1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Here's Mark Rumbo joining us on FT on a huge day. 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Halo Territory was just announced as the newest addition to 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: the Foul Territory network. Mark, great to have you on 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: the show. Congrats on being part of the newest show 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: and what can you tell us about it? 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm happy to eddy opportunity to do something 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: and ample free time as I guess a lot of 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: ex players tend to have, and this made a lot 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: of sense, so I said, you know, I think I 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 2: have something to contribute. At least. I watch a lot 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: of the games the Angels have played, for better or 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 2: worse in the last few years, so I am familiar 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: with the cummings and goings, and I think with my 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: co host Mike di Giovanna, should be a good mix 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: and hopefully the fans enjoy what we're able to provide. 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: Hey, give us a little taste of the first episode, 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: right so it's up there now, it's on the U 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: tube channel podcast as well. Give us a taste of 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: what the first episode is about, and also just to 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: mix in your thoughts on the Angels offseason so far. 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: I think the first episode basically covers what you just asked. 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: We kind of highlighted a few of the guys that 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: they've brought into the fold, some areas of need, and 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: you know, kind of just trying to paint a picture 25 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: of where this franchise is, where they're possibly headed or not. 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 2: And I know, you know, a lot of fans see 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: some of the big names remaining and think that, you know, 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: they'd be an excellent fit, Cody Bellinger being one of them. 29 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: But I don't think there's a lot of logic in 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: saying that he, you know, is probable. As much as 31 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: some people might like him, They need a center fielder. 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: You know, he provides excellent defense in a left handed bat, 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: which is also needed. Third base is a position that's 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: up in the air as well. They might have Christin 35 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: Moore start there, but he's another guy that's been you know, 36 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: to the big leagues, along with a few others. Netto 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: has panned out way better than most, But you know, 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: these guys are still learning on the fly, which I 39 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: think is incredibly tough, and it's kind of a new 40 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: thing because it's it's not the way it was. You 41 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 2: know when I was coming up and with AJ and 42 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: Eric as well, I'm sure you know you got ample 43 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: seasoning in the lower levels and then you know you were, 44 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: you know, prepared when you got up and I'm sure 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: you might be exposed to a few things, but some 46 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: of these guys are literally learning on the fly. And 47 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: I think that's part of what I was hearing last 48 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: year with the culture of the clubhouse. It was, you know, 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: maybe not what a veteran player would be as interested in, 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: with more of a classroom learning environment going on daily 51 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: talking about base running for twenty minutes. I know personally 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: that you know, wouldn't be something as a free agent 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: I would be interested in. So I think it's going 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: to be a lot better with the coaching staff they 55 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: brought in, and I think that's probably the biggest highlight 56 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: so far is some of the names they were able 57 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: to bring in, and they're kind of contrary to the 58 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: other hirings going on around the league. A lot of 59 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: ex players and a lot of guys with a lot 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: of experience. So maybe you guys can can give your 61 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: thoughts on that too. With John Gibbons and Brady Anderson 62 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: and Maddox and some of the other guys. 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: I want to see, I want to see what you 64 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: you said, you said, you watch this team all the time. 65 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: What did you see from this team? Not not like 66 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: the behind the scenes stuff like you were just talking 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: about how they were young, they got to talk about 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 3: like how to run the first base and the big 69 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: leagues and all that kind of stuff. But what did 70 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: you see on a night in a night out basis 71 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: that made you go like, this team just is not 72 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: like they need a little bit more time in Triple 73 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: A or they have this guy out of position. 74 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: Well that that playing out of position is one of 75 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: the biggest things. When you have an infielder in the outfield, 76 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: they're going to get exposed. And it's not the player's fault. 