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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lalli. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt my hell. Things have changed in

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Speaker 1: the AFC North unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I mean things are sort of breaking the Steelers a

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Speaker 2: way for now until something bad happens to them, hopefully not.

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Speaker 2: You know, they've had.

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Speaker 1: Their They people I think are overlooking like it's been

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Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers have had their share of injuries

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Speaker 1: this year. Oh sure. You know they've played you know,

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Speaker 1: four or five game five games without Cam Hayward. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, four games without Deontay Johnson, the last two

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Speaker 1: games without makea Fitzpatrick. They'll play a third game on

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Speaker 1: Sunday without making Fitzpatrick like Friarmouth is. You know, So

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Speaker 1: they've been missing some key pieces throughout this season. No,

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Speaker 1: they the offensive line has had some shuffling pieces there

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Speaker 1: as well. So they've had their share of injuries. And

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Speaker 1: yet they're six and three and Cam mccam. Hayward was

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Speaker 1: asked today like, you know, what do you say to

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Speaker 1: the people who say you're with you're doing this with

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Speaker 1: smoking mirrors? He's like, screw you.

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Speaker 2: I bet you'd take that too. Well.

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Speaker 1: Put a lot of work into this this is not

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Speaker 2: Come hang out with me for twenty four hours and

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Speaker 2: tell me it smoking mirrors. Yeah, let's go with go

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Speaker 2: to the weight room for a while and in a

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Speaker 2: practice field, tell me it's smoking mirrors. Yeah, I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: Crazy game last night with massive ramifications, hugely huge. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So now looking at the playoff standings in the AFC,

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Speaker 1: when nothing really changed, okay, except Baltimore is now eight

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're sitting in real nice shape.

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Speaker 1: So the winner of Sunday's Steelers at Brown's game keeps

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Speaker 1: pace with Baltimore, you're behind them, you're even with them

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Speaker 1: in the in the lost column exactly, with the Ravens

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Speaker 1: still having their their bye week coming.

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Speaker 2: Up, and you're a game behind them still and you're

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Speaker 2: a half game based half game, yeah, half game.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals, on the other hand, they're done, and especially

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Speaker 1: without Joe Burrow there, they're done.

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Speaker 2: Done. Yeah. I mean even yesterday, if you listen to

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Speaker 2: the show, we didn't know Burrow was gonna get hurt,

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Speaker 2: but pretty much said this is close to almost playoff

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Speaker 2: situation for the Bengals. Let alone losing their starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They're in worse shape than Buffalo they have to be

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's two mathematically, not even, not even with the quarterback

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Speaker 1: in both. The Bills are two and five in the conference.

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Speaker 1: They've got five conference losses. The Bengals are one in

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Speaker 1: five in conference.

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Speaker 2: And three in the division.

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Speaker 1: All five of the all five of those two teams

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Speaker 1: losses have come within their own conference.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just killer to a mathemat that's

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Speaker 2: a huge math problem. Now they have a quarterback problem

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Speaker 2: on top of a math problem. They're in massive trouble,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and a scheduling problem going forward. That's brutal. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: both those teams have a really brutal schedule.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals, well, we know they play the Steelers next week.

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Speaker 1: Now they get ten days. Maybe Joe Burrow's wrist gets better.

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Speaker 2: It sure and look good.

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Speaker 1: Then they play the at Jacksonville and then they get

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Speaker 1: the Cults at home, Vikings at home, at the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: again at the Chiefs, then the Browns at home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's brutal. Bills is just as bad, if

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Speaker 2: not worse. So if those two were on the outs, somebody's.

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Speaker 1: In, like I don't even know at this point, Like.

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Speaker 2: The winner of brown Steelers is really in nice shape

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Speaker 2: mathematically for the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So the Bengals played Burrow early in the season with

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Speaker 1: that calf issue because they felt like, well, he's our

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Speaker 1: best option. Yes, he is limited in the pocket with

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Speaker 1: what he can do, but he can still throw the football. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he's better than this dude, Jake Brownie.

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Speaker 1: The problem that they have now is that he can't

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Speaker 2: They couldn't even hold it, couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he couldn't even hold the football in his.

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Speaker 2: Hand and it didn't show on the field. But it

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Speaker 1: That's a warming thing. Yeah. Yeah, just to keep it loose.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure it's obviously he plays through that.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's over that, or it's not totally over

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that that's what the league wants to say.

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Speaker 2: I think, I mean, this has been an issue he had,

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Speaker 1: they should have listed him A and B. The league

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Speaker 2: So. I mean, it was nothing happened on that play

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Speaker 1: Well, the play before that, they showed Clowney hit him

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Speaker 1: vicious hit. No, it was just something to jar that wrist.

