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Speaker 1: All right, welcome once again everybody to Big Blue Kickoff

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Speaker 1: live here on Giants dot Com. The number, as always,

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Speaker 1: the call is two oh one nine four five one three.

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Speaker 1: I am runs, uh not run Russ Salzburg Joan, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Well, you know what after a bye week,

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Speaker 1: everybody wants you know, it's a new start, joined today

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Speaker 1: by my colleague, former Super Bowl champion, uh Jeff Fiagels

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Speaker 1: of course, with your New York Football Giants. And you

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Speaker 1: tell me, because you were the player, what's it like

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Speaker 1: coming back? Let's you know, they are coming back from

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Speaker 1: the bye week. From a player's standpoint, is it like

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Speaker 1: I recharge my batteries? And obviously it's it's a little

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Speaker 1: different if you're coming back from seven and one as

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Speaker 1: opposed to one and seven. Yeah, there's two different, two

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Speaker 1: different coming back. Um, you're definitely refreshed, um and and

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Speaker 1: really it's it's you get away, you get your clear

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Speaker 1: your mind and stuff. But I think that some guys, um,

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Speaker 1: what do they have four days off and maybe five?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, um, but whatever, basically it's full. Sorry sorry,

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Speaker 1: let me clear my geez. What's going on here? This

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Speaker 1: is my computer? Excuse me? Guys, Um, hold on, there

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Speaker 1: it is. We'll just wait for you. Go ahead, maybe

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Speaker 1: we carry on. Okay, buddy, I got four days. Obviously

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Speaker 1: you didn't reach you. I don't know what happened here. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: so anyways to answer your question, I think it's some

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Speaker 1: guys are chomping at the bit to get back and

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Speaker 1: playing because that you're a football player. Uh, there's a

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Speaker 1: there's an off season when you have time to to

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Speaker 1: get away. Um, but when you you need the time off,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, when you're you know, one in seven,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you this time has changed. Times have

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Speaker 1: changed since when I used to play. Excuse me, when

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Speaker 1: I played for Coffin and I played for home Bring

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Speaker 1: and some of the other guys, you didn't get You

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Speaker 1: didn't get the week off if you weren't playing very well.

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Speaker 1: You know you you might have got a day or two,

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Speaker 1: but you're not it in the week um. And I

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Speaker 1: week before our by and Homeborn said, here's the deal, guys,

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Speaker 1: you win, you got the week off. You lose, you

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Speaker 1: don't have off. You talk about incentive. No, you're right,

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Speaker 1: that's that. That's a good point. Well, I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of coaches also, I'm trying to remember the different

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys head off on Monday. If yeah,

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Speaker 1: they had off Thursday, Friday, Saturday. So they called that

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Speaker 1: sea on Wednesdays. See the Sea on Wednesdays, like right

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Speaker 1: around now in the middle of the season. Um, you

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Speaker 1: and all I see on Wednesday and the place would erupt.

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Speaker 1: But now, granted, people would still come in on Monday

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Speaker 1: to lift and things like that, but there was no meetings,

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Speaker 1: figure things out. And one of those things they're trying

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Speaker 1: don't know how they practice and if they've been devolted

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Speaker 1: bye week, you get basically two weeks to get somebody prepared.

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Speaker 1: But just just just because it's the week after the bye,

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Speaker 1: lot of going forward. Not not necessarily it has to

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Speaker 1: be this week, but going forward the rest of the season,

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Speaker 1: going on right now. Jiman Brown, Um, you had a

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Speaker 1: good answer. Somebody asked them, like, you know, is it

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Speaker 1: at the time he was picked up, they were undefeated.

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Speaker 1: They were undefeated, And Brown was very assertive right away.

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Speaker 1: He says, you listen, it doesn't matter if you eight

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Speaker 1: by the way, you know what, why not try it?

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Speaker 1: Two oh one four five one three is the number.

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Speaker 1: Let's open it up with our friend up in Canton,

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Speaker 1: New York. Dylan. Dylan, how you doing today? You're on

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Speaker 1: with Russ and Jeff Say good afternoon, guys. Hey Dell,

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Speaker 1: how are you, buddy? Good? Especially this week? This is

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Speaker 1: the first week I've gone to classes, uh Monday morning

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Speaker 1: well this Monday coming up, I think it's a definitely

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Speaker 1: all right, Dylan, thank you for the call. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is kind of important. You know. I'm not saying you

425
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Speaker 1: fans are saying it's not. But I think it's just been.

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00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: It's been a problem this year. We all know that. Everybody.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about it for eight weeks. But it

428
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Speaker 1: makes a difference. All of a sudden, everybody plays well well,

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Speaker 1: they play a lot better and they can accomplish a

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Speaker 1: lot more. And it goes in line to what Pat

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00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: Shermer said at the big beginning of the season. We're

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Speaker 1: only we're gonna go as far as the offensive line

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Speaker 1: is gonna take us. Well, you're one in seven, So

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00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: that kind of answers that. I will say this. He

435
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: mentions Fluka again. They're really excited about getting this guy,

436
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 1: Jamal Brown. He's a pro. He's a good football player,

437
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: and like I said, he is all of his three

438
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: and forty pounds is there and he just he's a

439
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: big man. But the operative word to me is man.

440
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 1: I just the way he conducts himself. If if he's

441
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: half as good on the field as he was today

442
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: meeting him off the field, I'll be I think Giant

443
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: fans will be very pleased to a one four or five.

