Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No
Speaker 1: Sinners Podcast with your host. Not funk that with your
Speaker 1: low glasses, Malone, don't try to finish stuff about that bullshit.
Speaker 1: It's not I was talking about that impossible meeting. Tell
Speaker 1: me about that bullship impossible up with the meat the
Speaker 1: it's not it. Have y'all ever cooked with impossible meat?
Speaker 1: We did. We tried to talk on something in Chili
Speaker 1: talk chili. It was cool, but even made a burger
Speaker 1: to remember. It was just I started really feeling like
Speaker 1: what am I like? I don't know. It just was
Speaker 1: kind of weird. So I was thinking about like the
Speaker 1: texture of it and just I don't know. I freaked
Speaker 1: myself out. So and then how do you know it's
Speaker 1: really done? You know when you cook meat, you know that.
Speaker 1: It was never I know, but you see what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that don't how do you know it's done? It's
Speaker 1: a vegetable, It's not a vegetable. So that was that
Speaker 1: was the other thing we women, we shouldn't eat that
Speaker 1: much soy. And so that was like a lot of
Speaker 1: like soy. So it was like, I'm good. My issue
Speaker 1: is you really what's worse than meat's process food, and
Speaker 1: we really you know, the issue with meat, for the
Speaker 1: most part, outside of the fact they felt like our
Speaker 1: stumming line and can't deal with it, is the fact
Speaker 1: that this processed. So why would I replace process meat
Speaker 1: with a bunch of process everything else that I don't
Speaker 1: know how it came to that conclusion to be to
Speaker 1: taste like meat, think about it, like they make I
Speaker 1: don't even know what's in Like the famous Star that's
Speaker 1: like the beyond Superstar at Carl Jr. Why does it
Speaker 1: taste like meat that's like the one that we had
Speaker 1: from Fat Burger. I don't know. But it was really good.
Speaker 1: It was good. It was it was it. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to tell you. It was high. It was not it.
Speaker 1: Remember we put a rings on it maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what was on it, but we
Speaker 1: did a whole lot. You know, I try it again.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to try it again. Just the fact
Speaker 1: that I know that the thing okay, so tofu right
Speaker 1: it turns into you can make it into all kinds
Speaker 1: of different shapes and like you can flavor however you
Speaker 1: want and to text your stuff. So that right there
Speaker 1: made me be like, no, I can't do this because
Speaker 1: how to hell does this ship do that turn into
Speaker 1: everything else? So I just wasn't feeling it. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I mean she would just use like mushrooms, mushroom burgers.
Speaker 1: That was cool, you know, like we just knew like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're not eating meat. So I was on this thinks
Speaker 1: my daughter was a vegetarian for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Why did you start that? I never asked that, Like
Speaker 1: why I didn't she wanted to be a vegetarian. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wonder who was she followed one? Probably
Speaker 1: her from her cousin because she was vegetarian before her.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Was it me for eight months? Okay?
Speaker 1: Health changes, man, I gotta go back because everything now
Speaker 1: after I did it, it made me be like okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta go back because I have more energy, Like
Speaker 1: it's no yes, like all that stuff to being stuff
Speaker 1: makes you sluggish, like dairy makes you feel like flam
Speaker 1: and just like it's unnecessary stuff. I was in so
Speaker 1: much like shape, like I was in good shape. Now.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, were you eating vegan and then
Speaker 1: did you change your lifestyle? Like were you working out more?
Speaker 1: Because you're eating vegan, you feel healthier or was it
Speaker 1: just the food? Yeah? You know what happened. Honestly, what
Speaker 1: happened was I found out that I had a stomach
Speaker 1: issue called h pylori where the like the food didn't
Speaker 1: really digest, so the bacteria didn't really just well in
Speaker 1: my stomach line. So it was making me sick. So
Speaker 1: I had to It was like something I had to
Speaker 1: change for myself, for my health. Did I tell you
Speaker 1: the story? I went vegetarian for a whole year, really
Speaker 1: the whole year. What happened nothing, It wasn't tight. It
Speaker 1: was like for for what it was like, Okay, so
Speaker 1: I think there are health benefits right where I felt
Speaker 1: a little bit more active for the most part, but
Speaker 1: I was cold all the time. Right, So I realized
Speaker 1: that the cows the grass they're eating the iron I
Speaker 1: was using the iron. I was low on iron, so
Speaker 1: I could feel myself being cold all the time. And
Speaker 1: really it's just it made eating. And then I also
Speaker 1: started too much starch like like I had. Don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, I had a couple really dope vegetable like mealsa.
Speaker 1: Do you like excuse me, do you like vegetables? I
Speaker 1: love vegetables. Vegetables are awesome. Vegetables side. This is like
Speaker 1: if you if I had to go, I did twenty
Speaker 1: one days where I went, yeah, I went no. I
Speaker 1: went no meat, no alcohol for twenty one days. It
Speaker 1: was whatever, you know, I don't know. I was going
Speaker 1: to the church. It was it was the Daniel Fast
Speaker 1: what was it? And with jackfruit tacos. So I tried
Speaker 1: it with her. Yeah it didn't. I'm pretty active period,
Speaker 1: so it didn't really feel like it changed my party.
Speaker 1: I was just happy that I can do it just
Speaker 1: from sticking to it from a disciper standpoint. But it's
Speaker 1: like ultimately like putting meals together and then you overseason
Speaker 1: to kind of make up for like the natural taste
Speaker 1: that meat has, Like I just don't feel like it
Speaker 1: feels like we started too late, man, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We started too late, like, and I realized that, like, um,
Speaker 1: like you you start. That's why I was telling y'all
Speaker 1: the last time we were talking about this, where it's like,
Speaker 1: why are if if the goal is to get away
Speaker 1: from meat right on a vegan or vegetarian level, why
Speaker 1: the hill are we trying to emulate meat products? Burgers
Speaker 1: and chicken and buffalo wings and tinackos and ship that
Speaker 1: you know supposed to have meat and this ship. But honestly, though,
Speaker 1: it kind of helps when you first started, when you
Speaker 1: first start, because it helps you to wean off. Because
Speaker 1: what happened with me. I did pestetarian first for like
Speaker 1: a week. Then I went to vegetarian, then I went
Speaker 1: to vew vegan. And what that man was like, that's
Speaker 1: the real thing. Yes, it's like almost No, I mean no,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know what I meant by
Speaker 1: that was I stulldn't eat like red meat stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But I kind of evened out certain little stuff but
Speaker 1: was like carbs and stuff like that, cause I wasn't
Speaker 1: eating any of that. I wasn't doing sugar. No, you're
Speaker 1: not eating nothing I was eating. I was eating vegetables,
Speaker 1: fresh fruit. I did smoothies in the morning, ginger tea
Speaker 1: like I was eating good. Then I you know, I
Speaker 1: had my little snacks and stuff. You know, throughout the day,
Speaker 1: I ate a lot. It just wasn't bad stuff. No
Speaker 1: seilings g l in the spot. Uh, my co host
Speaker 1: All Girls Red was happening, bread was having that I
Speaker 1: got my partner man, one of my special partners man.
Speaker 1: I met Rick since I've been in the music business.
Speaker 1: It's not a lot of people I consider friends that
Speaker 1: I met while in the music business. But Rick Me
Speaker 1: and Rick like low key was like kindred spirits, Like
Speaker 1: we both into the same things and we might see
Speaker 1: our backgrounds are a little different but the same. And
Speaker 1: he's into producing and directing film. Super dope brother. Rick
Speaker 1: was having it, so I was trying to get him
Speaker 1: to come because I know we was going no seilings.
Speaker 1: We're starting to do more visual stuff and Rick is
Speaker 1: really good at it, like this is what he does.
Speaker 1: Like I've seen him in commercials and randomly tripped out
Speaker 1: all that, why is Rick in this commercial? I think
Speaker 1: they were selling houses, like it was a real estate commercial.
Speaker 1: Why is he in this commercial? And uh, but I
Speaker 1: never get Rick took me to a fight on my birthday.
Speaker 1: Ended up being one of the most special fights I
Speaker 1: ever saw. Charlotte, I got this crazy knock out of
Speaker 1: people are about to start fighting in there every second,
Speaker 1: you know what, Charlotte Maine. Thanks. I'm a troublemaker. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I just don't run from trouble. I don't shy away
Speaker 1: from trouble because you've been yeah, and then you kind
Speaker 1: of get used to it. The courageness of it, of
Speaker 1: dealing with it is cool. Yeah, it's crazy. I was
Speaker 1: listening back um to one of the shows and I'm like, dang, jeez,
Speaker 1: he made gay banging sounds fun. To be honest, it
Speaker 1: really is like no, Like I get that the you know,
Speaker 1: gang banging only seems like what it is because your
Speaker 1: experience of it. Not you particularly, but I think like
Speaker 1: nine percent of the population never met a crip or
Speaker 1: blood or a drug dealer. Right, So if you know
Speaker 1: anything about gang banging, most of it is going to
Speaker 1: come from Rocket and Colors, dough Boy and Boys in
Speaker 1: the Hood, film Me or Snoop, And none of these
Speaker 1: movies are about that character. So you they only highlight
Speaker 1: the most dramatic moments. But most days it is fun.
Speaker 1: Most days is going to parties. Most days is getting
Speaker 1: some money. You know, most days is just chilling with
Speaker 1: your friends. I mean, you might get even if some
Speaker 1: of the most active communities it ain't shooting more than
Speaker 1: thirty days a year. So that sounds crazy, right, because
Speaker 1: if you're somewhere where there's no shooting. It sounds crazy,
Speaker 1: but if this is normal in that background, you talk
Speaker 1: about three hundred city five days, you're you're you're fine
Speaker 1: to me. But when his own his own. So for
Speaker 1: the most part, it's fun. You have a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: You you you trust me. You Most people are not
Speaker 1: honest with the whole conversation. But really, when it comes
Speaker 1: down to it, it's really just a serious brotherhood. You
Speaker 1: just got different brothers. That's what it sounded like. When
Speaker 1: I was listening, I'm like, yeah, he makes it sound
Speaker 1: like it's it's fun and this as a whole, this
Speaker 1: is a brother man. Can I can I ask you
Speaker 1: a question? It was like, now signed this, I'm projecting
Speaker 1: a little bit, but you understand exactly why you're doing
Speaker 1: what you're doing. And I don't know that everybody in
Speaker 1: that space does has down, But but what do most
Speaker 1: humans really understand that they're doing most humans doing most
Speaker 1: people that act like they are you know most people
Speaker 1: that you know people are followers, so they blend into
Speaker 1: any society. So most people ain't in the politics. I
Speaker 1: was raised by game bankers and you know, my grandma
Speaker 1: and the shore. But at the same time, like you know,
Speaker 1: I was one of the ones that protected and they
Speaker 1: kept out and they said, you know, they walk outside
Speaker 1: and if it might be a week day and may
Speaker 1: teach me how to fight, make sure I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: no punk. But at the same time, they weren't encouraging
Speaker 1: me to join that space. But when you say most
Speaker 1: people don't know what they're doing, I think the most
Speaker 1: problems that people have with game bang is like that
Speaker 1: the lure where people who have no idea what they're
Speaker 1: getting into become sucked into it because they aren't listening
Speaker 1: to everything that's being said. And people were people who
Speaker 1: have given life fractured us of what the life it
Speaker 1: really is or what the commitment really means. But you
Speaker 1: know what that's like me. So guns are what they
Speaker 1: used for how people miss you, like sex sex here's
Speaker 1: a perfect example, sexist for pro creation, how human beings
Speaker 1: misuse it. I couldn't even argue that, like we spend
Speaker 1: more time trying to show people how to property miss
Speaker 1: you something and actually saying this is probably just a
Speaker 1: bad idea. You get what I'm saying. So like if
Speaker 1: I started to discourse like I don't discourage people from
Speaker 1: gang bang and I just tell him don't like I
Speaker 1: won't even like you have to convince me why you
Speaker 1: should be from where I'm from, Like, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: What if you didn't grow up here? What do you
Speaker 1: The thing that made it work for me is I
Speaker 1: grew up here. He's really my friends. I know their mother,
Speaker 1: Ron Ron, I know his mother, slow Poke, I know
Speaker 1: his father, Saint Troy. I held him when he was
Speaker 1: a baby. D Ever, I held him when she was
Speaker 1: a baby. This is my homeboys and hunger. My older
Speaker 1: homies gave me money for me going to the ice
Speaker 1: cream truck. I mean sure that some of my homies
Speaker 1: we have to fight. Yeah, but guess what it made
Speaker 1: me now to where I'm not scared to fight anybody
Speaker 1: to stand up for myself. So yeah, I can describe
Speaker 1: it like this. And you have people that misuse their power,
Speaker 1: just like sex. Sex is a great thing, man, You
Speaker 1: can make children, you can do a lot of productive
Speaker 1: things with sex. We don't do productive things with sex.
