1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobelt 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome to the show. We're 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: on every day from one until four o'clock and every day. 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: As soon as the show's over, you may say I 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: missed it. I was doing something stupid like working. Well 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: that's what the podcast is for John Cobelt's show on 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: demand and then you could hear whatever you missed. We 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: always tell you to follow us on social media at 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Radio. We are only three followers away from 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: hitting thirty thousand. Three of you. That's all we need. 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: So three of you do something and then we'll hit 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 1: thirty thousand. And it makes Eric really happy. I don't 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: know why, but you know, everybody has to live for something. Now. 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: Michael Munks, who is KFI News. He covered today the 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: installation of the new chief executive of the disastrous, failing 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority. The woman who ran the 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: place is out. She's resigned under a lot of pressure, 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: and the new person is named Jita git O'Neil. Gita O'Neill, 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: who has been an assistant LA City Attorney. Well, so, 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,279 Speaker 1: there was a whole committee of clowns that voted today. 21 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, the way you're characterizing the organization 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: is is not how I heard it describe itself earlier 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: this morning when I was at this board meeting. You know, 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: the LA Homeless Services Authority LASA. They have a board 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: that is governed by appointees from the city and the county. 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: This board meets today and it was incidentally the last 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: day for outgoing CEO of Alicia Adams Kellum and the 28 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: approved first day for the woman you just mentioned, Git O'Neil, 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: whill be coming from City Hall to take over this 30 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: on a twelve month interim basis. Just to get the 31 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: main headline out, I know that you've been critical of 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: Alicia Adams Kellum's salary of two one hundred and thirty 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: thousand dollars to lead this organization. O'Neil is on a 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: monthly basis nearly thirty one thousand dollars per month, so 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: she will make less than Callum, but her salary will 36 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: be about three hundred and seventy dollars. 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: Three hundred and seventy and Adams Callum made thirty four 38 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: to thirty. It's not that much of a savings there 39 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: not that much of a savings. 40 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 2: In fact, as Velicia Adams Kellum, who attended this meeting 41 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: as her final meeting, gave her final remark, she was 42 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: basically saying that LASA is a better organization now than 43 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: before she arrived. 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: We addressed audit findings directly, We strengthened our rehousing efforts 45 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: and took on tough shoos with courage and clarity. In 46 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 3: doing so, we've helped LASSA become more agile, more transparent, 47 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: what does that mean? And responsive? Real lasting change takes time, 48 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 3: especially when confronting issues that have persisted for decades. 49 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm incredibly dear. 50 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: Hows of what we've accomplished at LASA and for the 51 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: momentum the agency continues to build. 52 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: The reason I wanted you to hear that in its 53 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: entire Dame, Oh, I'm just glad it is because she 54 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: mentioned some things that we've talked about a lot on 55 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: the audits that have found the misappropriation or the misaccounting 56 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 2: of about two billion dollars. 57 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: Have they ever found an accounting for the two billion dollars? Yet? 58 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: There's no good documentation for a lot of money that 59 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: went through LASA to those subcontracting homeless organizations. 60 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Do you know what kind of what an enormous number? 61 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: That is two billions a huge And it's not a 62 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: number that we made up in the press. It's not 63 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: a number that an investigative reporter dug up. This was 64 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: an audit ordered by federal judge right and a separate 65 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: audit ordered by the county and the city. 66 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: They found similar problems. And she's never explained where the 67 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: money went, if it did any good, right, and she 68 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they never found it, So what she said 69 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: there was never never said, I'm sorry, I lost track 70 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: of all this. She says. 71 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: We addressed it head on, and I tell you this 72 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: is why I told you before we went on air. 73 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: This was such a strange meeting to observe because the 74 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: way loss that talks about itself, including the board members, 75 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: which includes La Mayor Karen Bass, it's completely different than 76 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 2: I think the actual conversation that's taking place outside. 