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Speaker 1: Oh Time by Steve Tasper SECHSTI touch downtover time, starting

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Speaker 1: a new week. Good afternoon, and welcome to One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive from Orchard Partner, York. John

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Speaker 1: Murphy Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio right next

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Speaker 1: door in the new air of field where it looks

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Speaker 1: like they're getting busy now with the installation of the

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Speaker 1: new playing fielder. Yeah, yeah, I heard last week. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was asking what those old trenches are at the

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Speaker 1: corners that they were all symmetrical. You know what those are? No,

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Speaker 1: the pylon camps they're putting wires for there. You need that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what stadium we complete without pylon camp? Yes, good afternoon, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I'm John Murphy to Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: We're here until three o'clock. We're able to go to

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Speaker 1: work a big week here with the mini camps starting tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: three day mandatory mini camp. It'd be hard to tell

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Speaker 1: the difference between mandatory Mini camp and the voluntary camps

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Speaker 1: that have come before it because everybody almost have been here.

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Speaker 1: But we'll get onto that tomorrow. Sean McDermot talk to

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Speaker 1: the media tomorrow. I think Sean mcdermot's talking to us

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Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow. I believe he's coming into the

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Speaker 1: studio at some point or sometime this week, so it'll

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Speaker 1: be a big week for us. It was a big

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Speaker 1: weekend for us, both of us with a lot going on,

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Speaker 1: and uh, Steve, I had one of the great weekends

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Speaker 1: of my life. Really became a grandfather. Congratulation to John Murphy, everybody.

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Speaker 1: I didn't do anything really saying hey, you did. It's

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Speaker 1: a lifetime achievement your grandfather. Yeah, way to go, Murphy.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy for Yeah, it was pretty easy from

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Speaker 1: my perspective, but it was really good. Yeah, I'm proud

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Speaker 1: of my son Mark and my daughter in law LEXI

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Speaker 1: absolutely it did. Kormick Murphy now he's two days old

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Speaker 1: today and I saw that, you know, he showed me

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Speaker 1: the pictures of you holding you forget. A newborn is infantessaly.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're like a little piece of fruit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it is so tiny. Yeah, awesome, that's great.

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Speaker 1: It was great. And everybody doing well. Everything. Everybody's fine,

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Speaker 1: It was really something. We're just talking to our friend,

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Speaker 1: cut in the lawn Saturday, I said, did you see me?

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning. So that's June eighth eight. Okay, good, awesome, man,

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Speaker 1: that's that's Cormick. Cormick chaplain Murphy. Yeah, he's a great

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Speaker 1: the best ever? Right, Yeah, it's different, I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 1: But it was great. It was great. And you've got

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Speaker 1: a big weekend, a big family weekend coming up. You've

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Speaker 1: got people coming to town from internationally all over the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're coming in and uh yeah, Mikes. We're celebrating the

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Speaker 1: wedding that you know, I left early in the off season,

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Speaker 1: having the American celebration, the big reception that is the

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Speaker 1: wedding that won't end, yeah, exactly, So yet another event

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Speaker 1: at the venue at Craigburn Golf Club in East Aurora.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do the big event there over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: and all kinds of other ancilliary events accompanying that. So

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Speaker 1: and of course then my the my family's coming into

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Speaker 1: I mean when I showed up here, it was a

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Speaker 1: And uh, my mom and Dado, you know, my mom's

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Speaker 1: It's it's awes should be awesome. But we're fortunate, both

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Speaker 1: so because we've been well, we've been waiting for a

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Speaker 1: Do you want three times? Yes? Three times? And you

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Speaker 1: I'd love the name. We're gonna call him Mac. They

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna be called? What do you want

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Speaker 1: I weird? And I kind of wanted to be organic.

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Speaker 1: I kind of want Kormick to decide what to call me, right,

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Speaker 1: they do, Grandpa, grandfather, whatever, I'll go there we did

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Speaker 1: the exact same thing, right, What are your grand grandchildren?

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Speaker 1: My wife is ra Ra, and I'm I'm dumpa. Excuse

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Speaker 1: me dumpa, and do all three of them from two

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Speaker 1: and then plus your wife's wife, my son, everybody, the

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Speaker 1: now I got no identity other than that. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I go for dumpa. Well I didn't go

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Speaker 1: you know, dumpa. I like it. I can see it.

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Speaker 1: But it is what it is. Other than I don't

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Speaker 1: don't get me started. It's fine. They started out grumpa,

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Speaker 1: I'd like you to meet my grandfather Steve. You know right,

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Speaker 1: that'll be worth Yeah, it's worth waiting for it. Hey, um,

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Speaker 1: meetings going on on the show today. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: with Andy Benoit of MMQB and SI dot com. He's

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Speaker 1: our producer Jay Harris back from vacation. Yes, I hear

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Speaker 1: dad and you take the wife and kids on a vacation, man,

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Speaker 1: that's hard. Labor. Yeah, you're expected to produce fun time. Yeah, funds.

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Speaker 1: support we cover Murph And what way you don't change

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Speaker 1: bing bing bing bing. It's amazing, it's amazing. They run

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Speaker 1: it's a different animal, And I don't think that's a

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Speaker 1: they are there for. You know, line changes okay, what else? Systems? Okay?

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Speaker 1: they can let them do it. What the what's the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's the point of not letting them do it? Because

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Speaker 1: it ruins college basketball? And it would ruin college football

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Speaker 1: if they did it, if guys didn't play college football

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Speaker 1: for a year or two. Doubt that. Oh, I think

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Speaker 1: it would ruin it. Oh how because the good players

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Speaker 1: would leave early and it would be a cycle of

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Speaker 1: one and done in the NFL like there is in

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Speaker 1: the NBA, there wouldn't be any real teams. It would

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Speaker 1: be here's a new set of players were in the

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma uniforms this year. That's how. That's what's happening bas football.

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Speaker 1: The exact football is different. What guys wouldn't leave or

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't matter what he say, different wouldn't matter, It

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Speaker 1: would matter, It wouldn't matter, Sure would yes it? I

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Speaker 1: don't think so. Anyway, The topic of the show today

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Speaker 1: is not that. The topic of the show today is

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Speaker 1: we are going to talk about it. I got an idea. Actually,

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Speaker 1: it was a good idea that came from our crew. Um,

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Speaker 1: Steve's gonna tell you it's his idea. As he tries

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Speaker 1: to snatch credit away. Whenever it's good, I'm gonna snatch.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna step up. You know, I'm gonna. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get the crew out here to take the One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live Twitter poll today talking about obviously Mini Camps starts tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Where not for Mini camp, but this season twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: where will we see the most improvement from Bill's quarterback

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen in twenty nineteen? Now think about it for

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Speaker 1: a minute. But you don't have to need your vote.

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Speaker 1: I know many people will, but think about it. Where

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Speaker 1: will we see the most improvement from Josh? Not what

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Speaker 1: do you need to see? But where will you see it? Um?

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Speaker 1: You can call us up eight oh three h five

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Speaker 1: fifty or toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. You can vote in the Twitter poll

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Speaker 1: at one bills Live. You can send it a tweet.

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Speaker 1: We might read it on the tweet sheet. Where will

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Speaker 1: we see the most improvement from Bill's quarterba Josh Allen?

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Speaker 1: The polls went up for about a half hour, four

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Speaker 1: hundred twenty votes in so far, and it's close thirty

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Speaker 1: six percent of you say decision making is where we'll

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Speaker 1: see the most improvement. Smart, good answer. Love that answer.

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Speaker 1: Thirty three percent say wins. Good answer again, twenty seven

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Speaker 1: percent say passing stats. Maybe that's important to you, three

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Speaker 1: percent of something else in mind. Give us a call

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Speaker 1: eight O three fifty toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. I heard a discussion on

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Speaker 1: a radio show last week, Steve, when they were debating

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Speaker 1: whether would you rather have Josh Allen and the Bills

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Speaker 1: win games this year or the Bills win you know,

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Speaker 1: six games again this year, but Josh Allen has better

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Speaker 1: passing stats, And there were actually people who said, I'd

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Speaker 1: rather have him have a better passing stats and still

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Speaker 1: take six wins. I was ready to punch the radio right.

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Speaker 1: I was shaving at the time, which prevented me from

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Speaker 1: the idea is that they feel like, here's here's the

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Speaker 1: big balance in act. Yeah, you want your you want

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Speaker 1: your quarterback to play well. You want him to be

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Speaker 1: one of those guys because knowing that you got a

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Speaker 1: chance every year, you know he got you got a

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Speaker 1: chance every year. And the question is, would you rather

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback like Philip Rivers with a franchise like

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Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers that never get you know, get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs once in a while and then never get

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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl? Right? Do you want to have

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Speaker 1: a great quarterback that wins some games but you never

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Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl? Or would you rather have

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Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle for one year and have like

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Speaker 1: like the Russell Wilsons and like the Seahawks with Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson in two thousand and twelve Gwen Boom and then

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Speaker 1: and you go and you win one, but then they

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Speaker 1: got back the next year. But would you without that

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Speaker 1: without going back the next year? Is that kind of

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Speaker 1: what you want? You know what I mean? Do you

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Speaker 1: want to have a chance every year and almost never

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Speaker 1: get there? Or would you have like to have that

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Speaker 1: one year where you catch lightning in a bottle and

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Speaker 1: then stink the rest of the time. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're mutually exclusive. In fact, I think if you're winning,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback's probably playing pretty well. Yes, I didn't even

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Speaker 1: know what kind of question that would be. Would you

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Speaker 1: rather have this? Yeah, you're that's the question. Your quarterback

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Speaker 1: gives you a chance every game, and you're gonna play well,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna win your share of games. But if you're

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Speaker 1: like Philip Rivers, and the San Diego Chargers. He's good

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Speaker 1: at quarterbacks. There is in the league. They never win anything? Oh,

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Speaker 1: the playoffs contenders every year? Is that good enough? They

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Speaker 1: need to win a championship. I'm sure they'd love to

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Speaker 1: win a champion It's been seventeen years championship than bro

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Speaker 1: seventeen years. We know that number. Yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's the point. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: got a great quarterback, but you never won anything. It's

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Speaker 1: like Dan Fouts, same thing I want to win. You

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Speaker 1: want to win games or championships. Both they're both along

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Speaker 1: with you give that's the choice? Games or championships. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not a choice because one follows the other. You

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Speaker 1: can't win championships unless you're winning game. For the purpose

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Speaker 1: of the discussion, which is more important. That's the question.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a tough question to answer. Problem with it,

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Speaker 1: you don't even answered it. What's your question? And then

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Speaker 1: we'll get back. Would you rather win games like the

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Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers with Dan Fouts and Philip Rivers or

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Speaker 1: win a championship like say who was it that? Uh,

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Speaker 1: say the Philadelphia Eagles. You won one championship and then

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Speaker 1: now and you can't win it. You can't get back again.

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Speaker 1: I mean you can't. They didn't get back last year

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Speaker 1: one year. Were you here with us last week? Would

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Speaker 1: we talked to from Philly who said that, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was there? Yeah? Howard Eskin? Yeah, Howard he was. That

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Speaker 1: was Monday or Tuesday right, Friday, wasn't it? He was

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Speaker 1: going great? Yeah, yeah, he anticipates are going back to bowl.

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Speaker 1: He might be right. I get it. Well, everybody thinks

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Speaker 1: that it's it's June, Josh Allen. Where were we see

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Speaker 1: the most improvement from Josh Allen? You you you confound me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where. You won't answer the question because

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Speaker 1: it's hard question, not a good it's not a valid question.

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Speaker 1: You can't win championships unless you're winning games. I get it.

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Speaker 1: But you can't win games consistently without a great quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes a quarterback is great, but your team or

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Speaker 1: your organization stinks. It happens sometimes. Yeah, So what is

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Speaker 1: the question you want me to answer? Which would you

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Speaker 1: rather have a great quarterback or a great franchise? Great franchise? So, okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean the you know it's it's I don't know

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Speaker 1: why the question. You know, the question is would you

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Speaker 1: rather have that one championship in a year and then

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Speaker 1: have to go searching for another decade and have to

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Speaker 1: find a quarterback? Why do we have to have that? Why?

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Speaker 1: That's not the way it has to be. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to be that way. But that's the question. That's

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Speaker 1: the that's the great question as to why, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's the great that's the question. We got into this

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Speaker 1: because of the Twitter poll, and there's you said something

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Speaker 1: about the question that was on the radio and people

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Speaker 1: said they would rather have Josh Allen have better stats

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Speaker 1: and still win six games. And that's the other side

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Speaker 1: of that, right, Okay, there that so you you'd rather

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Speaker 1: win championships? I get good, Yeah, yeah, but what would

554
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Speaker 1: you rather be still searching for your quarterback every year? No,

555
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Speaker 1: because you're gonna win championships, because no guarantee to have

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Speaker 1: a good quarterback is no guarantee. You're right, you know

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Speaker 1: your quarterback may be great, but there's no guarantee of championships.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a break, we'll reset, get back to the

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll. It is one bill nothing in the first

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Speaker 1: half of the show, because I've been arguing one bills

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Speaker 1: Live presenting Micha allowed to help from one birlth Drive

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Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio on the back One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bills Drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: for in our one Buffalo Studio. What do you laugh?

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Speaker 1: I'm laughing because it is gonna be one of those

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Speaker 1: days where you We're gonna leave the studient and all

567
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: our friends are gonna say, how can you guys don't

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00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: like each other? Not true? Disagree It's not true. We

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Speaker 1: have great friends. I don't even know we're disagree about.

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Speaker 1: We're disagreeing about. Do you want to be? Do you

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Speaker 1: want to be a team that has a great quarterback

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Speaker 1: that never wins, like San Diego Charger with with Dan

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Speaker 1: Fouts and Philip Rivers, or you want to be like

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They want to stay super Bowl

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Speaker 1: years ago and they can't do anything now. Which would

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Speaker 1: you rather have? I think the premise is false. The

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Speaker 1: Chargers win and it's hypothetical. I will admit more than hypothetical.

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Speaker 1: It's just not a good premise. The Chargers win and

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Speaker 1: get deep into the playoffs. Sometimes got into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Last year they were in the AFC championship not too

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Speaker 1: long ago? Or what's the other team, Eli man Champa Bay,

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Speaker 1: Avery Bay. They won it with Trent was in Trent Trent? No,

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Speaker 1: he run with the Baltimore wasn't It was Chris Johnson

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Speaker 1: or somebody Brad John Brad Johnson. So they wont it

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Speaker 1: way back with Gruden's first year there. Then you know

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Speaker 1: they they've been floundering ever since Jamis Winston the whole

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Speaker 1: nine yards. So that's your franchise, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: They're not in the playoffs. I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: either one of them. I want to have a championship.

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Speaker 1: See that's it's like the lesser of two evils. You're

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Speaker 1: trying to You're right, none neither one of them is

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Speaker 1: that attractive. Right, You got a guy you can watch,

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Speaker 1: it'll be fun, gives you a chance. Philip Rivers, Dan Fouts.

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Speaker 1: Those kind of guys they never win, right, they win

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Speaker 1: and they go to the playoffs consistently. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: I think we were gonna be good again this year.

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Speaker 1: They are, They're gonna be But you know what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. I'm talking about championships. They have chi Eli Manning, right,

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Speaker 1: he's you can say what you want about him as

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Guys, got two yeah, right, So I think

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Speaker 1: we have a calling on the line. Who has a

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00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: thought on this? Jason in West Seneca? Jason, are you there?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, welcome to the show. Yeah, guys, how arey?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on? All right? Um, I kind

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Speaker 1: of kind of ties everything together, and you just said

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Speaker 1: to Eli Manning, I was going to throw him in,

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Speaker 1: but I would kind of to get it to understand

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Speaker 1: a little better. I would definitely take the championship. We

609
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Speaker 1: the Bills even could have jumped in on that discussion.

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Speaker 1: As you know, we had jim As it was amazing,

611
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: brought us wins and wins and wins, but just never

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Speaker 1: got us our championship. Um, you know, Division ones and

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Speaker 1: all of that, of course, but never that's super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So I would definitely want if Joshua take us to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl, we get that and then we're just contenders.

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Speaker 1: And of course we would still be contenders at that point,

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Speaker 1: but then you get your wins like John's asking for,

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Speaker 1: you know, and be in that realm. But um, I

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Speaker 1: definitely think that let's let's go for that lightning in

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Speaker 1: the bottle. Let's get that championship, you know, right, whatever

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Speaker 1: way we can get after that. Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: get it. That gives you a chance. You're not out

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Speaker 1: of the league if you don't do that. But if

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Speaker 1: you if you knew twenty years later that was going

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Speaker 1: to be it, would you rather be a really good

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Speaker 1: team that not quite wins the championship for twenty years

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Speaker 1: or would you rather have one championship and then have

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Speaker 1: to suffer through that? I mean, because that's kind of

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Speaker 1: what the Bills did. They went to four straight Super

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Speaker 1: Bowls and then you know, they struggled. They couldn't get

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs for seventeen years, right, so now there

632
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Speaker 1: was a couple of playoff years post super Bowl trips.

633
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Speaker 1: I get that, But you know that it's kind of

634
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: a tough question, and it is kind of outlandish because

635
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: it if you got a good quarterback and you're winning games,

636
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: you're always going to have a chance to win a championship.

637
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Speaker 1: And there's a million reasons, believe me, I know, I

638
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: know at least four reasons why you never win a championship,

639
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Speaker 1: why you don't win it, and because it's tough to

640
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: win and you can never put it on just the

641
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: quarterback position either. So it's a tough you know, it's

642
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Speaker 1: it's kind of would you rather kind of thing, and

643
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: it's it's a tough one to answer because you always

644
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: feel like this could be the year when you're winning

645
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: games and your quarterback gives you a chance and you

646
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: got the right people around him. The Chargers could have

647
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: felt like that last year. Right. They were good last

648
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: year and have been good for a handful of years now,

649
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: and they look like they're going to be just as

650
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: good this coming year. So they've got reason to think

651
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: they could do it. Except and if you're from outside

652
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: La looking back, and I'm like, you're not gonna do

653
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: it because you never do it kind of thing, right,

654
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's right. A couple of tweets

655
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: on this topic, which is off topic but it has

656
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: a life of its own. Richard Angler tweets and please Murph,

657
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: just answer the question, would would you rather have a

658
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Speaker 1: quarterback that will get you to the championship game three

659
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: out of four years or a franchise quarterback that gets

660
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: you to the playoffs for ten years but can't win

661
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: a game. I don't want either. I want a championship quarterback.