Speaker 1: Sex is actually a domination at this point if you
Speaker 1: think about it really, like what happens with sex, Like
Speaker 1: we're fighting right now for people to have the right
Speaker 1: to have sex and no responsibility after they have sex.
Speaker 1: We're fighting for the right to people to choose. Like
Speaker 1: right now they're trying to pass the law to make
Speaker 1: prostitution legal to sell sex. Yes, that's literally something that
Speaker 1: just is about to pass or pass or they're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how to make it pass. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's sounds to me like they're just really making a
Speaker 1: lot of laws, are really making people accountable for their selves,
Speaker 1: like they have to make smart decisions. No, they're not,
Speaker 1: because then you're gonna have health care services that have
Speaker 1: to deal with everybody. So if if it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a strand on the economy different versus us just teaching
Speaker 1: each other how to like hey, like I tell you
Speaker 1: all a lot of time, the only correct way if
Speaker 1: you're not in a relationship to really see somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: funk what you is to not have sex and said,
Speaker 1: that's really the truth. You shouldn't be probably having sex
Speaker 1: till you married. As weird and crazy as that sounds,
Speaker 1: and somebody that comes from where we come from, it's
Speaker 1: the truth. Really, sex, You know, sex ruins us. It
Speaker 1: really ruins us, man, because you you start mistaking everything,
Speaker 1: you start believing sh it ain't true, and you will.
Speaker 1: It can be a very distraction at times when you
Speaker 1: need to really I mean, and put the blinders on
Speaker 1: you too. I think you have to understand all your senses,
Speaker 1: and if you understand, you know, if you're able to
Speaker 1: understand and not be controlled by how you feel, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's in sex. I think there's possibilities where you
Speaker 1: can use it and it can be for pleasure and
Speaker 1: it can still be ruthful. But I think in general
Speaker 1: people don't practice things that help them understand. And that's
Speaker 1: like crypt that's how cripping is. Cripping is like that,
Speaker 1: like for real. It's like I used it to my benefit.
Speaker 1: It has been nothing but a benefit to me, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But to some people it's stay detriment.
Speaker 1: So there's a there's a purpose and a way to
Speaker 1: use it, and there's a way to misuse it, and
Speaker 1: people misuse it. So I agree Rick is writing that sense.
Speaker 1: It is certain people that you know, hear what I
Speaker 1: say and they'd be like, oh, well, I can do it.
Speaker 1: But if you didn't grow up there, I don't know
Speaker 1: what you're doing. That starts right there. While I'm from
Speaker 1: is where I grew up at, I was either gonna
Speaker 1: be in the casual block CRYPT, which is my mom's community,
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna be a seven story watched crypt like
Speaker 1: I am at my dad's community. I would never go
Speaker 1: find a community to join that I don't know the niggas.
Speaker 1: Like all of my passion and all of my vigor
Speaker 1: for whatever I need to do is because I know
Speaker 1: somebody's mother and father. Why the hell else would I
Speaker 1: ride for a stranger, Like I go sign up for
Speaker 1: the military and they pay me for that, right, don't
Speaker 1: think they're not They don't. They're not thinking like you know,
Speaker 1: so they're just they need to do it. They're not
Speaker 1: thinking like that. But I don't want to believe that
Speaker 1: it's like like a celebrity, like I'm misleading them. Celebrity speaking.
Speaker 1: Two things, you said something about misusing influencing that the
Speaker 1: first thing I think of a celebrity. But also, because
Speaker 1: we're talking about game banking, you said how you feel
Speaker 1: about celebrity game bankers like people joint sets and aren't
Speaker 1: from that name. I think it's cute, but what what
Speaker 1: do you feel like? Because these hoods are letting these
Speaker 1: people everybody every team needs a mascot. Wow, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to mascot yourself around for the community,
Speaker 1: how can I be upset about that? Sometimes they don't
Speaker 1: have to make sense, like uh, like the Colorado's is
Speaker 1: a lion. I think that's the mountain line. I think
Speaker 1: different teams have mascots, and sometimes the mascots don't make sense,
Speaker 1: But that don't mean they don't. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is. They got all kind of crazy things. If
Speaker 1: you if you go through the NBA mascots, because most
Speaker 1: of the mascots, like what would the Laker would be
Speaker 1: like a fisherman or something? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you run around as a lake? I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So again, sometimes the mascots don't make sense, which is
Speaker 1: like the celebrities, you know, join the communities. But who
Speaker 1: am I gonna? Sometimes I tripped like little Wayne in
Speaker 1: Tupac from the same gang. Yeah, both from the mob.
Speaker 1: Ain't that crazy? Yeah? Man? And no one has half
Speaker 1: the battle. I was sad. No, But what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is I I agree, like I don't know why people
Speaker 1: do that. I don't. I could never tell you. The
Speaker 1: only reason that I'm from where I'm from is because
Speaker 1: I grew up there, but he was some of you
Speaker 1: know I'm saying, so, I don't know why somebody who
Speaker 1: was a celebrity or a regular person like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how. I just was talking about this earlier in
Speaker 1: two thousand and thirteen, I was doing a concert in
Speaker 1: the Y and that's how I found out Chris Brown
Speaker 1: was from Fruittown, like my boy wife from Fruittown, who
Speaker 1: was like a lifelong fruit Town like I'm a lifelong
Speaker 1: seven Street. We knew each other before the music business.
Speaker 1: And he was like, hey, you in the Y. I'm
Speaker 1: like yeah. He's like, I'm over here right now with
Speaker 1: Chris Brown. Come pull up, laughing, come check this out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay. So I go over there and there
Speaker 1: in this field in Hawaii and Honolulu, right there in
Speaker 1: the field with a big building and they're tagging up
Speaker 1: on the building like Chris Brown is like this super
Speaker 1: Chris Brown is unbelievably super talented. Listen, Nick Dan slammed
Speaker 1: the dunk the ball, He get graffiti and beat up girls.
Speaker 1: Not forgetting that's a joke. That was a joke for you.
Speaker 1: I had a called epiphany, I'm gonna say to you,
Speaker 1: had an epiphany. Chris Brown started off with Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: talent and ended up Bobby Brown, and Usher started off
Speaker 1: with Bobby Brown talent and ended up Michael Jackson. Wow,
Speaker 1: think about that. Chris Brown got it all like Usher,
Speaker 1: Like Usher got confessions. That's almost like thriller. That's like
Speaker 1: Thriller Jr. Chris Brown is still a lot of like
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown. Like Brown had all these one offs, these
Speaker 1: one take joint that was popping. He made a ghostbuster song,
Speaker 1: cop crazy stuff off this crazy stuff out of the business,
Speaker 1: personal life right right, But let me get back to
Speaker 1: the point because we finish talk about that. It's a
Speaker 1: whole another contrast. No, look though, I thought about that too, trim.
Speaker 1: But uh so I said Chris, Right, So I'm like
Speaker 1: what up? I'm whack? What UPY? Are we chopping up?
Speaker 1: Like check this out and come check it out. So
Speaker 1: I woke up Chris like, oh what up? G I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's happening with a gold blah blah. You're like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: everything cool man on fruit thoughts blah blah talk. I
Speaker 1: was like this think is just say I'm tripping back
Speaker 1: for sure. So he he was talking to me, he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you know, nigga's tripping. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, pop Rue blo him. Niggas don't wand it
Speaker 1: this that I was like, holy shit, like and and
Speaker 1: it sounds negative and I'm I'm a huge supporter of
Speaker 1: Chris Brown. I love Chris right, but that was their mascot.
Speaker 1: Then they got Soldier Boy and this crazy mascot. I
Speaker 1: get it. No, we didn't need this to to take
Speaker 1: a fade. I feel like earlier you were going on
Speaker 1: a different path because I feel like celebrity kind of
Speaker 1: like distorts everything. It's like it takes away the meaning
Speaker 1: where so many people will align with the mascot, but
Speaker 1: the players are the ones who really made it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I feel like there's a
Speaker 1: center of being from a neighborhood in this community, and
Speaker 1: often the things that are replaced the things you go
Speaker 1: finding that community that may be lacking other spaces in
Speaker 1: these communities, in our communities. And then you get the
Speaker 1: mascot say Sued. More not have heard. I never heard
Speaker 1: blood say Sue when I was younger, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was like, that's what so many more
Speaker 1: millions of people you know what I'm saying, associate with
Speaker 1: They don't know what's ogs. They don't know who put
Speaker 1: him on, They don't know who. We don't know if
Speaker 1: you gotta pay somebody when he comes to town or
Speaker 1: who they genuinely love tune. Tune is really their guy.
Speaker 1: But this is what it is, Rick, I, I totally
Speaker 1: get what you're saying, right, because it is a bit tough.
Speaker 1: But that's be honest. Most people net that's what makes
Speaker 1: our world that we come from, Like I could like,
Speaker 1: I consider it the upside down and stranger things. It
Speaker 1: sounds crazy to everybody else where we grew up at.
Speaker 1: It don't even sound like it's real. You gotta think right,
Speaker 1: it's more competent and Watts. It's not more competent in
Speaker 1: watching than there is Lakewoods. It's more suburbs in America
Speaker 1: than it is these places that we are from, these
Speaker 1: small niche communities. So they won't have a better understanding
Speaker 1: no matter what happens. WHOA think about it the closest
Speaker 1: they can probably even feel the reason being a blood
Speaker 1: is probably even more okay. Where they like the police
Speaker 1: may not kill you is because a little way so
Speaker 1: take it outside of it. I mean, is it influential
Speaker 1: the square, Sure, it's it's it's gonna be battle class
Speaker 1: people inside. I think you can apply the same template
Speaker 1: to almost everything, and that like celebrity is the enemy
Speaker 1: of expertise. It's like, but it's like, we can change
Speaker 1: our relationship with celebrity, but I feel like we keep
Speaker 1: signing up for exalting celebrities and their opinions outside of
Speaker 1: the thing that they're every single time in every single way.
Speaker 1: And it's like, then we're mad at the celebrity for
Speaker 1: being the celebrity. Was like, we're the one who made
Speaker 1: them instead of My home girl was telling me the
Speaker 1: other day, I was talking to you about Kanye, which
Speaker 1: I hate to talk about Kanye again. God damn man,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly just determined it for me to talk about.
Speaker 1: This is why you have to talk about I think
Speaker 1: he believes that genuinely, that's what you keep saying. But
Speaker 1: I just don't feel that. I feel like he knows.
Speaker 1: I know, I just feel like he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: He's like the king of this ship, right Yeah. But
Speaker 1: I don't think the problem is I think he believes
Speaker 1: that he Kanye is like me without burden, like he
Speaker 1: sits him around and studies this ship and figures it
Speaker 1: out and figures it out to a certainty to where
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk what you say. This is
Speaker 1: what it is. And I think that's great for artists
Speaker 1: as any artists, right, it's just an art The problem is,
Speaker 1: I'm talking to my home girl and my home girls
Speaker 1: a super talented singer, and she was like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we don't have enough leaders like Kanye. I'm like a leader.
Speaker 1: And that's when he became the first time. I was
Speaker 1: like giving you. I'm giving you the right, bro, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you you are right. Because I was like Kanye
Speaker 1: leading somebody. It's like, who the fun is following Kanye?
Speaker 1: I'm not following. I wouldn't follow Kanye into a McDonald's.
Speaker 1: But I I started to understand because people follow money,
Speaker 1: they follow influence and success. Yeah. But but but this
Speaker 1: is my issue with Kanye. We celebrate Kanye for right reasons.
Speaker 1: We celebrate him for good reasons. He is a brilliant man,
Speaker 1: not a genius. I don't I'm not doing a genius thing. This.
Speaker 1: It's like you come up with, ain't never happened. Kanye
Speaker 1: is the best at interpretating anything. He could take a
Speaker 1: song and make it a shoot and it will make sense.
Speaker 1: He is a brilliant person, very brilliant. But when it
Speaker 1: comes down to it, I think he's an artist and
Speaker 1: that's it. But we do celebrating for a good reason,
Speaker 1: and we should. I think it's fair to celebrate him. Now.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't let him lead us anywhere. We can listen
Speaker 1: to his ideas, and then if his idea is good,
Speaker 1: we he should ask that on to a person who's
Speaker 1: actually qualified to lead in cultural experiences. My issue with
Speaker 1: celebrities is why the funk are we celebrating Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1: That's my problem, not Kanye. I get why we celebrate
Speaker 1: Kanye West. I get why we celebrate jay Z. They
Speaker 1: are talented poets. Kanye is a talented producer. Well, some
Speaker 1: people may think, like, Kim Kardashian is doing you know,
Speaker 1: for the people right now? And why do we celebrate her?