77 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: I'm trying to imagine, you know, if there was like 78 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: like I don't know, when there's like two hundred dollars 79 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: missing in our checking account, my wife wants an all 80 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: day investigation, yeah, to know, like, well, who took it? 81 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: Out of the account and what did you spend it on? Right, 82 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: That's how she deals with the kids. And I'm thinking 83 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: two billion dollars and it seems no one is interested. No, 84 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: the judge is certainly interested. No, the judge is no. 85 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: Here's what came up. Because you're gonna hear I call 86 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 1: this cobalt kibble. As I was listening to this meeting, 87 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: I knew that there were sound bites that I needed 88 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: to cut just. 89 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: For you to listen to. But I know that your 90 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: audience will enjoy as well. Mayer Bass is on this board. 91 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: Keep in mind they have a close relationship. She and 92 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: Felicia Adams Kellum. She credits Adams Kellum as the architect 93 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: of the Inside Safe program. And what the mayor said 94 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: today was that basically the expectations for Kellum were too high. 95 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 4: You were expected to have a magic wand you were 96 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: expected to solve a problem that has been around for 97 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 4: four decades that I certainly recall, and you didn't do that. 98 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 4: You didn't do that in a couple of years, and 99 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: so the attacks began. 100 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: So she was attacked unfairly. Basically, this problem has not 101 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: been around at this level for four decades. That's a 102 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: load of crap, and what the mayor going on twenty 103 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: seventeen it got exactly. I don't think we discussed homelessness 104 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: at all t twenty seventeen, and then we did a 105 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: couple of on site shows. It was that year. That 106 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: was after a few years of Garcetti and his incompetence 107 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: in mismanagement. 108 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: We talked just I think last week when the new 109 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: homeless numbers came out last Monday, that yeah, there were 110 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: fifty eight thousand documented homeless people in La County and 111 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: that exploded in twenty twenty three all the way to 112 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: seventy five thousand, and it's now starting to trickle down 113 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: a little bit. That's how they're able to say our 114 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: policies are working gets. 115 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: Because they're dying. It matches the number of people who 116 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: die every year on the street. 117 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: Mayor Bass says that what really hurt adams Kellum was 118 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: an ideological battle about how homelessness should be addressed. 119 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 4: I think that it was unfortunate because I think one 120 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: of the underlying issues that you had to face that 121 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: you got caught up in is there's an ideological battle 122 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 4: about how to solve homelessness. There is a status quo 123 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: that has been going about homelessness for a number of years, 124 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 4: and you came in and you started to disrupt the system, 125 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 4: and there were a lot of people that were not 126 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: happy about that disruption. 127 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: What is she talking about? 128 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: Disruption is one of those buzzwords that are often used 129 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: in like startups and entrepreneurs, and our product is disrupting 130 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: the industry. It doesn't really mean anything. 131 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: Usually smart issues. Then you said it. 132 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: But speaking of that, speaking of that, because I got 133 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: these two, I got two more from Mayerbass talking about 134 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: Flicia Adams Kellum. 135 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: She says that Kellum was mischaracterized. 136 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 4: And I feel that you were targeted and charged with 137 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: all sorts of things that later came out to be 138 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: absolutely untrue. But once that genie is out of the bottle, 139 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: nobody goes and puts it back, and it harmed your reputation. 140 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 4: And unfortunately, that is what happens to leaders a lot 141 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 4: of times when they choose to be disruptive of a system. 142 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: So I think what she means there, go ahead, Well, 143 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: there's the feelings of the organization that are pretty well documented. Yeah, 144 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: homelessness has gone up primarily over the past five or 145 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: six years. Yeah, starting to drop a little bit. Based 146 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: on the numbers from thisization, they significantly high tye seconds 147 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: we higher. But there was also that instance of a 148 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: two million dollar contract awarded to an agency operated by 149 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: Licia Adams Kellum's husband. And whether she had a knee 150 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: involvement in signing off on that. 151 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: Well, because she denied that she signed off on it 152 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: until they found her signature on the contracts. 