662
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: Championship team. Is that the answer? Is that qualify as

663
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: an answer? Not really. You can't force me into this

664
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: or that because it's a stupid this or that. I

665
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: want either one of those I wanted. Quarterback who wins championships?

666
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: Does that answer the question? And one more from Dan Fournett.

667
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: Man listening to Murfan Tasker right now, argue about having

668
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: a great quarterback versus a great franchise versus winning the

669
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl is insanity? Yes, kind of what it feels like.

670
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: Guys grab and say, what is Steve even talking about?

671
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: I get it? And I don't know our topic of

672
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: the day, which we prefer to focus on about whatever.

673
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Speaker 1: Where will we see the most improvement from quarterback Josh Allen?

674
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: And we have I thought, I don't know how we

675
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: got down this road with that question, but I think

676
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: that's a good question about Josh Allen. Where is the

677
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: most improvement going to come from in the twenty nineteen season?

678
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: Is it in fact winning games? That's one of the

679
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: options we put up there. Is it passing stats? Will

680
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: he have better passing stats? Is it decision making? Or

681
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: is it something else? Right now, with six hundred twenty

682
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Speaker 1: five votes in thirty eight percent of you say it's

683
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: decision making, thirty two percent say wins, twenty seven percent

684
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: say passing stats good, that's going down, three percent say

685
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: something else. Let us know. Call us, We'll try to

686
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: call us. We'll try to get the calls on the air,

687
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: or sending a tweet. We'll read it from the tweet sheet.

688
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: The tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

689
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: the official movers up the Buffalo bills and a tweet

690
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: to get it going from Billers. Biller says, it's wins

691
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: for me simply because we were five hundred in games

692
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Speaker 1: he started and ended. Josh. He's talking about if we

693
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Speaker 1: see improvement in that we have ourselves a quarterback. If

694
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Speaker 1: I went with other it would be presnap adjustments. I

695
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: would love to see him win a play before go.

696
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: That would be a big, big milestone. Interesting thoughts on that, Billers,

697
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: thank you, yeah. And also from Tiffany, And this is

698
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: a good one as well, because we've seen this people

699
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Speaker 1: who watched the team closely intriguing Pole today. She says,

700
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: last season Josh was willing to do almost do most

701
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Speaker 1: anything to win games. I see him giving the same

702
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: effort this season leading the team with his unreal athleticism

703
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: and competitive drive. With key new additions to the offense,

704
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: we should be chasing a playoff spot, and I don't

705
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: think there's any question from what we saw last year

706
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. I've set it a

707
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: hundred times on this show, and I truly believe it.

708
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: There were times last year and most of the time

709
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: when Josh was playing quarterback for the Bill in the

710
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: second half of the season, he was the absolute best

711
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: player on the field for either team. And that's got

712
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: to continue. And he's got to play smarter. He's got

713
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: to have more options. He's got to learn how to

714
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: use the guys around him and let them contribute to

715
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: his competitive fire. He's got to get to that point

716
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: where for him, winning games isn't so much about him

717
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: doing it himself, but using the weapons around him and

718
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: making better decisions and giving his team a chance to win,

719
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Speaker 1: rather than having that mindset of I'm going to win

720
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: the play by myself right now. So if he can

721
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: do that a little more this year, a lot more

722
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: this year, it's going to be a big step forward.

723
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it looks like statistically. The guy

724
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: the guy had like seventy nine or eighty rout and

725
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: nine rushes something less than a hundred rushes for and

726
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: he led the team in rushing for six hundred and

727
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: some odd rut yards. You can't do. Let me say this,

728
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't not only do I not know what Josh's

729
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: success would look like statistically, I don't care what it

730
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: looks like. If he's a fifty three percent passer this

731
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: coming year and the Bills win ten games, I'm good.

732
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm good with Josh, and I see it. There'll be

733
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: room for improvement, no doubt. Hopefully he's made better decisions

734
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: and made different kinds of passes, no doubt. I mean,

735
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: those are kind of the measurements i'd look for. But

736
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: if he's got similar and obviously you need more touchdown

737
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: passes to be successful. Lesson or say, you know, you

738
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: know the hallmarks of good quarterbacking. You can identify those

739
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: by the numbers, But that's not the goal. I guess

740
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: it's my point. The goal is wins, and I don't

741
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: really care what those numbers look like at the end

742
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: of the year. Yeah, when it comes down to it,

743
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't care if one week he does rush for

744
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards and throws for ninety if

745
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: they win, And the next week he could throw for

746
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Speaker 1: three fifty and not run at all and they win.

747
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care what he looks like. He

748
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: doesn't have to look like because of his athleticism. He

749
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: doesn't have to look like the same guy every week. Right,

750
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 1: I'm sure he probably will. At season's end, we're gonna say, Okay,

751
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: that's my guy. He's gonna do this, He're gonna do that,

752
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 1: he does this well, they're gonna use this day. Ball's

753
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: gonna find out what he does more and more, and

754
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: they're gonna with these new weapons because I mean, let's

755
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: face it, he's gonna be in a different, completely different

756
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: situation this year when he's on the field than he

757
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: was last year in every way, shape and form, not

758
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: only from his own mindset, but from all the hard

759
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: work he's done this last offseason, the development he's had,

760
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have better guys around him. He's gonna

761
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: have more time in the pocket, he's gonna have more

762
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: options in the passing game, his running game is gonna

763
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: be upgraded. And you know, you can say what you want,

764
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: how crazy all these things we're taken for granted because

765
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: of the changes they made on the roster. None of

766
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: them may come to fruition, but you gotta think that

767
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: they are. So we're gonna I'm going with that completely

768
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be a completely different guy, and the

769
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: team is going to be completely different as well. And

770
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: what that looks like or you can describe it as

771
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: anything you want, but I'm with you. I don't care

772
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: what it looks like. But I think there's I think

773
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: statistically is where it's going to show up first. Because

774
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: we've seen the guy compete, We've seen the guy get

775
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: better week to week. You know, we've seen all this

776
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: other stuff already, So I think the statistics are going

777
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: to be the thing that turns people's heads. Hey, what

778
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: do you think? Where will we see the most improvement

779
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: from Bill's quarterback? Josh Allen, go back to the phones

780
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: here for a minute. Dan in Amherst on the line

781
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: with us. Dan, go ahead, you're on the air. Welcome

782
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: to the show. Hey guys, um, I think the biggest

783
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: thing is if his decision making gets better, his passing

784
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: statistics are going to get better, and the chances of

785
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: us winning are going to get better. So if he

786
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: can just make better decisions realistically, everything else should fall

787
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: right in line. I agree, Yeah, I agree. I mean

788
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: that we've talked about on the show too, Dan, that

789
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: his decisions making has been one of the things that

790
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: has held his statistics back. He's always tried to make

791
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: the tough throw. He's always tried to make the deep throw.

792
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: He likes pressing the ball down the field because he

793
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: has an enormous arm and he likes to show it

794
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: off and he feels confident in it. If they can

795
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: get him to dial that back and say, listen, this

796
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: is open. Take it. It's gonna be second and one

797
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: instead of third and ten when I try to hit

798
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: that deep corner route that's double covered it. He's just

799
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: gonna stay on the field longer. He's gonna get more opportunity,

800
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to start feeling like that's a

801
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: success because I don't right now. I don't think when

802
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: he takes the easy completion, I don't think he's convinced

803
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: himself that that's a successful play. Yet doesn't feel good enough,

804
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, So I think his

805
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: decision making is going to really really manifest itself in

806
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: great statistics, and I'm I'm right with you. That's where

807
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: I would vote if I were voting in this pole

808
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: decision making. I gotta call on the line from Brad

809
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. I Brad, welcome to the show. You're on

810
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: the air with this. Hey, good afternoon, guys. I would

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Speaker 1: say the biggest improvement we're going to see is his leadership.

812
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not really starting to see that night. I

813
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: saw it last year, from the beginning of the year

814
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: to the end. And I go to the interview with

815
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: Zay what they said about him, how they said he's

816
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: now you know, telling them how he wants them to

817
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 1: run the route routes and whatnot. So so I look

818
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: forward leadership to do I want that necessarily to be

819
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: the biggest improvement. No, but realistically I think that is

820
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest improvement. And Mark, I got

821
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: a question for you. Oh, I want to say congratulations.

822
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: I go on a little later on that. And also

823
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: I live in Pennsylvania, so I listened to you on

824
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: the radio every week, okause you got the bills are

825
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: rarely on TV here. It's usually the Steers or Eagles.

826
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: But anyhow, one guy I'm gonna miss and that's Kelso.

827
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: And I'll use Steve's word. Kelso was epic. You and

828
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: Kelso together, it was. It was great. And I go

829
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: back to that Jags game last year, Um to pause

830
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: there and how Kelso wanted to go down on the

831
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: field during the fight and whatnot. I tell you, and

832
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: these knowledges started on Eric with you a great job,

833
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: but I blow miss Kelsey John. UM, I want to

834
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: ask you this, and this is a question. Would you

835
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: rather watch the Jags play or the Chargers play? Chargers

836
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't have to think about it. Why, Well, well,

837
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: you're okay, but but the Jags needed two years ago

838
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: to the championship game. Yeah, they were a fraud. I

839
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: think they were a fraud that year, to be honest

840
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: with you. They got they got extremely lucky in Pittsburgh

841
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: and didn't you know they were okay against the Patriots

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Speaker 1: in the championship game. But no, I'd rather watch the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: You want to see it, right, That's what winters pretty

844
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Speaker 1: in the game. If you have a good quarterback, that's

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Speaker 1: what you're going to get on the field. The product

846
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Speaker 1: in the feeling is going to be better. Now the

847
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: Chargers don't win, say like the Jags did two years ago,

848
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Speaker 1: But but you still would rather watch the Chargers because

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Speaker 1: of how they played. Um, I'll hang up. Okay, they're

850
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Speaker 1: good too. By the way, I'd watch the Chargers because

851
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Speaker 1: they're good, they're talented. But I see, I got your point.

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Speaker 1: I don't agree. I'm not changing my mind. I would

853
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Speaker 1: always always watch the Chargers, these Chargers in the last

854
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Speaker 1: couple of years as opposed to the Jacksonville Jaguars always. Yeah,

855
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Speaker 1: it's just a personal preference. Mostly, I'm with you. I'm

856
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: it's they got a great quarterback, got a great offense.

857
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Speaker 1: Their defense plays well. Although I don't know if they

858
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Speaker 1: have any star defenders, they they're still very good. Yeah,

859
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Speaker 1: I'm totally with you. It's more fun to watch a

860
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Speaker 1: great quarterback play, yeah, than a great defense. Let's I

861
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: mean some people. I can appreciate great defense, don't get

862
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Speaker 1: me wrong, But it's more fun for me and like

863
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Speaker 1: a lot of people, is to watch a good offense play.

864
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Speaker 1: You're gonna continue this discussion. You are welcome to join

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Speaker 1: us at eight oh three five fifty toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. I feel like

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Speaker 1: we've reasserted control over the show in the last ten minutes. Yeah,

868
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Speaker 1: we were a little out of control. We're a little

869
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Speaker 1: off the road. I feel like we got it back

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Speaker 1: back on the rails again. Hey, we got a couple

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Speaker 1: of visitor you want to thank you for stopping by today,

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Speaker 1: John Sterling and the Son's Elliott and Andrew Sterling. Good

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Speaker 1: taking a break, We're coming back with more. One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve

877
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Speaker 1: Tasker and our one Buffalo Studio. Thanks to the Sterlings

878
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Speaker 1: for stopping by. Good guys. Met him at the Frank

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Speaker 1: Craiks Breakfast a couple of weeks ago, Steve, Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was good, good man. Nice to always have you know,

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Speaker 1: some guests coming. Yeah, that's what happened in that first segment, right,

882
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Speaker 1: you were playing up too Promptu Studio, hudis won't you

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885
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Our question today, where will we see the

886
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: most improvement from Josh Allen this year. We offer a

887
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: couple of suggestions wins, passing, stats, decision making other from

888
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Speaker 1: guy named Jello. He says, since none of us has

889
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: really seen anything from him yet and we are just guessing,

890
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with touchdown to interception ratio. He says stats.

891
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: He is not the sole determiner for wins, and I

892
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: think decision making is something that I, as a fan,

893
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Speaker 1: cannot account for it since I don't know the plays

894
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: or game plans. Well, let me take this apart, so

895
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: even get your takes on this. None of us, right

896
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: from the start, none of us have really seen anything

897
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: from him from him yet, I disagree with that. I

898
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: think we've seen eleven games right from Josh. Yeah, I think, yes,

899
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Speaker 1: he's not counting last year. It's just like this year's improvement,

900
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Speaker 1: I guess. But I love to see improvement in touchdown interception.

901
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Speaker 1: I agree with that he is not the sole determiner

902
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Speaker 1: for wins. Agree with that decision making, I think you

903
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: can tell. I think, look, you don't know what the

904
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: play is, but you know what the goal is, right,

905
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: can't you tell if the guy's making good decisions or not?

906
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: You can see after the fact. Sometimes you can see

907
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: it better from the stands. You can't on the field.

908
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: You see a guy running by himself over here in

909
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Speaker 1: the flat with room to run for the first down,

910
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: and he throws it down the field to a guy

911
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: who's double covered. You know. Yeah, you can see that.

912
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: You don't have to know the play. So yeah, decision making,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna make an enormous difference. It's all the difference

914
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Speaker 1: in the world. You and I both agree that that's

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Speaker 1: where how we would vote in this Yeah, and uh so,

916
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Speaker 1: I yeah, I'm and I have. Josh has shown most

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Speaker 1: people enough at this point to warrant a lot of investment.

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Speaker 1: Guys around him. I mean, he's they're not they're not

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Speaker 1: even thinking about going anywhere else. They got I think

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Speaker 1: they even I think they got total faith in this guy.

921
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Speaker 1: I think he's a he's a smart, young, hard working

922
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Speaker 1: guy who has a ton of ability. And that is

923
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: that's a great recipe right there, those three ingredients. So

924
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Speaker 1: it's yeah, I think I think he's shown enough to

925
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Speaker 1: warrant having the franchise hitch their wagon d him. All Right,

926
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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. We got our number two

927
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Speaker 1: coming up. Andy Benoit's gonna join it from Join us

928
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Speaker 1: from SI dot com. Come on back. One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalada Health from One Bill's Drive. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio Hills Radio Network. Sports update comes from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. Bills players in the final week of

932
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: their offseason workouts, many of them here today for voluntary

933
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: workouts and meetings. The workouts mandatory starting tomorrow. The three

934
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Speaker 1: day mandatory mini camp starts tomorrow runs through Thursday. This

935
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Speaker 1: week the last practice week until training camp, which begins

936
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Speaker 1: in about six weeks. Patriots have a few days off.

937
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Speaker 1: As it turns out, they've canceled the final two days

938
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Speaker 1: of their OTAs that we're scheduled for today and tomorrow.

939
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Speaker 1: They conducted mandatory mini camp last week. Bill Belichick please, obviously,

940
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Speaker 1: with the work they got in, decided to cancel this

941
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Speaker 1: week's OTAs. Panthers quarterback Cam Newton said last month he

942
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Speaker 1: hoped there'd be a time before the start of training

943
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Speaker 1: camp when he'd throw following his rehab from shoulder surgery.

944
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: That time is now. Newton scheduled to throw during all

945
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: quarterback drills. When the Patricks began a three day mandatory

946
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: minicamp tomorrow. Over the weekend, the Texans fired general manager

947
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Speaker 1: Brian Gaine. They hired him just in January of twenty eighteen,

948
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Speaker 1: after he came from Buffalo one year here. After a

949
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Speaker 1: thorough evaluation of their operations, they decided to relieve Brian

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Speaker 1: Gaine of his duties and the Jets have ended their

951
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Speaker 1: search for a new general manager. Over the weekend, they

952
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Speaker 1: hired Eagles Vice president of player Personnel Joe Douglas, an

953
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Speaker 1: ally of new Jets coach Adam Gays. NBA Finals tonight

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Speaker 1: nine o'clock, Golden State comes east to Toronto to play

955
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Speaker 1: the Raptors. The Raptors one win away from the NBA title.

956
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Speaker 1: The Warriors have listed Kevin Durant as questionable for Game

957
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Speaker 1: five tonight. He practiced with his teammates for the first

958
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Speaker 1: time since injuring his right camp on May eighth against

959
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Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets. Head coach Steve Kerr optimistic that Durant

960
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Speaker 1: could play tonight if he went through Sunday's practice without

961
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: any issues. Over the weekend, to say, Vers announced they've

962
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: signed forward Jeff Skinner, forty goalscorer, to an eight year

963
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: contract with the Boston Bruins, now facing the elimination. Last night,

964
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Speaker 1: took Ras came out big. He was exceptional last night,

965
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: twenty eight saves. The Bruins defeated Saint Louis five to

966
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Speaker 1: one to force Game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals

967
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Speaker 1: is on Wednesday. Rask has been outstanding in three games

968
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Speaker 1: in which the Bruins have faced elimination this postseason. And

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Speaker 1: that's the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy and

970
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio, thank you very

971
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Speaker 1: much for joining us to night. Ladies and gentleman got

972
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Speaker 1: a or today, Ladies and Gentleman got a great guest

973
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Speaker 1: on the line, one of our favorites. He joins us

974
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Speaker 1: again from his home out in Idaho. MMQB columnist Sports

975
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Speaker 1: Illustrated NFL writer analyst Andy Benoit on the line with us. Hello, Andy,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve hern Buffalo, thank you again for

977
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: joining us. You're always great to us. We appreciate it. Yeah, Hey, guys,

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00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: how are you. We're doing well and ready for mini

979
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Speaker 1: camp tomorrow. And Steve, what don't you lead up the

980
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: questions here? Steve? I will not. I just want to

981
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: ask you about I know this is mini camp and

982
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: it's the first time all these teams have everybody in

983
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: without no holds barred. Our question here in Buffalo, and

984
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: we're talking about the quarterback Josh Allen and how it's

985
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: gonna look if he does make some steps forward. What

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Speaker 1: do you think it's gonna be. Is it gonna be wins?

987
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: Is it going to be decision making? Is it gonna

988
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: be statistics? What's gonna be the big jump for Josh Allen?

989
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: What will it look like? Well, you hope it's wins. Obviously,

990
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: decision making is word the jump is. I don't want

991
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: to say easiest to make, because it's hard to make

992
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: decisions in the NFL as a young passer sometimes, but

993
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: he certainly has room to grow there and I think

994
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: that's the most adjustable part of a player's game. His

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00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: other area that he needs improvement is accuracy, but I

996
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: don't think that's going to get improved a whole lot.

