1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: Landon is on the phone today for a first Day 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Kate. 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: So we're about to call Kate in a little while 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: and maybe get him another date if he still wants one. 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: But first, Landon, thanks for coming on the show man. 9 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: How long has it been since you heard from Kate? 10 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: Hey, it's been like a week. I don't know what's 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: going on. 12 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: How many times have you tried to reach out to 13 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: her in that week? 14 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: I like once a day, honestly. 15 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 4: Okay, so you're thinking she's somebody special. Why don't we 16 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 4: go back a little bit and talk about her. So, 17 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: how was your date with her? 18 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 3: Oh? It was amazing. So my cousin owns the wine 19 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: restaurant and we went there and I'll be just got wine, 20 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 3: flights and meals and we slowed dance in the middle 21 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: of the restaurant. Everyone was watching, everyone clapped for us. 22 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: It was really something else. I knew she was a 23 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: bit shy, and honestly, you know, that's kind of type. 24 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 3: I love the shy girls, and I was excited to 25 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: like get her out of the get her out of 26 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: her shell. That's I love doing that. That's I love 27 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 3: to like just bring the shy girls out out showing 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: the world, show them what they're missing. You know how 29 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: we had so much food, and since it was my cousin, 30 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: he even gave us like a dessert sample afterward. It 31 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: was like a four hour meal. 32 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: It was amazing. 33 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 5: Okay, this sounds like a dream or hours. I love 34 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 5: to eat like that. 35 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: But then we haven't spoken for a week since. I 36 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: really don't know what's going on. 37 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 5: What happened at the end of y'all's date, Like, how 38 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 5: did it end? 39 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it ended with a kiss, which I'm pretty 40 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: proud of. But we haven't spoken since. No texting, no call, nothing, nothing. 41 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 5: Do you think it's because she's shy? I mean, you 42 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 5: did say she was a shy girl. 43 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: That's my leading theory. Maybe she's just better in person 44 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: and the texting. 45 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 5: Did anything else happen on the date. 46 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: Besides the dancing and the kiss. She seemed really into me. 47 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: She laughed all my jokes as she ate. I mean, 48 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 3: she's teat, but she can really eat. 49 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: And I just. 50 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: Like a lyric and a song she could really eat. 51 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: I like it. Do you think maybe it was your kiss? 52 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's speaking of too good. I mean 53 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: the way that we danced together. I mean I felt 54 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: like it could translate to the bedroom, you know. 55 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 5: What I mean? 56 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you could dance in a bedroom too, you 57 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: can put on music. Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. 58 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: But then, like I can't figure out why I'm being ghosted, 59 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: you know, just maybe I can't figure out how I 60 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: messed up. Maybe she felt pressure to eat so much 61 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: because I'm a big foodie, you know. Just yeah, maybe 62 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: she will not say anything. 63 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe because you know how like people feel like 64 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 4: they want to keep up with drinking. Oh, so maybe 65 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 4: it's the same idea with food. 66 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, she just didn't want to say anything about maybe 67 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: I don't want to eat, but he's a foodie, so yeah, 68 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 3: she just quietly just went along with it. 69 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: Maybe all right, Well we'll see if we can figure 70 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 2: it out for you man, We'll play a song, come back, 71 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: and then call her see if she'll tell us why 72 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: she's ghosting you, and maybe get to another date. Okay, Okay, 73 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: thank you so much. All right, play a song, come Back, 74 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: Get your first Day follow Up. Next, Landon is on 75 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: the phone and he's getting ghosted by Kate. It's been 76 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: about a week. He hasn't heard anything from her, and 77 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: we're about to call her, get her on the phone 78 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him 79 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: and maybe get him another date. But first, Landon, why 80 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: don't you refresh everybody's memory before we call her? Tell 81 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: us about your date. 82 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we went to my cousin's wine restaurant, drink 83 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: a lot, eight a lot, dance in front of everyone. 84 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: They applauded for us. It was really fun and it 85 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: with a kiss. And I haven't heard from her since. 86 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 5: And she's petite and can eat. 87 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: All right, Well, you ready to go? You're ready to 88 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: call her? 89 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. 90 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. 91 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: Hello. 92 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm I asking to Kate. Please. 93 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: This is she? Who's this Kate? Hi? 94 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 5: How are you? 95 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: My name is Jewbel and I'm on a radio show 96 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: called the Jebel Show. 97 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 5: What's up? 98 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: Kate? 99 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 5: Whole show's here? I'm Nina Hi, and I'm Victoria. 100 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: Hi. 101 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: How are you? 102 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm good? So, I'm sorry, this is a you guys 103 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: are on the radio. 104 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: Yes, and we're calling you because we got an email about. 105 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: You about me? Okay. 106 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: We do a segment on the show. It's called the 107 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: First Date Fall. That's where if you go out with 108 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: someone and then end up ghosting them, that person can 109 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: email us to get you on the phone and ask 110 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: why you're. 111 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: Ghosting Oh, okay, means we. 112 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: Got an email about you because you're ghosting someone. 113 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 114 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: His name is Landon, and Landon really liked you and 115 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: wants to know why you're ghosting him. Would you mind 116 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: telling us? 117 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean Landon is a great guy. I had 118 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: a great time on our date. You know, I really 119 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: liked him, and you know, it was a really fun night, 120 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: different than most dates I've gone on, and it was 121 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: just really great. But you know, I just think we 122 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think we just want different things 123 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: and I just have to protect myself from that. 124 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 5: I think, Okay, what does that mean? 125 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: You know, I just want to protect my heart. I 126 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: think that Landon, you know, he was kind of talking 127 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: about how he's not really ready for a relationship and 128 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: he's looking more for like a romantic sensual experience, not 129 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: really like a full blown commitment, and you know that's fine, 130 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, but I really want romance and experiences, but 131 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: I want to build something with someone. You know, I'm 132 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: not in a huge rush to be in a relationship, 133 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 1: but I don't really feel comfortable with like the non 134 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: committal mentality personally. 