444
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: One three is the number again. Gotta remind all of

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Speaker 1: you Big Blue Kickoff Live presented to you by Course Lights,

446
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448
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Speaker 1: Let's go local in Queens and check in with Jimmy. Jimmy,

449
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and Jeff. What's going on? Rust

450
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 1: and job? Thanks for taking my call. What's up buddy?

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Speaker 1: First off, Jeff my man, thank you for the championship.

452
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: We appreciate you as fans over well, You're welcome and

453
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: thank you for being a fan. I appreciate it all

454
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: my life, all my me and my wife, my kids.

455
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: Everybody very good. But yeah, one thing or a couple

456
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: of things I want to say, UM, regarding the offensive line,

457
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about it and and I'm glad

458
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: brought up the uh same game. UM, I think it's

459
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: more of a coaching issue than it is personnel because

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00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: you have to every every every guy that's starting on

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. The old professionals and when it comes

462
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Speaker 1: to ounce with football is excellents in this execution. And uh,

463
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: as a coach, you have to see your strengths and

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00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: your weaknesses in the line. Now, being that five guys

465
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: are not giving Eli enough time. Put a full back there,

466
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Speaker 1: put up, you know, go go double tight end. There's

467
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: some more chip blocks, you know. Um, I feel like

468
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: we were a little predictive and the play calling and

469
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Speaker 1: personnel that's going to be on the field, and you know,

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Speaker 1: as far as um as far as Eli goes, you know,

471
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Speaker 1: we're all hearing the discussions with Eli. And to bring

472
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Speaker 1: up the Saints point, I like what they're doing with

473
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill, how they bring him in every once in

474
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: a while and who who knows if he's going to

475
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Speaker 1: be their quarterback of the future, but he's getting actual

476
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: live gameplay and they're seeing what he can do. Now

477
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Speaker 1: with Loletta, I think the Giants are kind of stuck

478
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: and traditional football, and now football is evolved, the ways

479
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 1: being played, the personnel is being used. You know, back

480
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: in the eighties, all the defensive events were big, huge guys,

481
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: and now we're seeing guys like Lorenzo called a speedy

482
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: guys and more athletic guys on the outside. Um, you know,

483
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: so I think the game is evolving. I think the

484
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: coaching also needs to evolve. You know, maybe we could

485
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Speaker 1: do something like uh like the Saints to with all

486
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: Letta and put him in there for a player two

487
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: and see what he does and get him accustomed to

488
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Speaker 1: playing and see what we got. Because at this point

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Speaker 1: in the season, Um, we just have to figure out

490
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Speaker 1: moving forward, what's gonna happen. You know. If we win

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Speaker 1: a bunch of games, that's great. But you know what, Jim,

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Speaker 1: you bring up and thanks for the call, my man,

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Speaker 1: you bring up a fair point. And Coach Herman basically

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Speaker 1: said to that. You know, he was asked about Eli

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Speaker 1: this week and the Eli is starting, and uh, he said,

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Speaker 1: though he's had discussions with Eli, he didn't say, uh,

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Speaker 1: he's not starting. After that, he he made you it

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Speaker 1: to cover that Helies the quarterback this week and looking

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Speaker 1: on winning games and back in you know, backing up Eli.

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Speaker 1: But he also had to discussion with Eli, which I'm

501
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Speaker 1: what says, you know, we gotta look at people and

502
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Speaker 1: I would think, you know, meaning everybody but if he

503
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Speaker 1: had a discussion, I'm sure the discussion was probably somewhere

504
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Speaker 1: along the line. Listen, if we're not winning and this

505
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Speaker 1: keeps on going, we're gonna have to take a look

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Speaker 1: at some people. And that's the way the way it is. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not putting words into the coach's mouth. That's the

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Speaker 1: way he explained it. So yeah, I mean, listen, you

509
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Speaker 1: wanted seven, You're gonna have to look well. I think

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Speaker 1: that to go back to your point where the coaching

511
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Speaker 1: and the players, both of them have to coach better

512
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Speaker 1: and play better ultimately. But I feel like to Pat

513
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: Schermer offense, what he wants to do. He doesn't want

514
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Speaker 1: to have to keep in two tight ends and have

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Speaker 1: a full back in there all the time because it

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Speaker 1: takes away from what they want to do offensively. Therefore,

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Speaker 1: the the onus is on the lineman to play better.

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Speaker 1: And when you've got uh one of your very high

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Speaker 1: price left tackle, a number two draft pick, a very

520
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: high number two draft pick in your left guard, and

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Speaker 1: then you've got the right side of that offensive line

522
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: that just isn't that good, you gotta you gotta think

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Speaker 1: about what's gonna happen in the future, so you get

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Speaker 1: some people in there. And the previous choler had mentioned

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Speaker 1: about the about the Colts offensive line. That's basically what's

526
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: gonna happen here, you hope, But going forward to the

527
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: rest of eight games of the season, this evaluation is

528
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 1: going to have to take place, and either they're all

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Speaker 1: gonna be gone other than the two left guys on

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Speaker 1: the left side, because those guys aren't going anywhere, okay,

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Speaker 1: and then you gotta think about the right side. And

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00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: so but my point here is that yes, it's it's

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00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: it's about coaching, but it's not all about coaching. It's

534
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: all about playing better and executing better as a team.

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00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: This is professional football. There's no question they're paid money.