Speaker 1: Why is celebrity saying what I'm saying. I don't celebrate her,
Speaker 1: But I'm saying some people asking you, why do we
Speaker 1: celebrate her? I think there's two different things. It's like,
Speaker 1: why is Kim Kardashian celebrity on the level. Well, it's
Speaker 1: a different question than what she's doing with the celebrity now,
Speaker 1: because that's what I'm saying. I work in a group
Speaker 1: called represent Justice and Goals, and she's actually showing up.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing cool getting people partner. Now. I can
Speaker 1: see why people. I can see why people like her,
Speaker 1: But Rick, you're not a celebrity. We don't celebrate you
Speaker 1: for that mission. So why are we celebrating her? Think
Speaker 1: about And that's my problem. I think. I think to
Speaker 1: become a celebrity, right, the root word of celebrity, right,
Speaker 1: it is rooting, and we celebrate someoney. We usually celebrate
Speaker 1: people's talents. That's why somebody becomes a celebrity. Is a
Speaker 1: good actor, so he becomes a celebrity, you know, Right,
Speaker 1: that's the key, Right, Why do you celebrate Kanye I
Speaker 1: mean Kim Kardasha. Why, Like I've seen this thing with
Speaker 1: Cardi B the other day, right, Um, well even Cardi
Speaker 1: B as a personality, So that's why I said she
Speaker 1: was a fantastic, fantastic entertac. Well, actually she's just a
Speaker 1: She's just a diet sister. She's a diet sister from
Speaker 1: the corner, and it's still die like she's like a
Speaker 1: black woman light m It's just it's just entertaining to
Speaker 1: watch her do this. I think she's like Puerto Rican.
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican. All Puerto Ricans diet, Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican too, He's a diet Like what are you saying?
Speaker 1: No is different everybody. Fat Joe no, no, listen, this
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Yeah, but Fat Joe grew up
Speaker 1: in forest houses projects, So those niggas I would be
Speaker 1: have to be mad. I couldn't be mad at Fat Joe.
Speaker 1: N I need to be mad at them if I
Speaker 1: was on the trip. But that's the nigga, so I
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to say. He don't call me like
Speaker 1: I ain't his nigga. That his niggas, So he wouldn't
Speaker 1: he be referencing like my niggas he talking about his
Speaker 1: niggas Puerto Y. I mean, it's not like a huge population.
Speaker 1: That's how I don't know. We got mask. We got
Speaker 1: Mexican niggas war from Okay, so niggas that we grew
Speaker 1: up with. My homeboy Kasper, that nigga been around me
Speaker 1: my whole life. My matriarch family and my gang raising.
Speaker 1: That's my nigga, and I'm his nigga. That's my guy,
Speaker 1: and I can't hear differently. He's been calling me as
Speaker 1: nigga since he's four. Okay, okay, that's my nigga. Mando,
Speaker 1: that's my guy. It's my nigga. But listen, she but
Speaker 1: she is Dominican in her dominic, her father's dominic, and
Speaker 1: her mother's Tinidad in the same thing. She black. That's
Speaker 1: not black. Why is it not black? Stop doing that?
Speaker 1: So y'all invite anybody. No, you can be like from
Speaker 1: the you can be a Negro from Trinidad. But black
Speaker 1: is a special cultural experience Black American. But that's the
Speaker 1: only black that we're talking about. That's the only black
Speaker 1: we've been talking about. We ain't talking about Nigerian black.
Speaker 1: They're Nigeria. I am saying black because yeah, we're only
Speaker 1: talking about the experience. We'd be like, oh that you
Speaker 1: might know, they don't. That's the new ship that just
Speaker 1: started two days ago. I just started makes sense that
Speaker 1: want to that's might call yourself an African American is
Speaker 1: technically blame. But we call ourselves black to rebuke America.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying African American. I'm not mad at them.
Speaker 1: So when I say black, I'm speaking specifically of this
Speaker 1: cultural thing that we got going on. I had another
Speaker 1: epiphany I want to share with thinking. I read about
Speaker 1: it to me two days. No, the black experience is
Speaker 1: how the world treats you. Black culture is how you
Speaker 1: treat the world. The black experience is how the world
Speaker 1: treats you that same, by that same, why can't Cardi
Speaker 1: Cardis identifies as black? She's black? No, Cardi be can
Speaker 1: have a black experience, but she's not a black culture.
Speaker 1: But no matter what, no matter which way you slice this,
Speaker 1: how how you identify somebody is how you identify somebody.
Speaker 1: But I am I'm king black. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's the problem. Yes, I can stop her after, I
Speaker 1: can stop her at the door. Yes I can. Lies. No,
Speaker 1: it's not. We wouldn't let that white lady identifies black
Speaker 1: to save her life. What's that lady name? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: wouldn't met her. No, that's that's different. That's like what
Speaker 1: rare it took your change. It wasn't different. That's like
Speaker 1: when Debo took your change. It was not different. That's different. No,
Speaker 1: what about when you talking me out smoke backyard. You
Speaker 1: can't do that. You can't make it close. Listen, black
Speaker 1: is a cultural experience. It's cultural. It's not even the experience.
Speaker 1: Forgive me for that. It's a cultural life. It's not
Speaker 1: just you came from Africa. Every Jamaican people and black
Speaker 1: people in this country have different cultures. We may have
Speaker 1: the same experience, we may have the same experience because
Speaker 1: white people ignorant, they see everybody is one of us.
Speaker 1: They like y'all want of them until they start to back.
Speaker 1: Oh man, you need to get him in his neighborhood
Speaker 1: you're talking about. No, I'm talking culture because whenever we're
Speaker 1: talking America, we're talking culture. Well, we can talk culture
Speaker 1: and you can you can categorize this whatever weight like.
Speaker 1: In theory. What you're saying works. But if she decides
Speaker 1: to somebody know, I'm saying, she's not you. You're saying,
Speaker 1: but my word is everything. Yes, it does. Check and
Speaker 1: the things that are hip hop, cripping and black. I
Speaker 1: have authority say. Okay, so you know the ethnicity thing, right,
Speaker 1: when you check the box it says Spanish or Latino descent,
Speaker 1: you say none, right, and then under it has all
Speaker 1: the other ones. It's say black. She don't check the
Speaker 1: black black, she checks the Latino box, and then she's
Speaker 1: not Why would she check both two or more? Why
Speaker 1: y'all just reaching y'all know, y'all know we got people
Speaker 1: who got that already. Did she say she's a black woman? No,
Speaker 1: she said so, she said something like that. She said
Speaker 1: something like that, but then she said something else that
Speaker 1: made me think twice. She she talked about the fact
Speaker 1: that her people come from African roofs. But then she
Speaker 1: said she when she was dating off that she said,
Speaker 1: I like the date people different than me. Y'all both
Speaker 1: from her. That means you know this nig is a
Speaker 1: nigger because you wouldn't say. I bet you Nikki would
Speaker 1: never say that. And I'm not in the middle of
Speaker 1: a war. I'm just saying Nikki wouldn't be like dated
Speaker 1: Meek Mell because he dating somebody different than me. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you this lady is Latina, and that's the dope
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Look, racially, she is a Negro, she comes
Speaker 1: her people come from Africa. She's not a Cauca zoy,
Speaker 1: She's not a manga. Lloyd you know, she's not that
Speaker 1: she's a but we're not talking about that. We're talking
Speaker 1: about when we say black, we're talking about a culture
Speaker 1: role thing. She grew up Dominican culture. In Trinidadian culture,
Speaker 1: wasn't nobody making greens and ship at the house. It
Speaker 1: was entirely too much rice with every meal. She don't
Speaker 1: know nothing about, none of the neck bones and none
Speaker 1: of that. I'm not saying, and I'm not saying. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, that's what being black is like without If
Speaker 1: you're a black person that grew up in Beverly Hills,
Speaker 1: you don't really have black culture. I know that sounds
Speaker 1: fucked up, but it's true. You can have a black
Speaker 1: experience because everybody in this buffalo treat you like a nigga.
Speaker 1: For sure, you this work, But ain't nobody the things
Speaker 1: that bond us together. When we create this lingo, right, Rick,
Speaker 1: when we create this lingo, it's different. That's why we
Speaker 1: talked the way we talked, Rick, Like what's up? Like,
Speaker 1: that's us, that's us from bad educational programs at school.
Speaker 1: Feel me, that's us. That's how we talk. That's our linguage,
Speaker 1: that's our language. You know, we don't even really speak
Speaker 1: American English. Where I'm from in Beverly Hills, they speak
Speaker 1: American English, but they speak American English. Yeah, but we
Speaker 1: speak slang. When I was not classes two, but it
Speaker 1: was like when I was saying, ain't I had a
Speaker 1: seventh seventh grade teacher, Miss Dixon. She was like, you
Speaker 1: can't say I say whatever I want to say. I
Speaker 1: got aids on all these damn tests. I can say
Speaker 1: what I want to say. I can speak out and
Speaker 1: not school. How did you talk to sleep? I talk
Speaker 1: to perfect American English? You never listen. I would be
Speaker 1: I was, I would put in a nigga with five
Speaker 1: syllable word, but you added the nigga. But and probably
Speaker 1: most times I probably I'll probably take it out a
Speaker 1: little bit more. But at the same time, I have
Speaker 1: the latitude to do whatever I want and be whoever
Speaker 1: I want. Stands I'm saying. But if Carti wants to nope, nope, no, no,
Speaker 1: we have to start closing the door. Listen, listen. I
Speaker 1: don't know that person what I'm saying. I'm not. But
Speaker 1: that's not the point. I don't even talk about cause
Speaker 1: now we we knew the focus. But no Carti B
Speaker 1: is definitely not black as far as culture goes. Okay, racially,
Speaker 1: she is a negroy like us. Culturally, she's not black.
Speaker 1: That's really what it's called. You're about to say something else,
Speaker 1: but no, but she said something specifically about so we
Speaker 1: celebrate Carti's personality. That's her talent. She has as lighted
Speaker 1: side of her as a personality, and it's bright. But
Speaker 1: she was talking and arguing with another rapper lady, and
Speaker 1: it was arguing on Twitter, and I you know, it
Speaker 1: came across my timeline. She was like, you know some
Speaker 1: something like you my songs, my talent speaks for themselves.
Speaker 1: And I started to think, like what is her talent?
Speaker 1: Like I thought her talent was on television? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like when she was a Cardi B. Like,
Speaker 1: what's Cardi b tent? Like that's card but that's not
Speaker 1: she doesn't rap like that. Well no, no, not to me.
Speaker 1: Like party writes her wraps, the engineer moves it on beat.
Speaker 1: It don't matter. She's an artist. She still get out
Speaker 1: there and she's not an artist. Now if you want
Speaker 1: to say, that's maybe her talent, but I've never I've
Speaker 1: never heard great things about her concert and I've never
Speaker 1: heard like that Cardi B concert was going up, never
Speaker 1: in my life. I'm not saying it does. I'm saying
Speaker 1: that she didn't showcase a picture of her concert and said,
Speaker 1: my talent speaks for herself. She was referring to her records,
Speaker 1: and I was saying, it's like TLC, Like, if I
Speaker 1: question your talent at that point, I'm not wrong. I
Speaker 1: don't know why you are talented now. But that's not
Speaker 1: the point. I know why we celebrate Cardi B. We
Speaker 1: celebrate Cardi B from hip hop, loving hip hop. She's
Speaker 1: a talented person that's selling her personality. She's a I
Speaker 1: still don't know what kim talent is. Even if I
Speaker 1: see her show, it's stale. She's a stale character, stale personality.
Speaker 1: Her looks is actually made and I'm not talking ship
Speaker 1: like literally, she has classic surgery. I saw her sex
Speaker 1: tape that wasn't impressive. You don't celebrate her, you have
Speaker 1: to ask somebody who celebrates There's a subset of people
Speaker 1: who identify with her and who feel like should they
Speaker 1: represent a version of themselves. They like to identify with
Speaker 1: just like anybody I just like I can't. You don't
Speaker 1: have to vouch what we're not in that space. But
Speaker 1: I'm not saying them crazy. What I'm saying to you
Speaker 1: is that's what wrong. That's what's wrong with you. When
Speaker 1: you're talking about celebrity and what's wrong with celebrity, we
Speaker 1: actually celebrate nothing today. I'm talking about as a society,
Speaker 1: not not glasses a rig orrid age. I'm saying, we
Speaker 1: have people that have no talents that we celebrate. Like
Speaker 1: we're celebrating people's baby mother because they got pregnant. Think
Speaker 1: about it. I don't know, that's not true. Little babies,
Speaker 1: baby mother. I don't know her. Jada Jada, she's a celebrity.
Speaker 1: We celebrated because she gave a little baby some pussy. No,
Speaker 1: they celebrated because she's she's like a social media icon
Speaker 1: right now for for social media. What do you mean
Speaker 1: social media? Is that look just because you don't like
Speaker 1: it or you don't it's not about liking it there is.