77 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: I was someone who roamed around a bit. You know, 78 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: they're opinions on my defense, which I would probably agree 79 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: with them for the most part. But it's a tall 80 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: task if you're you know, completely used to playing middle 81 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: infield and you're thrust out into right field. Ring GIFO 82 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: is the guy I'm kind of referring to here, What 83 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: are realistic expectations of a guy? I mean, it's it's 84 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: kind of ludicrous to think he's gonna, you know, be 85 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: a seamless fit. But I saw a team that had 86 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: some moments, but inevitably, you know, once the All Star 87 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: break kind of came around, it only went one way, 88 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: and by September completely out of it, you know, with 89 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: injuries mounting, and it just wasn't it wasn't an op 90 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: you know for fans. I don't know. I think there's 91 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: pretty much two camps. Those that are eternally optimistic and 92 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: always hope for the best, I guess, and I think 93 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: most probably fall into the slightly skeptical, if not totally 94 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: cynical range, where there wondering what is the direction? You know, 95 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: A lot of relievers signed this winter. Thirty five years 96 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: and older. Drew Pomerance I think was actually an excellent sign. 97 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: You know, from facing him. He is a very tough 98 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: at bat, and he's still you know, it seems to 99 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: not really age. So that's a great addition. Grayson Rodriguez 100 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: should be a very nice fit if healthy. And then 101 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: you got some flyers with Manoa and Romano amongst others. 102 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: All right, sorry, I just I thought I thought we 103 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: were Are we showing these off? 104 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 5: Just just me and just Crat you have one of these, 105 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 5: because just Mark, hang off, Just hang on, I'm Mark 106 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 5: and I we're showing these off right, Oh, sorry. 107 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: I can't reach mine. Oh actually I wasn't good enough 108 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: to hit to get one. 109 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 5: So anyway, I didn't know we were showing that Marquez 110 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 5: is behind him, so I'm just oh, I didn't know 111 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 5: the yeah that I was just Oh, that silver bat 112 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 5: thing that he has, Yeah, we have one of those 113 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 5: on the set. 114 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: Too, Mark, I guess if you know, you know, I 115 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: don't have a ton of. 116 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 4: They won't even let them on this. They won't even 117 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: let me put mine on the set. 118 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: I had to ask one of our guys behind the 119 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 5: scenes to bring mine to me, so I'm not even 120 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 5: allowed to show mine off. 121 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad it's there, though a little bit reflective, 122 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: but you know it's nice. 123 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: We all don't have a camera like you do that 124 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: tell the podcast c because people. 125 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: Sorry. 126 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 5: Later, Mark has a Silver Slugger behind him, so I 127 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 5: had to get Michael Beard to get mine. He gah 128 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 5: socks on too. For those women out there that are wondering, Yes, 129 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 5: he has sucks anymore. 130 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: He doesn't sleep, but silver Slugger two time All Star 131 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: forty seven homers was the season high. They had a 132 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: nice three times over thirty. 133 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 4: Very nice career, very nice career mark. 134 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 5: But here's my question for the for Angels fans out there, 135 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 5: and you watch the Angels much more than I do. 136 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 4: Can they find enough pitching? Ever? Can they ever find 137 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: enough pitching? 138 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 5: It's always like, gosh, we have these position players, we 139 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 5: have this, we have that, and then they never and 140 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 5: then when they try to sign a picture it's a 141 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 5: short term deal. It doesn't seem like it works out. 142 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 5: Can the Angels ever find pitching enough to get them 143 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 5: back into this race in the Al West? 144 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: Well? I mean, how do you where do pictures come from? 145 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: You either develop them, which they've you know, a very 146 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: poor track record, if I'm being honest, I think that 147 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: when I was there it was slightly better, but it 148 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: was never really a strength. Some organizations just churn them out. Tampa, 149 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: the Braves, you know, others that come to mind, and 150 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: you kind of wonder, you know, especially when you're coming 151 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 2: up with an organization, where are they finding these guys? 152 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: Or you know, why are they so hard to hit? 153 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: And I think with the advanced metrics data and everything else, 154 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: now it's becoming clear at least some of the you know, 155 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: secrets to what has been going on there hitting is 156 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: still you know, the wild West, although I see guys 157 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: going to various instructors in the off season that are 158 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: popular currently. But the other way to do it is 159 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: to free agents, and you've got to pay to play. Unfortunately, 160 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 2: I believe Kakuchi was, says C. J. Well, I mean CJ. 161 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: Wilson was, to my memory, was the last guy