536
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: This You're not here on scholarships, not absolutely, and you

537
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: have to be held accountable. Unfortunately, this isn't a ninety

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00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: man roster where you've got five guards and six tackles

539
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: and you can say, okay, guess what you're up Russ

540
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: and you go playing. Maybe he plays well for two

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Speaker 1: weeks and then you put the other guy in there

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00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: isn't you know, they only addressed seven offensive lineman on

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Speaker 1: game day, So it's it's it's difficult. Bottom this. They

544
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: gotta play better, period that they have to play better

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00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: and they know that. And back to your point about

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position, Kyle II Letta, guys has not seen

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00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: a jersey on game day. Okay, he's and I and

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00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: I've just heard that he's taking reps in practice. I

549
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: don't know that for sure. But the guy just came

550
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: from Richmond. Did you hear what I just said? It's

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00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: I know as much as you want, and he's not.

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00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: He's not. He's not the Tyson Hill got Tasson Hill

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00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: or however you want to call us. First thing that's

554
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: not him. Okay. And and they um Peyton he designs

555
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: that offense and they use that thing incredibly. He's really good.

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00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: He's a good player. In fact, they kind of stump

557
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: with into that guy. I mean he was especially west

558
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: Off found him and said, hey man, we can use

559
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: this guy on special team. And then all of a

560
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: sudden they saw him doing stuff in practice and Seampaine said, oha,

561
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: wait a second, I'm gonna use them on the offense.

562
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: And they do a great job with it. So I

563
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: think right now, to answer your question and to be

564
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: honest with everybody, is the fact that their coaches in

565
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: their bye week have have studied this offense. They've studied

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Speaker 1: their coaching style. We mentioned I think you and I

567
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: did last time we did a show, Um, Russ was

568
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: that when the offense will critique the defense and vice versa,

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Speaker 1: the coaches do that so they can understand that these

570
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: guys coach against NFL football teams, they certainly can turn

571
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: around if I'm an offensive coach and look at you

572
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: as a defensive coach, James Betcher, and say, hey, these

573
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: are some of the tendencies that we see you guys

574
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: are doing from an offensive standpoint, And I know that

575
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: that helps, and I know that's what they do. So

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00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: we'll see some of the changes coming up in this

577
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: game against San Francisco. Tough place to go when you

578
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: fly out to the West Coast. I will tell you

579
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: that the time change is a little bit easier to

580
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: go there, but it's still a long trip, Um, And

581
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: you gotta get these guys in their mind right to

582
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: come back and play, and they should be a your

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00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: game for them. You know they're on there, they're coming

584
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: off there by Um, the Giants have had a little

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00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: bit of time to to study and game plan for

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00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: the forty niners. Again two oh one four or five

587
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: one three is a n But I couldn't agree with

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00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: you more, Jeff, thank you, Thank you, Russ with without question. Obviously,

589
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: you know coaches will tell you, you know, Sherman will

590
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: tell you if every game it's everybody, it's everybody's got

591
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: to do better. Coaches, players, everybody. But I mean, again,

592
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: this is professional football. It's it's it's not you're not

593
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: here on scholarship, so you know you get paid every week,

594
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: and um, you know you've got to You've got people,

595
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: you gotta earn, earn your money and more than ever,

596
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: more than ever. Yeah, you have to earn your money

597
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: more than ever, You've got to earn your job here,

598
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean going forward, this team is this is evaluation

599
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: one oh one right now, my friend. It's it's like, okay,

600
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: top to bottom from the roster, starting with the kicker

601
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: and the punter all the way down to the third

602
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: string safety. I don't whatever it is that this is

603
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: a team that's being evaluated every single day from you're

604
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: on out, because once the season is over, they move

605
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: into free agency and they move into the draft, and

606
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna start constructing a new football team to get

607
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: get the Giants back to where they need to be.

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00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: You know, you haven't say you haven't said all the time,

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00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: you know you gotta look yourself in the mirror. Well

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00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: it's not just looking yourself in the mirror, it's other

611
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: people looking at you as well. So you and you

612
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 1: know what when you when you look at this NFC

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00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: East and going into next season, even though we're halfway

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00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: through the season, Um, there's a little bit of promise

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00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: there because I don't see anybody. I see the Eagles. Obviously,

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00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: they're defending world champions and you gotta give them a

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00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: little bit of credit is probably winning this division. But here,

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00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: just two weeks ago, we thought it was gonna be

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Speaker 1: the Redskin and they've laid an egg the last couple

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00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: of weeks too. So um, going forward into next season,

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00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: you know this Giants can turn this thing around pretty quickly.

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00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: They've got a shot next year. And you know, again,

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Speaker 1: I think that's why Sherman says, you know, they're trying

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00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: to win games. You're always are trying to win. Yeah,

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00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: you as a professional saying that, but you know there's

626
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: business when people say tank a season, winning builds confidence

627
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: losing makes it go the other way. And it's not

628
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: like it's not like basketball. Football is a far different

629
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: sport because football you're getting beaten up every day, You're

630
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: getting beaten up in practice. That mentality you can't you

631
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: can't think like that. You gotta go play, try and win.

632
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Speaker 1: And that's what they're trying to do this week out

633
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Speaker 1: in San Francisco when they go there from Monday night.

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Speaker 1: Let's meantime, let's go to Oakland is at Oakland, Oakland,

635
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ork or Oakland, California. Check out with Mike, which, Hey, guys,

636
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Speaker 1: um just want to keep it on the offensive line

637
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: because um, I'm hopeful. I know it's not a real

638
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: pop Mike. Where are you? Are you calling from Niagara Falls?

