1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal holle. For me, I'm a man, 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,079 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: be happy. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for day Edo State? 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 3: Is that? 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Whoo whoo? And no Dan and tie Dan Rubinstein. We 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: called it screw it Saturday when we did our preview 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: on the Thursday episode. We had some teams assert themselves 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: in week eleven. We had others escape. We had others 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: who did quite literally screw things up for themselves. There's 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: also the story of our one true god, TJ. Latif 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: of Nebraska, who came in now that Dilan Royola is 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: out for the year, and started what ten of ten 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: in this game against end three. 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: Touchdowns and seventy yards Yeah, I think a couple long 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: touchdowns to Emma Johnson, who was having a terrific all 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: performance all purpose night. I have not watched a single 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: second of this yet, so I look forward to watching 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: this and speaking about it more on the Monday Tuesday 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: look Ahead Slash Extra Thoughts episode. 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: I've got it on in the background here. I'll keep 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: you posting if there is anything significant Nebraska leeds right now. 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back, one and all. I'm ty he is Dan. 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: Week eleven is just about in the books, got a 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: couple of games still going on, but we do have 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: a lot to discuss. It was not one of these 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: weeks that we looked at in advance and said, Aha, 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: look at all these games, it's gonna be crazy. We 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: did not say that. There were a couple that we 31 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: were very excited about that we talked about in great detail, 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: But like a bunch of weeks throughout the course of 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: a college football season, we found ourselves just sort of 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: sitting back and waiting, Yes, let's see what happens. Let's 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: see how these things break. And we have a lot 36 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: to discuss on this episode. So if you are new here, 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: hit follow, hit subscribe. 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Dan, one of the 45 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: things that kept bouncing around in my head, and we 46 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: could talk about this throughout the course of the next 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: hour or so, is the teams that I would like 48 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: to be after week eleven, now that we know what 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: transpired in week eleven, the teams that I would want 50 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: to be would want to root for, just given circumstances 51 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: and schedules and the ways that I think some of 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: these conference races could shake out moving forward. But what 53 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: was your big broad takeaway from what you saw in 54 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: week eleven before we start diving into games. 55 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: That it's possible for a quarterback who leads his team 56 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: in attempts to throw for two feet per attempt, as 57 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: Wisconsin's leading passer did in the stormy, stormy evening in Madison, Wisconsin, 58 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: in a winning effort. So Carter Smith threw four zero 59 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: point seven yards, and my rudimentary math is that that's 60 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: two sandwiches worth per attempt, two foot long subs. That 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: anything is possible, and screw it Saturday, that Yukon can 62 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: beat Duke and have it not affect the ACC race 63 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: at all. Of course, because it is a non conference matchup, 64 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: that we can have LSU looking frisky after firing a coach, 65 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: Auburn looking frisky after firing a coach. 66 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: Across this great. 67 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: Land you know Louisville beats Miami goes down to callen overtime. 68 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: That November is our chaotic month of the sport. And 69 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: frequently we get like the first playoff rankings that come out, 70 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: and people are like, well, here's the path for this team. 71 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: Here's what's going to happen when all these teams are 72 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: eleven and one, And every year we have to say 73 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: the same thing, which is just relax. Everybody's gonna eat 74 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: each other. It's great, and the feast has begun, Tyler, 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: The feast has begun, by the way you bring up 76 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: the Wisconsin win. Yeah, I am starting to believe, genuinely, 77 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: and it has taken me a while to get to 78 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: this point. Maybe I'm just spending too much time down 79 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: here in the basement talking to myself, talking to these walls, 80 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: talking to you. Likely, true, I am legitimately starting to 81 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: believe that I can influence the outcome of football games. 82 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Like I tested it out this week to see 83 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: if I could jink so Ore again, and I did 84 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: because they didn't cover. We got an application to jinks 85 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: Washington and they lost outright to Wisconsin. I posted picks 86 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: out on Twitter or x the everything app whatever we're 87 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: calling it these days, right zhero to four on all 88 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: of those picks. It could just be that I am 89 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: starting to master the dark arts of the jinks that 90 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: truly it has taken me a lifetime to get to 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: this point, But truly it could be profitable if in 92 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: fact this is a continuing trend. So we're going to 93 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: keep doing it. No, I'm not going to jinx Notre 94 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: Dame next week against Pitt. We've had a couple requests 95 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: for that. I am not doing that to myself. But 96 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: if you have other teams that you would like me 97 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: to attempt this on, or if you've got a bet 98 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: or something sobverbal at gmail dot com, I'm now accepting applications. 99 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: You do need to make a donation to Locks of Love. Yes, 100 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: but it actually it worked. It actually worked in Wisconsin one. Yeah. 101 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: I mean, look, we're in the middle of the inauguration 102 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: of Fadraham Lincoln and here he is on the other 103 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: side of this this episode. So what are we doing? 104 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: Where are we starting? What to you jumps out? We 105 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: had a lot of close calls. Obviously earlier in the 106 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: day in the opening window, we had Penn State taking 107 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: Indiana to the finish line, and then Indiana decided to 108 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: win on what will likely be the best catch of 109 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: the season, if not the modern era. Given the circumstance, 110 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: given the given number one receiver being out, given the 111 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: literal millimeter that it took for Indiana to win this 112 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: game with a tow in the end zone. 113 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's where we have to start. That's where 114 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: we have to start, because out number two team. That 115 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: was the game of the early block. And yeah, it's look, 116 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Indiana has had a charms season thus far. They did 117 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: last year. This season they're even better. And clearly, if 118 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: you take a look at what Vegas had to say, 119 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: they were a heavy favorite in this game. They're fourteen 120 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: and a half favorite going into Happy Valley, a Happy 121 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Valley team that's you could argue, a shell of itself 122 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: without a quarterback, without their coach, many of the same players, 123 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: but still it's just they've lost five in a row, 124 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: or they had lost five in a row coming into 125 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: this game, no one was expecting a whole lot. What 126 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: we saw at Penn State was a much more inspired effort, 127 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: and they actually looked pretty good all things considered, thought 128 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 1: Ethan Grunkemeyer. Acquitted himself pretty well. We saw some elements 129 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: of the run game, some of the running backs get 130 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: involved in the passing game, even some wide receivers get involved, 131 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: which you know, it took us to this point in 132 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: the season to get there. Trevor Pania had a really 133 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: nice game for Penn States. So I was watching this yelling, screaming, 134 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: not as loud as Gush Johnson, mind you, but just 135 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: enough to scare the crap out of the dogs with 136 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: pretty much every play that was going down. Towards the 137 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: latter half of this ballgame, Penn State scores late, they 138 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: hold on to a twenty four to twenty lead as 139 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: Indiana gets the ball back, and this materializes into an 140 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: Indiana win. Omar Cooper with an acrobatic toe tap touchdown 141 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: seven yards out thirty six seconds left, gives Indiana the 142 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: dub twenty seven to twenty four. That was after a 143 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: ten play eighty yard drive led by Fernando Mendoza in 144 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: just a minute and fifteen seconds. Speaking of heroics, so 145 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: this one, if you didn't watch the whole thing, it 146 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: ended up being like the last couple of minutes of 147 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: an NBA game where it just gets wild in a hurry, 148 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: and like if you catch the tail end of it, 149 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: you kind of have like the full idea of what 150 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: transpired and what the storylines are going to be. But 151 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: my takeaway was this could end up being a signature 152 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: moment for Indiana they go on to win the Big Ten, 153 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: if they go on to make some sort of run 154 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: in the playoff, it could end up being a signature 155 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: moment for Fernando Mendoza he ends up being a Heisman finalist. 156 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: Or for sure it already is, no matter what his 157 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: season is. Like the play that he made, which, by 158 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: the way, not to fully cut you off, but that's 159 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: what I do sometimes the penultimate play just in the 160 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: way that like some seasons of TV, it's the penultimate 161 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: episode that's the actual killer one. Fernando Mendoza gets absolutely 162 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: shelled as he's releasing it the play before and the 163 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: ball just sort of floats up in the air, and 164 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: you know, if that ball is two yards further towards 165 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: the end zone, the game's over. Yeah, right, that like 166 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: it's a play that happens, right. Indiana was fortunate and 167 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: Penn State was in an unfortunate position that the ball 168 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: went or didn't go where it could have gone, but 169 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: that was not Indiana's season. But that was the game 170 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: floating in the air, and it just happened to fall 171 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: into a safe spot for Indiana. And then Fernando Mendoza 172 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: through that unbelievable ball to Omar Cooper, who was not 173 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: a huge factor in this game, by the way, but 174 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: the biggest factor in the win arguably. But yeah, that's 175 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: you know, when you have these games are that tight, 176 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: it comes down to plays like that, it. 177 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: Does, and Penn State did a good job of getting pressure. 178 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean even that touchdown throw at the end that 179 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: was off his back foot. You know, he wasn't really 180 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: able to step into that one. He just sort of 181 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: lolly popped it out there, and Omar Cooper made a 182 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: hell of a play on it to get the touchdown. 183 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: So look, unless you feel some particular affinity for Wisconsin 184 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: or Perdue down the stretch, Indiana is pretty much on 185 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: a globe path to get to twelve and oh to 186 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: get to that Big Ten title game, most likely against 187 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State. I guess we need to see what transpires 188 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: the rest of the way. Clearly they're going to be 189 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: in the playoff as things stand right now, and it 190 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: just continues. If you're a a Hoosiers fan, it's been 191 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: a remarkable run here and this is frankly the type 192 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: of you know, late game grit that you want to see, 193 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: that you want to see. If there was any question 194 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: that Indiana could do this again, they did it against Iowa. 195 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: They do it again here against Penn State. Did it 196 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: against Oregon too, that game against the road, Yeah, right, 197 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: Like these games were all different in some regard, but 198 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: Indiana has now had a couple instances where we've asked 199 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: some new questions of them to see what they're really 200 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: made of, and they've come through in the clutch. So 201 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: I give them money credit. 202 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's great for Indiana right that there 203 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: are certain buttons you know how to push when it 204 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: comes to the Big Ten championship game, when it comes 205 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: to a playoff matchup, that you are in a tight 206 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 2: game against Ohio State or Alabama or take your pick, 207 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 2: and you have a certain amount of confidence because you 208 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: were able to do this on the road in these 209 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: specific spots, and Fernando Mendoza has come through time after time. 210 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: You don't want to be in this spot if you're Indiana, 211 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: given what Penn State hasn't been able to do recently, 212 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: And honestly, I kind of like the juice for Penn 213 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 2: State because whatever their future is, we've got Grunkemeyer completing 214 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: passes down the field. This is not a half offense. 