1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: This episode contains content that may be disturbing to some listeners. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Please check the show notes for more information. Disgraceland is 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: a production of Double Elvis. This is the story of 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: how Jim Morrison really died. It's not the story of 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: a junkie rock star overdosing on heroin, a drug Jim 6 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Morrison didn't use, a drug Jim's friends knew that he despised, 7 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: and it's not the story of a singer dying from 8 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: an innocuous heart attack. This story deals with what I 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: believe to be the truth behind Jim Morrison's death and 10 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: the shadowy figure from one of music history's darkest corners, 11 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: a man whose name seldom gets mentioned, but who is 12 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 1: known not only by the door as frontman, but by 13 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Janis Joplin, Keith Richards, Parsons, and many others from the 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: sixties and seventies rock scene who found themselves in need 15 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 1: of hard drugs. This figure was an aristocrat, a French 16 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: count by the name of Jean de Boutoi, and he 17 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: was hated by Jim Morrison. But he was there in Paris, 18 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: on the scene at Jim's apartment the morning after he died. 19 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: Why what did this mysterious count have to do with 20 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: Jim's common law wife, his girlfriend, Pamela Corson, And did 21 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: he have something to do with Jim's death or did 22 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: Jim Morrison, as conspiracy theorists would have us believe, ever, 23 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: even die at all. Did he fake his own death 24 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: to escape the pressures of being in the doors of 25 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: being a rock star, of making music great music? Unlike 26 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: that music I played for you at the top of 27 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: the show. That wasn't great music. That was a preset 28 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: loop from my melotron called Misty Mountain Flop MK one. 29 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: I played you that loote because I can't afford the 30 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: rights to It's too late. 31 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: I Feel the. 32 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 3: Earth Move under my feet by Carol King. And why 33 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: would I play you that specific slice of double A 34 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: side Cheese? 35 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: Could I afford it? 36 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: Because that was the number one song in America on 37 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: July third, nineteen seventy one, And that was the day 38 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: Jim Morrison supposedly died of a heroin overdose, or, depending 39 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: on who you talk to, faked his own death. But 40 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: neither of those things are true. This is what really happened. 41 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: This is the story of how Jim Morrison really died. 42 00:02:46,440 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: I'm Jake Brennan, and this is Disgraceland. Jim Morrison is alive. 43 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: He's eighty two years old and living a quiet life 44 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: in a cottage somewhere in the south of France, reading 45 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: Rombeau and writing poetry. 46 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 2: Actually, no, he's not. He's dead. 47 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: But before he died, he was the Zodiac Killer, and 48 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: then after he faked his death, he was Rush Limbaugh. 49 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: But those things aren't true either, but people do believe them. 50 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: Ever since the moment news broke back in July of 51 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy one that Jim Morrison, the singer of The Doors, 52 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: had died, a good amount of people, even people close 53 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: to Jim, wouldn't accept the fact that he was actually dead. 54 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: They just wouldn't believe it. Dora's keyboard player Ray Manzak 55 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: was immediately skeptical his own sister and is on record 56 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: saying that Jim is the exact type of guy who 57 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: would fake his own death. 58 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: And he was. 59 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: Jim Morrison courted death. He'd drank himself into oblivion and 60 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: ate acid like it was candy. He dangled himself from 61 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: hotel balconies, stumbled through traffic, cut himself in a cult 62 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 3: blood sacrifices while blitzed on cocaine and saying about breaking 63 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: on through to the other side in the evidence in 64 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: the aftermath of his death, at least the evidence available 65 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: to the public was most definitely sketchy enough to lead 66 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: people to believe that Jim's death was perhaps something else. Supposedly, 67 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: nobody close to the Doors who knew Jim besides his 68 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 3: common law wife Pamela Corson aka Pam Morrison, saw the body, 69 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: and by the time Doris manager Bill Siddons arrived in 70 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: Paris three days after Jim's death, the coffin was sealed 71 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 3: and there was no autopsy. A day after Bill Siddons arrived, 72 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: Jim Morrison was quickly buried in Paris and his body 73 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 3: was never returned to the United States. Jim Morrison died 74 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 3: officially of heart failure, but no one believes that. Most 75 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: believed that Jim died of a heroin overdose. But I 76 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: don't believe that, and after listening to this podcast, you 77 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 3: own either. At the time of Jim Morrison's death in 78 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: July of nineteen seventy one, the Doors were one of 79 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 3: the biggest bands on the planet. Embroiled in controversy because 80 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: of Jim's antics. The band had just finished recording what 81 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: would be their final album, La Woman. Though the band 82 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: had experienced critical and creative highs and lows, the Doors 83 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: were still a top