639
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: You sound like you're in a barrel, Mike, but we

640
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: love you. You gotta call back. You gotta call back

641
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: on a different line, Palette. It's not working. I'm sorry.

642
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: It's just an awful lot of statics. So let's head

643
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: out to New Mexico and check in with Scott. Scott,

644
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and Jeff. How are you doing

645
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: today good? How are you guys doing today good? What's up? Scott.

646
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: I had a couple of questions. The first one, I

647
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: don't know if either of you can answer. When you're

648
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: when you have the kind of season you had last

649
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: year and then you're starting this season this way. Uh,

650
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: Football players who aren't robots, there um beings, They have feelings,

651
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: et cetera. So how do how does anyone protect themselves from, say,

652
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: the psychological trauma of losing game after game? What does

653
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: a player have to do internally the question to sort

654
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: of protect themselves so if they don't feel like, you know,

655
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: the next game is going to be the same. Reason

656
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: answer the questions. There's two There's two types of players,

657
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: in my opinion with this. The one the one type

658
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 1: of player who um financially knows that there's you know,

659
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: yeah you want to cut me, go ahead and cut me,

660
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: and you know I'll take my money that you gave

661
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: me and and just go on, go on and be done.

662
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: There's the other guy that has that that really is

663
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: has is trying to make the team and have a career. Okay,

664
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: So there's when you look at players different You look

665
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: at those two players differently, and then when you have

666
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: fifty three personalities, when you have different types and follow

667
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: me here, you get some guys that don't care and

668
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: some guys that do care. It's up to the general

669
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: manager and the coaching staff to blend those types of

670
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: people so that you don't have that happen and so

671
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: and it's it's very difficult when you're one in seven

672
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: because you know you're finished right this season, you have

673
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: no chance of making it. But what do you have

674
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: to do to play for? You have your teammates to

675
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: play for, and nor importantly, you have your future to

676
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: play for. And do you want to play on this

677
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: team as you want to be part of this organization

678
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: Because a lot of guys, and even Brandon Jacobs would

679
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: if he was sitting here right now, he would tell

680
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: you the same story. I left the Giant thinking the

681
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: grass was greener on the other side and they and

682
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: they come back and they say, oh god, I should

683
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: have never left. So those types of things, and that

684
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: has to be portrayed through the veterans of this team

685
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: talking to the younger guys and saying, listen, man, you

686
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: know you careful what you wish for, because you know

687
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: if you just play each game and go out there

688
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: and do your job, and that's all you ask of people,

689
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: you know, Scott two things. I don't know if you

690
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: you heard me say it before, but but in answer

691
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: to your question, I think it's appropriate. Um the new

692
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: Giant who they just picked up the guard they picked

693
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: up on wherever jam On Brown not now. They asked

694
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: him today, you know what's it like? You know what,

695
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: how does it feel for you? Like? Do you have

696
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 1: to get yourself pumped up? You know you're coming from

697
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: At the time he left, they were he was coming

698
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: from an undefeated eight no team. Now he's coming to

699
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 1: one and seventeen. And his answer was no. I mean,

700
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you're eight and one, which they

701
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: are now the Rams, or you're one and seven. It's

702
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: football and you're a professional and you have to get

703
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: yourself ready. Another comment, and it depends on the player though. No, No,

704
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: the book that that guy right there, he unders understands.

705
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: And I'll give you another example. I'll never forget that,

706
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: Parcels used to say, and he said it to me

707
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: a few times. He'd go, you know, Simson Taylor, they'd

708
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: compete in a parking lot. And I didn't understand that

709
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: right away. You know what do you give me this

710
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: compete in a parking lot. But you know what, he

711
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: was right, especially those two guys, it didn't matter. Then

712
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: you take the money aside and he hold outs aside.

713
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: But when it came time to compete, they would compete

714
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: in a parking lot. I remember, and you know what,

715
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: it told me that Lesson Sims once invited me to

716
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: play golf at Ridgewood, and I remember he was on

717
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: the practice putting green and I'm saying, oh my god,

718
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: the intensity. He just not no, but that's what He's

719
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: a professional athlete, and it's preparing. So like to me

720
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: and answer, Scott, you know, I think you know, Jeff

721
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: hit it, well, it depends if you want to take

722
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: the money and run, if you have pride, if you

723
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: want to make the team, all those factors come in.

724
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: I think you're right, Jeff. You know Brown has the

725
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: right attitude. So he answered it, Well, what else you've got, Scott?

726
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: One question? I wanted to get an assessment from either

727
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: of you on the play of Evan Ingram so far.

728
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: I realized he's been injured, but still when he's been

729
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: in the game, he seems to be a non factor.

730
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: And obviously he's still continues to drop passes. So uh

731
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: is do you think the Giants are using him correctly

732
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: or do they need to switch him out to a

733
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,479
Speaker 1: wide receiver position or is he just test to find

734
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: himself uh and find his own path, so to speak,

735
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: to get back to the levels that he was at.

736
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: It's a good I think it's a good question. And

737
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, he's been banged up a little bit,

738
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: but you certainly would expect when the first round draft

739
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: pick to have a little bit more success in the offense.

