1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Ron and an Ian. There's something about hot rods. I 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: don't know what it is, and it could be a 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: hot road of any shape, size or color. It doesn't matter. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: If there's something about not driving something off the showroom 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: floor that does something to people, the Car Doctor, we 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: could get the solenoid feed wire down at the starter 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: wire in a headlight. If we can light the headlight 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: when we turn the key, then yeah, the starter has power, 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: but it's not engaging. Welcome to the radio home of 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, since this is where 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage orders 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: at eight five, five six and now is running. I 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: thought I could tell you I have no different stories 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: today that would just you know, you'd sit there and 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: you'd say it can't be real, Like how do you 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: start this radio show? Every week? I think to myself, 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: and and what is it that I'm going to say? 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: You know you And the truth is, I've been I've 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: been goofing off today, right I have not thought about 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: the week in the shop or anything automotive until about 24 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: forty five seconds ago. And I did that on purpose 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: because I want to jump up on my feet and 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: shout from the mountaintops for all the things that I 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: saw this week. And I was trying to be on 28 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: emotional about it, but you can't be. And here's why. 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: I think. If you're traveling through New Jersey and I 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: thought of, how do I do this? Do I do 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: I do like a shock jock thing? Do I sound dramatic? 32 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: Do I? I'll say it like this. If you're traveling 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: through New Jersey and you're on any one of the 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: major arteries and you're next to a car that has 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: New Jersey plates, Soner, you're somewhere out of state and 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: you're traveling next to a car with Jersey plates, and 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: you look over and then icle is inspected as a 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: valid in New Jersey inspection sticker on it. Don't believe 39 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: it because chances are it may not be valid. And 40 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: here's why we had a customer at the shop in 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: the last three weeks. I think I don't remember if 42 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: I told you this story, but I'll start the story here. 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: Dodge Challenger. This father helped his son by the first car. 44 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: Nice young kid. He wasn't handed the car. The kid 45 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: worked to put up some of the money. The father 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: helped him the rest of the way. A real nice 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: bonding moment. Right. They went out and they bought a 48 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: Dodge Challenger with a HEMI in it. And they purchased 49 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: it from a used car dealer in Central Jersey and 50 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: brought it up back to North Jersey where they live, 51 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: and they ended up on my doorstep. The father wanted 52 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: it looked over. It seemed like a clean car. It 53 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of miles on it, at sixty 54 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: miles on it, and they just, you know, what does 55 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: it need? What sort of service would it would it take? 56 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: And and things like that. We looked it over. Now 57 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: a blind man with two seeing eyed dogs in a 58 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: cane would be able to tell that the catalytic converters 59 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: of the Unified they were. I heard it when it 60 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: pulled in and had an exhaust leak, and you knew 61 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: something was up with the exhaust system because it's a Challenger. 62 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: You're thinking, well, you know, everybody wants to make a 63 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: hot rod go faster. Okay, what did they do? And 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: it did the stupidest thing in the world. They gutted 65 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: the cats. They cut the pipes, pulled the material out 66 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: of the cat, welded it back together that it looked 67 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: like somebody using their feet not their hands, and you know, 68 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: not watching what they were doing. Welded back together very poor. 69 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: And then they put oxygen sensor extenders on the catalytic 70 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: convergs where the O two's come in to help delay 71 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: the action of the O two to give the computer 72 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: a false sense that it was still working. They modified 73 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: the emission controls. Modified federal violation of emission control tampering. Right, 74 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: I believe um six months in prison is a potential 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: ten dollar fine, all kinds of crazy numbers and penalties. 76 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: I explained it to the customer. The customer happened to 77 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: be involved with the law firm, Thank god for him. 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: He went back and forth, back and forth. The dealership's 79 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: answer was, Hey, if you can take it and get 80 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: it to fail at New Jersey inspection, we'll fix the car. 81 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: That was the that was the the carryout, And I went, 82 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: are you kidding? He took the car. He had his 83 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: son take the car down to Paramus, New Jersey on 84 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: Century Road. To the motor vehicle inspection station. The kid 85 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: got out of the car told the inspector, Hey, this 86 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: car is going to fail and here's why, and I 87 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: want you to look at the catalytic converters. The catalytic 88 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: converters have been tampered with and the system has been modified, 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: and it's going to fail. He was upfront and honest. 90 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: He was looking for that failure sticker so he could 91 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: get his car fixed. The car passed flying colors. They 92 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: looked under the car, they didn't see anything. Trained state employees, right, 93 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: factory trained by the state. Hey, what a great job. Right. 94 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: That's why I say New Jersey, the unsafest state in 95 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: the Union, got a sticker and left. Now he goes 96 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: a around. Then nobody wants to look at this car, 97 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: and nobody wants to help him resolved, he called me. 98 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: I gave him the phone number of somebody I know, 99 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: A D. E. P. And trenton The phone number I'm 100 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: not supposed to hand out, but I handed it anyway. 101 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: And I don't care, all right, because I'm thinking about 102 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: the time the state audit car came in and they 103 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: broke my chops over the directional ball that I didn't 104 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: see one was working, one wasn't and find me five. 105 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: And it's not paid back. It's called let's play let's 106 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: play fair. Let's keep the table even, all right. And 107 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: by the way, if the State of New Jersey wants 108 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: to come and talk to me, come talk to me, 109 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: because I took videos of this a mission control system 110 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 1: and I've got it locked up in the Google cloud. 111 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: I don't think you're getting to it. DP did the 112 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: right thing. D E P knew the dealer. They said, yeah, 113 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: this guy, he's a problem. D E P called the dealer. 114 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: The dealer called the customer. They said, bring it down, 115 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: we'll fix it. The customer was very smart. He said, no, 116 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: you know what, you're gonna take the car back and 117 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: give me my money back because I don't want the car. 118 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: But look at the drama, right, look at the blatant 119 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: out in your face, obvious failure and fault. You know, 120 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: it's it's supposed to be a level playing field. And 121 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: it's this kind of thing that makes dealerships look bad, 122 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: that makes repair shops look bad for the guys that 123 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: are trying to play the game straight, because it's not 124 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: a game, it's business. Sell a good car, fix a 125 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: good car, do the job right. State of New Jersey 126 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: can't even get it right. They can't even get inspectors 127 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: at the state lanes to fail vehicles on a consistent 128 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: regular basis. It would be, you know, this is that 129 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: proverbial car that would pull in that in the old 130 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: days if it had a cracked windshield on it, something 131 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: that blatant and obvious, that they would still pass it. 132 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: Cracked windshield and all, of course, cracked wind shields don't 133 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: fail inspection anymore in New Jersey. As a matter of fact, 134 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: you don't even in a windshield in New Jersey to 135 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: avoid getting a sticker. If the vehicle pulls in, the 136 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: check engine light's not on, the odomino works, it's got 137 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: the right plates, and a couple other little nonsensical things 138 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: that they're worried about. If that vehicle doesn't have a windshield, 139 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: as they told me over the phone, ron, find a 140 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: place to put the stick, crank up the side window, 141 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: put the sticker there, and send the car out the door. 142 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: So I come back to my original opening statement. If 143 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: you're traveling through New Jersey, or traveling in a car 144 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: with Jersey plates on it, drive faster because the life 145 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: you save, maybe your own. You don't know how safe 146 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: or unsafe that particular car is. I think that's how 147 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: I would start the show today. I'm not sure if 148 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: that's good or bad, but that's how I did it. 149 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: I hope you'll like it. Let's get over to Brian 150 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: and Man and kick the garage doors wide open. Brian, 151 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm fired up and ready to go. Brother. How can 152 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: the car Doctor help you today? I'm a longtime listener. 153 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, my favorite show on the radio. Thank you. 154 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: What's going on? I'll tell you what. I bought a 155 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven gmc c era basic work truck, 156 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: crank up windows. It was a used truck eighty thousand 157 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: miles abouttered a year ago. I brought it home after 158 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: a couple of days my batteries death, and I said, 159 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, I did you know? And so I brought 160 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: it back there. I bought it from me. Test it goes, 161 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: everything is fine? Well, I brought it him. I did 162 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: a parasitic draw test on it. I found out when 163 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: I told the radio fuse it went down to like 164 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: point seven because it started out about I think it 165 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: was three point two four. I don't have that exactly 166 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: in front of me. But I think so you're set. 167 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: You're set on an amp scale, right, Brian, I said 168 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: it on a ten am scale on a multi meter okay, 169 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: all right? And so it started out and started out 170 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: at like three and a quarter ramps and it dropped 171 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: down to three quarters of an amp exactly, and within 172 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: half an hour dropped down to zero. And I've had 173 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: the same battery in the truck for a year. I've 174 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: been running it with no radio. I brought it back 175 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: to the same guy to get an inspection stick up, 176 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I just told him about it. I said, 177 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, this is nothing wrong here with this radio. 178 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: And I was wondering, and he told me to go 179 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: fund buy a radio for two one at alls and 180 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: put it in you know so, But I was just wondering, 181 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: have you run into this well is the climbing thing 182 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: with the GMC truck the stock radios? And what would 183 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: you recommend? I dot's let's not want to monkey around 184 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: with my electron, all right, Hang on a second, Brian, 185 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: let me get in here. Um let's back up a second. 186 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: First of all, I want you to do this test. 187 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: I want you to set your your multimeter milliams. I 188 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: want a more accurate reading, all right, So you'll you'll 189 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: see thirty two and something milliams for your for your 190 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: initial draw, and then you'll see it drop down to 191 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: um seventy milliams. Okay, and you know the number is 192 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: all right? The number is anything less than fifty milliams 193 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: is an acceptable draw. So correct me if I'm wrong. 194 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: But I think I heard you say that within thirty 195 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: minutes it drops down to zero. Yes, well, zero is 196 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: an acceptable number, and within thirty minutes is an acceptable 197 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: time period. Just what I'm saying is, but I told 198 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: the fuse and I don't use my radio. I've been running. 199 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: I've been running around a year without the radio, without 200 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: the clock. Okay, Now, maybe you've got an trmitten fault 201 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: because you can't when you had the seven tense draw, 202 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: all right, did you pull the fuse then or did 203 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: you wait thirty minutes for the test to complete? No? 204 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: I pulled it. That was fine. Are you still with me? 205 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm here bid Okay. When I pulled it, immediately went 206 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: down to this, to the point seven from the three 207 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: point two four. Okay, well wait wait wait radio, and 208 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: then wait wait all all time, time, time, time, time, time. 209 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: You hook up an MP you hook up a milliam meter, 210 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: all right, don't touch anything, all right, You have to 211 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: give the vehicle time to time out. A modern car 212 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: could take anywhere from thirty to sixty minutes before computers 213 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: are gonna shut down giving you an accurate reading. I'm 214 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: not saying you don't have a draw. It just sounds 215 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: like you've done the test role because if you're telling 216 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: me you had a if you're telling me you had 217 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: a three am draw, will round it off. You had 218 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: a three m draw and within you know, five minutes, 219 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: you're you're pulling the fuses trying to see what makes 220 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: it go away? Is that what you did? Yeah, yeah, 221 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: that's that's that's because the radio, the radio circuit was 222 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: the one that was on. So so here's what I 223 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: want you to do. Okay, hook everything back up, make 224 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: everything work again, all right, hook your milliam meter up. 225 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: Disconnect one of the battery posts. We could have a 226 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: conversation about positive or negative, which way you want to 227 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: leave the ions flow, but we don't have time for 228 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: that today. Just took it up to one of them. 229 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: You know, how to do a milliam draw test he 230 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: did it a year ago. Right, hook it up, take 231 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: the keys out of the ignition, close the hood. All right, 232 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to lay the meter on the windshield. 233 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: Long leads out the front, Lay the meter on the windshield, 234 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: close the hood, closed the doors, leave the driver's window down. 235 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: It's easier to get it and stick your head around 236 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: if you have to look at anything. All right, make 237 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: sure all the doors are closed. Make sure there's no 238 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: battery charger plugged in. Make sure there's no other accessories 239 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: plugged in. Let the car sit up to sixty minutes. 240 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: What kind of a draw do you have at the 241 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: end of that sixty minute time period without touching anything. 242 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you don't have a draw. I'm not 243 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: saying that I have a draw. What I'm saying is 244 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying that you may find that you have. You 245 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: have a draw in a different circuit. It's not radio related, 246 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: but that's how you diagnose it. Do that. Call me 247 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: back eight zero round naeding the car doctor right after this. 248 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: Don't go away. Need advice on how they're maintaining that 249 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: classic g t O. Ron is the guy eight five 250 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: five five zero nine zero zero. Here's Ron Hey, let's 251 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: get over to William, Newburg, New York. William. Welcome to 252 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor, sir, how can I help? All Right? 253 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: I got a two thousand two Ford Explorer about a 254 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand miles the car. It's it's not 255 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: a primary vehicle. The problem is it's not starting. The 256 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: starter doesn't make any noise. You turn the key, nothing, 257 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: not even a click. The battery is good, the headlights 258 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: are good. I did replace the starter. The selenoid lead 259 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: has no voltage when the key is in the start position. 260 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: Your suggestions. Okay, so the first thing you need to know. 261 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: Not not to make this difficult, but you've got the 262 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: one year whether it could be a late build or 263 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: an early build. Explorer. When it comes to starter wiring, 264 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: ask me how I know? So? Um? You know? So 265 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: some of the diagnosis might change a little bit here, Okay, Now, 266 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: in the battery junction box under the hood, alright, which 267 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: is battery fuse box number one? Fuse number twelve? Al right? 268 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: Is fuse number twelve? Good? First question? Okay, does fuse 269 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: number twelve show, um, not just continuity across it, but 270 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: do the terminals of fuse number twelve of in that 271 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: battery junction box under the hood, show good contact. How 272 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: long has it been since the vehicle started? Oh, five months? 273 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: Six months? So you know the other thing to think 274 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: about is because the vehicle sat, do we show any 275 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: signs of critter intrusion? You know, farmans and vehicles. You 276 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: gotta think about it, right, was it outside? Was it 277 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: out of the house, or was it in a garage outside? 278 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: There's also an additional problem that may be related. I 279 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: don't know. I had a fuel pump that was malfunctioning, 280 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: replaced that then it worked, But the starter did give 281 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: me problems prior to the replacement, meaning sometimes it would 282 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: start and sometimes it wouldn't start. So what I'm getting 283 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: at is, I think it's got to be an electrical issue, right, 284 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: It's it's just a continuation of a different problem. What 285 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: what makes this a little bit out of the box, 286 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: so to speak. The diagnose is the ground for the 287 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: starter relay. I mean it's a pretty ample circuit, right 288 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: the key comes on, Uh, it energizes, But the key 289 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: on energizes and tells the engine computer that you want 290 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: to start. You don't. You're not directly controlling the starter 291 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: relay by key. You're controlling the starter relay by the PCM. 292 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: When the engine controller thinks that that that William wants 293 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: the starter to engage, it grounds the the ground leg 294 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: of the starter relay to close the circuit to apply 295 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: feed to the starter motor. All right, so it's not 296 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: a direct contact. Do you have a scan tool by chance? 297 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: Get one? Plug it in, go and look to see 298 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: you'll find you'll find the prindle position or the prindle pit, park, reverse, drive, 299 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: neutral and all that. Does the computer see the vehicle 300 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: in park? All right? If if if it doesn't see 301 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: it in park, if it thinks the vehicles in reverse 302 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: or drive, it will never engage the starter. You don't 303 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: even have power going down to that leg, which is 304 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: what you're describing to me, all right now. Now the 305 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: next thing is, while you've got the scan tool hooked up, 306 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: scan it for codes. Do you show any faults in 307 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: the anti theft system an anti theft event if it 308 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: thinks that you've got a bad key, wrong key, or 309 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: somebody's trying to steal Williams eighteen year old explorer, which 310 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure why anybody would. Um, you know, it'll 311 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: it'll put that vehicle into a no crank situation. Do 312 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: you have a no start condition going on? All right? 313 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: Specifically you're looking for I believe it's a bight fault code. 314 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. One is what you're looking for alright? Telling 315 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: you that there's a theft LF. Is the theft light 316 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: flashing by chance? Did you notice? I would have to check. Okay, 317 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: take a look at the theft light. Of the theft 318 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: light is flashing. It thinks this is a theft event 319 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: and it wan't with the starter engage. Okay. Now, if 320 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: I disconnect the battery for a certain amount of time 321 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: with that reset it no if the faults there, if 322 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: it's a hard faul, it's a hard full. And then 323 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: the other thing to think about is, especially on an 324 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: older vehicle like this as they age, one of the 325 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: things I've learned is grab yourself a wiring diagram. There's 326 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: a fuse in the underhood fuse box off which is 327 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: number two. I think it's fuse twenty nine, which is 328 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: part of this circuit. I take fuses out and I 329 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: look at them very carefully. I turn them over. Does 330 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: anything look like it's got a burnt contact or corroded contact. 331 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: We always start at the fuses right, and then we 332 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: trace the circuit out from there, and you know it's 333 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: possible you've got a bad starter relay. But before we 334 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: go there, I want to note, since there's a PCM involved, 335 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: does it see park the shifting it into neutral, change anything? 336 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: Does you know if I find the ground leg of 337 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: the starter relay from the PCM, can I measure voltage there? 338 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: Can I measure signal? A couple of things to look at? 339 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: Call me back, let me know, William, I'm here for you. 340 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 1: Eight by five five zero nine zero zero. The car 341 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: doctors on the case right after this, don't go away, 342 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: well them back. We're on nading the car doctor at 343 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. Larry in Virginia. Oh five, lexus, Larry, 344 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: how can I help you? At your service? Sir well. 345 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: I I have Alexis from two thousand five. It has 346 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: these plastic panels underneath it that that are water splash 347 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: guards I guess for the engine and are of the 348 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: cooling system. I guess. Anyway, they attached They attached to 349 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: the bumper up front by something that's fairly pro and 350 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: the car is very low to the ground, so as 351 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: you as you ride up over any sort of a 352 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: curb or bumpet's it damages those those brackets up front 353 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: that hold the plastics, hold the plastic in place. Well, 354 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: eventually they wore out. The plastic panels dropped down, we're 355 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: scraping and got destroyed. So right now I'm driving around 356 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: without the plastic panels. The bumper, you can't tell. Bumper 357 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: looks great, it's just underneath that that those brackets are missing. 358 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: So my question, and remember those car is already fifteen 359 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: years old, So my question is, is leaving those plastic 360 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: covers uh you know engine covers from on the bottom, 361 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: leaving them off? Is that kind of Is there any 362 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: consequences to that? At this point? Did you walk to school, Larry? 363 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: What did you walk to school or did you take 364 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: the bus? Okay, so you took the bus. And when 365 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: you went out on rainy days, did mom tell you 366 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: to wear your boots and glosses or did she let 367 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: you go out in your sneakers? I have a point, no, no, no, 368 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: I went to glashes. Yet you went went to glosses, 369 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: right and your feet stayed dry and warm? Right? Yeah? 370 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah most of the time. Well, those those plates are 371 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: kind of like the galoshes all right, they keep the 372 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: water off the engine, but more importantly, either keeping the 373 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: water off any electronics that are down there, switches, wiring 374 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: harnesses and you know, anything electronic that's down under the car. 375 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: And even on a No. Five there was a lot 376 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: of electronics. They've got their purpose. They're not there. A 377 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: lot of people think they're they're just for aerodynamics and 378 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: to protect the engine from road splash. They are there 379 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: to protect the engine from road splash, but the bigger 380 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: deal is they're worried about much about road splash on 381 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: the engine and corrosive material as they are about you know, 382 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: affecting wiring harnesses, connectors, transmission module connectors, you know, anything 383 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: down there that's exposed to you know, road salt and 384 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: debris and schmutz would be the non technical term. So yeah, 385 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: it's pretty important. Um and you know, like you wearing 386 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: galoshes to school, even though you probably didn't go to 387 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: high school wearing your galoshes because who did, right, we 388 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: had to look cool and get our sneakers into the 389 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: history class at two o'clock. But um, you know it, 390 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,239 Speaker 1: it doesn't care how old you are, It doesn't care 391 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: what age the car is, right fifteen years or twenty 392 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: five years. If you're gonna keep driving the car. Now, 393 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: if you're gonna only drive the car on nice days, 394 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna cut down the odds of you know, something 395 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: like that happening. If you retire and move to southern Florida, 396 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: you're probably okay as long as you're not caught in 397 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: a hurricane. But yeah, those panels serve a purpose and 398 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: if you can reasonably replace them, uh, you should put 399 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: them back on. They're gonna add to the longevity of 400 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: the vehicle you plan it on keeping the car, yeah, Yeah, 401 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: it's it's hard talk convertibly. You can't really replace it. Yeah, 402 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: the problem is to replace them, to secure them up front, 403 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to buy a new bumper cover and 404 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: that and that will be a fortune. Right. Well, so listen, 405 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: you know we we like to say when we were restoring, 406 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: when we're restoring and dealing with hot rods, that there 407 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: are no obstacles. Listen, I'll tell you a story. I 408 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna tell you guys this story, but Larry you 409 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: made me do it. It's on you today, all right. 410 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: I had a customer in the last couple of weeks 411 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: a nineties six. Listen to this, a nineties six old Aurora. 412 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: Do you know what this car looks like? Do you 413 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: remember these cars? They were kind of they they and 414 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: it was. It's so futuristic. It's kind of like out 415 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: of two thousand one of Space odosey, And I'm dating myself. 416 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm pretending it's ninety two all over again. And I went, what, um, 417 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, just just a really crazy futuristic looking car 418 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: for its time. Well, I think I've got the last 419 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: one left in America. Twenty six years old, only seventy 420 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it. But it doesn't run right. She 421 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: brings me the car three weeks ago. It doesn't run right, 422 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: but it's not there for the check engine light in 423 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: the misfire. It's there because the top of the fuel 424 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: tank locking ring has rusted out and the fuel pump 425 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: is sticking up out of the top of the tank. 426 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: So she fills the tank up. It's bills gas all 427 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: over her garage. So she went me to fix the 428 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: gas tank. I want to make the engine run right. 429 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: How long has the engine been running like that? Well, okay, 430 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: then you know everybody's tried to fix this car. Nobody's 431 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: been able to diagnose it. He brought to the wrong guy, lady. 432 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: Bottom line, all right, I went through the car, figured 433 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: out that the rust from the fuel pump sitting up 434 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: top had fallen into the tank, contaminated the whole fuel rail, 435 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: rotted the injectors. The car needed injectors, The car needed 436 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: a fuel rail, The car needed a tank, all right, 437 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: and miscellaneous other parts. To the tune of about if 438 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: we went and did it, the problem was and to 439 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: Lena's to Lena's dedication, she wanted to fix the car. 440 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: We couldn't find a gas tank for this car. And 441 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: then we realized that there's gonna be some other extenuating 442 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: issues because she's been driving at seven years in such 443 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: poor condition. The car barely got up the rim the 444 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: nose of the driveway trying to get in the door. 445 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: And my point becomes that restoring cars or driving older 446 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: cars has its price. And and you know, it's like 447 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: you said, you can't really replace the car that easy. 448 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: So if it was Larry, if it was three grand 449 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: to do a bumper and a splash shield, would it matter. 450 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: You can't replace the car for three grand, You can't 451 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: replace the car for thirty You probably can't replace the 452 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: car for fifty I don't know. I don't keep numbers 453 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: in my head. Go to KBB dot com. Let me 454 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: ask you this question. What kind of card you're driving 455 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: high school? This is Larry, Larry, this is your life 456 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: today on radio? What kind of card you're driving? High school? 457 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: What you're driving at chaps? Did you like it? All right? 458 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: If this was your nineteen sixty eight jeepster, would you 459 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: hesitate to spend money on it and shape it back up? No? No, 460 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't be three. It would be well, oh, 461 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: I got notes for you. If you're driving your nineteen 462 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: sixty eight jeepster in it'd probably be ten thousand dollars 463 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: all right. And my point is if you squint your 464 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: eyes and if when you you know, kind of note 465 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: your backside down into that seat, and you you look 466 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: at the road ahead and put on your sunglasses and 467 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: kind of give it that, you know, the roadhouse blues 468 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: by the doors on the radio. You're good to go. 469 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: You know what, it's you, it's your hot rod. Brother. 470 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: If it makes you happy and you can afford it 471 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: to it, just put the shield on and put the 472 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: bumper on it, and uh, you know, just have a 473 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: good time with it. It's a car. Enjoy it, don't 474 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: don't let it sit in the garage, and don't be 475 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: miserable with it. Okay, all right, thanks for playing Larry. 476 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: Appreciate the call today. So that's what cars are, you know. 477 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: Cars are an extension of us. I have a customer, Joe, 478 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: and Joe's bringing his car in on Monday. Uh. He 479 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: stopped in on Wednesday with the wife's car. We serviced it. 480 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: When he was picking it up, he said, Ron, can 481 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: you help me out and look at Dixie's sunvisor in 482 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: a raft for And I went out and looked at it. 483 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: And the sunvisor keeps and Joe's a tall guy and 484 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: it keeps falling down and hitting him in the head. 485 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: The sunvisor is broken. And he said, I don't know 486 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: what to do. He said it's gonna be expensive. I said, well, Joe, 487 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: I got there's two things you can do. He says, 488 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: what's that. Well, I said there's three. Actually. I said, 489 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: you can a buy a new car, which will be 490 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: thirty dollars b. I said you could take the sun 491 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: visor out altogether, which won't work because there's gonna be 492 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: moments you need it, or see we can spend a 493 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: hundred and ten dollars, which is how much the new 494 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: sunvisor is from Toyota, put it in the car, and 495 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: then you're happy driving it. He said, Yeah, I like that, 496 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: he said, because I'm gonna give that. I'm gonna get 497 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: this car from Dixie, and she's gonna get a new car. 498 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: The wife always gets a new car. Did you notice that? 499 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: And as I said to Joe, as I say to 500 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: all of you, don't drive a car and be miserable. 501 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: Put a few bucks in it, enjoy it for what 502 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: it is, and remember it's a car. It's meant to 503 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: be driven, and it's meant to be driven with joy, 504 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: because it's a great gift to be able to drive 505 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: an automobile. On this day and age five zero zero 506 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: running nating the car doctor. Coming back right after this, 507 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: welcome back, while I'm naming the car doctor. Right your 508 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: serve us at eight five five zero. Let's get over 509 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: to Gale in New Jersey. Gale, you're on what's going on? Fine? 510 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm interested in buying a Nissan Frontier, and I understand 511 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: that they're putting the Titan engine into the model. And 512 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: the other thing is I got some I'm anxious because 513 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: I don't hear good things. Oh, they don't stand by 514 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: their product, that type of thing. So I was moving 515 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: over to the GMC canyon. But my question is how 516 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: do you feel about this change of engine and the 517 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: product itself? Well, first of all, any vehicle you buy 518 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: is only as good as the guys working on it. 519 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: So that's that's that's number one. And I've always said, 520 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: and I've always believed that any repair shop, you know, 521 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: it's it's only as good as the tech in the shop. 522 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: And I don't care whether it's GM, Nissan for whatever. 523 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: All right, there's good and bad in all of them. 524 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: Whether it's an independent or a dealership, it doesn't matter. 525 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: So that being said, you know, the first question I 526 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: always asked somebody when they're thinking about something like this 527 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: is well, actually I asked two questions. What were you 528 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: driving before? What's the vehicle you're replacing? And who worked 529 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: on it? Okay, Um, I drive a two thousand and 530 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: four Dodge Dakota, which I absolutely love, and it's been 531 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: maintained service by a young man I met when I 532 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: worked at a Dodge dealer. Um that was when he 533 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: was nineteen I think he's now that's thirty years ago, 534 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: right right, he's fifty. Yes, and and I'm gonna be eighty. 535 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: So you got the pictures, right, yeah, I got this. 536 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: Um this is my last car, the Dodge was supposed 537 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: to be. Let me tell you when it go, people 538 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: offer me money if they only knew how rusted this 539 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: thing really is. Yeah, well I can imagine. So let 540 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: me ask you this. Have you driven both vehicles? Have 541 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: you driven the Frontier? Have you driven the Canyon? I 542 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: drove the Frontier. It was not what do they call 543 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: them quad camps now, I don't know the cu camp. 544 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: I drove the cul crate cab and it was fine, 545 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: it was okay. And the Canyon I have been driven. Okay, 546 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: So first thing, you gotta go drive the Canyon, and 547 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: then you have to go back and drive the Frontier 548 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: at night. You drove it during the day. Yes, you 549 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: gotta do a nighttime road test. You always have to. 550 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: You always have to drive a new car daytime and 551 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: nighttime because cars cars changed their personalities daytime and nighttime, 552 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: all right, thank you, They just they just do different things. 553 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: The buttons are dark, you can't see anything. You have 554 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: to reach to look around and you have to. You know, 555 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: it's it's there's a different personality between the daytime right 556 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: and the all time ride. Absolutely positively. As far as 557 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: the as far as you know, the vehicle, the twenty 558 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: Frontier is pretty bulletproof. It's a traditional trans rear wheel drive, 559 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: four wheel drive configuration. Whatever you're getting. The bigger engine, 560 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: the bigger engine, I'm not afraid of. That's pretty bulletproof 561 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: as far as that's concerned. The Nissan dealers, the two 562 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: that I know that I work with on a regular basis, 563 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: they're pretty stand up. They they'll actually bend over backwards 564 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: and work with you. And I think that's just again 565 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: we're back to the individual, you know, um, the people 566 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: in that dealership, the life of the blood of that 567 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: particular dealership. Uh, Nissan, the company is pretty flexible. Nissan 568 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: is in my second tier of recommendation. When people ask 569 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: me what to buy, it's usually Toyota, Honda, four GM, 570 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: and then we go into the second tier, which is Nissan, 571 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: Hyundai and a few others. All right, Chrysler's not in 572 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: my wheelhouse right now. Although the Dodge truck is nice, 573 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: Chrysler gives an issue with access to service information, and 574 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: there's some other things I don't like about Chrysler's but 575 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: that's just a personal opinion. You know. I know a 576 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: lot of people that drive him that love them. So 577 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: I think what you've got to do is go back 578 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: and take some road tests. I wouldn't be afraid of 579 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: the Nissan. I think pound for pound, that GMC Canyon 580 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: will give that Nissan a run for its money. I 581 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: was just looking at a Canyon the other day online 582 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: just for giggles, pricing one out, and they're pretty competitive 583 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: and it's something that I would definitely consider doing. So, um, 584 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's where you are at. And you know, 585 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: go back and take that second road test and let 586 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: us know how it works out. You take good care, Gil, 587 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: and we'll see you again. Already, Ron and any and 588 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: the car Doctor, we're back right after this. Welcome back, 589 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: ran the car Doctor. Let's go over to Jim and Delaware. Jim. 590 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor. Sir. We're working on today. 591 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey? Ron, I have a two 592 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: thousand three Buick lest Saber. It's like a it's a 593 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: second car I got from my mother. We bought it 594 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: brand new in the two thousand three, and uh, it's 595 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: in perfect condition as far as the body goes. But 596 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: of course little things keep keep falling apart on the 597 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: GM product. But anyway, what's happening lately is that what 598 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: happened yesterday. I was just driving it um and I 599 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: was going about thirty miles an hour, and uh, you know, 600 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: I was just gliding to the red light, you know, 601 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: so I didn't have my foot really accelerating, and the 602 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: parties died and so I was coasting. I could see 603 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: the instrument cluster come on, it's a volt. It was read, 604 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: and it was like this had happened before a couple 605 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: of times lately, and I just pulled off to the 606 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: side of the road, put it in park, started it up. 607 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: It started right up, and just drove away. But you know, 608 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out, you know, why is 609 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: this thing dying. I mean, it's not the battery. It's 610 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, I get my service my car, this car 611 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: Repairtive minor Key, which I think is pretty good in 612 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: the local Moni Key, and they said, well, I told 613 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: him about it. And they cleaned the throttle they said, 614 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: or the gas pedal or something like that. They cleaned it, 615 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: and that's what they came up with. So here, let 616 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: me let me, let me let me jump in here, Jim, 617 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: because we got two minutes. So when it dies, okay, 618 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: is this you're approaching a traffic light? Are you going 619 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: faster than thirty five? I don't think so. So I 620 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: don't think I was going faster. Okay, but but you 621 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: were you traveling at say thirty forty and then as 622 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: you're slowing down and it gets into that five range, 623 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: that's where it cuts it. Well yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 624 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: generally speaking. All right, So is it does it chuggle? 625 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: Does it sort of struggle? Like? Is it? Or is 626 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: it just die? Clean? Like somebody turned the key it? 627 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: It died it this time, it just died. But before 628 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: I was like parked in a parking space, I had 629 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: the air conditioning on. It was on the max. And 630 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: then I pulled out the parking spot and I was 631 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: pulling onto the road and soon as I pulled on 632 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: the road, it died. You know, is this is this? 633 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: Is this very intermittent? Or would a mechanic be able 634 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: to duplicate it? I think they would, I don't I 635 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: don't know if they would be able to duplicate it. 636 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: How often does how often does it happen with you? 637 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: It's happened three or four times over what kind of 638 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: over what kind of a time frame Jim in the 639 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: last three or four months? Okay, So a couple of 640 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: basic things that the vehicle has been sitting in any 641 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: length of time. Check the mass airflow sensor, take it off, 642 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: have them looking at and there any signs of cobwebs, 643 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: are foreign debrier matter. Make sure the air intake duct 644 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: is not cracked, broken, or leaking. Also, will consider looking 645 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: at any of the data stream parameters and the computer. 646 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: Are they being reset like long term, short term fuel trim? 647 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: Maybe this is a power issue to the PCM. Do 648 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: that call me back. I'm wanting any of the car 649 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: doctor can mechanics are an expensive They're priceless.