WEBVTT - Crowning Moment 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.400 Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Maller 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:07.200 Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific, Ka boom. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.640 If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.160 was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants of 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:18.840 the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.720 crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.799 pill poppers in the penthouse the clearing House of Hot 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.560 takes break free for something special. The fifth Hour with 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:36.199 Ben Maller starts right now. It is audio poetry in motion, 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:41.599 unless it's not. We are in the air everywhere, coast 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:47.880 to coast, border to border and beyond the magic of podcasting, because, 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.440 as you know, the four hours on the overnight during 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.280 the week not enough. We do this now eight days 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.760 a week. This our Friday podcast, and it is an 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.320 interview podcast. We didn't do one last week because we 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:04.119 gave political predictions, which of course went wonderfully unless they didn't. 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:06.920 But this week we are back at it with our 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:11.399 interview Fridays, and yet again we're gonna welcome in from 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:16.640 west of the four oh five David Gascon making his 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.640 way in here. He's right there. There is and uh 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.800 over here on the west side, yes, west west of 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:27.720 the four oh five, and we have today Gascon, a 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:32.679 guy that I have known for ever and ever and 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.399 ever and ever and ever and ever, and one of 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:39.000 my former producers. This is actually someone that made a 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:43.200 name for himself after leaving your show. One of the 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:49.120 many people that have crossed my cross my path that 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.840 have gone on and been very charismatic and charming on 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:57.080 the radio and haven't had fascinating careers. And I know 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.080 that bothers. You guesscon when you hear about people that 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:04.600 have just magnetic personalities and do wonderful things that have 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.640 have crossed my path. Here, I'd say more along the 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:12.960 lines of slingshotting past you. Well, uh, I am excited. 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.520 So David Vasse for those of you maybe not in 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.440 l A, David, if you're in l A and you 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:19.359 listen to radio, you know who David Vasse is because 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.520 he's been on Dodging Talk for years and he's been 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.000 on radio. He was the producer of the Petrols and 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.280 Money Show. He did the Ben and Dave Show, one 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.720 of the iconic nine nineties radio shows back in the day. 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.200 But more recently, David Vesse has been the host of 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:39.200 Dodger Talk pregame, does the pre game, the postgame show 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:44.360 on k l A c a M five seventy Dodger Radio. 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.320 And he's also on television. He fills in on the 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:52.919 TV network for the Dodgers. He's on MLB network. He's 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.960 a renaissance man, is what he is, a guest on 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:01.680 David vs. A renaissance man. He's like a Swiss army knife, 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.200 and he knows where all the bodies are buried in 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:09.120 my life. He knows many of the early stories because 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:13.239 he was around in the old days, the old l 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.200 A radio wars back. And then he's also a disciple 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:20.280 to the great Joel Mcdonalton l A radio icon. Did 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:25.480 you ever know Joe McDonald did past unfortunately? Okay, the 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.880 big Nasty He hosted Afternoon Drive and it was it 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.200 was great with DUCKR. Corn for years did it by himself, 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.800 worked at like every radio station in l A. And 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:38.120 he was the the Mike Francessa of the West Coast, 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:42.320 the beacon of l A sports radio. And so I 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.080 worked with Joe for a few years and knew him 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.240 for a long time, and so I say was it 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.480 was around him, and so I'm excited to talk to him. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.040 He did Dodger talk. They win the World Series this year, 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.400 so this is a way to suck up to him. Oh, 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.280 he likes to bust my balls gas gun. This guy 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.440 VSA likes to take shots me, which is gratuite his 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.200 cheap shots by him. How does it fill? He doesn't 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.120 live west of the four or five, though I don't think. 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.440 Uh wait a minute, I think he does. He lives 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.120 out I don't see where he lives, but he lives 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.760 in the San Fernando Valley, which I believe is west 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:20.120 of the four olds. The reason why he might be 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.240 north enough where the four or five has already ended, 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.240 I'm not sure. I gotta look at the map. Keep 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:30.960 but yeah, look at your electoral map and find it. Yeah. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:34.000 So before we get into of s a cameo cameo 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.560 cameo dot com. You want to personalized video message, We're 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.760 on cameo. Look my name up, Ben Maller and we've 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.880 done a number of those. We'd love to do one 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:43.800 for you if you want for a special event. He 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:48.800 got a birthday, a wedding, an engagement, you name it. Kid, 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.599 you just want me to rant and rave the ridiculous, 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.440 most ridiculous one I did with somebody wanted me to 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.040 praise the Lakers, so I had to do that. It 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.800 was awkward, was cringeworthy, that was terrible. That's on cameo 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.920 that's available to you. Uh. And also all the social 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:08.200 media channels Ben Maller on Twitter, Ben Mallard Show on Facebook, 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:12.200 Ben Maller on Fox, on Instagram, and remember very important, 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:16.520 Every Wednesday, on our Facebook page Ben Maller Show, I 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:20.560 will pose questions for our Sunday mail Bag. So if 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.080 you want to get a question in usually Sunday mail Bag, 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.240 we do it there. And guess God, you're available on 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.600 Twitter and Instagram. Right, You're not on Facebook, but you're 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.279 on Twitter and Instagram. Don't forget Benny versus the Penning tonight. 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.760 If you're listening to the Sucker first thing this morning 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.080 or at the middle of the day, that's right, Benny 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.919 versus the penny marginal NFL handicapping. And I want you 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.960 to know guesscon that I have purchased It probably will 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.440 not be here in time for tonight, but I have 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.440 purchased something that will make it seem much more professional 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.200 and I had a pretty good idea of what it is. Yes, 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.359 I was not planning on doing this, but I was 0:05:54.400 --> 0:06:00.280 bullied into it because my wife watched the video and said, 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.560 why does guess looks so much better than you look? Um. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:06.960 I tried to tell you that last week, but you 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:11.800 weren't having any of it. So I'm a simple man, 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:17.440 a mule, that's what you are. I don't need bells 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:21.880 and whistles and all that. I said that, there's nothing 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:26.320 wrong with driving a Toyota camera goods from point A 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.200 to point B. You're just gonna make sure that it 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:33.160 actually has the paint on, no chips, the windshields not cracked, 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.880 the windshield wipers work. It's fine, We're not We don't 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:38.760 need all the bells and whistles, but we need to 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.880 look aesthetically please appeasing at times. Well, I like that. 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.920 You didn't like kind of wait until I got said thing. 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.839 You just went for it, so you then looked amazingly 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.880 better than I did. And you, you know, just it's 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.600 a little lokward. Well no, actually, to be frank with you, 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:02.320 I had ordered said divide it's back in July, and 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.120 it was defected ahead to return it and it took 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.599 me three and a half months to get it back. 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:12.880 But well, yeah, well I I I purchased said device 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.560 because I don't even know it will be the right device. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:18.520 It might be I got the wrong one, but it 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.920 it should be here in a couple of days, so 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.960 it's I ordered it from a different place. That We've 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.320 been very vague here we have we have Vessey standing by, 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.840 So why don't we stop talking here? Right, we'll we'll 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.840 welcome in the man of the hour. See how many 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.720 times he bust my balls here and give it up 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:42.360 now to David Vasse from Dodger Radio and he joins 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.360 us now on the fifth Hour with Ben Maller and 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:50.720 David Gascon and David Vasse welcome, and so how did 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:54.360 the Dodgers winning the World Series change your life? David 0:07:55.200 --> 0:08:00.640 absolutely has not changed one bit. There's nothing that has changed, 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.640 nothing at all. But everyone, I've had people email me 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:07.800 because I like to you know, Dodger fan and all 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:09.320 that stuff. You're around the team. You've been around the 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.720 team for how many usually been doing this? By the way, 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.960 this was my ninth season that I finished being part 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:21.040 of the Dodgers Radio broadcast. Nine seasons my god, it's 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.360 you're now do you get next year over your tenth 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.920 so you get like a gold watch or something like that. 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.040 When you reach the tenure mark. What kind of prize 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:32.839 do you get? Um? You know what, maybe a free 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:37.199 Dodger dog. I think that's about it. Yeah, well they 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:41.360 give those out anyway, though, I think that exactly nothing special. 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.840 I just do my job, put my head down. I 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.440 didn't swing a bat, I didn't catch a ball, I 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.160 didn't throw a pitch. I'm just along for the ride 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.839 to bring it to people that are listening, to get 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:55.439 their excitement, to calm their panic, like there was after 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:59.280 the Dodgers went down three games to one in the NLCS. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.640 I I just calmed everybody down and let them new 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:07.240 and let them know the Dodgers were coming back. Yes see, 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.880 I do the opposite as you know of essay, because 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.120 we worked together that I believe that sky is falling 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.320 radio being the alarmist when it comes to sports panic. 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.840 Sports panic is a good kind of panic. I don't 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:22.520 think panicking like a like a like election panic and 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:26.920 like real world panic is not constructive. But like I 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.280 like being a panic peddler when it comes to sports. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.480 I was convinced when the Dodgers fell behind the Braves 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.720 and they were done, they were not going to come back. 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:36.880 Now do you do you really believe they were going 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.640 to come back? Essay? Or were you? I really did? 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.240 I really did. I felt like the Braves as it 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.560 proved out to be within on pitching, and the longer 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:50.240 that series went, the better chance the Dodgers had to win, 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.400 because I mean, who were their pictures. I can't even 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.800 tell you who they were outside of Max Freed. The 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.840 other guys were pretenders here to death. They got away 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.600 with it the first time. But the Dodgers are so 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.800 good that they see you a second time when your average, 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.600 and they take advantage of you. And that's exactly what 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.520 they did. And by the way, Mookie Betts changed that 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.720 whole series when he made that great catch and forced 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.839 Ozuna to come off the bag early, and everybody I 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.160 talked to it felt like that catch, that play changed 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.800 the entire momentum of the series. How great is it, though, 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:31.760 that Mookie Betts in one year, David Vasse has justified 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:36.839 that forever contract the Dodgers gave him by making key 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.240 plays in the World Series, and so now he can 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.040 just kind of hang out for the next decade. He's 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.000 got he's got the forever contract, he's got the World 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.960 Series and so even if he doesn't pan out, you know, 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.920 five six years from now, I think most Dodger fans 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.960 they'll be upset, but they won't be like really that 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:56.640 in you know what I mean? They won the World 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.160 Series day. How many big time free agents of the 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.240 Dodgers brought in a last thirty years that we're supposed 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.199 to be the guy that would be the final piece 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.000 to win the World Series and they've been abject failures. 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.520 They didn't didn't get there, didn't finish the line. So 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.520 I mean it's gotta be pretty good for Mookie here. 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:13.760 You agree with me? Or do you think it doesn't 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:18.840 matter that they'll still go, you know, go rogue on him. Well, 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.840 number one, there's a reason why he's Mookie Betts and 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:27.600 you're Ben Mallard because now we understand, how dare you? Yeah, 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.559 we understand the way Ben Mallard thinks one good show 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.880 and one good podcast he could coast the rest of 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.960 the week. That's not Mookie Betts. Mookie Betts what makes 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.240 him special is that no matter what he did, he 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.800 comes to play. This guy already had a championship ring, 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.160 he already has an m v P. But he played 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.920 like he was as hungrier than any guy on that 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.080 Dodger team. And that's why they committed that many years 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.800 and dollars because they knew he would not have that 0:11:55.880 --> 0:12:00.760 Ben Maller attitude or a Davy Johnson managerial up of attitude, 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.480 and he would bring the the A game every year. 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.920 How dare you you're gonna rip lunch with Davy? Come on, man, 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.560 Davy Johnson, the legend, Dodger legend man. A few guys 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.760 could take a nap on the bench better than Davy 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:19.560 Johnson managing the Dodgers. That guy an all time greatness. Ben. 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.679 You know this. Everybody talks about how the Dodgers hadn't 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.520 one in thirty two years. A big reason why was 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:30.360 so many ownership changes, managerial changes, GM changes. There was 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.360 so much instability. I mean, you hired a guy like 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.880 Davy Johnson who cared more about his golf game than 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.599 he did about the baseball team. Then he hired a 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:45.920 mediocre manager and Jim Tracy because time by time out, Jim, 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.120 all right, So you did that to trigger me and 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:51.880 It worked because one of my good friends over the years, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.560 the great Jim Tracy, who was a manager of Great 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:59.080 Ben Tracy. He he invited me to stay at his 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.360 house in Pitch for of course by that time it 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:05.320 was because let go by the that See, there's a 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.760 guy that respected before other people did. You don't respect 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.960 the Mala brand, Vessey, But Jim Tracy, former Dodger, Rockies 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:16.200 and Pirates manager, there's a guy that got it. There's 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.640 a guy bonding you know when I did your job 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.559 essay very briefly years ago. There's a guy could hang 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.800 out with, have a meal on the road, catch up 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.840 with it. That's a good man. Do not trash Jim Tracy. 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:32.160 That is blasphemy, David Vasse, How dare you the epitome 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:38.199 of mediocrity? Jim Tracy and his dinner Canions obviously did 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.560 not hold in high regard either. So that's how he 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.960 kept his jobs. That's how he kept other jobs. Is 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.760 being kind to the media, and uh, that only gets 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.080 you so far. You gotta get some wins. It's all 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:55.720 about wins and losses. Mallard. Not I understand. You can 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.160 go around Vessey could be a jerk to everybody, but 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.560 you know he wins the show on the you know 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.199 doing this. What do you do like seven million commercials 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.080 on that Dodger talking my guy, when I did it, 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.760 I did like three every I mean, you are unbelievable. 