740
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: But when I say success in the offense, what does

741
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: that mean? You got to have an offensive line that

742
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: can protect Eli to give him time to throw the ball,

743
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: and then they've been using him in protection. And what

744
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: we said earlier, you know, these guys Coach Sherman doesn't

745
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: want to have to use two tight ends because his

746
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: offensive offensive line is not working. You know, they'd rather

747
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: have blocked five guys and the and the defense rushes four. Okay, Well,

748
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: now that the defenses that were playing, they're getting to

749
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback rushing four and we're keeping tight ends in

750
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: So I think if in a perfect world, if this

751
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: guy had the protection, then then Ingram could line up

752
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: in certain positions and be more successful. You know, Scott,

753
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: it makes sense, Scott Scott on the ingram, you know,

754
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: in answer also to what you're saying, listen, Uh, he

755
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: had a fine season last year. But you know, whether

756
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: he talked about not offensive line or you know, anything else,

757
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: he's had the drop seas, you know, a lot. I

758
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: think he dropped the leven last year and he had

759
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: a glaring drop. You know, glaring drop was the last game.

760
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, was fourth and three right through

761
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: his hands. That wasn't the offensive line, that was him.

762
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: That was a perfectly called, perfectly planned play and he

763
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: blew it. And listen again, he's not on scholarship. He's

764
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: a pro and and you know he's not your prototypical

765
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. You know he's he can't be. Yeah, but

766
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: he's not Mark Bavarro. He's not that kind of tight end.

767
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: So if he's going to be this you know kind

768
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: of what what what what would you call it? A

769
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: tweeter or and in between? I think they want him

770
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: to be uh Kelsey. They want him to be a

771
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: Gronkowski and he's neither spent a first round draft pick

772
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: on him. You hope you get something out of him.

773
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: But I think that, you know, injuries play a point

774
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: apart into it. And I also feel that the offense,

775
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, way that it's running right now, his production

776
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: is directly tied to that. And I think that's that's

777
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: probably what's happened. Catching football is that's that's on him.

778
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: That's just something you gotta do after practice and really

779
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: focus in and not try too hard. I mean sometimes

780
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: these guys are like trying to put a square peg

781
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: in a round hole during game day, Like, just catch

782
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: the ball. That's what you that's what you naturally can do.

783
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: You know, that's why you're in the National Football League

784
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: is because you have that skill set. Just let it happen. Alright, Scott, Yeah,

785
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: you're welcome. All right, all right, let's head back out

786
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: to Oakland. See if we've got a better connection with Mike.

787
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: Oh all right. So I just wanted to keep it

788
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, um because it's unpopular, but I

789
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: think we might be closer than uh than a lot

790
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: of people think. And if well Jamal Brown plays well,

791
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: then the question is what's the ceiling for Spencer Polley. Well,

792
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: remember Spencer Polley is is do you think he's a

793
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: starting offensive lineman in the National Football League. Still, I'm

794
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: just curious. Well, he's young, he's a young guy. He's

795
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: only what I think, right, Yeah, I'm just I'm just

796
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: asking if you think he's if he can be the starter.

797
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't know. I mean maybe, but

798
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: I think that the addition of Brown could could help

799
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: things absolutely. I mean he's a lot like Flucker. That

800
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: offense did pretty well last year with flucker um offensive line.

801
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: At least they weren't as bad as they were this year. Um,

802
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: you know, and we talked about the offensive line Mike

803
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: at this as if the line could block better in

804
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: the run game, I don't think that we would have

805
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: all this many problems in the passing game because teams

806
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: just they don't respect the run. I mean, they don't

807
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: care about I think, think what but but my think

808
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: about what? What? What? Jeff just said, You got a

809
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: the number two pick overall, who's not a good running back.

810
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: He's an outstanding running back. I mean, if the kid

811
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: does not get hurt, Sae Kwon Barkley will be a

812
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. I'm not going out on a limb

813
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: saying that if he doesn't, if he doesn't get hurt,

814
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: but think about that. You have that, But as Jeff says,

815
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: but you don't have a running game if they're not.

816
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: If they're not, if the other opposing defenses are not

817
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: worried about respecting the Giants running game, then what look

818
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: at what your problem is. You got a problem with

819
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: pass blocking, and that's what I'm that's what I'm calling

820
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: to talk about his offensive line play because you know

821
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: sa Kwon Barkley. The last time I checked his his

822
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: yards before contact was negative point three. That's horrible offensive

823
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: line play. But you know, also you know I'm trying

824
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: to look at what we have right. So the trap

825
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: on Nate Solder is that he's not a power player.

826
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: He's a finesse player, but he's good. He's quick feet,

827
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: he can play. But what he excelled at was pushing

828
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: the rusher past Brady. Brady was able to step up

829
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: in the pocket and because they had a good interior

830
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: offensive line, he could do that. That's why Solder was effective.

831
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: So if you figure that next year or soon Hernandez

832
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: stops just clean whipping on box and plays up to

833
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: his potential, we will come with experience. We got this

834
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: new guy, Jamome Brown at right guard. That means we

835
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: got to tackle left guard, right guard hopefully set if

836
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: we can get a decent center play, and then the

837
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: question is, you know, is Wheeler ever gonna be something

838
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: or do we desperately need to go for a right tackle.

839
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: So that's kind of where my you know what, I

840
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: hope that we're not that far away. And you know what,

841
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: when you make that case and you think about John

842
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: hall Apio or Hallapio, whatever you want to call him,

843
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean they had a lot of he was playing well.

