Speaker 1: Help We Suck At Being Newlywed?
Speaker 2: Wit Dean Aunglert, Kaylen Miller Keys, and Jared haven An
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3: What is going on?
Speaker 1: Everybody? Welcome to an all new episode of Help We
Speaker 1: Suck At Being Newlyweds? My name is Dean Bell, joined
Speaker 1: here live in studio from our house in Las Vegas
Speaker 1: by Kaylin Bell. Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 4: Kaalen, thank you.
Speaker 2: You know I'm quite jet locked and been waking up
Speaker 2: at three am every morning, and when I couldn't sleep
Speaker 2: this morning and was wide awake, I was thinking, isn't
Speaker 2: it crazy that I'll never call myself KAILN Miller Keys
Speaker 2: ever again? And you'll never be An Unglert ever again.
Speaker 3: It's crazy?
Speaker 4: Wait, hows that hate you?
Speaker 1: It has hit me because on my Instagram I have
Speaker 1: Dean Michael Bell and we get a lot, not a lot,
Speaker 1: but we get brand deals through Instagram, and so I'll
Speaker 1: get brands sending me contracts for deals that say Dean
Speaker 1: Michael Bell on them, and I'm like, well no, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait wait, it's got to say Dean Unglert on it.
Speaker 1: Because if I go to the bank with the check
Speaker 1: that says Dean Bell they're going to be like, what
Speaker 1: the heck is this? So in a way it's kind
Speaker 1: of nice to like test the waters a little bit
Speaker 1: and feel it out and like understand how it's going
Speaker 1: to feel. But I you know, I'm still Denungler and
Speaker 1: you're still keeling other keys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like you said, instagram wise, it's official.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but I guess I'm saying it's just a
Speaker 1: bit of a tedious experience to have to go back
Speaker 1: to the brand and be like, now we need to
Speaker 1: put Dean Angler down it instead of Dean Bell.
Speaker 3: So so right now it.
Speaker 2: Still gets checks though well, like a contract depositive.
Speaker 1: Contract, I don't know if it would work if my
Speaker 1: name was different than the name on the account on
Speaker 1: the contract. But all that to say, as of now,
Speaker 1: it's only been a nuisance the name.
Speaker 4: Change, and we haven't even done it yet.
Speaker 3: Well, once we do it, it'll be no longer a newsance,
Speaker 3: I know, but I.
Speaker 2: Think the doing it is going to be a nuisance
Speaker 2: as well, as we've heard from several people.
Speaker 1: Just like moving into a new house due can't wait
Speaker 1: thout doing it of it that stinks.
Speaker 2: I think it's really fun because it's an opportunity to purge.
Speaker 2: Now to moving, it's an opportunity to purge, and it's
Speaker 2: an opportunity to get organized. So you purge when you're packing,
Speaker 2: and then you organize when you unpack. It is my dream,
Speaker 2: Perge pack, Perge pack.
Speaker 3: How many square feet is our new house?
Speaker 4: Twenty eight hundred?
Speaker 5: Maybe?
Speaker 4: No way, maybe twenty five.
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's kind of big, kind of parent
Speaker 1: has nineteen hundred.
Speaker 4: I thought it was twenty.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess no, you're right, it's got to be twenty
Speaker 1: five because we have the same amount of bedrooms, but
Speaker 1: then we also have that office, and then we also
Speaker 1: have that upstairs like room.
Speaker 2: So I was looking at it this morning while I
Speaker 2: couldn't sleep.
Speaker 1: So I guess all that to say is we're probably
Speaker 1: gonna have to end up buying more for sure? Nice,
Speaker 1: Oh for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean we've wor adding a bedroom or an office, right.
Speaker 3: Because right now we just use one bedroom as an office.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was thinking about this. I've been thinking
Speaker 2: a lot because I've been up since three A. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's here when this airs. People don't typically listen on
Speaker 2: a Sunday night. Let's say airs Monday morning. That'll be
Speaker 2: our closing day of the house. Wow, so it will
Speaker 2: be official. I don't know if it's like by five
Speaker 2: pm or what.
Speaker 3: But happy closing day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pumped.
Speaker 6: Yay.
Speaker 4: I can't freaking wait.
Speaker 3: We have a house.
Speaker 4: Well, on Monday, I.
Speaker 1: Was looking at rental rates in our neighborhood now in Vegas,
Speaker 1: and there's a house down the street that's renting for
Speaker 1: not as much as I would be hoping to get
Speaker 1: for this house.
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 4: Does it have a pool?
Speaker 5: Is basic?
Speaker 1: It's pretty basic?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But still if I was looking at rent a house
Speaker 1: in this neighborhood and I saw their house and then
Speaker 1: our house, which was a couple hundred bucks more, I'd probably, Oh,
Speaker 1: that house is cheaper.
Speaker 4: Who doesn't want to pull? You have to have a pool?
Speaker 4: And I guess, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 1: You're right. And there's a beautiful deck in the backyard garden.
Speaker 4: There's a lot we have done.
Speaker 1: And then I was wondering too, if we rent out
Speaker 1: our house and the deck collapses and someone breaks their leg,
Speaker 1: do I get sued?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe, I mean it's up to code and everything, but
Speaker 1: like you know.
Speaker 4: Then that's on them for breaking the plank.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then I charged them counter suit.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So should we talk about our honeymoon?
Speaker 1: Yeah, our honeymoon that we just got back from. Do
Speaker 1: you want to talk about it? Feel free? I need
Speaker 1: to take a sip of my coffee.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: It was amazing, And I know it doesn't sound like
Speaker 2: I'm very enthusiastic, but I'm just a little exhausted. It
Speaker 2: was amazing, It was great. It was the best trip
Speaker 2: of my entire life. It was the coolest trip of
Speaker 2: my entire life. Thank you nat Geo for inviting Dean
Speaker 2: and also inviting me. It was exactly what we wanted
Speaker 2: for our honeymoon, and if I were to plan it,
Speaker 2: I would not have planned it as well as what
Speaker 2: Nagio did. What was really cool about our trip, and
Speaker 2: something that we wouldn't have gotten if we had planned
Speaker 2: it ourselves, is that we had Chloe and Sophie on
Speaker 2: our trip. And Chloe is a showrunner for Queens, which
Speaker 2: is a nat Geo show that comes out in March.
Speaker 2: Sophie is a very talented cinematographer who's also on Queen's.
Speaker 2: So we are going on safaris every day and we
Speaker 2: have these two nat Geo professionals who have been in
Speaker 2: the business for years, doing this for years, just learning
Speaker 2: from them and having them narrate every situation, like a
Speaker 2: lion is about is hunting an antelope?
Speaker 4: What was that they hunt?
Speaker 1: Thanks? Yeah, so long while?
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyways, it's hunting, and Sophie is narrating exactly what's happening,
Speaker 2: and every time an animal pops up, she can predict
Speaker 2: its move, which was so cool. It was so wild
Speaker 2: also to get behind the scenes of nat Geo. I
Speaker 2: feel like everyone watches those shows or those documentaries and
Speaker 2: they're like, okay, but like, how long are they there?
Speaker 2: What is the how did they fly their drone behind
Speaker 2: this bug?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: Like, and we got the answers to all those questions,
Speaker 2: which was so so cool. And I have such a
Speaker 2: greater appreciation for everyone that works for nat Geo and
Speaker 2: Cretzy shows because it takes a lot of work and
Speaker 2: Queens took was it four years? Four years to make?
Speaker 2: Four years? Also one of the episodes in Queens, I'm
Speaker 2: super obsessed with the show. I can't wait for everyone
Speaker 2: to watch it. Well, one is about lines and hyenas,
Speaker 2: that is incredible, but one's about elephants and they said
Speaker 2: they were there with the elephants for fourteen days waiting
Speaker 2: for an elephant to give birth, left and.
Speaker 4: That day it gave birth.
Speaker 2: So it was just like, you can't predict nature, you
Speaker 2: can't predict wildlife. And oh, they're just the coolest people,
Speaker 2: chloeing Sophie, I'm very obsessed with them.
Speaker 1: What was your favorite moment?
Speaker 4: Ooh, oh, it's.
Speaker 2: Just it sounds so basic now because everyone said it,
Speaker 2: but seeing the lion cubs was the coolest thing ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, our first day on safari, we got really spoiled.
Speaker 1: We were there's probably about twelve of us, and so
Speaker 1: we're kind of rolling deep players like four cars that
Speaker 1: would kind of like go out on their own and
Speaker 1: then if anything interesting came along, they're drivers would radio
Speaker 1: the other drivers for them to come see what we
Speaker 1: were seeing. And so that very first safari we did
Speaker 1: in the Serengetti, it was amazing. And by the time
Speaker 1: sunset came around, you know, after I think we had
Speaker 1: just had a half day that day because we had
Speaker 1: gotten in earlier that day. By the time sunset came around,
Speaker 1: we pulled up on these three lions and they are
Speaker 1: two baby cubs, and it was one of the cutest
Speaker 1: things ever. These cubs must have only been a few
Speaker 1: months old. They're running around snarling at.