selling band, and with the completion 84 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: of La Woman, the band was free from their recording 85 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: obligations with Electra Records and was now the subject of 86 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: a new bidding war between other record labels. The word 87 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: was that Atlantic Records was about to offer the Doors 88 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: an unprecedented amount of cash to sign with them. All 89 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: of this was happening at the same time that Jim 90 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: Morrison was awaiting the verdict for an appeal of his 91 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: conviction concerning an incident two years prior in Miami where 92 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 3: Jim had exposed himself to an audience on stage. Jim 93 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 3: was facing six months in prison for the crime. Nineteen 94 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: seventy one was a time of great creative and personal 95 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: turmoil for Jim Morrison. He had just completed what he 96 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 3: believed to be his band's greatest album. He no longer 97 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: had a record label to answer to, and he wasn't 98 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: sure he wanted a new one. In a new set 99 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: of headaches, his girlfriend Pam had left Jim in Los 100 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: Angeles that spring to live in Paris. Jim suspected she 101 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: was living with another man, one who indulged her heroin happy, 102 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: a habit Jim Morrison hated. In addition to being separated 103 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 3: from the one true love of his life and facing 104 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: prison time, Jim was exhausted by the image he'd created, 105 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: that of the Lizard King, a swashbuckling leatherclat Adonna's part 106 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: rock and roll genius, part drunken buffoon. Jim had eaten 107 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: all the acid, he slept with, all the groupies, it 108 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: experienced all the things, and now he romanticized a quieter 109 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: life as a poet. So he traded Los Angeles, the 110 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: city of Night that he sang about an La Woman, 111 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: for Paris, the City of Light. To understand how Jim 112 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: Morrison really died in Paris in nineteen seventy one, you 113 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: have to understand what happened in Los Angeles in nineteen seventy. 114 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: Count Jean de Brettoi had one green eye and one yellow. 115 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: He also had the strongest heroine in Los Angeles. The 116 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: Count was young, handsome, mysterious, and hated by Jim Marrison, 117 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: which was an anomaly as plenty of rock stars counted 118 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: the Count as their friend, Keith Richards, Janis Joplin, Graham Parsons, 119 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: members of the GTOs, and perhaps even Jimmy Hendricks. But 120 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: Jim hated the Count for the exact reason that these 121 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: other rock stars appreciated the young foreign aristocrat, because he 122 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: dealt heroin. To Jim's great annoyance, the Count shared his 123 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: heroine with Jim's girlfriend, Pamela. In fact, the two shared 124 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: more than their love of the addictive opiate. Pamela and 125 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 3: the Count had a romantic relationship that likely stretched back 126 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: to the Count's first days in Los Angeles as a 127 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: UCLA student, where he became the university's Hashish supplier by 128 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: using his family's French diplomatic connections to smuggle drugs into 129 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: the States through the moroccan An embassy and on to campus. 130 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: The Count was rich and Pamela corson. Despite her relationship 131 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: with Jim Morrison, one of the most famous rock stars 132 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: on the planet, was not. The Count took Pamela on 133 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: extravagant jet set shopping sprees all over the world. 134 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: He spoiled her. Jim did not. 135 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: The Count loved the fact that Pamela was friends with 136 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: famous rock stars. Jim Morrison could care less about status. 137 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: The Count used Pamela's connection to the La rock scene 138 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: to move not only Hash but Heroin, and Jim Morrison, 139 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: by every account from everyone. 140 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: Who knew him, hated Heroin. He had an. 141 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 3: Extreme lifelong fear of hypodermic needles. Pamela's Heroin used was 142 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: seriously frowned upon by Jim and a regular source of 143 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: tension between the couple, but that didn't keep the Count 144 00:09:53,559 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 3: from creeping around Jim and Pam's Hollywood bungalow during this time. 145 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: In the fall of nineteen seventy, Jim Morrison was cooling 146 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: his jets in Los Angeles awaiting sentencing for his indecency charges. 147 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: In Miami, the band was beginning work on their La 148 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: Women album and dealing with the fact that their longtime 149 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: producer and creative confidant, Paul Rothschild no longer wanted to 150 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: work with them over the direction their music had taken, 151 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: veering into schmaltzy territory. He said, sounded like cocktail music. 152 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: So Jim Morrison drank a lot and snorted a ton 153 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 3: of cocaine and carried on relationships with various women not 154 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: named Pamela Corson. Elsewhere in the city of Los Angeles' 155 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: bodies were dropping. A spate of heroin overdoses in the 156 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: first few days of October nineteen seventy were overrunning La 157 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: County emergency rooms. Street dealers went on the land when 158 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: news began to circulate that their product was killing innocent attics, 159 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: medical Examine and there's Toe attack victims who unwittingly injected 160 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: what was known as the dealer's supply, uncut, highly potent, 161 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: purebatch heroine that had flooded La streets that weekend. The 162 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: lethal dope sent nine people to the morgue, all because 163 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: some dealers screwed up and didn't dilute his illegal product 164 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: with a cutting agent, an additive that would allow the 165 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: drug to be injected without its potency. 