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Speaker 1: Do you Around the NFL podcast has completely fixed their mechanics.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: room filled with herero was Mark Sssler, Kelly and Wolf

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Speaker 1: and Greg Ryls and thal what's up team? Hey? Hey, hey, Okay,

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Speaker 1: liked it. Yeah, I've been cool A little bit of

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Speaker 1: a wink. Martindale Field to that intro today. I could

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Speaker 1: do that job. Did you guys see Money's mustache? By

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Speaker 1: the way, I have seen a tweet. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: if it was for something he was shooting or what

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Speaker 1: I think he said. I saw him at Chargers training

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Speaker 1: camp and he was saying something about the fact that

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Speaker 1: guys grow playoff beards, why can't he grow preseason mustache? So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was rocking the stash. I thought it looked good.

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Speaker 1: It does follow the trend. People are always coming up

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Speaker 1: with reasons to grow mustaches, beards or whatever like they need.

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Speaker 1: So that's the thing. Just own it, dude. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you want to grow a mustache, That's fine, It's two

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Speaker 1: thousand seventeen. It is. Actually that is funny. You bring

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Speaker 1: it and money if you're not aware. He handles those

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Speaker 1: intros uh so well for our podcast at no cost

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Speaker 1: to us, and it's certainly no income to him. But

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Speaker 1: I think money is doing okay. I think men in general, um,

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Speaker 1: when uh, if you're shaving a beard or you're in

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Speaker 1: a situation what you decided to grow a mustache, it

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Speaker 1: looks a lot better when you're in your bathroom by yourself,

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Speaker 1: and you know the stigma attached to the most Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I definitely do. And then you walk outside the bathroom

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Speaker 1: and then you just hope it doesn't get ridiculed. But

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Speaker 1: almost every time, especially women, um, they'll say no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you just gotta own that thing. You gotta I mean

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Speaker 1: you've had a mustache before, right, So I have worn

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Speaker 1: one for the most part for the last four years

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Speaker 1: on and off. So yeah, that explains a lot. Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: but terrible time for facial hair in general, where the

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Speaker 1: idea of a beard in general has become this like

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Speaker 1: in beard culture, beard oil oil. Yeah, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: is this is this gonna are you heading into a rant?

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Speaker 1: Against the millennials here. No, no, I mean I actually

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Speaker 1: this is pre millennial. It's not a millennial shot. I

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Speaker 1: just think the idea of like, let's not over celebrate

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Speaker 1: a beard. Having a beard means that you've done nothing.

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Speaker 1: You didn't shave, you did nothing, hair just grew in

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Speaker 1: fired up about it. It's you know, I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: it does. Anyway, way, off, we got a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about that in the news. We also have a

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Speaker 1: lot of preseason football to get to. Week one of

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Speaker 1: on Friday. And then of course I got a big

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Speaker 1: announcement announcement, big announcement that's coming up at the end

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Speaker 1: of the show. That's classic keys. In the old days

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Speaker 1: It would seem strange to skip past the Ezekiel Elliott news.

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Speaker 1: skip ahead. Counterpoint, You can skip ahead, get the news

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Speaker 1: if you really want it, then come back and listen

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Speaker 1: to the rest. Just don't do it. Very flexible. I

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Speaker 1: mean you could even skip ahead and skip the rest

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Speaker 1: have a lot of options in today's media. Double time

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Speaker 1: What's up, buddy, Boys up, guys, last show on the mic.

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Speaker 1: This is it? Yeah, this is it. I'm sure you're crushed, crushed, crushed. No,

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Speaker 1: it's been it's been a fun summer outside of the

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Speaker 1: outside of all my involvement with your show. No, no, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: been a great summer, Sully style taking shots out. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: who's gonna take the mic? Erica is taking over the mic.

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Speaker 1: big fan already, right, so for you guys. Alright, Sully,

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Speaker 1: so long forever until the next time. We are in

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Speaker 1: a disaster mode with our production team, which could happen

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Speaker 1: We'll see you guys, and welcome Erica. No pressure, don't

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Speaker 1: He's twenty two years old. But the league handed down

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Speaker 1: I find it interesting because Greg, I agree with you

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Speaker 1: Nicks and Chan Gailey and Doug Whaley and Rex Ryan

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Speaker 1: and every other plan that they've changed every two years

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. But I think it's fair if you're a

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Speaker 1: Bills fan to be a little annoyed that, hey, we

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Speaker 1: just gave up two first round picks and in another

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Speaker 1: pick for Sammy Watkins. That was our guy. We bought

431
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Speaker 1: a ton of jerseys. He's the most talented guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: receiver we've had in a long time. He's gone. Ronald

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Speaker 1: Darby was PFF Defensive Rookie of the Year. This is

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Speaker 1: the part of the move that doesn't make much sense

435
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Speaker 1: to me, because he's got two years left on his

436
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Speaker 1: contract that total one point three million dollars. The Eagles

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Speaker 1: have to look at it like, we just got an

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Speaker 1: extremely talented player who doesn't cost anything. Worst case scenario,

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Speaker 1: we franchise him like three years from now. That's a

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Speaker 1: three year contract at a very low price for a

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Speaker 1: very good player. And all we had to give up

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Speaker 1: was a third round pick and Jordan Matthews, who was

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Speaker 1: in the last year of his contract, who probably wasn't

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Speaker 1: going to stick around Philly right, probably wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: be that big of a fact. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: very replaceable UH wide receiver that they're not gonna really

447
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Speaker 1: miss too much with Nelson Aghilar and they've got some

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Speaker 1: depth there and they get Ronald Darby back. It's great

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Speaker 1: for them, and I think Bills fans just have to

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Speaker 1: put their faith in Like, Okay, I guess we have

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Speaker 1: to trust that McDermott and Billy and Brandon Bean are

452
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Speaker 1: gonna make the right picks. But when was the last

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Speaker 1: time of Bill's GM made the right picks. It was

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Speaker 1: about twenty years ago. So so I don't blame the

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Speaker 1: totally different the fans for being I know it's different people,

456
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Speaker 1: but these are You're looking for really talented young players

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Speaker 1: and they just traded away two of their most talented

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Speaker 1: young players. As I'd say though down in the news

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Speaker 1: when we were saying it, it it technically is not a

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Speaker 1: three team trade now, but it is in the sense

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Speaker 1: that the only way that they get Watkins out the door,

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Speaker 1: which was going to happen at some point anyways, was

463
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Speaker 1: to get something in return. And the Philadelphia side of it,

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Speaker 1: I think they got They didn't get fleeced, but they

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Speaker 1: gave up a lot to get Joe Matthew. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: saying I'm seeing the Bills. The Bills giving up Darby

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Speaker 1: is an expensive piece. But I think there was an

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Speaker 1: agenda to get Watkins out of town. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that Jordan Matthews is going to be better than Sammy Watkins.

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Speaker 1: Though Jordan Matthews has never had a thousand yards receiving.

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Speaker 1: Even Kenny Britt last year had more receiving. He has

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Speaker 1: a high ceiling. Watkins on the Ram side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Let's just look at the Rams before we move on here.

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Speaker 1: So they get another weapon and Watkins, and listen, this

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Speaker 1: guy has been Bills traded up and passed on, essentially

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Speaker 1: Mike Evans and Odell Beckham to get Sammy Watkins three

477
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Speaker 1: years ago. And now it's now the Rams. It's their

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Speaker 1: turn to really invest in the idea of Sammy Watkins

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Speaker 1: as a superstar. But on paper, I get it you

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Speaker 1: first overall, pick Jared Goff had nothing to work with,

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Speaker 1: had a coaching staff that was over the match last year.