153 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: Yes, And so I think that is what the mayor 154 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: must have been talking about there. And now to get 155 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: to us guys in the media, this is what the 156 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: mayor says, You have press that have. 157 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 4: No interest in reporting accurately and talking about what is 158 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 4: actually going on. And so those press that maligned you 159 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 4: unfortunately inappropriately, are not going to do a headline correcting 160 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: what was wrong. 161 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: So that was basically the theme of this board, meaning, 162 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: as they said, goodbye, an organization, some weird cult that 163 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 2: has lost that has not properly accounted for us the 164 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: way to phrase it, not properly accounted for billions, uh huh, 165 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 2: that has barely scratched the surface on eliminating street homelessness 166 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles in Los Angeles County. Yeah, and an 167 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 2: organization that has now lost its co governance. The county 168 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: Board of Supervisors has left the organization and taken hundreds 169 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: of millions of dollars with it. 170 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: Why did the county pull out entirely and all their money? 171 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: If Adams Callum was doing such a bang up job. 172 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: That's what shocked me about this meeting today is that 173 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: there was no apology. There was no there was no 174 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: recognition of any of the shortcomings. That was we are 175 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: doing a good job. We're just not getting credit for it. 176 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: That's insanity. And the mayor so there really is like 177 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: some weird cult. The mayor basically said to Adam's Callum, like, 178 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: this has been a hard job for you. You've taken 179 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: a lot of hits and it's going to be hard 180 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 2: for you in the future because you were brave enough 181 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: to take this role. 182 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: And now your reputation has probably been harmed. Uh, yeah, 183 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: it should be shattered. She shouldn't get a job in 184 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: government for the rest of her life. She has to 185 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: explain where the two billion went. So is Karen Bass. 186 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: Since Karen Bass is acting like her a vouching for 187 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: her character and integrity, Bass has got explain this. It's 188 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: under her watch. She's part of the this this commission. 189 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: Here, the mayor says that she and Wendy Gruhle, who 190 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: used to be the city controller and ran for mayor 191 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 2: and is was until today the chair of this board. 192 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: They switched that governance around. It wasn't ntil today the 193 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: chair of this loss of board. 194 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: Bass and Gruel actually went to war over Velish adams 195 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: Kellum because Bass wanted Velisha Adams Kellms to stay at 196 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: city Hall and Grule really wanted her to take over 197 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: the position at LASSA. And they talked about that today, 198 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: about how how talented she is and how coveted she 199 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: was at the time. 200 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: Did anybody push back, No one, nobody. No, it was 201 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: unanimous praise, unanimous praise for somebody who oversaw two billion 202 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: dollars evaporating into thin air and nobody can explain it, 203 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: and nobody's even trying to. Nobody's looking for the money, 204 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: and the federal investigation continues. That's astounding. Yeah, the federal 205 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: investigation from judging the court, there's there's there's a lawsuit 206 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: that the court is overseeing and that I should I don't, No, 207 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to see investigation. But the court is 208 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: certainly monitoring, right, I mean, it seems like there ought 209 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: to be a federal investigation. And remember, don't. 210 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: Forget that when Bill Saley took over his US attorney 211 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: he did start a little organization. 212 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: He said, if there's any federal money involved in the organization, 213 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: we haven't. 214 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: Heard anything from now that you, but I'm sure he's 215 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: not resting on his laurels. All right, very good, You 216 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: got me off upset. I'm going to sage later at 217 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: the place if you want to come over here. You know, 218 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: I want to see you ver running around with your shage. 219 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: She's going to sage tonight too, I told her to. 220 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a full moon. 221 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: Yes, it's a new mode, a new moon. 222 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 5: Oh, a new mood. Sorry, that's okay, okay, thank you 223 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 5: for clarifying. 224 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: Are you going to run around naked out in the fielding? 225 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: There's some words of positivity and cleaning out the bad energy. 