166 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: Stopping the user's hearts. 167 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: It was the act of an irresponsible dealer, either that 168 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: or someone who just didn't care, someone who believed they 169 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: were not only above the law, but who looked down 170 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: on his customers, who put on a pedestal those with status, 171 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: the beautiful people like him, the rock stars. He coveted 172 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: relationships with someone like the boyfriend of Jim Morrison's girlfriend Pamela, 173 00:11:52,679 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 3: someone like the Count Jean de Bretoi. So Jim Morrison 174 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 3: had reason to fake his own death to disappear. He 175 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 3: was exhausted by his rock star image. He was potentially 176 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: headed to jail because of the criminal sentencing in Miami. 177 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: He was suddenly free from his obligations to his record 178 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: label and to his bandmates. Los Angeles had become a 179 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: hotbed of heroin use, a drug his girlfriend Pamela couldn't shake. 180 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: Those were the reasons. But where could Jim Morrison, an 181 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: internationally recognizable rock star, disappear to For Jim, there could 182 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 3: be only one answer. Paris. Paris was perfect. It was Bohemian, romantic. 183 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: It had a rich history of French poets like Arthur 184 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: Rimbau and Paul Verlaine, who did some of their best 185 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 3: work in the city. Plus American expat writers like Gertrude Stein, 186 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: Ts Eliott and Ernest Hemingway had all left their marks 187 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: on Paris back in the twenties. Perhaps now fifty years later, 188 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: the city would inspire Jim Morrison to do the same. 189 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: So how would Jim Morrison then fake his own death? Well, 190 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 3: there would need to be a cause of death heart attack, 191 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: that was believable, and he'd needed an accomplice to help 192 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 3: him with the faking of the death, and then of 193 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: course with the disappearing act, and ideally someone to disappear with, 194 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: and that was obvious Pamela Courson was the only answer. 195 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: He and Pam would likely have to prevent authorities from 196 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: closely inspecting the body. There would need to be a 197 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: quick burial of an empty casket, of course, and the 198 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: burial would most certainly have to be in Paris. 199 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: The body would have. 200 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: To be interred locally and not return to the States 201 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: in order to maintain their secret. And then well, at 202 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: that point, after the funeral, Pam could disappear with Jim 203 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: and they could go anywhere they wanted. They could retire 204 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: to Vienna and live the life of bohemians. They could 205 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: move to Tuscany and live off of the land. They 206 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: could stay in Paris and lay low for a while 207 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: until anonymously blending back into the rhythm of the city 208 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: after some time. They could even return to the United 209 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: States it was big enough to disappear in. They could 210 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: head to Texas or Florida, or the mountains in Colorado 211 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: anywhere was better than Los Angeles, but no one here 212 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: gets out alive. To pull off their scheme, Jim and 213 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: presumably Pam would need friends to help enter Alon Rene 214 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: in Agnes Varda Alan was one of Jim's friends, a 215 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: photographer who was in Paris at the time, and Agnes 216 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: Vardo was another one of Jim's friends, the trail blazing 217 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: French filmmaker who was at the time assisting Bernard Bertolucci 218 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: with the script for Las Tango in Paris. Both were 219 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: on the scene on July third, nineteen seventy one, in 220 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: the immediate hours after Jim's death, at Jim and Pam's apartment, 221 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: summoned by Pam that evening to help her through the 222 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 3: ordeal of dealing with the French authorities and the police 223 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: and medical examiner and their nosy neighbors. And from Milan 224 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: Rene's depiction of the death scene, it doesn't appear at 225 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: all that either he or Agnes Vardo were in any 226 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: way in on any sort of scheme to help Jim 227 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: Morrison fake his own death. Now, remember the evidence that 228 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: conspiracy theorists used to support the theory that Jim Morrison 229 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: didn't die is that number one, nobody saw the body, 230 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: and number two, there was no autopsy. In three, he 231 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: was buried very quickly in a sealed coffin. But Alan 232 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: Renee and Agnes Varda did see the body, and so. 233 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: Did a whole lot of other people. 