WEBVTT - The Reality of Being Married to Medicine

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<v Speaker 1>What's the family. It's your girl to make a d mallory,

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<v Speaker 1>it's your boy in general. And we're your hosts of

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<v Speaker 1>street politicians, the place where the streets and politics meet.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's Thanksgiving, and you know, obviously we all love

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<v Speaker 1>the family time and the food and all the good things.

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<v Speaker 1>But the food. Yeah, but you know, I've never I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, since I was a kid, my parents kind

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<v Speaker 1>of messed me up because they like celebrate the stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they talk about the history of why we

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be celebrating it. Some things. They don't celebrate everything.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things my parents would never, like

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<v Speaker 1>you we never maybe twice in my life that I

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<v Speaker 1>had a Halloween because they, you know, talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>during that time of year, black folks were being lynched

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<v Speaker 1>and killed and like they you know, made it very

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<v Speaker 1>clear that Halloween night was not a good time for

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<v Speaker 1>a black people, especially in the South. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even thinking about Thanksgiving and you know, this is something

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<v Speaker 1>started I think in like sixteen twenty or sixteen twenty one, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was the first meal of the pilgrims coming

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<v Speaker 1>to America. And it's like there's so many there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much and they called it the New World, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so much history that is that most people

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, and it's so it tastes Actually, we should

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<v Speaker 1>really have some black historians to come on and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how holidays that we celebrate now our our our

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<v Speaker 1>our holidays that were started by people who were also colonizings.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say that's that's the most simple way that

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<v Speaker 1>I could say it without trying to act like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in his story, and like these people were colonizers, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So they were stealing land, stealing people, enslaving people, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, creating holidays along the way, which have

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<v Speaker 1>now become part of capitalism in our society, spending a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot of money to celebrate holidays that colonizes started.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes some holidays they actually were like Veterans Day that

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<v Speaker 1>actually is a holiday that that black people started. But

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<v Speaker 1>they these colonizers, like with everything else, take over the

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<v Speaker 1>holidays and make them white holidays and then attach capitalism

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<v Speaker 1>to them, and really we lose the essence of like

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<v Speaker 1>how these things really began and where it came from,

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<v Speaker 1>and what was the real history, whether the history is

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<v Speaker 1>good or bad. So I think we would do our

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<v Speaker 1>We wouldn't be doing sir this or a good service

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<v Speaker 1>to our audience not to mention the controversy around the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of Thanksgiving and tell folks that they should do

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<v Speaker 1>the research where they can do, like my family, talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the issues with the colonizers and what happened to

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<v Speaker 1>the Native Americans, if you will, They weren't Native Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>They were just native people to the land before folks

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<v Speaker 1>arrived and started their things given so I means a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me, I've been indoctrinated into these holidays

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<v Speaker 1>who so long. You know, my kids love Halloween and

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<v Speaker 1>I and I felt like the bad guy because as

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<v Speaker 1>I've become became more knowledgeable and understanding the history, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be like, man, I'm not doing Halloween, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. But it's something that they love.

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<v Speaker 1>They loved going to get their candy, and they love

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<v Speaker 1>to go do the doors. So I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>personally take that from them. You know, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>educate them as they get older on what the actual

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<v Speaker 1>meaning of Halloween and where comes from. So I always

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<v Speaker 1>want them to be informed and knowledgeable about what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Also with Halloween, it's it's something that my family, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>always celebrate. It was like probably my favorite day of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. You know, I've seen all my cousins and

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<v Speaker 1>aunts and uncles that I never hadn't seen all year.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just that one day we will all go

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<v Speaker 1>to one of our family member's house and we would

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<v Speaker 1>eat and we would laughing with Joe, can you see

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite uncle and your favorite cousins? Halloween? I said

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween first, and I said, you said Halloween again because

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting and life, Listen, what am I to?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Thanksgiving? Thanks So that was one of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we get the knowledge and understand how the

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<v Speaker 1>natives were slaughtered during this time, it's definitely something that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that we really want to celebrate, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to take away that family cornie at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, so you know, it's it's like we

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<v Speaker 1>have to teach the history right at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's with every area. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>teach the history because while you know, we're celebrating it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess I have some hesitancy because it feels

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<v Speaker 1>and we talk about being walking contradictions every day, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it feels so to think of the Native

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<v Speaker 1>people to this land and to know that this time represents,

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<v Speaker 1>for so many of them, as you said, a time

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<v Speaker 1>when their people were slaughtered. It represents a time when

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<v Speaker 1>everything that they once knew was taken from them. And

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<v Speaker 1>then a holiday was created and people celebrated without even

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<v Speaker 1>really discussing the nature of like the remembrance of the

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving holiday in this and this time period. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I just, you know, I think you're right. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to teach the history of these holidays and so much

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<v Speaker 1>history to your children so that when you are really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just taking a day off from work, getting

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<v Speaker 1>the day off from work and getting family together, that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not lost on us as a people, everything that

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<v Speaker 1>this country has done and how we um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess how we have to respond to capitalism when

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<v Speaker 1>we're not respected as full citizens still, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the Native people and now we call

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<v Speaker 1>the Native Americans, but even we as black people in

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<v Speaker 1>this nation have never received our full rights and been

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<v Speaker 1>respected properly. And so you know, they use these holidays

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<v Speaker 1>because they like our one point five trillion dollars, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's that's what actually was the catalyst

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<v Speaker 1>behind my boycotting and boycotting black owned businesses. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're seeing what happening with Kyrie, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think this listening to the seeo oh, his his verbage

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<v Speaker 1>and just responding and the way he spoke of Kyrie,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like somebody that he didn't even see as

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<v Speaker 1>a human being. He's seen him on his property. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we we we chose to just just disregard this person.

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<v Speaker 1>You had, you know, a partnership with somebody and because

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<v Speaker 1>of one misstep or mishappened, you know, you chose that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm willing to lose hundreds of millions of dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars that need be to show that I

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<v Speaker 1>have some level of power. And that that that really

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<v Speaker 1>bothered me, understanding that what if this is the only

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<v Speaker 1>way that Kyrie was able to feed his family? What

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<v Speaker 1>if all of these things negatively affective and nobody cared

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<v Speaker 1>about him as an individual. And I'm like, damn, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see people do that to their own culture, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, to our culture. So I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to start empowering our culture. So we're able

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<v Speaker 1>to make those breakages or those you know, we're able

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<v Speaker 1>to separate from organizations and people who don't mean us well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I say, I have to push back on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like maybe it doesn't happen as often, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have in this minute, uh several examples, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just because it's not something that I watched. But I

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<v Speaker 1>know that there's been NBA teams that or NBA owners

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<v Speaker 1>that have been forced to sell their teams for saying

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<v Speaker 1>racist things. I know that there have been endorsement deals

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<v Speaker 1>by you know, some athletes who have lost endorsement deals

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<v Speaker 1>because of domestic violence and or again racist comments or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not gonna say that the that they that

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<v Speaker 1>they never hold white folks accountable, because that's that's not

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<v Speaker 1>my conversation. I'm looking at. I'm looking at what he's

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<v Speaker 1>being told, you know, what he's been accused of in

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<v Speaker 1>the level of ament. Right, So when you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>when you talk about the those owners, those owners have

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<v Speaker 1>full text message. When they're calling people niggers, they have

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<v Speaker 1>like like they have whole and the thing is they're

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<v Speaker 1>selling it to their friends. When you gotta sell the company,

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<v Speaker 1>they're still making money off of it at the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are older this is a game, you understand

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's it's really just a game that they're running

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<v Speaker 1>that we know. I know the game that they were like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta sell this to my friend. I gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>in the cut because they caught me being racists. All

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<v Speaker 1>me and all my friends is racist anyway, because they

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't catch the email that he said to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm the one that got caught. So we all

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play in this game. So I know that game

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing, but it's but it's actually your words and

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually vulgar. It's to the point where it's like them,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't even sit in the same room because we

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<v Speaker 1>know that you're you had ill intention and you felt

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<v Speaker 1>these you felt very negatively. That that's when there's accountability.

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<v Speaker 1>But for somebody, a lot of these these owners our

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<v Speaker 1>friends with racist non racist KKK members, they fund those things,

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<v Speaker 1>they in rooms with them, they're in close proximity two

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<v Speaker 1>things that as anti black all the time, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>no accountability to that, right. So for for Kyrie to

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<v Speaker 1>be held to that stated for posting up a damned

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<v Speaker 1>documentary when ninety percent was about black history, and in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of the instances in there probably was something

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't even pay attention to because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>something that he was focused on, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And Okay, we we give them the accountability he apologized.