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00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: Players tend to be what they are as a thrower,

998
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: and he's a strong, armed, up and down thrower. And

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00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: I think the Bills, in an honest moment, would tell

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00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: you they're willing to live with that. They knew that's

1001
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: what they did, but you need that up and down

1002
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: thrower to make the right decisions, and that'll probably help

1003
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: his accuracy in some way making better decisions. He got

1004
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: better at that over the course of last year. He

1005
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: was wide eyed and really looked like he shouldn't have

1006
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: been on the field the first few weeks, and to

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00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: his credit, that's stabilized as as time went along. What

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00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: the Bills can do to help him even more is

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00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: give him half field reads so that you're not having

1010
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: to diagnose the full coverage. You diagnose parts of the

1011
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: coverage and basically throw higher low depending on how that

1012
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 1: stuff plays out. And you can get that with play

1013
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: action passing, which I would imagine it'll be a big

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Speaker 1: part of what they do. The other thing that's interesting, guys,

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Speaker 1: is I think it's harder to read the field against

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00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: zone coverage than man demand because zone you have to

1017
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Speaker 1: read multiple defenders to exploit the zones. Man to man,

1018
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: you're basically throwing to a matchup. But they're going to

1019
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: see a lot of zone because when Alan hurt teams

1020
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: last year as a scrambler, he killed teams down the

1021
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: stretch scrambling, and almost every one of those scrambles came

1022
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Speaker 1: against man demand coverage. You're more prone to scrambles as

1023
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: a defense when you play man. So he'll have to

1024
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: get better reading defenses because he's going to see more

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Speaker 1: zone coverage this year. Some of us, say Andy, believe

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Speaker 1: that the Bills can help out Josh Allen with a

1027
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Speaker 1: different approach to their passing game. May be focusing more

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Speaker 1: on short passes underneath coverage, you know, guys coming out

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Speaker 1: of the backfield, etc. Is he capable of making that

1030
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Speaker 1: work for himself? Do you think you know? I don't

1031
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Speaker 1: think that's the best fit for him. The Panthers tried

1032
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: that same thing with Cam Newton a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: Newton to me, I've told you guys before, I think

1034
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Speaker 1: he and Allen are very very similar players stylistically. The

1035
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Speaker 1: problem with that when you're not a naturally precise passer.

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Speaker 1: It's not just to be accurate, but underneath passing only

1037
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Speaker 1: really benefits you if you've got super precision, because your

1038
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: receivers need to be able to catch the ball on

1039
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Speaker 1: the move without breaking stride, so you get those run

1040
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Speaker 1: after catch yards. Otherwise you're just getting four or five yards,

1041
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Speaker 1: or you're not going to sustain offense. He's not a

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Speaker 1: super precise accuracy passer. Where he's best is with his

1043
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Speaker 1: arm strength, working the sidelines, throwing the far hash throws,

1044
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: reaching angles and parameters of the defense down field that

1045
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: the defense isn't used to being reached at. So I

1046
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: would go with a deep drawback passing game for Allen

1047
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Speaker 1: and use his arm to his advantage because I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's going to be a consistently sharp pink and

1049
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Speaker 1: dunk player. He might be able to throw checkdowns well,

1050
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Speaker 1: which that's what Newton does with Christian McCaffrey, but checkdowns

1051
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: tend to come out of deeper passing concepts. That's very

1052
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: different than like a quick strike passing game, which is

1053
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: what people are describing when they say throw short. You

1054
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: have a podcast up on MMQB about quarterbacks coming up

1055
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: in the upcoming season in twenty nineteen, kind of a

1056
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: forecast for what various quarterbacks might do. You talked about

1057
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: it with Gary Gramling, and I wonder, what would your

1058
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: forecast for the type of twenty nineteen Josh Allen might

1059
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: have this year. I think there's reason for optimism, but

1060
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: he has a lot of growing to do. It helps

1061
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: that the cast around him is better. They have speed

1062
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, which is another reason, by the way,

1063
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: to run a vertical passing game because you can really

1064
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: threaten safeties with some of those receivers they have. They

1065
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: have four out of five spots in the old line

1066
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: have been changed, which they needed to do. It's a

1067
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: more athletic offensive line now, so having a better supporting

1068
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: cast around Alan and then him having now had a

1069
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: full year plus to learn the pro game, I think

1070
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: it's reasonable to think he'll look like a totally different

1071
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: quarterback in some regards, but again, guys, it circles back.

1072
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: He's all I think he'll always be the kind of

1073
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: passer that he is, so you're gonna have to work

1074
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: around that if you're Buffalo. And one thing I would

1075
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: hope they would do more is use him as a

1076
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: weapon in their running game. Designed runs, QB power, read option,

1077
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: death stuff to me needs to be a regular part

1078
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: of their offense because Allan's one of the few qbs.

1079
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: He has that kind of mobility, kind of like back

1080
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: to the Cam Newton thing again. And he's also big

1081
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: enough I think to sustain a few extra hits versus

1082
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 1: what a regular quarterback could sustain and in the same podcast,

1083
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: I think you had Patrick Mahomes as your number one

1084
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: of the top ten quarterbacks for twenty nineteen. Diticipate a

1085
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: similar type of production from Patrick Mahomes this year, Andy,

1086
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: Isn't it a lot to expect? Oh, it's absolutely a

1087
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 1: lot to expect. That was we had a small group

1088
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: doing the voting. I think the other guys had Mahomes.

1089
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: I still have Brady's number one. I did vote Mahomes

1090
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: MVP last year. Those I mean, we're splitting hairs. I'm

1091
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: not saying Patrick Mahomes is anything less than spectacular, because

1092
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: he is. His talent is so off the charts physically,

1093
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: and I think he's a pretty smart player mentally. I

1094
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: think he reads the defense pretty well. What's going to

1095
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: be interesting with him, There's two things. One is, despite

1096
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: his talent, there are about two or three throws every

1097
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: game that he just misses on. And he misses some throws.

1098
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: So if that gets corrected, I don't know how you

1099
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: stop him because he threw for fifty plus touchdowns missing

1100
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: some throws last year, and he might always miss the throws.

1101
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: You know some guys that they're just that's that's the

1102
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: nature of their style. Of play in the years you

1103
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: live with that, no big deal, especially if it's Mahomes

1104
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: and he's gonna make as many as he does. But

1105
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: the other thing is, when you're as gifted as he is,

1106
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: I think it becomes tempting to play off schedule at times.

1107
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: And Aaron Rodgers is a great example. He's the most

1108
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: gifted passer I've ever seen. And the reason Matt Laflour

1109
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: is erin Green Bay and not Mike McCarthy is because

1110
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: Rogers became two off schedule playing in McCarthy's offense. McCarthy's

1111
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: offense didn't demand the quarterback play on schedule, and what

1112
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: you had was a very inconsistent Packers passing game, especially

1113
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: given a talent they had in that passing game. So

1114
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: with Mahomes, it's different. Because Andy Reid's system is very

1115
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: precise in terms of formationing, spacing, route timing. You do

1116
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: have to play on schedule with him, and I think

1117
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: Mahomes did a really nice job last year of doing that.

1118
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: When he knows that he's fast enough and dynamic enough

1119
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: to run around and make a play outside the pocket,

1120
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: most of the time, he didn't use that ability as

1121
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: a crutch. He still operated the offense on schedule, and

1122
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: you have to do that to be a consistent QB

1123
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: in the NFL because everyone around you needs to play

1124
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: that way. It's one thing for the quarterback run around

1125
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: and make a play, but ten other guys have to

1126
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: know what he's doing and be able to do that.

1127
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: And you're not going to get that from snap to snap. Yeah,

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00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: one of the things that happens with these quarterbacks. Pat

1129
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: Mahomes had Kareem Hunt last year, he had Tyreek killed.

1130
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is going to have an entirely new cast

1131
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: of characters around him. You'd think Mahomes is a roster

1132
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: around him is going to change. Tom Brady we've seen

1133
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: for almost two decades do it with people nobody else wanted.

1134
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: So how much who which quarterback? I mean like Josh Allen,

1135
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes, Tom Brady, all these guys. Which one of

1136
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks is going to be helped by the surrounding

1137
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: cast and which one may take a step backwards because

1138
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: of the deterioration of their roster. Well, if Tyreek kills

1139
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: not there in Kansas City, that probably is a different offense.

1140
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: Because coaches will tell you two of man coaches in

1141
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: the NFL say, Tyreek Kills, the most dangerous offensive weapon

1142
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: in the league is the hardest guy in the NFL

1143
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: to play against. Talking non quarterbacks now, so that changes

1144
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: their offense. They drafted me Cole Hardy, who is a

1145
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: speedster like Hill, certainly doesn't mean he'll beat Tyreek Hill.

1146
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: But that brings us to the next part of the discussion.

1147
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: This gets into the Tom Brady stuff. It's not just

1148
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: the weapons you have around him, it's where you place

1149
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: those weapons. So James White, for example, is probably the

1150
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: league fifteenth or twentieth best running back overall, but he

1151
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: can be as hard as anyone in the NFL to

1152
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: deal with because of where they line him up and

1153
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: the matchups he gets based on where he lines up,

1154
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 1: and Brady understands how to exploit all that. Julian Edelman's

1155
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: made his living doing that as well. Those receivers James

1156
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: White plays outside, Edelwyn plays inside. You get the defense

1157
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: all mixed matched up because of guys in different locations.

1158
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: You can do that. Tyreek Hill was really valuable in

1159
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: Kansas City in part because whenever they went to a

1160
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: three receiver set, he was almost always the inside. Most receiver,

1161
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: So he basically lined up where a tight end would

1162
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: line up, and he runs these deep routes and it's

1163
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: either corners playing out a position covering him, or it's

1164
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: a linebacker or safety on him. If it's his own coverage,

1165
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: that really helps your offense a lot. There's no linebacker

1166
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: or safety that has a prayer against the guy like

1167
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. Well, they're not going to have a prayer

1168
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: against Nicole Hardman either, because they're not gonna be as

1169
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: fast as Hardman. So it's a matter of how you

1170
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: use your guys as much as anything. That's why New

1171
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: England's always been so good, and they signed kind of

1172
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: unconventional players, second rate receivers a lot of the time,

1173
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: not always, but a lot of the time, and they

1174
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: get great mileage out of those guys because, for example,

1175
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: like I got like Chris Hogan, He's not Jerry Rice,

1176
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: But if Chris Hogan's facing your number two linebacker, he's

1177
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: gonna look like Jerry Wright. So that's what the Patriots

1178
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: are able to do. And that's why it gets back

1179
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: to scheming and having a quarterback that understands how to

1180
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: run your scheme on line with the Andy Benoi Countess

1181
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: for MMQB Sports Illustrated NFL writer analysts Andy, I came

1182
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: a really couple of interesting things that you're written, and

1183
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: really interesting things in the last week or two. One

1184
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: of them the NFL's all over thirty team for the

1185
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: upcoming season, and you did you crunch numbers. It's about

1186
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: seven players per team our thirty years or older, about

1187
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five around the league, and the

1188
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: percentage of them who made it to your all over

1189
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: thirty team is very low. But you point out, if

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00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: you're going to be thirty years old and playing in

1191
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: the NFL, chances are you're a really good player already. Right,

1192
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: That's what I discovered. It makes sense now that you

1193
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: once we see it's like, oh, yeah, of course that's obvious.

1194
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: But I think there were two hundred and twenty five

1195
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: guys roughly in the NFL who are over thirty years old,

1196
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: and about ninety of them were clear stars, guys that

1197
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: would certainly be in contention for an all over thirty team.

1198
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: So if you do make it that long, you probably

1199
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: made it that long because you're better and everybody else.

1200
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: The other thing that's interesting, though, is there were all

1201
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: kinds of guys that choose from for the all over

1202
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: thirty team. In fact, I think I'm going to make

1203
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: an all under thirty team just to see if if

1204
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: they all over thirty team is better, and I suspect

1205
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: it will be. But if you were to make it

1206
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: an all over thirty two team, it looks very different.

1207
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: There are not a lot of guys over thirty two

1208
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: that are super high levels still. So it suggested to

1209
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: me if you get the thirty thirty one, that's where

1210
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: you really start to go downhill because they're just weren't

1211
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: many thirty two plus year olders to choose from, And

1212
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: didn't you find a lot of quarterbacks to dominate the

1213
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: ranks of the players thirty year older? Right? Oh, yeah, absolutely,

1214
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: And that's that quarterback position has changed in the last

1215
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: few years. I think guys for when they take better

1216
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: care of their bodies. But for two of the NFL

1217
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: is a different kind of game than it was back

1218
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: when Steve was playing. For example, it's not a lot

1219
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: of deep, dropback, seven step downfield throws anymore, which take

1220
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: arm straights, which take the ability to get hit in

1221
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: the pocket. What teams do now is they line up

1222
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: and spread out and reveal the defense before the snap,

1223
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: and they dink and dunk it and get you that way,

1224
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: while when you play it that way, you're asking less

1225
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: of the quarterback's arm and more of the quarterback's brain

1226
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: because he's often beating the defense just with how he

1227
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: reads it before the snap. That would favor a guy

1228
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 1: who's much older versus a guy who's younger. You also

1229
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: had one another article that I found really intriguing, the

1230
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: all slower than average team, the guys with the bad

1231
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: forty times and the all pros, the all what I

1232
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: can't remember exactly how it was, the all slow team,

1233
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: that's what it was. And Yeah, that to me was

1234
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: hilarious because so much we spend all offseason talking about

1235
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: guys in their forty times leading up to the draft

1236
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: into the combine. We watch guys run, we see how

1237
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: they their time at their pro day compared to their

1238
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: time at the combine, and then that's the last forty

1239
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: any of these guys ever run. Exactly. Yeah, nobody, that's

1240
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: a great point. Nobody ever asks what's your forty time

1241
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: after you've spent your rookie season in the NFL. We

1242
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: don't even think about it. Anymore. And I bet you

1243
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys that have grade forty times

1244
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: at the combine would not have grade forty times once

1245
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: they've been in the league because they're not training for

1246
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: the forty years. This whole forty or dash things the

1247
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,959
Speaker 1: most ridiculous thing in the NFL. It has absolutely nothing

1248
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: to do with football. Guys waste their offseason as rookies

1249
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: preparing for what as a track exercise and not actually

1250
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: practice at football, which is why a lot of coaches

1251
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: are camp seeing rookie mini camps now. Because the players

1252
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: come in having been tracked athletes all offseason. They're not

1253
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: in the kind of shape that even practice football as

1254
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: a team. And when you're running your forty you're not

1255
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: only you're not wearing your uniform, you have no pads on,

1256
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: which makes it the different run completely. You're starting and

1257
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: stopping in a confined area, straight line speed, you're not

1258
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: thinking about anything, you're not running a play, you're not

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Speaker 1: running away from anyone or at anyone. It's a completely arbitrary,

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Speaker 1: randomized exercise that reveals, I think, next to nothing in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. So I was not surprised at all that

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01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: the all slow team looks like it's even better than

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Speaker 1: last year's All Pro team in some way, and even

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Speaker 1: from SI dot Com on the line of us a

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Speaker 1: couple of other things that you've written about, Andy, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like competition committee's going to get together again and

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Speaker 1: look at rules, and Steph and I are going to

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01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: talk about it later, including the past interference rule for

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Speaker 1: instant replay, But overtime was up for discussion. The Chiefs

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01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: had an overtime proposal that didn't go anywhere. But you've

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Speaker 1: got a really interesting plan for NFL overtime. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to characterize it at all because you could be

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Speaker 1: bordering on genius here, Andy, Seriously, thank you, I think

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Speaker 1: why you spelling out for our listeners if you would please. Well, So,

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Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out, okay, how do we give

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Speaker 1: equal possession opportunities to teams in overtime and it's hard

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Speaker 1: to do and in the regular season, with overtime's only

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Speaker 1: ten minutes long, if each team's guaranteed a full possession

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Speaker 1: and those are touchdown drives, you're probably getting tie games

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Speaker 1: a lot of the time, or more of the time

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Speaker 1: than you would. So what I'm thinking is, instead of

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Speaker 1: just guaranteeing possession. Let's make possession based on something that

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Speaker 1: happened within the game. We currently based overtime possession on

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Speaker 1: a coin toss, which I'm sure just team to be

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Speaker 1: because that's how we decide possession at the front of

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Speaker 1: a game, and so nobody's thought anymore about it. But

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Speaker 1: in overtime that possession means something different. In front of

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Speaker 1: the game, each team gets possession at some point to

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Speaker 1: begin the half, it's just a matter of when, and

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Speaker 1: overtime that first possession can mean everything. So I think

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Speaker 1: we ought to base on something that happened within the game,

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Speaker 1: and the thing that seemed both just to me would

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01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: be basing it on total yards accumulated. So all your

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01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: return yards, all your offensive yards, subtract your penalty yards.

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Speaker 1: Whichever team move the ball the most in the game

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Speaker 1: gets first possession in overtime. Because what you're doing then is,

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Speaker 1: for one, that's at least that pertains to football, it's

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Speaker 1: not just a fifty fifty coin toss, but two is

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Speaker 1: I think it'll make teams play a little more seriously

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Speaker 1: throughout the game. Think about a third down and twenty

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01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: situation now in the league, and how often we see

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01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: the defense just back up. They concede fifteen yards, the

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01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: offense takes it and they're glad to punt, and it's

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01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: this game of field position, or we're kneeling down at

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01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: the end of the first half and just giving snaps away.

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01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: If total yards meant something and maybe decided overtime possession,

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01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: those plays that are meaningless now would take on some

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01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: kind of meaning. At least the defense would feel like

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01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: they might have to defend it a little tighter. Offense

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01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: goes for this just a little more. It's not a

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01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: big deal, but it's a little bit more strategy involved.