234 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: More on that in a minute. And there may not 235 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: have been an autopsy, but that's because Pamela Corson was 236 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: hell bent on making sure that that didn't happen, and 237 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: Alan Renee and Agnes Varda had a front row seat 238 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: to the decisions made by the medical examiner. More on 239 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: that in a bit too sure. The body may have 240 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: been buried quickly in a sealed coffin without anyone from 241 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: America seeing it before it was interred, but that was 242 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: because Pamela Corson was, according to Alan Rene, determined to 243 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: make sure that authorities didn't discover that Jim Morrison, the 244 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: American rock star, had died of a drug overdose. Pamela 245 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: didn't want their apartments searched. She didn't want to be 246 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: detained by authorities either. She also didn't want Jim's reputation 247 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: tainted by a cause of death having to do with 248 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: illicit drugs, so a quick burial without an autopsy was necessary, 249 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: And if this meant that Jim's family and friends wouldn't 250 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: have the chance to see him in the flesh one 251 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: last time, then from Pamela Corson's perspective, so be it. 252 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: But to the conspiracy theorist, I say, Alan Rene did 253 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 3: see the body, as did a whole lot of other Parisians, 254 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: including a Frenchman whom Milan saw on the scene at 255 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: Jim and Pam's apartment in the hours just after his death, 256 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: and that Frenchman, the Count Jean de Brettoi, back in 257 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: Los Angeles a few months earlier, in the fall of 258 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy. Over that weekend, the emergency rooms were overrun 259 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 3: with heroin fatalities. The Count Jean de Brettoi sat nervously 260 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 3: in Mercy Fontano's Hollywood apartment. Mercy was known around the 261 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 3: LA rock scene as Miss Mercy. She was a protege 262 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: of Frank Zappa, part of the all girl rock group 263 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: the GTOs, and like most of the LA scene at 264 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 3: the time, she was friendly with the Count. The Count 265 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 3: told her, I have something for you. Mercy had a 266 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: habit of saying yes to any drug put in front 267 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 3: of her. The Count had a new batch of dope. 268 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: The Count wanted to see the effect that drug had 269 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: on one of his clients. He just dropped off a 270 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 3: few baggies with another client an hour or so ago 271 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 3: and had a weird feeling about it. He was worried 272 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: was this dope too strong? The Count could shoot up 273 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: Miss Mercy and if everything was okay, then he'd know 274 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: and he could stop worrying. And if the dope was 275 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: too strong. 276 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 2: Well it was too late to cut it. 277 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: Too much of it was already out on the street, 278 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 3: but at least the Count wouldn't know, and he could 279 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 3: make arrangements to fly out of the country before anything 280 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: bad came back on him. The Count sat back and 281 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: watched Miss Mercy shoot his heroin. Immediately something was wrong. 282 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: Miss Mercy felt it. She started struggling, panting, waving her 283 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 3: arms and trying to speak, but the words wouldn't come. 284 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 3: It was exactly like one of those dreams. The monster 285 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: is there with you in the room. You can see him, 286 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: but no one else can. He's going to kill you, 287 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 3: but you can't get your voice to work. You're trying 288 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: to scream, but nothing comes out. Miss Mercy was trying 289 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: to say something. Her eyes rolled back into her skull 290 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: and her head fell backward against the chair. She then 291 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 3: pulled her head back up in the struggle, and it 292 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: rolled loosely around her shoulders as she managed to somehow 293 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: get out the words I'm going down. 294 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: I'm going down. 295 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: The Count could see that and was already working to 296 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 3: solve the problem by loading a syringe with cocaine dissolved 297 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 3: in water. He then jammed the needle into Mercy's other arm, 298 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: a direct hit with a vein. Mercy shot up out 299 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: of her seat with a gasp. She was going to 300 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: be okay, but the Count had his answer. The heroine 301 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 3: was not okay. This heroin was too strong, and yes, 302 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: it most certainly needed to be diluted. He thought of 303 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 3: his other client, the one whom he just left with 304 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 3: numerous baggies of this lethal heroin. He remembered that she 305 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 3: wore an amulet around her neck, and that she kept 306 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: it filled with cocaine for occasions just like this, a 307 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 3: precaution to snap her back to life if heroin ever 308 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: sent her into an overdose. Except what she didn't know, 309 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 3: and what the Count also didn't know, was that his 310 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 3: client had a friend and that friend had decided that 311 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: cocaine wasn't as useful to have around as heroin was, 312 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 3: so that friend emptied the cocaine from the Count's client's 313 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 3: amulet and stuffed it with heroin. That same night, when 314 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: the Count's client injected his dope and had the same 315 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 3: reaction Miss Mercy had, she reached for the cocaine in 316 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 3: her amulet and quickly snorted it in an effort to 317 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 3: save her own life. Except what she ended up snorting 318 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: instead was more heroin. So Janis Joplin died of a 319 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: double dose of Count Jean de Bertoi's lethal heroin on 320 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: October fourth, nineteen seventy, along with eight other victims in 321 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: the Los Angeles area that weekend. This happened just two 322 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 3: weeks after Jimmy Hendrix died in London, officially from choking 323 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: on his own vomit after taking too many of barbituates 324 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 3: and drinking too much wine. But there were already rumors 325 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: that authorities had it all wrong, that Jimmy had been murdered, 326 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: something to do with his manager and an insurance policy 327 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 3: and a debt to the mob and being injected with 328 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: a hot shot of heroin. Either way, a couple days 329 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 3: later in Hollywood, when Jim Morrison got word that Janis 330 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 3: Joplin had died, he sat at the bar at Barney's Beanery, 331 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: stared into his whisky, raised his glass to the barflies, 332 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 3: and said, you're drinking with number three. 