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Speaker 1: Let's now give him a real weapon on the outside,

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Speaker 1: the where you could come at them a little bit,

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Speaker 1: greg As, you could say, all right, you know, Watkins

485
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Speaker 1: is unproven, He's got a foot his foot issues. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and it costs you a second round pick when your

487
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Speaker 1: team is clearly still building towards something. It's expensive to

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Speaker 1: get a guy with as much risk as Watkins haves,

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Speaker 1: especially when the two thousand eighteen free agent class of

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Speaker 1: wide receiver is so deep you don't want to get

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Speaker 1: in the habit of trading way future picks. And this

492
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Speaker 1: this group Sean McVeigh was still paying for Jared Goff trade.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have a first or second round pick this year,

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Speaker 1: and now they trade away next year's This deal only

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Speaker 1: makes sense if Watkins is their long term. They now

496
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Speaker 1: are in the spot where they have to get a

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Speaker 1: contract done with Aerodonald. They basically have to make this

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Speaker 1: Watkins move work because it really makes no sense for

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Speaker 1: it to happen as a one year rental. That said,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles biggest hole on their roster was cornerback. By far,

501
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Speaker 1: it was not a competitive cornerback group. The Rams biggest

502
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Speaker 1: hole in the roster by far was a vertical type

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Speaker 1: of receiver. I mean, the closest thing they had was

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Speaker 1: Robert Woods, Who's a possession guy. Right suddenly, they makes

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Speaker 1: a lot more sense. Okay, Robert Woods, the possession guy,

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Speaker 1: you got Cooper cups your slot receiver, and Tavon Austin

507
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Speaker 1: is essentially a forgotten man and just kind of a

508
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Speaker 1: utility number four guy, and it all works a lot better.

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Speaker 1: This team is much better with Sammy. Watch one thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean this Rams front office A you had to

511
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Speaker 1: cut bait on Greg Robinson, and now all the whispers are, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: how do we get rid of Tavon Austin? Can he

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Speaker 1: be traded? Oh, he doesn't have a certain you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't own a certain amount of money after this season,

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Speaker 1: it's more doable after signing the ridiculous extension that he

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Speaker 1: has signed, which was essentially the team saying we've created

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Speaker 1: a star player, but no one else saw him as

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Speaker 1: a star player. If Tavon Austin moves and you are

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Speaker 1: the Rams GM, you have essentially with two first round

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Speaker 1: picks on your tenure, they're already off the team. How

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Speaker 1: much more time do you have in that organization? That's

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Speaker 1: why I think it it lowers the honeymoon period here

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Speaker 1: now with Watkins and God, it's like, okay, we gotta

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Speaker 1: have Goffin Watkins do some damnit. I think I think

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Speaker 1: they gotta win seven games minimum. This year and show

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Speaker 1: something and be competitive where I think Snead finally runs

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Speaker 1: out of time. He's had, He's had quite a bit

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Speaker 1: of rope. Uh Now, now before we move on, just

529
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Speaker 1: because it's such a seismic deal, I got to throw

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Speaker 1: it over to the fantasy corner and the Mark Sessler

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Speaker 1: fantasy corner. It's a dangerous place to be volcanic viewpoints.

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Speaker 1: And also I forgot my mace. Yeah, just quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: it's not a nice neighborhoods Mark. What is the fallout

534
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Speaker 1: for Sammy Watkins and his fantasy value in two thousand seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I think his fantasy value is listen, if he can

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Speaker 1: play a full sixteen games, I could see sixty catches.

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Speaker 1: It's about five touchdowns, which is in the neighborhood of

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Speaker 1: what he did his first two seasons before last year's

539
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Speaker 1: injury riddled campaign. But that that all triggers off Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff not being a fundamental disaster. Yes. Question, question, is

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Speaker 1: that a military tank behind you? Ah? Yes, this this

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Speaker 1: part of town is hot on the North Korean radar,

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Speaker 1: and so there are concerns how much of your outfit

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Speaker 1: is kevlar. I'm not sure what that means, oh, Kevin

545
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: am I kevlar kevlar armor. I don't wear armored because listen,

546
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: a reporter just has to put themselves right into that.

547
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Speaker 1: You want to be part of the real common man.

548
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: When you're out here on the street, most of them

549
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: are running. Most of them are running. So let's let's

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Speaker 1: put our our windows up and drive away before we

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Speaker 1: move on. Though, I know we talked a little bit

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Speaker 1: about being a year of course, the a t N insider,

553
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: but you're not the only one who had a little

554
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: bit of a scoop earlier. This week, it's becoming more clear,

555
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Speaker 1: and the Philadelphia Eagles trade Jordan Matthews to the Bills

556
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Speaker 1: for a mid round pick, let's say the fourth round pick.

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Speaker 1: That was Monday. That was just last show to our show,

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Speaker 1: we said, make one prediction, what's going to happen in

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Speaker 1: the off season? There we go. That's pretty good, bro Um.

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Speaker 1: Who's whose voice? That wasn't? That was an interesting voice

561
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: over that Erica? Who was It was like a weird

562
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Speaker 1: paranormal ie randomly walking by Eric coming in off the

563
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Speaker 1: bench early in the first quarter and uh doing a

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Speaker 1: nice job so far? All right, good, good trip to

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Corner by the way, Fantasy Extravaganza coming up

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Speaker 1: later this month. Finally in the news real quick, just

567
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: because it's kind of a silly story at this point.

568
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: Brandon Albert, the offensive lineman the Jags traded for he

569
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Speaker 1: was holding out Um for a deal, and then he retired,

570
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: and then that was in late July, and then earlier

571
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Speaker 1: this week Albert expressed his design to return to the team.

572
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: The team in turn placed him on the reserve slash

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Speaker 1: retired list. Colleen and uh and then the Jaguars they

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00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: just washed their hands entirely. They released the offensive tackle

575
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: according to rap Sheet on Friday, put a bow on it, Colleen. Yeah,

576
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: this was box a lot of activity for Brandon Albert

577
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: for Um actually not not doing anything, but we've been

578
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: talking about him a lot. It's been a weird journey

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Speaker 1: for him on the team, off the team. Retired, maybe

580
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Speaker 1: not retired. I think that he is having trouble with

581
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: his decision making right now well or or what's going

582
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: to happen to his bank account, and maybe that completely

583
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: maybe the agent needed to give a little more information

584
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: about the consequences attack right now. They can't go after

585
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: his three point four million dillars. So it was a

586
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: nice move for Brandon Albert. He just pretended to play again. Yeah,

587
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: I think it was a three million dollars anyway. I

588
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: like what Rhoda World called it, a bizarre cat and

589
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: mouse between these two ridiculous entities. It's also silly, grow up,

590
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: Peter Pan. You know, just you know, play out your contract,

591
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Speaker 1: gut cut, but you know retired, No I want back in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just back your signing bonus. You'd be like, hey, guys, listen,

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Speaker 1: um back, I'm feeling good. There's certain to be a

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Speaker 1: certain lack of dignity involved with the process, that's all.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to point fingers. You wanted more dignity

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Speaker 1: involved in all of this, the branded Alberts. You were

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Speaker 1: looking for dignity. You would leave the money behind if

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Speaker 1: my integrity. Really, there's no way, no way. Didn't you

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Speaker 1: didn't you just tell us on a recent episode that

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Speaker 1: you like wandered back into attempt job that you had

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Speaker 1: bolted to get your thirty paycheck. That was different, But

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Speaker 1: that is of yes, that is an efficient uh turning

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Speaker 1: little bit. You got it so it reads a little better. Great,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna blame Erica now? No, no, no, I'm actually saying,

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Speaker 1: if she can help us out with this, you feel

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Speaker 1: upper mantagment potential. The early scouting report. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: move on and talk some Thursday and Friday. Do we

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Speaker 1: want to talk to West now? Already want to say

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Speaker 1: that to the end of the show as well. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna call We're talking to Wes. Yeah, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: to West today. Should do it now? Yeah? He said

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Speaker 1: he had some news for us. Yeah, let's do it because, uh,

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Speaker 1: pull the curtain back. About five minutes before we came

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Speaker 1: up here for the show, West said he had some

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Speaker 1: news and he wanted to uh tell us about it

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. Now we're extremely curious what that news

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Speaker 1: could be. Now I want to I want to speculate here.