215 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: Because there was the threat with Trevor Pana. I thought 216 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: Grunk looked pretty good. He made plays in a losing effort. 217 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: And obviously there's going to be a new regime in 218 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: State College, but that they're going to go into whatever 219 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: this new era is with just a little bit of juice, 220 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: right that this is not a locker room. This is 221 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: not a roster that has completely folded. 222 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: Right. 223 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: They were in it laid against Iowa, they were in 224 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: it laid against Indiana, and whatever the future holds, you know, 225 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: there's somewhat of a foundation going into the offseason. 226 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: And on the Penn State side, One other aspect that 227 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: has gone reported among some of the Penn State writers 228 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: that you know, many of whom we know personally. But 229 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: the storyline coming into this game was how little juice 230 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: many of the reporters were picking up in practice this 231 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: week when they talked to players, even the stadium before 232 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: the game. I had some people messaging me that it 233 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: was like a blue white game the spring scrimmage right 234 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: that it just it didn't feel like there was a 235 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: whole lot of juice around this game. And lo and behold, 236 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: they gave it their best. Still the agony continues for 237 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: the Penn State community. It's been like six straight weeks 238 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: of stomach punches now since that Oregon game, and they 239 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: still have yet to beat a power for opponent in 240 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. That's not good, not ideal. It's we're 241 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: in the shadow of Thanksgiving. Yeah. 242 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: By the way, if the friendly folks at Tropicana, if 243 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: you're interested in who's going the juice from the solid 244 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: verbal not a sponsor could be tyne Ey are eager 245 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 2: to talk about all things juice. 246 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: Twenty seven to twenty four, A big boy win for 247 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: Indiana on the road in Happy Valley. Let's stay in 248 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: the big ten though. Let's go to Iowa City, Dan. 249 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: They were about eight minutes left in this one. Oregon 250 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: had a five point lead, Iowa was starting on their 251 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: own seven And I sent a note to you saying, 252 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: here's when Iowa puts together the seven minute drive that 253 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: steals your soul. Sure you did, can confirm and just 254 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: like that. Iowa had a twelve play ninety three yard 255 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: drive that ate up six forty five on the clock. 256 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: It's pretty good by you, and they came away with 257 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: a sixteen to fifteen lead with a minute and fifty 258 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: one seconds left. Like we were chatting throughout the course 259 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: of this game, and the sentiment that I was getting 260 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: from you was, Hey, Oregan's down as top four pass catchers. 261 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: They had some bad breaks. Obviously the weather was terrible, 262 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: but they did run the ball kind of at will. 263 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: They did, they smashed them. It felt like for a 264 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: good chunk of this game that they were the better 265 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: team out there, a great and my sentiment was mostly 266 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: the same, like Oregon ran for two hundred and sixty 267 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: one yards. But the ultimate question that I didn't really 268 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: address directly with you but was bouncing around in my 269 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: head was yeah, but where are the points? Right totally? 270 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: Where were the points? 271 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: Dan? 272 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: Where were the points? 273 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: They were not finishing those drives. Obviously, Dante More had 274 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: an early interception. It was a great play by an 275 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: Iowa dB throwing to like the sixth string receiver, true 276 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: freshman on that play. Again, not an excuse, great play 277 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: from Iowa, but that's where the points were. On that 278 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: specific drive, Dante more tripped over I think either his 279 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: center or the right guard's foot after an interior defensive 280 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: lineman got a quick push and there was a wide 281 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: open tight end running in the end zone on that play. 282 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. 283 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: The Iowa defense made the play on third and five 284 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: or whatever, and Oregon had to settle for three. They 285 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: weren't able to finish some of these drives on that 286 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: final drive, and Iowa dB held an open receiver who 287 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: burned him. That went uncalled. That's okay, it's going to happen. 288 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: You got to fight through. Everybody has penalties that don't 289 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: get called. So ultimately what happened was Mark Ronowski made 290 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: two or three terrific throws, terrific reads wide open a 291 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: couple of times. I think it was a tight end 292 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: once it was a receiver on a big play, and 293 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: Iowa was able to keep drives going. Oregon had some 294 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: untimely questionable penalties for my end, but obviously I'm a 295 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: biased narrator here. Iowa played in a huge game and 296 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: committed zero official penalties, so that's good. They're a team 297 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: that came into this game I think leading the nation 298 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: in lack of penalties, so it is on brand for 299 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: them to play very clean discipline football. But you know, 300 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: in a big game, zero penalties on offensive defense good 301 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: for them. And Oregon was unable to finish some of 302 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: those drives. They got great kicks from Atticus Sappington, their kicker, 303 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: including the game winner with basically no time left. 304 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: Is that his real name? I believe so, Atticus Sappington. 305 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: It sounds like a monopoly piece. 306 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: You know what, if he plays his cards right board 307 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: game reference, it just might be someday. And Oregon with 308 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: a gutty win, a really gutty win. They won the 309 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. They won special teams, which sounds like 310 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: the Iowa formula, but Oregon went to Iowa City. Both 311 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: of the teams had to deal with the same bad 312 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: weather and Dante Moore through an absolute dime on that 313 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: final drive up the I think the the right sideline, 314 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: top sideline, whatever, I don't know where the ball was placed. 315 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: What are big balls throw? That was yes to. 316 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: Malik Benson, but yes, Oregon. Morgan was down their starting 317 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: right tackle. I'm sure Iowa was down key players as well, 318 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: starting right tackle. They're three leading pass catchers after Gary 319 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: Bryant went down early, and it was just a tough, 320 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: hard fought game. I came away very impressed with I 321 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: was resolve in this one. Without consistent offense, they weren't 322 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: able to get anything going on the ground, and Mark 323 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: Ronowski is a tough runner to bring down. He was 324 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 2: able to extend drives with his legs, and Oregon was 325 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: ultimately the better team able to close out the game, 326 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 2: even though they weren't able to close out a number 327 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: of drives. 328 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: I can't always really impressed again with Dante Moore in 329 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: crunch time, and you know, we've seen it a couple 330 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: times this year out of him already. We saw it 331 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: first person when we were at the Penn State game, 332 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: the one that went into overtime, and just how the 333 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: crazy play he made when Oregon got the ball in overtime. 334 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: It does not seem and this is kind of a 335 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: trend for a lot of these young quarterbacks, these first 336 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: time starting quarterbacks. I guess Dante Moore is not a 337 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: first time starter, but first time full time starter with Oregon. 338 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: Let's say we look around college football and a lot 339 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: of these guys who have just gotten the reins this year, 340 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: they step in and I you know, I've talked about 341 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: it here before. They don't seem phased by some of 342 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: these big moments in crunch time. And Dante More, I think, 343 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: is a prime example of that. This is another instance 344 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: where he just seems very cool, calm and collected. He 345 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: knows what needs to go down. He's able to move 346 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: the ball quickly. It doesn't seem like there is any 347 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: kind of panic, it doesn't seem like they're disorganized. It 348 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: seems as though, I mean, I guess that's a sign 349 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: of being well coached, but I also think that's something 350 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: you can't teach, even if you practice it, having the 351 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: ability to like not play outside of yourself, stick in 352 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: the moment, be good at what you're good at, and 353 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: just use your skill set to move the ball down 354 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: the field. He's very good at doing that. Yeah, and 355 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: I was really impressed by him on a you know, 356 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: bad weather day, road environment against a really good defense. 357 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 1: Eighteen to sixteen was your final and true Iowa football fashion. 358 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: We had an eighteen sixteen game, but you know, more 359 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: to the point, like we just discussed with Indiana, these 360 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 1: were two escapes against good teams or good defenses at 361 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 1: least a great on the road, and it's hard to 362 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: come away from these games being anything other than impressed 363 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: for the victors. 364 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: I agree, it was not I ate a whole pizza 365 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: in the third quarter. I stress ate an entire pizza. 366 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: I still don't feel great intestinally at the moment, but 367 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 2: that's what these types of games do. By the way, 368 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: sidebar here. The broadcast was real tough, the CBS broadcast. 369 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: You know, I'm always going to be and we're always 370 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: going to be fans of our our new friend Jenny Dell, 371 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: who did a good job. You know, everybody's just like 372 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: soaking wet on the sideline. It's a whole mess. But 373 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: Garian and Brad and the booth, we're just doing a 374 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 2: whole lot of like, hey man, what a moment, and 375 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: like what are you saying? What are your thoughts? Yeah, 376 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 2: a little bit like goes crazy man, Okay, uh what 377 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: did you think it was? 378 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: A pi? Was there a hold on that play? Was 379 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: his foot in bounds? 380 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: No? 381 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: Just like, man, that was that was Who's to say. 382 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: The thing that I noticed is it seemed like they 383 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: got a little extra money for the drone budget. It 384 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: was like a Netflix movie, how they kept doing the 385 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: drone shots, yes, coming into and out of commercials and 386 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: sometimes in the middle of a series, like we don't 387 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: we don't need these drone shots. Of course, it's a 388 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: beautiful view in Kinnick Stadium. Is is an iconic venue 389 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: in college for sure. Okay, like I'm not this is 390 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: not anything against that, but it was like, why do 391 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: we keep showing the shots here? Yeah? Are we paying 392 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: this guy more than the day rate? And we got 393 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: to get our money's worth for the drone pilot. I 394 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: didn't understand that, but I'm with you. It was. 395 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: It was a tough broadcast, but ultimately I just am am. 396 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: I'm happy that organ was able to come out alive 397 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: and very impressed with how I was able to battle. 398 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: Speaking of IMPI Texas Tech twenty nine BYU seven. 399 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 2: And Man and this was like kind of immediate with Like, 400 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: you watched two minutes of this game, You're like, I 401 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: think I have a good handle on what the rest 402 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: of these four quarters are going to look like. 403 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: It really was, it really was, that was my thought 404 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: while watching this. It was just that Texas Tech felt 405 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: head and shoulders better, and it really wasn't all that close. 