Speaker 1: She has no talent, literally, that's hers. She makes talent
Speaker 1: because she's little babies, baby mother. She's not a model.
Speaker 1: Between the model that the social media now that is
Speaker 1: the new Like the magazine still exists they do, but
Speaker 1: they don't know. You're following her because you want to
Speaker 1: be the girl that little baby slept with, So you're
Speaker 1: idolize somebody that little baby slept with. That's the truth,
Speaker 1: that's the true day. For us to really get to this,
Speaker 1: we would have to only talk about people that we
Speaker 1: actually celebrate. Everybody I celebrate has talent, But I have
Speaker 1: never celebrated a woman somebody slept with because I celebrate that.
Speaker 1: I agree that, and I think that. But what we're
Speaker 1: saying is these people are celebrities. People want to feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: I know you. If you if you see your teacher
Speaker 1: at the grocery store, she's a celebrity. Is like, oh snap,
Speaker 1: our teacher gets groceries. That's we should be celebrating teacher.
Speaker 1: But talent I'm talking about. What I'm saying is there's
Speaker 1: a certain level of celebrities like, oh, I know this person,
Speaker 1: I can describe them, I can give you a shorthand
Speaker 1: and you I'm not saying I'm not speaking of which
Speaker 1: I actually knowing this person. But I think what's lost
Speaker 1: in the whole celebrity thing, and it's ultimately ultimately very
Speaker 1: detrimental to our cultures we don't know these people, That's
Speaker 1: my point. But we know Kanye. Well we have no choice,
Speaker 1: but no, we know Kanye. Y'all just fought it. Rick
Speaker 1: y'all fought it. And when I first walked through here,
Speaker 1: I was saying this, you've been doing this bullshit like
Speaker 1: y'all made it like a big deal because he said,
Speaker 1: if George Bush don't like black people, all my fac no,
Speaker 1: all y'all Kanye guys who used Kanye to walk in
Speaker 1: he's a big deal to me? Why? Because ultimately he
Speaker 1: was a representation, a public representation of a space that
Speaker 1: I didn't know it exists. That is the space in
Speaker 1: between like the way I was, the way in between,
Speaker 1: the gainst the ship that I was raised up that
Speaker 1: I was kind of kept out of, and seeing a
Speaker 1: space where you can actually loves are outside of the
Speaker 1: culture that we created in a sense of like that.
Speaker 1: And that's because I'm gonna tell you why he never
Speaker 1: represented this. That'side right there. Oh slow down. He didn't
Speaker 1: have to what he'd represented. What he represented was his
Speaker 1: own thing. I didn't have a conversation with him about
Speaker 1: what he represented. You heard his music. His first song
Speaker 1: was about a car accident. Okay, how many everybody, It's
Speaker 1: not a cultural part. He's a low rider. Finished my point. Gay,
Speaker 1: When I was in high school, I didn't know. I'm
Speaker 1: from bakers for a small minded place. It's a very
Speaker 1: shot at I thought there was almost got shot up there.
Speaker 1: Not when you came from sleep, No, no no, no, this
Speaker 1: was when I was up there in the homies, been
Speaker 1: trying to bully some niggas and pulled out a big gun.
Speaker 1: Niggas had to get on. All right, that's a whole
Speaker 1: with the people of the podcast. That's my that's my
Speaker 1: place where I But the way I was raised, it
Speaker 1: was a very small window of what you could be
Speaker 1: as a black person. Also just culturally, the time was different.
Speaker 1: We used to talk ship about black skateboarders, We used
Speaker 1: to talk about everybody who was outside of the purview
Speaker 1: of what we were doing. Was as far as athletes,
Speaker 1: and grew up, how we grew up and that the
Speaker 1: and it comes down like now it's like I didn't
Speaker 1: know that those things could exist. I was very much
Speaker 1: influenced by how what everybody else celebrated. And now I
Speaker 1: look at it like the high school meet was folly
Speaker 1: for you know what I'm saying getting on a black skateboard.
Speaker 1: I don't skateboard, never skateboarding the day in my life.
Speaker 1: But now I look at what Tyler Crater has done,
Speaker 1: all these type of people, and it's like they have
Speaker 1: the Internet and they can see that black and exists
Speaker 1: in all different types of spaces and it isn't limited
Speaker 1: to the one. But those are very much still street
Speaker 1: urban things. So even if they're not our street urban experiences,
Speaker 1: that sure, sure, But but that's what Tyler showed you.
Speaker 1: But Tyler, Tyler showed me at least. But also everything
Speaker 1: that kin't represents, like some of it, like the musical
Speaker 1: choices he made, even the way he articulated his love
Speaker 1: for fashion and other ship that he was in is
Speaker 1: something that I didn't. I was not privy to in
Speaker 1: that way. But but and so it's like, why came here.
Speaker 1: I was wearing double lexes, That's what. And the ship
Speaker 1: didn't fit. Even though you can wear what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I've gotten smaller, you know what I'm saying. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. Literally you can't even wear some
Speaker 1: ship that fit when I came Black people, Listen, black
Speaker 1: people can exist everywhere. But the difference is what YA
Speaker 1: specifically is that one party. Rick, no matter what, that
Speaker 1: you grew up still rooted in the streets. He don't
Speaker 1: have that. I understand that. And that's why. That's why
Speaker 1: right now, that's why I'm not following the ship. But
Speaker 1: he's doing right now. But I'm telling you existed. But
Speaker 1: we're making the music and being a representation that was
Speaker 1: honest to whatever he was. It's like, I don't the
Speaker 1: kind of sounds like the reason I know, but he doesn't.
Speaker 1: It's not exactly the same. It's not even nowhere near
Speaker 1: the same. Rick is not no part Rick is not
Speaker 1: no part of that guy. That's the problem. And Rick
Speaker 1: Van certain one of my homies who kind of looked
Speaker 1: because they're like, Okay, well I just didn't subscribe to
Speaker 1: the street life, right, But that's not what Kanye represents.
Speaker 1: Day Lasoul represented, that exhibit represented, that tribe called Quest
Speaker 1: represented that I was no Kanye West represents Eddie Winslow.
Speaker 1: Eddie Winslow was never in the streets. Rick is not Huxtable.
Speaker 1: He is not theo Huxtable. He I'm excuse me, what's
Speaker 1: the little what's your brother name? The yeah, Yeah, what's
Speaker 1: his what's his name? He's not THEO Hustable. He's not
Speaker 1: Eddie Winslow. Kanye is the proverbial black kid who grew
Speaker 1: up in the suburbs of him. Actually he's actually, he's
Speaker 1: actually Eddie Winslow grew up on the South Side of
Speaker 1: Chicago together. He is not from the streets at all.
Speaker 1: His family is not from the streets at all. Nothing
Speaker 1: about him he didn't pretend to be. I'm not mad
Speaker 1: at him pretending to be, but I mean, the only
Speaker 1: person that was happening. That's not true. They are sold
Speaker 1: and pretended to be thugs. Try didn't pretend to be thugs.
Speaker 1: And they weren't celebrated in the same They didn't achieved
Speaker 1: the same level of success. And they also were completely
Speaker 1: separate from it. They wasn't separate, No, they weren't. They
Speaker 1: was the ship. A mob was the ship. What you're
Speaker 1: saying is yea, and this is the problem. You did
Speaker 1: what most people do. He used hip hop as a door.
Speaker 1: He acted like he was one of us to get
Speaker 1: the door, and then told you he looked up to
Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe when he was young. I don't know no
Speaker 1: brother from the hood that like Marilyn Monroe, I swear
Speaker 1: to God, it's right there. Yes, Jay is a different
Speaker 1: breed though he and I'm not knocking him. I thought
Speaker 1: he's one of the greatest scientists to engineer records, one
Speaker 1: of the greatest scientists to engineer records in hip hop.
Speaker 1: Like he's a fantastic, brilliant producer. Right, But again, when
Speaker 1: the depth of your initial struggle is a car accident,
Speaker 1: that's all American as apple pie. The next song your
Speaker 1: boss accusing you're still in pants. That's like the songs
Speaker 1: that's like the depth spaceships. The next song is all
Speaker 1: falls down, like he doesn't have. Kanye got in right,
Speaker 1: and he celebrated because when fifty cent came out, people
Speaker 1: thought hip hop was heading back into a place of
Speaker 1: tupop in biggie. So they gave Kanye a foot and
Speaker 1: was like, let's just push this so we can have something.
Speaker 1: I think it's me it's fucking fantastic. Is my top five.
Speaker 1: That don't mean he's not a fucking cornball. I like
Speaker 1: a lot of pop acts. But I'm saying that's why
Speaker 1: people are mad. Now. I was mad then I was
Speaker 1: when he said that ship about George but and he
Speaker 1: kind of stuttered, George Bush doesn't like my favorite rapper
Speaker 1: said fuck Reagan wholeheartedly on every platform. Ice t set
Speaker 1: that ship on open. Why doesn't matter what any rate?
Speaker 1: I mean because as a person, when you come from
Speaker 1: our culture and you know better than anybody, even though
Speaker 1: you're not a gang member, we say ship with our chess.
Speaker 1: I understand that. What I'm saying is if we're talking
Speaker 1: about celebrity, and we're talking about celebrity influence, like why
Speaker 1: does Kannie want to run for politicians have any traction?
Speaker 1: Why does Rhnald Reagan even as a celebrity, like outside
Speaker 1: of even our culture. It's like he makes good music.
Speaker 1: We got all the way off track about Kaye, Like
Speaker 1: why don't we ignore everything from kind It is a music, Okay,
Speaker 1: he made certain because of fashion. Maybe we can that
Speaker 1: because then we started because when you start to celebrate, right,
Speaker 1: and somebody comes to celebrity. So once you start to
Speaker 1: celebrate somebody, you start to determine their greatness. The goal
Speaker 1: is to celebrate the only great things, right, that's the
Speaker 1: initial point of what we used to celebrate. It's all
Speaker 1: out of control now, Like I said that but I'm
Speaker 1: saying and Kanye is because the same thing running Reagan
Speaker 1: as an actor. That's why I brought him into the conversation.
Speaker 1: And and to be honest, like Kanye is not the
Speaker 1: modicum of like he's going to stick with anything. I
Speaker 1: think the principle of the lack of principles in some
Speaker 1: ways is probably, but I'm not, I'm not. Did you
Speaker 1: hear the quote he said about Lady Gaga when she
Speaker 1: was the creative director of Polaroid. It was like a quote,
Speaker 1: He's like, Lady Gaga, I like some of the songs,
Speaker 1: but why does she know about cameras? And I thought
Speaker 1: that she was great, But I also think, like Nigga,
Speaker 1: you're talking about yourself. But also he's talking about us,
Speaker 1: and that there was he's talking about us because Polaroid
Speaker 1: needed a creative No, not not you, but us. If
Speaker 1: we go we start doing that Kanye translating, here's the thing,
Speaker 1: here's the thing, though, here's the thing. Polaroid needs a
Speaker 1: creative director. They probably need a creative director who knows
Speaker 1: everything that ends it, outs, the camera, stre etcetera. Lady
Speaker 1: Gaga probably gets them further because of how people respond
Speaker 1: to celebrity, and I think we apply that everywhere. What's what? Who? What?
Speaker 1: Celebrities voting for? Who? And why? Like we don't know
Speaker 1: what research they did, what celebrity got vaccinated or didn't
Speaker 1: like all of these things. We allow that and we
Speaker 1: say these things are elevated because of celebrity. But but,
Speaker 1: but but I'm telling you why we celebrate what we
Speaker 1: used to. We used to celebrate extremely talented people. How
Speaker 1: so so talent what talent comes? Gift? Is there anybody comes?
Speaker 1: Is there anybody you choose to celebrate that? No, but
Speaker 1: I've never celebrated anybody's not talented? So is there? How
Speaker 1: do we collectively, how can we use this platform, this
Speaker 1: influence to reduce or to change the way we interact
Speaker 1: with celebrity, Like are there things like should we not buy?
Speaker 1: Like should we buy you know, somebody's headphones? I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to put nobody under the bus, or
Speaker 1: like should we buy somebody's headphones? Like music? But it's
Speaker 1: like dres you know, the best mixer. Of course he
Speaker 1: had of course he had phones. He kind of like
Speaker 1: Kanye makes dooblem so he could be a good president.
Speaker 1: That's how people see it Kanye albums. The way he talks,
Speaker 1: he couldn't be nothing but the grape. I would vote
Speaker 1: for Kanye. I would vote for Kanye only because I
Speaker 1: love to see the world in this arraye because I
Speaker 1: genuinely I've seen what every white man looks like as president.
Speaker 1: It's never been beneficial. Man should be president before Kanye's infide,
Speaker 1: I can't think of three I can give me. Give
Speaker 1: me three people that's black that should be the black,
Speaker 1: not not Kenyan in white like Barack. Give me black people.