844
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: He really was eyes. I mean, he the coaching staff

845
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: was very high on him until he got hurt. I mean,

846
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: so he was a big loss it at offense. So

847
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: bring him back in the mixed mike, And now you've

848
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: got four out of the five positions which you feel

849
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: could be in a could beat could if they could

850
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: play together and they can come together and compete, then

851
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: your right tackle as your only caveat in that and

852
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: the four out of the five you've got in your mind,

853
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: So yes, I think they could become They could do okay,

854
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: but they've got to play better collectively, you know that.

855
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: And we'll see soon enough what they do with the

856
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: with the other positions that you just mentioned being at

857
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: at right well, right guard. I think that Brown will

858
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: probably listen. The guy was a third round draft pick.

859
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't a first round draft pick, but it wasn't

860
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: a seventh round draft pick. I mean, a decent player.

861
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: He played for the for the for the Rams for

862
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: a period of time. And I think the Giants are

863
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: lucky because in the position that they're in and the

864
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: waiver claims, they were able to get the guy they had.

865
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: That guy had a lot of waiver claim for him.

866
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: They had a lot of yeah you have no, he

867
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: wasn't he was sought after, so you know, good points, Mike.

868
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, buddy, appreciate it. Thanks for calling

869
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,479
Speaker 1: back to Mike. Yep, be careful. Two five, one three

870
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: is the number. Let's go here in New Jersey and

871
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: speak with Courtney. Courtney, you on with Russ and Jeff.

872
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: How are you doing today? I'm done? Good? Good? What's up?

873
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: All right? I want to know quick question. Do you

874
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: guys really believe that the Chip from Oregon is a

875
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: very good quarterback? I can't make that assessment because I

876
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of him. I'll you know, I'll well,

877
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. I mean, unfortunately, none of

878
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: us on the East Coast get to watch a lot

879
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: of Oregon's games. But but but I mean, in reality,

880
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: if you start talking about the drafting and the players

881
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: that are coming out next year, we don't even know

882
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: if he's gonna come out. Herbert is his name. You

883
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: have to start right justin Herbert, and you you start talking,

884
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: he is He's the guy that everybody's talking about. So

885
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: you gotta kind of think, Yeah, I guess, I guess

886
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: he could. He's a big He's a he's a big guy,

887
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: six four, six five, He's got a heck of an

888
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: arm um. He's a pocket passer. He's not a running quarterback.

889
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: He can run, and so yeah, I think I think

890
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: he is one of the He's gonna be one of

891
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: the if less, if he comes out, he's gonna be

892
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: the first picks. Right now, he will be the first pick.

893
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: Question number two, I'll be mathematically out of the playoffs. Well,

894
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: I think not mathematically. You are correct. Go ahead, now,

895
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: I want to now we want to find out a

896
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: few nuts. Go ahead. I've been a fan for a

897
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: very long time. I believe in Eli and I believe

898
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: that we can't get it done due to the scheduling

899
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: and the scheduling division and who they have to face

900
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: as well. Well, yes, I listen, I know where you're going, Courtney,

901
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: but it's great to be a realist. Um, but I

902
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: will tell you this, the Giants see two weeks ago,

903
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: I think the Giants had the fifth going to the

904
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: last eight games the season at the fifth easiest schedule,

905
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth easiest schedule the first eight games was

906
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: that was murders row. So in that that's one point

907
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: and they and they pretty well a might that's right ahead.

908
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: And I think that you know, with the the rest

909
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: of the NFC East them being down, so those those

910
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: that's that's factored into that why they're the fourth or

911
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: fifth easiest going forward. So listen, I don't think they're

912
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: gonna win it, but at least they could come back

913
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: to respectability. Yeah, they but they gotta play better. They're

914
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: gonna have to play better. It's gonna be a tough row,

915
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: tough sledding, as they say, as we move into the

916
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: winter season. You know, Courtney, understand this and listen, I'm

917
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm all with you. It's great to be optimistic and

918
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: you want to look at it that way, but you

919
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: gotta look at from the other team standpoint too. If

920
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: right now, if you got the Giants on your schedule,

921
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,479
Speaker 1: they look walking that off as a win, which would

922
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: be a good thing because they look past them. Maybe

923
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, but listen again. Let him go

924
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: to San Francisco and win a game. Then let him

925
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: home and play Tampa and win a game, and then

926
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: you have two in a row and then you can

927
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: feel good. But I you know, I don't. I don't

928
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: want to keep saying it, but you need to win

929
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: one before you can win two in a row. And

930
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: they haven't done that all season. So let him start.

931
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: Let's let's get it taken care of Monday night and

932
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,959
Speaker 1: then worry about the following Sunday and then come talk

933
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: to me about the schedule. Okay, buddy, did you have

934
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: a question? Question to three? Where do we stand with

935
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: Eli Manning? Do we give him one last raw or

936
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: do we cut it after a boss after a loss? No,

937
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that's the case, uh, in

938
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. I mean, U. Let's they

939
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: lose forty to nothing in Frisco when he throws five interceptions,

940
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: I mean this as I said Coach Sherman, thanks for

941
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: the call, Courtney. Pat Shermans said today that um Eli

942
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: is the starting quarterback this week. He has spoken to Eli,

943
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: uh you know about the rest of the season. But

944
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: the plan is Eliza starting quarterback. We plan on any

945
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: games and going from there. And I don't Again, this

946
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: is my opinion. I have no nothing that I know nothing.

947
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: And in my opinion, when you're coming out of a

948
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: bye week, there's a lot of discussions. There are meetings,

949
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: and these coaches are getting together, the the the management

950
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: is getting together, and there's probably a lot of talk

951
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: about this topic amongst the coaches and the staff. So

952
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: what's been said, I don't know, and but what but

953
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: at least coach Sherman had come out and said that,

954
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, this week, this is what it's gonna be.