406 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: And this was probably most obvious when Texas Tech was 407 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: on defense, because they just completely took away what Byu 408 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: wanted to do on the ground. Now, they did get 409 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: up enough where Byu had to put I think more 410 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: on the arm of Bear Bachmeier, but even still, I 411 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: thought they made him look a lot more like a 412 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: freshman quarterback. And he'll learn, he'll grow. He's obviously had 413 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: a very good season. He went up against a very 414 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: good Texas Tech team that's been solid defensively, in a 415 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: huge shift from what we're used to seeing from Texas Tech, 416 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: but they very much made him look like a freshman quarterback, 417 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: and by You really could not establish any kind of 418 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: momentum here against Tech. I was really impressed by Texas 419 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: Tech and how just how professional an effort it seemed. 420 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: This was, you know, there was no stress here. Oh yeah. 421 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: The thing that stood out to me was just the 422 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: Texas Tech front on defense, especially the offensive excuse me, 423 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: the defensive line, but the linebackers have been making plays 424 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: all year long, obviously Ben Robertson, Jacob Rodriguez making the 425 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: plays that they made, but it was just the BYU 426 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: front was just absolutely overwhelmed, including Bear Bachmeyer. And that's 427 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: okay because kind of everybody has been by Texas Tech's 428 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 2: defensive line, especially this season, which is why you go 429 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: out and overhaul a roster. And this is all a compliment, 430 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 2: by the way, this is all a compliment to Texas Tech. 431 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: They saw a need of improvement and they went out 432 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: and did it. And they made Bear Bachmeyer look his size. 433 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying this to make fun of a 434 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: shorter quarterback, but he is a freshman. He will put 435 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: on weight, he will figure things out. They look like 436 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: they overwhelmed him. 437 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: Obviously. 438 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: L J. 439 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: Martin came back and he has been sort of the 440 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: heartbeat of that offense as well. He was unable to 441 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: do anything on the ground, and ultimately it was you know, 442 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: the BYU defense on the field as much as they were. 443 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: When you know, Baron Morton starts making plays, Cameron Dickie 444 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: starts making plays, the running game in general starts going 445 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: more and more, and the Texas Tech defense just getting 446 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 2: off the field consistently. And so came away super impressed. 447 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: I know game day was there. Patrick Mahomes was in 448 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: the crowd that you know, thirty seven cutaways to him, 449 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: He's earned it he's really good at football. Yeah, but no, 450 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: this was definitely like a very efficient way to silence 451 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: a team. I think BYU should finish the season strong. 452 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: They're not as good as Texas Tech, but it's seeming 453 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: more and more that very few teams are good for 454 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: the Red Raiders. Hope they finished strong because it's nice 455 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 2: to have measuring stick teams in these conferences, and with 456 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: what they were able to do finishing off Utah in 457 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: the close rivalry moment, they're answering a lot of questions 458 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: and they answered a big one with a bigger spotlight 459 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 2: on them today in Lubbock. So came away very impressed. 460 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing that I would push back 461 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: on bear Bachmeier is six to one and a half too, 462 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: is he well, I don't know. 463 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: Does is the whole Texas Tech defensive line like seven 464 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: four three eighty for some reason? 465 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: They just it seemed that way the way that Texas 466 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: Tech played. Yes, they definitely made him appear smaller. He 467 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: also looks like he's ten years old. Maybe that's he 468 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: might be ten years old, but he's not a small 469 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: guy by any stretch. Fair. He was just overmatched in 470 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: this game against a better team, and I think you're right, 471 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: like this was a reality check for BYU. I agree 472 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: this is a compliment towards Texas Tech and what they 473 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: have built, but it is definitely not any kind of 474 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: slight for what BYU has done this year. It's been 475 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: a really good year for BYU. It's still a really 476 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: good team. I do not think the remaining schedule is easy, 477 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: but I do think they will be favored in all 478 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: of their games and if they win out. I tried 479 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: to do the math a little bit before we went 480 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: live here. Of course, this thing is subject change a 481 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: million times over. If they win out, there's a really 482 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: good chance they're going to get a rematch with Texas 483 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: Tech in the Big twelve title game. Sure you know. 484 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, because of what's going on 485 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: in the ACC, which we can talk about next. I mean, 486 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how many playoff teams, how many playoff 487 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: spots are going to be out there for Big twelve teams, 488 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: but it's probably going to be more than we thought 489 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: at the start of the week. So if you're BYU, 490 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: if you're Utah, if you're Texas Tech, I think you 491 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: feel pretty good. Like I said at the very top 492 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: of the show, Which teams would I want to be 493 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: right now? I would definitely love to be Indiana given 494 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: what they've got left on their schedule. I would absolutely 495 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: be thrilled to be Texas Tech given what they've done 496 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: already and what I think they've still got on their 497 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: schedule here. I mean, there's a whole handful of teams 498 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: that you look at and you say, yeah, I would 499 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: love to be some of these teams right now, even BYU. 500 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's a tough schedule, but if you do 501 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: what you need to do, you're going to find yourself 502 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: back in the thick of things before long. So I 503 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: give Texa Tech a ton of credit. Barring any kind 504 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: of wild upset text going eleven and one, they're playing 505 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: for the Big twelve. They're probably making the playoff. I 506 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: think you can pencil them in right now, frankly, but 507 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to get ahead of myself because you know, 508 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: I have this jinxing quality, So let's not go there. 509 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: Let's just say twenty nine to seven was a pretty 510 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: damn good effort from the Red Raiders here. 511 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't hate to be Wake Forest complete a pass. 512 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess maybe sometimes we'll still win. Why 513 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: don't have any guys who are gonna hit doubles? Where 514 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: are we going next? 515 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: Let's go to wake Forest and Virginia next. Okay, okay, 516 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: Top fifteen team goes down. Uva lost sixteen to nine 517 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: to Wake Forest. Wake Forest gives the Who's their first 518 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: conference loss. Virginia came in ranked. Virginia came in in 519 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: control of their acc destiny. Wake's defense kept them out 520 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: of the end zone, held the playmakers in check of 521 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: note Chandler Morris got knocked out of this one in 522 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: the first half didn't help. But ultimately, I think Wake's 523 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: ability to survive in just an ugly way to capitalize 524 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: on special teams like these things had a cumulative effect 525 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: and taking in totality held Virginia down from really getting 526 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: any kind of momentum. And that was sort of the 527 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: story of this one. Like the single biggest play in 528 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: this game, perhaps the turning point, was a bouncing punt 529 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: that was returned eighty eight yards by Carlos Hernandez. That 530 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: was the game's only touchdown. It was in the third quarter. 531 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: That was the dagger, that was it, that was what 532 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: song momentum put this one out of reach. You have 533 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: games like this that end up being ugly. This was 534 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: one of them. And Wake just got the better of 535 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: Virginia by holding them down, by getting the best of 536 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: them on special teams, and you know, by by making 537 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: a commitment here I guess to winning ugly. Yeah. Absolutely. 538 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: Also the stat that was thrown around a bunch was 539 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 2: I think Virginia had fumbled it ten times this season 540 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 2: heading into the game and recovered all of them. They 541 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: lost three tonight. You know, the math is going to 542 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: bounce back as well. So really nice performance from Wake. 543 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, as you mentioned, just nothing on offense and 544 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: scoring the way that they did. 545 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: And. 546 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: It doesn't it doesn't change anything about either one of 547 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: these teams seasons in general, as in terms of like 548 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: how successful we are viewing like this is like the 549 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: third fourth game we're talking about in November, Wake Virginia. 550 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: It's bonkers successful seasons from both of these teams, and 551 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: they earned it. 552 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: Both teams were short of three hundred total yards. In effect, 553 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: this was like a kicking duel. We had some field 554 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: goals in the first half, we had the special teams play. 555 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: Either team could really finish drives, but it was sixteen 556 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: to nine. To your point, you know, UVa's not out 557 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: of this ACC thing. I mean, this definitely puts a 558 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: bit of a dent in their chances of getting to 559 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: that ACC title game. But there's a big game coming 560 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: up next week against Duke. Duke loss, by the way, 561 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: wasn't a conference game you talked about this at the top. 562 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: They lost to Yukon. Yukon, who could go nine and three. 563 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: Yukon's actually half decent, way better than most people realize. 564 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: But this game between Virginia and Duke next week is 565 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of significance on who ends up 566 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: playing for the ACC. So maybe there was a look 567 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: ahead here. Maybe it had something to do with Chandler 568 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: Morris getting knocked out. I'm sure that did not help. 569 00:29:53,760 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: But Wake gets the upset and Cal yeah, with an 570 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: upset of Louisville twenty nine to twenty six in overtime. 571 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: Nine twenty six in overtime. Cal goes for it on 572 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: fourth down, gets the win. A nice day through the 573 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: air for Jks and was it Jacob Dejesuss and Cal 574 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: going on the road. This doesn't happen in the hinter lens. 575 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: Louisville obviously without Isaac Brown struggles through the air with 576 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: Miller Moss to get any sort of pop and juice going, 577 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: and obviously incredibly disappointing if you're Louisville and Justin Wilcox. 578 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: I saw somewhere, I don't remember where. It may have 579 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 2: been our discord or something like you just save his 580 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: job yet again, the unkillable Justin Wilcox at Cal. But impressive, 581 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: absolutely impressive from Cal. And I mean Louisville, season's not over, 582 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 2: but this is, you know, the appetizer. 583 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: In the ACC feast for sure, it is. The season 584 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: is certainly not over. They would need a lot to break, 585 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: I mean a lot to break for them to have 586 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: a shot at playing for the ACC. Oh, I know, 587 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: so I think I think for all intents and purposes, 588 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: some of those like higher level goals that they might 589 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: have had after beating Miami, those go out the window 590 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: with a loss like this. But yeah, this is all 591 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: three losable games, by the way, coming up for Louisville 592 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: and Clemson. Kentucky, who all of a sudden is like 593 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: undead zombie Kentucky blowing out Florida and I believe a 594 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: SMU to round out their schedule. Yeah, so it's it. 595 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna get a little bit murky the deeper we 596 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: get into this thing. But you know, Louisville is still 597 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: a formidable team. They've still got some good wins, and 598 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: obviously what they did in Miami a couple of weeks 599 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: ago is going to have h It's gonna have a 600 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: pretty big impact on how things shake out in the ACC. 601 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: So, but if you're Louisville, you don't want to be like, yes, 602 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: we affect things, just more broadly speaking, No, no, So. 603 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: You don't want that. But I think we're probably at 604 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: the point because of this loss where some of those 605 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: aspirations are done. Sure, look they can't all be Yukon 606 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: Rice Beaten Duke. Yeah, not everybody can be Yukon. Now 607 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: what else jumped out to you? In Week eleven? Bill 608 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: Belichick won debl Sweney one. That's that's nice, just to yeah, 609 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: round out AC if we round out the ACC. We 610 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: had wins by Bill Belichick. We had a win by 611 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: Dabos Sweeney twenty four to ten over Florida State. Clemson 612 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: wasn't control the entire football game. They were control the 613 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: entire football game. Their defense looked really solid, especially in 614 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: the first half. They kept Florida State off balance. They 615 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: limited Florida State's scoring opportunities. Florida State struggled offensively for 616 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: most of the game, scored ten points, which was I 617 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: believe a season low for them. So this is a 618 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: really good job by the Clemson defense that has definitely 619 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: taken some arrows so far this season. Yeah. I thought 620 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: they acquitted themselves quite well. What else do we have here? 621 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: Miami did win, got off to a bit of a 622 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: slow start against Syracuse but ended up winning going away. Yep, 623 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: SMU one. And then I mentioned the Yukon Duke game. 624 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: I can just come back to that for a second. 