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Speaker 1: I hope, I hope it's good news, but it could

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Speaker 1: be anything. Pull the curtain back even farther, pull back

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Speaker 1: a little further. I know what the news is? Everyone here?

638
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: What's what's everyone? These information brokers? I got this? Yeah?

639
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Speaker 1: Do we have? What? Do I hear? West? But I'm

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Speaker 1: just curious who got the school? Um My, my husband,

641
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Speaker 1: do you? I'm John Gonzalez. John Renald Gonzalez four Mar

642
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: twelve is an American sports writer. Was married NFL meda

643
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: broadcaster College Wolf John who was a Piscis resides in

644
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. Okay, that

645
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: all right? West? Are you on the line, buddy? I am.

646
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: I just got out of Colleen's car with her husband. Oh,

647
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Speaker 1: the motorized monster you were in it? I love it.

648
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: I love your car. I've always wanted a deep Yeah,

649
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: it's fun. I really want to get to the news

650
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: from Chris Westling. But why is it called the motorized monster?

651
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: Because it's a it's a four door wrangler, but it's

652
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: stick and so it's just like hulking down the highway,

653
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a beast's oppressive. Yeah, drive stick

654
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: in this day of it, it's not smooth. Yeah, I

655
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: bet all right? West? So you said you have some

656
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: should we call it breaking news? Breaking? Alright? We got

657
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: breaking Flora's yours. But so let me set the stage

658
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Speaker 1: for you a little bit. In the past couple of months,

659
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: since they found the tumor and started radiation and chemotherapy,

660
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: we have no way of knowing how much the tumor

661
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: has shrunk, if it's spread, how how well everything's worked.

662
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: They ran set scans on me Monday, but I haven't heard,

663
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: so I didn't know anything, and we ran an endoscopy today.

664
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Speaker 1: When I came to from the propofile, which puts you under,

665
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: the doctor was crying. What's in a very in a

666
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Speaker 1: very good way. She woke me up, said, the cancer

667
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Speaker 1: is obliterated. Whoa, oh yeah. She her job was to

668
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Speaker 1: go in and tattoo the tumor, so the surgeon confined

669
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Speaker 1: it and there was no tumor to tattoo. She said,

670
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: so as I feel like I'm going to cry right now. Yeah,

671
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: were I called the paramore? She was, She had me

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Speaker 1: a little missy. They used They used the word obliterated, obliterated.

673
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: They also used the word you are going to go

674
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: in and have surgery on Wednesday because they want to

675
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: make sure nothing tiding in the walls or anything like that,

676
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: and then you'll be cured. She's cured twice. That is amazing.

677
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: That's the best news in the history of the Around

678
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. Oh my god, I'm so happy. That's

679
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: the That's the greatest news ever. Like this is. This

680
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: is amazing and we will be able to soon go

681
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: to Hanano together and celebrate. John was talking about Nano

682
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: at least seven or eight times on the way home. Wow,

683
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: that's great. So I mean, where does that rank in

684
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Speaker 1: Chris westling Lifetime good News? I mean, is there anything

685
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: even approaching at I think it ranks right behind a

686
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: few months ago when I found out the cancer had

687
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: not spread and I wasn't going to die in the

688
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, that that feels fair. That feels like

689
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: a fair number one place holder. What was your when

690
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 1: she told you that and she used the word obliterated?

691
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: What went through your mind? It's amazing because so much

692
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: of this has been me reading her face over the

693
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: past few months. Um, when she found the tumor on

694
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: the first endoscopy, there was grave concern, and she's such

695
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: a good doctor, and and I could just see it

696
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: on her face that she was worried. UM. And then

697
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: when a few days later when we ran the test

698
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: and she saw that they had not spread, Um, just

699
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: the relief. And again she was in tears when she

700
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Speaker 1: found out it hadn't spread. And I saw the same

701
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: look on her face today, So I knew it was

702
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: gonna be just great news. But you're still like you're

703
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: coming out of the propofile which puts you under, so

704
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: you're there's still a few cobwebs and I'm trying to

705
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: take it all in and I see her frying but

706
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: also smiling really and and like you think, worst case scenario,

707
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: as poorly as I've been eating and as much kind

708
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: of suffering as I've been going through the past month

709
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: and a half, a lot of things into your mind,

710
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: and you don't know, like how much of it is

711
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: the tumor and how much of it is the radiation

712
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: and the chemo like doing a number on yourselves and

713
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: killing them, and you just don't know why you're suffering.

714
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: So to find out that the chemo and the radiation

715
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: did their job and you were suffering because they did

716
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Speaker 1: their job and it wasn't the tumber like that, to

717
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: me was such a relief. Oh my god, West, I

718
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: want I wish I could give you a big hug

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Speaker 1: right now. Well, John can have a set uh no

720
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: this weekend that Oh my god, Wes, are you at

721
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: all worried that you've rendered the rest of this podcast

722
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: kind of pointless because there's no way to top that,

723
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: like were I don't know how we're going to go

724
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: back into talking about like the Brown's offensive line on

725
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: Thursday night and the Falcons strong side linebacker situation suddenly meaningless.

726
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: I was so bulliant. I just had to share my news,

727
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, I just had to get it out. That's awesome, awesome,

728
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: awesome West. No, that is a great way to send

729
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Speaker 1: yourself into the weekend, as I can imagine h West

730
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: obliterating cancer in a big spot, the biggest spot with

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Speaker 1: just a little been a help from the doctors in

732
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: medicine and technology. You see it your way, I see

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00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: it mine, West. Awesome, that is great news, great news

734
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: for all of us. And uh, we can't wait until

735
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: you knock out the surgery and then yes, Hanano's podcasts

736
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: all the good life stuff. We love you, brother, love you,

737
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 1: guys to love you. But all right, wow, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, just end the show right. I don't even

739
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, we should, we should have done

740
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: this at the end. I'm now an emotional rap, like

741
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: my instinct was there at the end. I didn't know

742
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: the news, so I didn't know it was gonna be

743
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: that great. That's great, John texted me before, and announcement

744
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: at the back is really what's gonna suffer in comparison.

745
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: That's true too. Well. All the people that fast forwarded

746
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: just to hear that, and I missed this announcement and

747
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: tie up bank they get banked allright, Oh my god,

748
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: just hearing West though, tell that story like really got me.