that 162 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: signed for significant money, and then Kakuchi got a three 163 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: year deal for sixty seven million ish, you know, so 164 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: beyond that, if you go cheap, you get what you get, 165 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: and sometimes it works out, but most of the time 166 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: it doesn't. Always you know what the fans are looking for, 167 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: and when you take flyers, you're putting a lot of 168 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: pressure on the pitching coach to sometimes work magic. In 169 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: the case of a Kirby Yates, you know, there's a 170 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: lot of history with him in mathematics, so I think 171 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: that's another good one. But as far as starting pitching, 172 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: you know, especially with injuries, I think last year they 173 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: were very fortunate. They had a lot of health, and 174 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: you know, they have some guys with some good stuff. Soriano. 175 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of read Debt Meers and you 176 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: know a few others, but they're still lacking significantly when 177 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: compared to you know, the Dodgers, Blue Jays and others. 178 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: A man team that spends some money. You kind of 179 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: mentioned it. The Angels should be a destination, Mike, who 180 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: doesn't want to go to southern California and play there 181 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: and is way less pressure than if you went and 182 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: played for the Dodgers. Not that pressure is a bad thing. 183 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, free agent wise, shouldn't they be able 184 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: to make Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, of southern California 185 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: a destination for free agents to go to? 186 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: It once was, and you know, not that long ago, 187 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: living near the beach. There's nothing not to like, guys. 188 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: You know that part of it is always a plus, 189 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: But it is very hard to convince a guy that 190 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: has options, especially you know, if you have four or 191 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: five different teams that are interested in willing to offer 192 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: similarish money, why would you go to one that you 193 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: know is unfortunately probably going to be out of it 194 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: after the All Star break. That can make for an 195 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: incredibly long year. I think that that's the biggest thing 196 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: in my mind. And then you're going to have to deal, 197 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: you know, if you have a no trade clause, then 198 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: you can have more control over that, but you're probably 199 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: going to be somebody that's dangled out there and could 200 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: be going somewhere that you really don't want to or 201 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: somewhere that's better. So I think it starts with coming 202 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: up with a team that's at least capable of finishing 203 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: five hundred and then building from there. I don't see 204 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: the current talent being capable of much better than that. 205 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: I could be very surprised, and I'll eat my words 206 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: if so, but I think five hundred would be, you know, 207 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: a goal. That is it realistic? I hope it is, 208 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: and I'm sure on their end they think of it 209 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: that it is. But as far as a playoff team, 210 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: I think there's still quite a ways away. 211 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 5: It's just such amazing to hear me say this, because 212 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 5: I mean, when I came up to the Angels, they 213 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 5: want a World Series. I lost them in the LCS 214 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 5: in two thousand and two, and every year they were 215 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 5: in the playoffs, in the playoff on just they were. 216 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 5: She went to Anaheim and they had the thundersticks in 217 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 5: the rally. It was like, man, it was. It was 218 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 5: just a tough team to play against. For all those years, 219 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 5: So to hear you say what you're saying for all 220 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 5: these years and not being in the playoffs, just it 221 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 5: kind of breaks my heart a little bit, even though 222 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 5: the Angels fans don't exactly love me. 223 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 4: But my question for you is what of the young 224 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 4: guys can take the next step? 225 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: Mark? 226 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 5: Is it Netto that continues to get is it Shannewell? 227 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 5: Is it Christian Moore? Do we have a HOPI take, 228 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 5: you know, take a giant lead forward. Who's the guy 229 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 5: that you would put your money on to take the 230 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 5: next step and become a star? 231 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: Netto already is a borderline one. I mean, if you 232 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: look at some of the you know, war is not 233 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 2: my favorite step, but I know it's you know, I 234 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: people understand some of it at least. But you know, 235 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: he ranks extremely highly. You know, he can do a lot. 236 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 2: I at first, probably like most a guy that's thrust 237 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: into the big leagues that quick, who knows, you know, 238 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: it's sink or swim, And he's more than held his own. 239 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 2: I think that there's you know, a few incidents where 240 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: his emotions can get