226 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: You could use it in Brentwood. I got you know something, 227 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: if if Eric, if you start smudging and waving burning 228 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: stage in the air, that I'm done here. Not a chance. 229 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: That's I'm leaving the country. 230 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 231 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 6: six forty. 232 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: We just had Michael Monks on. He had covered a 233 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: press event today. I guess reporters weren't allowed to say anything. 234 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: This was the uh well, actually this was the loss 235 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: of commission voting seven to one to put in a 236 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: new temporary chief Executive of LASA, the LA Homeless Services Authority, 237 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: Jita O'Neil. This replaces the incredibly overwhelmingly and competent Valicia 238 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: Adams Kellen. And rather than go through a long winded indictment, 239 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: there's only one thing you need to know. Federal Judge 240 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: David Carter asked an accounting firm to do an audit 241 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: of where the money went, and they can't account for 242 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: two billion dollars. Two billion, Now, that is an astonishing 243 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: amount of money, really truly is. And it's just shrugged 244 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: off like, oh well, hey, Valicia Adams Kellum never took 245 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: any responsibility, never even said yeah, it disappeared, and I 246 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: was in charge, and I don't know where it is 247 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: and I don't know if it did any good but 248 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: my fault. I mean, how many employees had to watch 249 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: that money pass through their hands? How many employees now 250 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: it could be buried in Karen Bass's backyard. For all 251 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: we know, it could be buried in Valicia adams kellum backyard. 252 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: We don't know where it is. Nobody wrote down all 253 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: the checks, all the direct deposits. There aren't receipts for anything. 254 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: What the hell? That is absolutely, positively the most outrageous thing. 255 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: And then it then and then Bass starts complaining about 256 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: the media, that the media is throwing out phony stories 257 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: and tarnishing the reputation of Valici Adams Kellen. It is 258 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: the opposite. The media never pressed hard enough on where 259 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: the money went. We have been covering this story now 260 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: for eight years. It got really bad around twenty seventeen 261 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: when Garcetti was the mayor. He was the original destructive loser. 262 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: And twenty seventeen was an important year because that's when 263 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: it got so bad. They put up two propositions on 264 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: the ballot. One was a county proposition, one was a 265 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: city proposition. It was and hhh, and that was to 266 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: raise billions of dollars. And that those billions of dollars 267 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: have added up over the last eight years and nothing's 268 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: gotten better. And then the big whopper that Bass told, 269 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: the big whopper she spoke to Valisia Adams Callum directly 270 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: saying that you were asked to wave a magic wand 271 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: to solve a problem that's been going on for decades. No, 272 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: I have the numbers here. All you have to do. 273 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: There's something called la almanac dot com and it has 274 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: a list of the homeless population counts in Los Angeles 275 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: County done by LASA. This is their numbers for the 276 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: last twenty years. I don't think they even were counting 277 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: homeless people before two thousand and five. Let me take 278 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: you back to as recently as twenty eleven. Do you 279 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: know how many homeless people there were in the city 280 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles about on the streets? On the streets 281 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: in the city, thirteen thousand, thirteen thousand. It's doubled since then. 282 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: It's about twenty six thousand. In the county. It was again, 283 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: this is twenty eleven. It was twenty eight thousand, it 284 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: is now forty seven thousand. These are street people. I'm 285 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: not going to get into the sheltered. That's a different category. 286 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: But I'm talking about the people that terrify us the most. 287 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: Forty seven thousand people in the county, twenty six thousand 288 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: in the city, and the numbers in twenty eleven or 289 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: twenty eight thousand in the county and thirteen thousand in 290 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: the city. So these are huge increases, big time increases. 291 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: And because if you believe they're numbers, it's down slightly 292 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: from twenty twenty four or twenty twenty three, it's still 293 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: oh much much higher than it used to be, much higher. 294 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: In fact, it's higher than it was in twenty nineteen. 295 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: In all categories. It's higher than it was just six 296 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: years ago. And I cannot stand. I cannot stand how 297 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: the media every headline, oh, just down, homelessness down, by 298 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: the way, Why would you trust an organization that lost 299 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: two billion dollars unaccounted for? Why would you trust them 300 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: when they do an a do account of homeless people? 