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Speaker 1: And again we're give all we're giving up as a

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Speaker 1: coin toss. Now. I don't think anyone holds the coin

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Speaker 1: toss and overtime fear to their hearts. Yeah, and there's

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01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: a lot to like about this, and your your your

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01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: plan says that all the other overtime rules maintain right

1317
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to possess unless there's a first possession touchdown, that

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01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: sort of thing. All those are still the same. Yeah, absolute, Yeah,

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01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: keep overtime as it is. It's it's it's fine as

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01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: it is. Just make the possession the first possession based

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01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: on some sort of merit as opposed to a coin flip,

1322
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: which I think is genius. You could, well, let's let's

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01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: look at the other side of the coin toss. Then

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Speaker 1: why don't you give it to the best defense and

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01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: let their the worst offense have it so that the

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01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: best offense is guaranteed a possession if they don't give

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01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: up a touchdown. So you know what I'm saying, so

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Speaker 1: uh like in this last year because defense matters, So

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01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: why not give it? Yeah? Why not give when I

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01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: reward the best defense instead of the best offense. Well,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with you. So that's why I'm thinking

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01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: if we went by if we just said which team

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01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: has the most total net yards, and that rewards a

1334
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: defense because if your defense kept the opponent from gaining yards,

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01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: then you're likelier to have the total net yards. And

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Speaker 1: the other thing is is we'd want to keep return

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01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: yards in there because what I did, go back and

1338
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: look of all the teams in overtime, how many times

1339
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: would possession have changed if a team hadn't, say, intercepted

1340
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: a ball and ran it back fift the yards for

1341
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: a touchdown, which doesn't count for your total yardage but

1342
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: prevents your offense from getting a chance the yardage. So

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01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: if we just any think of it this way, if

1344
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: we just tracked anytime a guy on your team has

1345
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands and is running with it,

1346
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: how many yards does he get, whether he's on offense

1347
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: or in the return game, etc. That's going to cover

1348
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: all phases of offense, deepen special teams, and it will

1349
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: tell you at least who moved the ball the most

1350
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: when they possessed the ball. And let's give it to

1351
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: the yardage on that love it. Yeah, that's a great

1352
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: idea because it does net yardage is a huge thing

1353
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: because your return yardage on defense as well counts towards it,

1354
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: your return yardage on on special teams. It rewards your

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01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: coverage teams, your return teams. It's a great idea. One

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01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: more thing we ought to send it. Do you think

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01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: that if we sent it to the Commissioner's office or

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01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: the competence, do you think they've looked at it at all? No.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Andy and I was reading this today.

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01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: You've seen this. The competition community is going to meet

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01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: again with owners this week, six weeks before preseason. They're

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01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: going to meet again to talk about the pass interference

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Speaker 1: replay review. Clearly things are in flux, so why not

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01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: you're a rule too. But no, not to be serious,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe. I can't believe they still don't have

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01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: that rule set with the preseason schedule to start in

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01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: about a month and a half, I think this is ridiculous. Now,

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01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: are you talking about the past interference? Yeah, yeah, Well

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Speaker 1: what I heard happened there was that what the coach

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01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: has voted on for the reviewable thing was not what

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Speaker 1: got presented to the league. So my guess is that's

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Speaker 1: the complication. It's it's too late for complications, isn't it.

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01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: It's too late to everyone. Absolutely, yeah, they should have

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01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: gotten it right by now. But I think what the

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01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: issue is. I think coaches want this play reviewable, but

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01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,919
Speaker 1: they don't want to be responsible for challenging it because

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01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: that's just gonna for one, that will lead to a

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01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: lot of superfluous challenges because coaches will say, well, we

1379
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: have nothing to lose in the final three minutes of

1380
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: the game here, and so I think teams would start

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01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: really using all of their challenges, which does not happen now. Challenges. Now,

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01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: I think a coach uses point seven challenges a game,

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01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: and already those feel like they're disrupting the flow of

1384
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: the game. So imagine if point seven jumped to two challenges,

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01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: that's almost a threefold increase. That's the That's the issue

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01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: coaches have is that I think they don't want to

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01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: be the ones that have to be cited challenge. They

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Speaker 1: want that pass interference to be judged just like the

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Speaker 1: same way like an illegal hit is judged. As a

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Speaker 1: guy to wrap up in the boothal, flag down or

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01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: whistle down if they see an illegal hit and a

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01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: fifteen yard pilty can be as set. I think they

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01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: want to be something like that. How close are we

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01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: just having the sky judge? Yeah, we should be like

1395
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: five minutes from that because all this stuff could be

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01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: taken care of right away. But we have a sponsorship

1397
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: for the replay reviews, and you know, the correct commercial

1398
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: breaks factor in. In a perfect sane world, though, none

1399
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: of this stuff would be judged by on field officials

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01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: other than just the easiest it's easy and obvious stuff,

1401
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: and they put their best referee up in the booth

1402
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: and have him just whistle it down from the booth.

1403
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: They could streamline that and have all those calls made

1404
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: in the same amount of time that it takes to

1405
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: make calls now, probably be even faster because the ref

1406
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: on the peels not having to run from sideline to sideline.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, Andy, You're writing, always on point, always interesting.

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Speaker 1: We thank you for spending a few minutes with U

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Speaker 1: year today and hope we get a chance to talk

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01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: again soon sometime. Thank you, all right, Thanks guys. Andy

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Speaker 1: Benoy Sports Illustrated NFL writer analysts MMQB columnist. I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you his stuff. We went through it this morning, the

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Speaker 1: stuff that he's written recently, and like, oh I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about that. Oh, I'll talk about that. Oh

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that. Right, Lots of fun

1416
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: stuff too, and and it's you can slice and dice

1417
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: stuff a lot, but that all slows team is awesome.

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01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: The over thirty team is a lot of fun to

1419
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: think about because you know, we know that, you know,

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01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: guys are good deep into their career and if they

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01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: get to that point they are really good. They're not

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01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: around if they're net game, are they are they still good?

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01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: You know? That's that's a great question. And that metric

1424
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 1: you found about thirty two kind of being a dividing line. Yeah,

1425
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: guys get to be thirty two and all of a

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01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: sudden they're not as productive that. I'd like to see

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Speaker 1: more research on that. Thirty ten, why thirty two? Great?

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Speaker 1: Thank you for Andy Butnoy for joining us today speaking

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Speaker 1: and he had a lot to say about quarterbacks, Josh Allen.

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01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: What do you got to say about Josh Allen? Where

1431
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: will we see in the most improvement from the Bills

1432
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: quarterback in twenty nineteen? Then is our twitter poll. We're

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01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: gonna get back to the poll in a moment. We

1434
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: will read some of your tweets from the tweet sheet.

1435
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: Maybe take your call or two when we return. Where

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01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: will you see the most improvement from Josh Allen in

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01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen? That's what we're talking about today. Give us

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Speaker 1: a call eight oh three five fifty or twel three

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Steve and

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Speaker 1: I coming back One Bill's Live presented by Kalada Health

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01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome

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01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. Steve,

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01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: don't let that chair get that one almost got away? Yeah,

1444
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: that one team jumps up on his chair and it

1445
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: scoots off, sut it off across the room. Jim Kelly,

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01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: Andre Reed jerseys that it almost made it that far back. Yeah, almost.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. John Murphy was deep task here.

1448
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: We got a guest. We're making up the show as

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01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: we go along with It's a good edition. Jerry Butler,

1450
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: one of the all time Buffalo bill is going to

1451
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: join us at two o'clock. Jerry is in Archer Park today.

1452
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: He speaking to rookies and we'll talk to them about that.

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01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: They bring in a lot of alums and a lot

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01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: of players really, and I mean we had what's his

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01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: name last week? Were you here, Steve Smith two weeks ago?

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Speaker 1: I wasn't out. Yeah, Jerry Butler coming in. Uh, I'm

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01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 1: sure it was a teammate of mine for like the

1458
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: last three games of his career here or something like that.

1459
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 1: When he broke his leg right in the end zone.

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01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: It was. It was the second home game of my

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01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo career. We had played Pittsburgh early and when we

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01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: went to on the road to New England, and I

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01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 1: remember we came back and played in Miami and Jerry

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01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: caught a touchdown and that was his last catch as

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01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: a bill. It ended up being his last former first

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01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: round pick. He could fly, came out of Clemson. Not

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Speaker 1: only could he fly, he could catch. He was a

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01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: great receiver, a great receiver, and you're right there. Broken

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01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: link sort of ended it all for him. He was

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01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: He was almost as good as it got back then

1471
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: as far as an NFL receiver. I had a guy

1472
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: tell me he was uncoverable. I believe it. That's how

1473
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: good he was. And he was just he was fast

1474
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: and ended up he was coaching for a while. He

1475
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: coached a little bit for the Cleveland Brown was in

1476
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: their player Engagement UM department. UM was in. Has been

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01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 1: around Buffalo as a Buffalo guy now I think right,

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01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean, I mean he's considered show

1479
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: one of our guys, right, great player. He's coming on

1480
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: the show too much. They were looking forward to that.

1481
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: Love Jerry Butler one of the all time greats. Um

1482
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: So our Twitter point today deals with Josh Allen. Most

1483
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: of our Twitter polls to deal with quarterbacks where we're

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01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 1: going to see the most improvement. The reason this came

1485
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: up is because of a segment on Good Morning Football

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01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: Today this morning when they talked about who will be

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01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: the most improved second year player in the NFL and

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01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: Nick Burlison from NFL Network and an interesting pick. Listen

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01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: to what he said when he was asked the question

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01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: who would be the most improved second year player in

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01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: the NFL this year? He says, Bill's quarterback Josh Allen.

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01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: For me, I feel like we're going to see that

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01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: leap from his passing perspective. I mean sitting back, being

1494
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: a traditional quarterback, dropping back and doing his thing. I

1495
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: know he's athletic, and I hope I don't see as

1496
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: much running this upcoming season. And what they did is

1497
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: they added pieces that's going to make him more comfortable

1498
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: a running back room. They got all the OG sitting

1499
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: behind them, so he's gonna be able to hand it

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01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 1: off to absolute legends of this era. And then I

1501
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: feel like another guy that's gonna be big for him,

1502
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: as Cole Beasley. I feel like Cole Beasley could be

1503
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: his Julian Edelman. See how that he can count on.

1504
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: I saw Cold Beasley talking this past weekend and he said,

1505
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm probably annoying Josh Allen right now, which means he's

1506
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: asking Josh Allen a thousand questions, which means as a

1507
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: veteran wide receiver because I've been that position before. The

1508
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: reasons he's asking questions because he wants Josh Allen to

1509
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: answer out loud, and they could be thinking on the

1510
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: same page. And if they're working on that right now

1511
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: this offseason, I guarantee once Josh drops back and last

1512
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: year last season, when he had that moment where he

1513
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: thought run, he doesn't have to run anymore. He can

1514
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: have that safety receiver that he can constantly go to,

1515
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 1: almost like a security blanket. Nied Burleson from NFL Network.

1516
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: I believe he's CBS as well, isn't he Yes, he's

1517
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: on the studio show. Yeah pretty fell on CBS. Yeah,

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01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: picks Josh Allen as his candidate for the most improved

1519
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 1: player in twenty nineteen. We were just talking as we

1520
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: went to the last break, and you know, in response

1521
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: to what some of the things Andy Benoit was saying.

1522
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: And he's very good and he's very smart, a great writer.

1523
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: He's not totally sold on Josh Allen, which is fine.

1524
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 1: You and I were talking going during the break about

1525
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 1: how there are national people and local people who are

1526
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: not and that's fine, right, not sold totally on Josh.

1527
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 1: He hasn't done and that was face. He hasn't done

1528
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 1: enough to say they have them say you know what,

1529
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 1: I was wrong about him? You know what I mean?

1530
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: When they start winning games and he starts doing some

1531
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 1: things we've seen him do on a regular basis, cuts

1532
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 1: out and cuts out mistakes or whatever, the tip interceptions,

1533
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call how it looks. When the

1534
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: Bills starts to play better and Josh gets more of

1535
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: his full potential, it's gonna be a while before people

1536
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: are gonna start saying, wow, I was wrong about him,

1537
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: because you and I have never bought into I say never,

1538
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: but we don't buy into the fact that he's an

1539
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: inaccurate quarterback. You here that every single time we have

1540
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: a national reporter on the simple fact of the matter is,

1541
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 1: and even the Bills guys will tell you this, It's

1542
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: not about his accuracy, it's about his decision making. He

1543
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: tries to make too tough of throws last year when

1544
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: he didn't do that. He completed sixty five and a

1545
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: half percent of his passes in Week seventeen against the

1546
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,560
Speaker 1: Dolphins and hung forty two points on him, ran for

1547
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, through for three I take that every week, right,

1548
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,560
Speaker 1: sixty five and a half percent throwing for three and

1549
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: running for two. Yeah, we'll take that. That's where that's

1550
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: where the upper end is. And he did it in

1551
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: his last game and we'll see if it continues, if

1552
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: that's something he's going to remember to do this coming

1553
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: up this year, and we'll see if he can get

1554
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: it done. But that's where you I think you and

1555
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: I both sit in that camp of he's not inaccurate.

1556
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: He just needs a bank better decide think the offense

1557
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 1: is going to change to his benefit too. But our

1558
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: Twitter poll today deals with Josh Allen and it was

1559
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: it was basically generated by what Nate Burlison said, the

1560
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,719
Speaker 1: question where will we see the most improvement from Josh

1561
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 1: Allen in twenty nineteen? That's Twitter pole question. You can

1562
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: dial us up let us know what you think at

1563
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 1: eight O three oh five fifty or from outside Buffalo

1564
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1565
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: You can send in a tweet for the tweet sheet,

1566
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: or you can vote on the Twitter poll. We got

1567
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: about just a little bit less than a thousand votes

1568
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: in so far, and thirty nine percent of you say

1569
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: he will improve the most in decision making. Thirty three

1570
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 1: percent say wins will be the biggest improvement for Josh Allen,

1571
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: twenty six percent say passing stats, three percent of something

1572
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: else in mind. What do you have in mind? Give

1573
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: us a call eight O three five fifty toll free

1574
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight fifty two five fifty. The tweet

1575
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: sheet are still tweet sheet number one. We are okay,

1576
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: and it's brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

1577
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: Official Movers or the Buffalo Bills the tweet sheet from

1578
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, Wandering Jack says, I hope it's wins

1579
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: after all, just win, baby, But I bet the game

1580
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: slows down for him. With better and with better weapons

1581
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: and line play to give him time, he will have

1582
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: much better passing numbers. I'm hoping for at least thirty

1583
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: two hundred yards and twenty five touchdowns, similar to money

1584
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: Mitch in his sophomore seven Trabisky. I kind of I

1585
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 1: don't know about those exact numbers, Wandering Jack, but I'm

1586
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 1: kind of in agreement that you know, with the better

1587
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 1: players around him, he'll have better he'll have better protection,

1588
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: he'll have more weapons than he had last year, and

1589
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 1: I think he'll have better passing numbers. I think that

1590
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 1: follows with what I anticipate to see from Josh Allen.

1591
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: A better decision making two will allow him to have

1592
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: better passing numbers. That would not be better stats. Would

1593
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: not be my choice in this Twitter poll. Yeah, I

1594
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 1: mean better stats will be a product of better decision making,

1595
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: and so it goes right. I mean that's the that's

1596
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: the thought lawgic. But then again, you could have better staff.

1597
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: I mean, he could rush for fifteen hundred yards next

1598
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: year and you wouldn't be happy with that, right, But

1599
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: all this, whatever we talk about, is gonna be mostly

1600
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: evaluated on the fact that the team's got to win

1601
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: more games than they did a year ago. And that's

1602
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: so they're all a little bit linked, there's no question

1603
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: about it. But we're all talking about the same thing.

1604
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 1: What's it gonna look like if Josh Allen improves and

1605
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: from Adam he tweets this at us this year outside

1606
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: some of the late game hero ball, I'd like to

1607
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: see Allan manage the game with that defense and an

1608
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: improved running game. Hopefully he doesn't have to do too much,

1609
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: and last year that was a problem, right, You did have.

1610
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: He felt like he had to win the game by himself.

1611
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: His defense was playing good, but they were never under

1612
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: They never played against an offense that was absolutely playing

1613
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: frantically to get back in the game. They never had

1614
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 1: a chance to get a lot of turnovers. So it

1615
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: was kind of like, yeah, we'll stop him, but can

1616
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: you take advantage of it? And the Bill's offense couldn't

1617
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,560
Speaker 1: do that a lot last year and it fell on

1618
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's shoulders. Take a call here Tom in West Seneca. Hello,

1619
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: time you're on the air. This go ahead, Jid Steve,

1620
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I'm a big Josh Allen fan

1621
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 1: and I really believe that this is going to be

1622
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: his breakout. You're I mean, you have an improved defensive

1623
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: line ready, and we're going to see some new faces

1624
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,759
Speaker 1: on receiving and I think with that improved defensive line,

1625
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna get the running game will get going, and

1626
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: he'll give him more time than that being said, Josh

1627
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: Allen is a smart guy. If he did his homework

1628
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: in the offseason, he's going to come back and be

1629
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 1: able to read. Defense is better. Dad. In conjunction with

1630
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: the improved defensive line, I think we're going to see

1631
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: Josh Allen come into his own. Like I said, I'm

1632
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 1: a big Josh Allen fan, but also i'd like dad

1633
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 1: to your guest, Andy Benoy. Yeah, that guy knows what

1634
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: he's talking about. And that's pretty much a guys. Thanks,

1635
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: I have a great day. Thanks Sam. I agree with you, Andy.

1636
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: I don't agree with everything Andy Benoy says, but I

1637
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: think he knows. He speaks with reason and thought. Thought

1638
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 1: goes in it, right, thought goes into what he writes,

1639
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: which is what makes his writing self compelling. And I

1640
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: love having him on the show because he's so reasonable.

1641
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: I like him. I like him because he does that

1642
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: Monday morning quarterback stuff. And you know, those guys are

1643
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 1: all over the map on football right there. They're talking

1644
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: about rule changes, coaching trends, players ages. He had, you know,

1645
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: the all all this and that team that he's gone.

1646
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: So he thinks a lot about it. And the thing

1647
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 1: that intrigued me most and the thing that I'm going

1648
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 1: to think about after this today is that fact his

1649
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: overtime rule idea was really good. Yeah, total net yards

1650
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: brings all three phases into play. Whoever wins that gets

1651
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: gets the ball in overtime. Yeah, and the same and

1652
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: the same rules apply. If they score a touchdown, then

1653
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,560
Speaker 1: they you know, they they they win if they have

1654
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: if they settled for a field goal, then the other

1655
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: team gets a chance to possess. I mean, think about

1656
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: the Whiney Kansas City Chiefs motivation. No seriously for changing

1657
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: over time rule. We didn't get the ball, well, you

1658
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: didn't play defense, but you know what the rules were.

1659
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: You knew the rules. Right now, you two take away

1660
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: the Whiney Kansas City Chiefs and anybody else's argument. We

1661
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: didn't get the ball, well, but you had a chance.