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<v Speaker 1>You give him maybe a game or two or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is. But to completely sever ties with that man

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<v Speaker 1>from million dollar businesses and and um um partnerships that

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<v Speaker 1>he had because you said he stepped over the line

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<v Speaker 1>like he's some type of boy or some type of kid,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It didn't even make sense to me. So

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<v Speaker 1>understanding that that's a possibility that they can do stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that made me say to myself, I can't I

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<v Speaker 1>can't knowingly allow that to continue to keep happening to me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't be aware that they have people that can

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<v Speaker 1>cut ties with me, cut ties with people that look

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<v Speaker 1>like me, people that are start works in our culture,

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<v Speaker 1>people that we idolize in the culture, and we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>created anything or funded anything that can make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they can still feed their children. Like, for me, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just not okay. So I say, you know what, First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I'm not buying anything Nike again, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was one of a major support of Nike. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not but I'm personally not buying it again. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really see when I never even wear anything that

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<v Speaker 1>I bought again. But secondly, I want us as a

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<v Speaker 1>people to to normalize holding people accountable who don't value us? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we giving our our dollars to people who

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<v Speaker 1>we know do not value us? How do we how?

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<v Speaker 1>Why aren't we able to say I'm not gonna spend

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of dollars with people who are able to lose

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars just so that they can make a

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<v Speaker 1>point about how they're not going to deal with certain

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<v Speaker 1>type of AGAs for months? So why can't we say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna even give my money to somebody, right

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<v Speaker 1>we I'm not gonna continue to make somebody a billionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why we don't think that we need

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<v Speaker 1>to show that we have some level of respect for ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>because if we don't respect ourselves, how can we expect

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<v Speaker 1>anybody to respect us? So I'm I proposed on my

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<v Speaker 1>page that we stopped buy a Nike at least for

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<v Speaker 1>this holiday season. I personally I don't ever see me

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<v Speaker 1>doing it again. But I'm saying those who need to

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<v Speaker 1>see the increments to understand the power that you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Say for this whole holiday season started with UM, started

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<v Speaker 1>from last week when I first said to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure that that Black Friday, it's

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<v Speaker 1>us buying black, it's making sure that we're invested in

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<v Speaker 1>black UM companies and organizations. So I've been posting mad

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<v Speaker 1>crazy different black owned businesses on my pages so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to that, you can support that, you

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<v Speaker 1>can spend your black dollar with your black and the

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<v Speaker 1>visual organization and your black people so we can watch

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<v Speaker 1>the black dollar flourish through our community. And then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>continuously doing on that and I'm saying I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to see your power. I want you to understand that

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<v Speaker 1>Black Friday is is generally when we go out and

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<v Speaker 1>spend the most money. So why are we invested in

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<v Speaker 1>our own communities? Why we are we investing We got

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<v Speaker 1>Sneakers that's way better than Nike. But for somehow we've

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<v Speaker 1>trained our minds that if we don't have these Nikes,

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<v Speaker 1>that some level of status we lose or continue to

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<v Speaker 1>make these people billionaires that don't even value us. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sense? So I'm I'm I said to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm an avid Nike buyer, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to discipline myself. I want to prove to myself that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm work. I'm worth more than these sneakers are.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm worth more than this status quote is.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel violated. So I'm willing to sacrifice something. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm asking everybody continue on Black after Thanksgiving, Black Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't go on and spending. Find a black organization, find

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<v Speaker 1>a black company, find some black sneakers to bid they have.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to my page. You'll see hundreds of people that

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to. And yeah, because I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>by the by the time tomorrow, I'm gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred people on it because I probably got about forty

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<v Speaker 1>or fifty different organizations that you can go to. You're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, Yeah, it's about forty different places. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>not organizations. They companies, organization, companies, organizations. Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>as companies. Organizations have a mission or they should have

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<v Speaker 1>a mission to some type of service. Companies are for benefits,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's good. We should have all those dynamics. But dynamics,

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<v Speaker 1>but these people. And that's and the reason why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>making the distinction. We have an organization and we have right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean, of course you could buy organizations.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. That that's true. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that's true, flat out that's true. However, the bigger point

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<v Speaker 1>is that there are a lot of companies that we're

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<v Speaker 1>posting that you're posting UM, and we need to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that those companies understand that money is being pushed

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<v Speaker 1>in their direction and they got to do business right.

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<v Speaker 1>Whole link with about sixty different high end black owned Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do business, guys and your business quality business. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I said that. But you're right, I stand

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<v Speaker 1>correct that there are organizations, not just Until Freedom, but

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<v Speaker 1>many who have their own merch and T shirts and

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<v Speaker 1>things of that nature. So that's important. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>specifically focusing on the companies and making sure that these

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<v Speaker 1>companies are doing good business with the clientele UM and

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that people can reach you, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>that your your information, your financial collection and stuff is good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, your e commerce is set up properly, like,

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<v Speaker 1>please make sure that you do all of that. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of the companies are already ordered something. Um. So most

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<v Speaker 1>of the companies are, but there are some who still

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<v Speaker 1>need to get their their things together. And it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>to say, hey, well I'm working on this and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be ready in two weeks, three weeks or whatever, um,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not necessarily ready to start taking orders that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't fulfill because I don't have the shoes, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the merchandise. Like, let's be for real, so

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, it's a good experience. Now, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to have patience because we know that our

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<v Speaker 1>people do not benefit from the way that capitalism operates.

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<v Speaker 1>With white folks and big businesses like a Nike or

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<v Speaker 1>any other kind of business, we don't have that. So

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<v Speaker 1>we are trying to get ourselves to that level. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it takes a little bit of patients, but doing

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<v Speaker 1>bad business is never accepted. Will no matter what level

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<v Speaker 1>we were at, definitely have to do good business. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we're gonna show our economic power this

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<v Speaker 1>holiday season. You know we're going to divest and invest

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<v Speaker 1>in us man. So by black man, go to my

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<v Speaker 1>page and you'll see all of the black designers there,

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<v Speaker 1>so many from high end you know, shoes and clothing

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<v Speaker 1>to sports in athletic with whatever you need. We got

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<v Speaker 1>it on my page, Man by Black speaking of of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, buying black caring for ourselves as black people.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk on to show a lot about Black women health.

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<v Speaker 1>We had coach Jesse on. Now we have another guest

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming up, and you know, I think it's so

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<v Speaker 1>important because we're trying to focus on everything our mental,

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<v Speaker 1>our pocketbook, our physical. We're trying to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>even our brothers get an opportunity to learn about women's

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<v Speaker 1>health because that has been such a disconnect. Just like

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned and then the last show, you never even

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<v Speaker 1>knew that there was a reason for you to care

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<v Speaker 1>about these things that was women's business take care of.

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<v Speaker 1>But we want to normalize conversations around health disparities and

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<v Speaker 1>around you know, things that, um, you know women, ways

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<v Speaker 1>in which women take care of themselves, need to take

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<v Speaker 1>care of themselves, um, and really just making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>as we talked about our economic power, we're not rich

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<v Speaker 1>and sick, you know, rich and day you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have a thing. Yeah, we have things and don't have life.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this Thanksgiving season or whatever, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>there's another term that folks started calling and no friends giving,

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<v Speaker 1>friends giving, friends giving, family giving during this time. A

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<v Speaker 1>big part of it is making sure you have but

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow when you walk into your family home and you're

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<v Speaker 1>about to pick up that that whatever with with the

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<v Speaker 1>um Queen of fool Is said, what you eat also

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<v Speaker 1>impacts a woman's reproductive system. When you're putting that good

0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.800
<v Speaker 1>macaroni and cheese and all of that good stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>I plan to eat in your mouth, just know that

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<v Speaker 1>it's also impacting your body. Let's go to our guests,

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<v Speaker 1>so at least, you know, we now have started to

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<v Speaker 1>bring new friends onto the show because the last few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks it's been a lot of new friends joining us

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<v Speaker 1>and people who quickly become family because they're doing such incredible, incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>incredible things. Um, you know, Black Folks is just doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love the fact that our show, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>unapologetically focuses on black excellence. And certainly our guest today

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<v Speaker 1>is an excellent black woman. Uh Dr Simone. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>you know her from being on the show, married to medicine,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's so much more to this woman born in Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>went to Spellman College, and you know, all the Greats