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.840 Vest say, I used to rip and you know I listen. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.960 We love sponsors, but we have We've had John Sterling 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.200 on the podcast because if you've ever heard a Yankee 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:21.120 radio broadcast, the first like ten minutes is nothing but billboards. 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:25.480 But my maid, Vestse, you go playing a day brought 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:27.680 to you by your water lists, you know up you 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:33.480 know whatever heater or whatever heater. That's right, you got 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.240 in and out over here. I mean, you got a 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:39.400 million sponsors everything. My god, it's uh my, my head 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.240 is spinning listening to that Vesse. When you during the 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.560 Dodger season, when you're you're bouncing from sponsors, do you 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.760 ever miss make a mistake, Vesse and give the wrong 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.200 sponsor tack? Have you done that? I've never done that, Ben, 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.840 That's why they keep coming back for more. And by 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.160 the way, you have never said no to any sponsors. 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.760 So let's not play that game. Oh no, I'm I'm 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.360 absolutely a sponsor whore. And I would you know, listen, 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:07.760 I need a waterless that put your health in danger. 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:12.760 One that's not true body Solutions slash Body Shape or 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.120 a great sponsor. By the way, they still owe me 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.840 like twenty dollars, So if they want to send that money, 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.960 I would still accept that money. That I think there 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.320 we haven't on the record. They put out the A 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.280 p D for that. I think it was one of 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.800 the salespeople that embezzled the money, if I remember correctly, 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.480 is that true? Best I remember that the money vanished. 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.760 I'm not going to indict anybody that's alleged. All right now, 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:43.280 bigger highlight of David Vasse's radio career hosting Dodger Talk, 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.360 producing the Petrols and Money Show, or producing the Ben 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:52.400 and Dave Show. I would it's very close, but I 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:56.720 would say hosting Dodger Talking, owning things for myself? What 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:01.280 would be the highlight all right between? All right, forget that, 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.360 producing Petrols and Money or the Ben and Dave Show, 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:11.200 a regional, iconic l a radio show from the nineties. Yeah, 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:15.240 that's tough. That's tough. I don't know. You don't want 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.280 to rip. I know, I listen, I know because Petrols 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:18.960 will give you a crap and you don't want to. 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:20.680 You don't want to say the Ben and Dave Show. 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.600 So you're gonna say Petrols and money. You're gonna trash 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.880 Ben and Dave to my face because that's the power 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:31.000 the p has over you. I'll say Ben in Dave 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.360 because I know Petro's will not be listening to this. No, 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.080 no, no no, I'm gonna send him the clip. I'm gonna 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.480 cut this out. And and by the way, I say, 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.680 if I don't send it, one of my minions in 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.640 the mouther of Militia will make sure that Petrol's hears 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.560 about this, and it's fully aware that trash. What the 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:52.440 highlight was in my career hosting Dodger Talk or hosting 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:59.320 Bruin Talk during the years, Well, that's just depressing. Although 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.440 that's as bad as that's as bad as hosting Dodger 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:07.240 Talk during the Jim Tracy years. I disagree, man, because 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.720 I would bring this up essay so I learned and 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.639 I believe this is human nature. It's a product of 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:13.639 human nature. And I want to see if you can 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.879 verify this because when I did Dodger Talk back in 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.679 the day, with the great Ross Porter, let's play baseball trivia. 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.520 And then years later, a few years ago, I filled 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.600 in on the Red Sox version, like you know, the 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:29.600 post game show Red Sox Review, and I from l 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:34.960 a hosting talk beloved professional radio icon called in out 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:38.280 of the bullpen an emergency. So anyway, here's the point. 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:43.480 When the hometown team won, there wasn't as big a reaction. 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.960 There wasn't there weren't people all worked up. They didn't 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.399 want to, you know, call in and talk, which is 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:52.080 which is weird. But when the team would lose, oh, 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.280 fire this guy, you know that, you know, Bob and 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:59.040 Redondo Beach or whatever. People would lose their their lunch 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:00.800 when the team of the I was it still like 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.320 that all these years later for you? I said, when 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.960 you host Dodging Lodgers have won a ton the last 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.120 you know, obviously the last decade they've been very good. 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.439 But when the team loses and they go on a 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.840 rough patch, is it easy? Is your job easier because 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.040 my job was easier when the team would be losing. 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.520 You know what, Then you're right, the calls do flood 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.480 in when the Dodgers do lose. And keep in mind 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:28.639 They've won a hundred games twice in the last three years, 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:33.119 but those few times that they do lose, everybody's to blame. 