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Speaker 2: Now he could could hardly even hold the football. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I assume you saw it at halftime or

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Speaker 2: was just as he's just like, no, I can't, I

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Speaker 2: can't throw a football. Yeah, who knows if he's ready

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Speaker 1: So that happened. Yeah, on the other side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: Mark Andrews has done for.

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Speaker 2: The year, done for the year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would say that's the last second, the

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Speaker 1: I mean, for a while there it looked like they

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Speaker 1: might have lost both he and Lamar. Lamar is far

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I guess in the postgame interview, he's like,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it. I'll be fine,

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Speaker 2: don't worry about it. It probably will, but he's not

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Speaker 1: I would be you know, well, now they get they

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Speaker 1: get the ten days off before they play again, and

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Speaker 1: it's a lot nicer with a win, but you know,

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Speaker 1: at some point here, you get it, they're gonna start,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of trying to manage his I would

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, I'm not super worried about the ankle,

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Speaker 1: Even when he ran last night, it was a lot

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Speaker 2: No, he didn't look good walking on and off the field. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I hope nobody hits me.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get druged down from behind again.

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Speaker 1: I don't want any of that.

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Speaker 2: Really bother him. And then Andrews being on for the

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Speaker 2: year is very substantial. Yeah, it looks like Beckham and

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Speaker 2: Bateman and those guys are rounding into shapes.

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Speaker 1: Beckham got hurt last night, did he?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yeah, oh yeah, yeah I remember he didn't. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He's always stinks, He's always and that's the awful That's

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Speaker 1: just an awful signing. He's not a fifteen million dollars.

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Speaker 2: The amount of money is insane.

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Speaker 1: I just I honestly what what went through my mind

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Speaker 1: the Bengals just kind of gave up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like no hope and all their looks

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Speaker 1: Somebody should ask Tyler Boyd deck because if you remember

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Speaker 1: he said that about the Steelers a few years ago

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Speaker 1: and the cad did did they give up? Because they

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Speaker 1: were just letting Beckham? Like Beckham catch that ball that

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Speaker 2: It was like they didn't chance at all. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: he's such the face of the franchise, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: it's disheartening for anybody, But it looked like, man, our

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Speaker 2: season shot. We know how important this game is before

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Speaker 2: effort wasn't great.

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Speaker 1: Here's what trouble the Ravens have left at the Chargers Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's a night game. Yeah, Rams at home at the Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: a night game. Then they have the Dolphins at home

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Speaker 1: than I thought at and then they host the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's no gimmes there, no, not a single one.

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Speaker 2: Rams and Chargers aren't easy, especially if Lamar's compromise, then

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Speaker 2: you don't have Andrews back.

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Speaker 1: To back trips to Jacksonville and San Francisco. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco game is on Christmas, Christmas Eve, Christmas night,

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Speaker 2: San Francisco was on the horizon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So with the Steelers now this game Sunday takes

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Speaker 1: on even more importance. We were talking about maybe being

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Speaker 2: Well, your chances just went up.

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Speaker 1: The chances went up that you have a you can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, heavily, no doubt about it. And again I have

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Speaker 2: no clue on Burrow, we will probably won't know until

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Speaker 1: They don't have to do any kind of until next Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: But the Sunday shows. Keep an eye on the Sunday

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Speaker 1: shows in the morning when all the NFL reporters, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Glazer and Chefter, Yeah, that'll be a hot topic.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll have some nuggets. But I'm counting on

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Speaker 2: Burrow not being there next week. But just by the

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Speaker 1: There were some people out there, the lip readers out there,

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Speaker 1: I'm not one of them who said when he went

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Speaker 2: Really Yeah, So I mean it's probably something like, boy,

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Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't pop. It's something that's bugging us. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So maybe it does come out tomorrow or today that hey,

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Speaker 2: he's done for the year or something bad bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So he didn't speak to reporters after the game yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor was kind of just kind of it off,

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Speaker 1: like it's again answer they're going to answer questions. They're

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Speaker 1: already having to answer questions from the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's pictures of him some kind of wrap on

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Speaker 2: his brace.

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Speaker 1: He had a brace brace.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and someone they were brushing it, and I guess

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Speaker 2: the Bengals deleted.

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Speaker 1: A video the Bengals put the It was the video

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Speaker 2: Me too. A division game wouldn't matter even if you're

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Speaker 1: But they're not physical.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very much of a team. We saw that last

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Speaker 1: They've done that before too.

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Speaker 2: I feel like they can lose like one more game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, they still have Miami that would help.

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Speaker 1: But here's here's what they're here's their problem that say,

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Speaker 1: No, you're gonna lose some of those games and all

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying about their playoff chances though. Yeah, things

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Speaker 1: But there's still a team that lost to Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the Browns lose, if they can

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, they're certainly like they're bringing in Joe

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Speaker 1: That kind of tells you where they're at right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they are, but their defense, their

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Speaker 2: They're in real good shape.

