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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments

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Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment

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Speaker 1: laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is

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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. Hey, speaking of pay dirt, we are

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Speaker 1: a thrill to be joined by one of the very

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Speaker 1: faces on Mount Zeitemore. She is an Emmy nominated writer,

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Speaker 1: an artist, and comedian behind acclaimed one woman shows such

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Speaker 1: as boss UMA's Girl and Mrs Joseph Chestnut America USA,

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Speaker 1: and the acclaimed podcast The Bechdel Cast. My You're a

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Speaker 1: mental lead to podcast Vultures Number one, Podcast one at

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Speaker 1: cast Ghost Church. It's Jamie fucking laugh. May they come back? Checking? Math?

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Speaker 1: Stop fooding? Can they come back? We can make up

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Speaker 1: over them bonies. Guys. I'm so glad we've saddled the score.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that was such a god You guys

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Speaker 1: are too good for Jamie and Lacey. Now. I'm always like,

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Speaker 1: it's funny that happens. I'm like, do you know that

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Speaker 1: they're massively successful and have actually gone have gone past

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Speaker 1: with this show? Is that's kind of what's happening. Me

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Speaker 1: and Lazy immediately had to be like, what are you

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Speaker 1: talking about? But the person just acted as if an

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Speaker 1: in classic in classic Twitter behavior, pretended we had not

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Speaker 1: said anything, did not respond to us, and was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Something seems fishy here do you? I

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Speaker 1: don't know another season of I Carley, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: More activity for James's career. I guess how can they

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Speaker 1: fit Daily Site geist into that? M Look, I love

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Speaker 1: the conspiracy theories. Keep them coming. We all like each other.

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Speaker 1: We're bored. We were pissed Jamie all the time. We're

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Speaker 1: going to tell you and you guys can go back

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Speaker 1: and listen to the last three episodes. James was on

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Speaker 1: to figure out what she said that really Jackson doesn't email.

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Speaker 1: That was like, we're not saying never again, but not

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Speaker 1: for a while. Okay, not for a while. But got

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Speaker 1: my lord michaels On a big money player. It's great

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Speaker 1: to see you. Oh, it's great to see you too,

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Speaker 1: I was saying. Before we started recording, I got like

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Speaker 1: that old Daily Side guys feeling. I got butterflies in

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Speaker 1: is over and rated? What is underrated. My history is

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Speaker 1: a disaster. Remember the beginning of the pandemic, and it

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Speaker 1: was just the three of us. It was just the

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Speaker 1: three of us for like trying to fucking makes sense

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Speaker 1: of it all. That was such a I still think

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Speaker 1: back at that and I'm like, God, what what early

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Speaker 1: like the first two months where we were just like, um,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, like is this funny yet? The answer was no,

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Speaker 1: But like, man, what Rudy Giuliani told us that we're

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Speaker 1: allowed to be funny again? Oh my god? And I

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest problem I have with him is

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Speaker 1: too much what is something from your search history? Oh yeah?

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Speaker 1: So so I this was prompted recently by seeing that

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Speaker 1: Eminem and Snoop Dogg did a concert with their board

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Speaker 1: I ended up getting into this weird internet deep dive

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Speaker 1: learning a lot about mc scat Cat, who is the

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Speaker 1: So he was like a real life and I was

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Speaker 1: just thinking I would pay like hundreds of dollars to

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Speaker 1: I mean, and it was. It wasn't my wedding song,

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Speaker 1: this animation. What are we gonna do? It still seems

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Speaker 1: you could hold that in your hand and it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: C scat Cat and the Stream Mob are probably worth

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Speaker 1: more than the fucking n f T s that Snoop

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Speaker 1: I think you're probably right. I also learned that he

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Speaker 1: about recycling yes, and it's called yakty Yak Take It Back.

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Speaker 1: Yak andy Yak. That's what the kids like. That's so

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Speaker 1: like specific to a very to a time period, like

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Speaker 1: remember thinking, like, I really like that song, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, I'm I'm gonna help this problem. These I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna help these crypts and Bloods start to get along

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Speaker 1: young mcs rapping yeah by buying a single. Yeah, oh Mike,

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Speaker 1: can you imagine? It's like if mc scat cat really

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Speaker 1: like something from a French satire about American culture, like

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Speaker 1: Who's he performing with? Who? When old NBA cheerleader? She's

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Speaker 1: the biggest pop act in America right now? I mean

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Speaker 1: great great artists, if you if you, Yeah, I did

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Speaker 1: and uh a great. You know, dance designer is not

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Speaker 1: who designs the dances really really I didn't realize the

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Speaker 1: whole like there were a couple of characters, Like you

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Speaker 1: Wu Tang. There's a lot of members. There's see Scat Cat, Fats, Taboo, Maestro, Leo,

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Speaker 1: Kat Lean and silk mm hmm, and Diats Diamond and silk,

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Speaker 1: Diamond and silk. They were all diamond. They became right

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Speaker 1: wing pundits later they're they've just been People don't realize

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Speaker 1: they're mostly rapping about Hunter Button. They said they were

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Speaker 1: part of the stray Mob. Was the stray Mob all cats?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Maestro, you'd hope Maestro. I don't know I've

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Speaker 1: seen I haven't seen a full image of the stray Mob,

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Speaker 1: but you'd think Maestro would be a mice. Yeah okay,

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Speaker 1: rat Oh whoa, Yeah, that's fun. Okay, okay, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh, you don't have the Japanese single, right,

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Speaker 1: much more interesting path for Uh did you know that

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Speaker 1: Romany Malco wrote the m c scat cat first? No,

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Speaker 1: I gotta start somewhere. Yeah, that's this big break. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what is what something you guys think is overrated? I

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Speaker 1: Carolina looks stumped, so let me jump in. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I I think I think data privacy is is overweighted.

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Speaker 1: I completely agree with Devin, but I have my own

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Speaker 1: because this is just like Carolina. Carolina will famously go

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Speaker 1: to a restaurant, wait for me to order, and then

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Speaker 1: not saying I'll have the same, but like order it.