Speaker 4: It like picture Simba and knowledge.
Speaker 1: It was Simba and all.
Speaker 4: It was crazy.
Speaker 3: They were like playing with each other.
Speaker 1: They were like tackling each other, and then like the
Speaker 1: parents were just like over there, not really paying attention
Speaker 1: and not caring, and it was just very very cute.
Speaker 1: And then like the kids would go up and try
Speaker 1: to mess with their parents and they would like, just
Speaker 1: like a regular parent, what they would like just shrug
Speaker 1: them off and be like, get away from me.
Speaker 2: And the cubs would come up to our cars, and
Speaker 2: someone on our trip got a video of the cubs
Speaker 2: chewing on the tires like they were super super close
Speaker 2: to us, and Sophie again, great to have her there.
Speaker 2: She was like, that was a mom that's had a
Speaker 2: lot of babies because she was totally fine letting her
Speaker 2: babies go and be free, and like a newer parent
Speaker 2: wouldn't give their cub that much freedom. And so the
Speaker 2: next day we're looking for the same cubs and we
Speaker 2: see a little leg hanging down from a tree. So
Speaker 2: the cubs had climbed up into a tree and Sophie says, yep,
Speaker 2: the mom's hunting there, that the cubs go into the
Speaker 2: tree when the mom's hunting, and then lo and behold.
Speaker 2: We pull up like four hundred feet and the mom's hunting,
Speaker 2: and she narrated the whole thing and she's like, everyone,
Speaker 2: get down, nobody moved, nobody talk. She is in hunting mode.
Speaker 2: If you, you know, put any body parts out of
Speaker 2: the car, it might still startle her. She might come
Speaker 2: after you. And then we got to watch her hunt,
Speaker 2: but she didn't kill anything. And I kind of wanted
Speaker 2: to see an animal kill another animal because that's part
Speaker 2: of the experience.
Speaker 4: It's a circle of life.
Speaker 1: YadA YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA YadA.
Speaker 2: Actually people say that, but in hindsight, I'm kind of
Speaker 2: happy we didn't see it because it really would discover you.
Speaker 3: You would have enjoyed seeing it.
Speaker 2: No, it's the sounds that I wouldn't be able to
Speaker 2: deal with, like like an animal crying out and help.
Speaker 6: You would have.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a lot, but I think that you would
Speaker 1: have appreciated it more than you would have been upset
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 4: I guess we'll never know until we go back.
Speaker 1: That's kind of the one thing that I wish we
Speaker 1: would have seen, and like you kind of nailed on
Speaker 1: the head. You know, we saw those things except for the.
Speaker 3: Kill and it.
Speaker 1: You know, these animals are hunting in the morning and
Speaker 1: in the afternoons, and we didn't really get to see
Speaker 1: any real interaction in that manner when we were there,
Speaker 1: which is a big bummer. But we were only there
Speaker 1: for three days on Safari, and we still saw so much.
Speaker 1: We saw a jaguar in a tree, a leopard in
Speaker 1: a tree, and Chloe, the showrunner, had never seen a
Speaker 1: leopard before, and so we pull up. It's just hanging
Speaker 1: in the tree. It's pretty hot, so it's panting really hard,
Speaker 1: not moving at all, and Chloe like gets up and
Speaker 1: sees it. You know, you're fifty feet away, and she
Speaker 1: just starts breaking down into tears because she's spent so
Speaker 1: much time out there filming and working and she's never
Speaker 1: seen a leopard before. So we were so lucky in
Speaker 1: so many ways to see the cubs the first night,
Speaker 1: to see the leopard the second day. On the third
Speaker 1: day of Safari, our third and last day, we saw
Speaker 1: r We saw a rhino not very close, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 1: But we saw like a a little serval.
Speaker 4: I looked it up yesterday.
Speaker 1: Nice. I was never gonna get that so good stuff,
Speaker 1: but I'm looking that up. We saw a little servil
Speaker 1: and the driver of the Safari car was like, we
Speaker 1: never see these. This is like once every few months occasion.
Speaker 1: So we did get to see a lot of really
Speaker 1: cool animals.
Speaker 2: And he pulled out his book and it says, if
Speaker 2: you see a server, consider yourself extremely, extremely lucky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was great all around.
Speaker 1: I kept equating it back to when I was in
Speaker 1: Patagonia and doing the puma tracking, and when I was there,
Speaker 1: the only time you'd really see pumas is when they
Speaker 1: were feeding. And so you know, you see a giant
Speaker 1: cat standing over at Guanaco eating, it's ripping its guts out.
Speaker 1: It's cool because there's a lot going on, and it's
Speaker 1: a lot like it's very really dynamic, as like if
Speaker 1: someone that's taking pictures or videos. And so that's just
Speaker 1: what kind of my one bummer about Africas. We didn't
Speaker 1: really get to see any of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what was cool. So it was a big group.
Speaker 2: I think there were nineteen of us is what they said.
Speaker 2: At one point the last day, we had the option
Speaker 2: to go back, go to the hotel rest. You know,
Speaker 2: everyone's pretty jet lagged, go into the town. They give
Speaker 2: us a few different options. We had been on safari
Speaker 2: since six am, and we ended up staying with another couple.
Speaker 2: It was lovely and a person who wrote for I
Speaker 2: was going to say a person from the press Dalton
Speaker 2: who yes, a journalist, thank you, Gosh's servial.
Speaker 1: But you couldn't get journalists, I guess not.
Speaker 2: So it was the five of us who all really
Speaker 2: cared about taking photos, who all really cared about Safari,
Speaker 2: like enough to be there for twelve hours. And so
Speaker 2: we sat and waited for it because the other thing
Speaker 2: we didn't get to see. We saw lions. But in
Speaker 2: the Gore and Goro crater there are black main lions.
Speaker 1: You got in Gordon Goro, but you didn't get journalists.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I can to say I'm dumb.
Speaker 3: It's impressive.
Speaker 1: It's like your brain is so sharp it can only
Speaker 1: remember the really challenging things, and it's like I don't
Speaker 1: even need to remember the easy words journalists.
Speaker 2: Uh So in the crater there are black main lions
Speaker 2: and that's something we also really wanted to see. And
Speaker 2: so another Safari truck let our guide know that a
Speaker 2: black main lion just went into the bushes he was hunting.
Speaker 2: So we all waited, and it was nice to have
Speaker 2: people who are patient and willing to wait. We waited
Speaker 2: for like thirty minutes, just sitting there. Nothing's happening, like
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing's happening. But we got like this smallest little
Speaker 2: sliver into what being a now geo cinematographer is.
Speaker 3: Like, because out of downtime, oh.
Speaker 4: My gosh, they just sit there for hours and hours.
Speaker 1: I was really impressed by your ability to be patient.
Speaker 1: I thought that that was going to be an issue
Speaker 1: that we were going to be faced with where I
Speaker 1: wanted to be. I wanted to like sit there for
Speaker 1: a long time and wait for something to develop. And
Speaker 1: then I thought that you were going to get bored
Speaker 1: and over it.
Speaker 2: Really no, I wanted to, but I also, you know,
Speaker 2: we're with three strangers, essentially, I didn't want to pressure them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're out there for that, right, So.
Speaker 2: It was cool that we all had it similar interests.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Also, we saw so this bug landed on me and
Speaker 2: I was like you know, I hate bugs, but one
Speaker 2: of the shows in now Geo is a real bugs life,
Speaker 2: and it did give me a new appreciation for bugs.
Speaker 1: I will say the pretty one.
Speaker 4: Yes, this bug landed on me.
Speaker 1: Earlier in the same day, another bug landed on you.
Speaker 1: Maybe not quite as an aesthetically please bug, but it
Speaker 1: landed on you, and you were like, flicked it off
Speaker 1: and punched me in the stomach because you're because.
Speaker 3: You're flicking it off so hard.
Speaker 1: So let's not go ahead and say that you had
Speaker 1: some big, profound moment where you now you're okay.
Speaker 4: If it's got stingers, I don't like it.
Speaker 3: You need to stingers. How do you know the cute
Speaker 3: bug didn't have stingers.
Speaker 4: I looked closely at it before.
Speaker 3: I before you freaked out.
Speaker 1: It's just like you look closely at the one that
Speaker 1: you flicked me and punched me in theyways.
