WEBVTT - NFL Draft Triple Take (QB), March 20, 2023

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of NFL Draft

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<v Speaker 1>Triple Take, brought to you by UPMC. I'm Mike Pursuita,

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<v Speaker 1>joined as always by Dale Lally and Matt Williamson. We're

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<v Speaker 1>here to talk quarterbacks today. We've got the names on

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<v Speaker 1>the board as we get ready for the NFL Draft

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of April. And Matt, I guess after

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<v Speaker 1>last year, we're not only looking at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the class. Eventually we're gonna get around the mister irrelevant, right,

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<v Speaker 1>good point. It was a big deal last year. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of an anomaly of course, but interesting

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<v Speaker 1>class here. They all have some questions and Dale, the

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<v Speaker 1>class usually gets more interesting when we get into pro

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<v Speaker 1>days and things of that nature. But I'm with Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>I like a lot of these guys. Yeah, I like him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I love them, but his Matt

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<v Speaker 1>just said, there's some question marks about all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for example, hen then Hooker's coming off of

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<v Speaker 1>an ac L injury. He might be perhaps two or

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<v Speaker 1>three on this list, you know, if he were completely healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's not. You could go on down the list

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<v Speaker 1>with these guys and find something that you're like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like him, but there's this and so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's kind of the thing with this class.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean th that like four of them won't go

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<v Speaker 1>into top ten this year, No, it does not. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get to it and see how we've got him stacked

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<v Speaker 1>as we speak, Dale, why don't you lead us off?

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<v Speaker 1>I will do that. And as I just mentioned, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to put Hendon Hooker from Tennessee down here at

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<v Speaker 1>number five because of an ACL injury transfer from Virginia Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>The last two seasons have been outstanding for him, over

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<v Speaker 1>forty touchdown passes both season less than ten interceptions bost seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's done some good things there. At number four,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got the Penn State transfer to from Kentucky or

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<v Speaker 1>now at Kentucky will levi us Again, there's there's some

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<v Speaker 1>question marks there is his tape from two years ago

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<v Speaker 1>was much better than this past season, but they had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of graduations and things of that nature. Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Kentucky football. There's not you know, a pipeline there,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're dealing with that. At number three, I got

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<v Speaker 1>the combine hero Anthony Richardson lit it up obviously, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're looking at him. He's thrown about three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty passes in his college career completed fifty four

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<v Speaker 1>percent of them, So there's some still some question marks

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<v Speaker 1>are probably needs a year to sit and learn a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Then I've got CJ. Stroud at two from

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State. I think he's the outlier in the Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State quarterbacks. I know they've never had one that's really

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<v Speaker 1>come in and hit at the NFL level. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he might be the guy that could do that. And

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<v Speaker 1>then at number one, I have Bryce Young from Alabama. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's five ten, but man, he's accurate with the football,

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<v Speaker 1>does a lot of good things, can run with it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. That's not the main part of his game,

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<v Speaker 1>but he can do that, and he's a playmaker at

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback position. You know, it's an interesting list that

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<v Speaker 1>you've got there, and we of course have already run

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<v Speaker 1>the post that I should say the printed version of this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am calling audible when I get to my five.

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<v Speaker 1>That is your right to be wrong. My list is

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<v Speaker 1>changing and I've got the same guys you've got, But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I got the Greek guy of quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>at number two. Now. The physical package to me is

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<v Speaker 1>beyond impressive, and I think, you know, ideal world he

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<v Speaker 1>sits for a year and takes a red shirt at

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL level, But if you can't work it out

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<v Speaker 1>that way, let him run around and make plays with

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<v Speaker 1>his legs while he figures out what to do with

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<v Speaker 1>his arm. It's impressive. My number one guy is CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Stroud of the Ohio State University. Like looking a big

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<v Speaker 1>ten guy, well, you know, like a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little concerned I didn't see him color

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<v Speaker 1>outside the lines very often, and then it occurred to

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<v Speaker 1>me that that was because he really didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>do it very often. I know how State lost in

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan the last two years, but pretty much rolled through

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else. When I saw in the Georgia game, showed

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<v Speaker 1>me that he can do what you need to do

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<v Speaker 1>at the NFL level if he has to. He just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to very often. Bryce young to me as

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<v Speaker 1>everything but the ideal size, and if I've got bigger options,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I would go. Will levis same kind of

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<v Speaker 1>deal with Richardson. I think he needs some polish, but

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<v Speaker 1>he can be an effective runner. Went healthy and Hendon Hooker.

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<v Speaker 1>You know another concern I have about him. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>just play a spread offense at Tennessee. They played a

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<v Speaker 1>spread offense. I mean they were sidelined to sideline. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know he's gonna be doing that stuff on Sundays,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did it pretty well hunhealthy on Saturdays. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and my list is actually the same as Dale's. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of questions of all these guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>also have Stroud too, I have Young at one. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of momentum. As you mentioned though about Stroud,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that Georgia game was phenomenal for him. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that was a different style of play, just showed

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<v Speaker 1>that he's capable. Yeah, he didn't see him in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when he was playing Michigan State. He didn't see him

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<v Speaker 1>to have to break the pocket and keep his eyes

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<v Speaker 1>down field and throw on the run and be accurate

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<v Speaker 1>on the comebacks, or wait for the guy to clear

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<v Speaker 1>in the end zone, or tuck it and go with

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<v Speaker 1>his legs. At one run against Georgia that he finished