1662
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 1: If you would have played better during the course of

1663
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: the game, you would have it. You would have had

1664
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 1: the ball, you would add it first, would and you

1665
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: would have got an opportunity to possess if you didn't

1666
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: get it first. But I like that. I really like

1667
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: when Andy but Knight said, you know, point flip is

1668
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: totally arbitrary, right, It's the definition of arbitrary in this

1669
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 1: right exactly. And if you take that out and all

1670
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: of a sudden, what you did in the prior sixty

1671
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: minutes of football matters as far as whether you get

1672
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: the ball first or not. I think It solves every

1673
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: complaint about overtime, I really do. And also it gives

1674
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,560
Speaker 1: your defense a chance to contribute to that. Then it

1675
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 1: cannot only hold the other team down, but they can

1676
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: also add to it by return yardage and that kind

1677
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,759
Speaker 1: of thing. Your special teams can help. Good kick coverage

1678
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 1: keeps them off the board with yardage, and a good

1679
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,560
Speaker 1: return game does give you yardage. It gives you a

1680
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,839
Speaker 1: chance to contribute in all three phases to what counts

1681
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 1: in overtime possession. Yeah, and all it almost for me.

1682
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 1: It don't go back the other way. It's just whoever

1683
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 1: gets it first, scores first, wins period, field goal or otherwise,

1684
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: and that would be that would make the game get

1685
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: over faster, and it'd be just as fair. Yeah. I

1686
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 1: don't want to lose the opportunity to possess because I

1687
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: think and the reason why, the main reason why with

1688
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 1: the it matters, the increased proficiency of kickers with long

1689
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 1: range kicks means you get the ball, maybe you get

1690
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 1: a pretty decent return, and you're lining up for a

1691
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: fifty four yard field goal that you make and you

1692
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: win the game and overtime. Look, that's not arbitrary, but

1693
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: it's not really decisive. If you get the opportunity to

1694
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: possess after your opponent kicks a fifty four yard field goal, Okay,

1695
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: now you got your chance. Do you respond to that?

1696
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 1: Do you tie it up or win it? So I

1697
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to lose that, the opportunity to possess that

1698
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 1: each team gets, I really wouldn't hear what I say,

1699
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: So don't give up a big return. Well, right, don't

1700
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 1: lose is basically or don't lose. Yeah, you're right, But

1701
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm totally with you. I think that it makes a

1702
01:21:54,360 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: lot of logical sense to use what happened in the

1703
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: first sixty minutes to determine what happens from the rest

1704
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,839
Speaker 1: of the way out and in overtime. As far as possession,

1705
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 1: you're not You're not giving these guys any kind of

1706
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: added advantage except for the fact that they can. They

1707
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: It's like they win the coin flip, right, And I

1708
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: guess they can still have the choice to put their

1709
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: defense out there or take their off, have their offense

1710
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: take the field, whichever you want. But I think it's

1711
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: a great idea. Back to Josh, where do we see

1712
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: the most improvement on the tweet sheet? This is interesting

1713
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: from Brian Rossig. Now he goes with stats passing stats.

1714
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 1: It should he writes, it should be easy to improve

1715
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 1: from the numbers last year with one a full season,

1716
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: two full sea full off season is number one, full

1717
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: off season with number one reps. Three improvements around him

1718
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: including Morse, Mitch Moore's in the run game four, rocket

1719
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: arm five, chemistry, Zay Foster six, Dable, Dorsey Palmer seven,

1720
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: year two assistant playbook eight he's smart. Yeah, I just

1721
01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 1: don't again what Josh Allen stand look like next year

1722
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: after twenty nineteen, I'll look at him, I'll think about him.

1723
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have that much interest in him.

1724
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: There's plenty of there's plenty of things to be optimistic

1725
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 1: about all those things he just listed. Yeah, he's in

1726
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: the same set and he's listen, he's the only one

1727
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks except well Lamar Jackson in Baltimore. Josh

1728
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:22,759
Speaker 1: Allen's coming back as the guy. He's in the same system.

1729
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: He's got the same quarterback room, same offensive coordinator, and

1730
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: a new and better offensive line. He's got new and

1731
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: better wide receivers. He's deeper wide receivers, He's got a

1732
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 1: more a different tight end, cores, all this stuff is different.

1733
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: He's all that going for him, that the strides he

1734
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: made last year. There's a ton of things to be

1735
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: optimistic about. The question is what's it gonna look like?

1736
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: And you think it's just gonna be because of the statistics.

1737
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,480
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna You have to choose between statistics,

1738
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 1: how many how many more games would this team have

1739
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: won if they had an offense that could score twenty

1740
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: five points a game? A ton more. I'm not gonna

1741
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 1: go back and look, but there's a bunch more. Even

1742
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: some of the games where the other team scored thirty,

1743
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have scored thirty if you had an offense

1744
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: that would keep them off the field at least some

1745
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: the NFL. The Bills led the NFL in three and out.

1746
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 1: You can't do that. That should change this year. That's

1747
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 1: one statistic and that has nothing to do with leadership

1748
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: or Josh Allen's completion percentage. You know, just wow, you know, yep,

1749
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 1: there's so many ways to slice this and there's so

1750
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: many reasons to be optimistic. We're trying to figure out

1751
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: and get to the crux of what you think it's

1752
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: gonna look like when these improvements take place. All right,

1753
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 1: what do you think? Where should where will we see

1754
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: the most improvement? From Josh Allen, give us a call,

1755
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 1: let us know what you think. Eight fifty to three

1756
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty Steve and

1757
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: I coming back One Doll's Live from One's Drive on

1758
01:24:52,560 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back One Bill's Live from One

1759
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Seve Tasker here until three today,

1760
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Butler on the all time great Buffalo Bills from

1761
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 1: our first round pick. You're gonna join us coming up

1762
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 1: at the top of the next hour, about ten minutes away.

1763
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 1: We talked about this briefly Steve with Andy Bonoi earlier

1764
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 1: this hour. The NFL still does not have a rule

1765
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: in place about past interference on replay review. Still no rule.

1766
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: The Competition Committee last week talked to coaches about tweaks

1767
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: to the current rule. The Competition Committee now this week

1768
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: will circle back with owners to determine whether and to

1769
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: what extent the current rule will be changed. The issue

1770
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: is who calls it right? Does it go to automatic

1771
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: review for past interference? In the last two minutes, Competition

1772
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: Committee must determine whether replay review will be available for

1773
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: Hail Mary plays Steve. They don't have this rule down.

1774
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 1: Here's my point, they don't have this rule ready. What

1775
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 1: is the rush to pacify people who didn't like the

1776
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: Nickel Robi Clonan play last year. It was a horrible play.

1777
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 1: It was an egregious miss by the officials. It was terrible.

1778
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: But if you're not ready, don't just jam something through.

1779
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: And that's what the league is doing, and they have

1780
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: been doing it since the meetings, right, and the coaches

1781
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 1: had their own meetings at the NFL meetings, and normally

1782
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 1: a rule change comes out of the Competition Committee. But

1783
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: Sean Payton led the coaches and Sean McDermott went along

1784
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: with it and got them to say, hey, we want

1785
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: past interference reviewable. In the last two minutes, the coaches insisted,

1786
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: this is when you tell the coaches to turn around.

1787
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: Turn around, we make decisions. You know it. Seriously, war

1788
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 1: is too important to be It's the old saying war

1789
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 1: is too important to be left to the generals. They

1790
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: are the generals. You don't make these rules. We are

1791
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 1: the competition committee. We make the rules. And here we

1792
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: are six weeks from the start of the season, and

1793
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: no one knows what the rule is or how it

1794
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: will be enforced. It's ridiculous. Here's the thing. Last year,

1795
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 1: how many and you've got the article, idiot, one hundred

1796
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: and forty seven plays during the regular season playoffs is

1797
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: what they challenged. One hundred and forty seven out of

1798
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 1: a possible five hundred and thirty four games, one hundred

1799
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: and forty seven plays were challenged. That's just point two

1800
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 1: eight per game, only nineteen instances, only a nineteen of

1801
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 1: the five hundred and thirty four games, nineteen of them

1802
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,600
Speaker 1: where the guy used two challenges, both the challenges, and

1803
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: then since two thousand and one only all three challenges

1804
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:39,759
Speaker 1: where if you get both right, the coach has another

1805
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 1: one to use. It's happened nine times, nine times since

1806
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, Murph. Nine times in history have

1807
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: as a head coach used three challenges in a game. So,

1808
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 1: but now to use three challenges the game, he has

1809
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 1: to get the first two correct, he has to challenge

1810
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: twice and get them both erect, and he gets another

1811
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 1: challenge right. So only nine times in history has that challenge.

1812
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: I'm it doesn't happen that often the league's very worried

1813
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 1: and concerned that the game is going to go to

1814
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 1: a grind to a complete stop in the last two

1815
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: minutes of the fourth quarter, because they're gonna want every

1816
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 1: little thing looked at. And my thought is, just give

1817
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 1: him a and the coaches are echoing this as well.

1818
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: Give him a sky judge. Have a guy up there

1819
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: that says, whoa, whoa, whoa WHOA big mistake here, let's

1820
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 1: go back and review that. And he'll only do that

1821
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 1: for in the case of a Nicole Nikel Roby Coleman,

1822
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 1: which by the way, has happened once in our lifetime.

1823
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: You're seeing a sky judge for this year, this season. Well,

1824
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 1: it would keep him from changing anything else. Don't change

1825
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 1: anything else. They don't. It wouldn't change anything else. Sky

1826
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 1: judge is pretty pretty significant change. They have a super

1827
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 1: ref you'd never see him and nothing whatever, Murph, it's

1828
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 1: happened once in our lifetime. There'd be others things once

1829
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: in our lifetime. And it's only in the last couple

1830
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: of minutes. I would entertain the thought of a sky judge.

1831
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: I would discuss it, think about the unintended consequences which

1832
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: become very important, but I wouldn't rush into it with

1833
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: a season six eight weeks away. Yeah, I mean that's

1834
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: a problem. That's a big problem. They can't get they

1835
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 1: can't decide on it. And one of the things there's

1836
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: a lot of nuance to this, and we heard Andy

1837
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 1: Benois said this as well, because what happened was when

1838
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 1: they voted on it as the coaches and the competition committee,

1839
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: when they sent it to the owners, it wasn't what

1840
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: they voted on. So that I was like, whoa, another guy,

1841
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 1: the huge, huge snapfoo parliamentary procedure that's holding the whole

1842
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 1: thing up and they can't get it right. So what

1843
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 1: they voted on isn't what they sent to the owners.

1844
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: Well that's a problem obviously. So there it's a mess.

1845
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: Stupid that it's gone on this bar the coaches who

1846
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 1: insisted back in the owners meetings that we want this

1847
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: change and we want to have the ability to call

1848
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: for a replay review in the final two minutes. We

1849
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 1: don't want the replay official to do it. Then they

1850
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 1: started thinking about it, Well, I mean I gotta save

1851
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 1: a time out to do that. Yeah, under the replay rule,

1852
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 1: you do even in the last two minutes. You're not

1853
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: going to be able to have a replay challenge before that.

1854
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: I gotta save it, Yes, you do. You know you

1855
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 1: have to just like a time out and listen, Sean.

1856
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 1: This comes back to the to the New Orleans Saints

1857
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: LA Ram game where there's an egregious miss and maybe

1858
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 1: would have sent probably sent the wrong team or the

1859
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: different team to the super Bowl. Who got crushed And

1860
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 1: it's it's echoes other coaches ultimate if not, they're ultimate

1861
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: if not. Their immediate goal is for a sky judge

1862
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 1: to handle reverses, reversals of obvious mistakes. Now we're talking

1863
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 1: about obvious. Well, then you can say obvious all you

1864
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:42,640
Speaker 1: want and I and I don't have a problem with it.

1865
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. The sky judge sounds like the easiest, simplest,

1866
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 1: cleanest way to fix all of this. Just do everything

1867
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: like you've been doing. And if if there's an overarching problem,

1868
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 1: then somebody swoops in and says, wait a minute, look

1869
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 1: at this. This is too egregious to let go. We're

1870
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 1: gonna fix it. That's fine, But then that line is

1871
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 1: starting to get thinner, gonna start to get thinner and

1872
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,719
Speaker 1: thinner and thinner. It's not gonna be like Nicole Nickel,

1873
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: Roby Coleman. It's gonna be like Dez Bryant making a

1874
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: catch or not making a catch. You're gonna have to

1875
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 1: go by ultimate you know, the ultra slow motion, or

1876
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be some other call that says, well, it

1877
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 1: was wrong, but they got it right. You know they didn't.

1878
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't egregious enough to review. And then it's gonna

1879
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: be all up in arms. That's where you get into

1880
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 1: murky waters. So the sky judge will be great if

1881
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 1: it's an easy call for everybody, but not that that

1882
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 1: happens like Murphytt happened once in our lifetime. And now

1883
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: we've got this enormous issue where there's meetings and committees

1884
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 1: and votes come on two months before the season. It's

1885
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 1: like they've lost faith in the game. Yep, it's again,

1886
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: there's not much wrong with the NFL in this regard.

1887
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 1: You can say what you want about all the snark

1888
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 1: and all that, but there's not much wrong with this game.

1889
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: So don't fix something that is not broken. I agree.

1890
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 1: All right, we got one of the all time buffalo

1891
01:31:58,040 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 1: bills to anybody to join this after the top of

1892
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: the hour. Come on back, Jerry Butler. One more Bills

1893
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 1: first round draft pick wide receiver from Clemson, will join

1894
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 1: us when we return. One Bills Live from One Bill's

1895
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:16,959
Speaker 1: Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio Bills Radio Network

1896
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 1: Stories Day. The update from One Bill's Drive. Bills players

1897
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 1: in the final week of their offseason workouts. Many of

1898
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 1: them here for voluntary workouts today tomorrow They're mandatory three

1899
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:29,679
Speaker 1: day mandatory mini camp starts tomorrow runs through Thursday. This week.

1900
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: This is the last practice week until training camp, which

1901
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 1: is about six weeks away. Patriots have canceled the last

1902
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 1: two days of their organized team activity. They had their

1903
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 1: mini camp last week and at Coach Bill Belichick obviously

1904
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 1: like what he saw, decided to give his team two

1905
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: days off this week. What happened to no days off?

1906
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:49,640
Speaker 1: Cam Newton is gonna throw at the Carolina Panthers a

1907
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: mini camp starting tomorrow. This is following his rehab from

1908
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 1: shoulder surgery. Scheduled to throw during all the quarterback drills

1909
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 1: when Carolina's three day mandatory mini camp begins tomorrow. Over

1910
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 1: the weekend, some personnel moves around the league. The Houston

1911
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,560
Speaker 1: Texans fired general manager Brian Gaine, who was with the

1912
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills for one year. The Texans just hired him

1913
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 1: in January twenty eighteen, but they decided to let him

1914
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: go and the Jets have ended their twenty three days

1915
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 1: search for a general manager. Hired Eagles vice president of

1916
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:19,719
Speaker 1: player Personnel Joe Douglas to work alongside new head coach

1917
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 1: Adam Gays basketball Tonight, it is Game five of the

1918
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 1: NBA Finals Golden State at Toronto. Raptors have a chance

1919
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 1: to win their first NBA title tonight. The Warriors list

1920
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 1: forward Kevin Durant as questionable for tonight's Game five tip

1921
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 1: off tonight nine o'clock in Toronto. You can see it

1922
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 1: on ABC. Savers and ounce over the weekend that they've

1923
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: signed forward Jeff Skinner to an eight year contract an

1924
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: average annual value of nine million dollars. He scored forty

1925
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 1: goals last year for Buffalo. And the Boston Bruins getting

1926
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: set to play their Game seven of the Stanley Cup

1927
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 1: Finals against Saint Louis took A. Rask was outstanding last

1928
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 1: night as the Bruins face elimination, rank with twenty eight saves,

1929
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 1: cluing one that rolled off his back as the Bruins

1930
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: defeated the Lewis Blues five to one, Game seven of

1931
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup Finals, coming up Wednesday night this week.

1932
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 1: And that's the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy

1933
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 1: and Steve Tansker in our one Buffalo studio. Ready to

1934
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 1: start our number three of the program today. Ready to

1935
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 1: start it with our next guest, the familiar face and

1936
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 1: a good friend to both Steve and I. Happy to

1937
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 1: have him back in the building, former Bills wide receiver,

1938
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 1: former Bill's first round draft pick, Jerry Butler. I love

1939
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: having you here. Thank you for coming by, Thank you

1940
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 1: for having me. How did you miss out on the

1941
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 1: show for the least go where you? Let's call a

1942
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 1: personal invite. My number has been the same for a

1943
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 1: lot of years. Yeah, you might regret that. Welcome back.

1944
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 1: He came back. They had you talking to the rookies, y'all. Yes, Marlon, Uh,

1945
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 1: he sent a personal invite. I was actually in town

1946
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 1: for the Van Miller Hometown Hero Golf Tournament and uh,

1947
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 1: he say, hey, since you're in town, you know, uh,

1948
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: will you give a free speech? I said, well, Marrow,

1949
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 1: I told you I believe in free speech, but I

1950
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: don't like giving them. But I love I love what

1951
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: he's doing here with the team, and I said absolutely

1952
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 1: So men, a couple of guys came over. They wanted

1953
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 1: to come. You have you come and talk to the

1954
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: rookies about what this team means to these people. Oh

1955
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: my god, Yes, And just to see their bright young

1956
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 1: faces and the way they just look at you like

1957
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 1: they want to hear the inside skinny on things because

1958
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 1: I know exactly what they're thinking from that seat. I've

1959
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 1: had a footprint and player engagement in player development for

1960
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 1: over thirty years, and I kind of know as much

1961
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 1: about it as anyone needs to know about it. And

1962
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 1: so that's a great opportunity when alumni can come back

1963
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 1: and really really talk to them and they can experience

1964
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 1: the energy, the knowledge, the wisdom that comes from that.

1965
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:45,600
Speaker 1: And it's a great thing to have the opportunity to

1966
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 1: do that. I gotta ask you, because I have not

1967
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 1: gone now for a couple of years. I didn't miss

1968
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: the first year the Van Miller Hometown Heroes un Tournament

1969
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 1: of Sherwood and dunk Kirk. Yeah, that's always a great event.

1970
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,719
Speaker 1: How those people in dunk Kirk and the bank people

1971
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 1: who put it on they really do a great job, right, Oh,

1972
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:03,839
Speaker 1: Lake Shorse and that's an amazing Uh, the course is amazing.