Speaker 2: Progress was made, Yes, progress was made, and there was
Speaker 2: This bug is the most beautiful bug I've ever seen
Speaker 2: in my entire life. I will post it closer to
Speaker 2: a real Bug's Life premiere, but I guess I could
Speaker 2: just tell you what it is.
Speaker 4: It's called a poocasso bug. If you want to look
Speaker 4: it up. It is gorgeous. It's correct.
Speaker 3: Did you do for this podcast?
Speaker 1: Because you're getting all these words nailed right on the head.
Speaker 2: Oh, I swear I remember everything except common knowledge. I
Speaker 2: retained a lot of information. You asked me about hyenas.
Speaker 2: Hyenas are the strongest and biggest. I mean sorry, female
Speaker 2: hyenas are stronger and bigger than the males. They have
Speaker 2: something called.
Speaker 3: A say it, say it, we'll bleep it out.
Speaker 1: Say it.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I know the old term is pseudo penis.
Speaker 3: We want the new term, new age term, something megic.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyways, the hyenas is jaredy Hey, Jed, welcome.
Speaker 3: To the Mega conversation.
Speaker 5: Just wanted to make sure I inserted myself with mega.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, hyenas are so fascinating. What so scientists used
Speaker 2: to believe? I'm sorry that I'm going to pour people.
Speaker 2: It was a pseudo penis. They have this it looks
Speaker 2: like a penis and it's not. It's called a mega.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if we have to bleep out
Speaker 1: that word. But' it's it's a like a biological.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe something google of female hyena.
Speaker 1: But then they have to but also maybe don't unless
Speaker 1: you're willing to see what that looks.
Speaker 4: Like, or just watch Queens twenty four.
Speaker 3: It's nature, so it can't be offensive, I.
Speaker 2: Guess, so yeah, but I mean, I was even telling
Speaker 2: Dean this yesterday. I was editing photos of an elephant,
Speaker 2: and the female elephants love them, but the male elephants,
Speaker 2: the photos of them are something else because they've got.
Speaker 1: Some dregs, one on the front, one of the back,
Speaker 1: things going on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, I'm so sorry, I'm late.
Speaker 5: So we got slammed at Audrey's, which of course is
Speaker 5: a great thing.
Speaker 1: Who the heck is going into a coffee shop at
Speaker 1: noon to order food?
Speaker 5: Honestly. So I went to the gym this morning. I've
Speaker 5: been going to the gym in the morning when I
Speaker 5: wake up. I began up early, like seven am, and
Speaker 5: I just get out of bed and I go to
Speaker 5: the gym. And I've been doing it for like a
Speaker 5: week and a half. If I'm able to, if I'm
Speaker 5: not working the night before. I know they say that
Speaker 5: you should go to the gym early in the morning.
Speaker 5: I've never really believed in it, and now I'm addicted
Speaker 5: because I swear to God, I've had lower back pain
Speaker 5: for months, been killing me, hindering me, and it's like gone,
Speaker 5: and I'm not doing anything differently. The only thing I'm
Speaker 5: doing differently is as soon as I get up, I
Speaker 5: go directly the gym and I work out for like
Speaker 5: forty five and it's and then I swear to God,
Speaker 5: it's just like, oh my, I don't know, it's really
Speaker 5: highly recommend it anyway. Point is, So then I went
Speaker 5: into Audrews afterwards to get coffee make sure they're doing
Speaker 5: okay because I'm going in later at tonight because we
Speaker 5: have a party. And then there was like a party
Speaker 5: of fifteen women coming in at ten, so I was like,
Speaker 5: let make sure they're all set up ready to go,
Speaker 5: and then they were pretty busy when I walked in
Speaker 5: at like eight forty five, and then so I was like,
Speaker 5: all right, I'll stay to make sure you know you
Speaker 5: get through it. And then dude, it just did not stop.
Speaker 5: Of course, a great thing, but I haven't seen it
Speaker 5: this busy in a while, and all of us were like,
Speaker 5: what did we get promoted on TV? And I have
Speaker 5: no idea this happened because it was Banana Land. It
Speaker 5: was great.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's your first look exposure that you're getting.
Speaker 5: Maybe, I mean, that's definitely plausible because there's I mean,
Speaker 5: or maybe just everybody's shopping today. I don't really know.
Speaker 3: It's a great story, man. We were just recapping our honeymoon.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so, how so all right? I followed long on
Speaker 5: social media obviously, Kitlin, you did a great job posting
Speaker 5: dian As always did nothing. But so you went to Tanzania.
Speaker 4: Tanzania, Yes, it is okay?
Speaker 5: Was that the only stop?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went to So we started in Kilimanjaros where
Speaker 2: we flew into, drove to Arusha, It's like an hour
Speaker 2: and a half, and then took a small plane to
Speaker 2: the Serengetti and then took another small plane.
Speaker 5: To all small of these planes are we're talking about
Speaker 5: ten people?
Speaker 4: Ten people? Yeah, hello, so scary? Did it three times?
Speaker 2: The third time was super cloudy and flying to those
Speaker 2: clouds is absolutely terrifying.
Speaker 1: I thought the second time was the scariest. So they're
Speaker 1: short flights. They're about an hour flight and it's a
Speaker 1: slow plane. It probably only goes like one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty miles an hour. But the second flight from the
Speaker 1: Serengetti to Gorongo Crater, it was really cloudy, and these planes,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'm no plane guy, but they
Speaker 1: seemed a little older, so they're probably on mostly analog
Speaker 1: flight systems. And we're flying through these clouds, look out
Speaker 1: the window, no visibility whatsoever. And I was like kind
Speaker 1: of running through my head. You know, it's probably like
Speaker 1: almost infintesibly small for you to run thank you for
Speaker 1: you to crash into another airplane, Like even if you
Speaker 1: didn't have navigation systems, the chances of like hitting another
Speaker 1: airplane in the air are probably so so small, but
Speaker 1: you always think there's gonna be that one time.
Speaker 4: I'm glad I wasn't alone in that too.
Speaker 1: But my fallo up theory to that, not theory, but
Speaker 1: my outlook is what am I going to do?
Speaker 3: Sitting in the plane.
Speaker 1: I can either be scared or not scared, because there's
Speaker 1: nothing I can change that might as well just not
Speaker 1: be scared. But so we're flying through the clouds, descending
Speaker 1: towards our landing strip, can't see anything, and I'm like
Speaker 1: these pilots they got it, they're professionals. And then the landing,
Speaker 1: it was like it felt like we were landing on
Speaker 1: a Colombian airport. In the middle of the Amazon with
Speaker 1: fifty kiloads of drugs, just because it was like this
Speaker 1: long dirt runway and there was like travel It was
Speaker 1: a short right, but it was like just a very
Speaker 1: prominent dirt runway. I guess what I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: nothing around it, just a dirt runway surrounded by like
Speaker 1: the like it wasn't Amazon obviously, but like rainforest type
Speaker 1: setting with this like really lush and it just felt
Speaker 1: like we were about to jump out and there was
Speaker 1: going to be like the federal drug agents were going
Speaker 1: to be there waiting for us to be arrested or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that was really cool.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, and then we took another flight back
Speaker 1: down to the airport and.
Speaker 4: That was one of five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that just sounds like the complete opposite of what
Speaker 5: I would want to do on my honeymoon. But that's
Speaker 5: so amazing for you both, I mean so sweet that
Speaker 5: you guys had that experience together.
Speaker 2: It was a dream honeymoon for us because I mean,
Speaker 2: playing so side, I do have very bad flight anxiety,
Speaker 2: but we have done trips like to the Maldives, and
Speaker 2: it just gets you know, more so Dean than me
Speaker 2: Dean gets bored quicker than I do.
Speaker 4: But just to you know, this isn't for everyone.
Speaker 2: But waking up at six am each morning, going on safari,
Speaker 2: seeing animals, taking photos, eating amazing food, like it really was,
Speaker 2: I feel like the perfect honeymoon for us.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, GEO did a great job of the accommodations.
Speaker 1: While we were there. The first day or the first
Speaker 1: we said at three different hotels. The first hotel was
Speaker 1: like this really nice coffee lodge in Arishow, which is
Speaker 1: which is okay. But then we went and said the
Speaker 1: four seasons in the Serengetti, which was amazing.
Speaker 2: And in dry season, so they have a man made
Speaker 2: watering hole.
Speaker 4: Thank you, a man made watering hole.
Speaker 2: And in the dry season there's no water, so all
Speaker 2: of the elephants flocked to the pool. So you're like
Speaker 2: waiting by the pool and all these elephants are coming.
Speaker 5: But it was it was that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: What season?
Speaker 2: So they have plenty of water plenty which is good
Speaker 2: because we learned there with climate change, a lot of
Speaker 2: elephants are dying, a lot of animals are dying because
Speaker 2: there's very little water.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm happy that it's not.
