1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here, Welcome back to Killers amongst Us, 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: a production of iHeart Media and Crime Online. Blooming Prairie, Minnesota, 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: with a population of around two thousand. If you look 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: at a picture of Blooming Prairie, Minnesota, it looks like 5 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: main Street of Mayberry. I don't know if you know 6 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: about Andy of Mayberry, Andy Griffith, but I sure do, 7 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: and I know all about Mayberry, not too far from Raleigh. 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: In my mind, looks just like the real live, blooming prairie. 9 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: Blooming Prairie, Minnesota. So how does a man end up 10 00:00:52,600 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: shot dead in his own property, his wife missing. I'm 11 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, Killers amongst Us, joining me an all star 12 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: panel to break it down and put it back together again. 13 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: First of all, Tess Coster, longtime friend of David and 14 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: Louis Reese. Ashley Wilcott, judge, trial lawyer, anchor COURTDV, doctor 15 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, Psychoalens to the Stars, joining me from Beverly Hills. 16 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: Cloyd Steiger thirty six years Seattle, PD and author, Joseph 17 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University and author Callen 18 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: Thompson KIMT News three, Rochester, Minnesota. Let's start at the 19 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: very beginning with Blooming Prairie. The city of Blooming Prairie 20 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: is known for its historic downtown. There are tunnels underneath 21 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Main Street that we're dug during the Prohibition era. The 22 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: tunnels were used for making and peddling moonshine. This quiet town, 23 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: with its old bones and its midwest field, went almost 24 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: thirty years without having a murder. You are hearing our 25 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: friend Aaron Bluie Devil we know podcast. You know. To me, 26 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: when I look at Blooming Prairie, it looks like Andy, Oh, 27 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: maybe you're like, nothing would ever go wrong there? To 28 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: Callen Thompson, I guess you got a pretty low crime, right, 29 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: huh right, You're completely right. It's like out of a movie. 30 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: It's small town Minnesota, close knit community. You wouldn't think 31 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: anything like that would happen here, you know. I'm looking 32 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: at pictures of Blooming Prairie, Minnesota, and literally it reminds 33 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: me of where my grandparents on my dad's side lived, Oglethorpe, Georgia. 34 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: There was one main street and at the end of 35 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: the main street it's just a bunch of trees. Now 36 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: that's more than I had where I grew up in 37 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: Middle Georgia. But I'm looking at look at this, Jackie, 38 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: the water tower in Blooming Prairie with the flag on it. 39 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 1: Am I correct? There's only about two thousand people there. Yes, 40 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: you are correct. It's very small. And like you said, 41 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: the water tower is right at the end of the 42 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: main street. If you drive too fast you might miss it. Honestly, well, 43 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: I know this. It's been there since eighteen sixty eight. 44 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: It was incorporated eighteen seventy four, and it's actually on 45 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: the National Register of Historic Places. Now here's the kicker, 46 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: because before Prohibition it was let me just say, not dry. Okay, 47 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: so it was a big city because a moonshine. But 48 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: that's how long Blooming Prairie has been around population two thousand. 49 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: You know, that's very important to the murder of David 50 00:03:55,320 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: Reese and the disappearance of his wife. To Joseph Scott Morgan, 51 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: Professor Forensics, Jackson State University, author of Blood Beneath My 52 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: Feet on Amazon, jo Scott, why is that critical to 53 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: figuring out who murdered David Reese? And to Lewis Hey Nancy. Look, 54 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: with most homicides. We think about people that are in 55 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: our intimate circle, and you're talking about this beautiful place, 56 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: which to me, Minnesota is one of the pretty states 57 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: in the Union. It's absolutely gorgeous. Small town. You've got 58 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: limited number of people that are surrounding you, and so 59 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: how many people would you actually have in your circle? 60 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: Would I would venture to guess that there are not 61 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: that many homicides that take place in this pretty lavele. 62 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: Looking at at Cloyd Steiger, now you did thirty six 63 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: years Seattle PD, twenty two of that as homicide detective 64 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: author Seattle's Forgotten Cereal Killer, Gary Jane Grant at Cloyd 65 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: Steiger dot com. Cloyd, now you're used to sleuthing and 66 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: solving murderers in Seattle. That's a far cry from Blooming Prairie. 