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Speaker 1: Ben Maller starts right now. It is audio poetry in motion,

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Speaker 1: west of the four oh five David Gascon making his

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Speaker 1: So David Vasse for those of you maybe not in

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Speaker 1: he's been on Dodging Talk for years and he's been

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Speaker 1: But more recently, David Vesse has been the host of

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Speaker 1: a renaissance man, is what he is, a guest on

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Speaker 1: He did Dodger talk. They win the World Series this year,

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Speaker 1: David Gascon and David Vasse welcome, and so how did

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers winning the World Series change your life? David

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Speaker 1: Dodger dog. I think that's about it. Yeah, well they

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Speaker 1: was ill be sure. I'll be sure to tell Sean

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Speaker 1: Green next time I see him that you thought it

424
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 1: was a bad trade. And I think you said about

425
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: Sean I'll let him know. None of us I like

426
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: Sean Green, but Mondy, I mean, that was my guy.

427
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: And he kept changing teams. He went to the Blue Jays,

428
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: he played with the Yankees. He actually got so upset

429
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: with the Yankees. He they were playing the Red Sox

430
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: at Finway and he left. He took a car and

431
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: drove back to New York. He got so upset with

432
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: the with Joe Torrey. At the time, he was he

433
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: was very very and then who was I was the

434
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: guy when he stop for a d U y in

435
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: Glendale here in Los Angeles. All he told the police

436
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: officer was well, the other part of that story, which

437
00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: I we allowed to tell that part of the story

438
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: and out because I was in the clubhouse when when

439
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: that news came down, and I thought, wow, I mean,

440
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Mandy, if he needed a shoulder massage.

441
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: I was there to give her old Mondes shoulder. I was,

442
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: but but well, no, he supposedly the legend is and

443
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: I I didn't witness this firsthand, but I was in

444
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: the clubhouse and there was a buzz. He shows up

445
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: and he I believe, he tossed the paperwork to Derrek Hall,

446
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: who's now the like the CEO of the Diamondbacks, but

447
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: he was a Dodger PR guy, and like told him

448
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: to take care of this. He handed the paperwork from

449
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: the d U I and told him go take care

450
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: of this. And uh, who else Dave? Remember Dave Hansen?

451
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: Come on one of the hands. I was one of

452
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: the hands. Talked. He's a great guy. How's he doing?

453
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him in years. He was coaching.

454
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: He coached for a bunch of different teams for years.

455
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: He was a hitting coach for the Angels and the

456
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: Mariners and the Diamondbacks and and all that. What's he

457
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: up to these days? He actually helps kids. He's a

458
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: hitting coach for kids down in uh southern Orange County.

459
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: And he was a roving hitting instructor for the San

460
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: Francisco Giants. Last time I checked, but I'm not sure

461
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: if the analytically inclined far on anxiety kept him around. Yeah,

462
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: he's not a he's not a Poindexter's. He just knows

463
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: how to play baseball. That's not something that's valued anymore. Yeah,

464
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're on my side fast day. When

465
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: it comes to analytics. It sounds like you're like, hey,

466
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: this whole analytical thing, man, this is not the way

467
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 1: to go, right, A little balanced, everything in moderation, right, exactly,

468
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: everything in moderation. You know, the analytical world accused the

469
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: old school baseball people are being too set in their

470
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: ways towards that end of the spectrum. Yet the new

471
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: wave analytical people, as evident by Kevin Cash is poor

472
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: decision to take Blake Snell out of Game five of

473
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: the World Series. They are very set in their ways

474
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: and each they're more dug in on on their analytics

475
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 1: than baseball people are as far as uh evaluating with

476
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: their eyes and with the scouts. Because I know Tony

477
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: LaRussa he was doing analytics in a notebook with Dave

478
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: Duncan when he was managing the Oakland A So they

479
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: were doing that way before computer programs were coming out. Hey,

480
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: that's a Are you having as much fun now as

481
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: you did when you first started with the Dodgers and

482
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: with KA l C. Yeah, yeah, I am. I I

483
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: still enjoy it. I love going best part of my

484
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: day is going into the clubhouse and interacting with the

485
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: players and finding ways to connect fans with those guys

486
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: and humanizing those guys because so many people viewed them

487
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: as the you know, cartoon characters and people that aren't

488
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: real human beings, and guys like Don Mallard take shots

489
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: at athletes all the time, but no regard for It's

490
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: just a job, essay. It goes with the territory. It's

491
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: gotta criticize, you can't. I can't be a suck up

492
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: like you twenty four hours a day. When somebody saw

493
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: I have to give tough love, that's what I do. Listen,

494
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm convinced. I I had fired Dave Roberts seven times,

495
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: I had traded Kershaw twelve times, and because of that,

496
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: they finally went out and one they responded, They responded Vessey.