333 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this word word word. 334 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: Jim Morrison was right. Less than a year later, he 335 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: would indeed become number three. He was dead, and he 336 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: most certainly did not fake his own death and disappear again. 337 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: To recap the conspiracy, theorist case that Jim faked his 338 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 3: own death relies on the claim that nobody saw his 339 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 3: body after he died, nobody besides Pamela and perhaps a 340 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: crooked Parisian official or two who were bribed. But this 341 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 3: is categorically false. According to Alan Rene, Agnes Varda, and 342 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: many others, there were numerous people who streamed in and 343 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 3: out of Jim and Pam's apartment in the hours after 344 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 3: he died, trying to make sense of the situation, and 345 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: Jim's body was on full display. Jim's heart stopped sometime 346 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: in the early morning hours of July third, nineteen seventy one. 347 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: His body was discovered by Pamela, she claims, a few 348 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 3: hours after that, in the bathtub, lying in the water dead, 349 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: and that's where the body was when Alan and Agnes 350 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: arrived a few hours later, after Pamela had called him 351 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 3: to come over to help assist with the ordeal that 352 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: was unfolding around her. When Alan arrived, there was already 353 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 3: a police investigator on the scene who had taken charge. 354 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 3: He obviously saw the body. Alan, being a French expat, 355 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 3: helped the inspector translate the information that he needed from Pamela, 356 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: who only spoke English. Pamela, according to Alan, was determined 357 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 3: not to let the inspector or anyone else know the 358 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: truth of Jim's identity, that he was a rock star. 359 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: She wanted them to believe he was an ordinary American citizen. 360 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: Alan assumed that this was to head off any unwanted 361 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 3: attention from the press, which is understandable. Along with the 362 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: police inspector, there were now paramedics on the scene, and 363 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 3: they also saw the body still in the tubs, still 364 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 3: submerged in water. More policemen arrived and more eyes on 365 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: the body. The front door to the apartment was opened, 366 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: Alan saw a curious neighbor from the building just wander 367 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 3: inside the apartment, and the neighbor later recounted that he 368 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: too saw the body. The apartment was a hive of 369 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 3: activity in those morning hours and during all of this. 370 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 3: At some point Alan and Agnes pulled Pamela aside to 371 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 3: get the story. Pamela explained that earlier in the evening, 372 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 3: she and Jim decided to sniff some heroin. She went 373 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: to bed. He then, apparently according to Pamela, snorted more heroin, 374 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: drew a bath, got into the tub, and never got out. 375 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 3: Alan was immediately skeptical. He was close with Jim Marson. 376 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 3: He knew that Jim hated heroin, and that Jim hated 377 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: when Pamela used heroin. The idea that he would use 378 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 3: heroin with Pamela was highly suspicious. There was now a 379 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: doctor on the scene. He saw the body as well, 380 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 3: and he wanted to know from Milan what Jim's story was. 381 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: The phone then rang. Pamela answered it and spoke in 382 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 3: hushed tones. Alan knew who she was speaking with, her 383 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: Parisian friends, the ones Jim hated so much, the ones 384 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 3: Jim wanted Pamela to break free from the heroin addicts 385 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 3: Jim said to Alan recently about Pam in regards to 386 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 3: her and her friends and her heroin habit, quote, you 387 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: and I are on the side of life, She is 388 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 3: on the side of death. Pam told Alan that she 389 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: had gotten rid of all the drugs in the apartment, 390 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 3: but Alan also saw Pam inside of Jim's desk while 391 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 3: the authorities were pre occupied locking away his papers his poetry. 392 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 3: She then made for the fireplace with another stack of papers, letters, 393 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: letters that she had written musings. She told Alan about 394 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 3: her drug use that she didn't want the authorities to find. 395 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 3: She set fire to the letters in the fireplace as 396 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: she also grabbed the newsweek magazine Jim was reading and 397 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 3: the cover story on that magazine the Plague of Heroin. 398 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 3: Pamela then grabbed a fur coat. It belonged to one 399 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: of her friends and it was seemingly. 400 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: Worth a lot of money. 401 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 3: She told Alan that she had to call her sister 402 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: in Los Angeles and that she wanted her sister to 403 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: head to the Electra Records office to steal the latest 404 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: earnings from the doors before it was too late. Alan 405 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 3: Renee is on record recounting this statement from Pamela corson. 