749
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: Great news for the local bar scene. West is back,

750
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: He's ready to spend some cash. Taverns across by still

751
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: a shuddering over the past like three months or so,

752
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: but no business is about to pick up in a

753
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: big way. So yes, that is great news. And let's

754
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: move forward with the show. Listen to be imagine it

755
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: was bad news. We have good news. There's no reason

756
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: to stop the show. We'll just keep rolling. But now

757
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: we're all happy. If anything it can make, it makes

758
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: the preseason more exciting to talk about, because that's what began,

759
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: uh on Thursday night. You know you count the Hall

760
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: of Fame game. I don't count the Fame part of

761
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: the preseason. I didn't really buy into it as part

762
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: of the preseason. You didn't buy into the beginning of

763
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame weekend. Li'sen a great win by the Cowboys,

764
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: really squeaker of a victory over the Arizona Cardinals. But

765
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: now we're come back, come from behind time come back

766
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: in the of Fame game. But I don't care. I

767
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: want to get into the Week one of the preseason proper. Uh.

768
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: So let's go through the games that have been played.

769
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: There were I don't know about seven on Friday, on Thursday,

770
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: and um and one on Wednesday. Let's start. I guess

771
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: we'll just start. Let's just go on. Let's talk about

772
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: the Wednesday game first, because there were some good things

773
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: to take away from that. It was the Texans against

774
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, and uh, everyone wanted to see what

775
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: happened at the quarterback situation. Greg get us going there

776
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: with what you saw behind center for the Texans. Of course,

777
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: the situation Tom Savage. People think that or he's been

778
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: positioned as this guy that could be a real starter

779
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, the team's first round pick. But I think

780
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson just showed it and confirmed everything that you've

781
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: heard about him in training camp that he's a little

782
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: ahead of pace, that a lot of the things that

783
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: you were excited about in terms of, you know, to

784
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: use a terrible word, poise and his decision making just

785
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: kind of looked like, all right, he's ready to play

786
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 1: some NFL quarterback. Wasn't wasn't perfect, but He was fun

787
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: to watch, like you had those superside you know, those

788
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: Alex Smith comparisons going to the draft, and you can

789
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: kind of see that watching him play. He seems like

790
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna be ready to play sooner than later. Yeah,

791
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: I think he absolutely will play this season. The idea

792
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: that that's not going to happen, even it maybe doesn't

793
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: happen at the start, but there's not Tom Savage. Then

794
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: nothing happened with that Texans offense against the Panther starters.

795
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: They Carolina took Houston to town early on. Watson came in.

796
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: He was not facing the starting defense, but I thought

797
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: he extended plays well and he had a nice connection

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00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: with Flipper Anderson's son, Dres. I did not know that historically.

799
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: I I did some research on this guy and found

800
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 1: that out when I watch Humble Breck, when I watched

801
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Speaker 1: Tom Savage. I'm just not a humble break. I'm telling you,

802
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: I did not innately know that. It's good that you

803
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: did the research. Please kind of looks like every other

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00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: kind of I don't want to be mean, but kind

805
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: of stiff backup mediocre quarterback you've ever seen, kind of

806
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: a statue in the pot Savage kind of a statue

807
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: in the pocket, maybe holds a ball too long. Uh,

808
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: maybe could hit the pass every once in a while.

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00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: And then so he leaves the game. And then and

810
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: then the rookie comes in and Watson, I think to him,

811
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: to me, I think it's real chance he's gonna start

812
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: Week one. Just I don't you don't want to make

813
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: snap judgments, but the fact that he came in and

814
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: the way he was able to move in the pocket,

815
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 1: of the way he was able to make plays happen.

816
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: I just thought there was such a big difference to me, uh,

817
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: in seeing how how how the offense just seemed to

818
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: be more lively with Watson behind center over Savage. Yeah,

819
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: there was a little bit more of a pop in

820
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: the offense when you watched it with Watson. I think

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00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: they were able to do a little bit some different

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Speaker 1: things just because of his athleticism. Also, I felt he

823
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: had the ability to he was cool with throwing the

824
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: ball away when there was nothing there, And I think

825
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: that that shows kind of that shows his mature important too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And when I watched with Tom Savage, it was just

827
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: kind of a boring vanilla. Yeah, but it's also you

828
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: know he was like nine for eleven. It's like we

829
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Speaker 1: we always talked about preseason sample size. It's like normally

830
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: a football player plays a whole game and you make

831
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: the value. This is two or three series and one

832
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: of them ended in a touchdown. It's like there was

833
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: I drew nothing from Tom Savage's performance in particular, but

834
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: it was nice to see Deshaun Watson kind of confirm

835
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: all the good things you've heard about it. I really

836
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: doubt he's gonna start Week one. I thought Christian McCaffrey

837
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: look good. He looked sort of you know, you saw

838
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: little bits of what we've been hearing to some degree

839
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: and break free or anything. Uh. Demir Bird looks like

840
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: he could be potentially a deep threat for the Panthers

841
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: and fill that slot for them. I was stunned to

842
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 1: find out that Joe Webb is still playing quarterback. I thought,

843
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: that isn't that amazing years But he went to receiver

844
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: for a while and then I think it was last

845
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 1: year he settled back into like special teams captain slash

846
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: third string quarterback, which is badass. I mean, it's eighth

847
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: year in his career to carve out a career like

848
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: that if you had said that when he was the

849
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: most random playoff starter. I think probably of this decade

850
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: when he was told he was going to start thirty

851
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: minutes before the game and had that terrible performance, It's

852
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: like he's still going strong making that money. But Derek Anderson,

853
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: I think when we talked about our backup QB rankings,

854
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: maybe even knock him up, but not for two. You

855
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: want to take him up, Derek Anderson, just you put

856
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: him in there. He just makes things happen, you know

857
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: he I know, Calvin Benjamin, he brings back Oh my god,

858
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: he looked great. Derrick Anderson brings back glory memories for

859
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: you of the two thousand seven season. Well, that season

860
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: went very south at the end, but there were some

861
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: incredible moments yet. Yeah, Kelvin Benjamin, Yeah he looked good.

862
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: He he lost twenty pounds, by the way, since that

863
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: spring camp practice where he showed up and and Ron

864
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: Rivera said that he was looking heavy. Yeah, he's down.

865
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: He was in the mid two sixties when he reported

866
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: this spring. He's playing in the two forties now. And

867
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: he made a nice catch in traffic for a touchdown

868
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: and kind of looked like maybe the two thousand thirteen,

869
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin, a little bit you were on on on

870
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: you know Twitter at calling out the was it the

871
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: belly truths that you're down on belly truth I'm getting

872
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: the belly truthers gotta And by the way, just so

873
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: you know, Greg uh h Butker hit a fifty one

874
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: yard field goal with four to play in this game,

875
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: but it wasn't enough as the Panthers won seventeen. Are

876
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 1: you tracking that kicker about to get that scored? Big?

877
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: So why on earth do we need to score? The

878
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: Panthers improve to one to know in the preseason Texans

879
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: ball and one heavily. Please let's move on. And by

880
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: the way, I I a shout out despite you know,

881
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 1: Gregg taking shots at me about my insider status. Shout

882
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: out to both Greg and West uh for their right

883
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: ups on Wednesday and Thursday, the winners and losers. You

884
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: gotta check that. Check it out because you're gonna learn

885
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: a lot. See see what we learned. It's just a

886
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: compliment of your work. I'm not looking for anything back.

887
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: Well I'm sure he is, so you better be. You

888
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: better deliver something back verbally before the show wraps. Um

889
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: let's move on to the Friday games, Gregg, since you

890
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: or Thursday games, since you uh did write the what

891
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: we learned? Where do we want to start? Uh? May

892
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: be in order of what jumped out to the most

893
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: on The big story to me was Mitchell Drabinsky because

894
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: the last most people remember him was getting fill ad

895
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: on draft Day by all the people who thought the

896
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: Bears were insane for trading him up. And this is

897
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: a guy we've barely seen play college, and we haven't

898
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: heard too much good or bad in camp, and you

899
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: watch him play on Thursday night, and he was the

900
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: most memorable thing on Thursday Night. I'm not saying he

901
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: was exactly like Dak Prescott a year ago, but he

902
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: basically had a perfect opening statement. Like literally, they had

903
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: no points and just about no first downs in six

904
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: drives before he came in, and he comes in, touchdown, touchdown,

905
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: field goal. He didn't have an incompletion, you know, for

906
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: his first eleven throws, and three or four of those throws,

907
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: especially late in that third drive, the field goal drive.