Speaker 1: Give me somebody that grew up culturally. Give me three people. Man,
Speaker 1: you always do. Give me No, I'm asking you. He's
Speaker 1: a black person in the Minote for him, yes, because
Speaker 1: I would love to see what it would be like
Speaker 1: with him as president. I am tired of seeing white
Speaker 1: older white men this and about to die. That's the
Speaker 1: president now he is two days away from dying. That
Speaker 1: may be up there talking for getting what he said.
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking because I think that's a tough job.
Speaker 1: So I know it's a stress and pressure. But this
Speaker 1: man is about to die and he up there making
Speaker 1: decisions for everybody. That man like a hundred and three
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. All I'm saying, Rick is give me
Speaker 1: three more qualified black people in America to be the president.
Speaker 1: I think the only person I can think of it
Speaker 1: Claude Energy. And I don't think people will care for
Speaker 1: him because he's just an economics like, he's just an
Speaker 1: economics guy. I don't even know. If I had to
Speaker 1: start choosing right, just name a black person, name a
Speaker 1: popular black person, name of name a political great black person.
Speaker 1: If you say Maxie Waters or Kanye, I'm gonna say Kanye.
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. Who can we put on the
Speaker 1: ballot that's better than you? Now, I'm not saying would
Speaker 1: he be a great president? I don't know. It's Biden
Speaker 1: a really good president. Yes, some hundred and thirty seven
Speaker 1: dollars a gallant? What about? Um? I'm just saying, who
Speaker 1: give me that person? Give me a black person? You
Speaker 1: up on this? I'm not. I'm not a political person,
Speaker 1: but you still, I'm dead serious. I would rather change
Speaker 1: your question to, like, what celebrities do you trust the most?
Speaker 1: Are the celebrities that you feel like because are we
Speaker 1: talking about just celebrities that we're talking about people? I'm
Speaker 1: talking about people that's even I mean, who set up
Speaker 1: for the trade, who set up for the presidential trade?
Speaker 1: Who is that person? The last person was Barack Obama,
Speaker 1: and I thought he did a crappy job, at least
Speaker 1: for black people. I think he had I think he
Speaker 1: did a really great job as American president, but I
Speaker 1: think he did a horrible job as a person. As
Speaker 1: like one of us. It matters. It matters to me,
Speaker 1: why are we It just matters to me. I think
Speaker 1: if you black, you should do special things. I understand
Speaker 1: if nobody else agreed, it's important to me. I'm so
Speaker 1: over here trying to think of the You're not in
Speaker 1: a politics, So give me somebody that's not a politician
Speaker 1: that you'd be like, man, there would be more of
Speaker 1: a of a firecracker in kanyan office. Firecrackers, I mean,
Speaker 1: somebody who would really try to you're the only person
Speaker 1: who wants a firecracker in office? Yeah, because I really
Speaker 1: want to see sure, dictator. I don't think I should
Speaker 1: really be taking that, Yes, because I really because if
Speaker 1: I let y'all make decisions, you're gonna make bad decisions,
Speaker 1: and then I supposed to be okay decisions. No, I'm
Speaker 1: going to make a decision. Nothing Kanye does, but you
Speaker 1: believe he's gonna make good decisions in I believe in
Speaker 1: what Kanye do. I believe in the record teammate. I
Speaker 1: believe he I'm not choose but everybody else like him.
Speaker 1: But his choices. Do you believe in the choices he made?
Speaker 1: What choices did he make? He married a white lady,
Speaker 1: do you okay? And then just like um when he
Speaker 1: got up there and he said, George Bush, do you
Speaker 1: like all the great people would never take the guy
Speaker 1: like Ice Q would have been a great president, but
Speaker 1: he won't even take the job no more. The guys
Speaker 1: who I look, you got to think would happen when okay,
Speaker 1: when Kanye came. Think about it, Kanye has more nuts
Speaker 1: than every rapper outside of Kendrick Lamar since two thousand
Speaker 1: and four. There's nobody that's even like. Puff is beating
Speaker 1: up every all the celebrities today. Puff is beating them up.
Speaker 1: Puff is threatening people. Puff was threatening Kanye like they
Speaker 1: argue when he liked talking to Puff, like do something
Speaker 1: to me. I'm looking like Puff is streny. Puff was
Speaker 1: not that nigger in my time when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: Puff was like nigg I will eat puff lunch. They
Speaker 1: gotta come with a fork and like what you're eating?
Speaker 1: Puff is like that to me, I eat puff fucking food. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not negatively, I'm just saying Puff is threatening Kanye.
Speaker 1: That's where we at in masculinity. Puff is the most mad.
Speaker 1: Puff punched out Drake, Puff choked out j Cole. Damn,
Speaker 1: they's just really I'm not joking, like like Puff is
Speaker 1: having fights with rappers. Puff. I didn't at the table
Speaker 1: when we were younger. Tough was like, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: with none of that. I don't want none of that
Speaker 1: that y'all got going on. I'm out of that. Oh man,
Speaker 1: Puff person with Sean right now? Brother, love is about love.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you see how you look, how you texts?
Speaker 1: We need to meet up. He told Kanye that Kanye
Speaker 1: posted the text. He's like, Hey, we need to get
Speaker 1: up in person, not on social I was like, who
Speaker 1: is that? Din't turned to Shug turning the ship, bro,
Speaker 1: you called texting people right? He said, we need to
Speaker 1: talk a person. Suck this social media ships funny? He
Speaker 1: told this social media we need to meet up first.
Speaker 1: I don't think they would keep playing puffed and put
Speaker 1: hands on Drake puffed and choked out j Coley for
Speaker 1: short plus Jake Drake pump ran up the club man
Speaker 1: s so Kanye. But I'm just I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it because I think Drake a fighter person.
Speaker 1: But that's not the point. What I'm saying is Yea
Speaker 1: is like the hardest guy since two thousand four not
Speaker 1: named Kendrick Lamar. I would think, with all due respect,
Speaker 1: me could be mad at me if I say this,
Speaker 1: But I think Yea is even colder than me. Like
Speaker 1: I think Yeah is more of some ship than me.
Speaker 1: Kids and Meek is like to proverb, your modern day
Speaker 1: street rapper. You be doing some ship man, he says
Speaker 1: some ship, and I don't agree with it. He'd be
Speaker 1: walking around today. He was in a South Central dinner
Speaker 1: eaten by himself. That's glasses, that's you. We say what
Speaker 1: we want to. The man got something I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. No, that's not about Kanye. That. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is I understand why we celebrate him, and we
Speaker 1: were going to the point of what I'm saying. If
Speaker 1: he ran for president, I would celebrate his music. No,
Speaker 1: I'm sick. No, because his music. You're talking about nbing
Speaker 1: for president. That's not a series. But I'm telling you
Speaker 1: if Dre does okay, it's a serious topic because if
Speaker 1: he goes on that ballot, people are not gonna not
Speaker 1: gonna win. You would, for sure, I thought he did.
Speaker 1: It was one of the most entertainly presser. You would
Speaker 1: only vote for Kaye because you knew he wouldn't win. No,
Speaker 1: I would vote Kanye if he could win, because what
Speaker 1: could be worse another old white man that's gonna lock
Speaker 1: us up? What else you want my vote for? Who is?
Speaker 1: Give me a white candidate that's better. I would vote,
Speaker 1: you know what, vote for Kanye over Kamala. They're not
Speaker 1: making those decisions. Would you vote for Kanye over Kamala?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. That's crazy. I'm not messing with Kamala. You're
Speaker 1: not being honest, Like you really like Kamala hair? Do
Speaker 1: you really like Kamala hands? That's her feel Her field
Speaker 1: was locking up niggas. That wasn't her, that was her field.
Speaker 1: But now all of a sudden she's qualified to be
Speaker 1: the president. Yeah, you'll do a better job president. I
Speaker 1: just think we don't have I think we don't have
Speaker 1: specialists anymore. That's my problem. I don't think we have
Speaker 1: good Honestly, it's gonna sound worse than I want to
Speaker 1: sound rich. I don't think we have really good human
Speaker 1: beings anymore. So like there's who is the new Martin
Speaker 1: Luther King? Dr Umar and he not listen, no, no,
Speaker 1: likesten think about where were at your look? But I
Speaker 1: said that I'll do anything to get you to stop
Speaker 1: talking about King. But listen, Dr. You can talk about listening.
Speaker 1: Dr Barr is hilarious. I'd say that he's listen, I'll
Speaker 1: watch your stand up special. Now if Umar now Umar
Speaker 1: rather president, I'm me and again, listen, I know he
Speaker 1: agains are be a better president of kind for black
Speaker 1: people for sure. Listen. I would love every all the
Speaker 1: six months to be president. That's I don't know, tragedy. Listen,
Speaker 1: we celebrate, We celebrate these people. Right, you're making this
Speaker 1: a micro conversation that could be a macro conversation. I
Speaker 1: understand it, and I'm not saying I'm telling you this
Speaker 1: is the Okay, this is the normal path since the
Speaker 1: beginning of time. What's the normal path? People allowing celebrities
Speaker 1: to cross spaceness, to cross space to show off greatness.
Speaker 1: But why they have to be limited to you saying
Speaker 1: that there's limits? Should I think? I think celebrities the
Speaker 1: enemy of expertise, and I think we should find ways
Speaker 1: to evaluate things that are actually rooted in any other
Speaker 1: type of logic. The celebrities should not be elevated like
Speaker 1: lady guy, I should not be able to do more
Speaker 1: for polar order. Should not be more quality, you know,
Speaker 1: be you know, entitled to the job more than someone
Speaker 1: who's spent their life study in that field, in that craft.
Speaker 1: And I feel like expertise actually exists. And I think
Speaker 1: we get into problems when we ain't got nothing else
Speaker 1: to pay attention to it. It's a pandemic and we're
Speaker 1: wondering what celebrity got vaccinated versus a medical expert. And
Speaker 1: I think, like, so we should have listened to Fauchi. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not listen. Why do you want to want to
Speaker 1: make it micro? I'm just saying this is a perfect example.
Speaker 1: If I'm talking about cripping, I'm talking to you, and
Speaker 1: you want to talk about is a profession that everybody
Speaker 1: be their expert? Like this one thing Falci is that
Speaker 1: you asked me listen, and I would trust Fauchi for
Speaker 1: medical attention more than I would trust you. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: give you none. But at the celebrity I wouldn't tell you.
Speaker 1: I would not listen people ask me about people ask
Speaker 1: me about vaccination. You know what I told him, You
Speaker 1: gotta shoot your own dice. I shoot my own dice.
Speaker 1: I respect that I'm not I don't respect respect that
Speaker 1: we talked about. I would never tell Mike Tyson about
Speaker 1: like I'd be like, this is my opinion, Mike oldest
Speaker 1: sport of what I shan So why are you endorsing Damn?
Speaker 1: I wish I didn't say it, because because there is
Speaker 1: no there's no experts and policies. Who is the best
Speaker 1: excellence in policy? Michelle Alexander is an expert in policy.
Speaker 1: As far as you know what I'm saying, mass incrospration. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that they become a will be a much better
Speaker 1: president than kind I think in a particular field. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying in any particular field. Like even if I
Speaker 1: don't like talking about politics, I don't believe in politics
Speaker 1: as an institution here, which is why I literally didn't
Speaker 1: even opten to the conversation. Sure, I think they're much
Speaker 1: more substance things that we can talk about that we
Speaker 1: exhaust celebrities in you know what I'm saying, And I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not I'm I'm listening. I would never
Speaker 1: I would never think of kind. I would never tell
Speaker 1: a celebrity run for president. But if you're going to
Speaker 1: put yourself on ballot, and it's a choice between you
Speaker 1: and an old white man, you pick him? Why would
Speaker 1: I not picky over another Biden? Tim? Would you pick
Speaker 1: y over another Biden? Time? See that's crazy? Okay, Yea,
Speaker 1: some hundred gallon should be cheaper. You ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: like yall something about my kids? I think, easy don't like.
Speaker 1: I think Yea is a great humanitarian. I think I think,
Speaker 1: I think for all where fails as a black man.
Speaker 1: This sounds worse. Let me just get my point. I
Speaker 1: think for all that he fails as a black representative.
Speaker 1: For you, where you like, I appreciate him as a
Speaker 1: black man, he succeeds at being a humanity, like a
Speaker 1: human like he is more of a global person, then
Speaker 1: he should belonged to us. Which that's my point. He
Speaker 1: never belongs to us. I mean as far as the
Speaker 1: gold of life, you had a family and meets your children.