67 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: Blooming Prairie as the kind of town where the neighbors 68 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: know when somebody doesn't show up for work, they notice 69 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: when you don't bring your newspaper in from the frame 70 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: your driveway, Okay, they see it. That's a lot different 71 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: from where you police. Yeah, this is answer is I 72 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: look at them because of the town. To myself right now, 73 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: I bet you they have had less than five murders 74 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: in their entire history. If fat many, I mean, so 75 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: this is a really unusual thing, and the way you 76 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: go about investing this crime is going to be completely 77 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: different because of that. So straight out to test coster tests. 78 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: How is it that you manage to meet up with 79 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: Dave and Lois Reese. Lois and Dave came to Blooming 80 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: Prairie two thousand and four, two thousand and five, something 81 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: like that, and we met them as the new people 82 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: in town. It's a small town. There's not a stoplight, 83 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: there's not a movie theater. It's just a close knit group. 84 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: So Dave liked to fish, My husband liked to fish. 85 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: They got to know each other that way. We'd go 86 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: have a beer at the Services Club or at J 87 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: and H liquor run into him here and there. Then 88 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: Dave start opened his waxworm farm, which is right on 89 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: their property. And okay, right there, what is that? What's 90 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: a waxworm? It is a little white worm that people 91 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 1: fish with, usually panfish, so like some dish boogills perch. 92 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, Lois opened daycare. All the daycare moms and 93 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: dad thought she was great. She was always a happy, 94 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 1: fun loving very sweet, nice person, happy go lucky person. 95 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Went bowling with the bowling She was on the bowling team. 96 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: The bowlers all loved her. In about two and ten, 97 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: we invited them as a couple day than Lewis to 98 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: come to our lake home along with some of our 99 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: employees and their spouses, and she was just a wonderful guest. 100 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: She brought stake for everyone, cleaned up afterwards, served us 101 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: all breakfast. The guys all went out fishing, We went pontooning, 102 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: had a great time. Dave had this infection infectious laugh. 103 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: So he was always fun to be around because he 104 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: was telling jokes and making everybody feel good and happy. 105 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: So Dave and Lois show up for weekend at your 106 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: lake house and they're wonderful day, fun to be around. 107 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: Lois brings steaks for dinner for everybody, gets up and 108 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: fix his breakfast. Now that's kind of people you want 109 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: to invite over. So this is what we know about 110 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 1: Dave Reese. Take a listen to our friend Aaron Bluie 111 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Devil We Know podcast. Dave decided to follow us dreams 112 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: and open a bait shop in Rochester with a friend 113 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: of his. Beat shop was very successful, when he decided 114 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: to sell the shop an open prairie wax farm farm 115 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: which he owned with another friend. He had a true 116 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: passion for the outdoors and was always fishing, hunting, or boating. 117 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: I think people remember most about Dave, however, is how 118 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: he had a great sense of humor. Nancy, let me 119 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: jump in here and say that is one of the 120 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: things that people comment about David and Lewis Reef is 121 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: how well they were liked in the community. With me 122 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: here in the studio, Jackie, Howard, Jackie, what do you know? 123 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: I know that Test Coster and her family stepped in 124 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: and helped David and Lewis Reef a little bit more 125 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: than what she said before. Let's listen to Amy Bennett 126 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: Williams with the News Press. A year after they moved there, 127 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: a fire tore through their home. Soon, donation cans appeared 128 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: throughout downtown, and Rod and Test Coster, who owned a 129 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: bluing prairie used car lot, put the couple up on 130 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: the second floor of one of their downtown buildings while 131 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: the races rebuilt. Dave served on board of the local 132 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: Serviceman's club, where the couple often grabbed meals. Lois went 133 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: bowling with the gals of Bunkies a vintage four lane alley. 134 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: She fit right in with all the bowling gals, and 135 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean was friendly to everybody in town. Lois set 136 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: up a childcare business, babysitting town children. Lois Reese was 137 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: a daycare provider for a good friend of mine, her 138 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: son when he was a little She was around the 139 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: community more than he was. My friend used to talk 140 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: about taking his little boy off to her place, and 141 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: he thought she was a nice lady. I mean, and 142 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: so did I think. Most of the people in town. 143 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: Smiley and warm seeming, appeared to love her young charges. 