1973
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 1: You know we had training camp in for don't you

1974
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 1: won't remember that? Don't you see him laughing? Oh, you

1975
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 1: want to tell him how way back nine is a

1976
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 1: little better in the front although it Yeah, do you

1977
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't believe you how much golf these guys played, right, Steve. Yeah,

1978
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 1: that's a great course. It's a nice course, and just

1979
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 1: to right to have an opportunity to just do it

1980
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 1: right on the lake again and at that freeze, Comma.

1981
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 1: I love it. Famous for a great cause too, and

1982
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 1: it was two individual scholarship winners that were able to

1983
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 1: receive a nice scholarship that came from it. Yeah. I

1984
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 1: told Murph when you know we heard you were coming on,

1985
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, we were teammates. And I remind you

1986
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 1: it was the last three games of your career here,

1987
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 1: because I got here midway through eighty six. Yeah, and

1988
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,600
Speaker 1: the third game here we were home against Pittsburgh on

1989
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 1: the road in New England, and I came home against

1990
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 1: Miami right in Miami. That's when you broke your leg

1991
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 1: on that touchdown. Yes, that's right, and that ended up

1992
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:00,560
Speaker 1: a bat last that was I tell people, that's the

1993
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 1: way to go out. If you're gonna go out, go

1994
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 1: out catching a t D. Right, Well, it wasn't really

1995
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 1: the plan that on the other side of that good

1996
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 1: juh Yeah, it was a great catch, but obviously you

1997
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 1: don't know that that that will you still have some

1998
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 1: football left. I felt idea, and I love the game,

1999
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 1: and you know, I chased the game for quite a

2000
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 1: long time and I wanted to continue to do it

2001
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 1: at a high level. And uh so I'm pleased with that. Um,

2002
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 1: you can't do anything with injuries one hundred percent injury

2003
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 1: guarantee sport. Uh So, that's why you have as many

2004
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:41,600
Speaker 1: medical uh staff around and doctors to take care of

2005
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 1: you because you know all too well too that that's

2006
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 1: going to happen to you. And unfortunately that's my story.

2007
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm a tour about it, and that's how it worked. Well,

2008
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 1: I know it's it's that's the downer part. What are

2009
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 1: the you know, what are the things you to carry

2010
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:55,640
Speaker 1: with you from your career that you're kind of like

2011
01:37:56,240 --> 01:38:00,639
Speaker 1: kind of make you smile, Well, you know, tough enough.

2012
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: I when I left the game, I realized I had

2013
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 1: a really bad ankle. Uh, and it ultimately I wanted

2014
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:13,600
Speaker 1: with a right ankle fusion to help out with that.

2015
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: I had terrible shoulders and knee and I'd suffered worth

2016
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 1: that for quite a long time. And so I finally

2017
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 1: a year ago, took the time away and had a

2018
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,679
Speaker 1: shoulder replacement. So it didn't help my golf game any

2019
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 1: I know that. I'm gonna keep that in mind. Yeah,

2020
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 1: and so I'm still got a little bit of a

2021
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 1: I gotta need to do and a little bit of

2022
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 1: back and hopefully that carried me the rest of the way.

2023
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 1: Jerry Butler, our guest former Bill's first round draft pack.

2024
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:40,679
Speaker 1: First round in nineteen seventy nine, you were fifth overall

2025
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 1: right in the drafting? Yeah, you were a premium. Who

2026
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 1: was number one in I'm taking you way back now,

2027
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 1: seventy what seventy nine? Forty years ago? Who was number one?

2028
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 1: I know? I just looked it up. Blake. Hey, we

2029
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 1: tried to get him on the show and we couldn't

2030
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 1: reach him. That's right. Oh my god, my god. People

2031
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 1: don't know that. Yeah, that's what they remember. We talked

2032
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 1: about around the trends time with the draft. Forty years

2033
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 1: since the Bills drafted Tom Cusino. Everybody's heard from him

2034
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 1: since he used to be on this. Well, you know,

2035
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 1: when I was with the Cleveland Browns, I U I

2036
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: talked with Tom. I actually called him and say, hey,

2037
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 1: what'd you come over? And and he did. He came

2038
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:20,599
Speaker 1: into the office. No, yeah, yeah, and he didn't live

2039
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: too far from there. So we sat down and we talked,

2040
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 1: and then U he talked about you know what happened.

2041
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to know, you know, he says, well, I

2042
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: mean stup, Bob or we had a little bit of

2043
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 1: didn't go too well, and uh, he just felt that

2044
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 1: his agent was coming through and say, hey, look, you

2045
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 1: know what, if you can't put this together, there's an

2046
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:42,600
Speaker 1: opportunity right across the Peace Bridge, and uh, I'm like,

2047
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: you're not gonna do that, all right? But it materialized

2048
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 1: and hopefully it worked out for him. He wasn't bitter

2049
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 1: about it, but I think that, uh, he probably wished

2050
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: he had to start it. Yeah, out in the NFL,

2051
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: you can't do a Bills team jury that had what

2052
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 1: five wins here? You got here seven wins your first year.

2053
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 1: But did you feel with the talent around you that

2054
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 1: things around the upswing. I mean you had had Fergie,

2055
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 1: you had a rocket arm, you had Frank Lewis on

2056
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 1: the other side, right receiver talent. We had great talent,

2057
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:15,600
Speaker 1: We had great assets. Uh. And it kept going. And

2058
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 1: I since the sixty four team, I guess things were

2059
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 1: a little bit dormant. But I had a great mentor

2060
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: and Frank Lewis took me out of his wing, showed

2061
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 1: me a lot of things to accelerate my game quicker.

2062
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 1: And so I had a great opportunity. And you know,

2063
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 1: we brought in guys like Joe Cribbs, and it's just

2064
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 1: we just kept adding and adding and adding. How many

2065
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 1: head coaches did you play for? Uh, well, let's see,

2066
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:46,560
Speaker 1: I ended with Marv. Started with Chuck, Yeah, with Chuck K.

2067
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 1: Stevenson and Hank Bullock right, and then Mark Mark Marv

2068
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 1: came in in in nineteen eighty. So your second year,

2069
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 1: that team took off. And fans of a certain age

2070
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 1: my age and have great memories of that season. Just

2071
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 1: a great year AFC East Championship playoff appearance right at

2072
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 1: the end of the year at San Diego, a great

2073
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 1: playoff game, and that was that was one of the

2074
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 1: special years in franchise history. What do you recall about Well,

2075
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:12,759
Speaker 1: because you know, the team was really at the bottom

2076
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,640
Speaker 1: of the pile. You know, you had great teams like

2077
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins that had ran it for quite a long time.

2078
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:20,799
Speaker 1: So there was there was a lot of good teams

2079
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 1: out there, and so but Chump Knox Coach Knox, you know,

2080
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 1: he brought in some of the most enthusiastic guys like

2081
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 1: his uh Phil Villipiano and Conrad dobla Uha Robinson you know,

2082
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 1: uh and quiet locker room. Right. Ah. It was fun,

2083
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,600
Speaker 1: that's for sure. And winning was fun. We had a

2084
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,600
Speaker 1: great time. Uh. And so you know that was I

2085
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 1: think that was the foundation. We put a really nice

2086
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 1: foundation in place. And then we finally got guys like

2087
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:53,879
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker coming in here and Bruce Bruce Smith, well,

2088
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 1: Hank Buller drafted him. I remember Coach Bo telling Bruce

2089
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 1: if he and control his weight, you know, he would

2090
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 1: never play in the National Football League, you know he

2091
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 1: and he told me, he says, only there's only two

2092
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 1: things he's gonna keep you from playing in the National

2093
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 1: Football League. Bruce, boynon know what's that? He said? A

2094
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: knife and a fort It's good, that's a good line. Yeah,

2095
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 1: so he Uh it worked too because it was Bruce

2096
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 1: Uh turned out to be the greatest pass rusher of

2097
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: all time and it was Yeah, and he did it

2098
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 1: most of it or defense, great defense. So your last

2099
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 1: year in Buffalo was eighty six and Steve said, um,

2100
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: did you ever regret missing out on the great Super

2101
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 1: Bowl run? You how old wording when you got out?

2102
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 1: He must have been just like twenty Yeah, I was

2103
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 1: like just turning the curve on thirty. Yeah, yeah, it happened.

2104
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:47,559
Speaker 1: I thought, I mean, I thought I would come back.

2105
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 1: A doctor that operated on my knee to repair ACL.

2106
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 1: I trusted him, and I eventually I went to see

2107
01:42:56,520 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 1: him when I was struggling in training camp and he

2108
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 1: basically told me, he's just you're not going to ever

2109
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 1: play another down on that ankle. I told him, I'm

2110
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 1: not gonna pay you for that information. I didn't want

2111
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 1: that so h So he was right and I didn't.

2112
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 1: And I've suffered a long time from you, Right, what

2113
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 1: did what did you have to say or what's your

2114
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: main message to young players these days? Well, I think

2115
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 1: being behind the scenes and athletes life in the intimate way,

2116
01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 1: you know, the one thing that I try to educate

2117
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 1: them on is be a student of the game and

2118
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 1: learn from other individuals that have excelled at the game

2119
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 1: and get the final pieces to take it from knowledge

2120
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 1: to wisdom okay, and figure out how things work, why

2121
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 1: they work, learn how to study, learn how to view

2122
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 1: your opponents, and learn how to adjust your game every

2123
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 1: two to three weeks. Why, because you're being scouted, has

2124
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 1: a scouting report out on you every three to four weeks,

2125
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 1: so you need to make some adjustments. And guys, you know,

2126
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 1: guys listened to that. You know, Andre Reid, he was

2127
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 1: a good listener. You didn't listen though, Yeah, but you

2128
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 1: weren't around enough for me. I was. He would have

2129
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 1: told me how to cover kicks you to have more success.

2130
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 1: But do you know I was actually a holder, Yeah, yeah,

2131
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 1: I was, actually yeah, well I was. I was a

2132
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 1: bad hands are the ones that catch the ball? And

2133
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 1: Dempsey was in training camp when I showed up here, right,

2134
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,719
Speaker 1: and I had to hold in training camp for Dempsey.

2135
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 1: I didn't like that because he wasn't a soccer style.

2136
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 1: He just come right off. Oh my god, I looked

2137
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 1: at that thing yuh like sound like a gunshot? Oh

2138
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 1: he did he had that thing rigged up. Man was

2139
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 1: two by fours and receiver Jerry Butler you coached as

2140
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:48,919
Speaker 1: well a couple of years with the Browns coaching whiteouts.

2141
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 1: I did like that I did. It was exciting. Uh

2142
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 1: there was some I had struggles, you know, from physicality standpoint.

2143
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 1: Ankle was just killing me. Knees killing me. Older skilling,

2144
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 1: can't throw, can't really be the type of coach I

2145
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:05,600
Speaker 1: wanted to be. But I was a great teacher and

2146
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 1: uh and so we actually I thought we put the

2147
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:12,000
Speaker 1: team in a right position to grow. And and uh,

2148
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:14,719
Speaker 1: I think Butch Davis when he took over, the team

2149
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:18,560
Speaker 1: continued to grow in that capacity. Uh, it kind of

2150
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 1: went backwards a little bit. You know. Romeo Cornell came

2151
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: from from uh great background with New England. He was

2152
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 1: a great coach, great leader, and just you know, things change,

2153
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, mister Learner he passed away and and Randy

2154
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 1: took over the team and tried to do the best

2155
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 1: that he could, and he constantly searched for leadership. Uh,

2156
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:42,600
Speaker 1: and it's just just evolved. And unfortunately, you know, I

2157
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 1: lost my good friend Dwight Clark this past year and

2158
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 1: Benny Cunningham and Dee Hardison and you know, so there's

2159
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,720
Speaker 1: a there's a lot of struggles out there. So I'm

2160
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 1: blessed to be above ground right now to talk about it.

2161
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:58,640
Speaker 1: Any any regrets about going into coaching, Would you have

2162
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 1: done it earlier? Would you maybe pointed your own playing

2163
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 1: career towards that more so? Well, honestly, I felt I

2164
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 1: was more geared for management. That was Uh. I love coaching.

2165
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 1: I love teaching, but I think probably my goals were

2166
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 1: to to forge towards a GM, and I wanted to

2167
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 1: learn from John Butler. It's like that a J. Smith. Uh.

2168
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 1: And then you know, going to Cleveland gave me an

2169
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 1: opportunity to advance at that level with Dwight, he knew

2170
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 1: what my goals were, so I did a fair amount

2171
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 1: of things there with him. And then when when uh,

2172
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 1: Butch Davis took over, I was able to do a

2173
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:40,600
Speaker 1: little more scouting under him too. What's the key to that,

2174
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 1: to getting into that end of the of the businesses? Everybody,

2175
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, the GM is kind of the gold standard everybody,

2176
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, that's the top office really in the NFL.

2177
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 1: If you're not a coach, what's the what's the career

2178
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 1: path looked like, is there a kind of set pattern

2179
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,680
Speaker 1: or is it kind of just you know what I mean? Oh,

2180
01:46:56,720 --> 01:47:00,639
Speaker 1: you asked it a role specially right on it. But yeah,

2181
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know a lot of times it's not

2182
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:04,479
Speaker 1: from the coaching side. A lot of it's from the

2183
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 1: scouting side. And but coaches do the same thing almost

2184
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:11,680
Speaker 1: You go out and you evaluate players and then I

2185
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 1: think always had a good I felt a good eye

2186
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:18,640
Speaker 1: for talent. But being a teacher, developing talent that's the

2187
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 1: key thing you can get. You can acquire talent, but

2188
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 1: you got to develop that talent. And how do you

2189
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 1: do that and sharpen those skill sets into mind and

2190
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 1: then learn that edge that you need to learn. As

2191
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 1: you were scouting, you didn't the coaching side of it

2192
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:35,720
Speaker 1: as well. How do you do you scout players that

2193
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 1: fit your system? Do you scout players that are just

2194
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 1: the best athlete, bost measurables and then fit a system

2195
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:45,040
Speaker 1: around them. Do you look for a chemistry fit? Do

2196
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 1: you look for just smart guys who are just going

2197
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:48,720
Speaker 1: to get better maybe than you know what I mean?

2198
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 1: What do you know? What do you do as a scout?

2199
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 1: What do you look for? Well, everyone has their own

2200
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 1: way of looking at it. I have my way that

2201
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 1: I look at it basically, because you know, office core

2202
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 1: natives change. I could get four or five guys to

2203
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 1: fit this system, but now he becomes a head coach

2204
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:07,679
Speaker 1: at system's gone. Now I've got these players matching that system.

2205
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 1: You know. So I do want guys that are smart

2206
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 1: and that they're able to learn. But I think my

2207
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 1: approaches is to be able to teach them the final

2208
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 1: components of the game, to be able to cut down

2209
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 1: on mistakes, because parody is all across and that's football league.

2210
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 1: But if you can train your guys and teach them

2211
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:31,680
Speaker 1: how to learn on their own and eliminate mistakes, I

2212
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 1: think that's the key component behind the scenes. And my

2213
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 1: other model is basically balancing the team between veterans and

2214
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 1: young players. I like to look at carrying a team

2215
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 1: for four point two four point three years average. That

2216
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 1: gives me an opportunity for young guys to learn from

2217
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 1: older guys. I think that pays dividen. I mean the

2218
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:56,439
Speaker 1: places I've gone now in Denver, in Chicago. You know,

2219
01:48:56,560 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 1: we've balanced that model with John Fox, and you know,

2220
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:04,440
Speaker 1: he's been very good at building teams and being successful

2221
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 1: and being competitive. So that model helps. It works. I

2222
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 1: was going to ask you too. And when you're talking

2223
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 1: about scouts, everybody says, well, go look for these guys,

2224
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 1: Go look for that guy. With scouts, they look at everybody, right,

2225
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 1: I mean, what a scout really does. He says, live

2226
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:17,800
Speaker 1: got a guy for you. He says, here are these guys,

2227
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 1: here's what they are, and you pick the guys you want. Right.

2228
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 1: The scout just says, this is what this guy is.

2229
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for a guy like a you know,

2230
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 1: big time, big time receiver. I'm looking at this guy.

2231
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 1: He's not a big time receiver, but he's that kind

2232
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 1: of thing. Yeah, you evaluate their skill set. You don't

2233
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 1: really look for categories of players. Just say, hey, this

2234
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:37,559
Speaker 1: is the guy you want me to look at. Here's

2235
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 1: what he is. Correct, Yeah, this is the best in

2236
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 1: that now. But everybody, you have to assess your team

2237
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 1: and evaluate, you know, what do you need? Because you

2238
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 1: lose guys in free agency. Um, so you always are

2239
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 1: assessing that number and you've got agents calling. You're trying

2240
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 1: to push their guys towards you, so you want to

2241
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 1: evaluate them. You want to look at the injuries on

2242
01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:59,639
Speaker 1: a guy can you can you get production out of them?

2243
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 1: How does he affect our salary cap? You know? And

2244
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 1: then there's some go getters. I've got to go get

2245
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 1: that guy because guess what, I need a quarterback. I

2246
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 1: saw Jim Kelly gout here as Bill Polian decided, I

2247
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 1: need a quarterback. I need a guy on the end here.

2248
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 1: You know, I need another receiver inside. So as you

2249
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 1: assess your team and the needs of your team, you know,

2250
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:21,760
Speaker 1: do that and to your point talent wise. So I

2251
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever heard that story about Bear

2252
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,879
Speaker 1: Bryan and Jeans Stalls where at the University of Alabama

2253
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 1: and Jeans was one of the scouts. He comes in,

2254
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 1: he tells Barry he wants to know what Bear wants

2255
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 1: to know what type of player do you have for

2256
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 1: me this year? He says, I got a tough player.

2257
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 1: He's tough band. I tell you what. He'll get knocked

2258
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 1: down and he'll get right back up. If he gets

2259
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 1: knocked down three times, he'll get right back up. And

2260
01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 1: Coach looked at me and says, well, forget that guy,

2261
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 1: get me the one that's knocking him down. You know.

2262
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 1: So you always have those little rental things in your

2263
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 1: in your mind there, So I've seen going to looking

2264
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 1: at another guy, found another guy. That's the story on me.

2265
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 1: You know, Linda Body looking for Tom cousin though, and

2266
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 1: mister Wilson said she saw you, and she came back

2267
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:10,640
Speaker 1: and said, I don't know abouts, we should definitely get this.

2268
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 1: Jerry Butler, our guest, former Bills first round draft it.