908
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: There's a third and eight teen where he gets hit

909
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: after the play perfect. There's a couple of throw was

910
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: right on the run, uh, and it's just like, Okay,

911
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: this is a guy that looks like a guy who

912
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: should be drafted in the top five, who's got some talent,

913
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: fun to watch, and suddenly the Bears look. You know,

914
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: there was such a stink on the Bears around this

915
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: whole thing. Tom Pellicero wrote an interesting piece. He that

916
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: that people have started when this happened with Dak Prescott,

917
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: the league executives around the league would start texting him

918
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: saying like this Prescott, guys for real. That that started

919
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: to happen with Trabisky, the people saying he looks in control.

920
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: And there were a couple of plays with him over

921
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: and over. It wasn't like run for your life in

922
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: the wrong direction. It's step up in the pocket, throw

923
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: your throw the ball, and it's on point, throw after throw.

924
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: The accuracy that they talked about was there. There was

925
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: a play where he had to spin into through through

926
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: defenders into a wide open space and the play broke down.

927
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: He spun around and then just ran for a first down.

928
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: He's he's good on his feet. I don't know. It's

929
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: one game, but like I I was expecting a disaster

930
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: from Trabinsky. Yeah, the football concent too because you can't.

931
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do I'm just gonna say it's on

932
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: my radar a little bit. I'm not gonna cast any

933
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: shame on him yet. Actually, but if if you're gonna

934
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden come around and all of a

935
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: sudden love Mitch Drabinsky and be like, oh wow, the

936
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: Bears are doing it. They've really hit on something specially here. Well,

937
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: you better have me a kulpa for burying this team

938
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: for three months without ever seeing the kid take a

939
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: sne us in the room. Should well, but it's too early.

940
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: It's too early to say either way. I think DJ

941
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: points us out every Daniel Jeremiah to point this out

942
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 1: every preseason scouts should never start bragging or taken out

943
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: from preseason performances. There's a lot of like, oh, look,

944
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: they were right. It's like, no, I mean, no one

945
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: knows if blowing over over Blake Bortles. We're all saying

946
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: that we've found like the child at Ben Roethlisberger. You know,

947
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: it's like, I think this Bears fans can be excited like, okay, hey,

948
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: it's this was fun. I was flying back from the

949
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: East coast, so this is the only game that I

950
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: got to watch live, so I watched it pretty closely,

951
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 1: and I was really excited when Rubinsky came in. At

952
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: one point he completed ten straight passes. And this comes

953
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: after Mike Glennon had a rough start to this game.

954
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: He had to pick six and then there was a

955
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: high snap. I mean, Glennon is a pretty tall dude.

956
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: He's like six said no what I'm saying two seconds three,

957
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: And in between those two events we were on him too.

958
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean the contrast is what we were talking about. Bessie. Yeah,

959
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: and Rubinsky came in and all of a sudden it

960
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: turned around. He looked good. And then also there um

961
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: Tyreek Cohen there the running back, had a lot of

962
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: really good plays. I mean he played a little bit

963
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: of everything. He was returning punts, he was carrying the

964
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: ball well. And Adam Shaheen the tight end. I really

965
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: liked him to Glen should should win the starting job,

966
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: you think, at least in week one. But he has

967
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: to be better than he was obviously in this game.

968
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: And if Rabis plays lights out all season and puts

969
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: them in a position where they might they might convince

970
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: themselves to just bail on this. Glenn and thing entirely well,

971
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: there was this belief that, oh, you know, Trobisky is

972
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: the one quarterback that there's no way he'll play this

973
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: season even if felt well Mahomes, yes, but Robinsky was

974
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: packed into that too, that yes, they're sold on Glenn

975
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: and Glenn Glennon is Glennon could be yanked within within

976
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: without the first game of the season. Honestly, Robinsky is

977
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: playing really against like week three Mike Glennon right now,

978
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: because if he just looks good all month, then it

979
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: just makes that least so short. You never know. I mean,

980
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: if you look good, this good all three weeks and

981
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: Glenn and struggled all three weeks, you have to think

982
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: about Fox said John Fox said that one game is

983
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: not gonna change his depth chart. So fear not Mark

984
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: Sanchez fans. He you're still probably ahead of Drabinsky on

985
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,479
Speaker 1: the depth, which is stupid. One of my favorite Greg

986
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: is ms is he really doesn't like Mark Sanche. It's

987
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: not true. Don't play the old veteran in front of

988
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: Siskyo for that matter. I don't, Yeah, I don't. I

989
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: don't even disagree with you, but I do like, you'll

990
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: never miss an opportunity to take. I knew you would

991
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, my boy Mark Sanchez who went into

992
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: Foxboro in January two thousand eleven and one a damn

993
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: playoff game. Yeah, keep rewatching that. That's almost a decade ago.

994
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: Oh you should talk. You're watching your Brown's games from

995
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: one in front of the television. Is Brown's losses a party?

996
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: Nor am I telling you? Wait? Nor am I telling

997
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: you during a podcast? How great like Webster slaughter was?

998
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not used at the softball at the

999
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: softball celebration, true or false? The Drive was being played

1000
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: on at the house. It was, I mean, we were outside,

1001
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: but then we came in and it was on. Yes,

1002
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: and all right, let's just move on getting killed for

1003
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: that in my own house. Let's move on. And by

1004
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: the way, you guys should know that D'Angel Henderson's forty

1005
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: one yard touchdown run with just one forty nine t

1006
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: play lifted the book is not a person. We should

1007
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 1: mention it. Paxson Lynch did not look it. I think

1008
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: making decisions took a while, and it really was a

1009
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: a repeat of all the camp practice reports that we've

1010
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: Broncos want looks fine, looks they want Paxton Lynch to

1011
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: look the way that Trabisky did. So that's where it

1012
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: can be a little different, Like you'd love to see that.

1013
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: Um let's reset the decks here. Six games to still

1014
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: talk about. That's the show. So I'm not saying we

1015
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: should not say things that that aren't our mind. But

1016
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: let's remember those are the two quarterbacks. Good hosting, all right,

1017
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: Let's I don't I would love to just stay here

1018
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: all day, but I know we can't, so let's move

1019
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: on and talk about Uh, Mark, why don't you throw

1020
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: one out there, Colleen, you're on deck? How about little

1021
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: Saints Brown's action? All right? I thought, when it comes

1022
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: to a Cleveland's defense played one of the better preseason

1023
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: games I've seen them playing a long time, the Saint's

1024
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: Brown's game in two thousand seventeen, or like that's your

1025
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: trick bringing up some Jets game that I watched the

1026
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: Shocks or Daily is seven years ago. Give me a break,

1027
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: go ahead. The When it comes to another quarterback of note,

1028
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: I think that Deshaun Kaiser absolutely outplayed Brock Ostwaller. Cleveland's

1029
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: starting offense under Oswiler was was a stillborn operation. It

1030
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: was a disaster, and you know Kaiser. Initially, not a

1031
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: lot happened for I love everything about this place. I

1032
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: love being a Brown and I'm just very thankful to

1033
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: be here. Well, he's lucky he's there because I'm not

1034
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: sure where he's going to be on that depth chart

1035
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: come the season because Kaiser, again it's a preseason game,

1036
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: he was not facing starters. Impressive night. I thought he

1037
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: he showed number one. His arm strength is something that

1038
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: I can't really think of a Brown's quarterback having in

1039
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: a long long time. Look like Big Ben. I mean,

1040
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, that's against third or four streak.