497
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden, Dave Roberts is a

498
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: great manager. Kershaw is an October performer, right, And according

499
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: to you, no I would still trade Kershaw and I

500
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: would probably fire Roberts, but they did win, so that's good.

501
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: All right. Well, at least you're consistent. I like that. David,

502
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: speaking of consistency, like, how hard is that for you

503
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: not to be a Homer Because you get a lot

504
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: of guys, it doesn't matter if it's in l A

505
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: or Anheim or San Diego, like a lot of guys

506
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: waving the pompons that work for the team on radio

507
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: or on television. There's that flying line you gotta take

508
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: between being in you know, a journalist or radio guy,

509
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: a TV guy, and being a full fledged fan. But

510
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: we get too much of that these days. Yeah, that's

511
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: not something that I grew up with. Uh, with broadcasters

512
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: like Don Drysdale, Vince Scully, Chick Hearne, Bob Miller, Ross Porter,

513
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: those guys were never Homers. That's not something that we

514
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: were brought up on here in Los Angeles. We don't

515
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: want that. That's for other small towns where they're broadcasters

516
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: are the Harry Carey's, the Hawk Harrelson's where they're trying

517
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: to be the Homers. They love that over there in Chicago.

518
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: That's not something that I grew up listening to with

519
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: those Hall of Fame broadcasters, transcendent broadcasters. They would let

520
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: you know in their own way that they thought the

521
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: team wasn't playing well or a particular player may not

522
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: be fitting with the team. So I may be more

523
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: blunt than those guys were, but that's I'm not a

524
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: play by play guy that work for the team. I

525
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: obviously have to walk a fine line. But fans are

526
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: not dumb. They can see what is right, what is wrong,

527
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: who's not playing well, And if you're going to continue

528
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: to pretend like things are not occurring, then you're not

529
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: gonna be garnering much credibility with those listeners. So that's

530
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: that's what I grew up on. And I try to

531
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: be constructive whenever I do feel like there's a shortcoming

532
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: on the team. Um, and there's always that fine line,

533
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: and some fans think I'm a homer. Sometimes the team

534
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: believes I'm too critical, so I guess I'm doing my

535
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: job if both sides have an issue. Yeah, there's always

536
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: good nights that'll text bend randomly. I think in particular

537
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: last year when the Dodgers got beat by Washington, that

538
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: series was over and I'm driving home and listen to

539
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: k L a C. Because he's covered up like he

540
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: naturally is, and he and yeah, and I'll say, hey,

541
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: Vass is a red ass Tonight'll ask why. I'll be like,

542
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: he's just he's taking shots at every color. It's coming

543
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: up with some stupid ship. Yeah, I mean, especially like

544
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: call I mean that's another thing when people are driving home,

545
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: like you Gascon, where you're listening to these callers, if

546
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: they're if they're not making sense and they sound ridiculous,

547
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: am I going to pretend like they're a tremendous caller

548
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be Wow, that is unbelievable. Point that

549
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: you just brought up that maybe Clayton Kershaw should play

550
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 1: left field instead of pitch And there's no way I

551
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: can do that, and nobody's turn off the radio. But

552
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: now that's what I do, though, best is I make

553
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: every crappy caller I baffling, you know, just wonderful, amazing.

554
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: See that's the secret to my successful say, that's the difference.

555
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: I can take a crap caller and mold them into

556
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: an average caller. Who who would you say you've done

557
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: the best work with Genie and Medford. Yeah, yeah, Genie was. Ye,

558
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: Genie was a fine woman, alcoholic and uh, we love

559
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: Jennie and yeah, that's a good call. Like Jennie started

560
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: calling the show because she vasse. I don't know if

561
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: you know the story, but Jeannie was one of my

562
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: regular calls. She died a couple of years ago. But

563
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: she started calling the show because she got arrested for

564
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: for calling nine one one because she would drink a

565
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: lot of wine and get lonely and wanted someone to

566
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: talk to. So she'd call nine one one to talk

567
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: to the nine one one operator and then they're like, hey, uh,

568
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: you know you can't do that. So they rested her

569
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: and they told her just call a radio station, and

570
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: so she started she started calling me. And that's the legend. Yeah,

571
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: there you go, helping helping one life at a time.