625 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: This is actually a really good game, please, it was. 626 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: It was a really good game. So Yukon beats Duke 627 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: thirty seven to thirty four. Yukon goes up with about 628 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: two minutes left on a touchdown pass to skylor Bell. 629 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: Duke gets the ball back. They're driving to try and 630 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: tie it. Tell me if you've heard this one before. 631 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: Fumble game over. Yeah, this has sort of been the 632 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: story of Duke season, where they continue to find new 633 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: ways to shoot themselves in the foot. They did it 634 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: again here. Yeah, so maybe there was a little bit 635 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: of a letdown. Look ahead spot, right, they beat Clemson 636 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: a week ago, They've got the big one with Uva 637 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: on deck. I don't this is a on the road. 638 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: Maybe that had something to do with it. Maybe it didn't, 639 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: But Duke did it again where they found a way 640 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: to sort of do the funniest possible thing. Yeah. 641 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: I mean, look, they're in the game, they lose a 642 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 2: turnover battle three to nothing, and yet they're still in 643 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: the game at the end. Driving But yeah, Duke is 644 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: a it's an entertainment team, right that they're going to 645 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: play in all of these games that are super entertaining, 646 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 2: and then there are going to be moments where they 647 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: have the what the second half against Illinois where it's 648 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: just repeated shots into the toes over and over and 649 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: over again and just needs to be cleaned up pretty quickly. 650 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: Let's go over the SEC and talk about the SEC X. 651 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: We've talked about everybody else. Yeah, let's decipher what went 652 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: down because we had a couple of big games that 653 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: were of doubt, right, we had the Georgia Mississippi State game. 654 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: Georgia ends up winning that one forty one. Buddy, They 655 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: stopped them. They stopped them. 656 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 2: It was a really performance from Georgia on the ground. 657 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 2: Nate Fraser had a big day. I thought the play 658 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 2: calling was really good. I just thought it was a 659 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: complete performance, and Mississippi State had just been allowing too 660 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: much on the ground and Georgia, you know, went straight 661 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: for the jugular. 662 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: Mississippi State actually struck first here. They actually shoot first. 663 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: They put together a really solid fourteen play opening drive. 664 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: They were up seven zip right away, but that's when 665 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: the defense clamped down. After that opening touchdown, Georgia just 666 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: like stopped everything Mississippi State wanted to do. I think 667 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: I saw they stopped him on like six straight possessions 668 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: after that opening score. They did give up garbage time scores, 669 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: but that was after the game was sort of out 670 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: of reach. At that point, I thought Georgia responded really, 671 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: really well, and I was really impressed by how they 672 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: just sort of put this one out of reach. They 673 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: out gained Mississippi State by a five sixty seven to 674 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: three to twenty two margin. They dominated time of basse essen. 675 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: They were seven of eight on third downs. They had 676 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: thirty first downs in this game. And I would just 677 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: say more broadly, their offensive line looked really good. Sure, 678 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: they looked really good in this game. So a credit 679 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: to Georgia for what they did. A credit to Texas 680 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: A and M for what they did. Wooh Texas A 681 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: and M. If you are watching the SEC, I don't 682 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 1: care if you're an SEC fan or not. I don't 683 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: care if you're an A and M fan or not. 684 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: If you are watching A and M and you are 685 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: not getting the warm fuzzies, you're doing it wrong. Because 686 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: this is a team that is firing on all cylinders. 687 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: It feels like they are getting better. What they did 688 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: in this game was damn impressive. 689 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 4: You know. 690 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: It was like whatever Miszoo threw at them, and Miszoo 691 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: had its own issues. Well Miszoo couldn't really throw they could, Yeah, 692 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: probably wrong phrasing for me, raising yeah, but like so 693 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: they got mad Zolas. They were obviously a bit hampered, 694 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: But just the ease with which Texas A and M 695 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: was able to assert its dominance in this game, it's 696 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: not only impressive within the context of the matchup, but 697 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: I think it's even more impressive within the context of 698 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: the conference and with the broader National Championship conversation. And 699 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: for all the jokes that we tell about A and 700 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: M finding a way to end up eating four every year, 701 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: and clearly they've been very good at doing they can't 702 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: not this year, Buddy, can't do it this year mathematically speaking, right, 703 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: and moving forward now as we start doing playoff rankings, 704 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: as we start filling out brackets and stuff like that, 705 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a legit championship contender. They have 706 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: not waivered. It's felt that way for most of the season. 707 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: But they just continue to impress me week in and 708 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: week out. Had a couple close games, right, It hasn't 709 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: been perfect the full way through. That's true for everybody, 710 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 1: but this team truly feels to me like they're getting better. 711 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 2: Sure, I agree, there's an unbelievable amount of speed that 712 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: impressed me on both sides of the ball, and the 713 00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: forcing of turnovers with the weird force fumble. It doesn't 714 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 2: mean Matt Zolos is not going to be good eventually. 715 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 2: He was overmatched in this one, obviously. I actually really 716 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 2: liked what Miszoo was able to do on the ground 717 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 2: in this one, all things consider, wasn't much of a threat. 718 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: Jamal Rogers both good. 719 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 2: And that's like if you're gonna look at if you're 720 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 2: gonna nitpick something about Texas A and M, it's sort 721 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 2: of weird slow starts like they had at times today, 722 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,919 Speaker 2: at times against LSU. Obviously things got out of hand 723 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: very quickly after the halftime break against LSU. But yeah, 724 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 2: Miszoo behaved like an elite running team should, and that's 725 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 2: been one area of concern for the Texas A and 726 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 2: M defense, that they can't allow some bigger runs and 727 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 2: to be pushed around a little bit on the ground, 728 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 2: but otherwise the confidence with which Marcel Reid plays, the 729 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 2: speed of all these guys Craver and Bussy and uh 730 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 2: casey concepcion, like I mean, Ruben Owens is busting out 731 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 2: long runs like they're just doing it in a variety 732 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: of ways. And this has been the sort of Mike 733 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: Elko calling card at A and M and beyond. It's 734 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 2: just like seem just gets stronger over the course of games. 735 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 2: Their second halves are incredible, and so I don't know 736 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 2: who's taking advantage. If I mean, you can point to 737 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 2: a lot of things that Texas A and M or 738 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 2: that Texas excuse me, has done well. If you're looking 739 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: forward but running the ball has not been something that's 740 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 2: super impressive. They may not be built specifically to take 741 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 2: advantage of where Texas A and M might be a. 742 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: Little bit vulnerable. 743 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 2: So to take this show on the road to a 744 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 2: tough place to play at Maszoo and immediately leave no 745 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: doubt once things got going, I mean, how do you 746 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 2: come away from this game anything but intrigued by what 747 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 2: A and M ceiling might be? 748 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: December January, Oh my gosh, I just I'm blown away. 749 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: I'm blown away by how good this team looked in 750 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: week eleven and how good they have looked weak in 751 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: and week out. It just feels like they're getting better. 752 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: A and M's another one of those teams I would 753 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,280 Speaker 1: love to be A and M. Right, well, sure, right, yeah, 754 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: even if you end up losing along the way maybe 755 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: to Texas in the rivalry game games in Austin, Right, 756 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: maybe you lose that game. Even if you lose that 757 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: game you finished eleven to one, you may still find 758 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: your way into the SEC title game, depending on what 759 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: happens otherwise. Right, worst case scenario, you're still in the playoff. Sure, 760 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 1: I think A and M is one of these teams 761 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: all miss won forty five zip or something over to 762 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: the Citadel, you know, not just US Citadel to be 763 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: clear to Citadel with the article is yeah, forty nine nothing, 764 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: I believe. I don't even know what the right score is. 765 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: They killed them, it doesn't matter. Yeah, but I would 766 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: love to be A and M and Old Miss right 767 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: now in the SEC because Ole Miss outside of the 768 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: Egg Bowl to close out the year, which maybe could 769 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: get weird. Outside of that Old Miss, the schedule is 770 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: very manageable, and they're one of those teams I think 771 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: you could pencil in they're not going to play for 772 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,439 Speaker 1: the SEC title, but you can make a case that 773 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: that's who cares. They're still going to find their way 774 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: into a playoff. The probably going to be hosting a 775 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: first round game against a team that's beatable. So Ole 776 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: Miss and A and M are in a really advantageous 777 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: spot right now, you know, both of which have continued 778 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: to I think show that they're getting better as well. 779 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: In some way, shape or form. I've I've been really 780 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: impressed by both those sides. Alabama LSU twenty to nine 781 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: was a game? Was your final? Kind of Yeah? How 782 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: do we how do we describe this game? 783 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 2: Some super impressive plays from ty Simpson, but the offense 784 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 2: sort of had fits and starts. I'm not sure what 785 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 2: to make of the Alabama offensive line at the moment, 786 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 2: Like protection seems inconsistent. They still haven't figured out a 787 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: way to work in the run consistently. One week they 788 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 2: can and then the next week it's gone again. I'm 789 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 2: sure there's three to five throws that ty Simpson would 790 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 2: like back. And it's just a good game to have 791 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: some flaws but look really really good. Good because overall 792 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 2: they're a much better team than LSU. But I don't 793 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 2: know having LSU's offensive line, having Garrettnusmeyer, who seems like 794 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 2: he's been beat up all year and just just been 795 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 2: seeing ghosts and he got pulled in this one for MVB. 796 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 2: You know, I think it's a shame in this one 797 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 2: that LSU's really impressive step forward on defense is being wasted. 798 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 2: Like the defense kept them in this game. They got 799 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 2: off the field, they made plays, but ultimately there were 800 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 2: just too many ways for Alabama to succeed. I don't know, 801 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 2: it just I just sort of came away sad for 802 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 2: LSU and happy for Bama that they're flexing new muscles. 