2: selling information that gamblers doesn't necessarily mean fan dude gotta

2873
02:25:16,680 --> 02:25:18,480
Speaker 2: be involved on any level, right.

2874
02:25:19,760 --> 02:25:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that Terry wasn't involved these other guys bruh.

2875
02:25:24,720 --> 02:25:28,160
Speaker 2: Now that's just that's just me on my hopium as

2876
02:25:28,200 --> 02:25:32,120
Speaker 2: a as a on its fan. But still, all right,

2877
02:25:32,240 --> 02:25:34,920
Speaker 2: here's the here's the only thing say that again justin

2878
02:25:34,920 --> 02:25:36,560
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no.

2879
02:25:36,680 --> 02:25:37,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying the same.

2880
02:25:37,760 --> 02:25:40,160
Speaker 6: But it's a lot of them guys like these just

2881
02:25:40,240 --> 02:25:44,320
Speaker 6: happened to be the guys that's under the FBI's I right,

2882
02:25:45,440 --> 02:25:47,760
Speaker 6: because they were somehow connected to another person.

2883
02:25:47,800 --> 02:25:49,119
Speaker 3: Because somebody was talking.

2884
02:25:49,440 --> 02:25:51,160
Speaker 4: Here's the only quick stuff I'll do.

2885
02:25:52,600 --> 02:25:58,480
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, fake hairline, jet just came off on somebody jersey.

2886
02:25:59,360 --> 02:26:03,240
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, yeah, So he went to do a

2887
02:26:03,360 --> 02:26:06,720
Speaker 2: move leaning to the jersey and now there's a black

2888
02:26:06,760 --> 02:26:09,600
Speaker 2: spot on this man's jersey.

2889
02:26:10,120 --> 02:26:11,560
Speaker 1: Oh no, not that.

2890
02:26:13,320 --> 02:26:14,080
Speaker 4: That fiction.

2891
02:26:17,160 --> 02:26:20,959
Speaker 2: That Lebron would never have this happen. And that's why

2892
02:26:21,080 --> 02:26:24,400
Speaker 2: Lebron the goat because he would never let that happen.

2893
02:26:25,440 --> 02:26:25,560
Speaker 3: Uh.

2894
02:26:26,000 --> 02:26:29,119
Speaker 4: The Eagles, A J. Brown is not gonna play due

2895
02:26:29,160 --> 02:26:30,360
Speaker 4: to a hamstring injury.

2896
02:26:31,480 --> 02:26:33,840
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna just come out and say it because

2897
02:26:33,879 --> 02:26:36,520
Speaker 2: nobody else is willing to say it. Everybody's was talking

2898
02:26:36,520 --> 02:26:39,160
Speaker 2: about how thoughtful this man is, his character. He just

2899
02:26:39,200 --> 02:26:41,920
Speaker 2: cares about winning. It's not about I think this nigga

2900
02:26:41,959 --> 02:26:44,240
Speaker 2: is a devil wide receiver in disguise. I think y'all

2901
02:26:44,240 --> 02:26:46,560
Speaker 2: are falling for it. He using this mental health talk

2902
02:26:46,640 --> 02:26:48,800
Speaker 2: and book reading on the sideline, the trick y'all, and

2903
02:26:48,840 --> 02:26:49,720
Speaker 2: the acting like he's not.

2904
02:26:49,800 --> 02:26:53,600
Speaker 4: T o this nigga t o basic. All he do

2905
02:26:53,800 --> 02:26:56,120
Speaker 4: is ship on this quarterback in this team because he

2906
02:26:56,160 --> 02:26:56,879
Speaker 4: ain't getting.

2907
02:26:56,680 --> 02:26:59,000
Speaker 2: The ball enough and then he just disguised this no

2908
02:26:59,200 --> 02:27:02,480
Speaker 2: because I want them to do so well to get

2909
02:27:02,520 --> 02:27:02,840
Speaker 2: the ball.

2910
02:27:03,480 --> 02:27:06,160
Speaker 4: I'm now. The thing is, I'm not shitting on him

2911
02:27:06,200 --> 02:27:06,920
Speaker 4: for being a t o.