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Speaker 1: Like this may have happened once and the only reason

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Speaker 1: Devon's mad is because she likes to eat everything and

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Speaker 1: doesn't want dust to get the same meal so she

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Speaker 1: can have a bite of whatever I'm happening. Okay, this

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Speaker 1: is some early two thousands era insults. Um, Devon's just

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Speaker 1: actually likes to eat everything. I went to Devon out

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Speaker 1: to dinner with Will Farrell, and she whispered to me

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Speaker 1: before dinner started that she was nervous because it was

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Speaker 1: So I had to announce at the table as if

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Speaker 1: I were her mother, like, by the way, Devon's gonna

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Speaker 1: get her own plate and she's going to eat it

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Speaker 1: by herself. And Devon just nodded silently, and you're not

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Speaker 1: allowed to look at her exactly. And also, tappa top

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Speaker 1: us are overrated, no offense to anyone, but I think

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Speaker 1: I think data privacy is overrated because think back to

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Speaker 1: the days when you had to go to a store

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Speaker 1: and human beings would come up to you, disgusting human

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Speaker 1: obnoxious human beings would come up to you and say like,

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Speaker 1: why don't you try this? Like what do you think

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Speaker 1: of that? Like trying this on? This would look good?

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Speaker 1: What are you looking for. What are you shopping for today?

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Speaker 1: That is hell And what our lack of data privacy

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Speaker 1: we didn't know that we were losing all our rights

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Speaker 1: to privacy, made it possible for us to skip that step.

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Speaker 1: Everything we want just gets shown to us, like the

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Speaker 1: wedding singer when I don't know what to watch on

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Speaker 1: a Saturday afternoon, and now people all just want to

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Speaker 1: be like I want, they're gonna take Gary Alexa is

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Speaker 1: listening to you? First of all, are you doing anything

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Speaker 1: and like, like I feel like we should be doing

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Speaker 1: that with things like ampheta. Means we've already seen that

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Speaker 1: those are bad for leadership and like lead you down

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Speaker 1: a dark path with the Nazis, So like maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: not that, maybe they shouldn't be allowed to do that

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Speaker 1: and be president at the same time. Yeah, but I'm

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Speaker 1: talked to the mushroom king, Yeah, talked, thank you, man.

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Speaker 1: I would be Joe Biden's shrooms are right, I like

432
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 1: that just a little yeah, and then just like sitting

433
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Speaker 1: there next to the fire and have a think for

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Speaker 1: like twenty four hours on that just I'm like, I'm like, Joe,

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00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: don't say anything. Let's just look at each other for

436
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: the next one week each other. Let's see where it goes.

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00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: Let's see where this goes. But it's what, like, it's

438
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: funny too, because even though we joke about this, it's

439
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: like every fucking week there's a new thing about the

440
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: benefits of psychedelics, like psychedelic research. That study just came

441
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: out about psilocybin and treating alcoholism and like how that

442
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: could be a very potent combination to help people. And

443
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: we're like, God, damn it, man, so many answers sucking

444
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: right in front of us, and not just in front

445
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: of us, like literally grown out of the earth, and

446
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: we're like racing everything on all the problems literally on earth.

447
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: And I will say about Biden, you know, uh, I

448
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: don't even know. I don't think what what hallucinogenics do

449
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: is teach you empathy. They do, they like that's a

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Speaker 1: big part of it. But Biden does have empathy, So that.

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Speaker 1: I I'm not. I'm not sure he's an eight an

452
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Speaker 1: eighty year old man needs to start tripping for the

453
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Speaker 1: first time, but say it's very good for end of life.

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Speaker 1: He's not. He's not gonna die. Okay, two more years.

455
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Speaker 1: He great, He looked great. I've never seen skin so

456
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: such a healthy, great tone like that. It is impressive.

457
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Speaker 1: Imagine I can't get out of bed every day. I

458
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Speaker 1: get up every day early. Gotta you know, I gotta

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Speaker 1: be woken up. I feel like for how old Joe

460
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: Biden is and having to work, that's like us, like

461
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: being hung over as ship and having to go to

462
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Speaker 1: work and pretend you're not hungover. I went out last night.

463
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Speaker 1: I almost canceled on his podcast. I was all right,

464
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Speaker 1: let's take a quick break, we'll come back. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about the other side of the aisle. And they're they're

466
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Speaker 1: branding problems. Oh ship, it turns out we're demons and

467
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Speaker 1: people don't like that. And we're back, and we have

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Speaker 1: an update from the Minneapolis Police Department. And just like generally,

469
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Speaker 1: the police have been really good at dealing with criticism

470
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Speaker 1: and historically, yes, historically, have you did you guys watched

471
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Speaker 1: we own the city. I watched the pilot and then

472
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Speaker 1: I was like, this is so heavy, classic classic white

473
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: privilege thing to say. I was like, this is so heavy.

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Speaker 1: I have to put this aside for later. I learned

475
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Speaker 1: about this later. It's it's based on it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of same like people being bad cops repeatedly, which is

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Speaker 1: a criticism I've heard. I find it pretty entertaining. But

478
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Speaker 1: like one of the big plot points is that after

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Speaker 1: the Freddie Gray protests, the police just like stopped policing

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Speaker 1: and stopped even leaving their squad cars like when they

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Speaker 1: came to a crime. So that's that's one example. And

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Speaker 1: YPD went on strike and crime went down. You're kidding,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, like in Minneapolis specifically. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of like attention on the Minneapolis Police

485
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Speaker 1: Department because there's a like a lot of calls and

486
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Speaker 1: like defunding the police there, and people were like, yeah,

487
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: there was a lot of momentum to that. But the

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Speaker 1: biggest bite that was actually sort of taken out of

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Speaker 1: their policing budget was like about eight million dollars. Despite

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Speaker 1: what cop humpers across the political spectrum we're saying, and

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Speaker 1: the city also like eventually voted to like not reform

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Speaker 1: the police department as like a department for public safety.

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Speaker 1: So the blue line, you know, survived in that instance.

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Speaker 1: But by this year now like their budgets are actually

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Speaker 1: higher than they were pre George Floyd. So all's well,

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00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: that ends well for them, But there's like there's there's

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Speaker 1: there's mounting crisis with the city because the police are

498
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: basically just draining the fucking city budget with all their ships.

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Speaker 1: So to start off, there's been an exodus of police

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Speaker 1: officers who have left because their feelings were just hurt

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Speaker 1: by the protests, nearly three hundred officers. This is from

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Speaker 1: this piece of Mother Jones saying that nearly three hundred

503
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Speaker 1: officers left the department since Floyd's murder. That's a third

504
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: of the force, and two hundred of them have left

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Speaker 1: with workers comp settlement checks and lucrative disability pensions based

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Speaker 1: on their claims that the policing at the protests of

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Speaker 1: gave them PTSD the feelings, and so now they are

508
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: getting huge checks to not even fucking work anymore. And

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Speaker 1: the city has estimated to pay about thirty five million

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Speaker 1: in these disability claims and these like workers comp settlements

511
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: like since left, yeah, and and like and these are

512
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Speaker 1: cops that have like some of these cops have like

513
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Speaker 1: extensive records of misconduct, like leading to killings and just

514
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Speaker 1: all kinds of just shitty behavior. So this is slowly

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Speaker 1: creating this like fiscal omni crisis. And that's just sort

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Speaker 1: of one dimension of it. Because here's the other huge number.