144 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: Caring for others was part of her identity. Lois and 145 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: Dave may have been from somewhere else, but they fit 146 00:09:53,280 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: comfortably into the life of Blooming Prairie, which embraced them. 147 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: Dave served on the board of the local Serviceman's club, 148 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: where the couple often grabbed meals. Lois went bowling with 149 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: the gals of Bunkies a vintage four lane alley. She 150 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: fit right in with all the bowling gals, and I 151 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: mean was friendly to everybody in town. Lois set up 152 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: a childcare business, babysitting town children. Lois Reese was a 153 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: daycare provider for a good friend of mine, her son 154 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: when he was a little She was around the community 155 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: more than he was. My friend used to talk about 156 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: taking his little boy off to her place, and he 157 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: thought she was a nice lady. I mean, and so 158 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: did I think most of the people in town, smiley 159 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: and warm seeming, appeared to love her young charges. Caring 160 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: for others was part of her identity. Lois and Dave 161 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: may have been from somewhere else, but they fit comfortably 162 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: into the life of Blooming Prairie, which embraced them. So 163 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: getting a picture of what life is like for this couple. 164 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: Joining me friend of the Reese family, test Coster ask Wilcot, 165 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: let me go to you judge trial while your anchor 166 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: Court TV at Ashley Wilcott dot com. It's really hard 167 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: for me to reconcile this happy picture. And there's a 168 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: beautiful little town of two thousand, Blooming Prairie in Minnesota. 169 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: And know for a fact that he David Reese, is 170 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: shot dead and Lois goes missing. Well automatically, with those facts, 171 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: it's suspicious. And you know what it makes me think 172 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: is who has come in to this beautiful, little quaint 173 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: town and done such a crime, and I would go 174 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: directly in my mind towards kidnapped, taken, absponded with his wife. 175 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: None of this makes sense, and it paints a very 176 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: unwelcoming picture of someone coming into this beautiful place and 177 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: committing not one but two. Cry daughter, Bethany Marshall. It's 178 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: like murder in Mayberry. You just don't see it coming. 179 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: It's like I always compare it to Scott Peterson in 180 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: a different way because there were many people that thought 181 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: Scott Peterson was handsome. I mean, he was a golf pro, 182 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: he was a star in high school. I think he 183 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: may have had a golf scholarship, roomed with Phil Mickelson 184 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: at college. Beautiful wife, beautiful home. I was at their 185 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: home many many times. And then suddenly his wife turns 186 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: up dead. Okay, people would look at Scott Peterson and 187 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: think impossible. Why many people think he's handsome? He's smart 188 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: at college degree, great job, great personality. He would never 189 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: do this. That's what it feels like. When you look 190 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: at Blooming Prairie, You're like, I know who would kill 191 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: him and take away lois hard for us to take 192 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: in Well, Nancy, You're right, the facts just don't add 193 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: up the beautiful town. If it were a larger city, 194 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: you might think about a crime of opportunity. But this 195 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: is this bucolic setting with very few people. Everybody knows 196 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: each other. If just one spouse was killed or had 197 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: gone missing, you would look at the other spouse, right, 198 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: you would begin to think about, you know, was there 199 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: attention or in the marriage, had somebody taken out of 200 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: life insurance policy, something like that. But here one spouse 201 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: is shot, the other goes missing. If the husband was 202 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: shot and the wife was left alone, I would have thought, 203 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, he started this new business, the waxworm farm. 204 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: I would wonder, you know, was there a lot of 205 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: cash in the business. Had a employee come and tried 206 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: to and disfuntled employee who was angry at Dave? Or 207 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: there are a a lot of cash and an employe he 208 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: wanted access to it. But then just Dave would have 209 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: been shot. Here you have one partner shot and the 210 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: other one goes missing. There's no pattern I can think 211 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: of that matches up with this crime. You know, Blooming Prairie, 212 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: the crime right is eleven times lower than the national average. 