135 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 5: Did you guys have that conversation like he said that 136 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 5: to you. 137 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: I mean he had said, you know that he just 138 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: wants like romantic experiences, but he had said he wasn't 139 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: really looking for like a like a full blown commitment, 140 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: which is you know, I get it. I had a 141 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: great time on our date. I didn't think that's what 142 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: our date was for until we met. I thought we 143 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: were looking for the same thing. So I was like 144 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: taken off guard. But you know, everyone's looking for what 145 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: they're looking for, and even though we had a fun time, 146 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: it's just we're both looking for different things. It's not 147 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: the right time and place. 148 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 5: Well, good for you knowing exactly what you want. 149 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: Thank you. 150 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: Kate Landon is actually on the phone listening and wants 151 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: to talk to you. 152 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: What hey, Kate high Landing. 153 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: I didn't realize we were on such different paths. We 154 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: had such a good time. I thought it was going. 155 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, no, we had a great time and I really, 156 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely a date I'll never forget. It 157 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: was really fun. I really enjoyed myself. I enjoyed getting 158 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: to know you. It's just I think, you know, our 159 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: path in life is just different right now. 160 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: Oh well, that's the shame. I've kind of wish you 161 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: would have answered my textion we could talk about this. 162 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm open to discussion. 163 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 5: Well then is that true, Landon? Are you not open 164 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 5: to relationship? 165 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, I mean, honestly, I am just looking for 166 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: something casual right now. But I thought she was on 167 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: the same page. We never discussed it, but yeah, maybe, 168 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: I mean, if the timing is right, in the future, 169 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: we could hopefully get back together and make this work. 170 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: What do you think. 171 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I really enjoyed meeting with you. I think 172 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: you're very attractive, and you know, we laughed a lot. 173 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: Maybe in the future, you know, if if if I'm available, 174 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: we could definitely try again. You know, it's just timing 175 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: right now, it doesn't seem like it's on our side, 176 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: that's all. 177 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, like what do I have to do to 178 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: make you say yes? Like, what what do you. 179 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: Need, you know what, that's funny. I just honestly, you're wonderful. 180 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: I had a great time with you. It's just that 181 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: I am looking for something a little more, you know, 182 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: not so much a commitment, you know, commitment with the 183 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: right person, but not something as loose as I guess 184 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: what you're looking for are just like, you know, experiences, 185 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: life experiences. I've had a lot of life experience, and 186 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: you know I'm ready to put that life experience to you. 187 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: So there's I mean, I had a great time. I 188 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: loved your cousin's restaurant. The wine was great, the food 189 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: was amazing. I mean, I had the best time. It's 190 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: just I just don't want something super casual right now. 191 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 4: Landon, do you think that you're wanting something casual? Is 192 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 4: kind of like your defense mechanism too, because it sounds 193 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 4: like you really like Kate. You keep trying to get 194 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 4: her to the wow I feel like Caline. I mean, 195 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: I know, I'm just it's something to ask yourself, you know, 196 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 4: if you just say whoever you hang out with is casual, 197 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 4: then you're protecting your heart too and not really putting 198 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 4: yourself out there. 199 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: I didn't realize I was signing up for a therapy 200 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: session here. Yeah, you know what, I think you may 201 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: have something that is my pet previous relationship, now that 202 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: I think about it, things just went too quickly, and 203 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 3: I think figure I just wanted to take things more 204 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: casual as time, not really look for a commitment yet. 205 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: What if you replace the word casual with slow. 206 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a good observation there. 207 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but we say this all the time. We 208 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 5: are therapists adjacent. 209 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: I definitely would prefer someone who's more sure on themselves, 210 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: Like if you need to experience things to you know, 211 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: feel like you'll be a better partner in the future. 212 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's your path, that's your choice. Like I said, 213 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: I've I've had these experiences and I have a pretty 214 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: clear idea of what I. 215 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: Want and what I'm looking for and how I. 216 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: Want to be treated. And you know, I just I 217 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,479 Speaker 1: want to be a little bit more you know, important 218 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: than just something casual that's you know, not going anywhere, 219 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: because because I'm looking for something that's going to go somewhere. 220 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: Kate, would you like to go on another day with 221 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: land and we'll pay for it? 222 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: No, I don't think so right now, nothing against land 223 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: In land In, You're wonderful again. I had the best time, honestly, 224 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: probably one of my top, like top dates ever. It 225 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: was really like dancing in the restaurant and the people 226 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: like it's stuff out of movies. That was incredible. It's 227 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: just again, I just want something a little bit more serious. 228 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: It's going to go somewhere or ideally go somewhere like 229 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: I felt a deep connection with you, so I would 230 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: not want something casual. But if in the future you 231 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: figure out what you're looking for, and if I happen 232 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: to still be available, you know you have my number. 233 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just keep in touch. We'll touch back and 234 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: forth and stay on each other's right off you 235 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: Will's first date follow up