the better of him. So I 241 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: think that that's one area he can continue to work 242 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: on and develop, you know, some more leadership. I think 243 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: o'hapi is a very interesting one to me. He shows 244 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: signs of someone who could be a perennial All Star, 245 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 2: and in the next breath it seems like either he loses, 246 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: you know, a little bit of confidence or something happens 247 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: in the game, you know it. Unfortunately last year it 248 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: wasn't a pretty pitcher on both sides of the ball. 249 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: I know it was catching was something he was very 250 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: focused on in AJA. Well, both of you guys can 251 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: probably expand upon that, but I think it's it's got 252 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: to be incredibly hard if you know that you rate 253 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: very poorly defensively in the framing department, you know, and 254 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: pitch calling and other things, and you're trying to make 255 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 2: that better all the while produce at at a high 256 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: level on offense. And it seemed like it was just 257 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: a too tall a task. And I know I saw 258 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: some interviews at the end where he was going to 259 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: cut out some of the noise and hopefully get back to, 260 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: you know, what he trusts to work. Channewell is a 261 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: guy that's I think we kind of know what we're 262 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: going to get out of him. I have seen improvements 263 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: on defense, which is nice. He's not going to hit 264 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: that many home runs, there's no other way to put it. 265 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: I think he's explored that. But the best version of 266 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: him is going to be probably twelve to fifteen home 267 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 2: runs and getting on base. Although he's you know, not 268 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: gifted with foot speed like most guys that are table setters, 269 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 2: but that is his game. Christian Moore is kind of 270 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 2: an unknown. He very athletic, you know, obviously a high 271 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: draft pick. It seems like he's got a lot of 272 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: pop in the bat, but from when I saw last year, 273 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: he changed his stance multiple times, so I don't know 274 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: if that was his decision or or someone else's. And 275 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: when he got, you know, some chances in the big leagues, 276 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: it didn't look like the game sped up on him. 277 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: But I don't think he was able to really showcase 278 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: his talent all that much either. 279 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: All right, now that you got your own show, everybody's 280 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: gonna want to know Mike Trout when you hear that 281 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 3: name and when you watch this team and when you 282 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: think back to your ex teammate, you guys are both 283 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: young in the big leagues. Obviously, he's a few years 284 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: younger than you. What do you see not only from 285 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: his career before this season as the next step for 286 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: him to continue his ridiculous career. 287 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: Well, career wise, it speaks for itself. You know, even 288 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: when the team was not doing much, he was doing 289 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: a lot. And it's almost goofy to look at the 290 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: career numbers, and I mean I knew right away he 291 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: was light years better than me and light years better 292 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: than everyone else, you know, and you know, all the 293 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: while having an attitude of you know, just a playful, 294 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: you know, care free, not totally, but I just vividly 295 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: remember being stressed out of my mind in Oakland one day, 296 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: you know, not my best. Let's say I'm looking over 297 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: at him and just has this big smile, and I 298 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: was somewhat envious, like, yeah, you know, if I got 299 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: three hits and I'd probably be smiling too, But it 300 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: just seemed like the game came very easy. But he's 301 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: at a point now where unfortunately, these injuries have started 302 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: to compound and it's very tough. I know, he's got 303 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: a knee that isn't cooperating. It's probably as somebody that 304 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: had a big knee injury myself, I can kind of 305 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: testify that once it starts swelling on you. You know, 306 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: it's it's really a tough thing to manage. And you 307 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: want to go out there, you want to post, you 308 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: want to play, but the body might you know, it's 309 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: just a saying, it's it's not the way. As far 310 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: as outfield defense, again, here are some rumors that he 311 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: might be playing some center field. Last year, defense wasn't 312 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: a thing. They got a logjam with stillaire. I don't 313 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: see a fit for him on this ball club. So 314 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: maybe they're able to move him, or maybe they just 315 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: eat it. But you know, I have high hopes for Mike. 316 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: I know, he was a tremendous teammate to me. You know, 317 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: he's always been somewhat under the radar with the media 318 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: and whatnot, and I think he plays the game for 319 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: the right reasons and i'd love to see, you know, 320 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: a big resurgence one area. I'd really like to because 321 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: he's capable of so much. As the batting average, well 322 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: it might not be popular to everyone, I still think 323 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: it's incredibly important. And he's capable of hitting a lot 324 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: better than two thirty, so I think that, you know, 325 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: for him, i'd like to see that improve even if 326 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: nobody else cares. I think that that you know, you 327 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: don't want to look up there and see that when 328 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: you're a guy that's a career three hundred hitter. Maybe 329 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: I'm wrong, but you know, aj what do you think? 