Speaker 1: Yes, so we stayed the four seasons. That was nice,
Speaker 1: obviously it's the four seasons, and then we stayed. After that,
Speaker 1: we went to an even more incredible hotel, Gorongo Crater
Speaker 1: Lodge at the Gorongo Crater and yeah, there's an at
Speaker 1: the beginning, but I don't believe you pronounce it.
Speaker 4: Okay, go On Goro.
Speaker 1: I think it's funny because if you take the end
Speaker 1: at the front of the world and put it at
Speaker 1: the back of the word, it would just be gore On.
Speaker 3: Gore On, and gore On is a thing.
Speaker 1: It's like a species, like a race from my favorite
Speaker 1: video game, Legend of Zelda. So it's just it's kind
Speaker 1: of a funny. Every time I saw it, I was
Speaker 1: like goro on. Anyways, so we go to the Goro
Speaker 1: and Goro Creator and.
Speaker 3: We stay at this lodge and so what the crater is.
Speaker 1: It's a creator that was created three and a half million,
Speaker 1: four million years ago.
Speaker 4: Seventh Wonder of the World.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just that's just the thing people say about
Speaker 1: everything that's amazing that qualify as wonder.
Speaker 5: One of the seven Wonders of the world.
Speaker 3: They called it the eighth Wonder of the World.
Speaker 1: As you do about amazing things that don't quite It
Speaker 1: was amazing and it should have been. I just don't
Speaker 1: think it was classified as an official wonder of the world.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if there are official classifications of
Speaker 1: wonders of the world.
Speaker 3: I don't think there is. I think it's a subjective list.
Speaker 5: They changed them, right, because aren't there like the Seven
Speaker 5: Ancients or the seventh Wonders of the Ancient World, and
Speaker 5: now there's the Seven Wonders of the New World or
Speaker 5: something like that.
Speaker 1: I think it's also still subjective, like people are like, well,
Speaker 1: this is what we think the seven Wonders are.
Speaker 3: Anyways, that's beside the point.
Speaker 1: So the crater was created four million years ago, and
Speaker 1: it's this it's a crater obviously, and it's two thousand
Speaker 1: feet down from the top of the crater ridge into
Speaker 1: the crater. Is this like this twenty what would it
Speaker 1: be like forty square acre forty square kilometers.
Speaker 4: So it was like twenty eight kilometers twenty kilometers.
Speaker 5: Bro, there's a lot of numbers being thrown at me
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 3: Well, it's ten kilometers.
Speaker 5: It's a deep hole.
Speaker 1: It's just basically like this really great biodome micro climate
Speaker 1: for wildlife to thrive, and so you stay the hotel
Speaker 1: that we stayed, it was right on the very top
Speaker 1: of the ridge, and so you can look over the
Speaker 1: ridge into this crater.
Speaker 3: And the hotel itself was.
Speaker 1: Like really bohemian boutique style where it felt like you
Speaker 1: were walking into like a lion witch in the wardrobe
Speaker 1: setting or like a what did you call it.
Speaker 2: It reminded me of a series of unfortunate event, series
Speaker 2: of unfortunate events.
Speaker 3: I kind of thought it was like Jumanji vibes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little Jumanji as well.
Speaker 1: It was amazing, that's nice, and the staff there was incredible,
Speaker 1: and so just the accommodations, that's the whole point of
Speaker 1: my story is the accommodations alone were worth the trip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in that place, what it was just like, it
Speaker 2: was so romantic, it was so beautiful. If we were
Speaker 2: to travel back to a place like, that's where I
Speaker 2: want to go back to. It was very hard to
Speaker 2: get to, very long flight, but one hundred percent worth it.
Speaker 2: And I think everyone should go to Tanzany if they
Speaker 2: have the opportunity to, because it is truly magical, just
Speaker 2: like being surrounded by incredible people, incredible animals and everyone
Speaker 2: really who you know, are guides, Like they really do
Speaker 2: care for the animals and they want the best for
Speaker 2: the animals, but they also want you to have a
Speaker 2: good experience, but at no cost to the animals, you know,
Speaker 2: like respect to the animals comes first, which I think
Speaker 2: is great.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what's so great about this trip and that
Speaker 1: trip that I was talking about earlier in Patagonia. It
Speaker 1: was more of like you're there to watch them live
Speaker 1: their lives rather than and like you're not going to
Speaker 1: watch them in an enclosure or anything like that. You're like,
Speaker 1: they're living their lives and we're just lucky enough to
Speaker 1: be there to watch for a little bit, you know.
Speaker 2: And they're so close, like a lioness was, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: she walked maybe like a foot from us, maybe closer.
Speaker 2: I was taking a photo and they're like get in,
Speaker 2: like you know, my lens is out, and they're like
Speaker 2: get in right now. And I was like about to
Speaker 2: pee myself. Yeah, we were fine, we were safe.
Speaker 1: I was a little frustrated because I was getting an
Speaker 1: amazing shout with my Instant three sixty and everyone is
Speaker 1: yelling at me to pull my Instan three sixty into the.
Speaker 3: Car fullly so and no it would the shot was
Speaker 3: still good.
Speaker 4: If she looked up and she saw that, we don't
Speaker 4: know what would happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you nat Geo for helping me get the
Speaker 1: shot of a lifetime while at Lion's was on Anti
Speaker 1: sixty out of my hands. Oh sorry, it's not a
Speaker 1: nikon zf. Yeah. The worst part about it was just
Speaker 1: getting there so challenging.
Speaker 2: Getting there wasn't so bad, it was the flight home
Speaker 2: was just brutal, because I mean the jet, the jet lag.
Speaker 2: We finally were getting over the last day, but we
Speaker 2: had five flights to get home.
Speaker 1: Well yes, but also get I don't think one was
Speaker 1: worse than the other. But getting there we missed our
Speaker 1: connecting flight and as right, I forgot, which is brutal.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So in order to even get to kill the Manjara airport, well,
Speaker 1: let's even just say, in order to get to the Serengetti,
Speaker 1: you have to fly. We flew from Vegas to La
Speaker 1: La to Amsterdam. Missed our connection in Amsterdam, so we
Speaker 1: had to fly to Doha, Doha to kill him Anjarro,
Speaker 1: kill him Anjarro to the Sengetti. It was just it's
Speaker 1: a lot of work. And then the way back was
Speaker 1: very much the same way. You know, Serenghetti to kill
Speaker 1: him Anjara, kill him Anjara to Ethiopia, Ethiopia to Dohat
Speaker 1: Doha to La La to Vegas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 2: But the Amsterdam flight was frustrating because we had an
Speaker 2: hour layover to get to our connection. We had a
Speaker 2: forty minute delay and we get off the plane. We
Speaker 2: sprint as fast as we can and it's like you're
Speaker 2: sitting on a bus and you're sitting on a bus
Speaker 2: just stopped, like you dplane sitting on a bus. It's
Speaker 2: not moving, and you're like, if we could just move.
Speaker 1: When you're to make it, when you're in a rush
Speaker 1: and you have to use some sort of like mass
Speaker 1: transit to get somewhere, and they don't share your urgency,
Speaker 1: like they're just driving. They don't know that you're in
Speaker 1: an amazing rush.
Speaker 2: If we sat at a standstill for fifteen minutes, right,
Speaker 2: But I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying it's so frustrating when you know that you need
Speaker 1: to be somewhere and they don't. It's something they don't care.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they sort of care, but they They're just
Speaker 1: going about their day, doing what they need to do.
Speaker 5: That's why I hate relying on public transportation, because it's
Speaker 5: like I just want to draw anywhere we go. I
Speaker 5: always want to drive myself. I want to take my
Speaker 5: own car because like I want to come and go
Speaker 5: as I please. I'm just too old for that. Like
Speaker 5: we got places to go, things to see.
Speaker 1: Same with like elevators. If I'm in a rush, i
Speaker 1: am not taking the elevator, even if the run up
Speaker 1: those things. Even if I get to the top of
Speaker 1: the stairs the same time as the elevator, I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm doing more by running up the stairs.
Speaker 4: That's fair.
Speaker 2: But back to Amsterdam, we're sprinting. We arrive at the
Speaker 2: gate plane still there. There are two people there trying
Speaker 2: to get on the plane as well. The doors are closed,
Speaker 2: but people they let two people on. This was the
Speaker 2: most frustrating thing ever. They let two people on. The
Speaker 2: door was closed and we're like, we're here, like what
Speaker 2: is the deal And they were like, sorry, we already
Speaker 2: rebooked you, so we can't. And I'm like, but our
Speaker 2: seats are empty. We have the tickets on our phone,
Speaker 2: Like this is absolutely crazy, and they're like, sorry, you
Speaker 2: have to wait eight hours for your next flight.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, it was very frustrating, but it was like
Speaker 1: they just were doing what.