2912
02:27:07,200 --> 02:27:10,040
Speaker 2: I think in the league where your individual status is

2913
02:27:10,080 --> 02:27:13,720
Speaker 2: how you get paid, fuck all that goddamn team ship

2914
02:27:13,760 --> 02:27:16,400
Speaker 2: where they be like, no, it's about wins when it's

2915
02:27:16,520 --> 02:27:19,560
Speaker 2: time to negotiate, And I'm like, well, y'all know I'm

2916
02:27:19,560 --> 02:27:20,800
Speaker 2: one of the best fire receivers.

2917
02:27:20,879 --> 02:27:23,480
Speaker 4: Y'all just don't get throw the ball. You just gonna

2918
02:27:23,520 --> 02:27:25,240
Speaker 4: look at that motherfucking.

2919
02:27:25,200 --> 02:27:27,440
Speaker 2: Time you look at them stats like, I don't think

2920
02:27:27,480 --> 02:27:31,160
Speaker 2: you are. You don't have eight hundred yards. So I'm

2921
02:27:31,240 --> 02:27:32,080
Speaker 2: with him in that.

2922
02:27:32,760 --> 02:27:35,360
Speaker 4: I think he has a legitimate gripe about his personal stats.

2923
02:27:36,360 --> 02:27:38,760
Speaker 2: Uh, but I think he's a diva, and I think

2924
02:27:38,959 --> 02:27:41,640
Speaker 2: we gotta stop lying about Oh no, he's just a

2925
02:27:41,680 --> 02:27:43,680
Speaker 2: good guy. He's a stand up brother. I'm not saying

2926
02:27:43,720 --> 02:27:46,520
Speaker 2: you're not a standing up brother. But he also clearly

2927
02:27:46,640 --> 02:27:48,240
Speaker 2: is trying to get that motherfucking money.

2928
02:27:48,600 --> 02:27:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't blame him.

2929
02:27:50,879 --> 02:27:51,680
Speaker 4: Jayalen during got It.

2930
02:27:53,120 --> 02:27:57,720
Speaker 2: Jalen Durn got ejected for instantly for delivering a vicious

2931
02:27:57,720 --> 02:27:59,160
Speaker 2: elbow to a man Thompson's face.

2932
02:28:00,520 --> 02:28:07,080
Speaker 4: Hey, don't his brother play for the Pistons, explain that

2933
02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:11,600
Speaker 4: one that Thanksgiving? Like you just gonna let your man's

2934
02:28:11,640 --> 02:28:13,720
Speaker 4: elbowed me in the face and get ejected from the game.

2935
02:28:13,760 --> 02:28:14,879
Speaker 4: You ain't gonna do nothing.

2936
02:28:15,280 --> 02:28:17,760
Speaker 2: Cause I'm look, I don't know how your brotherhood works.

2937
02:28:18,120 --> 02:28:21,280
Speaker 2: Everybody brotherhood a little different it is. But we gotta

2938
02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:21,959
Speaker 2: jump this man.

2939
02:28:22,600 --> 02:28:27,280
Speaker 4: Oh, I can't come home like like, I can't be like, hey,

2940
02:28:27,480 --> 02:28:28,959
Speaker 4: tough game today, man, you good?

2941
02:28:29,160 --> 02:28:31,280
Speaker 1: Like it's gotta be like, oh, you just lay him?

2942
02:28:31,560 --> 02:28:35,240
Speaker 2: Really Okay, So maybe they're not as tight as I thought,

2943
02:28:35,280 --> 02:28:38,840
Speaker 2: because I feel like a sore should have should have

2944
02:28:38,920 --> 02:28:43,520
Speaker 2: done something, you know, but he didn't. All right, anymore

2945
02:28:43,720 --> 02:28:47,359
Speaker 2: quick stories, don't care about Kevin. Dinner at Contract Extension

2946
02:28:47,480 --> 02:28:50,320
Speaker 2: kind of brought that up. Thunders Championship bring got a

2947
02:28:50,400 --> 02:28:54,720
Speaker 2: ring inside that was cool but not really newsworthy. Oh

2948
02:28:54,920 --> 02:28:58,840
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson called uh his old coach Sean Payton class

2949
02:28:58,920 --> 02:29:02,920
Speaker 2: list because Sean Payton was shitting on him Derrek talking

2950
02:29:02,920 --> 02:29:05,480
Speaker 2: about Jackson Dark and all this ship and so Wilson said,

2951
02:29:05,520 --> 02:29:08,920
Speaker 2: classes but not surprised. Didn't realize you're still bounty hunting.