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Speaker 1: The city has paid out eleven one hundred eleven million

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Speaker 1: dollars in settlements to people that were fucking brutalized by

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Speaker 1: the Minneapolis police in the first fifteen days after George

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Speaker 1: Floyd's murder. They're saying all the misconduct from the first

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Speaker 1: fifteenth day in response to that murder has turned into

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Speaker 1: one million dollars in settlements. So city officials are now

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Speaker 1: like kind of in a bind because on one hand,

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Speaker 1: they're like, well, this is fucking too much, Like they're

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Speaker 1: just taking off with all this money for reasons like

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Speaker 1: we're not totally aligned with but also if they go

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Speaker 1: to court and try and fight it, they could end

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Speaker 1: up paying even more. So you know, they're in a

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Speaker 1: bit of a buyd just being like, so we raised

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Speaker 1: taxes and then cut back other programs to offset the

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Speaker 1: cost of just having to deal with the police in

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Speaker 1: our city. It's just a very it's a very fucked

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Speaker 1: up situation as you look at it, because even if

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Speaker 1: you you know, as they even ideated around, it turns

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Speaker 1: out it's they like the cops basically played like a

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Speaker 1: uh no reverse card on the city. Right. I would

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Speaker 1: love to read a quick quote by Miriam Kabba. She's

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Speaker 1: an amazing abolitionist, and I think it goes into what

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Speaker 1: you guys said, But she said, if we say any

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Speaker 1: think about the impunity with which they harm people, this

541
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Speaker 1: is going to hurt their feelings, and hurt feelings equals

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Speaker 1: massive crime. It sounds ridiculous if you actually think about it,

543
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Speaker 1: but it is convincing to vast swaths of the country.

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Speaker 1: What other profession do we say that because they have

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00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: low morale, we have to suffer violence as a result.

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Speaker 1: So it's this idea that like we need to fucking

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Speaker 1: get Blue Lives Matter tattooed on our bodies to show

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00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: police their support or else someone's gonna murder us. It's

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00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: this crazy idea and it's completely mythical, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's also much more influenced hate to say it because

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00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: I was a huge fan of the show and it

552
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: got me through college Dick Wolf's Law and Order. I

553
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: think it's plagues the nation more than we even know,

554
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: and it's given us this collective story that they are

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Speaker 1: here they work all the time to solve crime, when

556
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: really they're just writing parking tickets or killing people over

557
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: a disputed twenty bill or you know, like recently happened

558
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: and um pulling over a pregnant black mother with her

559
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: children in the car and pulling their gun on her.

560
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: Her entire pop culture like of you know, my favorite

561
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: pop culture was like eighties movies, where like die Hard

562
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: was my favorite movie most of my life. And like

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00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: that's just like a no nonsense cop who like is

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00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: just there and using violence like at his own discretion.

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Speaker 1: And like, yeah, I mean the whole the whole thing

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Speaker 1: is like built on that, and like that, I feel

567
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: like that is a large part of Like it's not

568
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: necessarily even the bureaucratic stuff as much as it's just

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Speaker 1: like how deeply ingrained culturally. So much of this ship

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00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: is that, like our ideas around safety, right, this is

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Speaker 1: something we talked about with our guests yesterday, Seth about

572
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Speaker 1: like being able to break out of just like this

573
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: sort of reflective thinking where people here most people say

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Speaker 1: they hear defund the police. That means no police. That

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00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: means violent dystopia. And that's the only that's the only

576
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: conclusion from that term, from that phrase, rather than can

577
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: we sit down and actually understand what the root causes

578
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: of crime was? Crime? Are you wonder why people who

579
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: are wealthy typically aren't the ones shoplifting or stealing cars

580
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: because they have the means to these aren't serve they

581
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: don't commit survival crime. A lot of time we're just

582
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: being like, this is how people are surviving because they're

583
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Speaker 1: excluded from the traditional economy. So that's what this looks like,

584
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: rather than yo, man, they need fucking you know, fucking

585
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Speaker 1: gatling guns and ship and you know, bigger trucks and

586
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: all this other ship and we kind of fall in

587
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: this absurd problem solving mode when really it seems like

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00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: the thing is public safety. How do we keep the

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Speaker 1: public safe? And who does that? And there's probably there's

590
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: so there's so much nuance to it that not everything

591
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Speaker 1: has to be responded to with agro person that's armed

592
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Speaker 1: to the fucking hill. Well, think about when you call

593
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Speaker 1: the police. You don't call the police before violence has occurred.

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00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: You don't call the police before property theft. You call

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00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: the police after. How how can we say then they

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00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: prevent anything like that? It's just this weird backwards way

597
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: of thinking about life in terms of punishment rather than

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00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: a social network that gives people more options than two

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00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: resort to petty theft or which is you know most

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Speaker 1: of what the police are doing right now. For instance,

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Speaker 1: there was something so it would be funny if it

602
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: wasn't so fucking tragic. There was a picture of a

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00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: black woman from a seven eleven camera and the police

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00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: released it saying she was wanted for stealing a slim

605
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: gym mhm. The resources alone going into that are fucking ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: When a woman is stealing food, it makes me insane.

607
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: It makes me really sad, and I think it's like

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00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: the biggest just mold on our country. I think that's

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Speaker 1: like the thing that when you feel that frustration is

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00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: like really having to encourage people around you that to

611
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: be like the option isn't a dystopia, just so you know,

612
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: because we're already there the idea that you are exactly

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Speaker 1: police even more in giving them more weapons. That's the

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00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: fucking dystopia, not the version where cops are like solving

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00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: certain kinds of crime while also like supporting human beings

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00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: to try and elevate them out of situations that caused

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00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: them to do what you know, the police called extra

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00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: legal activity or whatever. So I just think that of

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Speaker 1: white children. If white children of white people were being

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Speaker 1: affected this way, if a white fifteen year old foster

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Speaker 1: child had been tasted or shot, this conversation would not

622
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Speaker 1: be radical at all. And the fact that it's radical

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00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: just speaks directly to race. And I think you know,

624
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: when people were every you know, anyone with a working

625
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: brain and heart was so horrified. But what was going

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Speaker 1: on in the summer of even though it's what goes

627
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: on all the time. But the fact that when you

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Speaker 1: mentioned abolition, people are defunding the police, people were acting

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Speaker 1: like that was a radical reaction meant that a, we're

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00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: not looking at these people like their own. They were

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00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: looking at these people like not my problems to be

632
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: corralled in control. It's already a dystopia for someone, you know,

633
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: for dystopia for someone it's a normal reaction to someone

634
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: saying like, yeah, this isn't a safe world. You know,

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00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: this isn't a protection to me at all. Yeah, Miriam

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Speaker 1: Kabba talks about abolition is not is about building something

637
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: rather than removing something. It's about building social networks, not

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00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: about just removing one part of the country. Yeah, which

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Speaker 1: is our militarized police. We're talking about. Alec Carrick Kitsans.