572
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: Who's the most how many regulars? And we used to

573
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 1: have when I did it with Ross back and then

574
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: we had Jeane and Redondo Beach that used to call

575
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: every Dodger talk. You would get a call and he

576
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: would be the expert, had all the answers. Do you

577
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: still have that scene? Remember him? Yeah? Jeane was Oh

578
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: my god, he might Redondo Beach. I don't know what

579
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: happened to him. Um, I do have a few. David

580
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: in Alhambra, um who is uh so he's he's loyal.

581
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: Is Abelle in in Buena Park, I have, I have her. Um.

582
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to recall who else is a is a guy? Um?

583
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: Somebody in San Francisco. We have a listener in San

584
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: Francisco that calls all the time as well. So yeah,

585
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: we have our regulars. I got you, and now before

586
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: I cannot have as Tom Ben not impressed with those regulars. No,

587
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: that does not move the hell. I mean, you gotta

588
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: get Genie and Medford. You gotta get your Genieume ever

589
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: Pete in Pittsburgh, Lance the bust Drive, I have them.

590
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: I just told you who they are. But They'm not

591
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and rip my collars like you. I

592
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 1: humiliate the callers. I embarrassed it because they embarrassed me.

593
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: They disappoint me every time they call these people. But

594
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: that happens to me too. I take that that one

595
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: too many phone calls, like I mean, maybe I shouldn't

596
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: have taken that all. Then I have to go to

597
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: the well one more time to feel good. About myself

598
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: and then always disappoints. You're right, You're like me. You're

599
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: like you. You prepare all you know, day, all night

600
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: for the show. You're all excited. You get to be

601
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: on the radio, and then you know, some slap dick

602
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: calls up and ruins the show, and you're like, what

603
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: why did I spend all my time preparing? And then

604
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: at this guy, you know, two minutes sabotage my work?

605
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: How dare you sabotage my That's how I look at it, Vesta.

606
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: You get ready, you want to do a professional job

607
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: on the radio, and then some drunkard calls up and

608
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: just you tumble off the cliff exactly right. What's next

609
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: for you? I mean, you've been doing this for quite

610
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: a while. What's what's next on the horizon for you?

611
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: What do you want to do? I don't really know,

612
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: you know, this is uh, this is the mountaintop for me.

613
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure where I go from here. But

614
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: eventually I'd like to spend more time with my family.

615
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: For sure. Being on the road a lot, it's not

616
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: conducive to having two young kids. So eventually I'd like

617
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: to find something that can fulfill all of that and

618
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: find that balance at home. Was this what you always

619
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 1: wanted to do, though, or was it something else? No, Yeah,

620
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: this is my dream job. This is what I always

621
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: wanted to do. Host Dodger Talk and travel with the team,

622
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: or you know, do something similar to this with the

623
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: Lakers as well. So yeah, these it was the Dodgers

624
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: or Lakers that I that I wanted to be with

625
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: on a daily basis. So would you consider producing for

626
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: the Ben and Dave shows more of like an internship

627
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: more as like just like yeah stepping Yeah, not something

628
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: that prominent. Great, It's listen. When I met Vesta, he

629
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: was pushing shopping carts at Costco. This guy has. This

630
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: guy's alleged he has risen from the mean parking lots

631
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: at Costco and has dominated the l A radio landscape

632
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: for for decades. Right, I mean this is a long

633
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: You've had a long run before. You did the Dodger

634
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: Talk with the Petrols and Money Show and the Ben

635
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: and Dave Show back in the day and all that.

636
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: Now you also do television, right, and you're a TV guy.

637
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: Not only are you on the MLB network, right, you

638
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: fill in on the Dodgers. Can I've seen you on

639
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: there a few times. You've been in studio providing witty commentary,

640
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: and you know, how often do you do the TV stuff?

641
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: Do you like TV more than radio? Because I like

642
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: radio more than TV. I've done a little TV, but

643
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: I like radio. Do you like TV more than radio?

644
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: Because TV people get paid more of esse. I would

645
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: say that's the greatest gain of doing television for sure. Um.

646
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I started to back up Alana Rizzo a

647
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: couple of years as being the sideline reporter on sports

648
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: Net l A and I do reports for MLB Network.

649
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: You're right then, so I appreciate you keeping tabs monitoring

650
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: my my movement. But yeah, it's great to have that

651
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: type of exposure. And you know, it's both are different mediums. Uh.

652
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: I would say television is great in short spurts. You

653
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: can't you don't have the full blank canvas that you

654
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: do on radio. But TV has its perks. Two, because

655
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: when I was doing TV, the players would definitely uh

656
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: not stop messing with me. Kershaw one time did some

657
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: football stance and started punching me in the or pushing

658
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: me in the chest while I was on the air.

659
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: David Freese was put a helmet on my head, so

660
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: it was. It's it's always interesting. I'll say that they

661
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: have it's their canvas to mess with me more than

662
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: my canvas to paint fascinat. Have you ever gotten caught

663
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: in a in a mix up like we've had back

664
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: in the day with Rob Dibble and Lou Panella and

665
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: ship like that with managers and players and journalists and reporters. Wow, No,

666
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: you know everybody is so pc these days. That doesn't

667
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: happen anymore. I've never seen that either a player will

668
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 1: just be short with them, but I've never I've never

669
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: been through anything close to that. That would be phenomenal

670
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: if that happened, but the personalities are not like that anymore.

671
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd want to back you in

672
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: a fight against Milton Bradley, though, I'll be honest, No

673
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: Ben knows this. I was Milton Bradley guy. We used

674
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: to talk a lot when he played for the Dodgers,

675
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: but unfortunately he had some other demons that he uh,

676
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: he couldn't hide anymore. My god, Milton got I was

677
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: in there one day. He got so upset with Jason Reid,

678
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: who was the Dodger beat writer, at the time, and

679
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: he was screaming at him and Mike, but it was fun.

680
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: That was kind of the tipping point for sure. Yeah,

681
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: back in the day though, essay before everything did become people.

682
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: I blame social media because without social media, because everything

683
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: on social media right away it's in your face on Twitter,

684
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, like two seconds later. But I remember, uh,

685
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: Johnny Oates, the Rangers manager, he got into it in

686
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: the locker room when I was in there years ago randomly. Uh,

687
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: well remember the the Matt Williams thing when Matt goll

688
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: upset with me, got in my face and uh and

689
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: and had me kicked out. And they've been Tony Phillips

690
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: back in the These are all old references, Vessey, but

691
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: I remember there were several like heated confrontation situations in

692
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: locker rooms. But he does not seem like it was

693
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: like very You're right, mellow. They don't want to they

694
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: don't want to stir the pot too much. Where are

695
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: the hotheads in baseball vasse? Where have they all gone? Exactly?

696
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not sure. I total arusa being back

697
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: in Chicago. He'll make some people uncomfortable. I remember being

698
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: a reporter just covering all the teams in l A.

699
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: Ben and Bobby Valentine was the manager for the Mets,

700
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: and I was in his office after a game at

701
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: Dodgers Stadium, and I guess he felt like I had

702
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: my microphone too close to his face, and he actually

703
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: pushed my microphone back. That's a close up with dust

704
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: stuff I've had. I remember Jim for Gosie, the late

705
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: Jim for when he was managing the Phillies, and this

706
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: was after they got to the World Series and lost,

707
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: and he was so the Phillies would come out to

708
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: the West Coast and just get their face bashed in

709
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: by the Padres and the Dodgers, like every year they couldn't, couldn't.

710
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: They were confounded by playing in the and by the

711
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: time they would get to l A after losing in

712
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: San Diego, for Gosie was spitting mad, screaming at reporters,

713
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: screaming at his players, like you never see that kind

714
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: of stuff anymore, the hotheadness. Yeah now, but now, Vasse though,

715
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: how is your Aaron Boone was fired up a couple

716
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: of times towards umpires, but you don't see that towards reporters.