Speaker 1: You know, he became a specials. He provided the world
Speaker 1: with great music to enjoy. Everybody has a great shoemaker
Speaker 1: is a great human if you make shoes for people
Speaker 1: like thinking about them old shoemakers, like I got some
Speaker 1: shoes customery cast me two. I walked into this room
Speaker 1: you were talking about, yes, everything. Yeah, he needs a
Speaker 1: DP because because he's he's disappointing black people. He's disappointing period. No,
Speaker 1: he's not. His music is great. Some people are not
Speaker 1: disappointed in ya. I'm as a black man because I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: don't embarrass this in front of the white people. Okay,
Speaker 1: so he's been doing this for for a while. I
Speaker 1: literally said, That's why I'm not mad. While I'm not
Speaker 1: saying we should be canceled, I'm not saying that she
Speaker 1: closed the bank. I'm saying we should bend had DP him.
Speaker 1: But we're not talking about yet. We're talking about these
Speaker 1: celebrity number matter what to have everything there. I agree
Speaker 1: with you. I think the problem is Rick like Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 1: I had to study Ronald Reagan's presidency a little bit
Speaker 1: more far making a judgment on that because as a
Speaker 1: black man, it's an f already. But I'm sure white
Speaker 1: people had to be somewhat happy for him. But what
Speaker 1: I'm thinking is where celebrity is going. I'm okay with
Speaker 1: where the celebrated that are talented is going. I'm okay
Speaker 1: because we've been there. We've been there with Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 1: We've been there with people that don't have a right,
Speaker 1: that don't have super excellence in that field, but they're
Speaker 1: still with successful. Kanye is a great shoemaker, even though
Speaker 1: he knows it about shoes. Okay, I'll if you have kids.
Speaker 1: So this is like, I want to use this analogy
Speaker 1: to make a point about celebrity, which it may actually
Speaker 1: apply to this, but just think about it in other spaces.
Speaker 1: If I told you and b person, you have to
Speaker 1: let somebody baby sit your kids. I have a babysitter
Speaker 1: you've never met, but who has whatever, has been a
Speaker 1: caretaker twenty years, impeccable record, never had anything, you know,
Speaker 1: never had a stain on the record. Versus your neighbor
Speaker 1: who's seventeen, don't know about kids, but you know them,
Speaker 1: who's babysitting your kids? My neighbor. Okay, my neighbor sitting
Speaker 1: my baby right now, what do you think about it?
Speaker 1: Because I know her, so I I know her intention,
Speaker 1: I know she knows me. I feel more comfortable with her.
Speaker 1: The other person. Yes, she's more qualified, but I don't
Speaker 1: know her to where I feel like, Okay, I can
Speaker 1: leave you in my home with my child, and I
Speaker 1: know that you have that love from my child. See
Speaker 1: this is also um we we live in the same community,
Speaker 1: so you see my baby all the time. My daughter
Speaker 1: gets happy when she sees you. This other person she
Speaker 1: doesn't know. Okay, yeah, you have all the qualifications, but
Speaker 1: who are you? That's how my daughter is going to
Speaker 1: be looking at her too, Like right, it's tough. But
Speaker 1: if I told you that the person who you think
Speaker 1: loves your kid makes something in the bottle because she
Speaker 1: didn't know anything, and then's something bad to your kid,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well I knew that person. That gives
Speaker 1: you like a plausible like you know, I mean it's
Speaker 1: about but it's separate from the area that we're talking
Speaker 1: about as far as like who would be more qualified,
Speaker 1: And it's like and I think, but that's actually but
Speaker 1: that's actually great that's that's damn near the only thing
Speaker 1: where Okay, I understand it, But it's like the same
Speaker 1: thing a mechanic's like, Yo, you got whoever? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, Yo, I got Madonna here? Hey Madonna,
Speaker 1: will you please fix my carburetor that she ain't working
Speaker 1: in what I'm saying, I'm gonna do this my whole life.
Speaker 1: I'm saying Devin Gates did it with no God damn
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What are we talking about? Facts? Facts?
Speaker 1: It's tough. But but the problem is also, like I said,
Speaker 1: back to your original point, who is really an expertise
Speaker 1: in these fields? Well, I think that ninety percent of
Speaker 1: the things we're talking about has a built in space. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that don't mean that experts in defeated. Also, it's
Speaker 1: but celebrity damn they're sure. Doesn't mean they're experts. Like
Speaker 1: I like to see. Okay, do you see a clip
Speaker 1: this week the Rock somebody passed their baby to Rock
Speaker 1: on the stage, like I Rock holding this baby. That
Speaker 1: is right. You ain't never seen Rocket. And Rock is
Speaker 1: gonna be the president one day, would you really think
Speaker 1: about it? Johnson is going to be the president. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm with you, but but you know,
Speaker 1: nothing gonna change in the rockets the president. We just
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be embarrassed. Don't make you feel good about whatever.
Speaker 1: And see, that's what I don't like about policies. Politics
Speaker 1: is all about not actually yielding result. It's about making people.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I like Trump. It's Trump a
Speaker 1: better president than Biden, but not based on why you
Speaker 1: keep doing that? Don't nobody want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying because I think sometimes it's dope to
Speaker 1: intererject fresh blood into the system like we keep falling into.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Rick, I agree. I will not let
Speaker 1: Madonna fix my car. I won't buy a pair of
Speaker 1: shoes from you. I've never had a pair of Jesus everyone.
Speaker 1: Some people love them. They tell me they're the greatest
Speaker 1: shooting and keep taking over the crop. Right. I'm not arguing,
Speaker 1: I'm just not buying the shoe from Kanye. I'm just
Speaker 1: only buying music from Kanye. Yes, because guess what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why, Because I know that it's not
Speaker 1: flaw I don't I have no faith in every white
Speaker 1: man training for the job I'd rather take my chances
Speaker 1: with Kanye then every white man that's ever trained for
Speaker 1: the job. I've never the last white man that I
Speaker 1: would have voted for as a president. It's probably Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think it's think about Abraham Lincoln
Speaker 1: is don't even fun with a Lincoln like that. I
Speaker 1: could go with Andrew Jackson. It's only about three white
Speaker 1: men that I would have proven one of them got
Speaker 1: knocked down. Would you would you vote for Peter for president? Before?
Speaker 1: Peter is a conservative? It might get rough, but no,
Speaker 1: you w Pet on tripping. I know Peter, I don't
Speaker 1: know Peter. Peter Beach feel like I'm not I don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about politics. I feel like we're not
Speaker 1: talking about politics. But I can get you to a point.
Speaker 1: But I think it's it's it's not that, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's people I would vote for over Kanye. It's just
Speaker 1: not the signed traditional white man structure that's been there.
Speaker 1: So I will vote for some white people. Why are
Speaker 1: we still talking about voting? Okay, so I'm gonna say celebrity.
Speaker 1: So when I buy a pair of shoes, when I
Speaker 1: buy a pair of shoes from Michael Jordan's that's a
Speaker 1: Michael shoot or Kanye Michael Jordan's for sure, Jordan hooped.
Speaker 1: Now he don't even make this shoot? But where not?
Speaker 1: Would you buy some jeans that Jordan wore? Okay, Yo,
Speaker 1: good points, good point? Help serious on a serious tip. Yo,
Speaker 1: sleep shout to sleep, sleeps in me. This We were
Speaker 1: talking about this other day because the same thing happens
Speaker 1: on Twitter every day. Like you see somebody who have
Speaker 1: no idea what their background is with their relationship things
Speaker 1: now tweets something that you feel like you identify with,
Speaker 1: like their relationship expert are counseling expert, and it's like
Speaker 1: we'll be in our group chat all time. It just
Speaker 1: drives us crazy because it feels like because in addition
Speaker 1: to celebrity culture, what happens is the stage has been
Speaker 1: erased and everybody's a celebrity. Everybody's That's why I'm with
Speaker 1: we have to stop Instagram. We have to stop right
Speaker 1: now because Jada would be the fucking president. He has
Speaker 1: no talents, So we have to stop with you. We
Speaker 1: need to stop. You need to do you stop liking
Speaker 1: your friends photos when they like I don't even don't.
Speaker 1: I will not give people. I treat my likes like money.
Speaker 1: I won't give you. If I won't give you five dollars,
Speaker 1: I won't like your picture. Okay, my life are more
Speaker 1: to me my likes. Like publicly, if I publicly endorse
Speaker 1: your ship, it's worth more than five dollars. I would
Speaker 1: rather give you a dollar than like your like like
Speaker 1: a post like I hate when people poke up. I'll
Speaker 1: be like, because I don't like your ship, because that's
Speaker 1: what it means. It means I'm endorsing what I feel.
Speaker 1: What you're saying. Well, I'm like that. So I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna just like something just because you posted it. If
Speaker 1: I don't like it, I'm not gonna know, like, like
Speaker 1: even just the theory of it, the idea of like, yo,
Speaker 1: when you go to the concert, it's not about the
Speaker 1: performance on the stage. Is about the fact that I'm
Speaker 1: here and that I actually my camera on It don't
Speaker 1: matter that there's a million dollar camera right there that
Speaker 1: you know the Amazon is recording it, like my my iPhone,
Speaker 1: I'll have a I have a six dollars on the
Speaker 1: camera in my hand shooting the dark, and I'm just
Speaker 1: like you, and I want to see this see this
Speaker 1: camera I have right here, cameras Like there's like in
Speaker 1: the race shirt, like what I'm saying. Like, in addition,
Speaker 1: it started with celebrities, but what's happened now is that
Speaker 1: every single person is being cety and we endorse it
Speaker 1: and we're like, yo, you're right, Yeah, it's about you,
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But with you, it's like I shut all
Speaker 1: that ship down. They'd be like sorry, I'd be like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not celebrating Ari. I'm not celebrating Jada. I'm not
Speaker 1: celebrating you just because some guys slept with you. I'm
Speaker 1: actually demoting you. You mean this guy didn't marry you.
Speaker 1: You're missing the point. I am agreeing with you from
Speaker 1: my own stance. Yeah, but I think when you make
Speaker 1: it about a specific persons, what happens is you're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about women defending out women. They're gonna say we
Speaker 1: all Jada didn't do nothing. I don't care. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to make this understand. Look, I was talking about
Speaker 1: shout out to Sleep. Sleep sent this in the group
Speaker 1: because we were talking about why do people endorse so
Speaker 1: many things for people that have not earned that merit
Speaker 1: in that space and so he sent me this thing
Speaker 1: he researches. It was like, this is this thing called
Speaker 1: the Dunning Kruger effect in psychology. It's a cognitive bias
Speaker 1: where people with limited knowledge of competence in a given
Speaker 1: intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or
Speaker 1: competence in that domain relative to objective criteria, which is
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, Like you know, like this is objective,
Speaker 1: Like this is you know what I mean, Like there's
Speaker 1: experts in everything, you know what I'm saying, or the
Speaker 1: performance of their peers or people in general, and so
Speaker 1: it's like one of those things is like somebody doesn't
Speaker 1: know anything would be more confident about something and will
Speaker 1: believe them because they're more confident. But when you know something,
Speaker 1: when you learn something about it, like you're more reserved
Speaker 1: and you know, you'll know that you don't know anything,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know that, like there's
Speaker 1: a long way way every time, even you know thought
Speaker 1: you the medical experts and I'm not completely sure, but
Speaker 1: this is why I believe this is what I think
Speaker 1: it's going to do to the proteins in the body.
Speaker 1: But somebody, but people, we have this culture now we're
Speaker 1: endorsing people like just send something, send something, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: how do you what is this? Like why are you
Speaker 1: sending me this? This is how do you know this
Speaker 1: is real? Because yeah, like what is this? And make
Speaker 1: people feel good? No, but to new body, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is not real. Like the thing where they were staying
Speaker 1: with um what was it? The people were taking the
Speaker 1: money off the car and that's how they know the
Speaker 1: women is going to get picked up or whatever. And
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, so they leave some money on
Speaker 1: the windshield. Yeah, like leaving the money on the windshield
Speaker 1: or whatever, but or just taking like a certain piece
Speaker 1: of something. They'll cut it off and then they'll send
Speaker 1: it around. And it's like, but you don't even have
Speaker 1: the full story, the full pictures. Who has time for
Speaker 1: the full story? Not not me? I have time, but
Speaker 1: it's like it's not I have to be reading about
Speaker 1: it for two days. But it's like everybody can't see
Speaker 1: you everything, Like there's limited access to the whole world
Speaker 1: be open, Like people have access too much information and
Speaker 1: they have no discernment on figuring out I don't even
Speaker 1: know if you know what you're right, there's no way
Speaker 1: to Knowle's see, that's me. I have more time. They
Speaker 1: don't have the time like people would. You just don't
Speaker 1: have to. People I'm want to find out are drawn.
Speaker 1: I mean two things that aren't even like it's not
Speaker 1: about like people. But that's like basketball. It's like sports.
Speaker 1: People think they know basketball because they saw the highlights.