955
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: You may find out that this is a week the

956
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: week thing going forward. Who knows, because we talked about

957
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: it earlier a couple of weeks ago when all this

958
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: stuff started to surface about Kyle Ailetta and you know,

959
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: do you really want to go to where you were

960
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: last year at the situation where you know, do you

961
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: want to see Davis Webb play or do you want

962
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: to see Kyle Ailetta play? Do you want to see

963
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: Tanny play? Who? Who do you want to see? So

964
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm trying to say here, guys, is

965
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: that I'm sure that this has been talked about, and

966
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: I sure that there is a plan in place, just

967
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: nobody knows what it is, and it could be lying

968
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: all the way through, it could be all who knows.

969
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: Coch Coach Sherman did not divulge, quote unquote going to

970
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: the intricacies of his plan, but he did say he

971
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: he spelled it out for everybody at when you know,

972
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: when he met the media today, he said, ELI is

973
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: starting this week, most definitely, he said. And then then

974
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: somebody said after that, he said, look, I spoke with Eli.

975
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: In fact, he said, I've had lots of discussions conversations

976
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: with Eli about a lot of things. If he if

977
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: you want to use it as in assuming innuendo, whatever,

978
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: it sounded an awful lot to me, Like, listen, we're

979
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: trying to win games with ELI. If we're not winning games,

980
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: and it's just it's not just even a question of

981
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: not winning games, but how we are looking, you know,

982
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: like as you said from the beginning of the show, Jeff,

983
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: they gotta start looking at people, and I guess one

984
00:49:53,120 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: of those people. It's every position, all right, two O five, one,

985
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: three is the number. Let's go to our buddy out

986
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: and down in Columbia, Maryland. Lynn Len, you're on with

987
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 1: Russ and Jeff. How you doing today, buddy? Good? Good,

988
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: Hey guys, how are you guys doing? All right? Yeah? Good, um, listen.

989
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: I hope we found gold in this guy, Shaman Brown.

990
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 1: But let's let's remember there is a reason why he's

991
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: not playing on the Los Angeles Rams. Correct, correct, I

992
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: love it, and and and the number one reason is

993
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: the Rams had somebody who was better, and the Rams

994
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: are eight and one. What we gotta do is to

995
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: get the guy that the Rams gott who's better than

996
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: Jiman Brown. Well, they had to cut him because they

997
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: ended up getting Ala, a very good player. Yeah, the

998
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: guy who's who's playing. Even Jaman Brown himself said he

999
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: deserved to keep the job. He was playing great. Yeah,

1000
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: I mean we got to get well yeah, but but

1001
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 1: but but we don't want the guys that these these

1002
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: good teams are cutting. Yeah, but if they're better than

1003
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 1: the guys that are on your roster, why not, you know, Lenn,

1004
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: I don't, Lena, I don't necessarily agree with you, because

1005
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: certain teams have guys in all sports, certain guys are

1006
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: sitting on benches or not starting when they could start

1007
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: on a lot of other teams, and those teams are

1008
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: fortunate to have them. So to say, well, he just

1009
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: was a backup or a half as backup, that's not

1010
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: a fair analogy. I got him for nothing to rise.

1011
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: Will just bring him in here, and like like I

1012
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: said before, and I think you're gonna agree with me,

1013
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: is the fact that going forward from this point on,

1014
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: this is an evaluation process for this team. And they've

1015
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: got a third round draft pick that started some games

1016
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: for the Rams he was let go and then being

1017
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: on the high wire ware waiver wires peck in order,

1018
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: they said, hey, why not let's bring this guy in

1019
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: and see if he can compete and be better than

1020
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 1: any of the guys we have on our roster. Lenny,

1021
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: you're one of our best callers. You call every week.

1022
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: You're as loyal as any loyal fan could be. You know,

1023
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: the conversation from week one to now going into uh,

1024
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, week nine, whatever the hell I think it's

1025
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: it's week ten because it's the bye week. You know,

1026
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about. All we've been talking about was

1027
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: the you know, terrible player the offensive lines. So they

1028
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: just made a big improvement. Okay, they feel they made

1029
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: a big improvement. I don't care if he was the

1030
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: third string on another team. The bottom line is he's improvement.

1031
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: He's a big improvement to what they have. That's the

1032
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: way I have to work. I hope, first of all,

1033
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: thanks for the compliment, and and secondly, I do hope

1034
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: you're right, but I'm just kind of I'm just kind

1035
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: of a little suspect. And let let me just carry

1036
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: this conversation one step further. Jeff, I want to answer

1037
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: your thanks for asking the question of the previous caller

1038
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: about the center Spencer Pulley, and let me try to

1039
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: answer Jeff, he has absolutely no upside with the shiance.

1040
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: You said it, and he started sixteen games for the

1041
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. You don't beat the better teams with

1042
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: former players. From those teams, you get the guys that

1043
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: they're getting to replace the former players. That's how you

1044
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: get to the top of the heap. I'll go to

1045
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: the Charges this year without Spencer Pulley. Well, they went

1046
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: out and spend fifteen million dollars on on the other

1047
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: Pency brother. They I mean, they got better right away.

1048
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: And you know, just you know, speaking about the center position.

1049
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm a big center guy. Okay. And I remember back

1050
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: when the when the Cincinnati Bengals started their first year.

