WEBVTT - Conversations About Celebrities 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.360 Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.480 Sinners Podcast with your host. Not funk that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:18.200 low glasses, Malone, don't try to finish stuff about that bullshit. 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:23.239 It's not I was talking about that impossible meeting. Tell 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:28.240 me about that bullship impossible up with the meat the 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.440 it's not it. Have y'all ever cooked with impossible meat? 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.240 We did. We tried to talk on something in Chili 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.520 talk chili. It was cool, but even made a burger 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.199 to remember. It was just I started really feeling like 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.760 what am I like? I don't know. It just was 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:50.360 kind of weird. So I was thinking about like the 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:52.840 texture of it and just I don't know. I freaked 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:54.959 myself out. So and then how do you know it's 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.960 really done? You know when you cook meat, you know that. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.319 It was never I know, but you see what I'm 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.759 saying that don't how do you know it's done? It's 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.679 a vegetable, It's not a vegetable. So that was that 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:13.959 was the other thing we women, we shouldn't eat that 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:16.040 much soy. And so that was like a lot of 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:20.920 like soy. So it was like, I'm good. My issue 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:25.600 is you really what's worse than meat's process food, and 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.520 we really you know, the issue with meat, for the 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.400 most part, outside of the fact they felt like our 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.839 stumming line and can't deal with it, is the fact 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.920 that this processed. So why would I replace process meat 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.240 with a bunch of process everything else that I don't 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.120 know how it came to that conclusion to be to 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.200 taste like meat, think about it, like they make I 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.800 don't even know what's in Like the famous Star that's 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:48.440 like the beyond Superstar at Carl Jr. Why does it 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.040 taste like meat that's like the one that we had 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.720 from Fat Burger. I don't know. But it was really good. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.560 It was good. It was it was it. I'm trying 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.160 to tell you. It was high. It was not it. 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:09.040 Remember we put a rings on it maybe I don't know. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.120 I can't remember exactly what was on it, but we 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:15.519 did a whole lot. You know, I try it again. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:17.680 I didn't want to try it again. Just the fact 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.519 that I know that the thing okay, so tofu right 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.440 it turns into you can make it into all kinds 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.920 of different shapes and like you can flavor however you 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.239 want and to text your stuff. So that right there 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.639 made me be like, no, I can't do this because 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:35.839 how to hell does this ship do that turn into 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.640 everything else? So I just wasn't feeling it. Yeah, so 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.239 I mean she would just use like mushrooms, mushroom burgers. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.760 That was cool, you know, like we just knew like, okay, 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.200 we're not eating meat. So I was on this thinks 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.560 my daughter was a vegetarian for a couple of years. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.520 Why did you start that? I never asked that, Like 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:57.840 why I didn't she wanted to be a vegetarian. So 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:01.480 I'm like, I wonder who was she followed one? Probably 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:05.640 her from her cousin because she was vegetarian before her. 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:11.880 I don't know. Was it me for eight months? Okay? 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.920 Health changes, man, I gotta go back because everything now 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.959 after I did it, it made me be like okay, yeah, 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.720 you gotta go back because I have more energy, Like 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.600 it's no yes, like all that stuff to being stuff 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:30.360 makes you sluggish, like dairy makes you feel like flam 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:34.120 and just like it's unnecessary stuff. I was in so 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.400 much like shape, like I was in good shape. Now. 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.800 I just feel like, were you eating vegan and then 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.960 did you change your lifestyle? Like were you working out more? 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.160 Because you're eating vegan, you feel healthier or was it 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.480 just the food? Yeah? You know what happened. Honestly, what 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.000 happened was I found out that I had a stomach 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:54.600 issue called h pylori where the like the food didn't 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.360 really digest, so the bacteria didn't really just well in 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.880 my stomach line. So it was making me sick. So 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.400 I had to It was like something I had to 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.680 change for myself, for my health. Did I tell you 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.320 the story? I went vegetarian for a whole year, really 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:15.720 the whole year. What happened nothing, It wasn't tight. It 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.320 was like for for what it was like, Okay, so 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.679 I think there are health benefits right where I felt 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.120 a little bit more active for the most part, but 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.560 I was cold all the time. Right, So I realized 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.480 that the cows the grass they're eating the iron I 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.479 was using the iron. I was low on iron, so 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.320 I could feel myself being cold all the time. And 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:43.359 really it's just it made eating. And then I also 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:47.120 started too much starch like like I had. Don't get 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:52.640 me wrong, I had a couple really dope vegetable like mealsa. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.880 Do you like excuse me, do you like vegetables? I 0:04:56.040 --> 0:05:00.880 love vegetables. Vegetables are awesome. Vegetables side. This is like 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.120 if you if I had to go, I did twenty 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:07.640 one days where I went, yeah, I went no. I 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:13.080 went no meat, no alcohol for twenty one days. It 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:14.920 was whatever, you know, I don't know. I was going 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.080 to the church. It was it was the Daniel Fast 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:24.960 what was it? And with jackfruit tacos. So I tried 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.279 it with her. Yeah it didn't. I'm pretty active period, 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.000 so it didn't really feel like it changed my party. 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:32.359 I was just happy that I can do it just 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.960 from sticking to it from a disciper standpoint. But it's 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.159 like ultimately like putting meals together and then you overseason 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.560 to kind of make up for like the natural taste 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.520 that meat has, Like I just don't feel like it 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:48.160 feels like we started too late, man, you know what 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:53.520 I'm saying. We started too late, like, and I realized that, like, um, 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.680 like you you start. That's why I was telling y'all 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:57.800 the last time we were talking about this, where it's like, 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.560 why are if if the goal is to get away 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.840 from meat right on a vegan or vegetarian level, why 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:08.000 the hill are we trying to emulate meat products? Burgers 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:12.520 and chicken and buffalo wings and tinackos and ship that 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.720 you know supposed to have meat and this ship. But honestly, though, 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.000 it kind of helps when you first started, when you 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.400 first start, because it helps you to wean off. Because 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.200 what happened with me. I did pestetarian first for like 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:28.040 a week. Then I went to vegetarian, then I went 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:32.640 to vew vegan. And what that man was like, that's 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:37.719 the real thing. Yes, it's like almost No, I mean no, 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.480 I didn't know. I didn't know what I meant by 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.880 that was I stulldn't eat like red meat stuff like that. 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.400 But I kind of evened out certain little stuff but 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:48.719 was like carbs and stuff like that, cause I wasn't 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:53.480 eating any of that. I wasn't doing sugar. No, you're 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.760 not eating nothing I was eating. I was eating vegetables, 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.920 fresh fruit. I did smoothies in the morning, ginger tea 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.599 like I was eating good. Then I you know, I 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.600 had my little snacks and stuff. You know, throughout the day, 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:10.000 I ate a lot. It just wasn't bad stuff. No 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:16.880 seilings g l in the spot. Uh, my co host 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:20.880 All Girls Red was happening, bread was having that I 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.840 got my partner man, one of my special partners man. 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.480 I met Rick since I've been in the music business. 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.000 It's not a lot of people I consider friends that 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:32.000 I met while in the music business. But Rick Me 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.560 and Rick like low key was like kindred spirits, Like 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.800 we both into the same things and we might see 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.360 our backgrounds are a little different but the same. And 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.600 he's into producing and directing film. Super dope brother. Rick 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:49.680 was having it, so I was trying to get him 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.520 to come because I know we was going no seilings. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.560 We're starting to do more visual stuff and Rick is 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.840 really good at it, like this is what he does. 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.200 Like I've seen him in commercials and randomly tripped out 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.360 all that, why is Rick in this commercial? I think 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.880 they were selling houses, like it was a real estate commercial. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.560 Why is he in this commercial? And uh, but I 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.960 never get Rick took me to a fight on my birthday. 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.040 Ended up being one of the most special fights I 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.320 ever saw. Charlotte, I got this crazy knock out of 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:18.239 people are about to start fighting in there every second, 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.680 you know what, Charlotte Maine. Thanks. I'm a troublemaker. I'm not. 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:26.040 I just don't run from trouble. I don't shy away 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.640 from trouble because you've been yeah, and then you kind 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.480 of get used to it. The courageness of it, of 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.400 dealing with it is cool. Yeah, it's crazy. I was 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:38.079 listening back um to one of the shows and I'm like, dang, jeez, 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:42.480 he made gay banging sounds fun. To be honest, it 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.840 really is like no, Like I get that the you know, 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.080 gang banging only seems like what it is because your 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.800 experience of it. Not you particularly, but I think like 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.000 nine percent of the population never met a crip or 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.719 blood or a drug dealer. Right, So if you know 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.280 anything about gang banging, most of it is going to 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:08.520 come from Rocket and Colors, dough Boy and Boys in 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:12.199 the Hood, film Me or Snoop, And none of these 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:16.560 movies are about that character. So you they only highlight 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:20.400 the most dramatic moments. But most days it is fun. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.000 Most days is going to parties. Most days is getting 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.640 some money. You know, most days is just chilling with 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.040 your friends. I mean, you might get even if some 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.480 of the most active communities it ain't shooting more than 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:37.520 thirty days a year. So that sounds crazy, right, because 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.720 if you're somewhere where there's no shooting. It sounds crazy, 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.079 but if this is normal in that background, you talk 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.640 about three hundred city five days, you're you're you're fine 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.600 to me. But when his own his own. So for 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.480 the most part, it's fun. You have a lot of fun. 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:54.280 You you you trust me. You Most people are not 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.520 honest with the whole conversation. But really, when it comes 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:02.079 down to it, it's really just a serious brotherhood. You 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.600 just got different brothers. That's what it sounded like. When 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.800 I was listening, I'm like, yeah, he makes it sound 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.240 like it's it's fun and this as a whole, this 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.400 is a brother man. Can I can I ask you 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:15.600 a question? It was like, now signed this, I'm projecting 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.679 a little bit, but you understand exactly why you're doing 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.200 what you're doing. And I don't know that everybody in 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:23.360 that space does has down, But but what do most 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.559 humans really understand that they're doing most humans doing most 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.400 people that act like they are you know most people 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.840 that you know people are followers, so they blend into 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.800 any society. So most people ain't in the politics. I 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.160 was raised by game bankers and you know, my grandma 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:41.480 and the shore. But at the same time, like you know, 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:42.880 I was one of the ones that protected and they 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.280 kept out and they said, you know, they walk outside 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:46.760 and if it might be a week day and may 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:48.760 teach me how to fight, make sure I'm gonna be 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.079 no punk. But at the same time, they weren't encouraging 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.720 me to join that space. But when you say most 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.520 people don't know what they're doing, I think the most 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.720 problems that people have with game bang is like that 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.199 the lure where people who have no idea what they're 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.280 getting into become sucked into it because they aren't listening 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.520 to everything that's being said. And people were people who 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.960 have given life fractured us of what the life it 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.440 really is or what the commitment really means. But you 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:17.120 know what that's like me. So guns are what they 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.360 used for how people miss you, like sex sex here's 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.880 a perfect example, sexist for pro creation, how human beings 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.319 misuse it. I couldn't even argue that, like we spend 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.400 more time trying to show people how to property miss 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.400 you something and actually saying this is probably just a 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:35.079 bad idea. You get what I'm saying. So like if 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.440 I started to discourse like I don't discourage people from 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:39.959 gang bang and I just tell him don't like I 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.599 won't even like you have to convince me why you 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.680 should be from where I'm from, Like, I don't understand. 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.360 What if you didn't grow up here? What do you 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:49.760 The thing that made it work for me is I 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.040 grew up here. He's really my friends. I know their mother, 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.480 Ron Ron, I know his mother, slow Poke, I know 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.559 his father, Saint Troy. I held him when he was 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.240 a baby. D Ever, I held him when she was 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.920 a baby. This is my homeboys and hunger. My older 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.040 homies gave me money for me going to the ice 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.120 cream truck. I mean sure that some of my homies 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:07.760 we have to fight. Yeah, but guess what it made 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.800 me now to where I'm not scared to fight anybody 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.520 to stand up for myself. So yeah, I can describe 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.839 it like this. And you have people that misuse their power, 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.960 just like sex. Sex is a great thing, man, You 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.280 can make children, you can do a lot of productive 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.760 things with sex. We don't do productive things with sex. 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:28.320 Sex is actually a domination at this point if you 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.680 think about it really, like what happens with sex, Like 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.160 we're fighting right now for people to have the right 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.920 to have sex and no responsibility after they have sex. 