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Speaker 1: I think another like kind of huge part of the

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Speaker 1: edifice of like the pro police, Like can't can't possibly

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Speaker 1: imagine a reality without police. Is the way that the

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Speaker 1: like local local media especially, but I mean definitely the

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Speaker 1: New York Times and you know national media as well,

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Speaker 1: just use the police as an unquestioning the only source

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Speaker 1: on like most most things. It's pretty fun crazy, So

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Speaker 1: go follow Eric, Alec Karrik and Sanis. He spends all

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Speaker 1: his time and energy just going one news story after another,

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Speaker 1: just being like all right, so here's here's another one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah Yeah. And he's also like runs a huge fund

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Speaker 1: that helps fight human caging. So there there's another story

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Speaker 1: that I think kind of reminded me of this problem

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Speaker 1: that so it's completely different, but it's another one of

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Speaker 1: these institutions that is unquestionably just given Carte blanche to

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Speaker 1: like do whatever the funk it wants. And that's like corporations,

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Speaker 1: and just like corporations acting within a market. That there's

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Speaker 1: this article from over the weekend where the Wall Street

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Speaker 1: Journal like published thing Disney's new pricing magic more profit

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Speaker 1: from fewer park visitors, and they're just like amazed. They're

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Speaker 1: they're like speaking approvingly in economic terms about how the

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Speaker 1: company has raised some prices and eliminated or started charging

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Speaker 1: for other services and features that used to be free

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Speaker 1: and calling it like pricing magic and the like the

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Speaker 1: New York Times Mickey Mouse was the one came up

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Speaker 1: with that genius, and the New York Times another thing

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Speaker 1: that was like, well with Biden forgiving certain debt, like

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Speaker 1: colleges are just going to charge more because now they

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Speaker 1: can just like bacon that ten thous dollars into the

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Speaker 1: price and that money goes to them and they don't

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Speaker 1: have to like worry, they don't have to worry about

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Speaker 1: it basically, and like that's just how they're like in

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Speaker 1: both cases, it's companies doing what is objectively like you know,

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Speaker 1: just like bad bad ship, like taking advantage of the

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Speaker 1: of the pandemic to like discriminated against. Yeah, it's like

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Speaker 1: using the magic of the pandemic. I'm sorry to discriminate

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Speaker 1: against like the lower earning part of your consumer base.

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Speaker 1: And then on the college front, it's like exacerbating a

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Speaker 1: problem that we're already acknowledging as like a huge, massive

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Speaker 1: problem in the country. But in both cases it's not

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Speaker 1: treated as like a normative thing. It's like objective. They

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Speaker 1: just treated as like an objective fact that this is

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Speaker 1: what corporations do, this is like smart business, and it's

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just very frustrating. And again it

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Speaker 1: feels like the sort of thing that we've just lost

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Speaker 1: the ability to imagine or I don't know, it's not

686
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Speaker 1: like these damn people like we've lost our imagination. It's

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Speaker 1: that we've never been given an opportunity to imagine anything

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Speaker 1: other than a world that is ruled by corporations and

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Speaker 1: you know, the market forces. No, they're definitely there in

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Speaker 1: charge of the narrative. I mean, you're talking about Disney,

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Speaker 1: which is a storyteller. You know, like it sounds paranoid,

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Speaker 1: but it's or you know, like a conspiracy theory. But no,

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Speaker 1: these are people who literally build the stories that reminds

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Speaker 1: me of Ivanka Trump saying that she knew more about

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Speaker 1: working people than AOC and that she thought that that

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Speaker 1: she knew that Americans want to work for their money.

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Speaker 1: And I was wild. I was like, that is the

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Speaker 1: craziest thing I've ever fucking heard. As if like, the

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Speaker 1: problem is, like I want to work more like a woman,

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Speaker 1: you know, a mother of five who works at the

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Speaker 1: Walmart cash register, Like, actually her problem is that she

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Speaker 1: hates tax cuts because she loves working there. Well, Ivanka

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Speaker 1: is I actually have a bunch of Vanka quotes that

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Speaker 1: I was gonna pull, but it sounds like yeah, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: actually Caroline is here. Well, we'll actually do it after

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Speaker 1: they leave. That's problem. I know. She's one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite American philosophies. Yeah, it's just incredible. Oh yeah, there's throw,

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Speaker 1: there's um Ivanka, there's the kushion are Yeah, well, Carolina Devon,

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Speaker 1: truly a pleasure having both of you on the daily, Like,

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Speaker 1: I know you have to bounce a little bit early.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Again?

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Speaker 1: We want to blame our early absence on the comedian

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Speaker 1: Will Farell. That's right, we didn't blame it. We didn't

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Speaker 1: blame him. Monster Cruell person, a cruel person. Just kidding.

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Speaker 1: He's a truly an angel on earth. Yeah, unbelievable. He

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Speaker 1: wore a T shirt during the pandemic that said pay

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Speaker 1: teachers more because he was getting papped all the time

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Speaker 1: outside of his house. And you can please listen to

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Speaker 1: us on True Romance. That is on Apple Podcasts or

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast and I Heeart Radio. It's

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Speaker 1: production produced by iHeart Big Money players Will Ferrell's podcast

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Speaker 1: Now Work and Funny Story. One of the first people

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Speaker 1: we pitched it too was Jack O'Brien, your co host,

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Speaker 1: who kicked us out of the room and he said,

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Speaker 1: that's disgusting. No one's going to want to hear about

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Speaker 1: your romance. So who's it going to be hosted by? Though,

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Speaker 1: that's what I understand. Who are the two fellas you're

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Speaker 1: going to bring into You know, I remember that too,

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Speaker 1: when you're my life is actually stranger than if I

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Speaker 1: even wrote it as fiction, and that that was enough.