1051
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: But Paul Brown was the coach, great coach. He was

1052
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: also the owner. The Russ Russ will remember with great coach, right,

1053
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: and the first person he drafted and the very first draft,

1054
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't a quarterback. Who wasn't a left tackle. He

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Speaker 1: drafted a center. And what do you draft in a center?

1056
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Speaker 1: With all these quarterbacks? Were a new team. You know

1057
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: how what he said, you've got to have an anchor.

1058
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: You're not going to be a team without an anchor.

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Speaker 1: Brown who was? Who was the center? I'm drawing a

1060
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Speaker 1: blank on his name. He was. His last name was Johnson.

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00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: I believe he played eleven or twelve years, They got

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Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl, he went to the Pro Bowl

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00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: four or five times. You need to check me on that,

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Speaker 1: but I believe his name was I want to say

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Speaker 1: Bob Johnson, but that's too simple, I know, his last

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Speaker 1: name was Johnson. Yeah, and h F, I'm glad you

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00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: brought up. I want to say one thing about the schedule,

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Speaker 1: and you talked about going to you know, San Francisco

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00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: and back and so forth. You know, we're the only team,

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Speaker 1: um traveling six thousand miles to play a game, going

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00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: coming back and have a game, have a game the

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Speaker 1: next Sunday. Nobody has had a Monday night game three

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Speaker 1: thousand miles away. I'm not you know, but it's been

1074
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: a terrible season, so you reach for these kinds of things.

1075
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: But but seriously, seriously, we're the only team we come

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00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: back on. I don't know when are you going to

1077
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: get back a very very early I'm not going, but

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00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: I know, I know whoever Tuesday morning, four o'clock in

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00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: the morning, o'clock in the morning, that you got a

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00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: game that Sunday. Nobody has traveled that much. Listen, Lynn.

1081
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: The other thing too, you can go back two weeks

1082
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: ago before the bye they had, Remember they had a

1083
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: Thursday night game. They had ten days off and then

1084
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: and then they had a bye too, and then playing

1085
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: a Monday night game, so they get a lot of

1086
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: time off, so they had to bang them somewhere and

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00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: this was it. And by the way, they'll get home

1088
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: around seven thirty or eight o'clock in the morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1089
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: there you going. They got a game the next Sunday.

1090
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: You know, I again, the schedule is what it is,

1091
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: it's the way it plays out. But that was just

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00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 1: kind of an oddesty to it. They're the only team

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00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: that's traveling that you know, you know, traveling that much. Hey, Russ,

1094
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: just something on the pad. You know, about three or

1095
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: four weeks ago, a couple of times you made a

1096
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: reference to Don Krielle, and I appreciate you doing that.

1097
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: He was a great coach and a passing game genius.

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00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: Do you remember your two comments? Remember that you brought

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00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: up you know, you know Coryell learned the game at

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Speaker 1: the feet of a guy named Sid Gilman's Yeah, well

1101
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: Sid Gilman of course, with John Game, Al Davis, Joe Gibbs,

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00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys from from that coaching tree. Gilman

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00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: was a genius. He's really were Bill Walsh, they all

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00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 1: they all learned it from Gilman. Well he was listen

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00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: if you recall buddy, uh Gilman, Like you said, Al Davis,

1106
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: but that old AFL that was a big passing league.

1107
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Darryl Lamonica was the mad bomber.

1108
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: I remember Vertical game. The Vertical game, Warren, come on.

1109
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: It was it was a different The whole game was different.

1110
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: You know, those guys had completions, you know, seventeen yards

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00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 1: twenty yards and wasn't like, yeah, that's that's exactly right.

1112
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Speaker 1: They also had a running game. And you know what,

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00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: and Lenny, thank you for the call. Joe Clecko. I

1114
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 1: heard Joe Clecko on a radio this week this weekend.

1115
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: He brought out a great point. You know, somebody brought

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00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: up to him. Actually it was Sid Rosenberg's as. Somebody

1117
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: brought up to him about, um, you know, how how

1118
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: many sacks do you think you had would have had

1119
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: if you know, when they were keeping all the records

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Speaker 1: and this and that. And he says, well, he doesn't

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00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: look at it that way, but he says, here's the difference.

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00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: He says, when I was playing, you know, they were

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00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: passing maybe of the time. You know, now they're passing,

1124
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: so you didn't have a chance for as many sacks.

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00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: The whole thing, every everything has changed, everything is changed,

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00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: and you know, quite frankly, I don't think if it's

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00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: always you know, for the better that that's just like

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Speaker 1: I've always said this. I was brought up in listen.

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00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: I remember the undefeated Miami Dolphins with Sonka Kick and

1130
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Speaker 1: Mercury Morris. I remember the horning and tailor Green Bay Packers.

1131
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: If somebody had the you know what to go ahead

1132
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: and have two of those kind of running backs today

1133
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,439
Speaker 1: and it was successful, the copycat and know the people

1134
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: would do it as well. But you don't have that,

1135
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: So your situation is what it is. Let's just hope

1136
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: you can look at the schedules all you want to

1137
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: figure out how the Giants to go to win the

1138
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: NFC East. Gonna win next week, right right now, Let's

1139
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Speaker 1: just get the Giants who win in Frisco on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: But again, folks, thanks for everybody calling in a good

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Speaker 1: show for Russ Salzburg. He is Jeff Eagles. I thank

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Speaker 1: you for being part of Big Blue Kickoff live here

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Speaker 1: on Giants dot com and I will see you tomorrow