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Speaker 1: if they even if they lose to the Browns and

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Speaker 1: Burrow doesn't start, I think they can beat the Bengals

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Speaker 1: out there, and that still gives you the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: get to ten. If they sweep birth of these games,

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Speaker 1: they sweep both of these games, and then they're.

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Speaker 2: Really really good.

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Speaker 1: You know, then you know, maybe you can get to eleven,

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Speaker 1: maybe even twelve wins. The division is in play.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think the division is still in play. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but the Ravens are, of course.

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Speaker 1: No, no doubt. I mean they're the team that's that's

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Speaker 1: out ahead right now. But again, they've got they've got

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Speaker 1: some tough ones coming up.

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Speaker 2: They do, they do, you know, I mean if they

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Speaker 2: we knew last night was going to be major seismic shifts, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not as much as we.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you didn't expect the injuries. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: if they go to lose and lose to the Chargers

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Speaker 1: for example, yeah, where they go to Jacksonville and lose there,

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Speaker 1: they're going to lose to the forty nine ers in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Think so, I mean they're probably a six point dog

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Speaker 2: in that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Lamar's record against NFC teams, that's his home record.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, you know I mean Sam

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Speaker 2: Random will be fine with them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean they still got to play the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: There's some losses there. So if you can get to

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Speaker 1: eleven or twelve again, I know we're putting the card

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Speaker 1: ahead of the horse. You got to get this one first.

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Speaker 2: No, no doubt, no doubt. But the path that was

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Speaker 2: the path eased up in the last twenty four Well.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit more about that coming out

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Speaker 1: of the break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lollie.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the slate of quarterbacks the Steelers face

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Speaker 1: here over the next few weeks. Obviously you're getting.

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Speaker 2: On the top of the air.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get Dorian Thompson Robinson this week, that much

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Speaker 1: we know. Okay, next week it could be Browning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The week after that, we assume you're gonna get Kyler

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Speaker 1: because yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously people will get hurt between now and then,

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Speaker 2: but if game's played.

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Speaker 1: Now, it's Kyler, it's Kyler.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I thought you look good in his first

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Speaker 2: game back, So that's a stiffer test than it could

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Speaker 2: have been.

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Speaker 1: Then you get the Patriots, so you're looking at I

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Speaker 1: don't know, think mac Jones is going Max Jones or Bailey,

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Speaker 1: Zappi or Cunningham or yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think mac Jones is going to get sat down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, not that any of them are super daunting,

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Speaker 2: but I think he's gonna get sat down.

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Speaker 1: Then you get Gardner Minshew, yes. Uh. Then you play

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Speaker 1: the Bengals again, hopefull you know, maybe Burrows, maybe Burrow's back.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a chance of season's over. I mean

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Speaker 2: no one's like told me that or anything, but it

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Speaker 2: could be bad.

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Speaker 1: Then you get Gino Smith and then you face Lamar again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So if you look at this over the.

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Speaker 2: Lamar and Kyler three year, four or five stands today.

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Speaker 1: Over the next six games, in five of them, there's

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Speaker 1: a good possibility that you have an advantage of quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Kyler would be the only one that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is not. Kyler and Lamar are the only ones

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Speaker 2: if the game was played today, would be scary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean Geno Smith's okay, yeah, ok yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I forgot.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's solid, he's having a good year. But no,

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Speaker 2: you're right. I mean, Minshew's okay. I mean they're gonna

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Speaker 2: run the ball time. Someone's gonna get hurt between now

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Speaker 2: and then too, probably. Yeah, you know, it's just how

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Speaker 2: the league's going. So no, it's that's up great.

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Speaker 1: It sets up well. And again, you know, when you

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Speaker 1: look at it that way, you're like, Okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: now you might be like to start stacking some wins

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Speaker 1: because you know at this point what you are. Peter

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Speaker 1: King was on somebody's show today or something and was

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Speaker 1: talking about the Steelers and said that the Steelers are

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Speaker 1: the Jets West because and try to compare what Picket

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Speaker 1: is doing this year to what Zach Wilson is doing

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: And I don't see it that way.

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Speaker 1: I don't see it that way at all, because here's

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Speaker 1: the thing.

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Speaker 2: I think their offenses are structured so much different.

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Speaker 1: Too, way differently The Steelers aren't asking Kenny Pickett to

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Speaker 1: make a lot of big plays early in games. They're

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Speaker 1: trying to keep the games close and then give Pickett

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Speaker 1: a chance to win it in the fourth quarter, where

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Speaker 1: he has shown time and again. Then he's pole of

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Speaker 1: doing that.