Speaker 1: Who in lights doesn't who ESPN makes their money. They
Speaker 1: don't even show as many games as they show highlights.
Speaker 1: But that's real though. Yeah, but I'm telling you that's
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. Like, right, the highlight of something
Speaker 1: like we're talking about like social media is they had
Speaker 1: like Twitter is the headline king, Right, You're gonna see
Speaker 1: headlines on Instagram. You don't have any context to the story,
Speaker 1: just headlines. But that's that's conveynced. Is the killer of quality.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, So the conveyance of a headline right
Speaker 1: kills the quality of the story. Now, the story is
Speaker 1: the most important thing, but you have to have time.
Speaker 1: The reality is we find a thousand things and today's time, right,
Speaker 1: So we're always looking for somebody else to do the
Speaker 1: work for us. That's why we look to celebrities because
Speaker 1: we genuinely feel like they're doing the work for us, right,
Speaker 1: so not glass. But also you said you likes you
Speaker 1: also find with the mascots, and that's the thing I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but I'm saying, but I'm saying because they
Speaker 1: don't even if they represent it. I'm not worried about
Speaker 1: what a stranger thinks of being the crypt I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to convey to you who I am. Like, if
Speaker 1: you think that's what it is, more power to you.
Speaker 1: So so like that's what I'm saying, But you don't
Speaker 1: care about the accurate, accurate representation of the things you
Speaker 1: most care about. And that's what I'm saying, Like that's
Speaker 1: that to me, it's a little you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I get super anal about the things that I
Speaker 1: love and care about and about the specificity of the
Speaker 1: thing is. I can walk into a room, I can
Speaker 1: tell you what the light temperature is, I can tell
Speaker 1: you you know, that's how I feel about Kanye with
Speaker 1: hip hop. I'll be like, but also but it's like
Speaker 1: it's like I feel like I hate the term gatekeepers
Speaker 1: and it's like one of those Internet words and people
Speaker 1: just do it all the time. But At the same time,
Speaker 1: I feel like with each individual space, people need to
Speaker 1: be more protective of m but like actually correct Like
Speaker 1: I'm more like letting everybody change it and say whatever
Speaker 1: it's like, Like if you're saying a little like the
Speaker 1: mask mascots aren't basketball, we know that, but but people
Speaker 1: don't know that little you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I'm not a trust me.
Speaker 1: Most people know little Way and it's not a gang member.
Speaker 1: They do they look at him as a mascot. The
Speaker 1: most people, no, they no, they don't because they don't
Speaker 1: know what a gang banger is. There's more, there's no
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I'm telling you there from the same Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you listen, if I studied, listen, the masses
Speaker 1: cannot have a true understanding of gangs. It's virtually impossible,
Speaker 1: no matter what, no matter how many times I explain it,
Speaker 1: people are not going to gather the thought. It's just
Speaker 1: not their specialty, is not their field. So therefore saying that,
Speaker 1: does that apply to every field? That people aren't going
Speaker 1: to have a you know, so we just minded the
Speaker 1: list lebrities do everything because you're saying no, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I just say Kanye should be president, but
Speaker 1: I'm saying I was. At this point, it's like I
Speaker 1: would like things to be fiercely defended by the people
Speaker 1: who know it. I think the policies are the one
Speaker 1: thing that I don't care about being defended. I would
Speaker 1: love to see multiple people as the president I need.
Speaker 1: I think we want to see this just for the
Speaker 1: experience of it all. You just want to see what
Speaker 1: I want to see what kind of job you would do.
Speaker 1: But I am so unimpressed. I don't even recall. Probably
Speaker 1: the last guy was John Kennedy. Can't talk about anything
Speaker 1: other than politics. I don't I love game banging. I
Speaker 1: don't love gang bang. I mean I love to go
Speaker 1: back to the Little Wayne thing. I think most people
Speaker 1: think Little Wayne is a blood but they know he's
Speaker 1: not actively out there pursuing problems. They know he's not
Speaker 1: actively out there selling drugs like they're very aware of that.
Speaker 1: He's a cultural representative. He was a superstar. Then they
Speaker 1: didn't think that. Then nobody thinks Little Wayne is spending
Speaker 1: the blocks, Like right now, that's the case, then we
Speaker 1: should stop Drake from talking about spending the block because
Speaker 1: you think somebody really right now, I think Drake is
Speaker 1: spinning the block. He has I think so he's shoking
Speaker 1: at that point. What am I supposed to do? Be like,
Speaker 1: if you think Drake is spinning the fucking block, how
Speaker 1: can you You're dumb? Where the pod d Drake? Drake
Speaker 1: is the most He didn't say that said that, but
Speaker 1: go ahead, I'm saying, Drake says all kind of ship
Speaker 1: like we hit your block up and they wasn't outside,
Speaker 1: Like you did not hit anybody, Drake. Drake is funny
Speaker 1: you mentioned Drake. I think Drake is interesting. He's the
Speaker 1: only celebrity that I believe that because I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of the celebrities also concurrently get judged for
Speaker 1: their actual life outside of what they actually do, and
Speaker 1: Drake is the only person who's like immune to all
Speaker 1: of that. Drake. It's a lot of committ tory lanes
Speaker 1: Canadian too. I'm saying, everybody, he just so it's like
Speaker 1: a number. I'm saying, No, I got meg and he
Speaker 1: didn't try to shoot it. Call them nights, you know,
Speaker 1: like he was trying to show off and like shooting
Speaker 1: at the ground at their feet and hit their feet. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what That's what probably happen. Okay, probably because I
Speaker 1: wasn't probably got capitals so good. Yeah, that you started me. Listen.
Speaker 1: I thought he was the wrong way because I would
Speaker 1: have just came out like like quick, like in Harlem Nights.
Speaker 1: I was busting at her feet. She called me a
Speaker 1: little bit, so I let her know what's happening. She
Speaker 1: was the bit. That was his mistake, tying knew what happened.
Speaker 1: They just blame me for nothing. The boy that this crazy.
Speaker 1: They's got to get more gen man. I think ultimately,
Speaker 1: like we hold sometimes it's like will exhaust celebrities on
Speaker 1: things that they have no credibility, and but also we'll
Speaker 1: judge them outside of that space. Everybody but Drake. I
Speaker 1: feel like even you judging what Kim Kardashian has done
Speaker 1: to be worthy celebrity like Drake. People love his music.
Speaker 1: Drake is a talented and he's cold. He might be
Speaker 1: and he's cold to making music, but he's the only
Speaker 1: person who doesn't have any rules for his actual life.
Speaker 1: He could be that he could because everybody's no, he's
Speaker 1: not doing anything. I don't think that's the Drake when
Speaker 1: he got in the back football players, he's looking up
Speaker 1: at him like he got a crush their bawling on
Speaker 1: the court. You ever see that picture? Who was who
Speaker 1: arm was he under? He was under somebody arm. He
Speaker 1: was looking at like he had a crush on everyone else.
Speaker 1: But these are all Kanye's kids. Kanye Kanye were talking
Speaker 1: about Kanye being sucked up because he wants us to
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, he wants us to. Drake makes no
Speaker 1: statements about nothing going on to happen to black people.
Speaker 1: That's not he won't even say. It's everyone else and
Speaker 1: everyone else get in because Drake is Canadian. He's a jewels,
Speaker 1: a Canadian Jewish person. But does that mean he's he's
Speaker 1: a Jewish person. I can say nigger, but he's absolutely
Speaker 1: within our culture. He's not. He is Madonna as a rapper,
Speaker 1: male rappers. He goes around yea. So it's the way
Speaker 1: it should be. It's perfect. He's a colonizer sound like
Speaker 1: mcdonnad wait, but everybody else but Donna gets judged for
Speaker 1: the snow. We don't. Madonna didn't. Everybody ain't. None of
Speaker 1: us called Madonna. Who ever Donna had slept with everybody,
Speaker 1: and none of us called him. White people don't ain't
Speaker 1: no sisters ever called mcdonnahoe. Only white people. White people
Speaker 1: like she's she's satan. Black people love Mdonna Toopacas, fucking Madonna,
Speaker 1: Dannis rob News, sucking Madonna. They all knocked her down
Speaker 1: back to back. People love Madonna, especially us. We don't
Speaker 1: look at Drake as a representative. He doesn't speak for us.
Speaker 1: He doesn't speak with us. He speaks actually for black
Speaker 1: got another black woman. Black women gave Drake his past,
Speaker 1: Kanye his past is all of them. It's still so no.
Speaker 1: I think Drake should not. Drake should dut he's doing
Speaker 1: make great songs and keep being corny. And now he
Speaker 1: started day middle aged white he's starting to day. You
Speaker 1: ain't noticed that he did threw y'all away, got all
Speaker 1: middle aged white women. Now, I ain't gonna look at it.
Speaker 1: I've been looking at He've been looking at people look
Speaker 1: like that. I'm not lying. I've been noticing that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's gonna feel betrayed. They're going to feel betrayed as
Speaker 1: a person. Drake got that white lady pregny music. They
Speaker 1: used to do porn like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like people of a person like Drake got that white
Speaker 1: lady pregnant that used to do porn exactly, And if
Speaker 1: Jacole Kendrick did that, that's different. It would be the
Speaker 1: end of the world. Not if Jacole did it. JAKEO
Speaker 1: can get away with Jacole. If Jacole married a white person,
Speaker 1: Nigga be talking ship for two days to be like
Speaker 1: that makes sense. He didn't know Kendrick cooked. If Kendrick
Speaker 1: tried to talk to a people that's looking at when
Speaker 1: Nigga when is black, maybe like man, she kind of
Speaker 1: liked that. I don't know, like Davey old cousin about
Speaker 1: the color of his old laggers stand that. But I'm
Speaker 1: saying that Jacole the same way Jacole woman. I Jacole
Speaker 1: Jacole's mama. And I don't think he could get away.
Speaker 1: I think jo could. He couldn't get away with Drake
Speaker 1: get away with but he can get away with way
Speaker 1: like Kanye Kanye get away. If Kanye ge get away
Speaker 1: with it, Kanye can get away with Mary. Kim kardash
Speaker 1: Nils was looking at you like a like we already
Speaker 1: thought he announced it. I'm telling you certain people that's
Speaker 1: because since two thousand four. Forgive me for saying this.
Speaker 1: This is probably the worst thing I said period. This
Speaker 1: is the bitch nigga era. And I don't mean it
Speaker 1: the way we used to talk about like I mean literally,
Speaker 1: guys who act like metro sexuals, they use the same
Speaker 1: woman's lingo, they are like women like. That's really the truth.
Speaker 1: And these are all his offsprings kid cut him. Look
Speaker 1: how you threw that tantrum on stage. I just throw
Speaker 1: some around getting off the stage to jumped off stage.
Speaker 1: Whoop that nigga ass masculinity. That's the point I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This is the era of ship we're in, Like dot
Speaker 1: is the last thing everybody. Cole was arguing with a
Speaker 1: lady on Twitter, arguing with her sister like, yes, that's
Speaker 1: some ship that no scar face with out to throw
Speaker 1: a scar face albums out. Well, if he would argue
Speaker 1: with a woman on Twitter and me arguing with her
Speaker 1: and all that, man, you better Dr Dre d Borne
Speaker 1: slapped this lady. I can't deal without you. I am dead. Seriously,
Speaker 1: I like, I like the streets. The streets. If you
Speaker 1: are the representative of masculinity, representative, do not me doing Yes,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. When he talked, he popped at that
Speaker 1: straight level like, yeah, watch what you say to me.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's right to hear the woman. That's
Speaker 1: not the point. I'm saying. You ain't got no business
Speaker 1: arguing with her on Twitter. I'd rather stag to jail
Speaker 1: getting trouble for it. Do you arguing with this lady?
Speaker 1: Like like, are y'all arguing about? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: The fund is going on? I care that bothers me.
Speaker 1: I like black masculinity to be represented strong blade. These
Speaker 1: dudes are not look at what's going on talking on Twitter.
Speaker 1: It's probably not the best use of what you're saying.
Speaker 1: It is true. Everybody, every brothers I knew, every brother
Speaker 1: I knew was mad. They was like, why is he
Speaker 1: argued this lady on Twitter? They were talking about something
Speaker 1: that's up to that that collected call harder to people
Speaker 1: call her, call her. Don't be arguing with this lady
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I'm not. I don't cuss her out and
Speaker 1: marking her out and then she's marking him out and
Speaker 1: all that. Now just look crazy. Fun is going on.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember the back of you. Remember you
Speaker 1: remember you remember your was like Oh my god, they're
Speaker 1: doing that a lot, you guys. That's because niggas is
Speaker 1: on some girls ship. The arguing with females a lot. Yes,
Speaker 1: Can I say like that female don't even like when
Speaker 1: you argue with them? No, I'm just saying, like, why
Speaker 1: are you arguing with you? Ever met a woman that
Speaker 1: like you to argue with her? Listen, don't even like
Speaker 1: they even want to do two things slap them or
Speaker 1: walk away. That sounds way harder than I want. But
Speaker 1: they respect you if you start playing them like that
Speaker 1: before you up there be arguing with them where you
Speaker 1: did this? Oh, they hate when you bring up they ship.