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.360 We're fighting for the right to people to choose. Like 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.200 right now they're trying to pass the law to make 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:44.720 prostitution legal to sell sex. Yes, that's literally something that 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.120 just is about to pass or pass or they're trying 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:48.720 to figure out how to make it pass. I mean, 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.880 it's sounds to me like they're just really making a 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.760 lot of laws, are really making people accountable for their selves, 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.120 like they have to make smart decisions. No, they're not, 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.520 because then you're gonna have health care services that have 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.839 to deal with everybody. So if if it wouldn't be 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.640 a strand on the economy different versus us just teaching 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.439 each other how to like hey, like I tell you 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.000 all a lot of time, the only correct way if 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:12.000 you're not in a relationship to really see somebody, you know, 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.480 funk what you is to not have sex and said, 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.520 that's really the truth. You shouldn't be probably having sex 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.160 till you married. As weird and crazy as that sounds, 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.520 and somebody that comes from where we come from, it's 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:28.040 the truth. Really, sex, You know, sex ruins us. It 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.680 really ruins us, man, because you you start mistaking everything, 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.360 you start believing sh it ain't true, and you will. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.720 It can be a very distraction at times when you 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.560 need to really I mean, and put the blinders on 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:48.480 you too. I think you have to understand all your senses, 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.960 and if you understand, you know, if you're able to 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.760 understand and not be controlled by how you feel, you know, 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.800 whether it's in sex. I think there's possibilities where you 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.320 can use it and it can be for pleasure and 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.640 it can still be ruthful. But I think in general 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.079 people don't practice things that help them understand. And that's 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:10.120 like crypt that's how cripping is. Cripping is like that, 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.600 like for real. It's like I used it to my benefit. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.360 It has been nothing but a benefit to me, you 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.600 know what I mean. But to some people it's stay detriment. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.640 So there's a there's a purpose and a way to 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.960 use it, and there's a way to misuse it, and 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.680 people misuse it. So I agree Rick is writing that sense. 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.040 It is certain people that you know, hear what I 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:30.720 say and they'd be like, oh, well, I can do it. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.600 But if you didn't grow up there, I don't know 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:34.640 what you're doing. That starts right there. While I'm from 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:36.920 is where I grew up at, I was either gonna 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.240 be in the casual block CRYPT, which is my mom's community, 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:40.960 or I'm gonna be a seven story watched crypt like 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:44.320 I am at my dad's community. I would never go 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.800 find a community to join that I don't know the niggas. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.040 Like all of my passion and all of my vigor 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.000 for whatever I need to do is because I know 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.560 somebody's mother and father. Why the hell else would I 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:57.360 ride for a stranger, Like I go sign up for 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.240 the military and they pay me for that, right, don't 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.240 think they're not They don't. They're not thinking like you know, 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:07.600 so they're just they need to do it. They're not 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.560 thinking like that. But I don't want to believe that 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:16.720 it's like like a celebrity, like I'm misleading them. Celebrity speaking. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.960 Two things, you said something about misusing influencing that the 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.320 first thing I think of a celebrity. But also, because 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.480 we're talking about game banking, you said how you feel 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:31.080 about celebrity game bankers like people joint sets and aren't 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:37.120 from that name. I think it's cute, but what what 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.000 do you feel like? Because these hoods are letting these 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:45.120 people everybody every team needs a mascot. Wow, I mean, 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.480 if you want to mascot yourself around for the community, 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.080 how can I be upset about that? Sometimes they don't 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.720 have to make sense, like uh, like the Colorado's is 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:55.760 a lion. I think that's the mountain line. I think 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.000 different teams have mascots, and sometimes the mascots don't make sense, 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.680 But that don't mean they don't. I don't know what 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:08.360 it is. They got all kind of crazy things. If 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:10.880 you if you go through the NBA mascots, because most 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.800 of the mascots, like what would the Laker would be 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.720 like a fisherman or something? You know what I'm saying, 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.280 Like you run around as a lake? I don't know. Yeah. 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.640 So again, sometimes the mascots don't make sense, which is 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.480 like the celebrities, you know, join the communities. But who 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.000 am I gonna? Sometimes I tripped like little Wayne in 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:33.240 Tupac from the same gang. Yeah, both from the mob. 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:38.680 Ain't that crazy? Yeah? Man? And no one has half 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:43.840 the battle. I was sad. No, But what I'm saying 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:48.160 is I I agree, like I don't know why people 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.800 do that. I don't. I could never tell you. The 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:53.680 only reason that I'm from where I'm from is because 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.520 I grew up there, but he was some of you 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.200 know I'm saying, so, I don't know why somebody who 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.840 was a celebrity or a regular person like, I don't 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.720 know how. I just was talking about this earlier in 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.639 two thousand and thirteen, I was doing a concert in 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.320 the Y and that's how I found out Chris Brown 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:15.800 was from Fruittown, like my boy wife from Fruittown, who 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.879 was like a lifelong fruit Town like I'm a lifelong 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.800 seven Street. We knew each other before the music business. 