301 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: Why would you assume that the number is accurate at 302 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: some point? Isn't LASA without any credibility at all about anything? 303 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: I mean, certainly the county supervisors thought so, because they 304 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: pulled out in the organization. Karen Pass is the last 305 00:17:52,880 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: defender of a hopelessly corrupt, hopelessly incompetent, overwhelmed agency run 306 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: by an absolute loser of a woman, Valicia Adams Kellum, 307 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: who had the nerve to give two million dollars to 308 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: her husband's nonprofit, and then deny she did it until 309 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: a news organization found the contract with her signature on it, 310 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: and then she still denied that she did it, claiming, well, 311 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: I must have not been looking when I signed that. 312 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: I guess somebody pushed that in front of me. It's like, 313 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: get out. Now, here's a plane ticket, a bus ticket. 314 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: Let's put her on SpaceX and shoot her out of 315 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: orbit out. I'm honest to god, somebody, somebody on the 316 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: news tonight. Somebody just go back, go back fifteen years, 317 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: go look at the number twenty eleven county city sheltered, unsheltered. 318 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: You look at those numbers, and you tell me how 319 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: Valicia Adams, Kellen Kellum, and Karen Bass can claim credit 320 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: for anything. And the lead story ought to be still 321 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: after misappropriating, lose track of wasting, stealing, you choose two 322 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: billion dollars. Now, LASA has a new executives stand cannot 323 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: stand the way the media covers things. With a few exceptions, 324 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: but for the most part, it is atrocious here, absolutely 325 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: atrocious that that's our money being stolen. They're not helping anybody. 326 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: He's just got all these people dying in the streets, 327 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: and yes, almost all of them are drug addicts and 328 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: mental patients, which is a whole nother thing we're gonna 329 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: get to you later in the show, because Trumps issued 330 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: an executive order about all the drug addicts and the 331 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: mental patients and he wants them all off the street 332 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: in all cities and in all states. All right, when 333 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: we come back, as long as we're on the nonprofits, 334 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to Sue Pasco. She's with a news 335 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: organization called Circling the News out of the Palisades, And 336 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: we'll explain all the details when we come back. But 337 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: it's it's one hundred million dollars that was donated in 338 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: that for that fire aid concert. Money is supposed to 339 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: go to Alta, Dina and Palisades fire victims and homeowners. 340 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: Well where did the money go? Well, Sue Pasco's trying 341 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: to figure it out. We'll have her on next. 342 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobbel's on demand from KFI AM 343 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 6: six forty. 344 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: Or on every day one until four o'clock, as you know, 345 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: and then every day after four o'clock you got a podcast. 346 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Show on demand, so if you miss anything 347 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: during the program, you can catch up later on the podcast. 348 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: Everything is brought to you on the iHeartRadio app. Now, 349 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: one of the big stories that's been bubbling for a 350 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: little while is the money that was raised from the 351 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: Fire Aid concert. And the fire Aid concert was for 352 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: the victims of the Altaden and Palisades fire, and a 353 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: lot of people thought that the money was going to 354 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: go directly to the victims. Well, instead it went to 355 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: a large number of nonprofits. Now and the whole iHeart 356 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: chain promoted the broadcast of the concert. We promoted the 357 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: event just up front. We did not collect any of 358 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: the money or distribute any of the money. We were 359 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: just a venue for publicizing the concert, and that was 360 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: as far as our involvement goes. But now you have 361 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: a Congressman, Kevin Kylie up in Northern California, who's been 362 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: on our show many times, wants to know where the 363 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: funds went, how did they get distributed, who did it 364 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: go to. One of the journalists who've been on top 365 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: of this story has been Sue Pasco, one time a 366 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: journalist on the West Side out of the Palisades, and 367 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: she's got a website called circling the news, and we're 368 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: going to talk to Sue because she'll have more detail 369 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: than almost anybody as to what happened. Sue Pasco, are 370 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: you there. 