2269
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 1: You spend a lot of your career, Jerry in player development, right,

2270
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:22,880
Speaker 1: player engagement? Player development A little bit here Cleveland, you said, Denver, yep, Chicago, Yeah,

2271
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 1: And it strikes me how different that job must have changed.

2272
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:28,640
Speaker 1: I much should have evolved. I mean, the players are

2273
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 1: all gonna be the rookies, you're all gonna be twenty two,

2274
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 1: twenty three. But they're different than when you came in

2275
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:35,760
Speaker 1: or even ten years ago. They're different now, right, Yeah,

2276
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the end of the day,

2277
01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 1: even though times go by and you'll get older, the

2278
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 1: one key ingredient that's the common element is they all

2279
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 1: want to be loved and respected. And if you can

2280
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:49,840
Speaker 1: learn how to love them and respect them where they're

2281
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 1: at and teach them. I mean, this is probably the

2282
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 1: first group in the generation where social media and technology

2283
01:51:58,120 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 1: represents one hundred percent of their life. Like for me,

2284
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:04,760
Speaker 1: I only had technology maybe ten percent in my life

2285
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 1: so far, you maybe seventy percent and you probably eight

2286
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean fifty percent. But now you have a generation

2287
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 1: that everyone's technology. They don't know how to interact with

2288
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:18,600
Speaker 1: each other in different ways. So, you know, being in

2289
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 1: player development, actually being here with the team, I would

2290
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:25,639
Speaker 1: come up with ideas. I say John Butler, I said

2291
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:28,759
Speaker 1: we need an alumni department. Okay, you go ahead and started.

2292
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, well I didn't. I didn't bring that up

2293
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 1: just so I would have more work to do. But

2294
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 1: it was a passion. I understood it. And where we're

2295
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:39,600
Speaker 1: gonna go. Bill Monson he was actually was this was

2296
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 1: just starting player programs at the time, and he had

2297
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 1: the construction of the stadium going on. He tells John Butler,

2298
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:49,679
Speaker 1: I'm too busy. I can't do this. So John says,

2299
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 1: you get on the plane and go to New York

2300
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 1: and find out about this. So I went there. It

2301
01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:55,560
Speaker 1: was only three teams and had a guy like me,

2302
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 1: and they put me on a lim Burnham. He put

2303
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:00,759
Speaker 1: me on the committee right away at the League office

2304
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 1: and we just started building the program up for the league.

2305
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where as a bomb, you come

2306
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 1: back here and you see what what our guys do,

2307
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 1: right with Jeremy Kelly and yeah and Marlin Yeah, I

2308
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:17,439
Speaker 1: mean it's pretty developed here and it is both for

2309
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 1: alumni and for the current players. Right. They set up

2310
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:24,840
Speaker 1: programs offseason programs, in season programs. Yeah. Well, if you

2311
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 1: if you think back, there was the Rookie Symposium. I

2312
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 1: don't know, it wasn't when it was host Yeah, so

2313
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:35,679
Speaker 1: the Rookie Symposium would take the draft choice and take

2314
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 1: them away and they would be there for a three

2315
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 1: day onboarding process or NFL. Well, we finally got smart.

2316
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:46,280
Speaker 1: It takes three years counting on the table and say say, well,

2317
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 1: what about the ten guys fifteen guys we're leaving that

2318
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 1: didn't get drafted. And I didn't think that was fair,

2319
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:54,720
Speaker 1: and so we just needed to figure out how to

2320
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 1: engage everyone in the rookies through the process, because thirty

2321
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 1: of your team is made up for guys that weren't

2322
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:06,840
Speaker 1: drafted and they got nothing. So we we came smarter

2323
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,679
Speaker 1: by doing that, and that's why they have these programs

2324
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 1: in place now where all everyone's going, it's it's amazing

2325
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:19,559
Speaker 1: what inclusion can do right, included right, So it's yeah,

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01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 1: it's good to hear. It's good to hear. It's great

2327
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:23,600
Speaker 1: to see your man before you leave. Jerry Butler. Eight years, right,

2328
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,560
Speaker 1: eight seasons with the Bills. Favorite game? You want me

2329
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:29,679
Speaker 1: to offer what I'm guessing it might be? Yeah, go ahead,

2330
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:32,720
Speaker 1: off opening day in nineteen eighty. That wasn't it? No?

2331
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:36,480
Speaker 1: Four touchdowns against the Jets city scored as a rookie. No, no,

2332
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 1: all right, I give up? What was your favorite game?

2333
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 1: Eight years with the Bills. I'm gonna try and do

2334
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 1: this under a minute. I came in as a rookie.

2335
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 1: We played the Pittsburgh Steelers, who I have to go

2336
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 1: against Mail Blond, one of the toughest dvs on the planet.

2337
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:53,600
Speaker 1: And uh, I was losing this sorry swim technique, so

2338
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 1: I had a positive outside release. I used my swim technique,

2339
01:54:57,880 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 1: put my hand right here to get buy him. He

2340
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 1: caught me right here and I couldn't let I couldn't

2341
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,880
Speaker 1: get it down. He drove me literally out of bounds.

2342
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 1: Chuck Knoxy, you know, the headsets had the chords and

2343
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 1: everything around, and he started chasing me behind the coach

2344
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 1: and the coach was trying to get away, and I'll

2345
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 1: try to get away. I was like, whoa. And so

2346
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 1: basically the next year I Frank Lewis. I said, Frank,

2347
01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 1: you know Mel, I'd say, come on, let's help me

2348
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 1: with this. What do I need to do? So he

2349
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 1: taught me a few things. And the next year, you know,

2350
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 1: we actually had to play Pittsburgh still is here. Yeah,

2351
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 1: and that was a great day. So I had learned

2352
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 1: some things, anticipated some things. I was a little bit

2353
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:40,400
Speaker 1: better and more comfortable and so so much so I

2354
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 1: caught a couple pass its great passed on the sideline,

2355
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 1: wanted to touchdown. And after the game, he comes into

2356
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 1: the locker room. Mel Blanc comes into the locker room. Yeah,

2357
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm there on the stand. I said, oh, And he

2358
01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:56,920
Speaker 1: asked the security guard, where's Butler. I see him coming

2359
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 1: in and I'm like, oh, man, it's going down here now.

2360
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 1: So when he did, he came over and he wanted

2361
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 1: to say hi to Frank, but he just he just said, man, hey,

2362
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 1: you keep playing like that, young man. He said, you're

2363
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 1: gonna be in Canton because you're I played for a

2364
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:12,800
Speaker 1: long time. I have never had a receiver that's with

2365
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 1: this much talent from that guy. From that Yeah, the

2366
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 1: thing you take from me is the respect of the

2367
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 1: guys you earned. That's awesome to hear. And by the way,

2368
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 1: it sounds like Frank Lewis played a really important role

2369
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 1: in your earlier career. Frank's very smart. He teaches you

2370
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 1: how to just slow down, slow everything down because it's

2371
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 1: fast out there. Yeah, I mean things are moving fast

2372
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: at that plane. And your pre snap looks. You know,

2373
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 1: the defense is cheat. Linebacker is cheat. Get your presnap

2374
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 1: looked down. Learn where, learn your defense and what to

2375
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 1: anticipate because sometime your quick slants you need to get

2376
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 1: in there fast. You need to slow down. And Joe

2377
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 1: I would tell him. I said, look, man, I'm going

2378
01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 1: on this quick slant. You gotta get it there all right,

2379
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 1: and he would he would sling it. But my love

2380
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 1: was story on Joe Is. I would have come in

2381
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 1: to hello. He would ask you what you got You

2382
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 1: got anything? Yeah, I say, let's go deep. I got him.

2383
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 1: He said, you always say let's go deep. I said,

2384
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 1: how many times I've been wrong? Let's go Come on, Jerry,

2385
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 1: air it out. It is great to catch up with you.

2386
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming in here to thank you guys

2387
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 1: for having me. Jerry Butler, former first round pick of

2388
01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 1: the Bills, joining us in studio. Stephen I coming back.

2389
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 1: One Bill slide from One Bills Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio,

2390
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:39,840
Speaker 1: Welcome Back one goes from One Goals Drive, John Murphy

2391
01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:42,240
Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker. That was great to have a Yeah,

2392
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 1: can you tell certain guys you can tell I was

2393
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 1: a fan of right when I was a younger man,

2394
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:48,880
Speaker 1: your little kid. That that story, that's one of the

2395
01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 1: stories that reverberates through the halls of this building. Ralph

2396
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 1: Wilson was the owner and his daughter famously was a

2397
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 1: scout fteen and she found Jerry because she went down

2398
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 1: looking at that They centered down to look at Tom

2399
01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 1: Cuzno and these guys at Clemson, right yep. And it

2400
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:06,920
Speaker 1: comes back and says, yeah, Cuzno's pretty good. Yeah, he's

2401
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:09,320
Speaker 1: really good. But there's another guy we need to look at,

2402
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 1: and it was just Jerry Butler, And sure enough they

2403
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 1: take him and he turns out to be Jerry Butler. Yeah,

2404
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean really good. And that's a that's a story

2405
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:25,400
Speaker 1: that you know that mister Wilson loved to retell over

2406
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 1: and over because his daughter is the one who found him,

2407
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 1: and he was unknown up until that point. Um speaking

2408
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:33,360
Speaker 1: to Clemson and yeah, Jerry was the first rounder from Clemson,

2409
01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 1: and I was looking it up and he mentioned dwy

2410
01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 1: Clark and I said, wonder what the connection is Dwight Clark.

2411
01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:40,640
Speaker 1: I forgot about this was a Clemson receiver. He was

2412
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 1: a tenth rounder. What a great career he had, right, Yeah, unbelievable,

2413
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 1: big tall dude, Yeah, big six five guy, Yeah, really big,

2414
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:50,320
Speaker 1: and maybe caught the most famous pass in the NFL history.

2415
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 1: Really they stuck out. Hey, there's a statue of that

2416
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 1: catch in San Francisco at the New Stadium. That's how Yeah,

2417
01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:58,800
Speaker 1: that's pretty big. We got a caller on the line.

2418
01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:00,520
Speaker 1: He wants to talk about those days a little bit.

2419
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 1: Randy and Buffalo on the line with us high Randy, welcome,

2420
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. I just want to

2421
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:09,280
Speaker 1: quick comment, uh, just how how fast Jerry Butler looks,

2422
01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 1: how those long strides and how quick U Joe Ferguson

2423
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:15,880
Speaker 1: got rid of that ball. It looks like those guys

2424
01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 1: could still. I mean sometimes you look at the players

2425
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:24,000
Speaker 1: or of yester years and they don't look like they

2426
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:26,560
Speaker 1: could play today. But boy, those guys look like they could.

2427
01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 1: They could play in today's world. You are, right, Randy,

2428
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:31,400
Speaker 1: looking at and we're looking at highlights. We get that,

2429
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:35,080
Speaker 1: and highlights are always good. But yeah, Fergie's arm and Fergie,

2430
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 1: you know what in his early year he didn't barely

2431
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:40,600
Speaker 1: throw it in nineteen seventy three, and his rookie year

2432
01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 1: by nineteen seventy nine, nineteen eighty when Butler and Frank

2433
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 1: Lewis were here, Fergie had a cannon. He had a gun,

2434
01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 1: and then it went away. About seven years later he

2435
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 1: could spin it. You see the highlight and of course

2436
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 1: they're they're highlights. M But man, oh man, it uh

2437
01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:58,720
Speaker 1: because like I told you, I had, you know, brief

2438
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:03,640
Speaker 1: interaction with with Joe Ferguson when in nineteen eighty six,

2439
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:07,200
Speaker 1: maybe the offseason after eighty six, where they brought Joe

2440
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 1: in here after he had finished his playing career in Detroit,

2441
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:13,600
Speaker 1: he finished up and they they said, well, we'll bring

2442
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:15,360
Speaker 1: him in to see if he can back up Jim.

2443
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:17,160
Speaker 1: You know, he could would be a great mentor. He

2444
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:20,040
Speaker 1: knows Buffalo, he knows, you know, he's been here. It

2445
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:22,120
Speaker 1: would be a great fit if he can still do it.

2446
02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:24,600
Speaker 1: If something happens to Jim Joe, Ferguson could come in

2447
02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:26,800
Speaker 1: and spell him. And they just he just didn't do

2448
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 1: well in the in the workout. Yeah, you couldn't throw

2449
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:30,240
Speaker 1: the deep out anymore. And it was you know, it

2450
02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:33,040
Speaker 1: was late in his career, and um, and that was it.

2451
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:36,040
Speaker 1: They did not they chose not to sign him. Will

2452
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:37,280
Speaker 1: you do the rest of the show. I just want

2453
02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:39,960
Speaker 1: to stay sit here and watch these highlights. Ferguson to Butler.

2454
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:42,880
Speaker 1: So he had four tds against the Jet one game. Yeah,

2455
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 1: that's nice, unbelievable him as a rookie. That's so nice. Yeah.

2456
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:49,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, and and the caller Randy is right. He

2457
02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:52,880
Speaker 1: was big and he was fast. He's still big. I

2458
02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 1: don't know fast, yeah, but he's you know, you look

2459
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:57,040
Speaker 1: at him now, you think, man, we need a few

2460
02:00:57,080 --> 02:00:59,040
Speaker 1: receivers this size, right, I thought that as soon as

2461
02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:00,760
Speaker 1: I saw him. Right now. That was back in the

2462
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:02,680
Speaker 1: day when there were five teams in the division. Right,

2463
02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:05,680
Speaker 1: it was the Bills, the Jets, the Patriots, the Dolphins,

2464
02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:08,520
Speaker 1: and the Colts. Ye. Right, that was the AFC East.

2465
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 1: That was the the era of five team divisions and

2466
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:16,840
Speaker 1: a lot of different and there were three divisions in

2467
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:22,040
Speaker 1: the conference. Sounds right right, east central and west right.

2468
02:01:22,160 --> 02:01:24,800
Speaker 1: I think so. I think that's right. Yeah, uh, and

2469
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:29,200
Speaker 1: yeah it was. It was a different different, different, different,

2470
02:01:29,480 --> 02:01:31,320
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it was better or worse. I'm

2471
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:32,680
Speaker 1: not going to go back that for but it was

2472
02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:35,280
Speaker 1: in its own way. I mean, it was every bit

2473
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:39,760
Speaker 1: you know the game it is today, and people loved

2474
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:42,880
Speaker 1: it just as much. All Right, Hey, this year's as

2475
02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:45,200
Speaker 1: the league I got drafted into. Huh, that's the league

2476
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:48,680
Speaker 1: I kind of grew up with great, great, great memories.

2477
02:01:48,920 --> 02:01:52,840
Speaker 1: All right. Twenty nineteen season Josh Allen? What that's our

2478
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:55,480
Speaker 1: Twitter poll today? What where rather what we see the

2479
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:58,400
Speaker 1: most improvement from quarterback? Josh Allen on Twitter. We've had

2480
02:01:58,440 --> 02:02:00,360
Speaker 1: pretty good response to this, and we could continue to

2481
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 1: take your responses on Twitter. Where will we see the

2482
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:06,240
Speaker 1: most improvement from Bill's quarterback? Josh Allen in twenty nineteen.

2483
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:09,120
Speaker 1: We got eleven hundred votes in so far, and thirty

2484
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:10,960
Speaker 1: nine percent of you say we'll see the most improvement

2485
02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:14,040
Speaker 1: in his decision making good smart. I agree with it,

2486
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:17,160
Speaker 1: thirty two percent say wins. I won't disagree with that,

2487
02:02:17,240 --> 02:02:20,440
Speaker 1: Twenty six percent say passing stats, okay, three percent of

2488
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:22,320
Speaker 1: something else in mind. Let us know what you think

2489
02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:25,360
Speaker 1: eight three fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

2490
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:28,720
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty voting to Twitter pollers, send us

2491
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:30,880
Speaker 1: a tweet. We've got the tweet sheet here, brought to

2492
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:33,840
Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the

2493
02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:37,840
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. From Jordan. He tweets and I voted other

2494
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:41,360
Speaker 1: early season preparation. I think the only way the Bills

2495
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:43,480
Speaker 1: make the playoffs is to come out with a hot

2496
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:45,640
Speaker 1: start and rack up wins. When the schedule is softer,

2497
02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:48,240
Speaker 1: Josh will be much more prepared for battle at the

2498
02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:51,520
Speaker 1: beginning of twenty nineteen than he was at twenty eighteen.

2499
02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 1: Go Bills, Well, Jordan, Yeah, I think he will be.

2500
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a rookie last year, but I don't

2501
02:02:56,600 --> 02:02:58,880
Speaker 1: know if he'll be better at the beginning of the

2502
02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:00,600
Speaker 1: season than he will at the end of the season.

2503
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean, every game is another game of improvement. Um,

2504
02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've looked at the schedule, and

2505
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can definitively say the schedule

2506
02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:11,000
Speaker 1: is softer at the beginning. Are you on board with that?

2507
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 1: Steve do we tell we're looking at it right here.

2508
02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:18,200
Speaker 1: But it's you know, start with two road games, Jets, Giants,

2509
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:20,760
Speaker 1: come back for the Bengals. Yeah, okay, I mean you can.

2510
02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:23,160
Speaker 1: There's no question the Bills have got a chance in

2511
02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:24,960
Speaker 1: all three of those games. You gotta play the Patriots

2512
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:27,320
Speaker 1: and you know, you don't know what they're gonna look like,

2513
02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:29,200
Speaker 1: but you gotta think they're gonna be pretty good. They

2514
02:03:29,240 --> 02:03:32,040
Speaker 1: always are. Then you got Tennessee and then it's the

2515
02:03:32,120 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 1: bye week. So there's five games before the bye week,

2516
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:37,760
Speaker 1: and you've got to think that the Bills are gonna

2517
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:41,000
Speaker 1: think that they're gonna be pretty good in those games.

2518
02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna have a shot. We're gonna find

2519
02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:44,360
Speaker 1: out a lot about them. But the Bills have got

2520
02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:46,760
Speaker 1: to find it together, put it together as well. You

2521
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:49,480
Speaker 1: gotta think the Bills are not gonna be razors sharp

2522
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:51,280
Speaker 1: to begin like everybody else. You know, you kind of

2523
02:03:51,320 --> 02:03:54,360
Speaker 1: find yourself. It's a new team. The final I remember

2524
02:03:54,440 --> 02:03:56,560
Speaker 1: what it's like and we're gonna be there in a

2525
02:03:56,640 --> 02:03:59,040
Speaker 1: couple of months. Where you go through training camp, you

2526
02:03:59,120 --> 02:04:01,520
Speaker 1: got ninety names and you see guys flash and you

2527
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:03,160
Speaker 1: see them do things. In the beginning of the camp

2528
02:04:03,200 --> 02:04:05,280
Speaker 1: and guy see a guy that struggles in the beginning

2529
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:06,880
Speaker 1: of the camp, and then they reverse places, and at

2530
02:04:06,920 --> 02:04:08,840
Speaker 1: the end of the camp, this guy's playing great and

2531
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:11,480
Speaker 1: the other guy's kind of plateaued or falling off. And

2532
02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:13,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they get these fifty three guys

2533
02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:16,120
Speaker 1: on the roster, and there's a couple of surprises always.