Speaker 3: They i know, taught to do.
Speaker 4: For sure.
Speaker 2: It's not their fault by any means, but it's just
Speaker 2: so frustrating when you're literally there, you can see the
Speaker 2: plane they're letting people on, yeah, and they won't let
Speaker 2: you on.
Speaker 1: And all have to say, we did, we made it
Speaker 1: to a destination. On the way there, we were twelve
Speaker 1: hours late. We didn't miss anything, but it would have
Speaker 1: been nice to have that extra night to adjust more
Speaker 1: to the time. Like you know, we got there, so
Speaker 1: Tanzania or and Kilimanjaro I think is thirteen hours ahead or
Speaker 1: eleven hours ahead of West Coast time, so it's literally
Speaker 1: just a complete flip on the other side. If it's
Speaker 1: four pm there, it's four am here. And so just
Speaker 1: the adjustment, it took us three to four days to
Speaker 1: even start to kind of get a normal sleep schedule.
Speaker 1: So the next day there would have been nice. And
Speaker 1: then I'm ranting. I guess that's why we have a podcast,
Speaker 1: so we can rant. And then it's like by the
Speaker 1: time you start feeling normal with your body and the
Speaker 1: time and everything, it's time to leave and go home,
Speaker 1: and now we're still paying for the price on this
Speaker 1: end of it where we're trying to just back to
Speaker 1: this time because we're still on Tanzania time, right.
Speaker 5: That's why anytime we travel overseas, it's like we have
Speaker 5: to be there for at least a week.
Speaker 1: A week, yeah, and the further you like, well they
Speaker 1: say this is the rule of them that I've been
Speaker 1: taught for every time zone change, like for every one
Speaker 1: hour difference, you need to spend a day there. So
Speaker 1: like if you.
Speaker 5: Think you guys should have been there for fifteen days exactly.
Speaker 1: So if we travel to London, I think that's like
Speaker 1: seven hours or something, we have to spend a week
Speaker 1: there before we're fully adjusted.
Speaker 2: And we're going to Australia next month for three days,
Speaker 2: so that's going to be a little brutal.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, maybe world travels you Yeah, there're I mean,
Speaker 7: we're yeah, we've kind of made a commitment to not
Speaker 7: travel personally, like to not travel for fun as much.
Speaker 3: But these are all kind of like work quote.
Speaker 1: Unquote work things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's still.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: You guys aren't moving like, yeah, well, that's why we
Speaker 1: made the commitment to not like take leisure travel right,
Speaker 1: which we still will.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna do like one trip a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do need to slow down. But if it's
Speaker 2: you know, this was we can call it work. Australia,
Speaker 2: we can call it work.
Speaker 3: This was not to you always definitely work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so work trips only it was the trip
Speaker 2: of a lifetime.
Speaker 5: Did you feel safe on the safaris because this is
Speaker 5: like listen, of course, safaris are so much better than zoos,
Speaker 5: it's not even comparable. But I saw some of your
Speaker 5: videos Kalin, and like you said, you're just describing the
Speaker 5: lin one s walking right next to you. So are
Speaker 5: you guys in these shuttles or these buses that have cages?
Speaker 1: No there, Well, so they're land cruisers. They're modified land cruisers.
Speaker 1: So they're not like buses or shuttles like you probably
Speaker 1: are thinking they're there. They're modified land cruises, cruisers with
Speaker 1: like a pop top and sliding windows, and so you
Speaker 1: can stick your hand out the side and take pictures.
Speaker 1: You can stick your head out the roof and take pictures.
Speaker 1: But the car only seats eight people.
Speaker 2: But the rule that we have learned is animals think
Speaker 2: that the car is just one thing, Like they don't
Speaker 2: know that there's a bunch of humans in there that
Speaker 2: they can kill. So unless you're like hanging out of
Speaker 2: the side of the car, they're not going to come
Speaker 2: at you.
Speaker 1: Kind of a lot of similar psychology to road rage. People
Speaker 1: get road rage because they're getting mad at the car,
Speaker 1: not the person inside the car. If they were getting
Speaker 1: if they knew or if they could better associate the
Speaker 1: person into the car, there'd be a lot less road
Speaker 1: rage because they just see a car cut them off
Speaker 1: and they're like, screw that car. Yeah, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like animals.
Speaker 4: I can I can see where you're coming from.
Speaker 1: I think I heard that once, so I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm making it up.
Speaker 5: So what was the coolest animal that you guys saw?
Speaker 5: What was your favorite? What was your favorite moment?
Speaker 2: We touched on this a little bit were the lion cubs.
Speaker 2: But I also really fell in love with hyenas. Again,
Speaker 2: going back to the nat Geo show, they have an
Speaker 2: episode on lions and hyenas. So the show is called
Speaker 2: Queen's and it's all about female animals and just the
Speaker 2: way that they are amazing creatures.
Speaker 4: And the lionesses are absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2: That female hyenas are just so cool and they are
Speaker 2: they rule the pack like the men cower behind them.
Speaker 2: They're like kind of afraid to have sex with them
Speaker 2: because the females can overpower them and.
Speaker 4: Kill them, and.
Speaker 2: They're just like, Yeah, lions and hyenas were just so
Speaker 2: cool to watch. And then obviously elephants are amazing, and
Speaker 2: what was.
Speaker 5: It about hyenas that made them so cool? Because I
Speaker 5: gotta be honest, when I go on a safari, I'm
Speaker 5: not thinking about hyaenas well.
Speaker 2: I don't want to give away the show, but when
Speaker 2: you watch the episode, you just have like such a
Speaker 2: greater appreciation for hyenas and how strong they are and
Speaker 2: the way that they're like they can take over their
Speaker 2: hierarchy is just it's wild.
Speaker 3: They get a bad rap.
Speaker 1: They are villainized in every piece of literature that we
Speaker 1: have absorbed. Moved these lion king, the.
Speaker 5: Lion king, I mean, really, let's just get to the
Speaker 5: root cause of it. The lion King villainized hya for sure,
Speaker 5: and they are.
Speaker 1: Kind of, I guess like the villains of this but
Speaker 1: they're so cool and they're so sweet that we saw
Speaker 1: a bunch of.
Speaker 2: Little Hyaena that male lions are worse.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. They're just as bad as hyena.
Speaker 5: Like that, Okay, more like scot slander against Ufossa.
Speaker 2: I can tell you off airs some sick things that
Speaker 2: male lions do.
Speaker 1: They are not let's just say it on air.
Speaker 4: No, I don't know why.
Speaker 5: It's a lion. It's not a human.
Speaker 3: You can't spoil the ending.
Speaker 4: Right, I just I don't want to. I don't know.
Speaker 4: If there's something in the show, I'll just share it.
Speaker 4: Then what are you saying?
Speaker 1: Just like give a like a quick so so, Jared,
Speaker 1: you missed this part. But we were hanging out with
Speaker 1: two like pretty highly esteemed that Geo film people that
Speaker 1: were answering a lot of questions about their experiences filming
Speaker 1: and everything. So one of them was like a showrunner
Speaker 1: and one of them was like a head of uh
Speaker 1: of videography cinematography.
Speaker 4: He's just a very very well known cinematographer.
Speaker 1: So talented, so highly esteemed. She was saying that there
Speaker 1: was one night they filmed stuff that they couldn't even
Speaker 1: put in in the show, the Geo Show, because it
Speaker 1: was that graphic.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I asked him what the grossest thing they've seen in
Speaker 2: They're like this what you're about to watch? But we
Speaker 2: didn't actually air what the gross thing?
Speaker 5: But they have spoiling the show?
Speaker 3: No, well, no, I won't spoil anything.
Speaker 1: So they have to watch all the footage obviously to
Speaker 1: see what they should and shouldn't use. And there's this
Speaker 1: one scene they were filming at night in the gore
Speaker 1: on Goro Crater.
Speaker 5: And set the scene for me, Dean, I'm going to
Speaker 5: close my eyes and try to They were they were.
Speaker 1: The first ever film crew to get in there to
Speaker 1: film at night in the history of what we were,
Speaker 1: no at least.
Speaker 3: And there was this this male lion.
Speaker 1: There's these three sisters that kind of like run the
Speaker 1: show out there, and there's this male lion that came
Speaker 1: in and wanted to like establish dominance in.
Speaker 5: The three The three sisters are lions. These are not humans.
Speaker 3: Three lion sisters. That's right, got it.
Speaker 5: Three line sisters, one male lion.