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Speaker 2: Wilson start to finish, Yeah, can't.

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Speaker 1: He can't do it.

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Speaker 2: No, And plus their line is worse. They have two

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Speaker 2: stars that they get the football too, but nobody no

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Speaker 2: other help. I mean, who's the second receiving options that

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Speaker 2: type of thing. Yeah, I don't see it that way.

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Speaker 2: I do like the Jets d a lot.

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Speaker 1: No, the Jets defense is better, there's no there's no

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Speaker 1: doubt about that. But the Steelers, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, Steelers are against the Jets right now. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean they're the better team right now.

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Speaker 1: They would run the ball all over the Jets, I.

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Speaker 2: Would think so, Yeah, and the Jets wouldn't be able

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Speaker 2: to protect and to be a low scoring game.

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Speaker 1: Wilson would turn the ball over a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: And because again nobody looks at the fumbles. Ever, he's

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Speaker 1: horrible the quarterback fumbles never get put into consideration.

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Speaker 2: That he's bad about it.

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Speaker 1: He's horrible at it.

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Speaker 2: He really does not help the team.

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Speaker 1: No. So again, you may look at what Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 1: is doing right now and say, well, he's not throwing

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Speaker 1: any touchdown passes, so he's not winning games for them.

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Speaker 1: In a way, he is winning games for them though,

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Speaker 1: because he's not turning the ball over. He's doing what

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Speaker 1: he's being coached to do this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we need you to do this, and he's doing that. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I mean would we all like him to make more throws?

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Speaker 2: Of course, I mean, no question about it. But no,

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Speaker 2: I mean the formula is in place. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: no question about that. Yeah, they are executing the formula. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Steelers will be able to run

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Speaker 1: the football effectively this week against the Browns?

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Speaker 2: Sort of not like the last two weeks by any stretch,

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Speaker 2: But I think their dedication to it, which shouldn't wane,

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Speaker 2: will pay off at times, you know. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't think they'll average five yards to carry, but I

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Speaker 2: don't think they'll average three, you know. I mean I

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Speaker 2: think that they'll stick with it. They'll stick with it.

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Speaker 2: They'll punt a lot and have some success. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 2: I think you might get I think they'll have over

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Speaker 2: one hundred rushing yards. It's all said and done, you know,

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Speaker 2: a low scoring game.

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Speaker 1: So if you look at what Cleveland and has done

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Speaker 1: this year, seventy five yards against the Bengals in Week

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Speaker 1: one on the ground, they've allowed fifty five in the

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Speaker 1: first matchup against the Steelers. Right, Okay, twenty six against

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Speaker 1: the Titans. The Titans were just the Titans had sixty

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Speaker 1: ninety four yards passing and I'm sorry, they had sixty

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Speaker 1: eight yards passing in twenty six yards rushing in.

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Speaker 2: As bad a game as you'll see from.

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Speaker 1: Ninety four offensive yards in that game.

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Speaker 2: No line was just totally overmatched.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the that's the key. One hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty one they gave up the first time against Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens just didn't even they didn't even put the

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Speaker 1: ball in danger in that game. They didn't they didn't

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Speaker 1: try to do it. Like they said, we're starting your point,

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Speaker 1: we're playing against Dorian Thompson Robertson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we're not.

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Speaker 1: Lamar threw the ball like nineteen times in that game,

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Speaker 1: and they just were content to run the football.

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Speaker 2: And just don't screw it up. Just don't screw it up, right,

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Speaker 2: And the Steelers going to take the same approach.

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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, right. Then it was one hundred and eight

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Speaker 1: against San Francisco, pretty good. One hundred and sixty eight

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Speaker 1: against a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of weather in that game.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of weather was a huge factor

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Speaker 1: in that game. One hundred and sixty eight yards rushing

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Speaker 1: against the Colts.

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Speaker 2: That's a good rushing team.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and fourteen against Seattle. Okay, then they held

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Speaker 1: Arizona to forty one where they didn't have a running back,

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Speaker 1: not an NFL count running back. And then last week

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Speaker 1: against the Ravens they allowed one hundred and six yards.

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Speaker 2: That was a pretty decent game too. Yeah. No, And

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Speaker 2: the problem that their defense has is the offense isn't

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Speaker 2: going to force you to throw, you know, like they're

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Speaker 2: not they're not playing with huge leads. Teams like the

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Speaker 2: Steelers that want to run the ball shouldn't have to

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Speaker 2: get away from it. Yeah, you know through the course

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Speaker 2: of the game. I mean obviously, especially if you don't

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Speaker 2: fear their quarterback. That's what I mean. It's worse now

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Speaker 2: than at any point of the year. You know that

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Speaker 2: where all right, we'll run it three times, maybe we

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Speaker 2: only get six yards in punt, but in the fourth

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Speaker 2: quarter that might be sixteen yards and a new set

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Speaker 2: of downs, and you know, yeah, I think that's a strategy.

