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Speaker 2: and you could listen to what you missed. I feel

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Speaker 2: like I've done a segment like this, like like thirty

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Speaker 2: forty times in recent months. But every week it seems

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Speaker 2: there's the same story. Los Angeles officials lied about something

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Speaker 2: important when it came to the fire, and I just

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Speaker 2: can't believe how consistent the lies are. Like almost everything

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Speaker 2: they said in the early weeks and months turned out

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Speaker 2: to be false. And we have another entrant. I got to,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I got to put together a master

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Speaker 2: list now because it's hard to keep track of this.

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Speaker 2: I actually that's what Spencer Pratt was very good at

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Speaker 2: right off the top of his head when we did

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Speaker 2: the interview last week. You know, he was able to

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Speaker 2: reel off one fact after another, one lie after another,

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Speaker 2: and now the interim fire chief, Ronnie von Aeva. This

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Speaker 2: guy is a minor character along the way. He replaced

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Speaker 2: on how badly underfunded the fire department was under Bass.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Crowley committed many of her own's sins. But

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Speaker 2: Ronnie vi on Aeva. When reports came out that the

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Speaker 2: January seventh fire was a rekindling of a January first

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Speaker 2: fire known as the Lachman fire, he said, well, well

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Speaker 2: you know it wasn't us. In fact, we went back

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Speaker 2: to the area on January third, heard there was some

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Speaker 2: smoke and we cold trailed an additional time, a cold trail,

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Speaker 2: meaning what does that mean? They used their hands to

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Speaker 2: is labor intensive, doesn't it is? Does to sound that way. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you've got a whole group of firefighters, hands and knees

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Speaker 2: and as we know, the day before, a group of

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Speaker 2: firefighters they didn't want. They were rebelling against their battalion.

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Speaker 2: Chief Mary Garcia. They said, we shouldn't leave here. The

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Speaker 2: smoldering coming out of the ground and out of the

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Speaker 2: tree limbs and whatnot. And the battalion chief said, no,

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Speaker 2: everybody go home. Oh, roll up your hoses, out out.

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Speaker 2: There was some state official in the mix from the

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Speaker 2: Parks department. She wanted everybody out. The next day. Now,

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Speaker 2: Ronnie vian Aweva said, well, there was a group of

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Speaker 2: firefighters that went on the third Here's what really happened.

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Speaker 2: The in a Weeva claimed they cold trailed in additional time,

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Speaker 2: but The Los Angeles Times has obtained records that call

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Speaker 2: into question the statements. In other words, found out they lied.

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Speaker 2: If len Aweva had originally said, we went back over

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Speaker 2: there again, we dug it all out again, we put

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Speaker 2: ladders on it, we did everything we could do, coldtrail again. Dispatch.

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Speaker 2: A loog obtained by the Time shows that the firefighters

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Speaker 2: are right, I'm at the scene that day and quickly

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Speaker 2: quickly reported seeing no smoke. They then canceled the order

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Speaker 2: was cleared within thirty four minutes. The log does not

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Fire Department has not answered any questions

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Speaker 2: about it. The Time said they made multiple requests for

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Speaker 2: We went back over there, we dug it out all

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Speaker 2: over again. We did everything that we could do, but

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Speaker 2: nobody wrote that down and nobody wants to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, people need to be subpoenat here.

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Speaker 2: Where there should be now, this is what I want

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Speaker 2: to see with an investigation. People should have to testify

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Speaker 2: do it. Newsom is protecting everybody. This is what you

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Speaker 2: get with one party rule. You could actually burn a

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Speaker 2: we got the documents here and nobody will nobody questions it,

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Speaker 2: and when the truth comes out, nobody has any comment.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is afraid of being fired. How sad is that?

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Speaker 2: And a lot of these people need to be fired. Yes,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, But the people that want to come out and

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Speaker 4: tell the truth, I mean, no, I.

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Speaker 2: Know there's got to be there's got to be dozens,

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Speaker 2: who know the truth. Yeah, you're right, and they're they're afraid,

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Speaker 3: And they will be fired.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I understand why. But I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: like a state Senate or a state Assembly committee hearing.

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Speaker 2: You put them under oath where they have to tell

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Speaker 3: Has to be done. In this case, this is just ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Already, it says here in the Times conflict between the

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Speaker 2: fire Department's statements and its own record is likely to

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Speaker 2: intensify frustration and anger among Palisades fire victims. Y, no thanks,

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Speaker 2: and who wrote this?

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Paul Pringle and Eleen Chick Median. All right, there

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Speaker 2: you go. They are the They are sharp tools, those two.

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Speaker 2: But I appreciate that they dug out this information, that

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Speaker 2: they did the reporting. And it's almost a year now, yes,

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Speaker 2: but about six weeks it'll be a year. And there's

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Speaker 2: still gaps in what the fire department has told the

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Speaker 2: to the fire. Their gaps because nothing was done.

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Speaker 4: Everybody wants to not not the people that suffered, but

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Speaker 3: Everybody wants to just move on. We're rebuilding.

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Speaker 4: Just let's move on.

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Speaker 3: It's almost been a year.