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<v Speaker 1>off by putting his shoulder down and running through a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of guys. It's really got my attention, no doubt,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not his fault, but he's throwing to first

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<v Speaker 1>round picks left and right, and you know, probably five

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<v Speaker 1>of them actually, once all said and done in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of receivers there, which is remarkable. Phenomenal offensive lines next

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<v Speaker 1>year right, exactly right, as he keeps saying in Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>coming next year. Not wrong. But his accuracy is remarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>He threw the football extremely well at the combine. I

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<v Speaker 1>have young one because I do think he has a

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<v Speaker 1>great head for the game. He's a remarkable playmaker. It's

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<v Speaker 1>but the size really worries me. I mean, he's tentatively

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<v Speaker 1>one for me. And it's not because his inability to

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<v Speaker 1>see the field or see amongst the trees. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>the durability worries me. I mean, seventeen games in the

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<v Speaker 1>league plus preseason plus hopefully postseason, it's hard to get

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<v Speaker 1>hold up over year after year. That's what really worries

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<v Speaker 1>me about him, not his style play at all. And

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<v Speaker 1>Hooker's the last guy I want to talk about because

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's being slept on a little bit because

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<v Speaker 1>he is injured. He hasn't done anything lately, he's overaged,

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<v Speaker 1>he's played in a strange offense as you mentioned. But

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<v Speaker 1>if he lands in like Detroit or Seattle, where there's

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<v Speaker 1>an established quarterback shirt kind of red shirt for the year,

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<v Speaker 1>and then take it over, he has a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>be as good as any one of these guys. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>talks about the Big four, but I think hookers in

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<v Speaker 1>their neighborhood two years down the road in that neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>So Richardson's obviously extremely impressive physically. What I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit or we don't have the benefit of doing,

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<v Speaker 1>is sitting down with him and knowing what he knows,

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<v Speaker 1>what he needs to learn. But boy, he has the

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling up here, you know. Getting back to Young, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with Matt Dale. It's not necessarily the height. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>buck ninety four. Oh yeah, it's definitely. I do think

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<v Speaker 1>that Kyler Murray, even though he weighed two o seven

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<v Speaker 1>at the combine, probably weighs closer than that now. But

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<v Speaker 1>we've also seeing Kyler Murray not finished the last two seasons, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I do think though that Bryce Young. You

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<v Speaker 1>never see him anybody get a clean hit on him.

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<v Speaker 1>He is very good at the kind of sidestepping the

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<v Speaker 1>big hits. Can he do that at the NFL? Level

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<v Speaker 1>that remains to be seen, but I think he has

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<v Speaker 1>outside of that size the size issues, maybe a few

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<v Speaker 1>less of the red flags than some of these other

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<v Speaker 1>guys have. The last thing I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>is Richardson again, because he is the Greek out of quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>and Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL Network and NFL dot Com,

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<v Speaker 1>the draft greu that he is. He has called Richardson

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<v Speaker 1>the lottery ticket or words to that effect that, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>the upside for him is higher than all these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't know if he's going to hit it.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's got perhaps the largest or highest ceiling. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you buy that? And if you're picking a QB, would

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<v Speaker 1>you roll the dice in search of that? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think when you're looking in the QB market, you do

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<v Speaker 1>want to swing for the fences. If you strike out

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<v Speaker 1>here and there, it's worth it if you hit a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of home run and Richardson's the epitome of that.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was scouting, it was entrenched in me that

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks don't get more accurate in the NFL. That doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Times have changed, you know, Dak Presscott, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a long list of these guys, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it's because of these independent quarterback coaches

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<v Speaker 1>that they take in the off season and all the

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<v Speaker 1>different things they do, you know, that they do with

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<v Speaker 1>their mechanics. And assuming he is a smart, eager young man,

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<v Speaker 1>which everyone says he is, is going to take to

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<v Speaker 1>all that outside coaching, well he could be easily number one.

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<v Speaker 1>To your point on that, Matt, I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that has involved the guys who are runners, and

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in the pocket, you're you're running out of

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket a lot of time. You don't take the

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<v Speaker 1>time to set your feet correctly, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>leads to some of the inaccuracies with the throwing. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at him, He's a guy that's starwing three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty passes, you know, I look at him

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<v Speaker 1>very much like Trey Lance. When he was coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of school. Everybody said, all the Trey Lance is upside

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<v Speaker 1>of the upside. We'd thrown three hundred and fifty or

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<v Speaker 1>so passes over his college career. So the Alabama and

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, or Florida or you know, I mean, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you could turn on Taper Richardson and say wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a great play, and then the next three

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<v Speaker 1>throws are like wow, what was that? You know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just who he is at this point in his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Can he be better? Sure? But to Matt's point about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, taking the swing at him, it might depend

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<v Speaker 1>on how safe your coach is. He is he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is he safe in his job? How safe is your GM?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, do they have to win this year? Because

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<v Speaker 1>if they got to win this year, Anthony Richardson is

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<v Speaker 1>probably not the guy for them. Well, that's all I

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<v Speaker 1>happened as side as I did because to my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty safe here. I mean, you got nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>lose back here doing this next year. I'm even more

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<v Speaker 1>certain we'll be back here much sooner than that. As

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<v Speaker 1>we go through the positions here from a video standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>to take an advantage of our new toy here and

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<v Speaker 1>moving the names around. So I want to remind everybody

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<v Speaker 1>these are going to be coming, So keep finding us,

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<v Speaker 1>however and wherever you found us until the next time.

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