406 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: Alan suggested that instead of focusing on stealing money, that 407 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 3: they called Jim's lawyer in Los Angeles to help arrange 408 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: the necessary affairs of the deceased. Emila did not like 409 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 3: this idea. She then explained that she wanted Jim's body cremated. 410 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 3: Alan protested cremation in France was something that criminals did 411 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 3: to the deceased when they didn't want to answer questions 412 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 3: about the recently departed. But Pamela didn't want Jim's body 413 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: flown back to the United States. She was suspicious of 414 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: the process the body would be inspected. She didn't want 415 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 3: it known that Jim overdosed, so cremation was necessary. Alan 416 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 3: protested again and convinced Pam that a proper burial could 417 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 3: take place there In Paris quickly at Perlachet's Cemetery, the 418 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: eternal home of great artists, befitting of Jim's post mortem company, 419 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 3: including Frederick Chopin, Eugene Delacroix, Edith Piaf, and Oscar Wilde. 420 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 3: In the meantime, Jim's body would remain in the apartment 421 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 3: in the tub on ice, with Pam sleeping next to him, 422 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: keeping guard throughout the end of the weekend and into Monday, 423 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: a highly unusual move, something that authorities told Pam was 424 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: nearly never done. But Pam wouldn't allow the police inspector, 425 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: or the medical inspector or the doctors to prevail against 426 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 3: her wishes to keep the body in the apartment until 427 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 3: the funeral. For reasons I still don't understand, authorities allowed 428 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 3: Pam to keep the body there in the apartment. Dry 429 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 3: ice was delivered and the bathtub was packed, and Jim 430 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 3: Morrison's dead body remained under the watchful eyes of his girlfriend, 431 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: Pamela Corson. A month earlier, in June nineteen seventy one, 432 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 3: in the south of France, on the French Riviera, at 433 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 3: a decadent hideaway known as Vaenelco, the Rolling Stones had 434 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: begun recording what would become their masterpiece Exile on Main Street. 435 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: They were outlaws on the run, hiding out from UK 436 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 3: tax collectors. In addition to their financial problems, the Stones 437 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 3: had another problem where to procure heroin to satiate the 438 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: habits of Stone's guitarist Keith Richards and his friend and 439 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: visitor to Nellcote, The cosmic American songwriter Graham Parsons. To 440 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: solve this problem, the Stones had another visitor, the Count 441 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: Jean de Brettoi. Keith Richards was so impressed by the 442 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: Count's product that he offered the Count use of his 443 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: home in London. The Count took Keith up on the offer. 444 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: He left the French Riviera for Keith's place, and when 445 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: he settled into Keith Diggs in the Tony neighborhood of 446 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: London's chain Walk, he made some new friends, new friends 447 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: with similar habits. Talithagetty, heiress to the Getty Fortune, an actress, songwriter, 448 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: Rolling Stone's muse and ex girlfriend to Mick Jagger, mary 449 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: Anne Faithful. The Count was especially keen on mary Anne. 450 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 3: Mary Anne was rock and roll Royalty. Mary Anne co 451 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 3: wrote the Stone song Sister Morphine. She was famously part 452 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 3: of the Stones bust at Redlands. She was the infamous 453 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: naked girl in Fur who was plastered all over the 454 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: front pages of the newspapers back in nineteen sixty seven, 455 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: and she loved heroin so in June of nineteen seventy one, 456 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: while Count Jean de Battoi took advantage of Keith Richards's 457 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 3: offer to use his home in London. He also took 458 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 3: advantage of his new neighbour's heroin habit and used his 459 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 3: supply to begin a relationship with one of London's hippis 460 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 3: young women, Mick Jaggers ex Maryanne Faithful. The pair quickly 461 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 3: decided to split from London for Paris. The Count had 462 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 3: another girl there, another girl who relied on his heroin, 463 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 3: another girl with a rock star boyfriend, Pamela Corson aka 464 00:30:45,240 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 3: Pam Morrison. In the early hours of July third, nineteen 465 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: seventy one, Marianne Faithful and the Count Jean de Battoia 466 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: awoke to the sound of the telephone they were in 467 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: bed in a five star Paris hotel. According to Marianne, 468 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 3: Pamela Corson was on the other end of the line 469 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 3: and she was frantic, begging the Count to come to 470 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 3: her apartment immediately. Marianne was not jealous anything, but she 471 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: wanted desperately to meet the notorious rock star Jim Morrison. 472 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 3: The Count wouldn't allow it, though. After hanging up, he 473 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: quickly dressed and left Marianne behind for Pamela. 474 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: Jim Morrison was dead by that time. 475 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 3: On the morning of July third, nineteen seventy one. His 476 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 3: death was not faked. We know this because of the many, 477 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: many people who saw his body over the span of 478 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 3: many hours later on that morning. The more interesting question 479 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 3: isn't did Jim Morrison fake his death? No, the more 480 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: interesting question is how did Jim Morrison die? Officially, a 481 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: French medical examiner determined that Jim Morrison died of heart failure. 482 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 3: This is what Pamela Courson wanted. She did not want 483 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: it known that Jim died of a drug overdose, but 484 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 3: he did. 485 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: Clearly. 486 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: She'd admitted that on the scene to Lanrone. This information 487 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: was corroborated by Agnes Varda, who was also there with 488 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: Alan and Pam, and it's been confirmed over and over 489 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: again by others close to Jim and Pam. But Jim 490 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: Morrison dying of a heroin overdose doesn't make sense because 491 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 3: everyone who knew Jim Morrison, including Pamela Corson, knew that 492 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 3: he despised heroin. 493 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: He didn't use heroin. 494 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: Jim Morrison drained and used cocaine. Furthermore, he was in 495 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 3: Paris to clean up, to get healthy, so it strands 496 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: credulity to believe that he chose this time in his 497 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: life to develop a heroin habit, especially after, according to 498 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: his close friend Alan Rene, he'd recently described the drug 499 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: and his girlfriend's and her friend's usage of the drug 500 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: as deathly. But wait, there's more. In the police report 501 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: file by the Paris Police Superintendent, Pamela Courson stated to 502 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 3: him that pam found Jim's body in the tub, submerged 503 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,239 Speaker 3: in water sometime between eight thirty and nine am, and 504 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 3: then she called authorities shortly thereafter. Pam further claimed that 505 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: she last saw Jim alive sometime around four in the 506 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: morning before she went to bed. However, in the report 507 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 3: file by the Paris Fire Brigade detailing the evidence as 508 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 3: witnessed by the lieutenant on the scene that morning, when 509 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 3: he arrived on the scene at nine twenty one am, 510 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: the water in the tub was still luke warm. Now 511 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 3: would the water still be warm if Jim drew his 512 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 3: bath hours earlier, or perhaps was the bath drawn later after, 513 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 3: perhaps after Jim died, Perhaps after Jim died somewhere other 514 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 3: than the tub, perhaps after Jim was placed in the tub. 515 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 3: What happened between the hours of four am when Pamela 516 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 3: last saw Jim at nine to twenty one am when 517 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 3: authorities arrived at her apartment. According to Marianne Faithful, Pamela 518 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 3: called the Count and the Count went to PAMs to Pamela, 519 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 3: and the Count moved Jim's body. 520 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 2: Why would they do that? 521 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 3: Was that move part of a larger cleanup effort on 522 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 3: behalf of the two? Marianne Faithful has claimed that earlier 523 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 3: that evening, Pamela Morrison was snorting the Count's heroin. It 524 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 3: was the type of heroin with the street name cotton candy. 525 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 3: Heroin isn't like cocaine or marijuana. It doesn't have a 526 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 3: signature color. There's black heroin, brown heroin, and there was 527 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 3: cotton candy heroin called such because of its light color. 528 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 3: It was pinkish, nearly white, And because of this, Marianne 529 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 3: Faithful claims that Jim Morrison mistook Pamela Courson's heroin for cocaine, 530 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 3: snorted too much of it, overdosed and died. We know 531 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 3: the Count was at the apartment that morning. Remember the 532 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 3: phone call Pamela Morrison received from her Parisian friends, the 533 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: one that agitated Alan Rene. 534 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 2: After that phone call, Alan. 535 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: Claimed he saw the Count outside on the street and 536 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 3: that he himself let the Count into the apartment to 537 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: see Pam. Later that morning, when the Count returned to 538 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 3: Marianne at the hotel, Marianne claimed he was agitated and 539 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 3: that he beat her. Afterward, he told Marianne to get packed. 540 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 3: He was clearly scared to death, afraid for his life. 541 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 3: Jim Morrison had taken his heroin and died, and now 542 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 3: he and Marianne Faithful needed to leave for Morocco immediately, 543 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: or so goes the story by Marianne Faithful. This story 544 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 3: the story that Jim Morrison mistakenly snorted heroin thinking it 545 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 3: was cocaine and died. If we're to believe Marianne Faithful, 546 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: this story makes far more sense than the idea that 547 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 3: Jim Morrison was just another junkie rock star who overdosed 548 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 3: on smack. But wait, there's yet another story. In Paris, 549 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy one, there was a nightclub that Jim 550 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 3: Morrison hung out at called the Rock. 551 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 2: And Roll Circus. 552 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 3: It was a hotbed for drug use of all kinds, 553 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 3: including heroin. In two thousand and seven, the manager of 554 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 3: that club, Sam Benet, published a book in French only 555 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 3: in which he made the claim that Jim overdosed on 556 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 3: heroin that night at the Rock and Roll Circus, and 557 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 3: that his body was moved out of the club, back 558 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 3: to his apartment and placed in the tug. Conspiracy theorists 559 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 3: love this theory, but I don't. First of all, why 560 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 3: would they take the body all the way back to 561 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 3: Jim's apartment and carefully stage a scene with him in 562 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 3: the tug. Why not just take him out of the 563 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 3: club and leave the body in the street or in 564 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 3: somebody's car, or anywhere. 