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Speaker 4: No, you can't move on. There possibly criminal activity going

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Speaker 2: The fire Department's after action report makes only a passing

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Speaker 2: reference to the Lochman blaze, even though that was the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the arsonist fire was not put out, and good

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Speaker 2: luck finding that in the seventy page report. And missing

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Speaker 2: the area on January third, and a battalion chief's decision

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Speaker 2: So smoke was seen on January second and January third,

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Speaker 2: and no wonder, I got whipped up by the strong winds.

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Speaker 2: I guess they thought none of this was ever going

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Speaker 2: thousands of homes from people, everything's going to come out?

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Speaker 2: That that tragedy is so overwhelming, I mean, so searing.

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Speaker 2: I met, Oh, in fact, I told you, we always

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Speaker 2: take hikes there. Yeah, So my wife and I met

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Speaker 3: I'm sure. Oh no, there's the cow belts.

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Speaker 2: Turn out, always full of questions. And the gist of

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Speaker 2: their story was the husband stood outside with a hose.

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Speaker 2: He had a two and a half inch fire hose

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Speaker 2: because his family was threatened by a fire in the

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Speaker 2: same area nineteen seventy eight when he was a kid.

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Speaker 2: Eventually took over the house and he knew to have

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Speaker 2: they finally showed up, they said, yeah, we got to

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Speaker 4: I told you I have a friend whose house burned

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Speaker 4: down in the Palisades, and same thing.

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Speaker 3: No one came.

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Speaker 2: Nobody can't be to their neighborhood. So he saved several

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Speaker 2: a half inch which goes back to last week's discussion. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventeen million gallons would have made a difference.

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Speaker 2: This guy was able to save his home and several

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Speaker 4: And there should be hearing on that too, Yes, a

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Speaker 4: federal investigation. If the reservoir was filled, could that have

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Speaker 4: prevented homes from being lost?

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Speaker 2: at one thirty. Immediately after the news, I do where

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Speaker 2: not put my reading glasses? This really isn't gonna work.

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Speaker 3: The probably fell on the floor.

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Speaker 2: Very good, You're exactly right, yeah, I know. Coming up

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Speaker 2: after your news we're gonna have John fleischmannon. He's the

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Speaker 2: political analyst. Sodoesitmatter dot com is his website, and he's

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Speaker 2: written a piece and it's been in all the newspapers

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. The Trump administration is now suing California

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Speaker 2: because we have eighty thousand illegal alien students in this

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Speaker 2: It's actually a clear violation of federal law. John Fleischman

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Speaker 2: will talk about it after one thirty, talking about is

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Speaker 2: this another big lie? This one told by the interim

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Speaker 2: fire chief Ronnie vien Aweva. He claimed that the Palisades

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Speaker 2: fire burn area. Well, you know, the original fire was

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Speaker 2: the Lockmann fire on the first Palisades on the seventh

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Speaker 2: of January. Vienna Wavas said on January third, they cold

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Speaker 2: trailed that fire area, which means they use their hands

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Speaker 2: to feel for heat. They dug out hotspots. Actually they

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Speaker 2: did none of those things. It looks like Dotter did

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Speaker 2: he make that up because it's not in any of

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Speaker 2: the records. Times got a hold of him. Nothing in

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Speaker 2: the log and they keep asking by text, email and

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Speaker 2: in person, but the spokeshole, Captain Eric Scott, refuses to

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Speaker 2: explain the discrepancy. The Awava also refuses to explain. They

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Speaker 2: emailed him directly, they asked for an interview. Nothing. So

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Speaker 2: people are lying. They're making things up. Now, remember we

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Speaker 2: were just talking about the after action report. Yes, listen

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Speaker 2: to this claim by Genethia Hudley Hayes, president of the

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Speaker 2: Board of Fire Commissioners. The after action review that was

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Speaker 2: presented to the commission is exactly what we asked for,

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Speaker 2: she said. The review is only supposed to cover the

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Speaker 2: first seventy two hours after the Palisades fire. She claims

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Speaker 2: it's not an investigation. It should not include things that

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Speaker 2: the newspaper seems to feel like it should be included. Well,

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Speaker 2: they sold this thing as, oh, the after action report

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Speaker 2: will give us the answers, because reporters are asking Bass

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Speaker 2: and Crowley and everybody else's like, what about this? What

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Speaker 2: Yeah, eighty thousand. I had no idea the number was

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Speaker 2: John Fleischman, So does itmatter? Dot com? Thank you for

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Speaker 2: coming on with us about this.

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Speaker 1: We got it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks John, see you more coming up.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobel on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 2: Coming up after two o'clock. You know, you have an

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Speaker 2: Attorney General named Rob Bonta who has not investigated anything

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Speaker 2: about the Palisades fire, although that's his job. What he

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Speaker 2: is doing is meeting with a lot of donors and

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Speaker 2: he's involved in a scandal. And one of his donors, well,

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Speaker 2: there's a business partner of one of the donors who

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Speaker 2: says he has a compromising video of Rob Bonta. Now

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Speaker 2: the first thing I thought of, well, maybe this is

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Speaker 2: Rob Bonton naked or.