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Speaker 1: I would agree with that. So, you know, if I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of glad this game isn't at home because it

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Speaker 1: could get because you know, after this, if the Steelers

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Speaker 1: start punting a lot and early in the games, fans

638
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Speaker 1: would get anxious to start booing the offense and understand

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Speaker 1: what you're trying to accomplish here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's pretty clear what the script is. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that what they're playing is going in and unless you're

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Speaker 2: down fourteen and a half or something because the defensive

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Speaker 2: score or something, goofy mistackle, something along those lines, I

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Speaker 2: think it's keep handled it off a lot. Well that

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Speaker 2: thing or you know whatever.

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Speaker 1: That's the other thing here is the Browns offensively. Two

647
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Speaker 1: turnovers against the Bengals, four turnovers against the Steelers tell

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Speaker 1: you matter who the quarterbacks only one against the Titans,

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Speaker 1: but three against the Ravens, two against the forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 1: two against the Colts, three against the Seahawks. The only game,

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Speaker 1: the only game that they didn't turn the ball over

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Speaker 1: was against the Cardinals because the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: That was totally in hand. Yeah, I'm sure Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Had fifty eight yards of offense.

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Speaker 2: In that game. That was Clayton Toons game. Yeah, that

656
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Speaker 2: was a guy that couldn't even get the team in another.

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Speaker 1: They've had two games this season where they held teams

658
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Speaker 1: to under one hundred total yards. But in both of those. Yeah,

659
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: I mean, so they're they're Their defense is good, really good. Yeah, yeah,

660
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: it's really good. But the numbers are a little inflated

661
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: because of those two games.

662
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: Also, Week one against Burrow was not Yeah, Borrow.

663
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 1: They gave up four hundred and fifty six yards to

664
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: the Colts.

665
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: Oh.

666
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Colts ran the ball on them. They threw

667
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: the ball into a.

668
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: Big, powerful line. Yeah, yeah, I think that. I bet

669
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: to see it. Are watching a lot of cold films.

670
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: They gave up three to sixty two to the Seahawks

671
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: total yards, total yards in that loss.

672
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. They gave a fair amount of Baltimore last week too.

673
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they were they've been. They're six and

674
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: three right now. You want to talk about smoking mirrors

675
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: a little bit. They beat the they beat the forty

676
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: nine ers nineteen seventeen. There was the Tayshawn Gibson had

677
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: the call against him on fourth down. It was called

678
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: it was called unnecessary roughness that he hit the receiver

679
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: in the chest with his shoulder. It wasn't, Yeah, it

680
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: wasn't unnecessary roughness. And then San Francisco missed what a

681
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: forty two yard field or whatever at the buzzard.

682
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: And he lost it. Win it. Yeah.

683
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. The following week against the Colts, they win thirty

684
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: nine to thirty eight. That was just there were in

685
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: the Colts. I think there were two pass interference penalties

686
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: in the end.

687
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: Zone that I don't remember.

688
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: I want to say there were. There were a couple

689
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: of phantom calls in the end zone late in the

690
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: game that allowed them to win that game. So that's

691
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: two wins that they've kind of got the benefit. We're

692
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: fortunate to get the win in now. They beat Baltimore

693
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: last week.

694
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: They did they did, they warm down.

695
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

696
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: But they're a great team, I mean, especially without you know,

697
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: with all the questions of quarterbacks.

698
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: The only game that they haven't had it, they've had

699
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: two games this year where they haven't had at least

700
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: two turnovers.

701
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: That's a thing that's why I keep coming back to

702
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: in this game is I think we all know it's

703
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: a slug fast. Like if he told me right now,

704
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: the Steelers will get the twenty points we take, We'll

705
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: give you twenty points. We take it.

706
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: Like, oh yeah, yeah, you get to twenty, you're gonna

707
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: win this game.

708
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: But every game, no matter who their quarterback is, it's

709
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: multiple turnovers where the Steelers haven't been down that road. Yeah,

710
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: to me, that's a huge, huge deciding factor in this game.

711
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: So here's the thing, Matt. In their last four games,

712
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: here's what the opponents have scored against the Browns. Thirty

713
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: eight points, twenty four points, zero points against the Cardinals

714
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: who didn't have an NFL quarterback, and thirty one points.

715
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: Is the defense starting to get figured out a little bit?

716
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: I'm figured out, but I think it was a little

717
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: inflated to start the season. Two Like EPA, DVOA, all

718
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: that stuff. They were a distant, distant, distant one, you

719
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: know they I remember, like a month of the season,

720
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know what's better, Miami's offense it

721
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: just scored seventy or the Browns defense that nobody can

722
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: move the ball on. That came back to reality. Yeah,

723
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean there aren't eighty five bear defense

724
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: in the league game.