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<v Speaker 1>went to Spellman more House, So all the Greats um

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<v Speaker 1>to Spellman and and O. B. G. Y N, who

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<v Speaker 1>is also an activist in her own right for black women.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a family, a husband that you've seen on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. She's got two children. So much with this woman,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna learn more today about Dr Simone. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for joining Street Politicians. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for having me. It is an honor to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>It is definitely honor to have you. How are you

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<v Speaker 1>feeling today? I am doing great and would love to

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<v Speaker 1>just share some of the things that I have learned

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<v Speaker 1>over the years about black women's health and the importance

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<v Speaker 1>of black women taking care of ourselves and putting ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>as number one. We're speaking of taking care of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>You tell us about you because we don't know. We

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<v Speaker 1>see you on the show and we see this beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic black woman, but we don't know about your background

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<v Speaker 1>and how you got started. I'm originally from Nashville, Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 1>born and raised. I was born and raised by two

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<v Speaker 1>a two parent home with an alcoholic dad. My mom

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<v Speaker 1>divorced him around the time I was fifteen. Sixteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>but early in my life, probably eight to ten years old,

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<v Speaker 1>he just wasn't as functional as a dad, couldn't keep

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<v Speaker 1>a job, wasn't home a lot. When he was home, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>highly intoxicated. So that was my life. And my mother

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<v Speaker 1>was really smart. She worked really hard, She kept a

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<v Speaker 1>full time job, and she took really good care of

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<v Speaker 1>my sister and I. Education was always what she preached

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<v Speaker 1>and there were no other options other than education in

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<v Speaker 1>the household. I grew up there. When I was twelve

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<v Speaker 1>in junior high school, I was asked by my teacher

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<v Speaker 1>to do a research paper on what I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be when I grew up. And at the time, at twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that I wanted to help handicapped children. Nashville

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<v Speaker 1>had something every year called Special Olympics where they would highlight,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, handicapped children and we would go out volunteer

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<v Speaker 1>and participate, and I knew I wanted to be in

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<v Speaker 1>that arena helping handicapped children. And I went to my

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<v Speaker 1>dad and asked him, Hey, you know, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>write this research paper and I want to help handicapped children.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, well, I such and such does that.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't make any money. You're gonna want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a children's doctor so you can make money. And I

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<v Speaker 1>went to the library because at that time we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have Google. Um this was then early uh late seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>early eighties. So I went to the library, got the

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<v Speaker 1>encyclopedia out and found out a children's doctor is a pediatrician.

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<v Speaker 1>And I patterned the rest of my school into becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a pediatrician, which which meant taking a science, a math,

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<v Speaker 1>a foreign language in English every year because that was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be required for me to go to college college.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got to high school, I was fortunate enough

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<v Speaker 1>to have a black guidemce counselor, and she said to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to go to an HBCU, she said. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I sit on the board at Lane, she said, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to aspire to go higher than that,

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<v Speaker 1>to look at a school like Spellman. So after I

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<v Speaker 1>did my research on Spellman College, I did a senior

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<v Speaker 1>weekend at Spellman and knew I was home. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>had to come home and sell it to my mother,

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<v Speaker 1>who at this time is for you're a single mother.

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<v Speaker 1>She's thinking she can't to Ford Spellman College. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the people I graduated from high school. They went to

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee State, Middle Tennessee State, those schools, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>had to convince my mother that Spellman College was it.

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<v Speaker 1>We would apply for financial aid and we would just

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<v Speaker 1>make it happen. And that's exactly what happened. I um

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<v Speaker 1>applied to Spellman as a early applicant in the senior year,

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<v Speaker 1>got accepted, didn't apply to any other schools, attended Spellman,

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<v Speaker 1>and my first year at Spellman, so being on a

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<v Speaker 1>campus with all all of these beautiful black women. Growing

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<v Speaker 1>up in Tennessee, it was black, it was white. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see Indians, I didn't see Mexicans. I saw black,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw white. That was it my limited little scope

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<v Speaker 1>of things. So I get to Spellman. I'm seeing all

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<v Speaker 1>the different beautiful hues of black, but to the point

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>where I would see want someone who was very fair

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 1>skin and I would say, oh, okay, so there's a

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 1>white student and they would be like, no, she's black.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I had to learn that, Okay, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter what somebody looks like that I'm thinking that

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>they look like I gotta let that judgment go. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was an amazing experience. I get there as a freshman,

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<v Speaker 1>and every single week we had convocation where we had

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<v Speaker 1>to go in the chapel and a dynamic black woman

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<v Speaker 1>who was already out in the community in her career

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<v Speaker 1>in various cities would come to the chapel and they

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<v Speaker 1>would speak to us and they would say, I had

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to be where you're sitting, and look where

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 1>I am now, or I didn't have the opportunity. I

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<v Speaker 1>went to a white school, but look where I am now,

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<v Speaker 1>and you two can be here. It was an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>experience and just I had that love and the support

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<v Speaker 1>of being told you can do it. I love Spellman.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen nine and Um went to East Tennessee State

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<v Speaker 1>hill In College of Medicine. Now I'm my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking I'm smart. I'm thinking I'm gifted. Who got

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<v Speaker 1>to medical school? Medical school kicks some buts, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was there that I realized, Okay, I'm average.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta work hard, but I'm just average. And I

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 1>was the only black female in a class of about

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six and there was one black male in my class.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was here that taught me so much about

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<v Speaker 1>medical school was where I learned the most about racism.

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<v Speaker 1>I had always known that it existed and felt that

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<v Speaker 1>I had experienced some minor issues, but medical school was

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<v Speaker 1>certainly a whole another challenge. I would walk in UM

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<v Speaker 1>to a patient's room and they would say to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have nothing against y'all's kind, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to see you, and you know, I would walk

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>back out. I was completely fine with that, because I

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>believe that people have the right to see who they

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>want to see. But it was an interesting UM thing

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<v Speaker 1>as in medical school. I never shaved my legs. I

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:33.959
<v Speaker 1>had hairy legs, and I've shaved under my arms for

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>purposes of hygiene, but I had never shaved my legs.

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>And get to medical school and we're, you know, going

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>in doing a history and physical want a patient and

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the white attending It's like, okay, note this patient has

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>poor hygiene. So if the patient did not have shade legs,

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:58.919
<v Speaker 1>amongst some other things, she would be considered in poor hygiene.

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 1>So I started shaving my legs, but you know, because

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 1>I definitely never had poor hygiene. But it was funny

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>just learning things from a whole another standpoint and making

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>some adjustments in my own life. Uh, that were neither

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:21.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, good nor bad. But I did make the adjustments.

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I left East Tennessee State. I graduated in nineteen ninety three,

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 1>left there and went to Boston Medical Center, where I

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>was in the heart of the city um seeing patients

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and doing my residency training in ob July in And

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>let me back up, because when I entered medical school,

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I knew I wanted to be a pediatrician. I got there,

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>there was a little boy. Uh during my first rotation

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>of my clinical year, which is the third year, there

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>was a little boy who came in at ten years old.

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>He had a by sickle accident, fell off the bicycle.

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>He basically came in unresponsive. The e R team worked

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 1>on him for about an hour and fifteen minutes and

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>they were not able to resuscitate him. I never met

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>his mother, but I could hear her screaming through the

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>ear when she was told that he didn't make it.

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>And I made a decision that day. I called my

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>mother boo hoo who because I'm I knew that I

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>could not be that one to tell a mother that

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>her child didn't make it. And from there I was like,

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>am I gonna do surgery? Am? I gonna do O

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>B G I N. And when I did my O

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>B G I N rotation, I knew that was where

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>God wanted me to be because I loved everything about it.

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>And UM went UH started residency training in Boston and again,

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 1>and I may in experience because the majority of the

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>patients were black. We had a lot of women who

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>were on heroin and cocaine, and UM. It was definitely

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:15.479
<v Speaker 1>another eye opener. Growing up in Nashville, I we I

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>grew up on the UH lower income side, but I

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>never I never met her, saw a drug addic in Nashville,

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>And so here I was in the heart of Boston,

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>UM seeing crack addicts, seeing heroin addicts, and I would

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>see a woman come in throw her baby out, like

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>literally just push her baby out and leave back out

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>in an hour and leave that baby to the system.