Speaker 1: Do not ever try to hold a woman accountable. That's
Speaker 1: what these new dudes do. These new dudes try to
Speaker 1: hold women accountable. You cannot. We have created a space.
Speaker 1: We have created a space masculinity since his existence has
Speaker 1: created a space for women to be unaccountable. It's our fault.
Speaker 1: Women are fighting to be accountable, except they don't actually
Speaker 1: want you to hold them accountable, and they're not gonna
Speaker 1: hold their self accountable. So therefore it's not an argument
Speaker 1: you can never make. You should never make that argument.
Speaker 1: Too many celebrities trying to do that. People, look what
Speaker 1: she did. Nobody cares what she did. What did you do?
Speaker 1: They don't get that. That's why they'd be so mad.
Speaker 1: You don't care what she did. No, man, A lot
Speaker 1: of people celebrate it, so they think that it's okay.
Speaker 1: Nobody thinks it's okay to certain people, they do. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's a man breathing air that think it's okay.
Speaker 1: A woman that seeing man argue with his men like
Speaker 1: that's I don't think no young lady think it's okay.
Speaker 1: They don't respect that. Man. They don't nobody respect that.
Speaker 1: No matter what they say. They want a certain things. Rick,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think celebrities head into a
Speaker 1: bad space. So we need to kill it now. No,
Speaker 1: we need to kill it now because it's gonna get bad.
Speaker 1: It's gonna it's gonna get work because right now we
Speaker 1: got people like the thing that makes you goddamn time
Speaker 1: he brought this nigga, the thing that makes you especially
Speaker 1: at least you know how to assemble a team to
Speaker 1: do the job. He's gonna find virgins, and if he
Speaker 1: was running for president, he'll find a virgil of politics.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing I give him credit. The problem is,
Speaker 1: but that's when you That's like Dre. When Drey scoring
Speaker 1: a movie, he gonna find the guy in the movie.
Speaker 1: Like the smarter ones, they gonna find the guys Puff
Speaker 1: was doing. Uh Sean John, he wouldn't found the best stop.
Speaker 1: You put your team together, you put your tenure. The
Speaker 1: people who have no discipline or know how to achieve
Speaker 1: nothing won't do that. I'm telling you, Ari could be
Speaker 1: the president one day. The lady that them do the
Speaker 1: two rapper dudes slept with herbo and and uh money
Speaker 1: bag yo. She can end up being the president one day.
Speaker 1: And she has no talent. I'm not this, not this
Speaker 1: and how I'm not saying we don't celebrate her talents.
Speaker 1: We she's popular and celebrated because she's the person currently
Speaker 1: sleeping with money bag yo. Jada is popular because she
Speaker 1: had a child with somebody. We celebrate like celebration, like
Speaker 1: celebrities being passed tweezy. It's contagious. It's almost like it's music.
Speaker 1: I mean, can I just listen to music and not
Speaker 1: celebrate the person? Is it really good music? I'm just
Speaker 1: us I'm saying, how can we not celebrate ice cube
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but it's not the Ice Cubes music. No, No,
Speaker 1: we celebrates Cube because he is the person behind the music,
Speaker 1: but the persons, but they exist in a separate space.
Speaker 1: I would like. I wish, I wish like so I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to bring this. I wish that they can
Speaker 1: exist in a separate space where you create people. Artists
Speaker 1: say all the time, you create something you don't felt,
Speaker 1: and then it's you know, you give it to the
Speaker 1: world and everybody as soon as it happens. As soon
Speaker 1: as they musically don't exist, you can't listen to music.
Speaker 1: So it's like we created a space to where I
Speaker 1: was gonna say a word that I don't get sure
Speaker 1: distort the actual thing that we're doing. It's like and
Speaker 1: I even I even disagree, just like the when people
Speaker 1: say support this, it's like, I don't want you two
Speaker 1: out of charity, buy some of my art, or go
Speaker 1: watch my movie. I'm gonna make a movie that I
Speaker 1: believe is gonna be entertaining. If you're entertained by you're
Speaker 1: gonna pay your money. And that was a good cost.
Speaker 1: Now at this point, I'm not asking you to support
Speaker 1: me because I'm the same color as you or because
Speaker 1: that it matters. But I think ultimately because the reason
Speaker 1: I dislike it is because me stop. I think it
Speaker 1: never stopped. It's okay or something for the sake, Like
Speaker 1: you can support your kids, like I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: my kid and they sing it. They can't really see,
Speaker 1: but they in the choir. I'm gonna support them because
Speaker 1: that's my seat. I brought them in there. But you're
Speaker 1: not gonna say, like y'all, I'm gonna give him recording contract,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay you what I'm saying. Whatever. Some people
Speaker 1: do that mepotism to a point I think could be
Speaker 1: encouraging myself community. So I don't want to say this
Speaker 1: is against the time qualities, quality, And I feel like
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like I want you to watch on a
Speaker 1: movie because it's good. I don't want you to watch
Speaker 1: it because I didn't find some type of way. And
Speaker 1: I feel like that leaves the space to where like
Speaker 1: there was like you know, there's a discourse on Twitter
Speaker 1: where you're talking about with the support everything Black movement,
Speaker 1: you lose the idea that you get to create something
Speaker 1: of quality. You can't vote on quality, you can't vote
Speaker 1: on things that you like for the actual merits of
Speaker 1: the filmmaker. And I listen to people I respect, like
Speaker 1: Abra Douveing, they talk about I wish critics talked about
Speaker 1: not what I represent, but the actual quality of the
Speaker 1: you know. But but I am that person. I am
Speaker 1: that person, like I am a fair judge of things, right,
Speaker 1: But that's people don't have time. But that's you're never
Speaker 1: going to get that because you have to have time.
Speaker 1: Everything that we are at this table, you haven't thought
Speaker 1: you have to have time to like you have to
Speaker 1: talk because taste is development, But I think you have to.
Speaker 1: Like when we all those kids, we all like Sherbet.
Speaker 1: As adults, we think that ship tastes horrible. Now I
Speaker 1: don't think I know nobody over thirty who like Sherbet.
Speaker 1: And if you if you like Rainbow over thirty year immaturity,
Speaker 1: you started liking walnuts. Think about that. When you as
Speaker 1: a kid, most people don't even like pecans. But now
Speaker 1: as a grown up, you're like pecan in your ice cream.
Speaker 1: Your taste developed, So you have to have time. Like
Speaker 1: taste doesn't just develop because it existing taste, because you
Speaker 1: start to refine knowledge and information like some people's favorite
Speaker 1: flavor is still rainbow Sherbet. They haven't took the time
Speaker 1: to develop taste. You have to take time. I agree
Speaker 1: with you, that's why. But back to your points. The
Speaker 1: reason they trust celebrities because they already found a reason
Speaker 1: to celebrate them. So they feel like, Okay, you're expert
Speaker 1: of field, right, so there's like he has a better chance. Now.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, but I think in the presidential space,
Speaker 1: which we're not talking about politics even right now, in
Speaker 1: the shoes space, yeah, it's killing me because who really
Speaker 1: is a fire shoe designer? What's on them? Seeing outside
Speaker 1: of the Kanye West shoes? Honestly, honestly, and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying not. I've been going to a Vantage Converse, Vans, Cortests.
Speaker 1: I've been sticking with the classes because I look at
Speaker 1: shoes as my taste is refined. I got I had
Speaker 1: to do make me some shoes they call dred. He
Speaker 1: made them for me. You don't like I love them?
Speaker 1: Yes I do, because he customly made them for me.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna argue with the women like these
Speaker 1: shoes is better than all your shoes because they don't
Speaker 1: know ship. I mean somethings are completely subjective. I had
Speaker 1: this conversation Rock with You is the greatest Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: song if you understand what the word great, but it
Speaker 1: is to people because you know why people was talking
Speaker 1: about black and white. Yes, this is the world we
Speaker 1: live in. And then I explained that Thriller is Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson's worst record. And it sounds crazy, right because as
Speaker 1: soon as you think of Thriller, you automatically think of
Speaker 1: the greatest music video in the history of fucking music video. Right,
Speaker 1: But there's people that's like Thrill. I'm like, don't nobody
Speaker 1: even know the words of Thriller. If anybody at this
Speaker 1: table were seen the words of Thriller, every word, I
Speaker 1: get a hundred dollars. You're gonna get stuck before you
Speaker 1: get the first verse, because don't nobody know what the
Speaker 1: funk he talking about. That song was actually called Starlight.
Speaker 1: That's so nobody can do nobody talking about he though
Speaker 1: he couldn't. He don't know that ship. That song was
Speaker 1: called Starlight. That was a melody. They changed a couple
Speaker 1: of words and made Thriller. That ship don't even make sense.
Speaker 1: It was the last single you can make this point.
Speaker 1: And I can literally express to why I'm saying this.
Speaker 1: I can go through all of the records. Yes, but
Speaker 1: Baby Money worse than Thriller. And I don't like Baby
Speaker 1: be Mine. I like Thriller, but it's not It's not
Speaker 1: a greater song Thriller. It's this worst song because it's
Speaker 1: it's worst record as a composite, like how you compose
Speaker 1: a record. It's like, not because what the fund is
Speaker 1: the song about? What the fuck is Thriller about? It
Speaker 1: wasn't even a Halloween song. No, I'm not mad. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying what it's thriller about? Because what the fund
Speaker 1: is going on? And you know what somebody said, And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how you knew. They knew it
Speaker 1: was the worst song. They was like, man, we're not
Speaker 1: gonna put out this song. It's the last single. Most
Speaker 1: people don't know that that's the seventh or age single
Speaker 1: on Thriller. Somebody was like, man, they came up with
Speaker 1: a video. They're like, we're gonna put this out because
Speaker 1: we got this video. That's it. But if you tell
Speaker 1: people that day like Thriller, I know that song, and
Speaker 1: I'm an expert in music, this is what I funk
Speaker 1: with this, I funk with records. I could tell you
Speaker 1: Billy Jane is a whole of note stolen song, and
Speaker 1: I never got told that. Because I fucking study records,
Speaker 1: I can tell you. Don't stop to you getting up,
Speaker 1: it's a knockoff Marvin Gay song. Excuse me not, don't stop.
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, no, no, no no, that's Marvin Gay.
Speaker 1: Got to give it up. I know what the fund
Speaker 1: is going on. Thriller is the baseline for Jason right now.
Speaker 1: Marvin gazing state don't play. They can't because guess what
Speaker 1: it is. Because Chrissy Jones is the best at changing
Speaker 1: up to three notes and it's done. You lost. She's
Speaker 1: a music asker that should get crazy you changed up
Speaker 1: a couple of chords, it's night and day and they'd
Speaker 1: be like, that's my song. Like now it's not. Brother.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is, even as an expert of records,
Speaker 1: as an expert crip, I mean cripping. Now, golf fifteen,
Speaker 1: I'm working on thirty years. Soon, three or four years,
Speaker 1: I'll be thirty years of this cripping. Not to mention,
Speaker 1: I grew up in it before I was one. Nika
Speaker 1: is still arguing about cripping. I don't know nothing about
Speaker 1: crip and I'll be like, dog, I am an expert
Speaker 1: in cripping. I agree with you. Social media. The Internet
Speaker 1: has created people where it's a ton of information that
Speaker 1: people don't have enough of it. I remember, dude, I
Speaker 1: explained the Tupac story to the t and he's like, man,
Speaker 1: that ship sound made up. That gets the real story.
Speaker 1: Because everybody's a fucking spurt now. Everybody desires to be celebrated.
Speaker 1: Except none of these people are specialists in nothing. They're
Speaker 1: not special. They don't even care. They don't have enough time.
Speaker 1: Every human special, but you have to have a time
Speaker 1: to develop what you're special that they don't. People get
Speaker 1: pregnant at thirteen and have kids, and then you gotta
Speaker 1: get a job, and then they got to get a place,
Speaker 1: and then they're still trying to catch up with being
Speaker 1: a kid. So they're going to the club. They don't
Speaker 1: have enough time to develop being special. I was selling
Speaker 1: drugs developing being special, selling Rocks Chilling's reading How to
Speaker 1: Be Special. So if if motherfucker's don't respect why you
Speaker 1: can celebrate glasses malone for sure. Anybody that they celebrate.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go too hard for Kim Kardashi and the
Speaker 1: funk around to be a president one day. Do you
Speaker 1: understand what that's gonna mean? Would you vote for Kim
Speaker 1: Kardashian or Kanye West for president? Good looking out for
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