2952
02:29:09,000 --> 02:29:11,199
Speaker 2: Fifteen plus years later through the media.

2953
02:29:11,600 --> 02:29:18,480
Speaker 4: Hashtag let's ride uh so and some laughing emojis. Okay, okay, Sierra,

2954
02:29:20,040 --> 02:29:20,959
Speaker 4: you know, was.

2955
02:29:20,959 --> 02:29:23,000
Speaker 2: Like, baby, you're gonna take that, Sierra, I'll see you.

2956
02:29:23,040 --> 02:29:25,200
Speaker 2: Got a hold of the phone, I'll see you know.

2957
02:29:26,080 --> 02:29:28,320
Speaker 2: So she know the passwords what we're saying. Yes, she

2958
02:29:28,560 --> 02:29:29,560
Speaker 2: she know the past word.

2959
02:29:31,600 --> 02:29:34,680
Speaker 1: It ain't locked, it ain't never locked.

2960
02:29:34,760 --> 02:29:36,520
Speaker 2: Well, it's locked for a little future, you know what

2961
02:29:36,560 --> 02:29:40,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, you gotta keep okay, but but she

2962
02:29:40,320 --> 02:29:43,480
Speaker 2: know the code is all I'm saying. All Right, other

2963
02:29:43,640 --> 02:29:48,400
Speaker 2: fast ones, I'll save that one for next week. Uh,

2964
02:29:48,760 --> 02:29:51,760
Speaker 2: who gives a fuck about Bill Belichick? That's going exactly

2965
02:29:51,879 --> 02:29:54,560
Speaker 2: like I told you all that would yeah, terribly. Yeah,

2966
02:29:55,840 --> 02:29:57,960
Speaker 2: I'll say that one for next week. Oh, Ryan Clark,

2967
02:29:58,000 --> 02:29:59,200
Speaker 2: I did say I would cover that one.

2968
02:29:59,320 --> 02:30:01,800
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I was gonna say.

2969
02:30:01,840 --> 02:30:03,520
Speaker 6: I thought you're gonna tell you about people thinking about

2970
02:30:03,560 --> 02:30:05,280
Speaker 6: seeing these sportsbooks.

2971
02:30:06,760 --> 02:30:08,760
Speaker 3: Nah, in the NBA sewing.

2972
02:30:08,560 --> 02:30:12,080
Speaker 4: The sports of the games. Nah.

2973
02:30:12,840 --> 02:30:15,120
Speaker 2: I think we already talked about that so much that

2974
02:30:16,120 --> 02:30:18,600
Speaker 2: maybe next week. I feel like that's another thirty minutes.

2975
02:30:20,480 --> 02:30:24,160
Speaker 2: Ryan Clark, explaining himself, was in Spaces.

2976
02:30:24,560 --> 02:30:27,920
Speaker 4: For the stephen A. Coming on the shipping on Jasmine Crockett.

2977
02:30:28,560 --> 02:30:31,360
Speaker 4: So why is nine out of ten not good enough?

2978
02:30:31,720 --> 02:30:34,680
Speaker 2: Why is the nine times I put my job on

2979
02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:37,640
Speaker 2: the line or I said things and did things and

2980
02:30:37,800 --> 02:30:40,720
Speaker 2: was in spaces you would never be put stuff on

2981
02:30:40,840 --> 02:30:41,320
Speaker 2: the line.

2982
02:30:41,160 --> 02:30:43,600
Speaker 4: That you would never and you have never that you

2983
02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:44,840
Speaker 4: ain't never worked hard.

2984
02:30:44,840 --> 02:30:45,560
Speaker 1: Enough to get.

2985
02:30:45,840 --> 02:30:48,120
Speaker 4: And in the tenth time, if I don't feel like

2986
02:30:48,280 --> 02:30:49,520
Speaker 4: you feel, why.