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Speaker 1: I think they got stories. Yeah, we do have, so

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Speaker 1: let me just please step in for a second. Caroline

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Speaker 1: at my Green Square. Also, you can follow us on

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Speaker 1: Instagram at True Romance Pod on Twitter at True Romance Pod. Also,

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Speaker 1: I have a new Instagram because I had to go

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Speaker 1: through a breakup and then I had to delete my

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Speaker 1: whole instagrams. Tragic are that? And so please follow me

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Speaker 1: on at Devon Underscore Hunter Underscore Leary. It's the same

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Speaker 1: thing as before, but with underscores and that'd be great. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: And I'm at Carolina Rose Barlow on Instagram. We are

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Speaker 1: so happy that we got to jump on with you

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Speaker 1: guys on We're huge fans of t DZ and um

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Speaker 1: a cab. There you go, there you go so much.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Just Miles and I, just the just the dudes, and

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Speaker 1: we're back and it is time, of course. Do we

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Speaker 1: have a theme song yet for on a streaming corner?

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Speaker 1: I mean I have one? Yeah, here we go once again.

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Speaker 1: It's time for super producer on an is on a

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Speaker 1: streaming corner. It and a streaming corner have a hubbaboo

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes later and thank you. Wow, And that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what I wanted. Like eleven from Sucking Strangers, it's like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, more blood's coming out of both not

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Speaker 1: something bad about to happen. What's a dead like, do

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Speaker 1: you assume it's the persons in more trouble if they

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Speaker 1: have a nosebleed after something weird like supernaturally happens or

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Speaker 1: an ear bleed. I feel like ear bleed is freaking earbed.

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Speaker 1: Air bleede feels personal? Yes, is that more brain? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that feels like you're dead or you're like going to

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Speaker 1: not be well after. I do feel like maybe the

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Speaker 1: nose is a direct pipeline to the brain as well,

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Speaker 1: And you always say that that's the pipeline the eye.

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Speaker 1: The nose is a direct pipeline to the soul. On

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Speaker 1: a it's it's wonderful to have you back. We kind

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Speaker 1: of have unofficial streaming corners whenever you tell us to

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Speaker 1: watch something and we actually do it. But this is

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Speaker 1: this one demanded on like for all the world to

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Speaker 1: see the rehearsal mm hmm, did you watch it? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Of course, are you kidding? I was always the first

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Speaker 1: person to watch because I watched the exactly eight pm

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Speaker 1: on the dock Friday nights PST when it dropped at

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Speaker 1: eleven e s T. And then I would immediately go,

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Speaker 1: I am unwell to the you would wait till Saturday morning.

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Speaker 1: It's like, it's like, fucking man, it came out last night,

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Speaker 1: and then you're like, did you see it went even

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Speaker 1: more off the rails And I'm like I'm about to

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Speaker 1: jump in. Yeah, yeah, what a show? What a show.

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Speaker 1: Nathan Fielder truly, I don't know. I really like him.

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Speaker 1: I saw him live once. I was talking about it,

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Speaker 1: and he did the He just pulled people up on

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Speaker 1: stage that he thought looked weird and had interesting conversations

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Speaker 1: with him. Like that is his his singular skill is

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Speaker 1: finding weird people and being able to just dig in

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Speaker 1: with them and have interesting conversations. Well, I guess broadly,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious to everybody here that I feel like the

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Speaker 1: one for people there. I think like there's a group

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Speaker 1: of people who knew Nathan Fielder and watched it and

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Speaker 1: we're like wow. Then there are people who never heard

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Speaker 1: of Nathan Fielder and saw this, like what is wrong

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Speaker 1: with this guy? Like he's monotone. He seems like he's

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Speaker 1: so arrogant, And so I guess the first biggest thing

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Speaker 1: is that I like, I just want to read a

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Speaker 1: criticism of the show just to get everybody's take is

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Speaker 1: that people felt that he was like cruel and arrogant.

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Speaker 1: There's I'm going to read from this New Yorker review

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Speaker 1: of the show quote Fielders manifest still impressed with his

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Speaker 1: own methods and his own acumen. At that moment, barely

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Speaker 1: five minutes into the first episode, I wanted to throw

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Speaker 1: my laptop across the room or just to throw Nathan

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Speaker 1: field or out of it. Not only uh is this

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Speaker 1: not He's talking about the time when he sends the

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Speaker 1: gas company in to like to map the guy's apartment

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Speaker 1: and he said, like, start breaking down. I feel like

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Speaker 1: Richard Brody's going through something. Not only is the gas

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Speaker 1: crew deception itself a reckless betrayal, but the gaze of

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Speaker 1: superiority and dominance that he casts upon core struck me

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Speaker 1: as arrogant, cruel, and above all indifferent. Yeah, I saying

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Speaker 1: that like five minutes and you were like angry to

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Speaker 1: the point of like violence. I think is is revealing.

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Speaker 1: I I get like the that's definitely a thought that

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Speaker 1: is on your mind where you're watching it. I think

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Speaker 1: I do tend to like think that these portraits of

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Speaker 1: these people are really interesting, and like I don't know what,

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Speaker 1: whether it's exactly how they would want to be viewed,

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Speaker 1: it is the most interesting portrait of someone like Angela

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Speaker 1: or Core or Core's trivia friend that I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: in art, like the most like humane, and I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it felt empathetic to me. You know What's what was

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Speaker 1: your response to when you tell people to watch the show?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm sure like anybody's like, did you watch it?

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Speaker 1: And some people are like, I don't know, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm of the the sort of realm of like, don't

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Speaker 1: stop writing thing pieces on Nathan Fielder shows, I think

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Speaker 1: you need to let go and let love, as it

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Speaker 1: says on my wall, as you can see behind me.

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Speaker 1: But like it's I feel like every Nathan Fielder show

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Speaker 1: is an examination of Nathan's own anxiety and issues and

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Speaker 1: frustrations with his own like existence. That's every Nathan Fielder show.

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Speaker 1: It's just like him being like I got good great,

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Speaker 1: so I think I'm good at business and you're like,

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Speaker 1: well you didn't, but you seem to think you are,

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Speaker 1: so whatever, go do your thing. And then this is

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Speaker 1: like the whole reason the rehearsal exists is because Nathan

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Speaker 1: is like an anxious, socially awkward person, which it says

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Speaker 1: multiple times. So he's like, well, I've figured out how

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Speaker 1: to uh rehearse every interaction, which immediately is like okay, dude,

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Speaker 1: you're a fucking weirdo. And he's like, so I've decided

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Speaker 1: to give this great skill of mine to others, which

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Speaker 1: is exactly what Nathan for you was. It's literally, Nathan

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Speaker 1: for you. I'm giving you this really absurd thing that

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Speaker 1: I've come up with back to the people, even though

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00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: nobody asked for it. And I think that's all it is.