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>And so from that I decided that probably going into

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>a hospital with lower socio economic probably wasn't gonna work

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>for me emotionally. I left Boston went to Memphis, Tennessee

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.479
<v Speaker 1>for private practice for two years. My goal in my

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>dream was to come back to Atlanta, but at the

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>time I left residency in nineteen seven, Atlanta was a

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>very competitive market to get back into, but it was

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:24.719
<v Speaker 1>the one place that Cecil and I um agreed that

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>we could live. I met Cec who as a senior

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>as spellman. He was a senior at Morehouse College at

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the time, and we dated that year, broke up because

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>we were young. Broke up. I headed on to medical school.

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>He hit it back to Los Angeles, where he was

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>originally born and raised and took a corporate job. We

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 1>um stayed in touch. I called it a fake friendship

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>because I would be like, Hey, I called you last night,

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>you weren't home. Did you stay the night out? No? No,

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I was hanging with the fellas. Was a fake friendship,

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and eventually, towards the end of medical school, we made

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>an agreement that we would get back together as a couple.

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 1>We would try the long distance thing, and once I

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>got to Boston, we made a decision that he would

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>relocate to Boston, and he reached out to some more

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>House brothers. They got him a job in Boston. He came,

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>and a year after he came, we got married. But

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>when we listed, each of us listed five cities that

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>we would be willing to live in Nashville was on

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>my list of places. Um Atlanta was on my list

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>of places. But the only city that was on both

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>lists was Atlanta. But I did not get a job.

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>So are interviewed in Houston, Texas, Austin, Texas, Memphis, Tennessee.

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>And I had a sister, my baby sister, the only

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>sister I have. She was in college in Memphis at

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the time. We made a decision to move to Memphis,

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>and I was in private practice in Memphis for two

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>years and then I landed a job here in Atlanta.

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>And I've been in Atlanta every since nineteen. I love Atlanta.

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Everybody lives in Atlanta. So you did all of that?

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>How did how did you end up on TV? From

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>having this like professional like I just I see like

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the transformation, like coming from you know, well to do

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of like well to do to family home and

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>just you know, and then not well to do. Keep

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>in mind my dad was an alcoholic and couldn't even

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>have keep a job. But my mother attended Tennessee stage

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>at a full time job. And I always lived in

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>a two bedroom apartment. We never lived in a house

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>because he couldn't keep a job, but she made it work.

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 1>She made it work, but it was but it wasn't. Uh.

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>You you grew up in a situation where you had support,

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I did, I did. Yes, Yes, you had support,

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>and then you went college you had this beautiful experience,

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and then you went to when you went to medical school,

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 1>that was when when I'm hearing how you just realized

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that racism really existed at that point, And that's that

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>must be I don't I don't even know how I

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 1>would feel walking into the room and people like, you know,

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want your kind to deal me And this

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>is a profession that I wanted to get involved with.

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>That mustn't really tough, man. So how did you make

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the transition from doing all of those things to TV?

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:35.919
<v Speaker 1>How did that even come about? Um? When I came

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.439
<v Speaker 1>to Atlanta, I came, like I said, in ninety nine,

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 1>at some point Real Housewife of Atlanta started And at

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the time they started, uh, you know, I was watching

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Cecil and I watched a lot of reality TV show

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 1>even before that, like Survivors, uh, the American Idol, those

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of shows. Anyway, one day, out of the blue,

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>one of my patients who I had also become friends with,

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>she asked me, you know, would you be willing I'm

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to develop some concepts, would you be willing to audition?

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 1>So I auditioned two or three years UM. I had

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:21.359
<v Speaker 1>received an email from a lawyer friend of mine who

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>knew that the Doctor's show was starting UM on ABC.

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I auditioned for that, but at the time, never having

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>been in television, never auditioned for anything in television. Before

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>interviewing for the Doctors and now what it's called Mary

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 1>to Medicine, I didn't. I didn't wear makeup other than lipstick.

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't wear makeup. I didn't where we've and so

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm interviewing without makeup with without you know,

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>we've And finally on the third audition, the third audition

0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:01.360
<v Speaker 1>for this concept for Mary to Medicine, my girlfriend she

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 1>said to me, she said, I want you to get

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.280
<v Speaker 1>professional makeup. I want you to put on your cutest

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>black dress and give it to him. And so again

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 1>it was a concept. I knew I didn't want to

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:16.959
<v Speaker 1>be on housewives. I enjoyed watching them, but I didn't

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 1>think I had the stamina to be on housewives and UM,

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and so I just was like, you know, I don't

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 1>lose anything by auditioning for this show. I would love

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>to be on TV. And then boom, I get a call, Hey,

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 1>you've been chosen for Married to Medicine. Bravo has picked

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 1>us up and we're gonna shoot a show. So I'm like, okay, bet,

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>still not knowing exactly what I was getting into. But

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.919
<v Speaker 1>what I would say, having been on my show now

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:55.919
<v Speaker 1>for nine years, is that I love my show. There

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 1>are some things about it that are amazing and fantastic,

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and I've certainly been in the room with some people

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 1>I would not have been in the room with otherwise.

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 1>And then there's the down part where women you like

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:12.439
<v Speaker 1>or you think you trust, we fall out and we're

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>not speaking anymore. UM. That has probably been the toughest

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 1>part of reality TV for me. How many seasons have

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you been on? Nine? So it was it nine years?

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>So okay, I'm one of the o gs. Oh wow

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you from the beginning of nine years. It's the season

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 1>every year is that Oh my gosh, that's a that's

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of filming, UM And we know because we

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>film also for things, and we filmed a lot of

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 1>UM of the not this season, but the season prior

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>of um loving hip hop because they were with us

0:37:54.280 --> 0:38:00.280
<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky while we were fighting for Brianna Taylor. Remember

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>saying that, Yeah, the cast members joined us and so

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 1>we did a lot. And I'll tell you so much

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>of it is harrying up to wait. You know, everybody's

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 1>got a Harry, Harry Harry and then you do nothing

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>but sit around and wait to actually film the show. Um,

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's it's a lot of work. But do

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>you have regrets because I know that it's taken you

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>away from your children at time. Obviously you know, we

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 1>all know that there's been challenges in your marriage that

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>played out on TV. Like, do you have regrets that

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:34.839
<v Speaker 1>your whole life has sort of been on the big

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>screen or you at this point just like you know,

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 1>it is what it is. And the other thing is

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>coming from Nashville, you are very very assertive. Um. Just

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, watching you here, you would one would think, okay,

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you came from I don't know exactly where in Nashville,

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 1>but a town in Nashville. Maybe you wouldn't be the

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>person to decide to become a doctor because you know,

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>perhaps you might not want to go in the rooms

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 1>as my son said, But then, okay, you overcome that.

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Now you go and you, after all these other things,

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 1>you get on TV and decided to to put yourself

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>out there. It's very, very empowering for someone who's sitting

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>in not Nashville or a country town around this country

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 1>that they can become very much like you if they

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>take chances. I think that it is important, number one,

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>to surround yourself by people of like mind, who are

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>who aspire to be successful and to be the best

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 1>that they can be at whatever it is a person chooses,

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it just so happened for me. My love was science,

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 1>and medicine was the next best step for me. But

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 1>what I say is that being on TV has definitely

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>had its challenges. But I come as my authentic self.

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't try to pretend to be somebody that I'm not.

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't try to act out in a way that

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't act out in my normal life without the camera. Um,

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>it is a very taxing for months out of the

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>year when we film, because you're busy, and I tell

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>anybody it's like working to full time jobs. At the

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:23.799
<v Speaker 1>same time, we have had the same production company for

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 1>nine years and they accommodate my schedule as a doctor.

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 1>So everyone understands that I'm in solo practice. I share

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:38.840
<v Speaker 1>night and weekend call with some other ladies, but not

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the daytime. And so in the daytime, if I'm filming

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and I say to the production crew, hey, my lady

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>is ten centimeter she's feeling pressure. I gotta go, everybody

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>just understands and they get it. And you know, the

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>production crew, they get excited. Uh they have rigged my

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 1>car with camera us so that they can, you know,

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:05.319
<v Speaker 1>see me drive down to the hospital and fuss at

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the people in traffic to get out of my way

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 1>so I can hurry up and get to my baby.

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>But again, that part of it has been amazing. Now

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 1>there are some parts where you know, production says, hey

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 1>show up at seven pm and you get there at

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.439
<v Speaker 1>seven and they're not ready for you. They're not gonna

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>be ready until seven seven. That's what this is for.