371 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 7: I am. Thank you for having me and helping to 372 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 7: spread the word about what I think is just a 373 00:21:59,119 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 7: traves state. 374 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: How much money total was raised by the fire aid concerts. 375 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 7: Supposedly more than one hundred million, and we don't even 376 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 7: know if it's more than that, because one would assume 377 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 7: that they put it in an account someplace and it's 378 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 7: drying interest. But the Fire Aid Committee, I guess that's 379 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 7: the best way to put them, has doled out about 380 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 7: seventy five million so far, which means there's only about 381 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 7: twenty five million left. And the most interesting thing, this 382 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 7: was marketed for victims now survivors of the fire, and 383 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 7: it hasn't gone to gone to individuals. It's gone to nonprofits. 384 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 7: And I didn't realize that until a reader sent in 385 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 7: a query in may Or. I guess it was in April, 386 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 7: he said. The query in he said, how do I 387 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 7: apply for those fire aid funds? I thought, you know, 388 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 7: that's a really good question. So I reached out to 389 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 7: the Annenberg because they're the ones overseeing supposedly, who's getting 390 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 7: the Grantsburg data? Yes, and no one got back to me. 391 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 7: So I called, I emailed, and finally someone got back 392 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 7: to me and said, well, maybe who you should talk 393 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 7: to is our media spokesperson, Chris Wallace. So then I 394 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 7: spoke to Chris. But after basically, none of the money 395 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 7: is going to individuals, it's going to nonprofits. And they 396 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 7: told me I could see the nonprofits online, which I 397 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 7: went to the fire Aid website and started looking at 398 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 7: the nonprofits and so one of the first I saw 399 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 7: was Saint Joseph the People's Concern. I'm actually helped with 400 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 7: the Homeless task Force in the Palisades, So I thought, 401 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 7: why are these they're basically homeless task Force. Why is 402 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 7: money going to help the people on the transient basically? 403 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 7: And then I started looking at the other nonprofits that 404 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 7: were listed, like LA's Home for Native People Pathways LA, 405 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 7: which is based in downtown and works to make sure 406 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 7: that children are most vulnerable communities have access to high 407 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 7: quality and affordable childcare services, or Homegrown, whose mission is 408 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 7: to build a more inclusive childcare system that values and 409 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 7: supports home based childcare. I really didn't know how any 410 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 7: of this supported. 411 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: Fuire victims in the Palisades and Altadena, correct. 412 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 7: But I thought, well, you know what, maybe this is 413 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 7: really helping the Altadena area. So I went back to 414 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 7: the Edinburgh Committee and I sort of said, can you 415 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 7: send me a list of the nonprofits that have been 416 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 7: helped in Pacific Palisades from this? And I got a 417 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 7: shortlist of about three that supposedly were helping fire victims 418 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 7: in the Palisades. But I started talking to people in 419 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 7: the Palisades and no one had actually seen individual support. 420 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 7: And the need is enormous because most people don't realize 421 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 7: insurance is not paying. There's a huge gap between one 422 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 7: insurance will pay to rebuild at what it costs, and 423 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 7: people don't have the money to rebuild. So any kind 424 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 7: of money like this would be very helpful. 425 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah. There were a lot of heavy 426 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: hitters involved in this. The La Clippers owner Steve Balmer, 427 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: you had the Annenberg Foundation, which is an enormous foundation 428 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: here in LA and then you had the stars involved. 429 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: It was at the Kia Forum, the Intuit Dome, Billie Eilish, 430 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: Rod Stewart, Lady Gaga Sting, Stevie Wonder, Nirvana, Stevie Nicks 431 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: a huge success, one hundred million raised, and then all 432 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: the information about what happened went dead and people started saying, well, 433 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: where did the money go? And I didn't get the money, 434 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: and so it goes to these nonprofits. According to your research, 435 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: do the nonprofits explain where the money went after they 436 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: got funded? Do they have a list of homeowners residents 437 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: who got some kind of grant? 438 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 7: You think? Would you? No, it's confidentiality. We can't tell 439 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 7: you the person that may have gotten the money. To me, 440 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 7: now this becomes a much I'm angry at the nonprofits 441 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 7: for taking the money, and some of them really are sketch. 