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00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: It's not as deep as people think it is. Of like, wow,

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Speaker 1: looking him destroying humans, like all these people like, it's

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Speaker 1: actually not these people exist. Nathan just started interacting with

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Speaker 1: them because he himself found it interesting. And it's in

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Speaker 1: a way he's being like, oh, look, I found someone

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Speaker 1: who's maybe weirder than me. Let me talk to them

849
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: because I'm curious of how they exist. And you're like, okay,

850
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: I don't in a way like think like I think

851
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: all these people are interesting. The only person who I

852
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: literally was like I do not funk with you was

853
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: Miriam the Zionist. That was the only person that I

854
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: turned on the whole time, and she didn't even start

855
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: out as like a weirdo and then she pivoted like

856
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: Miriam immediately, I listened to the Ringer podcast about this

857
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: show to like jog my memory, and then I was like, oh,

858
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: this is not good and just rewatched a couple episodes.

859
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: But the Ringer podcast about this they bring up that episode,

860
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: but they're just like I loved her. She like that

861
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: end art where she like, She's so glad Angela's gone,

862
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: and I'm so glad Angela's gone too, and it's just

863
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: like a warm, celebratory It's like she's talking about she

864
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: kept talking to that part. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, look,

865
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad about you know, go ahead teach people about

866
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: the you know, Jewish culture and tradition. That's fine. The

867
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: second you try and press or someone like Nathan to

868
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: make their show like a political stance supporting Israel, because

869
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: like you know, he has a platform, you're going too

870
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: far to be like you need to side against Palestinian

871
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: people on your show, right, well, those people they were

872
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: going to be bombed, Like what are you saying? That

873
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: was an interesting thing because a lot of a few

874
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 1: Jewish news outlets like grappled to the show in different ways,

875
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: like this one website. First they're like saying, like how

876
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 1: Judaism and cabala is essential to understanding like the show.

877
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: And then when the finale happened that same thing, it's

878
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: so weird how some people absolutely do not get what

879
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: he's doing. They were like, we really did not like

880
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: the fact that he had to renounce his Judaism his

881
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: religion to that child in the finale and say I'm

882
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: going to hell and I'm going to be burning in

883
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: hell because I'm not Christian. And it's like, I think

884
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 1: you're missing the point entirely. They're like, what that wasn't

885
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: that he was made to do anything like that, if any,

886
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: And he's sort of like underscoring this absurdity of how

887
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: children are indoctrinated, where like because most kids have no

888
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: concept of what religion or if they need it for themselves,

889
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: it's just easier to grasp this framing of like it's

890
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: us versus them. We do good those people burn in

891
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: hell because that's like what the parents like, the kid

892
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: doesn't know about christian anymore. Do the talk to the

893
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: kid and he's like, okay, in kid terms, I'm bad

894
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: and evil. You're gonna be good. That's what you want, right,

895
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: And they're like, how could you do that? And that's

896
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: you're calling attention to, Like how absurd it was that

897
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: the mom would make that request at all, right, And

898
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: it felt like by the time he got to that point,

899
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: he was just trying to make right by all the

900
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: kids because he had then accidentally became a father figure

901
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: to a child actor who didn't know any better. And

902
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: he was like, ah, and child actors even the one

903
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to say about the parenting thing, like

904
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: what my initial response to the whole show was like,

905
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: holy sh it, I will never First of all, kids

906
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: are way better actors than everybody else teenage, those those kids,

907
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: but also like it seems super immoral. But like on

908
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: rewatching some of the early episodes, there's like these moments

909
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: where he's asking like a mom of one of the babies,

910
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: like the actual like babies in a crib, like can't

911
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: even like pull themselves up if like she's cool if

912
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: rob them like gets involved as like the father figure

913
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, I don't know, they seem to

914
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: get along shirt whatever, like and it reminds me like kids,

915
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: so if you're just watching one episode of like the

916
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: six year old calling him daddy and saying I missed Daddy,

917
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: Like it is it that ship like broke my heart

918
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: for sure, and like made the whole thing seem super

919
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: like funked up at the same time, like kids have

920
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: like a favorite person that they're obsessed with for twenty

921
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: four hours and then just like move on to a

922
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: new thing. And I feel like you see that and

923
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: some of the parents reactions where they're just like, yeah, man, whatever,

924
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: like what it's like watching people who don't have kids.

925
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: She's like about parenting and then and then like people

926
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: who have had like multiple kids just feeling yeah, man,

927
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: like yeah, that seems great. Yeah. The part where she's like,

928
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: and then I would like to use I forget what

929
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: what the oil was, lavender oil and she was like, Okay, yeah,

930
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: see if that works, give it a shot, And that

931
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: that did kind of change how I thought about it

932
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah. I think you see, especially with

933
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: the child actor stuff, you you can see some parents

934
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: relationships to how they even view their kids as acting right,

935
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: Like some people might be like, yeah, dude, I take

936
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: my baby to a set and they give me money

937
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: and it's like, baby, you've commodified your child's existence just

938
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: to be on camera. And you see like some some

939
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: of those kids were straight up child actors, right, who

940
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: are like knew how to disengage immediately and they're like, wait,

941
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: are we in a scene now or no? And then

942
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: like with that little boy Remy, I think he was

943
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: obviously way too young to be in something that was

944
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: so not a traditional acting thing, Like it wasn't on

945
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: a stage with an audience or like overt production stuff.

946
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: It's like a lot of hidden camera infrastructure. But I

947
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: think also the show does a good job of going

948
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: so absurd that you think it's not real, and then

949
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 1: it becomes so so fucking real out of nowhere, like yeah,

950
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: and just being like even in doing this thing, like

951
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: even this they're showing the mom in a way like

952
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: she's trying to do her best. She thought it was

953
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: like a good thing, but then he was sort of

954
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: getting like with every subsequent trip to that house, getting

955
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: more invested in this idea of like Nathan as his

956
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: dad and how she felt bad about it. So there's

957
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: like multiple commentaries happening about like just child acting or

958
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: parents that I think that's what's kind of really brilliant

959
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: about the shows. He says a lot of things. It's

960
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: it's absurdity. M Yeah, And I was gonna say, like,

961
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: and he didn't. And here's the thing. Nathan could have

962
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: hit all of that. He didn't have to show how

963
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: fucked up the kids get like, he didn't have to

964
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: show any of that, but the fact that he was like,

965
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: and here's how I potentially fucked up a child, and

966
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: you're like, oh God, Like he's like he continued to

967
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: show the dark side of it all regardless, and I

968
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: think like I would be more concerned about I would

969
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: actually have had more like oh if he didn't show that.