803 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. And the LSU thing is kind 804 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: of interesting too, because LSU benched Garrett Nusmeyer yeah and 805 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: went to our guy, Michael van Buren. Yeah. So I 806 00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 1: probably need to get my Kramer van Buren sounds ready 807 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: if this is something that continues for the rest of 808 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: the season or for some period of time. I like him, 809 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: But it was a case of the LSU offense, I think, 810 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: having some opportunities not being able to convert. There was 811 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: like a huge drop late that comes to mind. I mean, 812 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 1: it's we talked about the after Brian factor, right, What 813 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 1: is his team going to look like now that Brian 814 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: Kelly is gone? Well, the play calling change at all? 815 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 1: Will this team feel different now that Kelly's out of 816 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 1: there and it's like Alex Atkins calling plays nine points 817 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: on offense? You know, I don't know if we got 818 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: the after Brian factor the way that we hoped, at 819 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: least from our content standpoint, right. 820 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's also on the other side. I'd 821 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 2: love to see. If we're talking about Texas A and 822 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 2: M getting stronger as the game goes on, we're also 823 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 2: talking about an Alabama team. Did Albama score in the 824 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 2: second half of the Georgia win. To be clear, it 825 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 2: was a win, I don't think they did. I think 826 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 2: they scored three points a gallis against LSU. They need 827 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 2: a furious comeback scoring what a couple touchdowns late against 828 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 2: South Carolina. I'd love to feel more confident in Alabama 829 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 2: heading into this home stretch, knowing that they were figuring 830 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,280 Speaker 2: out how to get stronger and have figured out ways 831 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 2: to adjust against quality defenses. I haven't fully seen that 832 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 2: this season. I think the defense is leading the way. 833 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: The Ty Simpson emergence has been terrific, but I still 834 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,280 Speaker 2: think this is like kind of a work in progress 835 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 2: in terms of game management and flow. 836 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. I do want to 837 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: talk about the Florida Kentucky game briefly, but first we 838 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,720 Speaker 1: got to talk about Vandy beating Auburn in overtime. Oh man, 839 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: So this was a wild offensive shootout that came down 840 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: some clutch plays in the final minute in overtime, with 841 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: again Diego Pavia stepping up as the hero. Right. This 842 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: was like a back and forth showdown. There was a 843 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: combined total of over eleven hundred yards. Dan Vanderbilt ultimately 844 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: is the one that pulls it out. They end up 845 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: winning this one forty five to thirty eight. I guess 846 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: you could say they keep their playoff hopes alive, if 847 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: that's something we even care about. But I think they 848 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: are just a bit intoxicated because of the Vandy story 849 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: this year, with an eight and two record, being four 850 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: and two in the SEC, being way better I think 851 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 1: than many of us thought in the preseason, even on 852 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: the heels of what they did a year ago. This 853 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: has just been a remarkable season. The fourth quarter in 854 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: this game was great. It was a great watch. We 855 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: had a bunch of lead changes, We had plenty of 856 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: moments that were nerve racking. Vandy rallies from a ten 857 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: point deficit. We had Cedric Alexander scoring a touchdown that 858 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: put Vandy ahead by eight I think with eight minutes left, 859 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 1: but then Auburn responds with a touchdown and a two 860 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: point conversion, ends up thirty eight thirty eight at the 861 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,439 Speaker 1: end of regulation. So the key moment in this one 862 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 1: was what happened in overtime, which you've probably seen now 863 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: if you've watched any of the highlights. But Diego Pavi 864 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,240 Speaker 1: ends up connecting with Cole Spence four yard touchdown pass 865 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: that ends up sealing the win. Auburn then can't convert 866 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: when they get a chance at it fourth and seven 867 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: that ends the game. But the story of this one, 868 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: outside of that moment where Pavius scores or throws the 869 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: touchdown pass to Cole Spence, it's Diego pavia He had 870 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy seven total yards and four total touchdowns. Dan, Yes, 871 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: you know it. We've seen this now a couple different 872 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: times with him, where you don't always know how he's 873 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: gonna make his presence felt. You know, maybe in this 874 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: one it was a little bit more apparent, But I 875 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: think back to a game a couple of weeks ago, right, 876 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 1: Like you don't always see it right away with him, 877 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,959 Speaker 1: but he just sort of like grows into a game 878 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: in a way that you can't teach, and that makes 879 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: him really really Dangerou is somebody in the other sidelines, 880 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,720 Speaker 1: Like he just find finds a way, finds a weird 881 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: crevasse to work his way in and impact the game 882 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 1: in a really serious way. 883 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 2: Part of me is convinced, I mean, he has convinced 884 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,720 Speaker 2: me with how good he is that he only knows 885 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 2: between three and seven plays in the playbook, and if 886 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 2: those plays are called, he's gonna nail him. But otherwise 887 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 2: he's like, I don't know what they just called. Let's 888 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 2: let's go do something weird and it usually works. I mean, 889 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 2: the defenses were nowhere in this game to be found. 890 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,959 Speaker 2: I do have a sidebarring about cam Coleman. By the way, Man, 891 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 2: why'd you go to Auburn? I mean I understand that, 892 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 2: like in a weird way, in a backwards way. It 893 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 2: helps to spotlight just how good he is because of 894 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 2: how disadvantaged the Auburn offense has been these past couple 895 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 2: of years with Peyton Thorn and Jackson Arnold and Hugh Freeze. 896 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 2: And I don't know, it's been a bad situation. He's 897 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 2: so damn good, he's so ridiculous. 898 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, he's good. There's definite potential there. 899 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: But he still has weird drops and he does. 900 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 2: But like, I don't know, man, think about if you 901 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 2: are hosting a podcast with somebody who was just a 902 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 2: crazy wild card all of the time and you could 903 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 2: never get in a rhythm. Oh wait, you already right, 904 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 2: So I'm holding you back in the way that the 905 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,919 Speaker 2: planes hold back. Camp Coleman is what I'm certain of now, 906 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 2: he the best of Cam Coleman is absolutely all American 907 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 2: first round. You know, there is concentration stuff that he had. 908 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 2: What was it to drop against? Was it Oklahoma? 909 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 3: Right? 910 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 2: But whatever, I h I'm willing to look if if 911 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 2: there's such a cool factor with you that makes me 912 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 2: forget about some you know, less than ideal circumstances, you 913 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 2: can do wrong, No wrong by me. So Camp Coleman 914 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 2: is incredible and I love him. Yeah, Diego Pavia though, 915 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 2: when you have Diego Pavia on your team, you are 916 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 2: always going to have that chance. And when Vandy went 917 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,439 Speaker 2: tempo in this game, Look, we're still dealing with an 918 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 2: Auburn team with Dj Dirkin interim coach, and you know, 919 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 2: vibes are all over the place. But when Vandy went 920 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,280 Speaker 2: tempo in this game, they were just on roller skates 921 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 2: and it was a really smart decision. Good for Vandy. 922 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 2: Fun back and forth. This was an Ashton Daniels game, 923 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 2: by the way, for Auburn, who made a ton of plays. 924 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 2: I was gonna say he was with his feet and 925 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,439 Speaker 2: his arm. He was impressive at times in this game. 926 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, No really. 927 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 2: Deserves all the Flowers as well. But yeah, good for Vandy. 928 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,720 Speaker 2: Whatever their their their high aspirations are for the season 929 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 2: are still alive. 930 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not a Heisman voter. I know 931 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,919 Speaker 1: a bunch of Heisman voters. I'm not one of them. 932 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,399 Speaker 1: I would be very curious to talk to some people 933 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: who are to get their read on Pavia, you know, 934 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: because a lot of times the guys that get invited 935 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: to New York, they're on teams that are playing for 936 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 1: something of real merit, you know. And I don't I 937 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: mean not to say Andy isn't. I don't know where 938 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: Vandy's going to end up. They're doing the sec to 939 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: said and done. No, no, no, it's been It's like I said, 940 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:07,919 Speaker 1: it's been an incredible season. I think, completely separate from 941 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: the win loss record, from whatever the stakes are that 942 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: vand ends up playing for at the end of the year. 943 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 1: I don't see how he can't put this guy in 944 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: New York. You know, he was a story of last year. 945 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: He's one of the top five stories this year. He 946 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 1: is fun to watch. He has captured everyone's imagination. He 947 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: is putting the team on his back weekend and week out. 948 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 1: This is an offense built almost entirely around him. I 949 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: don't see how you cannot put this guy in New York, 950 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,399 Speaker 1: especially with a very muddled Heisman field. You know, there 951 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: are no clear cut favorites. 952 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 2: I don't know at this point. We can have a 953 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza conversation, we can have a Juliansane conversation, we 954 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 2: can have a Joe Fannano quarterback at Yukon conversation. 955 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: Seventh year, are any of those guys far and away 956 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,760 Speaker 1: the favorite to win the award? 957 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 2: I mean not as as Wisconsin's winning with Carter Smith 958 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 2: going three of twelve for eight yards. 959 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: I just don't think like in previous years. Yeah, we're 960 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,359 Speaker 1: in the spot here in November where we can say, oh, yeah, 961 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: that's the guy who's probably gonna win. That's true. We 962 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: have no idea. And I think Pavi has got as 963 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 1: good a case, if not better. Okay, and I think 964 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: you should be there. 965 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,800 Speaker 2: It's a it's a good year for do everything type 966 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 2: guys like Aller, like Haines King at Georgia Tech. Right that, Like, yeah, 967 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 2: they're almost more MVP than Heisman like their value to 968 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 2: their specific teams seems more pronounced than ever. 969 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's worth honoring. However, we can come, 970 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, mid December. All right, let's talk through the 971 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 1: Big twelve real quick. We had Houston winning thirty to 972 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 1: twenty seven over UCF earlier in the week. We had 973 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,720 Speaker 1: special uniforms and special uniforms for UCF their first loss, 974 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 1: by the way, in nine attempts. Right where in the 975 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: space U uniform. Yeah. We had West Virginia beating Colorado. 976 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: We had Iowa State edging out TCU twenty to seventeen. 977 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 1: We had Arizona coming back and winning twenty four to 978 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: twenty over Kansas. 979 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 2: Wild Day in the Big twelve? Did Iowa State? I 980 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 2: saw this game on and off on the second screen 981 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 2: during the Oregon Iowa game, went back and forth with TCU, 982 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 2: who was wearing like the blood frog. Look the red 983 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 2: and purple that screws up your eyes. I know, I 984 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,399 Speaker 2: could barely watch this game. 985 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 1: It was giving me a headache. 986 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, the tie has this is not specific to TCU, 987 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 2: TY has issues with red and green visually. It was 988 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 2: this is hard Cornia. 989 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't even watch it. I'm sorry to hear it. 990 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 2: It's this and it's like when Baylor wears the green shade. 991 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 2: That is grass. That's real tough for you too. But no, 992 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 2: I think I want to say Iowa State basically clinched 993 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,280 Speaker 2: this game. I was a punt return touchdown. 