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Speaker 1: Oh, Welcome into instant Reaction in Indianapolis Colts podcast, and

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Speaker 1: we are reacting to a tough eighteen to sixteen road

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Speaker 1: loss for the Indianapolis Colts as they fall to the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks and they now fall to eight and six

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Speaker 1: on the season. I am Casey Valier, joined as always

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Speaker 1: by Colts Ring of Honor wide receiver Bill Brooks and

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Speaker 1: Bill Man. In the NFL, there are no moral victories.

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares for you, regardless of the outcome.

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna feel sorry for you. But man, this

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Speaker 2: is a tough one when you think.

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Speaker 1: About all of the circumstances that went into this game

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Speaker 1: and how well I think the Colts really played for

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Speaker 1: an entire sixty minute ballgame.

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Speaker 2: This one's a tough one to swallow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to swallow when you're going into a

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Speaker 3: game knowing how good this team that you're playing, how

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Speaker 3: they have played, and the things they have done up

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Speaker 3: to this point in the season, and you going there

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Speaker 3: into a hospit environment and you know, for the first half, offensively,

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Speaker 3: you control the time possession, you move the ball up

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Speaker 3: and down the field, and the defense does his job,

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Speaker 3: holding him to field goals and not scoring in points

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Speaker 3: and then you still come up short. That's tough and

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Speaker 3: it hurts.

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Speaker 1: No absolutely, And like I said, I mean, there are

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Speaker 1: no moral victories and nobody's gonna feel sorry for you.

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Speaker 1: But that is a tough one and therefore it's a

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Speaker 1: Colts loss. But there are a lot of areas that

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Speaker 1: I really wanted to highlight today because I feel like

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Speaker 1: for the most part, it was a pretty positive game.

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Speaker 1: The outcome wasn't where you wanted it to be, but

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of positives. And it's only fitting

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Speaker 1: to kind of start where the conversation has kind of

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Speaker 1: been all week, and that is Philip Rivers getting his

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Speaker 1: first start in the NFL since retiring five years ago.

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Speaker 1: And I thought he had good command of the offense.

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Speaker 1: Now this is an offense he knows very very well.

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Speaker 1: Him and Shane Steichen, they are essentially like two guys

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Speaker 1: with the same brain. So there was never a question

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Speaker 1: of how well he would pick up this offense after,

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Speaker 1: you know, not playing in the NFL for five years.

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Speaker 1: But he completed sixty six percent of his passes. Now

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Speaker 1: I know it's only one hundred and twenty passing yards.

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Speaker 1: Did have a touchdown in that interception at the end

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Speaker 1: when you're trying to push the ball down the field

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Speaker 2: So I knew that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe coming into it, it wasn't going to be like

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Speaker 1: an overwhelming stat line. But regardless of that, I thought

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Speaker 1: he had really good offensive rhythm, especially early, but throughout,

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Speaker 1: I thought he had good command of the offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought he had a good command of the offense,

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Speaker 3: definitely putting him in the right plays when needed to

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Speaker 3: be and executing the plays that were called and getting

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Speaker 3: the ball out fairly quickly. He did take a couple

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Speaker 3: of hits, and you know, I wanted to see how

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Speaker 3: he responded after those hits, and he got back up

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Speaker 3: and you know, just like the pheld rivers I remember

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Speaker 3: in his postgame press conference he said that, you know what,

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Speaker 3: he kind of missed that getting hit and getting back

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Speaker 3: kind of made him feel pretty good. And uh, that's

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Speaker 3: a little different for me to hear that, because I

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Speaker 3: don't like getting hit at all, So but uh, he

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Speaker 3: enjoyed that and uh, you know, for him to get

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Speaker 3: of the game for five years. I thought he did

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Speaker 3: a pretty good job getting the ball out. There's I

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Speaker 3: think there's one play with Josh Downs that they had

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Speaker 3: a little miscommunication. I think he got the ball a

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Speaker 3: up that early. So that's the thing that they'll work

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Speaker 3: get that worked out. But he did some nice things

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Speaker 3: and you know, typical like in this offense, you use

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Speaker 3: all your weapons, and I thought he uses all all