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 1>So in my car, my laptop is there. Every time

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 1>my head somewhere, my laptop is there. Because you learn

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:42.880
<v Speaker 1>how to utilize that extra thirty forty five minutes until

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>they're ready for you. I'm a people part. You are

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 1>a real medical doctor, like absolutely just a TV doctor,

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 1>real medical profession, that's right. I am boy certified and

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 1>O B, G I N. And I have been in

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 1>private practice since nineteen ninety seven. How may deliver? What

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 1>do you think about you? You know, like I said,

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I've been in private practice since nineteen nine seven and

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I deliver about a hundred and two hundred babies a year.

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Since COVID, how how has COVID like impacted the O

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>G Y N professional? How do you see an impact

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 1>especially black women? How do you how do you see

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>that plan out? I think COVID truly highlighted the healthcare

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:37.760
<v Speaker 1>disparities with African Americans. Baby, we are at the top

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:41.399
<v Speaker 1>of the list for everything that gets ignored. So I

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like now my schedule is just overflowing with black

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 1>women who want to see a black woman. And that

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:55.399
<v Speaker 1>was something I had never felt in my career. Yes,

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>sometimes the patient would come in and say, oh, I

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>was looking for a like doctor and I found you.

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>But the majority of the time of patients come in

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and just say, oh, you were in my zip code

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 1>or my insurance company said you are on my plan.

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:15.919
<v Speaker 1>And now the majority of the women I see new patients,

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>they have sought specifically sought out a black female. UM

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>George Floyd's death, and not to discount anybody else's like

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Brianna Taylor or Mark Aubrey, but George Floyd's death and

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>COVID how really brought to the forefront and highlighted the

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>disparities that we as African Americans have by the disparities

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>with the police force, in the health care system. And

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that again, it is a wonderful thing to

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>see people rise to the occasion. I know that something

0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 1>needs to be done. But when I say pe boll,

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean everybody, not just blacks, also whites, because this

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:08.320
<v Speaker 1>was the first time you even see marketing a little

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 1>bit different with some of these major companies now and brands.

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>And I think that, um, we have suffered a long time.

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 1>We have suffered a lot, and I do feel like

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>some people are trying to make amends. We have a

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>long way to go, but we as blacks, we have

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to we have to own accountability and we have to

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 1>put ourselves first. And when I say own accountability, you

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.879
<v Speaker 1>know when you get pregnant, you really need to number one.

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Especially with role versus way being overturned. You need to

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>be in a relationship with somebody you want to have

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 1>a baby with. In today's time, you want to be

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 1>in the best health. You want to be on your

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 1>prenatal vitamin. You really want to be at your best way.

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Because when you come into the pres men see and

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:04.720
<v Speaker 1>you're morbid Leo Bees or you're almost morbid Leo Bees,

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you have a higher risk of everything, higher risk of

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 1>preterm labor, higher risk of pre acclamsy, higher risk of

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 1>gestational diabetes, higher risk of dying in labor and childbirth.

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 1>And so you have to know that you've got to

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.839
<v Speaker 1>take the best care of yourself. And I'm not saying

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 1>don't get pregnant if you're overweight, do it, but just

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 1>know and try to be attentive beyond time to those

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 1>pre natal visits and follow those to a t. If

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the doctor asks you to start medication for high blood pressure,

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 1>start the medication despite your mama telling you not to.

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Because those are the some of the challenges that we

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 1>have where patients will come in and they'll say, well,

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>my mama said I shouldn't take that medication. But I'm like,

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 1>you're black. I'm black, and I'm asking you to take

0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 1>the medication. And what I try to reassure my patients.

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't come in with a bunch of medical jargon.

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I talk to you as if you were my best girlfriend,

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 1>if you were my sister, UM, because I want you

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 1>to understand that you and I are the same, we

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:16.080
<v Speaker 1>are no different, And I take care of you because

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I love my job and for no other reason. So

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>you find so you have found that. UM. I guess

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 1>when I'm hearing you say on the accountability piece, and

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 1>it is always very triggering when we hear people talking

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:40.359
<v Speaker 1>about black folks taking accountability because we feel like we're

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 1>always we always have to be accountable for everything and

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 1>we are forced to. Um you know, I guess we

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 1>we deal with the harshest of society everything. But when

0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 1>I hear when I hear it in the context for

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:58.320
<v Speaker 1>which you were just saying, you gotta take care of yourself.

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get pregnant right now. Again, like you said,

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Roe v. Wade has been overturned. Many states are having

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 1>issues with the right to choose. We even have issues

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>where um, you know, people are unable to get access

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 1>to birth control. So if you're having sex, you have

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:22.479
<v Speaker 1>to make the right decisions, make sure that whomever you're

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:25.360
<v Speaker 1>engaging with is someone that's taking care of themselves so

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 1>that they can take care of you. And your body

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 1>must be taken care of. You know, you just said

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 1>your weight. You talked about your prenative vitamins. I know

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>so many young women that don't take prenative vitamins. They

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:41.880
<v Speaker 1>don't take them at all, you know, And then once

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:45.760
<v Speaker 1>they have a baby, there are other challenges that exist

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 1>in terms of how they're still either taking care of

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:52.879
<v Speaker 1>themselves and their baby or not. And so from that perspective,

0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:56.680
<v Speaker 1>accountability sounds right, you know, it sounds right. We have

0:47:56.840 --> 0:48:00.120
<v Speaker 1>to be smarter about the decisions that we make. And

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I wonder, as you're in this field, do you find

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 1>yourself being more like you said, good girlfriend? You know,

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 1>do you find yourself being like a therapist for so

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 1>many women? And and not so much that you're unable

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 1>to do your job, but you spend a lot of

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 1>time being drained by having to wear those that have

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:29.440
<v Speaker 1>of of counseling and coaching women along. So let me

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 1>say that it is not draining. And and I do

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 1>often get in trouble when I say accountability, but in

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a major metropolitan area, like Atlanta. All of these young people,

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>they have cell phones. So if some doctor gives you

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a diagnosis, I need for you to get on Google.

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 1>We're googling everything else. We're googling the lyrics to this phone.

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 1>We're googling the latest trend and outfits. Get on Google,

0:48:56.440 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 1>right down the name of you know this disorder or

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:03.720
<v Speaker 1>disease that the doctor has given you. Get on Google.

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Do some research about that disease. Be able to come

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:10.879
<v Speaker 1>the next time and ask questions and say, hey, you

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 1>said that, How did you come to this conclusion? What

0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:16.759
<v Speaker 1>are my treatment options? Oh? You only gave me one

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>treatment options, but I read over here there are two

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:23.440
<v Speaker 1>other ones. How do you feel about that? And understanding

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 1>that we have choices. You don't get the right answer

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:28.279
<v Speaker 1>with Dr A. It's time to head on over to

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Dr B. I know that everyone doesn't have access. I

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 1>know that UM and we're not all. I feel like

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm a teacher. I'm an educator in my job. I

0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 1>am a therapist in my job, and what I try

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:49.320
<v Speaker 1>to do is help women understand. I had a patient

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>one time, Boo, when she had gotten pregnant by someone

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 1>she was dating for less than six months. They broke

0:49:56.800 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 1>up during the pregnancy, hit moved on. He got a

0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 1>new girlfriend. Now she has the baby, and he's telling

0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:06.880
<v Speaker 1>her that he wants a DNA test, and she was

0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 1>so upset and so angry, and I said to her,

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I said, listen, I said, if I have two sons

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and so a DNA were request, even though you know

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you have been with him, it it is not an

0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:26.800
<v Speaker 1>unreasonable request that he's asking. And also for legal reasons,

0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:31.040
<v Speaker 1>once you have that declared that he is the father,

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:34.919
<v Speaker 1>you can hold him accountable financially. That's sort of a thing.

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 1>So this is not a negative thing that he's asking you.

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:43.360
<v Speaker 1>But I try to just have empathy when I'm talking

0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to my patients, but I also try to get them

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to take some accountability to for actions and what are

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 1>we gonna do differently moving forward with the next guy

0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:59.200
<v Speaker 1>that we choose to have sex with. For fan, don't

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:01.760
<v Speaker 1>have sex. I was a young person who had sex.

0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:06.960
<v Speaker 1>But let's let's go into the relationship thinking of me,

0:51:07.080 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 1>myself and I when we enter that relationship, it must

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:18.880
<v Speaker 1>be a lot because when I'm listening to you, right,

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I have a feel like I have phobias, and like

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 1>doctors and all types of things like that. So a

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:26.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of us are scared to ask questions, right, A

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:29.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of us are scared to go against the doctor.