1041
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: Give me a break. It doesn't matter who you're against.

1042
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: When you're dodging people in the pocket and then pump

1043
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: faking a guy and owing at sixty five yards, that's

1044
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: his talent. Yeah, it was not nearly as clean as

1045
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: as what we saw from Trabisky, but I think that

1046
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: he's a different type of quarterback number one, and he

1047
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: he moved that offense to down the down the field

1048
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: multiple times at the end of the game. It was

1049
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: a weird site for a Brown's fantasy. It was the

1050
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: same thing when I was watching the Texans, same thing,

1051
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: same experience in my mind, which was all right. They

1052
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: got the guy starting who was completely uninspiring and it

1053
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 1: is just another guy. And then you've got the kid

1054
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 1: who's making things happen and looks exciting, and you want

1055
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: to make sure you bring these guys along at the

1056
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: right patient want to throw him into quickly. But if

1057
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: you're the Browns, you have to be thinking of yourself.

1058
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: If this guy continues to make wild plays, then Brock

1059
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: Oswelder is gonna continue to be Brock Ostwalder. Do you

1060
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: just go for it? In week one, Hugh Jackson wants

1061
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: him to be their quarterback of the future. Today, I

1062
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: don't know what will happen. Well, one quick note, Alvin Kamar,

1063
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: I thought for the Saints looked awesome, shredded Cleveland's defense,

1064
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: and kim Irvin Cleveland's first round draft pick from a

1065
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I honestly think he's a cut candidate.

1066
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: He was an absolute mess. You can't have Brock at

1067
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: left house, can't have Brock starting games. It's just so.

1068
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: It would just be so depressing when he's worked him

1069
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: staff out of the games. After the games, he's saying

1070
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,959
Speaker 1: things like this could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure

1071
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: in the history of the game, no ball has ever

1072
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: been completed that was thrown out of bounds. I'm gonna

1073
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: miss this guy when he's gone. That was a joke,

1074
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: like that was his version joke or something. But he

1075
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: also was pointing out that he couldn't throw the ball

1076
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: in bounce, which isn't a good things problem. Congratulations Mark

1077
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: for what that's a That was a fun game to

1078
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: watch as the brownsman, wasn't it. You've got a quarterback.

1079
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: I I mean, I honestly and well, I don't know

1080
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: if either of those things are true. It was it

1081
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: was fun to some degree. I don't know if I

1082
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: have a quarterback yet, Conny, I was saying, to move

1083
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: on to the next game. No, I was just gonna say,

1084
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett looked as good as advertised, not that anybody

1085
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: was expecting him to do anything less, but he disrupted

1086
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: some plays and and look good out there. That kids

1087
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: got a motor. Alright, you're right, um, I'm gonna go

1088
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: with the Bills and the Vikings. All right, bills, bikes.

1089
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: What is your big takeaway? So with that, I just

1090
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: thought it was funny because Tyrod Taylor, he the first

1091
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: three passes were to Sammy Watkins all completions, and I

1092
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: feel like they were setting this up for the trade, like, hey,

1093
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: look at Sammy's healthy, he's feeling good, he's catching balls.

1094
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: I think they were. I think they were exactly when

1095
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: they did it too. I think I think they obviously

1096
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: had worked on this trade. And Jordan Matthews got a

1097
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: lot of targets. I know that that was Biden so

1098
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: sad as Bills fans were going crazy to watch Sammy Watkins,

1099
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, So it was that. And then McCoy's backup,

1100
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams. He he looked really good too on some

1101
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: of those run familiar name shout out Spicy Rack. Now

1102
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: is this guy spicy? He left with the hamstring injury.

1103
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how serious, fine, but he was running

1104
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: well in Spice Rack. And when Spice Arc had his

1105
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: complete talking about obliteration and obliteration of his potential podcast

1106
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: career when he elta down last year on our airwaves,

1107
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: he did manage to sputter out that Jonathan Williams was

1108
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: a guy to watch on the Bills or I guess

1109
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: he wasn't on the Bills yet. Was he on the

1110
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: Bills at that point? Was this a pre draft, spicy

1111
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: period draft. It doesn't really matter. He likes he likes

1112
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams. Lets see if we see more from you

1113
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: look at yeah, because that that position is pretty thin

1114
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: and that's a run first offense. So I mean he

1115
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: looked good. I am a concern about Sam Bradford got

1116
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: sacked big, He got destroyed twice in two series. And

1117
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: that line which was such an issue last year, it

1118
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: was injury related to some degree. I wonder if it's

1119
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: that much better, um little housekeeping real quick. Jordan Payton

1120
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: touchdown pass from Kaiser. The Browns won that game one

1121
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: and over the b and that we had moved on

1122
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: and but you just have to get that score and

1123
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: get score. And in this game that we're talking about now,

1124
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: Desmond Lewis is one yard touchdown reception from Nathan Peterman

1125
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: which was followed by an Austin reg how kick gave

1126
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: the Vikings of seventeen ten victory over so a tough

1127
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: couple of days. We're going extra points now, added any

1128
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: other any other thoughts from that game before we move on.

1129
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: I think Dalvin Cook is an interesting pass catching back.

1130
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't totally sold on him running the ball. But

1131
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: I just want to see more moving on Greg throws

1132
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: the game. We got four more to get to do

1133
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: you need help here they are, I'll do it. I'll

1134
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: do a one quick point off of Eagles Packers, which

1135
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: is that Time Montgomery had reportedly had fumbling troubles throughout

1136
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: training camp. Has been some buzz that Jamal Williams from

1137
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: Sydney's Zone b y U was coming on fast and

1138
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: maybe taking some carries away, and Time Montgomery lost the

1139
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: fumble on his second carry of the preseason, so you

1140
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: would think this is starting to be a problem for

1141
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: a guy who also is known not to be too

1142
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: great at pass protection. So that's I love watching Time Montgomery,

1143
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: but that's a little bit of a caution for all

1144
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: the fantasy buzz that he's getting. I think that's fair.

1145
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: Dark Barnett also looked really good in that game, solely

1146
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: as soon as I came in, he bombarded me with highlights.

1147
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: Go to my Twitter look at this, But he did.

1148
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: He did really look good. You know it's August. You

1149
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: know it's August. When Matt mcgloyan throws the ball forty

1150
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: two times, it wasn't odd for less than five yards

1151
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: per temp by boy So Maddie not really lighting it up.

1152
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: Nine Packers victory. Uh. Let's take a look at Atlanta Miami,

1153
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: Atlanta Miami. It looks like Dolphins second rounder ray Kwon

1154
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: McMillan his knee injury. Uh, it appeared to be pretty serious.

1155
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened early, and I think he

1156
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: has a torn to a c L if I'm not mistaken. Yes,

1157
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: he is expected to miss the season with the torn

1158
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: a c L. So that's that's a big tough news

1159
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: for him. Not overall for the game so far that team,

1160
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: but the position that could be a weakness. Plus, you know,

1161
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: named after kuon the chef for real interest. I don't

1162
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: know that for sure. Oh, I think I think so.