Speaker 2: But typically the male lions won't stick around, so they
Speaker 2: like impregnate and then they leave. But a good male
Speaker 2: will stick by their side and raise the babies.
Speaker 3: Which is so typical to hims as well.
Speaker 2: That this this lioness, the dad left, so she has
Speaker 2: these babies and this mail comes in and he wants
Speaker 2: then so in order to come into the pack with
Speaker 2: these lionesses, he has to kill the babies.
Speaker 1: I thought I was telling the story because you're too
Speaker 1: straight too, thank you.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so that one of the three sisters has
Speaker 1: five cubs, a litter of cubs, and this male comes
Speaker 1: in from out of the crater, so he's an outsider,
Speaker 1: comes in, wants to start his reign I guess within
Speaker 1: the crater. And so what the male line has to
Speaker 1: do or like he's threatened by the babies because if
Speaker 1: any of those babies are boys, which I'm sure a
Speaker 1: few of them more, then they would grow up to
Speaker 1: be the king of the crater.
Speaker 4: I didn't think that's so, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The king of Pride Rock the King of Pride Rock essentially,
Speaker 1: which is really and so the male line comes in
Speaker 1: and he essentially really threatens the lives of the of
Speaker 1: the cubs. And what they recorded one night was the
Speaker 1: male lion, adult lion ripping the head up of a
Speaker 1: baby lion.
Speaker 2: First, he played with him for five days. He took
Speaker 2: the cub, played with him for five days, pretended to
Speaker 2: be his dad. Male lions suck. I've learned they're evil.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they but they don't get the evil rip because.
Speaker 5: There's gonna be some good male lions you know that
Speaker 5: stick around, raise the kids killed the beforehand, get.
Speaker 3: Trampled by wildebeasts.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So anyways, that was our honeymoon.
Speaker 4: Super romantic, super.
Speaker 5: Romantic, very cool, very cool.
Speaker 1: It was definitely the trip of a lifetime. Could have
Speaker 1: asked for a better honeymoon. We got a little home sick,
Speaker 1: We missed alistair dearly, but we it was nice to
Speaker 1: go to La and spend time with you guys, and
Speaker 1: then we went straight there, So it was it was
Speaker 1: a fun filled week and a half for us.
Speaker 4: Definitely.
Speaker 5: Are you Are you sad that, like it's your honeymoon's over,
Speaker 5: wedding's over, honeymoon's over all this time spent thinking about it.
Speaker 5: It's only just in your relationship, but your lives, like, oh, wedding, honeymoon, wedding, honeymoon.
Speaker 2: Really I feel like invigorated after that trip because we
Speaker 2: were with such talented people. It makes me want to
Speaker 2: be a better photographer and videographer and just keep learning
Speaker 2: from these people, like hopefully we get invited on another
Speaker 2: trip because learning from them was the most incredible thing.
Speaker 1: It's great to hear you say that, because those are
Speaker 1: the trips that I've always liked so much. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I don't think you've had as many opportunities to go
Speaker 1: on those types of trips.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was best trip of my life.
Speaker 1: Not that I've done many many of those trips, but
Speaker 1: you know, like the type of thing where you're going
Speaker 1: on an adventure versus going on a relaxing vacation.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, just like I keep saying about getting to
Speaker 2: talk to Chloe and Sophie was so cool and getting
Speaker 2: to be with them on the Safaris and just like
Speaker 2: hear their knowledge and wisdom, and they're so they're doing
Speaker 2: the show Queens and it's all about women empowerment and
Speaker 2: they are just like so willing to lift up women
Speaker 2: and share their knowledge and just help in any way
Speaker 2: they can.
Speaker 1: They're queens.
Speaker 4: They're so cool.
Speaker 5: They're so so if you guys your next like big vacation,
Speaker 5: would you rather do the resorts no Ah? Or would
Speaker 5: you rather go back to the safar Safari.
Speaker 1: Well, not necessarily back to the Safari, but in the
Speaker 1: same vein as that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really do like the adventure trips, just like
Speaker 2: staying at a hotel isn't really.
Speaker 1: Every adventure trip we've done together Nepali. You come back
Speaker 1: from those trips and you are like, I can't get
Speaker 1: you to shut up right now because of how excited
Speaker 1: you are about the.
Speaker 2: Trip, that which is awesome, Yeah, versus going and staying
Speaker 2: at a resort and feeling like crap and feeling bloated
Speaker 2: from alcohol and food.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did feel a little bloated from alcohol. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's tough.
Speaker 3: It's tough going to an all inclusive trip.
Speaker 1: I didn't drink for the first like three days, and
Speaker 1: then I was like, well, it's free, so I guess
Speaker 1: I might as well have a beer, And then one
Speaker 1: beer turns into four beers, and then I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well I guess I'll have a glass of wine at dinner.
Speaker 5: And then he's thrown up. Well that's awesome. I'm glad
Speaker 5: you guys had fun. Yeah, I mean, I would love
Speaker 5: to do Safari. What hinders me from doing it is
Speaker 5: I'm more adventurous than Ashley, so I would like to
Speaker 5: do things like that. But I'm also very open to
Speaker 5: getting bloated at a resort because that is just it
Speaker 5: is nice.
Speaker 3: And it's a shame. That's a great experience in and
Speaker 3: of itself.
Speaker 5: Shame away.
Speaker 1: There's there's a place, there's a place in time for
Speaker 1: those like there. I think a good mixture of the
Speaker 1: two is a really healthy way to go about traveling.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I think shame is something that we should all feel sometimes.
Speaker 5: I think it's an emotion that like is kind of necessary. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, I always am like is it worth? Is
Speaker 5: it worth? Like the seventeen hour travel day, four different
Speaker 5: planes going on these small planes, which for an hour,
Speaker 5: I'm going to have a heart attack because I'm going
Speaker 5: to be just up in the air trying not to
Speaker 5: think of that I'm going to die.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So that's where my.
Speaker 1: Similar out to that g because they fell this business
Speaker 1: and if it wasn't business, it would have been a
Speaker 1: brutal experience.
Speaker 2: The layd down beds, we slept like babies, we had.
Speaker 2: Our flight from Doha to Lax was sixteen and a
Speaker 2: half hours.
Speaker 1: It's so long. You go into that flight thinking like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll just watch a couple of movies, maybe play on
Speaker 1: my phone for a little bit. But by the time
Speaker 1: you're done doing all that stuff, you look at the
Speaker 1: time and you solve ten hours to go and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 3: And there's no Wi Fi on the flight.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: But I slept.
Speaker 2: I slept for about eight hours, woke up, ate some food,
Speaker 2: fell back asleep for a few hours.
Speaker 4: It wasn't bad. No, the beds our. Life changing.
Speaker 3: I watched the movie Smile. Have you ever seen that movie, Jared?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw it in theaters.
Speaker 1: I watched it on the plane. It might be the
Speaker 1: best horror movie I've ever seen in my life. Hell,
Speaker 1: you're going to react that way.
Speaker 5: It's so because people really liked this movie, and I
Speaker 5: liked it. I liked it. I'm not but people love
Speaker 5: this movie. Smy. They're making a sequel right now because
Speaker 5: it did so well at boxing.
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 1: I hate horror movies. There was only there. It was
Speaker 1: a perfect number of jump scares. There was like, it
Speaker 1: wasn't they weren't using jump scares to scare you. Yeah
Speaker 1: they did scare you, but there's only a few of them.
Speaker 1: But this the whole movie as a whole was like
Speaker 1: creepy and eerie, and I was like, literally, I had
Speaker 1: no idea what was gonna happen next. It was the
Speaker 1: best horror move I've ever seen in my entire life.
Speaker 5: The ending, I won't spoil it, but the ending, there
Speaker 5: is some there's like certain visuals and I'm sure teens
Speaker 5: will know what I'm talking. Yeah, that are very jarring,
Speaker 5: super creepy. It starts so creepy.
Speaker 1: It starts out being really scary, and then by the
Speaker 1: visual last like five minutes. By the end of the
Speaker 1: visual I was kind of like laughing a little bit
Speaker 1: at the way that it looked.
Speaker 3: But it was so good.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen Smile and you don't like horror movies,
Speaker 1: I don't like horror movies. I thought it was really good.
Speaker 1: It is a little tricky to watch a horror movie
Speaker 1: on a flight because because then you hit like a
Speaker 1: little bit of turbulence and you're already like on the
Speaker 1: edge of your seat, and so you got like even
Speaker 1: more freaked out.
Speaker 2: Wait, this reminded me. I wanted to talk about this
Speaker 2: before we end this episode. Do you guys know about
Speaker 2: the Bachelor in Paradise endings?
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone broke upone broke up.
Speaker 2: What do you guys think this is the first time
Speaker 2: there's no successful couples.