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Speaker 3: You know, dressed up as a furry. I mean that

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Speaker 3: would be that'd be.

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Speaker 2: Something that that that'd be the gold mine, right Rob.

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Speaker 2: And I can see that I can see.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying I can see that. I'm just I

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Speaker 4: can see it wondering.

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Speaker 2: I can imagine it. Put that right, right.

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Speaker 3: But we're just, you know, we're just poking fun here.

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Speaker 2: Sure, we're not. We're not. We're not suggested that he

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Speaker 2: actually is a furry.

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Speaker 3: I'm not any I mean, he.

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Speaker 2: Would make a cute furry though he's kind of a

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Speaker 2: diminutive guy. Yeah, he would look like just this little charming,

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Speaker 2: cuddly Okay, stopping you know. Uh anyway, Uh, there are

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Speaker 2: documents that show Bonton knew that his donor was facilitating

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Speaker 2: prostitution for elected officials. The donor and Bonta knew about it,

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Speaker 2: and supposedly there's a video making it clear Bonta knew

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Speaker 2: about it. Got to report for you. We're going to

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Speaker 2: play from a station up in northern California. Other things. Now,

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Speaker 2: last week we had a story on gay sheep, right,

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Speaker 2: and if you didn't hear the original story, it is

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Speaker 2: simply that there are two people who are well, one

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Speaker 2: of them Michael Stookey founded a company called Rainbow Wool,

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Speaker 2: and the wool comes from gay male sheep. He grew

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Speaker 2: up a farm in Germany and discovered along the way

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Speaker 2: that eight percent of the male population, the rams, have

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Speaker 2: a preference for other males, and those gay males are

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Speaker 2: killed because if you're not going to reproduce, if you're

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Speaker 2: not going to get it on with the female sheep,

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Speaker 2: you're worthless. And so the gay sheep would be taken

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Speaker 2: to slaughter, and he thought that's not right, and so

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Speaker 2: he has rescues these sheep by having its wool made

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Speaker 2: out of well turned into products and they're selling it.

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Speaker 2: In fact, this this whole line of wool products made

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Speaker 2: an appearance at a New York fashion show that's part

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Speaker 2: two of the story, just this past week. The fashion

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Speaker 2: line is called a Wool Survive and the designer is

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Speaker 2: Michael Schmidt. So you've got Michael Stuck as the owner

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Speaker 2: of the company. Michael Schmidt took the wool and designed.

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Speaker 2: Now he has styled Madonna and Share and currently the

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Speaker 2: gay dating app Grinder is involved. I don't want to know,

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Speaker 2: and they have let me see, now what are what

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Speaker 2: are they making here? I had a whole list of

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Speaker 2: their letters. Yes, stresses, polo shirts, shorts, robes. Oh, I

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Speaker 2: got to get one of those. I got to get

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Speaker 2: a robe made of gay sheep wool. Yes, so it was.

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Speaker 2: It was all displayed on the fashion show stage this week.

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Speaker 2: And I guess, I mean, he's from Los Angeles, Michael,

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Speaker 2: Michael Schmidt, and so it's got to be Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: from Los Angeles, so it's got to be available here.

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Speaker 2: I would think it's got to show up in stores.

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Speaker 2: Wool hats, dungarees, a wolf sailor's outfit, and a dressing gown.

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Speaker 4: You know what I wonder though, And I'm all in

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Speaker 4: favor of this. I mean, you don't discriminate kill gay sheep.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's just that's horrible. But when you take

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Speaker 4: the when you take the wool off the sheep, aren't

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Speaker 4: they cold?

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Speaker 3: I mean I picture them shivering, and then that's really mean.

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Speaker 2: Right, and you have these bald.

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Speaker 4: Gayhe I mean, I hope that maybe if that's the case,

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Speaker 4: that they're wrapping them up in blanket.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know nothing about sheep hurting.

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Speaker 3: I don't either.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anything about the raising sheep for the

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Speaker 2: wool industry. I'd have to look that up.

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of vegans don't wear wool.

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Speaker 2: Why not for the reason I just well, they ought

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Speaker 2: to wear the gable.

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Speaker 4: Yes, maybe they would because those sheep have been spared,

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Speaker 4: so that that's why I'm in favor of this. But

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Speaker 4: I'm just wondering if those poor sheep are shivering and

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Speaker 4: their wool is sheer.

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Speaker 2: Look, they're alive, Okay, they could be warmer and dead.

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Speaker 2: You can't have everything.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's a fair point there, all right.

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Speaker 2: When we come back Rob Bonta, who apparently there's a

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Speaker 2: compromising video of himself, but supposedly it has to do

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Speaker 2: with being involved in a conversation with a donor who

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Speaker 2: was involved in legal activities. Not that he's a furry,

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Speaker 2: not that there's any gay sheep in the video.

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Speaker 3: This is kind of boring.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's excited. I know. I wanted. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to make people like stick through your news thinking

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Speaker 2: they're gonna hear some audio and Rob Bonta with the

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Speaker 2: terrible news right, doing what I can here anyway, that's

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