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I think we're gonna highlight a majority of

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Speaker 1: Ryman right before halftime, so Luke Tanuda, who hadn't taken

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Speaker 1: against a defense who had one gotten a lot of

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Speaker 1: So yes, there was some pressure, and yes he took

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Speaker 1: some hits, but for the most part against the Seattle

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when both your tackles go out and you go

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Speaker 3: helping to open up some holes for Jonathan Taylor. No,

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor's average wasn't that great three point five, but

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Speaker 3: thought he did a good job of toting the rock,

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Speaker 3: getting some yards, getting some tough yards there, and as

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Speaker 3: well as Abdullah, not a lot of carries, not a

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Speaker 3: he did something some special things out there for the

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Speaker 3: team to give JT a little blow there, So that

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely, and that brings up to the point that

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Speaker 2: They stacked the box and.

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Speaker 1: He was still I felt like able to kind of

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Speaker 1: if you will. He also had three receptions for fourteen yards,

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Speaker 1: so yet again another game where he goes over one

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Speaker 1: he didn't have any of those big breakaway runs, wasn't

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Speaker 2: But I thought that he, you know, really put his

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Speaker 1: But then also you mentioned Amer Abdullah, and you know

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Speaker 3: Yes, I did know you talk about Abdullah, you know

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Speaker 3: You know, he had over one hundred total yards, So

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Speaker 3: getting yards, playing well, being that veteran that has leadership

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Speaker 3: So as someone you can count on you can depend

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Speaker 3: good to see Abdullah doing that and having some big

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Speaker 3: nice job, especially knowing that you have a quarterback coming in,

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Speaker 3: You want to have long drive so you know, the

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Speaker 3: Seattle offense couldn't get the ball and then drive down

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Speaker 3: So I thought, you know, it did a nice job

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Speaker 2: Now flipping over the defensive side of the ball. You

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Speaker 1: They were averaging nearly thirty points per game and they're

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Speaker 1: held to eighteen points. But not just eighteen points. It's

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Speaker 1: six field goals not allowing a touchdown in a game

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Speaker 1: where typically you look at the end of the outcome

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Speaker 1: and you don't allow a touchdown, you're more than likely

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Speaker 1: Clearly that was the case in Seattle. Seattle was just

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Speaker 1: And one more thing that was pretty impressive. Seattle is

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Speaker 1: one of the better running teams in all of football.

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Speaker 1: They run the football more than almost any other team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, and the Colts held them to just

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Speaker 1: fifty total rushing yards. Charbonney led them with thirty one,

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Speaker 1: nine carries for seventeen yards. That is one point nine

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Speaker 1: young up and coming running backs in football. They held

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Speaker 1: him at check and they did that without DeForest Buckner upfront.

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Speaker 1: You talk about typically when you're looking at the run defense,

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Speaker 1: for this Colts defense, without DeForest Buckner, those numbers have

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Speaker 1: been a lot higher than what you're seeing that they

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Speaker 1: you see this run defense outpoor. I thought that was very,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he didn't. They didn't get anything going.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Well, final thing I want to mention here, Bill

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Speaker 1: Apologize for waiting until right now, but we have to,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was great to hear the call.

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Speaker 3: here it is, coach is tighten up on that defense.

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Speaker 3: You want to see kickers that can make those types

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Speaker 1: coming off this tough loss in Seattle eighteen sixteen. But Bill,

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Speaker 1: I always appreciate you joining me. It was a tough one.

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Speaker 1: I wish we were talking about a victory. But I

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Speaker 3: Yes, I always look forward to a case. Is good

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's what we're hoping for. It's a big game,

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Speaker 2: That's all fun. We love all of that. I can't

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Speaker 1: See Clow on primetime on a Monday night game. I'm

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Speaker 1: They are ten and four. Another victory this Sunday against

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Speaker 2: Nine ers the next time out.

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Speaker 1: But it'll be the ten and four nine Ers coming

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Speaker 1: from Lucas Oil Stadium on Monday Night Football. But for

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Speaker 2: Eighteen sixteen to the Seahawks in Seattle. Thanks a lot

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