442 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 7: I'm not going to say which ones I think are sketched, 443 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 7: but there are some that are really sketched, and some 444 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 7: that just got their nonprofit by going through other nonprofits 445 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 7: and don't even have their own nonprofit number and got money, 446 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 7: which is a whole other story. But who came up 447 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 7: with the system. I think whoever is on top needs 448 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 7: to be called out, and you would like to know 449 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 7: who's on top. But I've asked, and I've been told, 450 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 7: we're not going going to go into that, right now 451 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 7: now on top, because making the decision that nonprofit should 452 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 7: get the money. 453 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: Would that be somebody idea? Would it be somebody at 454 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: the Aninberg Foundation. I mean they must have a CEO. 455 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 7: Well, it's supposed that the Annenberg is just a sort 456 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 7: of a see through pass through. Yeah, past here, that's 457 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 7: what it is. No, someone had to be responsible for 458 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 7: setting this up, for saying we need a committee to 459 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 7: decide on which nonprofits get it. And from what I 460 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 7: can tell, if you have a nonprofit and he would 461 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 7: set evacuation. They were throwing out money like a drunken 462 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 7: sailor and a port. I mean they were just going 463 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 7: crazy throwing the money out. So who came up with 464 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 7: this scheme? And why are they not being held accountable 465 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 7: for giving all this money to nonprofits? I almost don't 466 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 7: fault the nonprofits, is whoever came up with the system. 467 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: Congressman Kevin kylie I mentioned he's asking the Attorney General, 468 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: Pam Bondi, to investigate this. He said on X we've 469 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: learned that of the one hundred million raised, none actually 470 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: went to LA fire victims, went to nonprofits, many that 471 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with fire relief. I've asked Attorney 472 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: General BONDI to open an investigation. I mean, since he 473 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: has gone public with this threat, does anybody come forward 474 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: and say, okay, okay, calm down, calm down, We're going 475 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: to explain here where the money went. 476 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 7: No. No, oh, And you might like this because our 477 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 7: governor Newsom has I looked up how Volunteers, which is 478 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 7: actually a nonprofit out of the state governor's office, and 479 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 7: they got fire aid funds. And once that was reported, 480 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 7: Spencer Pratt actually did it on a little Instagram thing 481 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 7: about how Heal Volunteers, a California governor nonprofit got it. 482 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 7: It was taken off the website. So the question becomes, 483 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 7: did they take it off? Did they give the money back? 484 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 7: I don't know. 485 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: This is going to require a lot of investigation. Are 486 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: the are other news outlets interested in this story? 487 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 7: I will say that I have to give a huge 488 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 7: shout out to Marla Tellez on Fox because she had 489 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 7: me on and it sort of opened it up for 490 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 7: a lot of people to say, what's going on here? 491 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 7: She had the courage to put me on. Not a 492 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 7: lot of media sources were that interested in I reached 493 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 7: out to some, and I don't know why. They weren't 494 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 7: interested in where the money was going. 495 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: All right, Well, if you find out more more details, 496 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: something concrete, you can come on with us. 497 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 7: Okay, I would be happy to because the victims deserve 498 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 7: the money. 499 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what was promised. And you know, I am 500 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: in general highly suspicious of the entire nonprofit industry based 501 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: on a lot of news that we've been covered over 502 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: the last few years. Whether it's homelessness or climate change. 503 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who end up well, 504 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: they're parasites. And it wouldn't surprise me most of. 505 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 7: The executives are getting six figure salaries. This is really 506 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 7: I found that really interesting. 507 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's true. All right. Sus Pasco from Circlingthnews 508 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: dot com. Thank you for coming on with us. 509 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 7: Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. 510 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: All right. More coming up John Cobelt Show caf I 511 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: Am six forty. 512 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six. 513 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: Forty John Cobelt Show, and the Moistline is going to 514 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: be played this afternoon at three o'clock. So you're too 515 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: late for today's Moistline. However, you can call in for 516 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: next week eight seven seven Moist eighty six. You can 517 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: call in now for next week eight seven seven Moist 518 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: eighty six or the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. 