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 1>The doctor says something, you don't you know you you

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:34.479
<v Speaker 1>just go with the doctor says you don't You don't

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:36.400
<v Speaker 1>really question that. A lot of us have that. Do

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:38.399
<v Speaker 1>you find that a lot of people that you deal

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 1>with have those same issues that you have to give

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 1>them levels of courage to even inquire about the health.

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 1>One of the reasons I worked so hard on my

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:52.560
<v Speaker 1>bedside manner is to break down that barrier. If you

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:55.719
<v Speaker 1>see me like I'm your friend, like we could kick it,

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:58.200
<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the day, I'm a human

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:02.359
<v Speaker 1>being just like you are. If you see me like that,

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it helps too to humanize doctors and know that, okay,

0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I can ask her questions. And I also think it

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:17.560
<v Speaker 1>helps the patients to realize in any other setting. So

0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 1>that's the relationship I have with my O, B g U,

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I N. I need to look for that relationship with

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the primary care doctor, with the cardiologists, with the end

0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:31.120
<v Speaker 1>of chronologists. And what I always remind patients is that

0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:36.120
<v Speaker 1>different doctors have different personalities. That's okay, but in a

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 1>major metropolitan area like Atlanta, d C, Houston, you got options,

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 1>and don't just settle if somebody is asking you, if

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 1>you're asking a question and somebody is not answering those questions.

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 1>And again Google is a good source of information, but

0:52:57.120 --> 0:53:00.239
<v Speaker 1>if you can't go in to your doctor or and

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:04.759
<v Speaker 1>discuss what you read on Google, that's a problem. And

0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the more and more that we educate young people, you know,

0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:11.880
<v Speaker 1>even when I give the opportunity to give lecture and

0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:14.600
<v Speaker 1>there are older people in the room, again, I keep

0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:18.440
<v Speaker 1>it simple when we talk about cardiovascular disease with strokes

0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:21.799
<v Speaker 1>and heart attacks, I tell them, if you know every

0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Sunday you're going by the Popeyes, we got a problem

0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:28.320
<v Speaker 1>because the Popeye's is not the best thing for you.

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:32.400
<v Speaker 1>And we gotta do more fruits and vegetables, fresh fruits

0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:38.239
<v Speaker 1>and vegetables and just talking two people and educating in

0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:41.600
<v Speaker 1>a way that we get it. It's not that complicated,

0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:44.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not that threatening, but in a way that we

0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:50.239
<v Speaker 1>can reach the masses. Yeah, well, I am. I can

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:53.920
<v Speaker 1>hear from the way in which you're speaking that you

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 1>have the type of doctor that doesn't run out of

0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the room in five minutes because you know, most most

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:03.520
<v Speaker 1>those offices they back it up ten minutes with the patient,

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:09.840
<v Speaker 1>which includes actually doing the physical portion and the conversation

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:13.439
<v Speaker 1>and as also O B G y ms. I've had

0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 1>many um that you know that I did not I

0:54:17.120 --> 0:54:21.399
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel I didn't. I just didn't feel protected, respected

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:27.040
<v Speaker 1>or even um And you know, as I've gotten older.

0:54:27.040 --> 0:54:30.040
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I was on a I did a show

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:34.640
<v Speaker 1>with Jada Pinkett Smith, a red table talk uh some

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:39.440
<v Speaker 1>time back, and there was a woman there who broke

0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 1>down how dangerous it is for your doctor not to

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:45.920
<v Speaker 1>pay attention and spend time with you, and how that

0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:49.600
<v Speaker 1>led to some very serious health challenges that she had.

0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:52.160
<v Speaker 1>And I left there and made a decision that I

0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:55.080
<v Speaker 1>would not go back to the doctor that I had

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 1>because she just didn't treat me well, you know, and

0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I honestly I didn't even like her. And I always thought,

0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 1>like my son growing up, it didn't matter. It was

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:07.279
<v Speaker 1>like a transaction. You just go to the doctors and

0:55:07.440 --> 0:55:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to like them. You just go. You

0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:12.120
<v Speaker 1>get done with it. Is they can be rude to you,

0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:15.040
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, because it's just enough that I've learned

0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:18.839
<v Speaker 1>that a relationship with your doctor. It's super important. So

0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:21.759
<v Speaker 1>you talked about spreading your message to the world, and

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:24.439
<v Speaker 1>now you have a book that I've heard. I think

0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:27.720
<v Speaker 1>that you're not telling folks the name of the book yet.

0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:31.520
<v Speaker 1>But do we know what the book is about? And

0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:35.239
<v Speaker 1>how do people stay in touch with you other than

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:37.799
<v Speaker 1>watching your show? What are some other ways that folks

0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 1>can stay in touch with you to, you know, learn

0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 1>more about the tips of taking care of themselves as

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:48.080
<v Speaker 1>black women. So Number one, Cecil and I were writing

0:55:48.080 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 1>a couple's book because we have been married for twenty

0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:54.000
<v Speaker 1>six years and we wanted to be able to share

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:57.160
<v Speaker 1>some of the anothers that have kept us together. I

0:55:57.200 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 1>filed for divorce inen we were have being s marital

0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:03.959
<v Speaker 1>problems that I didn't think we were gonna be able

0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:07.919
<v Speaker 1>to overcome. And let me say, if it were not

0:56:08.080 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 1>for a reality TV and for the couples that are

0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 1>on my show that believe in marriage, that believe in

0:56:16.200 --> 0:56:19.279
<v Speaker 1>sticking in through the tough times, Cecil and I would

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 1>not have made it. We are both very, very stubborn

0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 1>people were headed down a divorce track. Not angry. He

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't angry, I wasn't angry. Um but just you know,

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 1>we had backed up in our corner like I'm not

0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:40.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna compromise with you anymore. And it it was the

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:44.440
<v Speaker 1>cast that got in our faces during Reunion, I think

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 1>season five. They got in our faces and helped us

0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:52.000
<v Speaker 1>realize that we should be fighting for our marriage just

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:54.640
<v Speaker 1>like they were fighting for our marriage, both of us.

0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:59.839
<v Speaker 1>And we hadn't dealt with anything that was significant enough

0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:02.160
<v Speaker 1>that we should have even been going through a divorce

0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 1>in the first place. But I am a woman who

0:57:05.800 --> 0:57:10.160
<v Speaker 1>wallows in my pettiness in my buildings, and that was

0:57:10.880 --> 0:57:13.640
<v Speaker 1>part of the struggle. But let me say that I

0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 1>am on UM. Most of the social media platforms uh, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter,

0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't spend a lot of time on social media

0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:30.320
<v Speaker 1>UM and I you know, most of my posts are social,

0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 1>they're not medical. When I get the opportunity wherever I'm

0:57:33.680 --> 0:57:36.840
<v Speaker 1>asked to come and give a medical lecture, I do that.

0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:41.000
<v Speaker 1>One year, I came to a room full of midwives

0:57:41.000 --> 0:57:44.320
<v Speaker 1>and doulas. I was asked to come there by the

0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:46.640
<v Speaker 1>one of the women who helped put that event on,

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and I got booed. I got booed when I talked

0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:53.200
<v Speaker 1>about black women taking some accountability and learning to go

0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:58.400
<v Speaker 1>on Google. Um. I got booed when I stated that, yes,

0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 1>a doula is welcome in the living room, but she

0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:03.640
<v Speaker 1>has to know her place. There's a place for the

0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:06.920
<v Speaker 1>do Look who has a certificate in training and there's

0:58:07.000 --> 0:58:11.280
<v Speaker 1>my place who has a doctorate in medicine and who

0:58:11.440 --> 0:58:15.800
<v Speaker 1>had a residency training for four years. And we're not

0:58:15.920 --> 0:58:19.720
<v Speaker 1>on the same level. But the goal of the patients

0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:22.720
<v Speaker 1>should be the same and there should not be an

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:29.880
<v Speaker 1>antagon antagonistic relationship in the delivery room. Um. Again, I

0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:33.720
<v Speaker 1>know the type of care. They didn't go well. It

0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:37.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't go well. They were angry. Yeah, it didn't go well.

0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:41.320
<v Speaker 1>But I but again, I I still by what I

0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 1>said because I know the type of doctor I am.