970
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: And that came out later on, like oh, there was

971
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: all these issues with the kids thinking that Nathan was

972
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: their father, and like, now you know, there's you know,

973
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: because as I was watching that, I was like, at

974
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: first I didn't know how to feel, was like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.

975
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: But then I started to be like, well, look, he's

976
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: actually trying to solve the problem. He's working towards removing

977
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: this child or like remo moving him from this child's life.

978
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: The child understands he's not actually his father and that

979
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: he's not going to be in his life. I don't know.

980
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: I think those moments speak more to like what and

981
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: who Nathan, Like what Nathan's trying to do then the

982
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: whole like wow, look at him showing making Robin look

983
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: a certain way. I'm like, Robin is who he is.

984
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: Robin's all over the internet continuing to act like Robin.

985
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: But he just like showed some light on a kind

986
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: of strange figure that exists in the world we should

987
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: talk about like the individual characters and like moments, right

988
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: like Robin for anybody who hasn't seen it, Robin is

989
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: holy sh it, Like how do you describe? I mean again,

990
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: like to your point and like he's Robbin. There was

991
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: no writer's room that came up with I crashed my

992
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: science TC Hunters an hour and came to upright on

993
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: miracle status. Yeah, that's that's read that if you wanted

994
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: to know, and if you did that, they deserve nine

995
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: thousand Emmys because I've never heard anything like that except

996
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: from someone so themselves. Right, Yeah, I don't. I mean,

997
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: I I really admire Nathan as like a personally. I

998
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: just think it's all of his stuff is really cool

999
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: and challenging and like is designed to like make us

1000
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: have a conversation like this, And so every time he

1001
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: releases something and this like inevitable like a series of

1002
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: discourse takes place. It's like, yeah, this is like a

1003
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: part of the Nathan Fielder like experience because like you're saying,

1004
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: and I like what I really liked about this show?

1005
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: It it's like was that it? Like I don't know,

1006
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: like I feel like with any reality premise or project

1007
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: ship like this happened, and there's all of these like

1008
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: is this ethical? Like is that? Was this okay to do?

1009
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: But there's like not shows that very intentionally call your

1010
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: attention to is this ethical? So I don't like as

1011
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: as like bizarre and specific and like arguably funked up

1012
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: of the premise? Is it? Is it? Yeah, Like most

1013
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: reality shows have an absurd, fucked up promise, but they

1014
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: want you to not think about that as hard as

1015
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: they can, and they go way out of their way

1016
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: with the production and the casting and the style to

1017
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: make you feel like and this is a totally normal

1018
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: thing for us to be doing. We're definitely not exploiting anybody,

1019
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: and like this is this, this is cool? You should

1020
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: feel fine about participating in this as like a consumer,

1021
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: but that's like not what he does. And I think

1022
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 1: that that is like, you know whatever. When it gets

1023
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: down to the individual level, there's definitely ship to be

1024
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: talked about. But I like that that is like such

1025
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: a huge component of this show is like it's doing

1026
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: what a lot of shows are doing, but just like

1027
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: not being shy about telling you exactly what you're doing

1028
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: and like having the person asking like is this okay?

1029
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't know? And yeah, the discomfort is like from

1030
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: that honesty, right, because it's like it's like he's giving

1031
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: you an album, but the behind the music is also

1032
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: part of the album. You're like because you're like, oh, ship,

1033
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: that's what's also going on. Like it's always zooming out.

1034
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: It's like zooming out so much it gets meta up,

1035
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: it gets so meta. But that's like the honesty aspect

1036
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: of it. And I think that's why would like Anna.

1037
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: You know, we watch a lot of reality shows and

1038
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: half the time them like they're getting these fucking people drunk,

1039
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: they're telling them all kinds of ship. They're they're provoked,

1040
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 1: they're antagonizing them to do ship on camera, or they'll

1041
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: straight up just manufacture interactions but you'll never know that

1042
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: watching most reality shows, and with this one, it tries

1043
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: to be like saying like these are kind of the

1044
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: stakes even just trying to even do this thing from

1045
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: a super zoomed out perspective. Yeah, yeah, I think it

1046
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: touches on like a bunch of like I was saying,

1047
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: like types of people you never see anywhere else, like

1048
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: because reality TV is essentially a very specific type of

1049
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: person who is you know, not not reflective of like

1050
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: the type of people who actually exists in America. I

1051
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: think it touches on like spirituality and religion in a

1052
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: way that doesn't really in a way that's like very

1053
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: honest and like doesn't really get brought up. It just

1054
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: it feels like it's like on a different level than

1055
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: not just reality TV, but like just scripted TV as well,

1056
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: Like it's covering a bunch of wild ship that is

1057
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: like some of the most important stuff too in people's lives,

1058
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: you know, in a in a fund up way, but

1059
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: a funked up way that makes you think about it.

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01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I also think a lot of you know,

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01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't fault Robin or Angela for having such intense

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01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: sort of religious like so you know they're very religious people,

1063
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: but I also think they've also you know, based on

1064
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: what they tell you, if they've experienced this trauma, and

1065
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: like individually they talk about these things they've gone through,

1066
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: and like, Okay, that's fine. Let a person be as

1067
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: religious as hell if it helps them survive in this world. Like,

1068
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,439
Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of criticism about Look,

1069
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about Angela's anti Semitism. That's

1070
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: a whole another just because she loves every Mel Gibson

1071
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: thing ever, And yeah, that was like that was the

1072
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: funniest fun Yeah, and she's like I think she's going

1073
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: to say, like anything by Lenny reef Install. Yeah, yeah, seriously,

1074
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: I do think there is you should maybe she did

1075
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: release a video later being like I understand now why

1076
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: that's not a thing that I shouldn't like Mel Gibson

1077
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: that much. I just really liked the film instead, and

1078
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 1: she kind of like tried to backtrack on it, which

1079
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, just be aware of what

1080
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: you put out there in the world when you say

1081
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I don't fault them for having

1082
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: such religious views or how they live their life. Like

1083
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: people need that, right, So I think this series gave

1084
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: us a lot of moments where Anna, you and I

1085
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: were definitely texting each other like fucking just rabid animals,

1086
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: Like what about this ship? What was I just want

1087
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: to go around? What was everyone's most ringe moment? Like

1088
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: what was the moment when you saw and you could

1089
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: not believe what you were watching unfold on screen? One

1090
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: that doesn't get mentioned a lot, but it's from the

1091
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 1: I think the first episode is still my favorite because

1092
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: it just like stands alone so well and is rewatchable endlessly.