Speaker 3: There's not a single one nothing.
Speaker 5: Well, this is there was no successful couple last year either, right.
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't.
Speaker 5: There was one couple that got engaged but they broke up.
Speaker 5: It was, oh my god, what was.
Speaker 2: That like Brendan and Piper season? Yes, I thought that
Speaker 2: was Marian Kenney. That must have been two years ago.
Speaker 5: I also thought that was two years ago. Last year
Speaker 5: was like Michael A and Danielle. They broke up and
Speaker 5: then it.
Speaker 2: Was well, at least they like had lasting relationships for
Speaker 2: a bit. This is like, yeah, this was the gated
Speaker 2: for what three months and broke up.
Speaker 1: Then they all announced it within like a couple of
Speaker 1: days of the finale. Yeah, it really makes you wonder,
Speaker 1: like they definitely probably definitely probably. I hate when people
Speaker 1: say that they definitely probably broke up before the finale,
Speaker 1: but they just like waited till the finale to announce it, you.
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Well yeah yeah, and they couldn't be like, okay, so
Speaker 2: we got engaged.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people don't even know that makes sense.
Speaker 4: It's just such a bummer. I mean, something needs to change.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's like older castmates or or what,
Speaker 2: but we need successful couples.
Speaker 3: Did you watch Paradise this here, Jared?
Speaker 1: I watched most of it, so same, and it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's not normally what I would sit downe and watch,
Speaker 1: but sometimes I can at least like get a little
Speaker 1: interested throughout the season. Like last year, I was a
Speaker 1: little more interested occasionally throughout the season. This year, I
Speaker 1: watched like two episodes and I just I couldn't find
Speaker 1: any interest. So maybe it is the cast, but they
Speaker 1: all seem like nice people for the most part. Like
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to rag on
Speaker 1: the cast because I don't really know anything about them,
Speaker 1: but something is something was off about this season for
Speaker 1: some reason.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think. Uh. First of all, let me
Speaker 5: say this, obviously, all three of us love the show,
Speaker 5: immensely support the show. Without the show, I would certainly
Speaker 5: not be where I'm at it life, So let me
Speaker 5: just say that. But the idea that we're not allowed
Speaker 5: to criticize the show has always been also ridiculous because
Speaker 5: I would never take anybody's opinion seriously if they only
Speaker 5: praised the show and gave no criticism to either. And
Speaker 5: I do think, unfortunately, this season of Paradise was a
Speaker 5: little bit of a dud. I mean it just like
Speaker 5: nothing really cool happened, Like nothing crazy happened, and no
Speaker 5: couples lasted from it. There was no investment level in
Speaker 5: any of the couples. Yeah, it just felt I don't
Speaker 5: know if it had to do with Golden Bachelor and
Speaker 5: how that took a lot of the attention off of Paradise,
Speaker 5: but it just felt like there was really nobody talking
Speaker 5: about it and it kind of just happened, and then
Speaker 5: couples came out of it, and then a day later
Speaker 5: they all broke up and it was like all right,
Speaker 5: well that that, unfortunately, was just kind of crappy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it used to be my favorite show from the franchise,
Speaker 2: but it's just it just wasn't entertaining, Like it didn't
Speaker 2: I wasn't excited to watch it every week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why is that? Do you think?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm trying to put my finger on it,
Speaker 2: like what was it? And I don't know, don't have
Speaker 2: an answer.
Speaker 5: I think Yeah, I mean I think the cast does
Speaker 5: have something to do with it there it. You know,
Speaker 5: we always talk about how social media has changed everything
Speaker 5: with reality TV and of course with Bachelor as well,
Speaker 5: And I don't know what the correct solution is because
Speaker 5: there's still couples that come out of it during the
Speaker 5: social media age. I mean, Kenny and Mary just got
Speaker 5: married and they were on the show three years ago,
Speaker 5: and I would say social media was more prevalent with
Speaker 5: the show back then than it is now. Right, So I.
Speaker 2: Just people just need to let loose, like and not
Speaker 2: think easier said than done, but not think so much
Speaker 2: about what people are going to say about you online.
Speaker 2: You know, people are so concerned about that. Also, it
Speaker 2: just felt like people were so concerned with staying and
Speaker 2: getting as much TV time as possible, but not in
Speaker 2: an entertain what I think for me, everyone wants to
Speaker 2: like fly under the radar.
Speaker 1: For me. Why I was less interested this year, I
Speaker 1: think is because every year that we get further away
Speaker 1: from us being on the show, or like our friends
Speaker 1: being on the show, I get less interested because like
Speaker 1: last year, I was interested because I know Danielle Maltby
Speaker 1: and so I want to see her story unfold. This year,
Speaker 1: I don't think I knew a single person. I love Blake, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually do. I do like Blake a lot. I've
Speaker 1: never met him in a person, but we message on Instagram occasionally.
Speaker 1: He seems really sweet. I know Rachel, I've met her
Speaker 1: a few times, but like, they're not my friends for
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, you know, like Danielle, I
Speaker 1: would say, is more of a friend than any of
Speaker 1: those people. So I just find I'm less invested in
Speaker 1: their personal stories, and so if it's harder for me
Speaker 1: to connect with them watching the show, I guess.
Speaker 5: I agree with Kaylin. I also think that there's too
Speaker 5: many contestants, and I understand, but also it's it's hard
Speaker 5: because I want the franchise to thrive as much as possible,
Speaker 5: that contestants are are far too concerned about what will
Speaker 5: be said about them or how they'll edit, you know,
Speaker 5: will be shown on the show. Because obviously I talk
Speaker 5: to her every day, so I always think of Ashley
Speaker 5: in these circumstances. But Ashley was just so unhinged but
Speaker 5: completely herself like she That's I think why people were
Speaker 5: attracted to her so much, you know, in terms of
Speaker 5: just rooting for her or rooting against her. Was the
Speaker 5: fact that she's just always on a pod apologetically herself.
Speaker 5: And Dean, I think you're also like that as well.
Speaker 5: Where Dean, yes, you messed up on your season Paradise
Speaker 5: before you met Cayln on many years ago, but like
Speaker 5: you were so polarizing and so popular because of it,
Speaker 5: because you were just so authentically yourself for better and
Speaker 5: for worse. But I think people are just drawn to
Speaker 5: that because people watching the show understand that they're not
Speaker 5: perfect either, So I think they relate to people who
Speaker 5: do make mistakes and are funny and are you know,
Speaker 5: themselves and you know, also try to be the best
Speaker 5: version of theseelves, but just also you know, become vulnerable.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think of other Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Was thinking about last season Lace was on and Lace
Speaker 2: I don't know whose season she was on originally, but
Speaker 2: like years and years.
Speaker 5: Ago Ben's Ben season, which is bananas.
Speaker 2: So like she was on and she was probably like
Speaker 2: the most herself out of anyone last season and was
Speaker 2: entertaining and wasn't It didn't seem like she was concerned
Speaker 2: at all about what people were going to say about her.
Speaker 1: I think that kind of comes with experience though, Like
Speaker 1: she's been around since Ben's season, which is what like
Speaker 1: seven or eight years ago, and so you just kind
Speaker 1: of get to a point where you're either burnt out
Speaker 1: from caring or to Ashley's credit and to Jared, what
Speaker 1: you were just saying too, Like I do think Ashley
Speaker 1: cares about what people think about her, but she's not
Speaker 1: going to let it affect the way that she acts.
Speaker 3: And I think that's kind of course.
Speaker 1: That's the perfect balance, is like be aware of how
Speaker 1: people are going to react to the things that you
Speaker 1: were doing, but like, don't necessarily let it up a
Speaker 1: change what you're going to do. You know.
Speaker 2: Well, I was almost going to say, like lack of
Speaker 2: experience because when Lace was on, she probably didn't have
Speaker 2: that same amount of scrutiny. Like social media wasn't as
Speaker 2: big as it is now, so people went on to
Speaker 2: The Bachelor like season prior.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I have to disagree with you.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Ben's season of Bachelor was maybe the beginning of the
Speaker 1: social media are era for Bachelor contestants. Like, I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone's coming off the show now with the same
Speaker 1: amount of interest that Ben's seasons cast had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like it just like snowballed and
Speaker 2: people got more and more invested in more and more mean.
Speaker 4: Like I don't know if they were necessarily as mean.
Speaker 4: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: But also I think the problem with these newer people,
Speaker 2: and I've talked to them, is they're like obsessed with
Speaker 2: Reddit and obsessed with reading negative things about themselves, where
Speaker 2: it's like, of course you're going to go on and
Speaker 2: be super guarded when all your reading is negative things,
Speaker 2: and that just like wasn't a thing when when I
Speaker 2: was on my season, we didn't read into those things.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: They're like very very image conscious and they need to
Speaker 2: stop so it's a better show, which is.