994 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was in the fourth quarter, so they were 995 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: down seventeen to six with about thirteen min left, right, 996 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: and through some combination of Carson Hanson and yeah, the 997 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: seventy nine yard punt return from Aiden Flora with a 998 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: minute and a half left, that was how they ended 999 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 1: up winning this one. They came from behind, they were 1000 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: trailing big down eleven. They end up scoring fourteen on 1001 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: the answered to win twenty to seventeen. Yeah. 1002 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 2: Now wild. The Kansas Arizona game was almost too chaotic 1003 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 2: to watch. A lot of it was just a lot 1004 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,879 Speaker 2: of busted plays. It was a lot of lead changes late. 1005 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 2: But honestly, very good of Arizona, who has struggled at 1006 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 2: times this season to finish winnable games to beat, to 1007 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 2: beat a Kansas team that was given them all they 1008 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 2: could handle. And Arizona, I don't know, they have a 1009 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 2: tasty November. Let's call it in front of them to 1010 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 2: have a really nice turnaround here. 1011 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 1: The only other thing that I'll offer on the I 1012 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: guess Big twelve side is that we got to see 1013 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: Juju Lewis from Colorado. Colorado didn't ye. 1014 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 2: He saw highlights of him, but it looked like he 1015 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 2: was hitting some shots down. 1016 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 1: He looked really good. Good two nine, two touchdowns, no picks. 1017 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: He looked really good. Stepping in for Caden Salter and Colorado, 1018 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,280 Speaker 1: I think is officially not going bowling now. That is correct, 1019 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:16,360 Speaker 1: That is correct. 1020 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, that rounds out the Big twelve. Was there 1021 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 2: anything in the SEC. 1022 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 1: Week we forgot Kentucky Florida? I was gonna say, I 1023 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 1: want to talk about Kentucky Florida. What's up with Kentucky 1024 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 1: right now? What is going on with these guys? I 1025 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 1: think Cutter Bowley's got a little bit of juice. I 1026 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: think so too. 1027 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 2: He's young, but I don't know there's a spark there. 1028 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: What is going on with Kentucky. There's zombie Kentucky. I 1029 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: don't have to have the sound. It's not Kentucky, but 1030 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: that's my Bama, zombie Bama. But we can play it here. 1031 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,919 Speaker 1: For Kentucky. They look pretty good. 1032 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 2: They looked good. Dante Daldell hit a couple of big 1033 00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 2: runs and I mean, look we're talking about like after 1034 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 2: Brian factor for LSU and the after Hugh factor. We 1035 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 2: talked about how this was maybe a letdown spot for 1036 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 2: Georgia because it was let down look ahead, what Georgia has. 1037 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: Texas next week? I want to say, but man was 1038 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 1: in a letdown spot for Florida in this one. 1039 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 2: DJ Lagway was all over the place. I need to 1040 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 2: watch this game more closely. I was flipping back and 1041 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 2: forth then, but he got benched. It was a true 1042 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 2: freshman who came in, and I want to say, he 1043 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 2: was benched within like three minutes of Garrett Nussmeyer, like 1044 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 2: when you had the split screen Baseball wild card stuff 1045 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 2: going on. It was like, okay, which extremely herald at 1046 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 2: SEC quarterback is. 1047 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:41,359 Speaker 1: Really going to up? 1048 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 2: No, they're both benched. Okay, So we had that. But yeah, 1049 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 2: that's another game I'm interested in watching closer because Kentucky 1050 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 2: making some noise. 1051 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: Making a little bit of noise all right over in 1052 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 1: the Big ten. Just to sort of round things out, 1053 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: we had USC winning thirty eight seventeen over Northwestern. The 1054 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: story of this game was not that the one. It 1055 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: was the fake punt, oh, the illegal fake punt. 1056 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 2: As it turns out is it allegacy that so okay, 1057 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 2: paint the picture. And then Bruce Felbn wrote an article 1058 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 2: about this. He talked to Mike Breyer and he explained 1059 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 2: why it's illegal. Continue USC ran a fake punt. It 1060 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:21,399 Speaker 2: involved their third string quarterback, Sam Heward. Okay, Now, if 1061 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 2: Sam Heward were out there wearing his normal number, you'd 1062 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 2: like to think that through scouting and through their prep work, 1063 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 2: they would have seen it coming a mile away, that 1064 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 2: there was some sort of fake. As it stands, Sam 1065 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 2: Heward changed his number this week to number eighty, So 1066 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 2: apparently he changed it three weeks ago for nobody noticed 1067 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 2: it because he's the third string. 1068 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: Quarterback, all right, So at some point before, yeah, they 1069 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 1: ran this play, he changed his number to eighty, which 1070 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,840 Speaker 1: is also the same number as their punter, which allowed 1071 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 1: him in this game, which, by the way, if you 1072 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 1: have a play like this, I don't know why you 1073 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: use it on Northwestern, but okay, whatever, Sure they chose 1074 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 1: to run a fake punt where they throw Sam Hewart 1075 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 1: out there in place of their punter, Sam Johnson. Obviously 1076 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: he's got the same number. Nobody sees it coming. The 1077 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 1: punt works. Everyone's talking about it, us he goes on 1078 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 1: to win by twenty one points. Us He's got Iowa 1079 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: next week. That'll be damn interesting. We're obviously gonna have 1080 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: to talk about that one. 1081 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 2: In LA, right in LA. But back to the fake punt. Okay, 1082 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 2: back to the fake punt. 1083 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 1: What did Bruce? What did Mike Perera have to say 1084 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 1: about this? I have not read anything, but my takeaway was, 1085 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 1: how is that legal? 1086 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 2: So you can't play two different players wearing the same 1087 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 2: number at the same position in a game. So because 1088 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 2: Sam Sam Johnson that's the regular punter correct also wears eighty, 1089 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 2: no team can play two number eighties at punter in 1090 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 2: the same game. 1091 00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 1: How are you supposed to know that? Though? 1092 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 2: As an official, I don't know how you're supposed to 1093 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 2: know that, especially because like as an official or as 1094 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 2: you know somebody who's a spotter for Northwestern, how are 1095 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 2: you supposed to look inside the helm to be like, 1096 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 2: that's not Sam Johnson, that's Sam Hillard, that's a hood, 1097 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 2: Like that's the rule. That's the rule USC broke. Obviously 1098 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 2: in the moment, it's a nearly impossible rule to enforce 1099 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 2: unless there is some sort of obvious physical difference between 1100 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 2: the two players. But yeah, Lincoln Riley talked about that. 1101 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 2: David Bron talked about how he didn't think Lincoln Riley 1102 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 2: had called a fake punt since like twenty seventeen, and 1103 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 2: he was like, now, I guess I gotta go through 1104 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 2: every issued roster with a fine tooth comb to notice 1105 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 2: any irregularities. So it was illegal. It wasn't a huge like, 1106 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 2: it wasn't a huge gain or a ten yard right, 1107 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 2: But I think the bigger story is this was a 1108 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 2: spot for USC coming off of a close win on 1109 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 2: the road against Nebraska. Not a close win, but an 1110 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 2: impressive win all things considered against the Nebraska defense, that 1111 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 2: they were able to come home short week Friday night 1112 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 2: and start out a little bit sluggishly back and forth Northwestern. 1113 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 2: I think it was fourteen all or seventeen fourteen or 1114 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 2: something near the half, and exploded in the second half. 1115 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 2: King Miller had a good game, Mikayle Lemon always has 1116 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 2: a good game, it seems, and he went off. He 1117 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 2: was absolutely, you know, a continued dude for USC, and 1118 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 2: the defense clamped down in the second half in a 1119 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 2: much more impressive way. But yes, weird, fake punt illegal, 1120 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 2: But here we are, well. 1121 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 1: It's only illegal if you get caught, and they didn't. 1122 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 1: That's also true thirty eight to seventeen. I As we said, 1123 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 1: we'll be talking about that Iowa game coming up here 1124 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 1: one of our two episodes this week elsewhere in the 1125 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 1: Big ten Ohio. It took a little bit for Ohio 1126 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 1: State that yet going, but once they Yeah, no Carnel Tait, 1127 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,479 Speaker 1: no carneal Tate in this one. Yeah, it was three 1128 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: zip in favor of Perdue after the first quarter, but 1129 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: after they got going, and it like the story of 1130 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 1: this one was pretty much the same story as most 1131 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Ohio State games, where Julian saying where Jeremiah Smith are 1132 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: basically unstoppable. The ground game continues to show real growth. 1133 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 1: I think they had something like one hundred and seventy 1134 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 1: yards on the ground, so it's it seems as though 1135 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: they are starting to add some load there and get 1136 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 1: a little wit I saw on the ground. 1137 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 2: I saw some complaints about at least portions of the 1138 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 2: Ohio state line, but I think this is a fan 1139 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 2: base that can afford to nitpick in that way that 1140 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 2: perhaps others can't, because Ohio State still looks like world 1141 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 2: beaters at the moment though, schedule wise, nobody has a 1142 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 2: roster and a situation on this schedule, perhaps until that 1143 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 2: final week to really offer a measuring stick situation. So 1144 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 2: we'll see. You know, you'd like to be tested if 1145 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 2: you're an Ohio State fan or not a fan, but 1146 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 2: you'd like to see your favorite team be tested a 1147 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 2: little bit to see how they respond against a team 1148 01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 2: with a higher ceiling ahead of December January matchups. 1149 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 1: But you know, nothing they can control. Wisconsin did get 1150 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 1: a win. Wisconsin got a win. They won with forty 1151 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: eight passing yards. Their longest pass of the day was 1152 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 1: a twenty four yard or on a fake punt. Not great, Bob, 1153 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 1: not great in terms of offense, but it was a 1154 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 1: weird weather situation in Madison as well for both teams. 1155 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 1: For both teams. Yeah, Danny O'Neill was the latest Wisconsin 1156 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 1: quarterback to go out with injury. He got carted off 1157 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 1: in the first quarter. They just have no quarterback luck 1158 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 1: right now. But they do find a way to get 1159 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 1: this one done. And again I had jinx Washington just 1160 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: to see if it would work, and my apologies to 1161 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 1: the Huskies out there, but it appears as if I'm 1162 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 1: better at this than I thought, So thirteen to ten 1163 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 1: was your final. 1164 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 2: We were beat up as well. To be Claire Washington. 1165 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 2: There a bunch of injuries to key players, especially on offense, 1166 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 2: but Demon Williams just could not find room, could not 1167 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 2: find passing lanes, and Wisconsin was harassing this Washington offense 1168 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 2: for much of this game, again in soggy, inclement weather. 1169 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what Washington's deal is on the road. 1170 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 2: I mean, same with USC to a certain extent. They 1171 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 2: got over that a little bit with their Nebraska win 1172 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 2: last week, but this one, I don't know if it's 1173 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 2: a Jetfish thing. I don't know if it's just a 1174 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 2: general internal vibe thing. I mean what, they didn't score 1175 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 2: a touchdown for three quarters at Maryland, who I believe 1176 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 2: just lost to Rutgers. You can in fact check me 1177 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 2: on that. Also in the Big Ten, struggled against Michigan, 1178 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 2: I think, held without a score for three of those 1179 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 2: four quarters. Obviously at home against Ohio State struggled, but 1180 01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 2: that's you know, everybody's going to do that. I don't 1181 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 2: know if Jedfish just like brings the wrong chargers, prints, 1182 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 2: the wrong boarding passes. I don't know, what's going on 1183 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 2: with this Washington team on the road, but they do 1184 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 2: not have any concept of how to leave the Pacific 1185 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 2: Northwest and maintain quality. 1186 01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 1: You mentioned the Rutgers game. Yeah, I don't need to 1187 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 1: talk too much about the Rutgers game. Okay, Rutgers one 1188 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 1: thirty five to twenty over Maryland. I just want to 1189 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 1: give a shout out to the Rutgers running back who 1190 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 1: went forty one carries two hundred and forty one yards 1191 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 1: and lot of work two one hundred and forty yards. 