1093
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: But when they have the undercover actor go to interview

1094
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: his trivia friend who he's afraid is going to have

1095
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: a violent outburst, which turns out it's like so unfounded.

1096
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: But that's like such a funny revelation of how we

1097
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: like build build things up. But so she has, you know,

1098
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: whatever the disorders were, Like she just can't stop herself

1099
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: from talking, and she's like supposed to be interviewing the

1100
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: birdwatcher lady, but like they just have this montage of

1101
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: like her just like talking endlessly about herself, and at

1102
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: one point she's like the fifth thing after she's like

1103
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: talked about her family and stuff, and she's supposed to

1104
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: be interviewing this other person for a story. She's like,

1105
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: and I have like various travel rewards plans and including

1106
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: go go inflight in yeah, be a trail. That was

1107
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: the moment that Chicken's right there, Chi the city, Chick

1108
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: in the city, that is in the city. I hope

1109
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: I did drive a summer traffic to her site. I

1110
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: hope so too. Yeah. I think that one of the

1111
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: I mean, the one that comes to mind of just

1112
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: like and just like Nathan Nathan having to deal with

1113
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: a different anti semitic person in the series was the

1114
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: guy at the raising canes in that moment where he

1115
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: like says something like mask off anti semitic, and Nathan

1116
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: like tries to interfere, and then the guy is like, well,

1117
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: but that is something that I would say to my

1118
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: brother and he would agree with me. And then they

1119
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, I guess if that's what you

1120
01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: would say, like it was just yea, it's like and

1121
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: then makes a note like anti semitic turn like it

1122
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god. Yeah, that was that was

1123
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: a that was a brutal that storyline. I feel like

1124
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: it's one of the least discussed ones. Yeah, that one

1125
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: was that episode was wild because that guy had a

1126
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: full on, like emotional reckoning with himself, like through this

1127
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: actor who was supposed to be his brother, which I

1128
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: could not believe how powerful that moment was, how absurd

1129
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: the whole site, Like he started crying to this guy,

1130
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: this fucking effigy of his brother, and I'm like, oh

1131
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: my god, Like what is Nathan facilitating here? And the

1132
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: fact that it worked that well is crazy. But for me,

1133
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,439
Speaker 1: it was when he went to go help that old

1134
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: man dig up the treasure and helped him take a

1135
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: ship I could That's when I was like, this is

1136
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: you're really You're You're layering so much on top of

1137
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: it to try and get this response out of the guy,

1138
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: and then cut to I didn't realize that guy who

1139
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: played the grandpa, he was a former undercover, a t

1140
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: F agent regularly go undercover, so he was like built

1141
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: already to like be like, hey man, like I know

1142
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: what part I need to play for you. That was

1143
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: a little note I did not realize because he felt

1144
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: upset that the show didn't like help promote his book

1145
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: video just written that's actually really interesting and that I

1146
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: had no idea. Yeah, that blew my mind. Apologies. Dana

1147
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,479
Speaker 1: was thinking about the nose being the pathway to the brain.

1148
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: I feel like there was a similarity in the eyes

1149
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: of that guy and Angela, like the the way they

1150
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: would like kind of close their eyes while talking and

1151
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: like working through stuff that was interesting. I wonder if

1152
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: that's like one of the things Nathan goes, goes there

1153
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: looks for when I mean, was your favorite moment or

1154
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: most moment? Yeah, I mean almost every moment, but I

1155
01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: think the most legendary moment on this show was Adam's

1156
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: overdose that shook me to my core. I just didn't

1157
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: see it coming. I wasn't ready for I was not

1158
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: ready for Nathan's reaction to it, where I was like,

1159
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:18,479
Speaker 1: oh my god, Nathan is acting. I don't know what happened. Yeah,

1160
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: I was like, what is And then the way that

1161
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: it affected Nathan where he's like, I can't raise a teenager,

1162
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: this is too much, and I'm like, you set up

1163
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:31,439
Speaker 1: the overdose Like I loved. I loved that transition after

1164
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: he decides I can't have a teenager and then the

1165
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: kid comes down to slide and then you see the

1166
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: teenager and be like, all right, so are we YEA

1167
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: I will say that that actor. He put his all

1168
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: that when the moment Nathan's like, wouldn't you be angry

1169
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: that I've been gone for like ten years and he's like,

1170
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: look who decided to show up? And I was like,

1171
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: we are in it for a wild ride. That's the

1172
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: kind of actor that Like. When I saw that, I

1173
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: made a mental note. I'm like, oh, that kid could

1174
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: be like super famous in ten years and would have

1175
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, I got my start playing Nathan

1176
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: Fielders like overdose. Son classic put in the comments you're

1177
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: a You're a fucking disaster, my guy. That was what

1178
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: his son said to him. And when he was trying

1179
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: to be like, you need to listen to me, you

1180
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: talk to us, and he's like, you've gone for Dannie Harris,

1181
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: It's like, this is disaster, my guy. The way the

1182
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: fucking exasperation this is. That's why I think I texted

1183
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,839
Speaker 1: you and I was like, this is fucking prestige casting

1184
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: right now. Adam took the role to a whole other level.

1185
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: The girl who played Angela was so good. Oh yeah,

1186
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: she's actually I think he was on this spool. Yes,

1187
01:08:56,240 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, ye fool. The greatest sing it

1188
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: right now, you're killing it right now. That's wild. Plays

1189
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:10,560
Speaker 1: Estrada's sister, the older sister with the kids, right. I

1190
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: would never have connected that. That's so wild on a run,

1191
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, one of the moments that really

1192
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: also like brought me to life other than every minute

1193
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: of the show. But when he enters that got that

1194
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: actor's bedroom after he decides to fully encompass himself in

1195
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: this actor's life, and he enters his bedroom and it's

1196
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: filled with squished mellows, I was like this, I can't

1197
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 1: write this ship man, But it's like the thing that

1198
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: he talks about when he's like I went to the

1199
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: kid's house and it was like perfect in a way

1200
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,799
Speaker 1: that like none of our sets could have been because

1201
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 1: it was like accidentally that way, Like that is what

1202
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: is great. Like that's the thing you're seeing on the

1203
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 1: on this show that you don't see anywhere else like

1204
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 1: any other reality show. You are seeing something that is

1205
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: like carefully you know, even if they're doing a hometown

1206
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: business on The Bachelor, like that is a version of

1207
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: their house that has been like designed and like reformatted

1208
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: to look good on TV. You know, Yeah, all right,

1209
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please

1210
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: like and review the show. If you like the show,

1211
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: uh means the world to Miles. He he needs your validation, folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By S.