213 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: Eleven times lower take a listen to our friend Aaron Bluie. 214 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: After a couple of weeks, Dave's co workers finally decided 215 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: to call the police to report him missing. He hadn't 216 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: been seen or heard from. One of Dave's friends told 217 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: the police that they received an odd text message from Dave. 218 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: The content of the message wasn't what seemed off. What 219 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: was striking to the friend was the fact that the 220 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: message used punctuation. Dave never used punctuation, not even a period, 221 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: whenever he wrote a text message or an email. On 222 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: March twenty third, twenty eighteen, after receiving the missing person's report, 223 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: the police discovered Dave's body in the bathroom of his home. 224 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: The investigator and corner weren't able to pinpoint the exact 225 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: time or date that Dave died. His cell phone was 226 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: found on the kitchen counter. Police believe that Dave probably 227 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: had been dead when his friend received the text message 228 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: WHOA straight out? To Kalen Thomson KIMT News three, Rochester, Minnesota. 229 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: Kalen so, a couple of weeks pass, He's not showing 230 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: up to the worm farm, and for a while, nobody 231 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: was worried because they had gotten a text message from him. 232 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm the same way when I text, no punctuation, no capitals, nothing, 233 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: you know. I try to do a couple of spaces 234 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: between sentences. I speak in broken English because it's just 235 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, like shorthand. I get it. If I wrote 236 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: a full on sentach with capitols and punctuations, Jackie here 237 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: in the studio would know somebody had my phone because 238 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: I would not be doing that. So tell me about 239 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: the discovery off his body. What do we know? What 240 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: the cause of death is? Kiellen? Sorry, Well, this brings 241 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: us to Saturday, March twenty fourth. As the weekend anchor, 242 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: we have the scanners going in the newsroom and some 243 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: of my jobs to kind of keep an ear on 244 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: that as I'm producing the show, just to make sure 245 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: we don't miss anything as far as news goes. And 246 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: we were hearing about a death investigation in Dodge County 247 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,239 Speaker 1: and the Prairie wax worm farm address was being relayed 248 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: from law enforcement, so I was thinking, Okay, we better 249 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: send someone out there. So this is Saturday night, it's dark, 250 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: it's so cold in Minnesota. I think there's possibly still 251 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: snow on the ground as well, so we send a 252 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: reporter out there to Prairie wax Worm Farms on Highway 253 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: twenty eight Highway two eighteen, just outside of Blooming Prairie 254 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: in Dodge County, and of course she wasn't able to 255 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: get any information at the scene, but she did get video, 256 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: possibly not the highest of quality just because of how 257 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: dark it was, but that's all we knew at that 258 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: point was there was law enforce and on scene and 259 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: it was suspicious activity going on in that small town 260 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: of Blooming Prairie. So then Sunday rolls around. I was 261 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: able to make some calls, but of course nothing really 262 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: came out of that, still tight lipped, and then Monday 263 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: rolls around, Mark twenty sixth, and as a reporter, I 264 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: was assigned to go to Blooming Prairie that day to 265 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: see what I could go find out. So I made 266 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: the forty minute drive from Rochester, Minnesota to Blooming Prairie 267 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: and drove up to the Prairie wax worm Farms, and 268 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 1: of course there was law enforcement still on scene. I 269 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: was able to grab video, and then I made my 270 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: way down to main Street to see maybe what I 271 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: could break up there. And as I was going from 272 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: business to business. It was pretty certain early on that 273 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't really going to get much from this community. 