2534
02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:18,360
Speaker 1: And when you take the field an opening day against

2535
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:21,680
Speaker 1: the Jets, you're feeling it out a little bit. You

2536
02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:24,040
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what you're gonna do, how your guys

2537
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:26,680
Speaker 1: are gonna play well, how it's gonna come together. You're

2538
02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:29,600
Speaker 1: gonna get rushes from the Jets that you haven't seen

2539
02:04:29,680 --> 02:04:32,320
Speaker 1: in the preseason, and this brand new offensive line is

2540
02:04:32,320 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 1: gonna have to handle it. Maybe they will, and maybe

2541
02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:37,640
Speaker 1: they'll struggle a little bit to get going. So yes,

2542
02:04:37,760 --> 02:04:39,920
Speaker 1: first month and a half of the season up until

2543
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:44,320
Speaker 1: the bye week, Jets, Giants, Bengals, Patriots, Titans. Is that

2544
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:47,560
Speaker 1: easier than the end? I don't know. Am I supposed

2545
02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:49,200
Speaker 1: to know that? Am I missing something here? Well? We

2546
02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:50,680
Speaker 1: don't know how the other teams are gonna be. No.

2547
02:04:50,760 --> 02:04:55,360
Speaker 1: I know Steelers, I respect Patriots, certainly respect Ravens. I

2548
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:58,840
Speaker 1: respect playoff team last year, Cowboys and Cowboys on Giving.

2549
02:04:58,920 --> 02:05:02,720
Speaker 1: You thinking that's easier waltz into on Thanksgiving. Nope, not

2550
02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:04,920
Speaker 1: gonna be easy. Nothing gonna be talking about. I mean,

2551
02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:08,200
Speaker 1: it's the NFL. Man, it's hard to win. It is hard.

2552
02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:09,720
Speaker 1: You don't want it to be easy. And you gotta

2553
02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:14,120
Speaker 1: stay healthy too. God, you know this. I do it

2554
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:16,120
Speaker 1: all the time, and everybody does it. You sit here

2555
02:05:16,120 --> 02:05:20,680
Speaker 1: and try and and you equate the schedule this year

2556
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:24,160
Speaker 1: with how these teams played last year, while all the

2557
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:26,960
Speaker 1: while saying your team's gonna be much different and much

2558
02:05:27,000 --> 02:05:29,920
Speaker 1: improved than last year, and you forget that every other

2559
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:32,000
Speaker 1: team on your schedule is thinking the exact same thing.

2560
02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:36,200
Speaker 1: So you know, take your you can you can roll

2561
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:38,480
Speaker 1: the dice if you want, and try and prognosticate what's

2562
02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:40,160
Speaker 1: going to happen in that schedule. Yeah, there's just no

2563
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:42,200
Speaker 1: way to do it. Hey, it's time down for NFL

2564
02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:44,879
Speaker 1: True and False. It has brought to you by Yancey's,

2565
02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:47,640
Speaker 1: Fancy New York's artists and Cheese. Here we go a

2566
02:05:47,720 --> 02:05:50,120
Speaker 1: couple of interesting ones today on NFL True or False?

2567
02:05:50,120 --> 02:05:53,280
Speaker 1: Are you ready? How's this? From Good Morning Football Today,

2568
02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:56,960
Speaker 1: NFL Network Ezekiel Elliott is the most likely running back

2569
02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:59,680
Speaker 1: to get two thousand or more rushing yards this year. Ezekiel,

2570
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:03,480
Speaker 1: It that's Kay Adams, Ned Burlison, cow Brandt brand had

2571
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:07,360
Speaker 1: Ezegiel Elliott, Burlison had, Sequon Barkley, Kay Adams Head, DeVante Freeman.

2572
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm going with Sequon Barkley. Look, I don't I don't

2573
02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:13,240
Speaker 1: think anybody's gonna get two thousands. Somebody might, and if

2574
02:06:13,280 --> 02:06:15,160
Speaker 1: they do, I think it would be sae Quon Barkley.

2575
02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:17,640
Speaker 1: Just because of who the Giants are and because of

2576
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:19,840
Speaker 1: who he is, as young as he is and as

2577
02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:22,200
Speaker 1: strong as he is. I'm going sae Quon Barkley's the

2578
02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:24,600
Speaker 1: most most likely to get two thousand and more rushing yards.

2579
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:26,720
Speaker 1: I don't think he will. I'll say it's true because

2580
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:29,480
Speaker 1: you're I'm right with you with sae Quon Barkley. But

2581
02:06:29,600 --> 02:06:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't think the New York Giants are in the

2582
02:06:31,480 --> 02:06:34,000
Speaker 1: same predicament that the Dallas Cowboys are in. I like,

2583
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:38,160
Speaker 1: call me crazy. I like the Giants' ability to depend

2584
02:06:38,240 --> 02:06:40,640
Speaker 1: on Eli Manning more than I think the Cowboys will

2585
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:43,360
Speaker 1: depend on Dak Prescott. I think the Cowboys are more

2586
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:46,800
Speaker 1: committed to running the football at this point in history

2587
02:06:47,720 --> 02:06:52,640
Speaker 1: than the Giants. I think that. I think Dak Prescott

2588
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:55,840
Speaker 1: is not as good as Eli Manning to meet right now.

2589
02:06:57,200 --> 02:06:59,920
Speaker 1: There's no question he's better physically, Yeah, but I don't

2590
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:03,600
Speaker 1: think the team will let him carry the carry the load.

2591
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:06,920
Speaker 1: I think they depend on Zeke Elliott more than any

2592
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:09,440
Speaker 1: other team does on their running back. And I think

2593
02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:11,440
Speaker 1: for that reason, he's going to get the opportunity, and

2594
02:07:11,480 --> 02:07:13,560
Speaker 1: if he gets the opportunity, that means he's more likely.

2595
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:15,680
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. So I say it's true. Here's

2596
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:18,720
Speaker 1: one that comes from USA Today, ready too or false?

2597
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:21,920
Speaker 1: Apart Two, The Rams are the most complete team in

2598
02:07:21,920 --> 02:07:24,400
Speaker 1: the NFL. That's what Marshall Fox says his quote. I

2599
02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:26,240
Speaker 1: think they are the most complete team in the league.

2600
02:07:26,280 --> 02:07:28,600
Speaker 1: When you look at him top to bottom and you're

2601
02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 1: throwing the experience what they went through last year getting

2602
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. He says, they're the ones, the Rams,

2603
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:35,720
Speaker 1: the most complete team in the NFL. They're very very

2604
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:40,839
Speaker 1: very good. Rams are very good. Most complete team Saints.

2605
02:07:41,280 --> 02:07:43,320
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm gonna go false on this because I can

2606
02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:46,040
Speaker 1: find a couple of Saints and maybe even the Chargers

2607
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:49,200
Speaker 1: are more complete. What do you think? That's exactly who

2608
02:07:49,240 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 1: I put it. Yeah, they are a good team, no

2609
02:07:51,080 --> 02:07:52,840
Speaker 1: question about it. You know, they went out and got

2610
02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:57,520
Speaker 1: some really good corners last year. They've got Aaron Donald

2611
02:07:57,600 --> 02:07:59,840
Speaker 1: in the middle, They've got you know, their defense runs well,

2612
02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:04,040
Speaker 1: They've they've Cooper Cup will be back this year. Todd

2613
02:08:04,160 --> 02:08:06,760
Speaker 1: Gurley got Yeah, they are a very good team. But

2614
02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:08,400
Speaker 1: you can make a case for other teams too. And

2615
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:11,080
Speaker 1: the ones you mentioned are the obvious ones, New Orleans

2616
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:15,280
Speaker 1: Saints and the Los Angeles Chargers. I think though both

2617
02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:19,600
Speaker 1: those teams are very good, very deep. Um, so yeah,

2618
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:21,240
Speaker 1: I think there are other teams out there. Make a

2619
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:23,520
Speaker 1: case for the Rams, But to say they are, I

2620
02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:26,840
Speaker 1: don't think he can one more. This one's kind of silly.

2621
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:30,720
Speaker 1: NFL true or false, So MMQB has bad takes week.

2622
02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:33,840
Speaker 1: In fact, we were talking earlier in the show about

2623
02:08:35,240 --> 02:08:37,960
Speaker 1: about the proposal for overtime to base it on the

2624
02:08:38,080 --> 02:08:40,680
Speaker 1: total yards in the game. Right from Andy Benoit. One

2625
02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:43,720
Speaker 1: of their bad takes on MMQB, the NFL should make

2626
02:08:43,760 --> 02:08:48,760
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl a flag football game. True or false?

2627
02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you go knock it out of the park,

2628
02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:53,560
Speaker 1: go ahead. I don't know what to do if that's

2629
02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:56,400
Speaker 1: even on the table, I think that where that's what

2630
02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:58,960
Speaker 1: they should do with. I say that's dumb. It's not

2631
02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 1: true or false. It is dumb. That's dumb. And I'm

2632
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:05,480
Speaker 1: not saying that the Pro Bowl is an entity worth saving,

2633
02:09:05,560 --> 02:09:08,640
Speaker 1: that it's this sacra sank piece of American history that

2634
02:09:09,120 --> 02:09:12,200
Speaker 1: like the World Series and apple Pie and all that. No,

2635
02:09:12,640 --> 02:09:14,360
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl is an all star game for a

2636
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:16,680
Speaker 1: game that is too that is too rough and rugged

2637
02:09:16,720 --> 02:09:19,080
Speaker 1: to play a real game for nothing, So there's no

2638
02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:22,920
Speaker 1: reason to do it the way for real. But yeah,

2639
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:26,160
Speaker 1: flag football game. No, they need to change it. They

2640
02:09:26,200 --> 02:09:27,720
Speaker 1: need to tweak it. They need to do some things

2641
02:09:27,760 --> 02:09:29,200
Speaker 1: to it, and need to make it a different event

2642
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:31,160
Speaker 1: or do away with it completely. But to make it

2643
02:09:31,200 --> 02:09:34,320
Speaker 1: a flag football game. Spare me so we don't have

2644
02:09:34,360 --> 02:09:37,000
Speaker 1: to say true or false. You said dumb dumb? True

2645
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:39,800
Speaker 1: false are dumb. I'm gonna say, moot. Doesn't matter what

2646
02:09:39,920 --> 02:09:41,480
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl is, what kind of game it is,

2647
02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:45,120
Speaker 1: do everything you need to do there, Honor the great

2648
02:09:45,160 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 1: players from around the league, put them in quasi athletic competitions.

2649
02:09:49,360 --> 02:09:51,320
Speaker 1: Don't bother the line it up and playing a football game.

2650
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:54,760
Speaker 1: Remember the old television showed all stars. Yeah, that's what

2651
02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:56,600
Speaker 1: they were, That's what they should great with that. I

2652
02:09:56,640 --> 02:09:59,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't watch it, but go ahead, I wouldn't want it either.

2653
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:01,880
Speaker 1: He's a good point by you. Yeah, I'm not watching anything,

2654
02:10:01,960 --> 02:10:04,840
Speaker 1: but yeah, NFL tur or False brought to you by

2655
02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:07,600
Speaker 1: Yancey's Fancy New York's artists in chief Steve and I'm

2656
02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:09,600
Speaker 1: back with more in a moment. One Bill's Live, presented

2657
02:10:09,640 --> 02:10:12,520
Speaker 1: by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

2658
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:28,800
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. So what have we learned? Presented by Advanced

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Speaker 1: Alarm providing Western New York's homes and businesses with the

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Speaker 1: Finance and Security and Home Theater the preferred alarm and

2661
02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:37,280
Speaker 1: home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. We hade an

2662
02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:40,120
Speaker 1: interesting show today, pretty good show in Indy Benoit on

2663
02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:43,400
Speaker 1: from MMQB and Sports Illustrated dot Com and we asked

2664
02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:46,400
Speaker 1: him about this weird competition committee move. Now going back

2665
02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:49,640
Speaker 1: to the owners to talk more about using the instant replay.

2666
02:10:49,680 --> 02:10:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm pass interference. Here's when Indy Benoit thinks about that.

2667
02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:57,520
Speaker 1: I think coaches wants to play reviewable, but they don't

2668
02:10:57,560 --> 02:11:00,320
Speaker 1: want to be responsible for challenging it, because that's just

2669
02:11:00,440 --> 02:11:02,000
Speaker 1: gonna for one, that will lead to a lot of

2670
02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:04,840
Speaker 1: superfluous challenges because coaches will say, well, we have nothing

2671
02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:07,560
Speaker 1: to lose in the final three minutes of the game here,

2672
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:10,800
Speaker 1: and I think teams would start really using all of

2673
02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:13,600
Speaker 1: their challenges, which does not happen now. Challenges Now, I

2674
02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:17,360
Speaker 1: think I coach chooses point seven challenges a game, and

2675
02:11:17,520 --> 02:11:20,080
Speaker 1: already those feel like they're disrupting the flow of the game.

2676
02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:23,480
Speaker 1: So imagine if point seven jumped to two challenges, that's

2677
02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:28,200
Speaker 1: almost a threefold increase. They want that pass interference to

2678
02:11:28,360 --> 02:11:30,680
Speaker 1: be judged just like the same way like an illegal

2679
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:33,320
Speaker 1: hit is judged as a guy wrap up in the

2680
02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:36,240
Speaker 1: bootho flag down or whistle down. If they see an

2681
02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:38,760
Speaker 1: illegal hit and of fifteen yard pills, he can be

2682
02:11:38,840 --> 02:11:40,400
Speaker 1: a step. I think they want to be something like that.

2683
02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:45,640
Speaker 1: Right there, you go that, Andy Benoit. We also had

2684
02:11:45,720 --> 02:11:47,880
Speaker 1: Jerry Butler on the show earlier this hour, former Bills

2685
02:11:47,960 --> 02:11:50,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver. He came in with a couple of other

2686
02:11:50,120 --> 02:11:53,120
Speaker 1: alums to talk to Bill's rookies, and Jerry Butler told

2687
02:11:53,200 --> 02:11:56,200
Speaker 1: us what his message was to the Bills twenty nineteen

2688
02:11:56,280 --> 02:12:00,960
Speaker 1: rookie class. Oh my god, Yes, and just to see

2689
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:04,120
Speaker 1: their bright young faces and uh, the way they just

2690
02:12:04,240 --> 02:12:06,400
Speaker 1: look at you like they want to hear the inside

2691
02:12:06,480 --> 02:12:08,880
Speaker 1: skinny on things because I know exactly what they're thinking

2692
02:12:08,960 --> 02:12:12,600
Speaker 1: from that seat. Uh. I've had a footprint and player

2693
02:12:12,680 --> 02:12:16,160
Speaker 1: engagement in player development for over thirty years, and uh,

2694
02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:18,520
Speaker 1: I kind of know as much about it as anyone

2695
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:20,680
Speaker 1: needs to know about it. And so that's a great

2696
02:12:20,720 --> 02:12:25,760
Speaker 1: opportunity when alumni can come back and really really talk

2697
02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:29,480
Speaker 1: to them and they can experience the energy, the knowledge,

2698
02:12:29,520 --> 02:12:31,960
Speaker 1: the wisdom that comes from that. And it's a great

2699
02:12:32,040 --> 02:12:34,800
Speaker 1: thing to have the opportunity to do that. Jerry but

2700
02:12:34,840 --> 02:12:36,960
Speaker 1: I can't think of a really too many better allum

2701
02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:39,680
Speaker 1: us to come back and talk about the NFL life.

2702
02:12:39,720 --> 02:12:43,200
Speaker 1: And Jerry Butler, He's played, coached, has been involved in

2703
02:12:43,320 --> 02:12:49,320
Speaker 1: the player avalue, illustration, scouting, got a full resume and

2704
02:12:49,400 --> 02:12:53,600
Speaker 1: a great player MANI camp tomorrow mandatory, you we have

2705
02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:56,160
Speaker 1: to be here tomorrow, because well every day's mandatory for us.

2706
02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:58,560
Speaker 1: But yep, I don't know, and I wish I could

2707
02:12:58,640 --> 02:13:00,720
Speaker 1: sell it and say this it's gonna be. But it's

2708
02:13:00,720 --> 02:13:02,160
Speaker 1: a lot like what they've been doing for the last

2709
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:04,760
Speaker 1: three weeks in OTAs not much we'll change tomorrow. Still,

2710
02:13:04,760 --> 02:13:07,400
Speaker 1: it's it's valuable. There's only three practices left. But I

2711
02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:09,480
Speaker 1: don't look for things to look that much different tomorrow. No,

2712
02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:12,360
Speaker 1: they've had They've had almost a hundred, if not one

2713
02:13:12,440 --> 02:13:15,000
Speaker 1: hundred percent every day they if a guy was here,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't because he wasn't here. It was because of

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Speaker 1: a personal issue or whatever, some family stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: They were here everybody. So it isn't going to be

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Speaker 1: that much different except the fact that and plus it's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna be closed. So I gotta say I like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't do our show any good because

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Speaker 1: we can't isn't open. I think all three like it.

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Speaker 1: When they close that thing off, it means they've got

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Speaker 1: something at their sleeve. It makes me feel good about

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Speaker 1: their planning. Um, it'll be interesting to see who's playing where.

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Speaker 1: That might be the biggest who we can get. And

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Speaker 1: we'll get some of that from Chris Brown tomorrow. Also,

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Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey, the Bill's new quarterbacks coach, schedule, joined us

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Speaker 1: tomorrow as well. After the mini camp session, we want

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Speaker 1: to thank our production assistance, George Blast, Jeff Coltonick Thomas, Donald,

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Speaker 1: or Kelly Rude, j j Teredo, Kevin Cartis, James Robot,

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Speaker 1: Our producer Jay Harris, Steve and I'm back for the

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Speaker 1: first day of Mini Camp Tomorrow, twelve noon, One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalada Health. From One Bill's Drive, This

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio.