Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of NFL Draft
Speaker 1: Triple Take, brought to you by UPMC. I'm Mike Pursuita,
Speaker 1: joined as always by Dale Lally and Matt Williamson. We're
Speaker 1: here to talk quarterbacks today. We've got the names on
Speaker 1: the board as we get ready for the NFL Draft
Speaker 1: at the end of April. And Matt, I guess after
Speaker 1: last year, we're not only looking at the top of
Speaker 1: the class. Eventually we're gonna get around the mister irrelevant, right,
Speaker 1: good point. It was a big deal last year. Obviously
Speaker 1: a little bit of an anomaly of course, but interesting
Speaker 1: class here. They all have some questions and Dale, the
Speaker 1: class usually gets more interesting when we get into pro
Speaker 1: days and things of that nature. But I'm with Matt.
Speaker 1: I like a lot of these guys. Yeah, I like him.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I love them, but his Matt
Speaker 1: just said, there's some question marks about all of them.
Speaker 1: You know, for example, hen then Hooker's coming off of
Speaker 1: an ac L injury. He might be perhaps two or
Speaker 1: three on this list, you know, if he were completely healthy,
Speaker 1: but he's not. You could go on down the list
Speaker 1: with these guys and find something that you're like yeah,
Speaker 1: I like him, but there's this and so you know,
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the thing with this class.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean th that like four of them won't go
Speaker 1: into top ten this year, No, it does not. Let's
Speaker 1: get to it and see how we've got him stacked
Speaker 1: as we speak, Dale, why don't you lead us off?
Speaker 1: I will do that. And as I just mentioned, I
Speaker 1: have to put Hendon Hooker from Tennessee down here at
Speaker 1: number five because of an ACL injury transfer from Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1: The last two seasons have been outstanding for him, over
Speaker 1: forty touchdown passes both season less than ten interceptions bost seasons,
Speaker 1: so he's done some good things there. At number four,
Speaker 1: I've got the Penn State transfer to from Kentucky or
Speaker 1: now at Kentucky will levi us Again, there's there's some
Speaker 1: question marks there is his tape from two years ago
Speaker 1: was much better than this past season, but they had
Speaker 1: a lot of graduations and things of that nature. Kentucky,
Speaker 1: it's Kentucky football. There's not you know, a pipeline there,
Speaker 1: so you're dealing with that. At number three, I got
Speaker 1: the combine hero Anthony Richardson lit it up obviously, you
Speaker 1: know you're looking at him. He's thrown about three hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty passes in his college career completed fifty four
Speaker 1: percent of them, So there's some still some question marks
Speaker 1: are probably needs a year to sit and learn a
Speaker 1: little bit. Then I've got CJ. Stroud at two from
Speaker 1: Ohio State. I think he's the outlier in the Ohio
Speaker 1: State quarterbacks. I know they've never had one that's really
Speaker 1: come in and hit at the NFL level. I think
Speaker 1: he might be the guy that could do that. And
Speaker 1: then at number one, I have Bryce Young from Alabama. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's five ten, but man, he's accurate with the football,
Speaker 1: does a lot of good things, can run with it
Speaker 1: a little bit. That's not the main part of his game,
Speaker 1: but he can do that, and he's a playmaker at
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. You know, it's an interesting list that
Speaker 1: you've got there, and we of course have already run
Speaker 1: the post that I should say the printed version of this,
Speaker 1: but I am calling audible when I get to my five.
Speaker 1: That is your right to be wrong. My list is
Speaker 1: changing and I've got the same guys you've got, But
Speaker 1: you know what, I got the Greek guy of quarterbacks
Speaker 1: at number two. Now. The physical package to me is
Speaker 1: beyond impressive, and I think, you know, ideal world he
Speaker 1: sits for a year and takes a red shirt at
Speaker 1: the NFL level, But if you can't work it out
Speaker 1: that way, let him run around and make plays with
Speaker 1: his legs while he figures out what to do with
Speaker 1: his arm. It's impressive. My number one guy is CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud of the Ohio State University. Like looking a big
Speaker 1: ten guy, well, you know, like a lot of people,
Speaker 1: I was a little concerned I didn't see him color
Speaker 1: outside the lines very often, and then it occurred to
Speaker 1: me that that was because he really didn't have to
Speaker 1: do it very often. I know how State lost in
Speaker 1: Michigan the last two years, but pretty much rolled through
Speaker 1: everybody else. When I saw in the Georgia game, showed
Speaker 1: me that he can do what you need to do
Speaker 1: at the NFL level if he has to. He just
Speaker 1: didn't have to very often. Bryce young to me as
Speaker 1: everything but the ideal size, and if I've got bigger options,
Speaker 1: that's where I would go. Will levis same kind of
Speaker 1: deal with Richardson. I think he needs some polish, but
Speaker 1: he can be an effective runner. Went healthy and Hendon Hooker.
Speaker 1: You know another concern I have about him. They didn't
Speaker 1: just play a spread offense at Tennessee. They played a
Speaker 1: spread offense. I mean they were sidelined to sideline. I
Speaker 1: don't know he's gonna be doing that stuff on Sundays,
Speaker 1: but he did it pretty well hunhealthy on Saturdays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and my list is actually the same as Dale's. But
Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions of all these guys. I
Speaker 1: also have Stroud too, I have Young at one. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of momentum. As you mentioned though about Stroud,
Speaker 1: I mean that Georgia game was phenomenal for him. I
Speaker 1: mean that was a different style of play, just showed
Speaker 1: that he's capable. Yeah, he didn't see him in you know,
Speaker 1: when he was playing Michigan State. He didn't see him
Speaker 1: to have to break the pocket and keep his eyes
Speaker 1: down field and throw on the run and be accurate
Speaker 1: on the comebacks, or wait for the guy to clear
Speaker 1: in the end zone, or tuck it and go with
Speaker 1: his legs. At one run against Georgia that he finished
Speaker 1: off by putting his shoulder down and running through a
Speaker 1: couple of guys. It's really got my attention, no doubt,
Speaker 1: and it's not his fault, but he's throwing to first
Speaker 1: round picks left and right, and you know, probably five
Speaker 1: of them actually, once all said and done in terms
Speaker 1: of receivers there, which is remarkable. Phenomenal offensive lines next
Speaker 1: year right, exactly right, as he keeps saying in Ohio
Speaker 1: coming next year. Not wrong. But his accuracy is remarkable.
Speaker 1: He threw the football extremely well at the combine. I
Speaker 1: have young one because I do think he has a
Speaker 1: great head for the game. He's a remarkable playmaker. It's
Speaker 1: but the size really worries me. I mean, he's tentatively
Speaker 1: one for me. And it's not because his inability to
Speaker 1: see the field or see amongst the trees. It's just
Speaker 1: the durability worries me. I mean, seventeen games in the
Speaker 1: league plus preseason plus hopefully postseason, it's hard to get
Speaker 1: hold up over year after year. That's what really worries
Speaker 1: me about him, not his style play at all. And
Speaker 1: Hooker's the last guy I want to talk about because
Speaker 1: I think he's being slept on a little bit because
Speaker 1: he is injured. He hasn't done anything lately, he's overaged,
Speaker 1: he's played in a strange offense as you mentioned. But
Speaker 1: if he lands in like Detroit or Seattle, where there's
Speaker 1: an established quarterback shirt kind of red shirt for the year,
Speaker 1: and then take it over, he has a chance to
Speaker 1: be as good as any one of these guys. Everyone
Speaker 1: talks about the Big four, but I think hookers in
Speaker 1: their neighborhood two years down the road in that neighborhood.
Speaker 1: So Richardson's obviously extremely impressive physically. What I don't have
Speaker 1: the benefit or we don't have the benefit of doing,
Speaker 1: is sitting down with him and knowing what he knows,
Speaker 1: what he needs to learn. But boy, he has the
Speaker 1: ceiling up here, you know. Getting back to Young, I'm
Speaker 1: with Matt Dale. It's not necessarily the height. It's a
Speaker 1: buck ninety four. Oh yeah, it's definitely. I do think
Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray, even though he weighed two o seven
Speaker 1: at the combine, probably weighs closer than that now. But
Speaker 1: we've also seeing Kyler Murray not finished the last two seasons, right,
Speaker 1: you know. I do think though that Bryce Young. You
Speaker 1: never see him anybody get a clean hit on him.
Speaker 1: He is very good at the kind of sidestepping the
Speaker 1: big hits. Can he do that at the NFL? Level
Speaker 1: that remains to be seen, but I think he has
Speaker 1: outside of that size the size issues, maybe a few
Speaker 1: less of the red flags than some of these other
Speaker 1: guys have. The last thing I want to talk about
Speaker 1: is Richardson again, because he is the Greek out of quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL Network and NFL dot Com,
Speaker 1: the draft greu that he is. He has called Richardson
Speaker 1: the lottery ticket or words to that effect that, hey,
Speaker 1: the upside for him is higher than all these guys,
Speaker 1: but you don't know if he's going to hit it.
Speaker 1: But he's got perhaps the largest or highest ceiling. Would
Speaker 1: you buy that? And if you're picking a QB, would
Speaker 1: you roll the dice in search of that? Well, I
Speaker 1: think when you're looking in the QB market, you do
Speaker 1: want to swing for the fences. If you strike out
Speaker 1: here and there, it's worth it if you hit a
Speaker 1: couple of home run and Richardson's the epitome of that.
Speaker 1: When I was scouting, it was entrenched in me that
Speaker 1: quarterbacks don't get more accurate in the NFL. That doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: Times have changed, you know, Dak Presscott, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: There's a long list of these guys, and I think
Speaker 1: a lot of it's because of these independent quarterback coaches
Speaker 1: that they take in the off season and all the
Speaker 1: different things they do, you know, that they do with
Speaker 1: their mechanics. And assuming he is a smart, eager young man,
Speaker 1: which everyone says he is, is going to take to
Speaker 1: all that outside coaching, well he could be easily number one.
Speaker 1: To your point on that, Matt, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of that has involved the guys who are runners, and
Speaker 1: when you're in the pocket, you're you're running out of
Speaker 1: the pocket a lot of time. You don't take the
Speaker 1: time to set your feet correctly, and I think that
Speaker 1: leads to some of the inaccuracies with the throwing. But again,
Speaker 1: I look at him, He's a guy that's starwing three
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty passes, you know, I look at him
Speaker 1: very much like Trey Lance. When he was coming out
Speaker 1: of school. Everybody said, all the Trey Lance is upside
Speaker 1: of the upside. We'd thrown three hundred and fifty or
Speaker 1: so passes over his college career. So the Alabama and
Speaker 1: not you know, or Florida or you know, I mean, so,
Speaker 1: I mean, you could turn on Taper Richardson and say wow,
Speaker 1: that was a great play, and then the next three
Speaker 1: throws are like wow, what was that? You know, that's
Speaker 1: just who he is at this point in his career.
Speaker 1: Can he be better? Sure? But to Matt's point about
Speaker 1: you know, taking the swing at him, it might depend
Speaker 1: on how safe your coach is. He is he you know,
Speaker 1: is he safe in his job? How safe is your GM?
Speaker 1: You know, do they have to win this year? Because
Speaker 1: if they got to win this year, Anthony Richardson is
Speaker 1: probably not the guy for them. Well, that's all I
Speaker 1: happened as side as I did because to my knowledge,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty safe here. I mean, you got nothing to
Speaker 1: lose back here doing this next year. I'm even more
Speaker 1: certain we'll be back here much sooner than that. As
Speaker 1: we go through the positions here from a video standpoint,
Speaker 1: to take an advantage of our new toy here and
Speaker 1: moving the names around. So I want to remind everybody
Speaker 1: these are going to be coming, So keep finding us,
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