1192 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: It's the most in the Big Ten this season, the 1193 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 1: third highest in the country this year, behind Cameron Dickie 1194 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 1: of Tech Texas Tech and Mott Hardy of Miszoo. So 1195 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 1: uh good on him. He should get one of our 1196 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 1: dud alerts. A little bit later on in the show, 1197 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 1: Rutgers does need to steal a win against either Ohio 1198 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 1: State or Penn State if they want to get the 1199 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 1: six wins. More likely that will happen against Penn State 1200 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 1: than Ohio State, but who the hell knows. 1201 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, So Maryland's at five and yeah, Penn 1202 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 2: State Ohio State. Yeah, more likely Penn State than Ohio State. 1203 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:56,880 Speaker 1: That's right. That's right, man. 1204 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of conversation there is to 1205 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 2: be had about Maryland. I know they're starting a ton 1206 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,840 Speaker 2: of younger dudes, but the whole thing, we're just like 1207 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 2: winning in September, losing five straight including to UCLA, right 1208 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 2: Maryland to Ucla, and then like other good teams, Washington, Nebraska, 1209 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Washington came back. Nebraska was close, but they should have 1210 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 2: won that game. Indiana was not close. Like as soon 1211 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 2: as Mike Loxley has to put on a windbreaker, it 1212 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,520 Speaker 2: all leaves. As soon as October hits. 1213 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, ah weird. Okay. The only other 1214 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 1: result here in the Big Ten was Nebraska beating UCLA 1215 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 1: twenty eight twenty one. We didn't that's final. We'd have 1216 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 1: a chance to watch that because we're doing this, but 1217 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,440 Speaker 1: we'll loop back on that one to see if there 1218 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 1: are any storylines that are of note, and to bring 1219 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 1: this thing home and to just be complete in all 1220 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 1: of our coverage here. Notre Dame one going away forty 1221 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: nine to ten over Navy. I watched the whole game. 1222 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: Notre Dame did whatever they wanted against Navy. Saw that. 1223 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 1: So if you're again speaking to which teams would you 1224 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 1: like to be You'd really like to be Notre Dame 1225 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 1: right now, they do have the game next week on 1226 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 1: the road at Pitt. I am mildly terrified of that 1227 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 1: game because I think Pitt's really good through the air. 1228 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 1: I think Pitt's been playing decent defense. I actually think 1229 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,680 Speaker 1: that'll be a better test for Notre Dame. So I'm 1230 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 1: curious to see what they look like. Plus that one's 1231 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,960 Speaker 1: on the road. But that aside. Notre Dame schedule, the 1232 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 1: rest of the way is very manageable, and provided they 1233 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 1: take care of business and continue to show out the 1234 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 1: way they've been shown, they should be fine. They should 1235 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 1: just gradually work their way up in the polls. They'll 1236 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 1: be part of this conversation. What I do think is 1237 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 1: way more interesting, though, is what's going on in the 1238 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 1: group of six. I was gonna say, we got to 1239 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: talk some American football. The American specifically is gonna get 1240 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 1: real weird. So there was a game earlier in the 1241 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: week between Tulane and Memphis. Tulane scored on their first 1242 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,640 Speaker 1: play from scrimmage, which was a sixty five yard touchdown 1243 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 1: pass from Jake Retz Left to Chaz Preston Preston, great name, chazm. 1244 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 1: Tulane then keeps it going for the rest of the 1245 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 1: first half. They put up thirty five points. They build 1246 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,480 Speaker 1: what looks like a very comfortable lead, but then Memphis 1247 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 1: in the second half holds Tulane to just three points. 1248 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 1: Right at the start of the third quarter, they get 1249 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,760 Speaker 1: a field goal, but nothing from that point forward. Memphis 1250 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 1: goes on this late charge in the fourth quarter. They 1251 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 1: score fifteen points late. They have a chance at it 1252 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 1: late but then fail to convert on a fourth and 1253 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 1: eight from Tulane's thirty five yard line. So felt like 1254 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 1: they were out of it. They worked their way back 1255 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,920 Speaker 1: into this thing late. Thirty eight to thirty two was 1256 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 1: your final. Memphis was favored in this one. Remember Tulane, 1257 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 1: I think I lost the week before to Utsa, So 1258 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 1: things are kind of all jostled about in the American 1259 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,840 Speaker 1: right now. Really good game from both these quarterbacks, right, 1260 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 1: Jake Retz left for a good chunk of this game 1261 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:58,040 Speaker 1: is on fire. Get a really good game. But Tulane 1262 01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 1: winning definitely introduces a bit of complexity into where things 1263 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 1: stand in the American And then you layer on top 1264 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 1: of that what went down with the South Florida UTSA game, 1265 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 1: which wasn't a gigantic surprise in that USF one. It 1266 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 1: was a surprise though in the manner that they won. 1267 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 1: And this is from our friend Stuart mandel Over at 1268 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 1: the Athletic quote, never seen anything like this. First quarter 1269 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 1: UTSA first drive, pick six, UTSA second drive, stripsack touchdown. Yeah, 1270 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 1: utsa third drive, a punt muffed by USF. And then 1271 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,440 Speaker 1: he did an updated tweet later saying that USF had 1272 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 1: run thirteen plays and somehow was leading by a thirty 1273 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 1: five to dead margin, which is just not something you 1274 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,240 Speaker 1: see outside of video games. Damn no. 1275 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 2: This is like if solid wife Kate were to come home. 1276 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,960 Speaker 1: Like, you'll never believe the day I had. 1277 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 2: So I park a place I always park, three tickets, 1278 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,280 Speaker 2: then I go into the grocery store, slip on grapes 1279 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,919 Speaker 2: right that this is just UTSAS day. 1280 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 1: It USF's day. Excuse me, us F, excuse me. Yeah, 1281 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 1: USF had a forty five to ten halftime lead. Yeah, 1282 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 1: they put the game away early. So what does all 1283 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:21,000 Speaker 1: of this mean? If you are in the American right now, 1284 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,280 Speaker 1: teams that you want to be are North Texas m 1285 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:29,520 Speaker 1: H and USF right for a rematch in the American Championship. 1286 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,759 Speaker 1: North Texas has the inside track right now because they've 1287 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,719 Speaker 1: by far got the easiest schedule from here on out. 1288 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,880 Speaker 1: If you're USF, you gotta beat Navy next week. Okay, 1289 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 1: not easy. I don't think that's going to be. Well, 1290 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:42,719 Speaker 1: it depends. 1291 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 2: I mean, Blake Corvat didn't play tonight, right Corvaf is 1292 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 2: a scratch about an hour before the game. 1293 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so without him, that definitely is a question. Although 1294 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 1: the backup look pretty good. So USF, you gotta beat 1295 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 1: Navy next week. The rest of it feels like it 1296 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,600 Speaker 1: should be smooth sailing. If you're two lane, you're a 1297 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 1: huge Navy fan. If you're two lane, you still have 1298 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 1: a shot at this thing. You only have one conference loss. 1299 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 1: There is definitely a real possibility here that you could 1300 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 1: find your way into this conversation before long. But you 1301 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 1: need a little bit of help. I think. Okay, that 1302 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 1: is my back of the Napkin math about five minutes 1303 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 1: before going live here. But those three teams right now, 1304 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,719 Speaker 1: well we're going to see two of those three teams 1305 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: end up getting into this scene to play for the 1306 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:30,719 Speaker 1: American Yeah, I think I still think even though Memphis lost, 1307 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:32,920 Speaker 1: the winner of the American is going to end up 1308 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,680 Speaker 1: being the representative in the playoff. There could be a 1309 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 1: case to be made for James Madison out of the 1310 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 1: Sun Belt, but I don't know if the schedule is 1311 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 1: strong enough. 1312 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and James Madison will potentially have a win against 1313 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 2: Washington State and app State, whatever that means to you. 1314 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 1: Continue. And then the other element of this is what 1315 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 1: about the Mountain West. 1316 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's the at time of recording being affected dramatically 1317 01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 2: as San Diego State is getting destroyed by Hawaii. 1318 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 1: So that's taking care. 1319 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 2: Look, we talked about the November Feast tie, and it's 1320 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,640 Speaker 2: not the one happening on that Thursday in a few weeks. No, 1321 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 2: it's college football. It's currently thirty one to six the 1322 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:15,240 Speaker 2: time with this recording, Hawaii at home in Honolulu over 1323 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,719 Speaker 2: San Diego State, who, by the way, to this point, 1324 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,639 Speaker 2: has been led by their defense. I have not watched 1325 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 2: the second of this game. When you're losing thirty one 1326 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 2: to six, it may be the case where the defense 1327 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,800 Speaker 2: is not coming through. Tonight, we got a bunch of 1328 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 2: great calls, nice verbal three. 1329 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,320 Speaker 1: Our guys, Shay cut them up put them together, said 1330 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect this week. Didn't have 1331 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,599 Speaker 1: a bunch of headliner type games. Right, you never know 1332 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 1: what you're going to get when you open up the 1333 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 1: reverb line. He went to bat for this week though, 1334 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 1: and said, this was a fantastic batch. So let's have listen. 1335 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 1: Here're your week eleven reverbs. 1336 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,639 Speaker 5: I was out doing aerons during most of the Penn 1337 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:58,640 Speaker 5: State game, eating some meatballs, looking at some York grubin bookshelves. 1338 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,920 Speaker 5: Of course, so I wasn't paying super close attention. But 1339 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 5: it looks like the Hoosiers got another classic easyw anyone 1340 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:05,800 Speaker 5: else feel the need to dry? 1341 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 1: He's Dan Hi. 1342 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 4: It's Will in San Diego. 1343 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 1: This is Squishy in New York. 1344 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,719 Speaker 6: Hi, guys, Grandma being some riggan here. 1345 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to kill the jinks with kindness. 1346 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,080 Speaker 4: You're still my favorite. 1347 01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:21,639 Speaker 3: Go duck say Hi. 1348 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,320 Speaker 7: Looks like the Walk of the Week curse is over? 1349 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,120 Speaker 4: What is it? 1350 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,599 Speaker 1: Time to run a Heisman campaign for Radica Sathington? Curse 1351 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 1: is broken? 1352 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 7: Curses broken people gig a baggie. 1353 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,640 Speaker 4: Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in. 1354 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,320 Speaker 7: Tulane goes on the road and whips Memphis Roway. 1355 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 2: I think Boston College might be bad at football, but I'm. 1356 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,479 Speaker 1: Gonna withhold judgment. We should know a lot more about 1357 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:49,599 Speaker 1: this team come December. 1358 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 4: It just cratches just the right part of my brain 1359 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 4: that Trinidad went for three hundred and thirty three yards 1360 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 4: and three touchdowns today. Win every game in front of you. 1361 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,880 Speaker 4: Beats to hotty totty, Good evening, Dan and Ti. This 1362 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 4: was Mike from the Mean Streets. 1363 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 3: Of the Easton back in twenty fifteen, the last time 1364 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,840 Speaker 3: Penn State won a games. Now I'm dirty Mike from Bethlehem, 1365 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 3: and I almost saw Penn State win over a top 1366 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 3: rank team. Who knows where I'll actually be and who 1367 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,720 Speaker 3: I'll actually be when Penn State does get a win. 1368 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 7: If Georgia wanted good cruck pot recipes, they could have 1369 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,519 Speaker 7: just asked Mississippi pot roast his famous They didn't have 1370 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,200 Speaker 7: to throw all of klanga in rude. 1371 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 5: I am at Arizona Stadium in Tucson and just wanted 1372 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 5: to say the Wildcats are ball eligible for the very 1373 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,679 Speaker 5: first time since jud Fish. Hi. This is EJ calling 1374 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,240 Speaker 5: in from Dundee, Illinois. 1375 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 6: From a good friend's wedding after seeing my Wisconsin Badgers. 1376 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 7: Get their first ranked win. 1377 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,480 Speaker 5: He's twenty twenty one on Wisconsin. 1378 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:50,800 Speaker 3: Baby. 1379 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 2: Let's see how many passing yards it takes to beat 1380 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,480 Speaker 2: the Washington Huskies. 1381 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:58,320 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five forty eight passing yards twenty four 1382 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,880 Speaker 1: from the punter. That's a lot of yards. 