330 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 5: I agree, I'm a batting average guy, but it doesn't 331 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 5: matter that so much gets you paid. And you know what, Mark, 332 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 5: like you said you hate war. I'm also not a 333 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 5: huge war because no one can actually calculate or tell 334 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 5: you how it's calculating. There's different versions of it, and 335 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 5: it's like every person that we have on here, like 336 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 5: I don't really like works that when it gets you paid, right, 337 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 5: So hitting homers like you did it gets you paid. 338 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 5: So also you mentioned them eating Celaire's money, Like how 339 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 5: much money is already moreno gonna eat because he's eating 340 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 5: Rendon's money. Right, So man, if I'm already Morino, a'most 341 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 5: like I'm just I'm hungry. I'm eating all the money 342 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 5: of bad, bad players. 343 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 4: Do I mean? When you said that, I was like, oh, man, 344 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: I forgot he was even on the team. 345 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: Oh that's sixteen million. You know, I think I'd rather 346 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 2: just do it all at once. If if it were 347 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 2: me and it's not me for so but Rendon, that 348 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: didn't work at all, you think. I think I watched 349 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: this all the time, and I watched you know, various 350 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: versions of him. He came back, and the best version 351 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: was it was what it way. He was a singles hitter, 352 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: but he was getting on base and the defense was okay. 353 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: The arm looked a little, you know, it was passable, 354 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 2: but he was in there and he was contribute. But 355 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: for the most part, you know, just a shell of 356 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 2: the player he was for the Nationals, and I know 357 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: that's not what he wanted. I don't want to be 358 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: too hard on him, but I think it was also 359 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: tough because he was so averse to communicating with the media. 360 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 2: You know, various instances, you know, hostile, and that could 361 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 2: just be him, but I think he fell short in 362 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: that role or as a player. It's it's part of 363 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: the deal. You know, you have a great game, you 364 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: post it your locker and it's easy. And likewise, on 365 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 2: the flip side, you know, sometimes you got to be 366 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: accountable and you got to give an explanation, even if 367 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: it's not a topic you love, and he didn't do 368 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 2: much of that. So I think his memories are going 369 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: to be, you know, maybe the cast fighting. You know, 370 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: they get into a brawl one time, and then Oakland 371 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 2: Fan and some other things. And it's unfortunate because I 372 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: have heard that, you know, as a teammate, he does 373 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: do a very nice job. But for fans that are watching, 374 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: you don't. You can't really make sense of you know, 375 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 2: what he's about or what he's trying to do. 376 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 5: All right, Mark, by the way, you had, you had 377 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 5: an unbelievable career. You had, You had a great career. 378 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 5: You made a lot of money. But I have to 379 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 5: bring up one story with you, and you might not 380 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 5: even remember this, but I remember this story and it's 381 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 5: the only time in my career that this play actually worked. 382 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 5: You were on third and it was first and third, 383 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 5: and you guys tried the old double steel trick and 384 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 5: I did the old pump fake the second and you 385 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 5: actually broke And the only time in my long career 386 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 5: that it actually worked. You were trying to steal home 387 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 5: on the old first and third double steal with two 388 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 5: outs trick, and I did the pump fakes. So you 389 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 5: don't even remember this because you were like, why am 390 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 5: I trying to steal home. But for me, it was 391 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 5: like the greatest moment of my life because I did 392 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 5: the pump fake and you broke and we got you out, 393 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 5: and I'm like, I can't believe somebody fell for it. 394 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 4: So thank you. I'm just saying thank you because it was. Yeah. 395 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 4: I know, it's okay. You probably are like, what the 396 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 4: hell is he talking about? 