2987
02:30:49,520 --> 02:30:50,440
Speaker 1: Is that not okay?

2988
02:30:50,760 --> 02:30:51,240
Speaker 3: Scrap?

2989
02:30:51,400 --> 02:30:54,800
Speaker 7: I'm a street legic, well fellas back together, rush firing

2990
02:30:54,840 --> 02:30:55,480
Speaker 7: at people.

2991
02:30:55,520 --> 02:30:56,440
Speaker 3: You know, love it.

2992
02:30:57,160 --> 02:30:59,240
Speaker 4: That's what I wanted him to do the whole time.

2993
02:30:59,560 --> 02:31:03,280
Speaker 2: I knew that energy, all that nice pleasant anybody says

2994
02:31:03,280 --> 02:31:03,840
Speaker 2: something about.

2995
02:31:03,840 --> 02:31:05,440
Speaker 4: So it's just like a promotional video.

2996
02:31:05,560 --> 02:31:09,880
Speaker 1: Then I thought it was, yeah, this is a promotion

2997
02:31:09,959 --> 02:31:10,120
Speaker 1: of it.

2998
02:31:10,240 --> 02:31:17,360
Speaker 9: Because if you're going to really do that, George Colony

2999
02:31:17,400 --> 02:31:20,800
Speaker 9: on Esquad Magazine, let me just leave through a couple.

3000
02:31:21,120 --> 02:31:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they kind of running from it because he put

3001
02:31:24,160 --> 02:31:27,080
Speaker 2: the caption. Is why I played the video. We sat

3002
02:31:27,120 --> 02:31:29,440
Speaker 2: with Steven A. Smith a week before his discourse on

3003
02:31:29,560 --> 02:31:32,600
Speaker 2: Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. Is why we didn't ask a question

3004
02:31:32,680 --> 02:31:35,920
Speaker 2: about her or have extended conversation. I shared my thoughts

3005
02:31:36,000 --> 02:31:37,240
Speaker 2: after he mentioned her moved on.

3006
02:31:37,360 --> 02:31:39,119
Speaker 4: It wasn't a thing. Yet we are.

3007
02:31:39,040 --> 02:31:41,840
Speaker 2: Praised for the space we provided. Stephen A deserved that space.

3008
02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:44,400
Speaker 2: He's my friend and he's shown true loyalty. I'm not

3009
02:31:44,520 --> 02:31:46,200
Speaker 2: going to show my ass by using his name to

3010
02:31:46,240 --> 02:31:47,640
Speaker 2: get clicks or a piece the masses.

3011
02:31:48,080 --> 02:31:51,959
Speaker 4: The clip that he put out. The clip that he put.

3012
02:31:51,840 --> 02:31:55,520
Speaker 2: Out was the clip of Jasmine Crockett about so you

3013
02:31:55,680 --> 02:31:58,440
Speaker 2: were using his name and Jasmine Crockett to get clicks.

3014
02:31:59,000 --> 02:32:04,120
Speaker 2: The second part of that is we're not telling you

3015
02:32:04,680 --> 02:32:07,920
Speaker 2: you can't have Steven Ell your show. You didn't push back,

3016
02:32:08,160 --> 02:32:10,320
Speaker 2: and you know you didn't push back even after promising

3017
02:32:10,400 --> 02:32:12,960
Speaker 2: to be a safe space and all that shit. Lastly,

3018
02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:14,920
Speaker 2: and I hate to say this about Ryan because I

3019
02:32:14,959 --> 02:32:17,760
Speaker 2: think he's mostly a stand up dude, but you're lying.

3020
02:32:19,160 --> 02:32:22,360
Speaker 2: You got caught in a lot because stephen A's comment

3021
02:32:22,520 --> 02:32:25,000
Speaker 2: on there was talking about how he had already been

3022
02:32:25,040 --> 02:32:29,040
Speaker 2: talking shit about Jason Crockett, which means it wasn't a

3023
02:32:29,080 --> 02:32:30,320
Speaker 2: week before he said that shit.

3024
02:32:31,760 --> 02:32:35,039
Speaker 4: The comment is a response to what he had already said.