Speaker 3: Funny because it's kind of a catch twenty two.
Speaker 1: The more image conscious you are, the worse your image
Speaker 1: comes across, and so you're just like kind of shooting
Speaker 1: yourself on the foot with that.
Speaker 2: So new castmates who are about to go on your season,
Speaker 2: don't read anything about yourself.
Speaker 4: That's my advice.
Speaker 5: And if you do, I know it's impossible, and everybody
Speaker 5: can relate to this. It's hard not to read something
Speaker 5: about yourself, especially negative, and not have it kind of
Speaker 5: seep into your brain. You know, thinking is that what like,
Speaker 5: is this what other people are thinking to a lot
Speaker 5: of people not like me. I mean, it's just it
Speaker 5: casts out in your head, of course it does. But
Speaker 5: you know it is also what we sign up for.
Speaker 5: And you know the show is not all great. You know,
Speaker 5: there's part I would say for our personal experiences, ninety
Speaker 5: seven percent of it is fantastic. But of course there
Speaker 5: are times where you have to deal with people saying
Speaker 5: crap about you and saying like terrible things about you
Speaker 5: and your character or your looks.
Speaker 1: You can talk rap about my character all day long,
Speaker 1: but just when you start talking about people's looks.
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody had said anything negative about Dean's looks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my looks. No, there have been times where people.
Speaker 4: What can anyone say about you?
Speaker 5: There's in rare instances.
Speaker 1: I remember on my one on one day with Rachel
Speaker 1: way back when it was like I was opening up
Speaker 1: about my mom and how her passing affected me, and
Speaker 1: I remember reading an article I think it was like
Speaker 1: reality Steve, And this is why I just don't like
Speaker 1: Reality Steve, because he was like talking about how I
Speaker 1: grew my facial hair out a little too much and
Speaker 1: how I'm not a man because I can't grow facial hair. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: I'm on screen crying about my mom's passing affecting me,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you can disparage my character all you want,
Speaker 1: because I'm making those choices of how I act, but
Speaker 1: you can't choose how you look in any sense of
Speaker 1: the man, Like, sure I could have shaved that day
Speaker 1: and maybe he wouldn't have said that crap about me,
Speaker 1: But like, you can't change the way you look, and
Speaker 1: so you can't make fun of people for the way
Speaker 1: they look. You can make fun of people for the
Speaker 1: way they act, because you can change the way you act,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: But full circle moment here to go back earlier to
Speaker 5: the podcast. I think this works with your analogy of
Speaker 5: road rage because when people look at us on TV screens,
Speaker 5: we're not humans. We're characters, you know, we're just they
Speaker 5: think of us as these of course were real, but
Speaker 5: they think of us and our stories as fictional, and
Speaker 5: obviously they're not. So I think they yees say things
Speaker 5: that they just you know, they don't think twice about
Speaker 5: it because it's like, oh, it's just you know, it's TV.
Speaker 5: It's kind of all fake, and you're like, well, it's
Speaker 5: not really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could never imagine like talking crap about someone
Speaker 1: on the Internet with my name attached to it. Anonymity, sure,
Speaker 1: but like obviously, if I'm on Twitter with my name
Speaker 1: attached to my handle and I'm talking crap about people
Speaker 1: I see on TV, I just can't imagine ever doing that.
Speaker 4: You would talk crap about someone anonymously more.
Speaker 5: More, he'll he'll talk crap on the pseudonym like boobs McGee.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I'm I'm more keen to do that than
Speaker 1: I would be. Like, I don't know, people are just
Speaker 1: so really like unabashful with the way that they talk
Speaker 1: about other people.
Speaker 2: Sometimes, Yeah, just goes back to unhappiness. You know, it's
Speaker 2: a cliche, but they're just unhappy.
Speaker 3: But that's not to say that they maybe don't deserve
Speaker 3: some of it.
Speaker 1: Like I think maybe one of the issues with Bachelor
Speaker 1: in Paradise this season was they focused a lot more
Speaker 1: on like the Caddy negative behavior more so than they
Speaker 1: did the positive like love story behavior that we want
Speaker 1: to see on that show, Like you want to see
Speaker 1: people who in love. You want to see the stories
Speaker 1: of people like becoming enamored with each other, and you don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, sure, put some cattiness into the show,
Speaker 1: and like we wanted to watch for some drama as well,
Speaker 1: but don't focus entirely on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there weren't really strong relationship. I guess there was
Speaker 2: Eliza or Kylie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kylie.
Speaker 1: I saw I saw a video on TikTok that he
Speaker 1: was accused of cheating.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, and he kind of owned up.
Speaker 5: He admitted to it. Yeah, because he said in like
Speaker 5: an apology. He seemed to like he apologized for his actions.
Speaker 3: He's very handsome, and so I was very sad to
Speaker 3: see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucks. I mean that's part of it too,
Speaker 2: is these guys are so young.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, uh yeah, I don't know
Speaker 5: what the correct answer is. But yeah, of course, like
Speaker 5: you guys said, we want real we want love stories.
Speaker 5: Because here's the thing. Of course we want drama as well.
Speaker 5: But I do think that what the audience wants is
Speaker 5: authentic drama, you know, drama that comes from the people
Speaker 5: on that island and not like they don't want manufactured drama.
Speaker 5: And sometimes you can see that, you know that there's
Speaker 5: definitely like parts where maybe there's lulls and it's like,
Speaker 5: you know, I remember what was it. It was like
Speaker 5: the truth Box or something like that, and it was like, well,
Speaker 5: obviously we all know what this is doing, like just
Speaker 5: trying to stir the pod a little bit.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: It wasn't like there was this you know, there's drama
Speaker 5: about like Kaylin having to choose between Dean and whoever
Speaker 5: the other guy was. I can't even remember when Dean
Speaker 5: came back, like that is like, oh shit, you know,
Speaker 5: like that is a moment, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or like actually having to pick between Wells and Jarried.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a moment so funny.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't remember much from watching the show before
Speaker 1: I went on it, but I do remember Ashley's date
Speaker 1: with Wells. For some weird reason, he had no idea
Speaker 1: they went on a Z Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, talk about it, talk about it.
Speaker 1: We can talk about Kaylen and Connor, but we can't
Speaker 1: talk about Ashley in a Wow. I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: giving you a taste of John medicine over here, Jared. Anyways,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it, obvious, that's gonna do it.
Speaker 3: For this week's episode.
Speaker 5: It was your moment, that was your prince moment. You know,
Speaker 5: you walk down the stairs looking fabulous to shave the mustache,
Speaker 5: but you were there to get you were Tom Cruise
Speaker 5: and Jerem m MacGuire. And you walk down those stairs
Speaker 5: and you looked at everybody in paradise and you said,
Speaker 5: excuse me, I'm looking for my wife.
Speaker 1: We can talk about it now because that was also
Speaker 1: your moment. You know, I can talk about Ashley's date
Speaker 1: with Wells because you're married to Ashley now, just like
Speaker 1: we can talk about Kaylen state with Connor because I'm
Speaker 1: married to Ken. But all of our happy yeah but
Speaker 1: still happy endings, so at least we can have that
Speaker 1: to hold on too. That's gonna do it for this
Speaker 1: week's episode of Help We Suck At Being newlyweds. Jared,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, Kaylan, thanks for joining us. Dean,
Speaker 1: You're welcome for joining us. Oh yeah, the best. One
Speaker 1: of the funniest things in Tanzania was there's the locals
Speaker 1: in Tanzania are so polite that they always have to
Speaker 1: get the last word in, and so there's like this
Speaker 1: local like the dialect they basically say like hey, an
Speaker 1: other prison says hey, how are you? The person says, hey,
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good, how are you? And it
Speaker 1: just goes and goes and goes and goes and goes
Speaker 1: in sweely, in sweet, right in their local language. And
Speaker 1: when they're speaking English, which they're all very good at English,
Speaker 1: they they'll can you explain it? They'll like, do anything
Speaker 1: they do, they'll always say you're welcome, or like, if you.
Speaker 4: Are doing do you even say thank you?
Speaker 1: If you're doing something for them and they should be
Speaker 1: saying thank you. Instead of saying thank you, they say
Speaker 1: you're welcome because they're like just they're trying to be
Speaker 1: as polite as possible, and everything that they did that
Speaker 1: always ended with you're welcome, no matter what the situation was.
Speaker 1: And it was just really funny to think.
Speaker 2: Diana and I say you're welcome after everything that doesn't
Speaker 2: want to thank you anyways.
Speaker 1: Be sure to tune in next week, where maybe we
Speaker 1: suck just a little bit less.
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