565 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 2: Really, why go through all the trouble. 566 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 3: Of having to sneak the body through the streets of 567 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 3: Paris into an apartment and then presumably convinced the dead 568 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 3: dude's girlfriend to get behind this fantastic lie with you, 569 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 3: a lie that would clearly complicate her life. What incentive 570 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 3: would Pamela Courson have to support this lie? An even 571 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 3: more interesting question is why was Pamela Coursen behaving so 572 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 3: dishonestly in the hours after the body was discovered. According 573 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 3: to Alan Rene, she was allegedly busy making arrangements to 574 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 3: get her hands on Jim's money back in la She 575 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 3: was hiding papers, burning letters, squirreling away expensive furs and 576 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 3: making plans to have the body quickly cremated, and when 577 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 3: that didn't work, she moved to have the body quickly 578 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 3: buried instead. She didn't want Jim's lawyer involved, so she 579 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 3: settled on dealing with his manager, Bill Siddons, who, once 580 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 3: he was informed in Los Angeles of Jim's death, dropped 581 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 3: everything and flew to Paris. According to John Densmore, the 582 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 3: Doors drummer, Bill Siddons told him that when he arrived 583 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 3: at the scene, he found heroin in the apartment in 584 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 3: a carved wooden box, and that it was his belief 585 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 3: that Jim snorted that heroin by accident and died. When 586 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 3: I look at stories like this, where multiple people are 587 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 3: saying different things, each with their own relationship to the truth, 588 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 3: I look for incentives. What incentives does the person making 589 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 3: the claim have for making that statement. Why would Bill 590 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 3: Siddons lie to John Densmore, the drummer for the band 591 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 3: that he managed, his client, his friend. I can't think 592 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 3: of a reason. 593 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 2: Why. 594 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 3: Why would Alan Rene, Jim Morrison's close friend, lie about 595 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 3: what he saw that morning, about the way Pam was acting. 596 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 3: Seems to me that doing so would make his life 597 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 3: more complicated, more painful. And why would Agnes Varda back 598 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 3: up his lies as well? 599 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 2: I have no answer for that. 600 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 3: Why would the manager of the rock and roll circus 601 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 3: publish a book with wild claims about where and how 602 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 3: Jim Morrison died? 603 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 2: Well? 604 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 3: I could think of a couple of reasons. None of 605 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 3: them speak to the author's credibility. Mary Anne Faithful's comments 606 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 3: strike me as the most credible. She had no incentive 607 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: to lie and no incentive financial or otherwise to say 608 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 3: what she said. She started talking immediately after Jim's death 609 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 3: and later published her depiction of her with the Count 610 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 3: and the Count's involvement with Jim's death in her autobiography. 611 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 2: Mary Anne's comments. 612 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 3: Never elevated or relegated her status in pop culture. They 613 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 3: were just part of her own wild rock and roll story. 614 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 3: In her story that Jim Morrison died by mistakingly snorting 615 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 3: her boyfriend, the Count, Jean de Bretoi's heroin an act 616 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 3: that was then covered up by Pamela Corson and the Count. 617 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 3: That story is the story that's supported by more evidence 618 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 3: than any of the other claims surrounding Jim Morrison's death. 619 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 3: We know who the Count was and what he did 620 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 3: for a living. We know others died from his heroin. 621 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 2: And after Jim died. 622 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 3: After the Count split from Morocco with Mary Anne, they 623 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 3: soon broke up and then his life spiraled out of control. 624 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 3: He died in nineteen seventy two. 625 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 2: Of a heroin overdose. 626 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 3: Some who were close with him believed that he committed 627 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 3: suicide over how he felt about the deaths that he caused, 628 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 3: most notably the deaths of Janis Joplin and Jim Morrison. 629 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 3: And in nineteen seventy four, Pamela Corson also died of 630 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 3: a heroin overdose, but not before telling many many different 631 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 3: versions to friends about what happened the night that Jim 632 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 3: Morrison died. Pamela Courson was the last person alive who 633 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 3: truly knew how Jim Morrison passed away, a death at 634 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 3: just the age of twenty seven that, no matter the cause, 635 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 3: was most definitely a disgrace. I'm Jake Brennan and this 636 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 3: is Disgraceland. All right, guys, thanks for checking out this 637 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 3: episode of Disgraceland. 638 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 2: Listen. Question of the week. 639 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 3: This week's super simple, how do you think Jim Morrison died? 640 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 3: Was it heart failure, as officials have said. Was it 641 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 3: a heroin overdose by his own accord because he was 642 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 3: a junkie, or was it heroin overdose by mistake? 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