274 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: They were pretty tight lipped and they did not say much. However, 275 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: I was able to get one business owner on camera. However, 276 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't able to identify her and I couldn't show 277 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: her face. I just had to record her hands. But 278 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: she knew of what had kind of went down as 279 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: far as what happened at the prayer wax weren't farm 280 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: of just there was suspicious activity there. And when I 281 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: did ask her if she knew of the Riese family, 282 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: she said she did. Guys, I'm looking and you could 283 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: do it too. I'm looking right now at the address 284 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: and I can see the home. I can see the 285 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: wax worm farm and the home are on the same place. Right, 286 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: Is that right, Keillen? That's correct, So he had it's 287 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: wax worm farm. I guess out behind his home and 288 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: it is beautiful. There's all green grass, beautiful trees all around. 289 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: It's like rolling country. And I bet that was a 290 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: big surprise Kellen Thompson when you suddenly here there's a 291 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: lot of police activity at seven five eight five nine 292 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: US two eighteen Blooming prairie, Like, what the hey, what 293 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: was your first thought when you heard that? Right? Well, 294 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: when I pulled up to the scene, and because I 295 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: had never been to the Prairie wax worm farm, so 296 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: when I pulled up, I was like, oh, there's a 297 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: house right next to it, and then there were law 298 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: enforcement vehicles there, and like you said, You're just like, well, 299 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: this isn't supposed to be happening. Here. Just doesn't look great. 300 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: I'm looking at a three hundred and sixty degree view, 301 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: and behind the home I can see there's plowed up earth. 302 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: There's a big field behind it, and three hundred and 303 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: sixty degrees you don't see anything but in the distance 304 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: a farm and in the distance away from the house 305 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: across the street as a railroad track. I mean, you 306 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: don't see anything. And that means a lot too straight 307 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: up to you. Joe Scott Morgan, what does that mean 308 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: to you? There's nothing else around? Yeah, who would want 309 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: to go out to a location like this and perpetrate 310 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: a crime? I mean, this is the height of isolation. Nancy. 311 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: You know you gotta see it. Joe Scott, go to 312 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: zero dot com. Will That's where I get all my 313 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: if it was seven five eight five nine US Highway 314 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: two eighteen, Blooming Prairie. And it's just like Kellen Thompson 315 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: is telling us from KIMTV, and you can do a 316 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty five, three hundred and sixty degree 317 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: and it's about a twenty five hundred square foot home, 318 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: three bedroom, two baths, single family and it's it's very 319 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: pretty and honest, beautiful property. Okay, I butt it in, 320 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: go ahead, No, I mean, I know exactly what you're 321 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: talking about. You know, when I was little, my papa 322 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: raised horses. You know, we had a farm, if you will, 323 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: and it was isolated. Nancy. You have to it's not 324 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: someplace to show up by accident. It's what I'm saying. 325 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: You have to be purposed in going there. And so 326 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: when I begin to hear about cases like this, and 327 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: I think about things like this, the first thing that 328 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: comes to mind is, well, somebody did this that knew 329 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: this general, somebody did this that had a very familiar 330 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: relationship with him and that, or somebody that had a grudge, 331 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: some sort of disagreement. Because this is not random. I 332 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: can tell you that right now, and to you, Kellen Thompson, 333 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 1: k IMT News three. What can you tell me about 334 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: the caliber? I mean, this guy wasn't shot just one. 335 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: He was killed many times, over right? Sure? Well, for investigators, 336 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: we learned that it was a twenty two caliber gun 337 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: and he had multiple gunshot wounds. Whoa and where was 338 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: he on the property call? He wasn't he in his bathroom? Yes? 339 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: The investigator said that he was found on the bathroom floor. 340 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: And look when you hear wax room from him. Granted 341 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know what the test cost. I had to 342 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: explain to me about it. Now I know what she's 343 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: talking about because whenever I take the twins fishing, we 344 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: have to go get baked. You know, worms wax rooms 345 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: can be very profitable up till like almost ten dollars 346 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: a pound. Okay, so you raise the worms, you can 347 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: make money off of them. Doctor Bethany Marshall joining me, 348 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: Psycho Wallens joining us out of Beverly Hills at doctor 349 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall dot com. What does that tell you that 350 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: there were multiple shots in the bathroom with a small 351 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: caliber a twenty two. But let's start with the multiple shots. Well, 352 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: they killed him many times. This is what we call overkill. 