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.280 And he was like, hey, you in the Y. I'm 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:24.720 like yeah. He's like, I'm over here right now with 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.200 Chris Brown. Come pull up, laughing, come check this out. 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:34.000 I'm like, okay. So I go over there and there 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.600 in this field in Hawaii and Honolulu, right there in 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.600 the field with a big building and they're tagging up 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.080 on the building like Chris Brown is like this super 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:49.120 Chris Brown is unbelievably super talented. Listen, Nick Dan slammed 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:53.240 the dunk the ball, He get graffiti and beat up girls. 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:57.080 Not forgetting that's a joke. That was a joke for you. 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.960 I had a called epiphany, I'm gonna say to you, 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:06.600 had an epiphany. Chris Brown started off with Michael Jackson 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:11.520 talent and ended up Bobby Brown, and Usher started off 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:16.000 with Bobby Brown talent and ended up Michael Jackson. Wow, 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:24.160 think about that. Chris Brown got it all like Usher, 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.199 Like Usher got confessions. That's almost like thriller. That's like 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:31.959 Thriller Jr. Chris Brown is still a lot of like 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.239 Bobby Brown. Like Brown had all these one offs, these 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.520 one take joint that was popping. He made a ghostbuster song, 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:43.600 cop crazy stuff off this crazy stuff out of the business, 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:49.879 personal life right right, But let me get back to 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:51.560 the point because we finish talk about that. It's a 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:55.280 whole another contrast. No, look though, I thought about that too, trim. 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:59.280 But uh so I said Chris, Right, So I'm like 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:01.359 what up? I'm whack? What UPY? Are we chopping up? 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.320 Like check this out and come check it out. So 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.760 I woke up Chris like, oh what up? G I'm like, oh, 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.520 what's happening with a gold blah blah. You're like, oh yeah, 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.600 everything cool man on fruit thoughts blah blah talk. I 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:14.240 was like this think is just say I'm tripping back 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.520 for sure. So he he was talking to me, he 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.040 was like, yeah, you know, nigga's tripping. You know what 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.000 I'm saying, pop Rue blo him. Niggas don't wand it 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:28.840 this that I was like, holy shit, like and and 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.200 it sounds negative and I'm I'm a huge supporter of 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.720 Chris Brown. I love Chris right, but that was their mascot. 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:39.480 Then they got Soldier Boy and this crazy mascot. I 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:44.440 get it. No, we didn't need this to to take 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:50.800 a fade. I feel like earlier you were going on 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:52.960 a different path because I feel like celebrity kind of 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.280 like distorts everything. It's like it takes away the meaning 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.280 where so many people will align with the mascot, but 0:19:58.320 --> 0:19:59.720 the players are the ones who really made it, you 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:00.800 know what I mean. And I feel like there's a 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.040 center of being from a neighborhood in this community, and 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:06.000 often the things that are replaced the things you go 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.600 finding that community that may be lacking other spaces in 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:12.000 these communities, in our communities. And then you get the 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:18.360 mascot say Sued. More not have heard. I never heard 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:20.159 blood say Sue when I was younger, you know what 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.920 I'm saying. I was like, that's what so many more 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:24.960 millions of people you know what I'm saying, associate with 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:26.479 They don't know what's ogs. They don't know who put 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:28.000 him on, They don't know who. We don't know if 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:29.680 you gotta pay somebody when he comes to town or 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:35.520 who they genuinely love tune. Tune is really their guy. 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:37.680 But this is what it is, Rick, I, I totally 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.160 get what you're saying, right, because it is a bit tough. 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:43.960 But that's be honest. Most people net that's what makes 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.520 our world that we come from, Like I could like, 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:49.600 I consider it the upside down and stranger things. It 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.119 sounds crazy to everybody else where we grew up at. 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.439 It don't even sound like it's real. You gotta think right, 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.639 it's more competent and Watts. It's not more competent in 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:02.200 watching than there is Lakewoods. It's more suburbs in America 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:04.160 than it is these places that we are from, these 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:08.919 small niche communities. So they won't have a better understanding 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:13.160 no matter what happens. WHOA think about it the closest 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:16.080 they can probably even feel the reason being a blood 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.600 is probably even more okay. Where they like the police 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.920 may not kill you is because a little way so 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:27.320 take it outside of it. I mean, is it influential 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:29.840 the square, Sure, it's it's it's gonna be battle class 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:33.000 people inside. I think you can apply the same template 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:35.800 to almost everything, and that like celebrity is the enemy 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:40.040 of expertise. It's like, but it's like, we can change 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.560