725
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I just look at those rushing totals over

726
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: the last four weeks, where it's one sixty eight, one, fourteen,

727
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: forty one against that Cardinals team that didn't have an

728
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback in one hundred and six like.

729
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: It, would you take one hundred and six or where

730
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: you go fish.

731
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: I'd take one hundred and fourteen.

732
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: I think I'd go fish one six. Yeah, just because

733
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: I think you're not gonna I'd be shocked to the

734
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: Browns run twenty five more plays than the Steelers, you know,

735
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: things like that, or you know have forty time at

736
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: forty minutes of time of possession.

737
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: Well, likewise, Matt the in the last four games, passing

738
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: yard is given up to eighty eight to forty eight,

739
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: seventeen and two hundred against the Ravens who don't want

740
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: to necessarily throw the ball over the yard. So the

741
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: number I get. I think the numbers are a little inflated.

742
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: If you if you, if you do this like NFL

743
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: teams do, and look at Okay, what are they what

744
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 1: have they been the last four games? It's not been

745
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: a dominant dominant it's been a good defense, real good defense.

746
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: It's just it's not a dominant defense. Yeah, it's not

747
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: one of the best defenses we've ever seen.

748
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: You'veiven up twenty four and more points in the last

749
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: in the last four games when you faced an NFL quarterback,

750
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: at least twenty four.

751
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: I think there were some defensive scores in those games too. Well.

752
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: I know that there was one in the Ravens game,

753
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: but I don't I don't think they're were in Seattle

754
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: or Indian.

755
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: The other ones. But yeah, the Ravens were, there was one. No,

756
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: I hear you. I mean, if you can keep them

757
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: on the field a lot and you know, a lot

758
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: of three and outs on the other side, you'll wear

759
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: them down.

760
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you'll. It'll benefit in the end because they

761
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: don't have great depth.

762
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: No. No, they're not huge and overpowering physically either, especially

763
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: at the linebacker position. And you know Kenny can make

764
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: some throws on third and sixes and things like that too.

765
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: They'll go along convert with his legs. Yeah, you know

766
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: those kind of things that that's again just get first downs,

767
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: get first down, get first downs.

768
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, as you said before, drives that end

769
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: in any kind of kick aren't bad in this game.

770
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they are in the fourth quarter, but

771
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: to start the game, punt it deep and should get

772
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: the ball back not that long after.

773
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we're gonna get to another break. He is Matt Williamson.

774
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive here

775
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right

776
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: after this. And Matt, we have some breaking news. Joe

777
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: Burrow out for the year with a torn ligament in

778
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: his hand. That changes the complexion of everything. The Steelers

779
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: are actually kind of fortunate. Well, I mean, everybody else

780
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: had beating the Bengals in division already, but you didn't

781
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: have to face Burrow at all this year.

782
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about that. Our buddy Jeff Hobson just reported

783
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: that one, which is got to be sick. Oh Man

784
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: out for the year with torn ligament. Friend of the show,

785
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: good you know much better than I do. Good dude, Yeah,

786
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: good dude. It's always good to hear. So it's a

787
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: wasted year for the Bengal.

788
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: It is that window. You know, now you're gonna lose

789
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: Higgins in the offseason or you're gonna have to pay

790
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: him like a jillion dollars. Uh, they get some other

791
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: guys on that defense that are going to be the

792
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: right tackle is already not good, but you're gonna lose him.

793
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: He's up.

794
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: I think they need to find a new running back.

795
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: I bet Boyd I would say is unlikely to be back.

796
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: They might be able to get them back on a

797
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: cheaper contractor restructure.

798
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 2: Or something like that. But they got some older dudes

799
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: on defense, not not super older dudes, but they've been

800
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: drafting d you know many time that and I don't

801
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 2: love the old line, but you know.

802
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's that's that's huge news that that I

803
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: don't like that.

804
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: I mean, no, that's not Yay Burrows out, you know,

805
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: I mean, but nobody cares what Cam's out. I mean,

806
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 2: it's it's my least favorite thing about the whole sport

807
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: in league, without question. But Sieros are not going to

808
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: face Burrow. We know that.

809
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's change.

810
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: You're not going to the playoffs.

811
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: Whether they are not going to the playoffs, they.

812
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 2: Pretty much need to run the table and that ain't happening.

813
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: But what I don't want to hear is when the

814
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: Steelers make the playoffs this year, Well, you only made

815
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: it because Burrow wasn't available, or you only made it

816
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: because the Bills had to down here, they're six and

817
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: three right now. When those guys were off with all

818
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: that stuff was going well for these other you know,

819
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: none of that stuff was on the table.