397 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 2: But to me, it meant I think I think everybody 398 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: should experience as much as you can in the game. 399 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: And the fact that I was able to, I mean, 400 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 2: how many times did you probably practice that, you know, 401 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: throughout your. 402 00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: Wa all the time? 403 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 5: Man, That's what I'm saying. How many times in spring 404 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 5: training do you do the old pump fake? This is 405 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 5: never gonna freaking work. And then the one time it worked, 406 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 5: I was like, Wow, that actually did happen. 407 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: There are not many base running highlights. There are plenty 408 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 2: of low lights, but I thank you for reminding me. 409 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: One thing I briefly was laughing about earlier was first 410 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: got called up. We were playing you guys and playing 411 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: first base in Anaheim, and I heard somebody I was 412 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: playing and sure, yeah, I was nervous. But what really 413 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: helped was your manager at the time Assie had gone 414 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: all the way down to the end of the dugout 415 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: and was yelling at me, cat calling me, you know, 416 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: shaking visibly with his hands, saying I was nervous and 417 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: I was going to make an error, and I was like, 418 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: what in the world is this? And then I think 419 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: he took him at Hank Conger pretended he had a grenade. 420 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: I think he was talking about his throwing arm, and 421 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: you know, it was good fun. I think Hank and 422 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: his defense did throw out viscl who might have been 423 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: on the wrong side of forty by that point, but 424 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: you know it, I had a good time with that. 425 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: And it kind of was like, Okay, you know this 426 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: is a serious thing up here, but guys do still 427 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 2: have some fun, and you know they're going to give 428 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: it to you, so you better be able to take it. 429 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 430 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 5: It just it just got you ready for, you know, 431 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 5: visiting fans to get on, because even get on. 432 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 4: No manager does that anymore. 433 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 5: Oh no, God, managers sit there like this. Then they 434 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 5: look they look at their paper all the time. Every 435 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 5: every manager is like, do you think can't show anyone? 436 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 5: I want to know what's on the paper, conch coach. 437 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: They looked at you don't want to even look at Meanwhile, Oz, 438 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: he's like, hey Trumbo, you saw Trumbo. 439 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 4: You're nervous. 440 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 5: They probably called you by the wrong name too. He's 441 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 5: probably like, hey, Trumpet Tumbo. 442 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: It got the point across. I was going to pretend 443 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: they try and do the accent, but I don't think 444 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: anyone wants to really see that. Uh But you know, 445 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: at first, I was like, you know, I looked over 446 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: and he was staring dead at me. So I'm like, Okay, 447 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: this is obviously coming my way. You nervous, you know, 448 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, yeah I am, but you know, 449 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: uh so, And I think that might have been I 450 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 2: don't know if it was my first start, but it 451 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: could have been so welcome into the show. 452 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 4: You probably homered off of us later. No, like every 453 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 4: guy I was lucky to get. 454 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you know the following season that that 455 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 2: first call up, I was lucky to get hit on 456 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: my very last bat. It was one for fifteen or something, 457 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: so I didn't you know, you never know if there's 458 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: going to be another opportunity. So I think that that 459 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: memory stands out in Texas. You know, I think the 460 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: game had gotten away from them. At that point. But 461 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to have it that worked, I think. 462 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: But then the next season twenty nine homers, the next 463 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: season thirty two homers, the next season thirty four homers. 464 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 4: I think it worked out. 465 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: You figured it out, got you got unnervous, ohs plus is. 466 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: But well, well let's stay on the yeah, on the 467 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: offense and stuff. 468 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: Don't look will we'll keep hammering that. Hey, we're excited 469 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: about the show. We'll be listening. Welcome to the FT fan. 470 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Thank you guys, and thank you for 471 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: the memory. 472 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: Aj Off to go look that up that one digest 473 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: for the day, Mark Trumbone with us. 474 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: Thanks Gus. 475 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: Hey, there it is. The graphics are tight Halo Territory. 476 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: The contents even better. So look forward to hearing from Mike. Yeah, 477 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: and we have Sam Blum on the show frequently. He'll 478 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: definitely appear on there for some spots. So you'll get 479 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: it all with Halo Territory part of the FT Network