0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not spending five minutes with my patients, and I

0:58:47.840 --> 0:58:53.120
<v Speaker 1>try to connect on a level that's personal. Tell me

0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:57.800
<v Speaker 1>what your Thanksgiving plans are, tell me you know? Um

0:58:57.920 --> 0:59:01.520
<v Speaker 1>And like I saw patients, it's more ning who She's

0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:06.000
<v Speaker 1>had three deaths, three family depths in a very short

0:59:06.080 --> 0:59:08.560
<v Speaker 1>period of time. And I said to her, are you

0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:11.840
<v Speaker 1>in grief counseling? Have you thought about it? And I

0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:14.840
<v Speaker 1>said to her, when my dad died in I got

0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:19.120
<v Speaker 1>in grief counseling and so and people. Even before I

0:59:19.120 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 1>was on TV, people heard about my husband, my children,

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:27.440
<v Speaker 1>because again, it's a whole human connection that we should

0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:30.320
<v Speaker 1>be having and you shouldn't just think of me as

0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 1>some sterile person out there. I don't wear a white

0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:37.360
<v Speaker 1>coat in the office because I don't want the stigma

0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that someone might place on me. I don't want you

0:59:40.720 --> 0:59:43.600
<v Speaker 1>to come in and have high blood pressure because you're

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:46.960
<v Speaker 1>anxious about coming to see me. That's not what I

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:50.440
<v Speaker 1>want our relationship to be based on. Well, we appreciate you,

0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:54.960
<v Speaker 1>doctor Simone. You're very unique. That is absolutely for sure.

0:59:55.040 --> 0:59:58.160
<v Speaker 1>You're unique as a doctor, unique to be a doctor

0:59:58.160 --> 1:00:02.360
<v Speaker 1>who is also on tv UM and you know you.

1:00:02.800 --> 1:00:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I think there's so much listening to you. It's very

1:00:05.920 --> 1:00:08.919
<v Speaker 1>clear that and you said you're a teacher that at

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<v Speaker 1>some point to me in your future, you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>in front of classrooms around the world trying to help

1:00:15.560 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 1>people learn how to treat patients better UM and how

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, really, like you said, take accountability for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and your health. I think that message is important

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. And like I said, when you

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<v Speaker 1>first said it, I was triggered, like, oh boy, we're

1:00:31.800 --> 1:00:34.920
<v Speaker 1>always being told to take accountability. But after I listened

1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:36.960
<v Speaker 1>to you, I know what you're saying is true. We

1:00:37.000 --> 1:00:41.120
<v Speaker 1>do have to be responsible for our We have to

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<v Speaker 1>do our part is basically, and we can't expect somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>And I tell my patients when your blood pressure is

1:00:49.280 --> 1:00:51.400
<v Speaker 1>guy high, and I tell you to leave here and

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<v Speaker 1>go straight to the hospital, don't run to the walmart

1:00:54.800 --> 1:00:58.280
<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna piss me off. And I cannot care

1:00:58.400 --> 1:01:02.280
<v Speaker 1>more about you than you care about yourself. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I talk to them. And you know, some patients

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna love my personality and some people are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh I can't. I don't like her. As

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<v Speaker 1>long as you know that you come from a place

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<v Speaker 1>of love and you're doing it genuinely and you care

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<v Speaker 1>about them, you know, I say the same thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not for everybody, but I know that if for you,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get it, you got it. So we just

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<v Speaker 1>want to say for the work that you do, for

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<v Speaker 1>your energy, you know, for what you came to the show,

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<v Speaker 1>what you want of our friends now, so we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>definitely have you up here. Then continue to be great queen,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know we love what you represent and you

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<v Speaker 1>all keep doing your thing. Um, it's amazing to watch. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it inspires me and makes me want to be

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<v Speaker 1>more active, UM and at least doing my part. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say that one year I was so caught up,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the year of uh, George Floor Briana Taylor,

1:02:02.520 --> 1:02:06.439
<v Speaker 1>that I went to the training to be a poll

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<v Speaker 1>worker at at the election stations. But again, you know,

1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:13.360
<v Speaker 1>we fall off the wagon. We don't do We get

1:02:13.480 --> 1:02:16.680
<v Speaker 1>caught up in our own lives and busy little lives.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's you are inspiring people every day. So I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you all just keep doing what you're doing. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>You inspire us and will inspire you. Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know I can tell by um, by the

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<v Speaker 1>way that Dr Simone presents herself how on the show

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<v Speaker 1>everybody is clashing because she's so confident and she wants

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about accountability and she's very she's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we share a little bit of the like

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<v Speaker 1>um count familiar. She sounds like a little like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know everything. We know everything about it, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>and but you know, as you said, so long as

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming from a place of love. Um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important and to get the show, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>the show that's cool, and that's her a platform for her.

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<v Speaker 1>But in her medical rooms, you know, and her bedside

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<v Speaker 1>man as she said that to me is what I

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<v Speaker 1>was most interested in. And I hope that what people

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<v Speaker 1>take from this conversation is, Yeah, like I said, she

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<v Speaker 1>came from Nashville. You know, she has worked her way.

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<v Speaker 1>She had the support of her parents helping her with

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<v Speaker 1>her dreams. You know. Willow said something the other day

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought was so powerful. He's like, if your

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<v Speaker 1>kids have these sort of you know, wild grandiose ideas,

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<v Speaker 1>don't shoot them down, right, like, support them because if

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<v Speaker 1>you support their dreams, you never know where might go.

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<v Speaker 1>And because of the fact that you know, her father

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<v Speaker 1>pushed her and said, know, you need to become a

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<v Speaker 1>doctor so you can make money. And then her mom

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<v Speaker 1>invested in her and did whatever it was necess because

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<v Speaker 1>even though you get financial aid, going to Spellman still costs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still expenses all around. It's a penny. And her

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<v Speaker 1>mom did that despite the fact that her dad left,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's an it's encouraging and inspirational to

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<v Speaker 1>know that no matter what, she kept pushing on, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and pushed her way through, and people supported her,

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<v Speaker 1>got her all the way to a school that supports

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<v Speaker 1>black people important, you know, going to an HVC. You So,

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<v Speaker 1>by the time she made it what it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>to me, by the time she made it to medical

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<v Speaker 1>school where she did experience racism, she already had embedded

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<v Speaker 1>in her who she is, you know. So Spellman already

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<v Speaker 1>gave her a good foundation and she used the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of it as tools to get to where she is now.

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<v Speaker 1>And where she is now is an important place because

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<v Speaker 1>black women and black men need, uh medical physicians that

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<v Speaker 1>help you not just with your whatever they're focused on,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's you know, your v J J or your head,

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<v Speaker 1>your ears, your eyes, whatever it is the heart, but

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<v Speaker 1>also looking at your life holistically. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that she approaches it from that perspective, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's like really really important. It's really really important, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It is just you know, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>the level of confidence that she has the energy is

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<v Speaker 1>what got her through all those things. Just listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the different levels of things that she went through, and

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't seem she seemed unscaped. She seemed like she

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<v Speaker 1>was prepared. She didn't say when I walked into the

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<v Speaker 1>room and they said we don't want to see your kind,

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<v Speaker 1>that it broke or made like she said, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>was fine with it, you know, And and she continued

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<v Speaker 1>to move on whatever it gave, whatever life gave a

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<v Speaker 1>little limits, she continued to make lemonade. So I love

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<v Speaker 1>her energy, you know, I love her ability to continue

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<v Speaker 1>on like she will. As like explaining her in the

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<v Speaker 1>room full of dulas, you know, as a doctor, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like taboo kind of because it's kind of like, even

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<v Speaker 1>though they're supposed to work together, just don't believe in

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<v Speaker 1>modern medicine. They don't believe that there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things that they have in common. So her still standing

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<v Speaker 1>on her pivot and that I would love to have

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<v Speaker 1>seen seeking her just like yeah, you know, well, because

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<v Speaker 1>she's firm and her conviction, she believes what she believes work.

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<v Speaker 1>She's educated, So you know, I think she's got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time to talk about it. But part of

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<v Speaker 1>the issue with the duelas is not so much her

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<v Speaker 1>as one doctor, but the system that she represents. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, so I get it. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually a good follow up, Congo. But do they

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<v Speaker 1>have doctors for male parts? No, there's no doctor, like

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<v Speaker 1>how we have over g ry and they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>like the doctor for the male Um, we have the doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly what they probably do. I just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We're called like, you know, we just go see the doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta go see the doctors to something wrong. Okay, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But on another topic, my my, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get it today. It's about something I've seen and we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get to talk about on the show yet. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was one savage. He made a statement and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about Nos this new album and NAS and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe they were on Clubhouse and you know, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I just dropped a classic album album that I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to is really dope. And over the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>NAS has constantly dropped projects the King Disease one, two,

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<v Speaker 1>and three, which I think our stellar pieces of World,

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<v Speaker 1>along with hit Boy, and you know it's released. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was a conversation on Clubhouse and he made a

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<v Speaker 1>statement that just kind of threw me off. I just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get it. He said. He said, Nas it's irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 1>He just has a um consistent? Was it? He said consistent?