820
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: For this sage November seventeenth. Remember what you thought of

821
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: those teams on November sixteenth too, Yeah, they were both

822
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: in a big hole.

823
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyways, I guess this helps the Bills a little

824
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: I mean it helps everybody, yeah, a little bit.

825
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. So in the last.

826
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: Seven games against the best, seven road games against the

827
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: spread mat the Steelers, they're six and one against the

828
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: spread in their last seven home games. Unders are fifty

829
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: one to twenty four and one in Steeler road games

830
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: over the past ten seasons, including three and oh this year.

831
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: So this is going to be a low scoring game.

832
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: The problem is very over under in this one. Is

833
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: it's thirty two and a half. It's the lowest I've

834
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: seen that, thirty two and a half in an NFL game.

835
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: I think it keeps coming down to Oh my god,

836
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. Yeah. So is this the lowest one in

837
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: the season. I mean, I'm not I.

838
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: Think I think the I think the Jets Giants a

839
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: few weeks ago might have been lower than that.

840
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: They could even get first down either team. Yeah, number

841
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: of punts was higher than that.

842
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: I think they combined for twenty five punts in that game.

843
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly what happened. I mean then went to overtime.

844
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: And it went over. Yeah, so is this a you know,

845
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: to your point about you know, being good, if you

846
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: kick for the thirty two unearth, it has to be

847
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: like sixteen thirteen and have to be seventeen and fourteen

848
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: would be under what's the number again, thirty two and

849
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: a half. Okay, So that's what kind of game you're

850
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: looking at here.

851
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

852
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: So again, if this folks at home, you know, if

853
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: you're watching this game and the Steelers are punting.

854
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: It might be a race to fifteen.

855
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: It might be if you get the first team.

856
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: Again, field goals are going to be very valuable.

857
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: Certainly, seventeen would be huge, sixteen seventeen points if you

858
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: can get to twenty.

859
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: A second or two ago, I asked you, would you

860
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: take twenty. I'm like, oh, yeah, absolutely, I might take seventeen.

861
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: Yeah today, you know.

862
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you can get a you know, if

863
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: you can get Dorian Thompson Robinson to give you one,

864
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: that's how we matter.

865
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they'd give the ball up a lot.

866
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: Fifteen fumbles for this That's the other thing about it.

867
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: It's not all interceptions for this Bengals team. They fumbled

868
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: fifteen times. They haven't lost them all again. It doesn't

869
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: matter who the quarterback is. It's not like, no, they

870
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: put this back up in there, that's over, you know, No,

871
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: it's every week, no matter who plays quarterback. Yeah. So

872
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: they they've put the ball on the ground and it's

873
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: and it's.

874
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 2: Kind of do run a lot of plays right still,

875
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: But if you.

876
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: Look at it, Watson had five, PJ. Walker had two,

877
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore's got one, Dorian Thompson Robinson has one, Amari

878
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: Cooper has one, David and Joku has one. Donovan people

879
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: shuns he's no longer with him, but he has one.

880
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: James proshe has one. They like, they've put them in

881
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: it around. They put the ball on the ground.

882
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 2: So as Mike pursued and I do every Thursday night,

883
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: we had a good conversation with Merril Hodge and Meryl's

884
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: always enjoyable. Of course, he was talking about his old

885
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: you know, the rivalry against the Browns and all that.

886
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: But we finally got the DTR and he said he

887
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: started like laughing. He was basically, to paraphrase, he said,

888
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: that might have been my favorite tape to watch all

889
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 2: year was DTR against the Raven. He was awful. And

890
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 2: that's what he said. He's like, this guy didn't even care.

891
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: Merril said, I probably watched six plays for the first time,

892
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: and the play would start like, is he thinking about

893
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: throwing that? Oh, I think he's gonna throw He threw it.

894
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: What's he doing?

895
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 2: Pick near pick?

896
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: You're like he had no conscience whatsoever, Like, yeah, I'm

897
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: throwing it. Man. Here's the thing.

898
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: I think, you go a fly.

899
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: The the the excuses coming out of Cleveland this week

900
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: or the people out of in Cleveland. Well, you know,

901
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: he didn't have any time to prepare for that. That

902
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: start the first entirely, that's not true at all, because

903
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: he didn't know.

904
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: Until kickoff he was starting.

905
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: He was starting, but Watson was in practice. He will

906
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: practice all week long. So somebody took snaps, somebody took

907
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: the first team snaps during the week, and since he started,

908
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: I would assume it was him.

909
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: Why would it be Walker? And then they say, hey, you,

910
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: why don't you start the game? Right? At a minimum,

911
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 2: he took the second team reps, but why would he get.