519 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: Right after two o'clock. In Debra's News, We're gonna have 520 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: Royal Oaks, ABC News Legal Analyst. You may have heard 521 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: Gallaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's longtime friend. They led her out 522 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: of jail to talk to the Deputy Attorney General Todd 523 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: Blanche and the whole world is speculating, is she spilling 524 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: lots of dirty secrets on Epstein and Epstein's clients in 525 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: exchange for maybe getting her sentenced reduced or eliminated. They 526 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: can do that separately. The Supreme Court maybe hearing part 527 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: of Glene Maxwell's case because her lawyers claim the conviction 528 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: itself was invalid because the federal prosecutors had made a 529 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: non prosecution agreement with Epstein all the way back to 530 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven when he was first charged and 531 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: jailed for his shedanigans. All the details we'll talk about 532 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: with the Royal Oaks coming up in just a few minutes. 533 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: Do you remember in Alaska a couple years ago there 534 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: was a single engine plane crashed shortly after takeoff in 535 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: the mountains. Yes, I remember that. Only the pilot was 536 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: on board and he died. His name's Eugene Peltola. He 537 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: was the husband of a former Congresswoman Mary Peltola. They 538 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: have released all the details on why the plane crashed. 539 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: It was overloaded with moose meat and it had antlers 540 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: that they that they connected to the right wing and 541 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: that provided too much drag on the plane. They attached 542 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: the antlers to the wing. The overweight airplane and the 543 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: added drag and lateral weight imbalance caused by the antlers 544 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: resulted in the plane having insufficient power. So I know 545 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: you're you're very worried about the plane crashes. Make sure 546 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: you know how much moose meats aboard. So okay, excuse me, sir, 547 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Did you weigh your 548 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: moose meat. Peltola had taken a group of hunters and 549 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: their equipment from to an airstrip and I one day 550 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: before the crash, they bagged a moose. So they murdered 551 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: a moose and they wanted Peltola to transport the meat 552 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: in his plane. They weren't on board the plane. It's like, hey, 553 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: could you take the meat back? Home. He did not 554 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: weigh the moose meat, and so the plane was carrying 555 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen more pounds of cargo, then was 556 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: allowed on takeoff, also carrying antlers on the wing. This 557 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 1: is commonplace in Alaska, but it requires formal approval from 558 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: the FAA. They did not get that. I guess you 559 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: have to do some kind of measurement on that as well. 560 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:15,959 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have Okay, this is just well. 561 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: Plus you have to feel bad for the moose. Well, 562 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: he gets chopped up into slabs of me he brings 563 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: down a plane right, only you would find Hey, this 564 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: made the New York Times today. I mean, it's funny. 565 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: Oh it's funny. We got it. We got a dead man. 566 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: We have a dead moose. But you're laughing. You have 567 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 1: been corrupted. I have been corrupted yet. And now his wife, 568 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: the former congresswoman, is filing a lawsuit that he was 569 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: forced to fly too many hours with too little rest, 570 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: to fly under dangerous conditions and had to carry the 571 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: moose antwich on. Oh yes, at the headlines on the 572 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: headline playing in Alaska crash overloaded with moose meat and antlers. Okay, 573 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: when we come back, Royal Oaks, ABC News Legal analyst, 574 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: and he's going to explain. Uh, well, we'll ask him 575 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: about what today's rucus was about. Because Glene Maxwell met 576 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: with Todd Blanche. Is there anything that she could say 577 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: at this point that would reduce her sentence? And why 578 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: would anybody believe her? She's not exactly the most credible 579 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: woman in the world. Also, there's a case which is 580 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: headed to the Supreme Court regarding her conviction because the 581 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: prosecutors had agreed back in two thousand and seven with 582 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: Epstein that they would No. I guess nobody was supposed 583 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: to be prosecuted after seven I don't know. Well, that's 584 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: why Royal Oaks is coming out, because you're. 585 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 5: Not going to ask him about antlers and moose meat 586 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 5: though no, I thought that's what you were going to No, 587 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 5: because maybe you get a better reaction from him than me. 588 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: We're going to talk with the Royal Oaks next. 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