3025
02:32:36,840 --> 02:32:39,119
Speaker 2: So yeah, I and this is why I said, Man,

3026
02:32:39,600 --> 02:32:42,600
Speaker 2: the transactional nature of stephen A is going to keep

3027
02:32:42,640 --> 02:32:46,080
Speaker 2: him alive forever, of course, because you just dirty yourself

3028
02:32:46,640 --> 02:32:48,720
Speaker 2: because you can't stand the scrutiny.

3029
02:32:49,760 --> 02:32:53,840
Speaker 4: Either don't address it. Yeah, either don't address it.

3030
02:32:54,000 --> 02:32:56,600
Speaker 2: Or stop acting like you the one that holds everybody

3031
02:32:56,640 --> 02:32:58,800
Speaker 2: accountable and you stand up for black women and all

3032
02:32:58,840 --> 02:32:59,160
Speaker 2: this shit.

3033
02:32:59,280 --> 02:33:01,039
Speaker 1: Just they just don't say it, right.

3034
02:33:02,080 --> 02:33:04,560
Speaker 2: You know, you could have asked better questions, You could

3035
02:33:04,600 --> 02:33:06,600
Speaker 2: have pushed back. If it was somebody else.

3036
02:33:06,440 --> 02:33:08,000
Speaker 1: You would have I agree.

3037
02:33:08,160 --> 02:33:10,280
Speaker 4: And the fact that he's your friend doesn't mean shit,

3038
02:33:11,280 --> 02:33:12,800
Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, you put the.

3039
02:33:12,800 --> 02:33:17,199
Speaker 6: Clip out because friends, you able to push back because

3040
02:33:17,400 --> 02:33:18,439
Speaker 6: he is your friend.

3041
02:33:18,560 --> 02:33:22,640
Speaker 2: Right, You're not really friends. You're in a transactional situationship.

3042
02:33:22,800 --> 02:33:25,600
Speaker 2: And that's the real truth. And until people are willing

3043
02:33:25,640 --> 02:33:28,959
Speaker 2: to admit that shit, we're gonna end up right back

3044
02:33:29,000 --> 02:33:31,840
Speaker 2: where we are, all right.

3045
02:33:31,879 --> 02:33:33,560
Speaker 4: I think that's every apology.

3046
02:33:33,879 --> 02:33:34,640
Speaker 3: How many times?

3047
02:33:34,760 --> 02:33:37,280
Speaker 6: How many times you're gonna let Ryan apologize to you

3048
02:33:37,560 --> 02:33:39,000
Speaker 6: and other people before you feel like it?

3049
02:33:39,720 --> 02:33:39,840
Speaker 2: Right?

3050
02:33:40,040 --> 02:33:41,600
Speaker 3: Ryan is not who I thought he was.

3051
02:33:42,920 --> 02:33:45,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and Penn State fired that James Franklin dude,

3052
02:33:45,440 --> 02:33:47,119
Speaker 2: and I was excited because I was like, oh, fifty

3053
02:33:47,160 --> 02:33:49,400
Speaker 2: million dollars biout. Then I found out they got a

3054
02:33:49,440 --> 02:33:52,560
Speaker 2: clause or he gotta actually look for a job, and

3055
02:33:52,640 --> 02:33:54,800
Speaker 2: then they only pay him the difference between his new

3056
02:33:54,920 --> 02:33:56,280
Speaker 2: job and what they owe him.

3057
02:33:57,680 --> 02:34:00,880
Speaker 4: So what would you work McDonald's or Subway? What would

3058
02:34:00,920 --> 02:34:04,240
Speaker 4: you what would you go get your job at? I

3059
02:34:04,360 --> 02:34:09,560
Speaker 4: just want to know directly, right where am I? I'm

3060
02:34:09,600 --> 02:34:11,440
Speaker 4: working for tips? You know what I'm saying? Like, where

3061
02:34:11,480 --> 02:34:11,680
Speaker 4: are we?