912
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: He took the he took the first team reps and

913
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: and don't may not have known he was starting that part,

914
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: but you had took the first team reps all week

915
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: long and that's still what you put on tape. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

916
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: I expect him to be better than that in game two.

917
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean I think there is something too. Boy, I've

918
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: been in a stadium. I understand the speed of the game.

919
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he's a little more careful than what

920
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: I just describe. On the other side of that, the

921
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: Ravens didn't know he was starting that game and had

922
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: no tape on him whatsoever.

923
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, just none. That's true to They probably didn't prepare it.

924
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: For wat they prepared for Watson. They didn't prep it

925
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: all for him, and they still turned him over four times.

926
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: And he was not bas Yeah right, throw the approach

927
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: he takes, he'll get benched. Yeah, I don't know if

928
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: he'll be in the second half. If he's that willy

929
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: nilly with the ball, you know, like go try it.

930
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: You can't do.

931
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 2: That's the only thing you can't do in this game.

932
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: The problem is there's a reason why they're working out

933
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco today.

934
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is frightening. That's all you need to know.

935
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a reason why they're doing it because they

936
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: know these two guys aren't the answer.

937
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 2: I assume if they're going to go sign a Flacco Joe,

938
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: we just need a game manager. We don't trust these

939
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: two d manage the game because they turn it over.

940
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: We got a chance, we got a chance to get

941
00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: into the playoffs.

942
00:39:59,680 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 2: Again.

943
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: We're kind of we're kind of punning on this. We're

944
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 1: not punning on it, but we're we're hoping this kid

945
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: can win this game for us this week and then

946
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: next week you'll be the starter.

947
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're in total don't screw it up mode. Yeah,

948
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: and he won't. I mean that that would make some sense.

949
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: I mean, is he going to do anything with his

950
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: legs those guys, of course not.

951
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: But you recruited Joe to Pitt.

952
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: I know he played some free safety though at Autuba

953
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: On High School.

954
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not going to put him there.

955
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: No, he can move a little bit. Back in the day,

956
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 2: that was a long time ago.

957
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: Did he hit in the unibrow when he's in high school?

958
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. I'm trying to think about it, Yeah,

959
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: a little bit. We weren't at pitt together, so I

960
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: helped recruit him and then when he showed up, I

961
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: was at Akron and he was there. Yeah, and he

962
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: transfers after.

963
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: So if you're the Steelers, don't screw this one up.

964
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 2: You're getting gifts.

965
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: You're getting the gift. Take they take the take the

966
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 1: gift and be and be gone for next week already too. Yeah,

967
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: it's tremendous news.

968
00:40:59,760 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

969
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: Maybe there's a bidding worn out between the Bengals and

970
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: Browns for Joe Flacco services. Yeah, I was pissed that

971
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: Wentz got picked up. Hey, uh, you know, that's just

972
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: that's the way it goes. Like there's not a bunch

973
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: of guys sitting around on couches. The immediate the immediate

974
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: reaction will be is because it happened with who's the

975
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: last Quese? Well, when Watson got hurt, maybe they could

976
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: talk one of these old guys off the couch. You

977
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: know what, could Tom Brady go coach the Bengals or

978
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: go play.

979
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: For Philip Rivers name, Matt Ryan.

980
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: Does nobody remember Philip Rivers fumbled the ball sixteen times?

981
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 2: Remember about Ryan?

982
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: He was he was awful, My lord Ryan, Philip Rivers

983
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: is like.

984
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: Three years Yeah, I mean your Ben's name.

985
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: Ben's name. Yeah, Like Ben's gonna go play for the

986
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: Bengals or the Browns.

987
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 2: Come on five hundred times, let's go do more of that.

988
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm not enjoying hanging out my kids at all, with

989
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: all my money and doing a podcast and do what

990
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: I want to do. And of course not Auto Graham

991
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: isn't available, right, Brian Psyche Right now.

992
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: It's bad.

993
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: It's it's a bad situation. It is.

994
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: I mean I feel I mean the season shot for

995
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: the Bengals, Yeah, they're done. Yeah, and it was kind

996
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: of shot in training camp. Yeah, I mean, looking back

997
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 2: what could have been.

998
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to another break. He is Matt Williamson.

999
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to the drive here

1000
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back, it's time

1001
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: for the Fantasy Football focus. And despite losing both our

1002
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: captain and this is one of the quarterbacks last night,

1003
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: our lineup in the in the contest we were in

1004
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: We still finished in the money last night and.

1005
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: This blew me away. But it makes me like these

1006
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 2: single game stuff more because it makes some sense. Yeah.

1007
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: Cool, So we're gonna get to our DFS lineup for

1008
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: the weekend after this. We'll be back with more on

1009
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: the Drive.