1383 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,400 Speaker 6: I am simply inspired by the multitude away in which 1384 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 6: Penn State can disappoint. It really takes a spotlight off 1385 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:13,519 Speaker 6: of us fans of other disappointing teams. Sincerely, an LSU fan. 1386 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:18,920 Speaker 1: Wahu fops, I'll see you at the May bowle baby watching. 1387 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:23,519 Speaker 7: The Husker UCLA games. Do we have a new isisole 1388 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 7: flock of seagulls thing going on here? 1389 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 1: Or what's up? 1390 01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 4: So you're telling me fran Brown, hasn't you soaked since 1391 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 4: September twentieth? Or we can use. 1392 01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:39,560 Speaker 5: The guests who just got murdered tracked for Kentucky Florida. 1393 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,840 Speaker 1: Is wake Forest the Sanos of the ACC. 1394 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:43,439 Speaker 4: I'll hang up and listen. 1395 01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,519 Speaker 7: I want to tell all the people who've complained about 1396 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,800 Speaker 7: friends who did fall weddings to get over it. My 1397 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,639 Speaker 7: wife did a fall political campaign that throws a ranch 1398 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,719 Speaker 7: in duf but she won biggest win of the season. 1399 01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,880 Speaker 4: Hi, this is steveson Atlanta, Georgia calling about a stork 1400 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 4: for the Indiana Hoosiers. 1401 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 1: With their win and Northwestern's loss, the FDS record for 1402 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,160 Speaker 1: most all time losses have been passed from the Hoosiers. 1403 01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,160 Speaker 4: To the Wildcats. Let's go ten Indiana, smoke them. 1404 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 6: You got the coach stick wins. 1405 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,880 Speaker 1: Again ten Windy Ana. I have a bone to pick 1406 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,400 Speaker 1: with some of the people that called in oh because 1407 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,639 Speaker 1: of the curse stuff. The curse is not broken. 1408 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:25,280 Speaker 2: Tie is against the spread. Curse not outright for entertainment person. 1409 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,599 Speaker 1: Try to keep up people. Yeah, this curse is alive 1410 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,040 Speaker 1: and well yeah, I went oh for six on picks 1411 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,439 Speaker 1: this week. Yeah he's Vader Ham Lincoln oh for six 1412 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,240 Speaker 1: and I went like one out of five last week. 1413 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:43,679 Speaker 2: But people don't know at this point because it's become 1414 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:49,479 Speaker 2: a bit if you are picking teams earnestly or if 1415 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,880 Speaker 2: this is a commerce thing for you for. 1416 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,400 Speaker 1: Quick not benefiting financially from this big charity is. 1417 01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:57,160 Speaker 4: Here. 1418 01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,800 Speaker 1: Here is what I promised the verbowler. Okay, okay, what 1419 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 1: I promise of verballer hood is I will not do 1420 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:08,000 Speaker 1: anything to try and jinks or reverse jinks. My own teams. Okay, 1421 01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 1: all right, the rest of it, he has a code. 1422 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:17,160 Speaker 1: The rest of it based on the obvious success we 1423 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 1: just had this week. I will save for applications that 1424 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,280 Speaker 1: I get from the verballer hood. I will not try 1425 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,720 Speaker 1: to purposely do this. I don't want to wear it out, 1426 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,519 Speaker 1: because if you do anything too much, then you kind 1427 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:27,560 Speaker 1: of lose the mistique. 1428 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,600 Speaker 2: Well, will you jinx the same team multiple times? 1429 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,160 Speaker 1: Or will you? I am happy to do so. I'm 1430 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:34,840 Speaker 1: happy to do so. 1431 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,960 Speaker 2: Okay, but so you'll repeat. This is not a what's 1432 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 2: it called? When you're like the kind of pool where 1433 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 2: you pick NFL teams? Right, No, you can only pick 1434 01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,960 Speaker 2: them one survivor pool. No survivor pool. This is not 1435 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 2: a jink survivor situation. 1436 01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,160 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no no. So listen. If you 1437 01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,760 Speaker 1: have a situation where you want me to a jinx 1438 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,639 Speaker 1: an opponent, you need to send an application to Selve 1439 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,080 Speaker 1: verbaltgmail dot com. If your application is accept that, I 1440 01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 1: will tell you. At that point, you need to make 1441 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,960 Speaker 1: your donation, send me your receipt. Once we have receipts, 1442 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 1: once we know that everything is official, then I'll do 1443 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,400 Speaker 1: the jinks. Okay, that's how this is gonna work. We're 1444 01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,519 Speaker 1: gonna do it to benefit charity, not to benefit us. Okay, 1445 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,679 Speaker 1: but I'm telling you I I had to shiver down 1446 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,760 Speaker 1: my spine when Wisconsin won that game where I was 1447 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,519 Speaker 1: down here it was just me and the dogs, and 1448 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,839 Speaker 1: I woke the dog up because I was pacing the room. Literally, 1449 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:32,719 Speaker 1: what have I become? I don't know. It's it's still college. 1450 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:33,679 Speaker 1: Am I a witch? 1451 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:33,920 Speaker 5: Like? 1452 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,800 Speaker 2: What is going on with this? But it's not out 1453 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,639 Speaker 2: of nowhere? You basically, Look, I'm not going to say 1454 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,120 Speaker 2: that everybody was picking Wisconsin. 1455 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,760 Speaker 1: I've never been able to control it before like this though. 1456 01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 1: You know, if you've watched X Men, how they kind 1457 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 1: of like teach them to like shoot the beams and stuff. 1458 01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 4: Like. 1459 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 1: I knew the power was there, I didn't know how 1460 01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 1: to channel it, right, Okay, And so I'm freaking myself 1461 01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 1: out a little bit with this. 1462 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:02,680 Speaker 2: But I think it's real. I really it's real. So 1463 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 2: our first true proven evidence of the occult is you 1464 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:13,080 Speaker 2: picking Power conference football games incorrectly? 1465 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:14,720 Speaker 1: I believe that's right. 1466 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I'm just making sure. By the way, when 1467 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:21,400 Speaker 2: we were talking about Vanderbilt Auburn and I was talking 1468 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,840 Speaker 2: about Diego Pavia only knowing whatever was three to five 1469 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,880 Speaker 2: plays seven plays in my head. I was also trying 1470 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 2: to workshop a nickname, and I just couldn't land the plane, 1471 01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,320 Speaker 2: and I wanted to just I don't know. I don't 1472 01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,000 Speaker 2: know if you have better ideas. I was gonna go 1473 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,719 Speaker 2: Diego z empic Colon taking shots to help you lose. 1474 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,440 Speaker 2: I think it's okay, it's too wordy. 1475 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,920 Speaker 1: To it's you need to streamline that. 1476 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:51,280 Speaker 2: Diego zampiic Colon taking shots to help you lose. But 1477 01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,839 Speaker 2: like the you is unclear. Obviously it's about the opponent 1478 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,840 Speaker 2: of Vanderbilt. So I don't know I'll get there, but 1479 01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,720 Speaker 2: I just want you to know where my mind was 1480 01:17:58,800 --> 01:17:59,840 Speaker 2: while we were talking about that. 1481 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,439 Speaker 1: Appreciate your honesty. This is your show about honesty. Of course, 1482 01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:07,120 Speaker 1: you were giving a counterpoint. Cam Coleman may not be good. No, 1483 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,519 Speaker 1: I think he's good. I just I don't think he's 1484 01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,800 Speaker 1: he's not bulletproof. He's made a bunch of mistakes. Oh 1485 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 1: he's ridiculous. He's so good. All right, Uh should we 1486 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,040 Speaker 1: do doodle arts? Let's do it? 1487 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:20,280 Speaker 5: All right? 1488 01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 1: I already called out the running back from Rutgers. He 1489 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:23,520 Speaker 1: gets my dude alert. 1490 01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 2: And I guess we called out Joe Fignano. I don't 1491 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 2: know how he pronounce his name, the Yukon quarterback. Yeah, 1492 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,720 Speaker 2: he had a good game. Jake Retz laugh completely went off. 1493 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,120 Speaker 2: Nate Fraser for Georgia. Keewan Brown the Louisville running back 1494 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,280 Speaker 2: and a losing effort was really good. It was, you know, 1495 01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:43,720 Speaker 2: the passing game of defense that let Louisville down. It 1496 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,640 Speaker 2: wasn't the defense wasn't that bad. It was over. They 1497 01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:49,120 Speaker 2: have twenty nine points in overtime. McKay lemon for USC. 1498 01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 2: By the way, another one Malik Washington on the ground 1499 01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:56,759 Speaker 2: in a losing effort Maryland Rutgers uh. And then Jacob 1500 01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:01,439 Speaker 2: de Jesus for for Cal receiver as well, had a 1501 01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,559 Speaker 2: big day through the air and helping to win that game. 1502 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,080 Speaker 2: So I guess that that was a double dude Gamecal game. 1503 01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, that wasn't a planned thing. I don't 1504 01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,320 Speaker 2: know if there was anybody else. I mean, it was 1505 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,280 Speaker 2: a dude throw Dante mor to Malik Benson, all things 1506 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,720 Speaker 2: considered in that moment. In Atticus Sappington for. 1507 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:21,000 Speaker 1: Oregon, I think that all checks out. Dan real name 1508 01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:22,280 Speaker 1: Atticus Sappington. 1509 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,160 Speaker 8: I mean he does he go by Addie or something 1510 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:33,519 Speaker 8: shorter Cuscus Sappy, Sappy, all Sappy, Yeah, his custom bourbon yeah, 1511 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,120 Speaker 8: all Sappy Reserve. 1512 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,599 Speaker 1: It's late at night, ty, and I'm losing it is late. Look. 1513 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,599 Speaker 1: Thank you to one and all for tuning in. We've 1514 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,799 Speaker 1: had a bunch of people tune into the live YouTube 1515 01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,639 Speaker 1: stream here, some of us sending in super chats and whatnot. 1516 01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:53,280 Speaker 1: We appreciate that we had a lot to discuss on 1517 01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,680 Speaker 1: the Week eleven reaction episodes, so I don't think we 1518 01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,920 Speaker 1: had enough time to in earnest, go through comments and 1519 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,840 Speaker 1: talk about some of the ideas that are flowing around 1520 01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:04,840 Speaker 1: out there. But we promised that we'll do that next time, 1521 01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,880 Speaker 1: just because we felt like we had a lot that 1522 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,960 Speaker 1: we needed to unpack here in Week eleven. It was 1523 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,360 Speaker 1: a great week games Again. You called it screw It Saturday. 1524 01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,040 Speaker 1: I think to some extent it lived up to that. 1525 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,760 Speaker 1: We had somebody send in the idea that maybe it 1526 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,120 Speaker 1: should have been stiff Arm Saturday. With the way that 1527 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,120 Speaker 1: some of the top performance were able to shush away 1528 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:28,240 Speaker 1: some of these threats, it is going to get crazy here, 1529 01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,760 Speaker 1: and I hope everybody realizes that over the next four 1530 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:36,600 Speaker 1: weeks or so, you know, I think there is always 1531 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,840 Speaker 1: this risk with a week like Week eleven, where you 1532 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,800 Speaker 1: don't have these obvious headliner games, that you kind of 1533 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,280 Speaker 1: get lulled into this false sense of security. I am 1534 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,640 Speaker 1: urging people not to let themselves do that because I 1535 01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,879 Speaker 1: looked at the slate for week twelve, for Week thirteen, 1536 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,400 Speaker 1: for Week fourteen, and what I believe is to come 1537 01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,640 Speaker 1: in the Conference championship week. I think it's going to 1538 01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 1: get really freaking weird rest of the way. And this 1539 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,200 Speaker 1: is not just me saying that because I want you 1540 01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:07,280 Speaker 1: to tune into the next episodes. I honestly believe these 1541 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,240 Speaker 1: next few weeks are gonna be wild. So if you've 1542 01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,840 Speaker 1: made it this far, please hit follow, please hit subscribes 1543 01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,920 Speaker 1: that you don't miss any of those episodes, that you 1544 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 1: can be with us here in the Verballer hood as 1545 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:21,000 Speaker 1: all the stuff breaks and we find out what kind 1546 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:25,240 Speaker 1: of wacky turns twenty twenty five season takes Wisconsin, Indiana. 1547 01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,479 Speaker 2: Next week we actually have kind of like a viable 1548 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:33,000 Speaker 2: entertainment Friday night maybe Clemson, Louisville, Minnesota, Oregon Double hatter YEP. 1549 01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,439 Speaker 2: I think Wrigley Field is hosting a game next week. 1550 01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:37,439 Speaker 2: We got a bunch of stuff. 1551 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:41,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I am very excited, not just to 1552 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,800 Speaker 1: be doing this show with you, but to be out 1553 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:46,760 Speaker 1: here with all the verballers. It is always a humbling experience. 1554 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for giving us a phone call letting us 1555 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,960 Speaker 1: know your thoughts. Thank you for tuning in, for downloading, 1556 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,080 Speaker 1: for listening, for supporting us at forballers dot com, and 1557 01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,559 Speaker 1: for just being the best damn fan base out there 1558 01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,000 Speaker 1: of any college football podcast on the internet. Why don't 1559 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,519 Speaker 1: we leave it there, Dan, it's a late night. It's 1560 01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 1: always a pleasure to do this with you, For that 1561 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,320 Speaker 1: guy over there, Dan, for myself, Tie, thank you. As always, 1562 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,320 Speaker 1: we will talk to you on Tuesday. In the meantime, 1563 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,040 Speaker 1: Stay solid, peace,