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.879 Dave Roberts should be fired. The emotions are just completely 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.400 out of whack. But I will say this, during your 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.880 Jim Tracy Dodging Talk years, there was a lot more 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.920 of those nights than there were for me. So that's 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:51.040 probably why your opinion is slanted. You were there, like 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.600 I said, during the leanest times of Dodger baseball. You 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.160 don't have to pile on vest I'm aware the team 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.800 sucked when I was doing that, but that's Adams, Joe 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:06.520 Cory's last Yeah, that was pretty weak, the Joe Torre room. 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:10.080 But I I also he listened to Dodger Talk between 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.520 twenty two thousand nine and two thousand and eleven. I 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.000 can guarantee you that was that the dark period for 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:19.439 Dodger talk. What about that Grady the Great the Grady 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.080 Little era? Is that a great era? The Grady Little 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:27.080 ear that was? That was dicey. That was very dicey. Yeah. Now, 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.640 my second favorite Dodger manager of all time, the great 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.679 Bill Russell, who took over for the sort of another winner. 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.840 This guy, great guy. Part of those seventies Dodgers. See 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.520 anybody that's wanted to a great player, great player, not 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.119 a great manager. Really couldn't connect with a lot of 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.400 diverse type of players. Now the player with the players 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:52.560 with a problem. Listen Bill Russell, great baseball man, Dodger icon, 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:55.639 wonderful manager. He got a rough shake. You know, they 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:57.880 didn't give him the greatest team in the world. Players 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.239 had bad attitudes. You want me to go on, I say, 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.920 Mike Piazza while he was the manager, Oh my god, 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.080 well were you. I was there. You were there that day, 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:12.760 wasn't you. It was sports radio night. Yeah, yeah, that's right. 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.800 That was the first night I ever covered a Dodger game, 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:19.720 Mike Piazza's last game. And I walked into the clubhouse. 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:23.320 The Dodgers had lost that game, and Todd zill is 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.760 almost crying in his locker, and I was thinking to myself, Wow, 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.160 these guys really do care if they win or lose game. 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:32.080 Little that I know, they had told him that he 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.800 was going to Florida with Mike Piazza. Oh my god, 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.520 that was the most surreal night. Uh. And I was 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:41.320 out there in those days. I was there every night 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.040 at Dodger Stadium for years. I was like thirty years. 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:45.640 I was out of every Dodging and not so much 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:52.359 any yes, literally and figuratively, mainly in the press box food. 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:54.960 I would be uh be eating the press box food. 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:56.960 But but no, I remember that night because it was 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.159 a big deal for for the station we worked at. 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.040 It was sports radio night. They gave out these headphones. 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.479 It was a sellout crowd. They were playing. I think 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:08.280 it was like the Montreal expos I I remember correctly. Um, 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.160 but yeah, they there was a buzz that they were 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:15.120 trading Piazza and all that stuff, and then it came 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:19.640 down and I remember Piazza was wearing a Pittsburgh Penguins 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:23.399 jersey when he when he left the last time he 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.639 left Dodgers Stadium, he was wearing a Penguins jersey. And 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:30.520 do you know this, Ben, he still Harbor's resentment towards 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:35.000 the Dodgers. He never even tweeted out a congratulatory uh 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.159 tweet to the Dodgers for winning the World Series. But 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:41.600 the Mets they donate, you know, five thousand dollars to 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:45.560 a dog charity, and he's all over it. Dogs need 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:50.080 love to But yeah, I can't understand that Piazza I 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:53.320 got even the guys today. Maybe I'm wrong on this vessay, 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:56.840 but I would say Piazza was such a huge presence. 0:21:57.400 --> 0:22:00.000 He's bigger than anyone currently on this Dodging team. They 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.080 just won the World Series. Like, he was such a 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.520 mega star and it was different. It was a long 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:09.439 time ago, but his presence in the l A sports scene, 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:12.000 I mean he was up there like a Lakers star, 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:16.760 Mike Piazza. Yeah. The reason why was because Magic Johnson 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:20.679 had just retired. The Lakers were not very good, and 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:23.320 when Mike Piazza was a rookie and ninety three, and 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:25.840 you're a hundred percent right. At that point in time, 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.880 the Lakers did not have a star. They were very good. 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:31.960 People weren't going to their games, and Mike Piazza and 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:35.200 Eric Harros were the two biggest stars in Los Angeles. 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:38.520 Women would follow them on the freeway back to their 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:43.400 home in Manhattan Beach. And that's how No Dodger ever 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:46.080 has that going on right now, I can guarantee you that. 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:49.200 So I would say, to a certain extent, you're right then, 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:52.680 but these guys have something Piazza never got and that's 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:56.680 a World Series championship with the Dodgers. Yeah, no, I 0:22:57.000 --> 0:23:01.400