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<v Speaker 1>He has a he said he's irrelevant, but he as

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<v Speaker 1>a consistent And I didn't understand how do you get

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<v Speaker 1>a consistent fan base if you're irrelevant? Right, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really understand that, Like what makes what is

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<v Speaker 1>the the criteria for irrelevancy? And I hear that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times with a lot of younger artists, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've been taught that and and and I

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<v Speaker 1>understood it when I was young, right, Because when I

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<v Speaker 1>was young, seventies eighties, that's when hip hop started, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So hip hop was a young persons sport, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>young person's field. But now hip hop turned fifty this year,

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<v Speaker 1>So that means that people who were listening to hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop at at twenty in the seventies are damned seventies

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<v Speaker 1>some of them or seven need right now you're the

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<v Speaker 1>same saying, so hip hop is way older. So the

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<v Speaker 1>journey has spread out and the definition and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>different um core groups listen to and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>us are able to relate more than the people before

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<v Speaker 1>us was because hip hop was young then it was

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<v Speaker 1>just one thing. So as we grew older, we started

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<v Speaker 1>to adapt different pieces. We took pieces from blues, we

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<v Speaker 1>took pieces from hip, probably took piece from rock and roll,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're able to incorporate. And I think that's what

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<v Speaker 1>NAS has been able to do. He's been able to

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<v Speaker 1>recreate itself and and even grab younger fans. Like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of younger people, my son knows Nas is music,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying that twenty so he's able

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to captivate. So I think that this premise

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<v Speaker 1>of being irrelevant as you become an older artist, it

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<v Speaker 1>just to me, it doesn't really I don't really get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand it. It doesn't really make sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need to, um just kill that. Kill that.

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<v Speaker 1>Um mind state that because somebody's older than they irrelevant,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they because they don't because they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually the word was wrong. The word was wrong. And

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<v Speaker 1>also it was something else you said that I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to respond to. You said that, um oh, hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it evolved. I think a part of evolution

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<v Speaker 1>is that it became much more cultural. If it became fashion,

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<v Speaker 1>it became food, it became everything, all the things you

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<v Speaker 1>could think of, But I guess what I could say

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<v Speaker 1>to which, by the way, I thought I saw somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty one Savage basically, Um, you know, when being

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<v Speaker 1>challenged on his word, he said something else, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea what it is, but I think he

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<v Speaker 1>not so much cleaned it up but tried to correct

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is that people felt or what he said.

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<v Speaker 1>So check that out. But anyway, UM, I think, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you're even in my own life, like at forty two,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not irrelevant in any way, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>younger people coming up behind me that will probably be

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<v Speaker 1>and they are in many ways they're hot. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think about Tiffany Loften. This is a young lady

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<v Speaker 1>who if people have to make a decision about like

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<v Speaker 1>who they're going to call to organize certain things, I

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<v Speaker 1>would tell them they should if they could get her,

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<v Speaker 1>they should go with her, because she's got her finger

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<v Speaker 1>more on the pulse in terms of like student debt

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, issues that matter to younger people. But

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany also calls me every few days so that we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk through what she's working on. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>yang and yang. I'm not trying to be the older

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<v Speaker 1>person that stays in the mix forever and and does

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<v Speaker 1>not allow an evolution of our younger people activists, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we would say the same for artists and

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise to grow and to come into their own But

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make me irrelevant. What I do understand, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is this idea that a part of it is your

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<v Speaker 1>fan your your supporters that have been with you, that

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<v Speaker 1>will always be with you, which is a strong support base.

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't mean that you're able necessarily to tap

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<v Speaker 1>into the younger group of people or those who are

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<v Speaker 1>sort of coming in. So do youth make you relevant? No, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't think it's youth, even though I think

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<v Speaker 1>youth represents time right, And so what they will say

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<v Speaker 1>in churches, I've heard past to say, if there are

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<v Speaker 1>no young people in your congregation, the church is dying

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<v Speaker 1>because the older people are going to be out the door.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't have new inn g coming into

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<v Speaker 1>the church, then it begins to lose sort of it's gravitas,

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<v Speaker 1>it loses its place, That's what I'm trying to tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>So that so that means if you if if you gotta,

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<v Speaker 1>if if if a church has a core fan base

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<v Speaker 1>of ten and fifteen thousand people in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>stage there, right, I mean if you got a core fan,

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<v Speaker 1>So how how could you ever be irrelevant with that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fan? If you look at if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Reverend Reverend Jakes, right, I don't, I can't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see the older he gets. I don't see his

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<v Speaker 1>relevancy diminishing. I don't really see, but I don't. So,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is what I'm saying. I think the word

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<v Speaker 1>relevant is wrong and I am unable to find a

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<v Speaker 1>new word at this time. You know, words is like

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<v Speaker 1>my thing that I'm always working on. What is the

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<v Speaker 1>word that I want to say? Um, So, relevance is

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<v Speaker 1>not the right terminology. But but even TV Jake's recently

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<v Speaker 1>installed his daughter, uh Sarah Jake's over women art Thou,

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<v Speaker 1>which has now changed to I think women evolved, because

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<v Speaker 1>even he understands that as he gets older, Yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>members of his church will probably be with him forever,

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<v Speaker 1>but it will be it will begin to die off

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<v Speaker 1>if he does not bring the daughter's energy. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's I think that's how you become, that's how you

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<v Speaker 1>stay well, if you if you're not incorporated, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not incorporated the current energy and the current you know,

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<v Speaker 1>um and things of that nature. If you're not incorporating

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<v Speaker 1>those things, then of course you're going to die. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you have the ability to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to incorporate those things and stay current and those things

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<v Speaker 1>and attach yourself two things and bring out the newest

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<v Speaker 1>young artists and see the New York I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>the level of how the reason why. I'm only just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to have grace for the fact that sometimes when

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to articulate something we might not have the

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<v Speaker 1>right language or even understand what it is we're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I think about the thought process, right when

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<v Speaker 1>I try to just come just taking out the word irrelevant,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's a bad word, because we can say twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one savage is irrelevant, right, somebody could say that right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's right, so everybody, so we go. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that that word is the right word. But I

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<v Speaker 1>understand the concept of basically saying your fan base will

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<v Speaker 1>be with you. However, you may not be able to

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<v Speaker 1>tap into the new eighteen seventeen, eighteen nine, twenty year old,

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<v Speaker 1>which is such a major part of that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's true. Because if you if you, if

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<v Speaker 1>you got if you tap into the nineteen twenty year

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<v Speaker 1>old at and you do it for two years and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't hold onto them for two for more than

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<v Speaker 1>two years, what does that really mean? What? But but

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<v Speaker 1>but what we're debating here is that I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>irrelevance is a wrong word. I'm just saying that. Looking

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<v Speaker 1>beyond that and having a deeper conversation, we know irrelevance

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<v Speaker 1>is not the right word. But looking beyond that, there

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<v Speaker 1>is certainly something to the idea that a part of

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<v Speaker 1>you said it. A part of staying relevant is knowing

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<v Speaker 1>when your time it to sort of cultivate your base,

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<v Speaker 1>but make space for other people to come through the pipeline.

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<v Speaker 1>That actually is a part of maintaining your relevance. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I was gonna say. With that said, nas

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<v Speaker 1>is one of my favorite artists, and I think this

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<v Speaker 1>artists artists, you know, you know, you know how make

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<v Speaker 1>up words. He's one of my artists. And his album

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<v Speaker 1>is Dope, Go Get the King Disease three and I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't see him dying out in relevance

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<v Speaker 1>and As long as we continue to have our feet

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<v Speaker 1>in this soil and pay attention and listen and here,

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<v Speaker 1>we're never gonna be irrelevant. One savage pay attention man.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can do what NAS has done, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can captivate audience for twenty plus years like NAS has done,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll never be a relative. I'm not gonna always be

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<v Speaker 1>right to make a de Mallory is not gonna always

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<v Speaker 1>be wrong, but we will both always and I mean always,

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