1163
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you A. I looked it up at

1164
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 1: the time and I was like, WHOA is he named

1165
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: after ray Que? And I think the answers. Yes. We

1166
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: saw Matt Ryan for one series for the Falcons and

1167
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: uh three for three thirty two yards and a touchdown.

1168
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: I think they converted to DeVonta Freeman on a fourth

1169
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: and one for a touchdown, so they got the offense

1170
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: in there. They do their work. Matt Moore one attempt

1171
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins. I guess that surprised me a little bit.

1172
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: But they're trying to get a look at their a

1173
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: lot of Brandon Dowdy. Last night, there's a big Dowdy party.

1174
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: Tough week for Jalen Collins, got suspended ten games and

1175
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: then gave up a ninety nine and touchdown to like

1176
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: a third Stringcume. Not great. More bad news for the

1177
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: Falcons they fell twenty mammy, outscoring the Falcons thirteen points

1178
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarters. That something, Hey, this could be

1179
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: a tough out your games, dan Quinn, this could be

1180
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: a tough one to bounce back from. All right. Also,

1181
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: U around the league, let's talk about the Jacksonville Jaguars

1182
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: in New England A pitch. Tell me a little bit

1183
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: what you saw from Blake Bordles, Greg Rosenthal. Not much

1184
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: good or bad. He wasn't in long enough. It was

1185
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: just kind of there. It would be my my Boardles assessment.

1186
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: And then Jimmy g I learned that some of the

1187
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: Patriots homers who are kind of like it was a

1188
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: sponsorship slash announcer. I was confused what was going on.

1189
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: He's called game Day Garoppolo. Apparently he's okay in practice,

1190
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: but put him on game day and Jimmy's g's gonna inspire.

1191
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: But Dion Lewis look good. How about Leonard Fournette, Man,

1192
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm into some Leonard Fournette. Yeah, he thinks he's gonna

1193
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: lead the league in rushing. He's a load. I mean

1194
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: they that coach wants to run the ball like roughly

1195
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: fifty seven times a game. So it's it feels possibly

1196
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: and they and they did in that game. They ran

1197
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: the ball twice as much as they threw it. They

1198
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: were they were using on fourth down. He plod right

1199
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: through the Patriots like an eight yard game? Was Rex

1200
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Gino Smith esque in that Monday night game? Eighteen

1201
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: pass attempts for the entire game in a preseason game.

1202
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know if Stuck Road sending messages in

1203
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: Week one of the preseason about they scored thirty one?

1204
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: They did? I think that was more than enough. What

1205
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: about Austin car That's true, another nifty White for New

1206
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: England to go up and down the field with undrafted

1207
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: and he made some really good catches he's been making,

1208
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: Like the Patriots fans are convinced this is like the

1209
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: next West Welker and he did, you know, having probably

1210
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: the play of the night, I would say was his

1211
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: touchdown catches skying. It was amazing. Yeah. Um, but guess what.

1212
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: Guess what, it wasn't enough because the Jaguars held on

1213
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: for a thirty one four victory over the Paths. So

1214
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: the Paths fall to and one clearly dropping a home game,

1215
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: which is significant. West predicted they would fall in the preseason.

1216
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: He was not wrong. That's true. That's true. And by

1217
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: the way, it just encourages me. Now there will be

1218
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: at least fourteen listeners of the show that are gonna

1219
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: think that I'm being serious about the scores. Uh, well,

1220
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: you're right, very seriously, you are the New England a

1221
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: bad start to this season. Only Washington in Baltimore. I

1222
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: call it the Battle of the Beltway, but it wasn't

1223
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: much of a battle. The Ravens with three win cruising

1224
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: to a victory. And if you're again, if you're still

1225
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: on the Kaepernick watch, which seems kind of to be

1226
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: an exhausting task, uh here in the Ravens nest. Uh.

1227
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett again does not look like a competent quarterback

1228
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: on any level. Um completed half Hiss passes fifty eight

1229
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: yards about three yards per attempt. So I don't know,

1230
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know what else when at one point

1231
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: the Ravens have to say to themselves are starting quarterback

1232
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,439
Speaker 1: has a back injury. Uh, And those things can crop

1233
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: up at any time, especially when people start getting hit.

1234
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: Mr Flacco. We gotta get somebody else in there. Yeah.

1235
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 1: By the way, it seems like a place Kaepernick should land.

1236
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: Remember it was supposed to be three to six weeks

1237
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: for Flacco from right from the time of the injury,

1238
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: which was mid to early July. We're now in mid

1239
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: to early August, so it's been a solid month and

1240
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: he's not practiced at all. One thing in that game,

1241
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean the Redskins Kirk Cousins nearly throws a pick

1242
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: right out of the gate to Eric Weddle, gets hammered

1243
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: on a sack. Later on, this team could not run

1244
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: the ball against Baltimore. Their offensive line got completely controlled

1245
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: by the Ravens from start to finish two point two

1246
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: yards per carry. Rob Kelly got destroyed. None of these

1247
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: guys that the Redskins were so out of sink and

1248
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: in a Washington Post writer noted that their camp has

1249
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: been very luxurious, very kind of easy going and low key,

1250
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 1: and they kind of called him out and said, time

1251
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: to turn it around. Cupcake. You don't want to get cupcake. Hey,

1252
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: numbers don't lie. Three, I mean toughen up. Small subplot,

1253
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: I know, we gotta go. Scott mcgluwen has a Twitter

1254
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: account which I highly recompen. It's great and very interact.

1255
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: One of my favorite subplots is he he does not

1256
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: miss an opportunity to talk about Matt Jones as a

1257
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: future over and over and over on his Twitter an

1258
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: get Matt Jones on the field. He's gonna be a star.

1259
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: I asked him a question. He did not respond, Well,

1260
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: I've been aid you ask don't give up, keep firing away.

1261
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: It was Kaiser related. I believe it was like at

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Speaker 1: one in the morning, it's that you have a good

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Speaker 1: relationship with Bernie Kozar. Now that's a lot of effort

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Speaker 1: on your part and eventually very organic. Actually was it

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Speaker 1: very organic? It wasn't like at the tweets every day

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Speaker 1: to Bernie until you no, just completely sort of a

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Speaker 1: natural human friendship. I thought you guys might be close

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Speaker 1: to actually like grabbing a beer well, roughly two thousand

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Speaker 1: miles away. But outside of that, yes, it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: Uh So the rest of the games are coming up

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Speaker 1: on Saturday and Sunday, Tonight, Friday to Friday as well.

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Speaker 1: We keep on getting the days mixed up, a lot

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Speaker 1: of games. Yeah, three games today, and you know that

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Speaker 1: the Lions bring up the rear. Uh they're the last

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Speaker 1: team and it was the Cults to to start the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Connected outs people the old Lions taking some naps under

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Speaker 1: the tree in the jungle. Is that what's happening? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad they're actually on the week one schedule. Put

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Speaker 1: it that way. No, you really sniff this one out.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know you have an issue with their

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Speaker 1: training camp schedule and how they've started kind they float

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Speaker 1: whenever they felt Okay, I'm with you, I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: okay you and are you involved in this as well?

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01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: I pointed out that their preseason finale was Sunday because

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Speaker 1: that should remind Dan they weren't allowed to go to

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Speaker 1: training campus earlier some other team. I think Lions fans

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Speaker 1: would get on board with this. How about show some

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Speaker 1: efforts start winning some games? Please? Yeah, thank you, Mark,

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Speaker 1: But one playoff wins. Oh, check that box, check that box.