353 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: Nancy and so whenever there's a case of overkill, you 354 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: have to consider certain factors. The first thing I always 355 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: think of is meth amphetamine, because that can cause overkill 356 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: if the perpetrator is on some kind of drugs PCP, 357 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: crystal crystal, mess, whatever words you want to use. These 358 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: types of drugs cause an enormous amount of energy and 359 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: an enormous amount of rage. But I do not think 360 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: that Blooming Prairie is the mess capital of the world, 361 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: so I would have to rule that one out. The 362 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: second would be extreme ragefulness that whoever did this was 363 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: extremely enraged at Dave. But that doesn't make sense either, 364 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: because everybody in this town knew each other. So if 365 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: somebody had a grudge or something like that against them, 366 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: I think that somebody in this town would know. So again, 367 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: this crime is not fitting any pattern that is familiar 368 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: to me. It just seems very mysterious. Now, wait a minute, 369 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, doctor Bethany Marshall. The 370 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: very first crime on the books to you, asked you, Wilcott, 371 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: you're a judge and trial lawyer, court TV anchor aske 372 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: Wilcot dot com. The very first murder we know of 373 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: Kine and Abel and they were in the garden of Eden. Yeah, 374 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: so grudges happen even in small town absolutely. And to me, 375 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: what this means in the bathroom, close range, multiple shots 376 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: is that clearly this is somebody who had a grudge, 377 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: who knew him. And you know what, it doesn't matter 378 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: where you live, what you do, what you have, what 379 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: you don't have. Anybody can be a victim of a crime. 380 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: Well here's another thing. What about this fact to you? 381 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: Kloyd Steiger thirty six years Seattle, PD Cloyd Steiger dot com. 382 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: Multiple gunshots the guy shot in his bathroom and his 383 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: cell phone, isn't that right? Kallen Thompson kimt His cell 384 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: phone was there on the kitchen counter. Yes, I believe. 385 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: So what about that? What do you make of the 386 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: multiple gunshot wounds ployds Tiger? Well, what I'd want to 387 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: know looking at that is not just multiple, but where 388 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: on his body are they Because like shots to the 389 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: face generally making a more personal attack. So I'd want 390 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: to know as he shot multiple times in the face, 391 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: that would be someone who was angry at him, or 392 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: was it just because they had a twenty two and 393 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: to keep shooting him to kill him? And then the 394 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: phone on the We know that the person probably texted 395 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: with that phone, so you're gonna want to check that 396 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: for touch DNA and see where you can find from that. Guys, 397 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: we're talking about the multiple gunshot murderer, the life of 398 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: the party, David Reese, living happily with Lois Reese. They've 399 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: got children that have moved away. Why would any body 400 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: do that? And where is Lois Reese? Take a listen 401 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: to Kallen Thompson, our friend at Kamputs. We're at the 402 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: Prairie wall worm Farm. Saturday night. I'm told Reese lives 403 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: where Dodge County authorities are investigating, just right outside of town. 404 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: Is it next to that Prairie waxed worm farm. Yes, yep. 405 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: The house is located on the same property. And many 406 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: versions of the story of what people think happened are 407 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: going around town. But one thing is for certain. It's 408 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: a situation affecting the entire community of Blooming Prairie. I 409 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: have gone to bed Saturday night thinking about what a 410 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: wonderful community this is because we had our Blooming Prairie 411 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: Education Foundation auction. And then the next thing I know, 412 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: I hear this and it's just yeah, it just seems 413 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: unreal for our little community. Authorities are asking for your 414 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: help in locating Race. He's dead, she is missing. Where 415 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: is Lois Reese? And who gunned down David Reese in 416 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: the bathroom of his own home. Nancy Grace Killers amongst us, 417 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,