3062
02:34:11,959 --> 02:34:14,400
Speaker 2: Right? I hope you don't think I'm finna go get

3063
02:34:14,480 --> 02:34:17,560
Speaker 2: one of these high pressure, ten million dollars a year

3064
02:34:17,720 --> 02:34:20,760
Speaker 2: motherfucking college coaching jobs. Again, I'm not fin to do

3065
02:34:20,840 --> 02:34:24,400
Speaker 2: that at all. Player, No, sir, I need my fifty Okay,

3066
02:34:24,600 --> 02:34:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need that. I don't give a fuck what

3067
02:34:26,720 --> 02:34:31,640
Speaker 2: y'all put that right where you work? I work at Lows,

3068
02:34:32,200 --> 02:34:34,760
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna need y'all to match the one. The

3069
02:34:34,920 --> 02:34:37,880
Speaker 2: rest of that four hundred of five, the rest of

3070
02:34:37,959 --> 02:34:44,360
Speaker 2: that forty nine million, nine hundred ninety thousand, Like I'm

3071
02:34:44,360 --> 02:34:46,680
Speaker 2: gonna need all that every dime.

3072
02:34:47,040 --> 02:34:49,200
Speaker 3: Fuck out of the job I wanted to requires me

3073
02:34:49,320 --> 02:34:50,720
Speaker 3: to go back to school first.

3074
02:34:50,720 --> 02:34:52,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

3075
02:34:52,320 --> 02:34:55,080
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm going I want to be a doctor. I

3076
02:34:55,200 --> 02:34:59,160
Speaker 2: want to solve cancer. So you have to look for

3077
02:34:59,240 --> 02:35:01,920
Speaker 2: a job, right, I'm gonna look for a job. This

3078
02:35:02,080 --> 02:35:03,720
Speaker 2: part of it, this part of me looking for the

3079
02:35:03,800 --> 02:35:07,080
Speaker 2: new job, is me getting my doctorate. Yeah all right, man,

3080
02:35:07,160 --> 02:35:10,400
Speaker 2: that's it. We done almost five hours and I said

3081
02:35:10,440 --> 02:35:13,280
Speaker 2: it would be short, but I never could short change y'all. Man,

3082
02:35:13,360 --> 02:35:15,240
Speaker 2: y'all pay it's early.

3083
02:35:15,879 --> 02:35:20,160
Speaker 4: We value y'all. I missed justin. I wanted to talk

3084
02:35:20,240 --> 02:35:24,120
Speaker 4: my shit. I hope y'all got everything y'all wanted out

3085
02:35:24,160 --> 02:35:24,320
Speaker 4: of this.

3086
02:35:24,640 --> 02:35:27,920
Speaker 2: Make sure y'all leave comments, let us know it's appreciated,

3087
02:35:27,959 --> 02:35:30,160
Speaker 2: because I still got to do feedback show at some

3088
02:35:30,280 --> 02:35:31,320
Speaker 2: point today.

3089
02:35:34,840 --> 02:35:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta either go for a well.

3090
02:35:37,000 --> 02:35:39,959
Speaker 2: I did the gym last night, so because I knew

3091
02:35:40,280 --> 02:35:42,840
Speaker 2: today might be one of them days. So instead of

3092
02:35:42,920 --> 02:35:46,880
Speaker 2: going to the gym today in the middle and putting

3093
02:35:46,879 --> 02:35:49,080
Speaker 2: that pressure on me to get there by six, I

3094
02:35:49,280 --> 02:35:51,760
Speaker 2: was like, let me do that. I did the gym

3095
02:35:51,800 --> 02:35:55,600
Speaker 2: at like seven eight o'clock last night, you know, because

3096
02:35:55,600 --> 02:35:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm trying to stay committed and get these goals.

3097
02:35:57,760 --> 02:35:57,960
Speaker 4: Man.

3098
02:35:58,080 --> 02:36:01,360
Speaker 2: So anyway, I might take a break to get some

3099
02:36:01,480 --> 02:36:03,600
Speaker 2: food and then come back and do the feedback show

3100
02:36:03,680 --> 02:36:06,600
Speaker 2: or whatever. So thank you all for listening. I hope

3101
02:36:06,600 --> 02:36:09,199
Speaker 2: you all enjoyed it. I hope you'll appreciate it, and we'll.

3102
02:36:09,120 --> 02:36:14,320
Speaker 4: Be back next week. Until then, peace peace brought to

3103
02:36:14,320 --> 02:36:15,640
Speaker 4: you Braughti, bay Fandue