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Speaker 1: It's going on. I don't know. All right, So that's

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Speaker 1: the preseason talk for today before we get out of here. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's been teased, it's been promised. Um, big announcement. It's

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Speaker 1: a big one, all right, So I think West already

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Speaker 1: got that honor today. But well it's not the biggest announcement.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a pretty big announcement still. In fact,

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Speaker 1: now that you think about it, maybe Wes, we should

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Speaker 1: have used this music on West. Look you do sometimes

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Speaker 1: I had no idea. All right, here we go. Here's

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Speaker 1: the big announcement. We've been talking about the um subreddit,

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Speaker 1: the big five thousand announcement, and uh, the five thousand

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Speaker 1: subscriber on the subreddit, we wanted to give him a prize, uh,

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01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: but then we realized there was no way to tell

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01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: who the five thousand subscriber was. Uh. Kind of failed there,

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01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: and then it swelled to over six thousand. Now, so

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01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna do. We're gonna do a contest.

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a contest that everyone on the subreddit could

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01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: potentially be involved with everyone on it. You don't have

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01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: to be in the first five thousand. You don't have

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01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: to be the first person or the six thousand person.

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Speaker 1: You can be anybody out there. You're gonna be anybody,

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Speaker 1: and these are This is how we're gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: Each of the heroes are going to pick ten names

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Speaker 1: from the subred to ten handles from the sub subreddit

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Speaker 1: and at random or anyway you want. Really, you guys

1315
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: can tweet us if you want to be on our

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Speaker 1: our team. Okay, um, yeah, yeah you can. You can

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01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: do a um basic completely on chance, just step duck

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01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 1: in there and grab names or you could you know,

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01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: pick people that you like or comments you're like, oh

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Speaker 1: that person deserves it. Uh, this music is more or

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Speaker 1: confusing to my brain than actual You can send us sifts. Yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 1: where was I? So each of us will pick ten

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Speaker 1: user names, ten handles until we have fifty, so the

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Speaker 1: four of us here and West, of course, of those fifty,

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Speaker 1: they're chosen, we will now then we will then take

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Speaker 1: those names, jumble them up, and then have a basically

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Speaker 1: a draft on her and uh the first person obviously

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Speaker 1: that's up will then be asked onto the show to

1329
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: do a little around the NFL podcast Slash NFL trivia, UM,

1330
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: four questions, you gotta get all four right, and it's

1331
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Speaker 1: a mixture again of NFL trivia, end of podcast history trivia. UM,

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Speaker 1: the first person and we'll keep going until we find someone.

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Speaker 1: It could be the first person gets four in a

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Speaker 1: row and they're the winner. Or hell, it could go

1335
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Speaker 1: to person person. We would have to take it down

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Speaker 1: the drawing potentially hopefully not. That would be terrible. Um. Yeah,

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: if we were doing that weekly and this this is

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01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: already on Greg's right, right, but no, it's not that

1339
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: that would take us into the two thou eighteen season,

1340
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Speaker 1: which seems a bit much. That would be terrible. But

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Speaker 1: part of this is recounting on you the listeners to

1342
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: be okay at trivia and things of that nature. But

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01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: coming up with the questions we all worked out okay. Um,

1344
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: but so yeah, we'll we'll we'll go through and then

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Speaker 1: the winner, first person to get four questions right once

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01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: you get on the air, UM, we'll get the grand prize.

1347
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Speaker 1: Grand prize. We're still working out what the grand prize is.

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Speaker 1: We're going to try to make it something could be

1349
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: sexy though, could be sexy, could be highly underwhelming. We're

1350
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: working on the details of that right now. But this

1351
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: is going on. It's not gonna start yet. There are meetings, corpo, conversations,

1352
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: phone trying. It's genuinely happening. So how do you get involved? Oh,

1353
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm not on the subreddit? How do you know I

1354
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: want to be involved? Well, figure it out, bro or lady.

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Speaker 1: Sign up for the subreddit. Anybody can do it. You

1356
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: can still get in right now. So, uh, we'll be

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Speaker 1: doing the drawing at some point, uh, in the new

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01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 1: near future, I would believe. So if you are interested

1359
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: and potentially being on the show and win winning the

1360
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: grand prize, uh, subreddit grand prize, then sign up for

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01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: the subreddit and then maybe, just maybe you'll be on

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Speaker 1: the airwaves there. Can I submit myself? Cannot? Okay, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the prize is. You would have to

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Speaker 1: renounce your hero rights to do so. Okay, it's kind

1365
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: of like a Superman. Maybe you'd be fine doing that too,

1366
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Speaker 1: So that's no, no, no, I won't remember in Superman too,

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Speaker 1: when Superman renounced his superpowers for love, he made that decision.

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Speaker 1: You could do something similar, got punched out in an

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Speaker 1: It could be coming. Colleen's got a lot of jobs

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Speaker 1: coming up with this two thousand seventeen season. Her star

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Speaker 1: is rising. It might it might be eclipsing this little

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Speaker 1: studio here. No way, might be. I'm just like a

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01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: new face of NFL network basically to our left. This

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Speaker 1: might be in the studio my favorite thing I do here. Well,

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Speaker 1: we we love to have you here, Kenny bugs Um,

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01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: all right, so there you go. It was. It was

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Speaker 1: a combo like like Connie Box versatile, you know, tiny Fox.

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01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: All right, all right, everyone else is on board with us. Oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, before we go, Oh, okay, go ahead, No,

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Speaker 1: that was it. Before we go. I just want to

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Speaker 1: say that I was really really close to ordering a

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Speaker 1: clown to the Shield celebration party. But there were two

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Speaker 1: things that held me back. One, I was about to

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Speaker 1: get on a flight, and I'm I was afraid of

1385
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Speaker 1: going down clown like wormholes, a little bit rabbit holes,

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Speaker 1: because like it is a little bit creepy. And also

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Speaker 1: I don't know who's tracking my stuff, and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, if like they see a bunch of like

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Speaker 1: weird clown searches, like all of that comes out, that's weird.

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Speaker 1: And second, and more importantly, I was struggled to follow

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Speaker 1: the logic. They're a little go on, but like if

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Speaker 1: the plane crashes, general paranoia by check paranoia, and also

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Speaker 1: like a little bit of laziness, because I was like,

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Speaker 1: that's even at f And then too, I was a

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Speaker 1: little worried for the clowns safety. If I didn't send

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Speaker 1: the clowns, I would say this, at the state that

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Speaker 1: we were in, by this clown shows up at eight

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Speaker 1: thirty nine o'clock or something, they would have been taken down.

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Speaker 1: I yeah, Colleen is making I hate clowns. I always have.

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Speaker 1: If at the state I was in, by the end

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Speaker 1: of that party, that clown showed up after ten pm,

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Speaker 1: it would have turned into like Jared Leto's face and

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01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: fight club. I wouldn't even by the time I like

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Speaker 1: snapped out of like my rage. Literally, there would be

1405
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Speaker 1: no face left on that clown. And this poor clown

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Speaker 1: would have came in with balloons and games would have

1407
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Speaker 1: been it would have been cruel to it would be

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Speaker 1: a happy clown. That wouldn't be like a scary clow.

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Speaker 1: It would be a happy clown. Well, all clowns are scary. Actually,

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Speaker 1: you're a strange person, and I'm glad that me or both.

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Speaker 1: I'm pointing to you on this one. Yeah, it could

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Speaker 1: have an odd bird, but we like having you around. Colleen,

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Speaker 1: all right, thanks, you should have done it that I know.

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Speaker 1: I know. Well, next time, all right, next time. Indeed. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is Dan hans Is signing off for a quiet storm,

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Speaker 1: tiny Box Boss America and Sally behind the Glass till

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Speaker 1: Monday