717
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: They just hire they seem to hire just mellow guys

718
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: that it used to be. I'll go there. It used

719
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: to be back in the day, you'd hire a mellow

720
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: manager and then you'd hire a hothead, right, you go

721
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: from hothead like that's why the Yankees kept bringing back

722
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: Billy Martin, because they'd hire a mellow guy and then

723
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: that didn't work, so they bring in the hothead, Billy Martin.

724
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: And it used to be that was the formula. Now

725
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: they all kind of hire the same guys. You just

726
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: it's like you change one chair and you and you

727
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: put in another chair that looks exactly the same, but

728
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: maybe it's a little bit, you know, the color is

729
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: off a little bit, but it's almost the same. There's

730
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: no there's really they're all the same type of manage.

731
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: As you said, Larus is the exception of the rule

732
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: because he's old, but all these other guys are. They're

733
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: all kind of wired the same way. They're pretty mellow,

734
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: and they go by the book and that's it. Yeah,

735
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: no one. There's no emotional moves being made in baseball

736
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 1: these days, before the game, during the game, or after

737
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: the game. It's all very measured and that's a product

738
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: of the front office is really taking control of pregame

739
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: planning and also who they want to work with. Yeah,

740
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: it was it was Azzi in the last hothead manager

741
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: might have been Yeah, that's a great call. It might

742
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: have been Ausi g in. Don Mattingly's even a mellow guy.

743
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: You would think he'd be a guy that get fired up.

744
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: He's even when he used to want to send messages

745
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: to his players through the media, he would do it

746
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: in a very measured way as well. Yeah, well ask

747
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: you this now with COVID this year and you covered

748
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: the team, but it's a lot different. You couldn't go

749
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: in the locker room, right, you were banned from You

750
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: didn't have the access. I was on a different tier. Yeah,

751
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: I was on a different tier. Players and staff were

752
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: on the first two tiers, and uh, broadcasters like myself,

753
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: Rick Monday, um, guys like that, Joe Davis and orl Hirschheiser.

754
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: We were only confined to the press box and our

755
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: broadcast booths, and I couldn't even be in the same

756
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: broadcast booth with Rick Monday. The Dodgers did a great

757
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 1: job of trying to keep everybody safe and separate, and

758
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: they really accomplished a lot of things. So I have

759
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: to give the Dodgers props for for doing a lot

760
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: of good things to keep everybody that was doing their

761
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: job they're safe. So yeah, that's that. That was the setup.

762
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: Even when I went to Texas, I was only allowed

763
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: to be in the press box. So when the Dodgers

764
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: won the World Series, that's as close as I got.

765
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: And we had a headset in the clubhouse, so guys

766
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: like Mookie Betts and Corey Seeger put on the headset

767
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: and I would talk to them from my broadcast booth.

768
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: So how how much more difficult? Obviously it was a

769
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: lot different, lot a lot more difficult. Like your job

770
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: is to be around the players and to to do

771
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: all the interviews of essay and all that, and you know,

772
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: I I'd watch you be in the clubhouse all the

773
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: time and booking guys to do your pregame interviews and all. So, like,

774
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: how how much harder was it this year? Because you

775
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: still had to do that stuff, right, They didn't tell

776
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: you not to do that. You still had to interview

777
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: the players. It was like on zoom calls, right exactly. Yeah.

778
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: I got a lot of help from one of the

779
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: Dodgers pr people. His name's Wan Dorado. He deserves a

780
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: lot of credit because he would be my my guy

781
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: to ask these players every day whether or not they

782
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: could do a zoom pregame interview with me. So I

783
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: give him a lot of credit for delivering for me.

784
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the way I would do it. Then

785
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: my pregame interviews would be over zoom. And I guess

786
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: the good part is I could not only play it

787
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: during our radio pregame show, but also posted on our

788
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: social media and people could see the players and us

789
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: do this interview together. So there was good and bad

790
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: to all of it. But I would say that's the

791
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: positive where it could be used on different platforms and

792
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: and the fans could get a peek inside of just

793
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: how we do these pregame interviews. Now have I say.

794
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: I talked to a buddy of mine who covers baseball

795
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: on the East Coast who's convinced. He swears that it

796
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: is never going back to the way that it was,

797
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: that baseball is gonna take advantage even when they get

798
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: a placebo and the coronavirus is just a memory and

799
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: it's just a seasonal thing that they're the media restrictions

800
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: are going to be in place. Do you you buy

801
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: that or do you think it will go back to

802
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: the way that it had been for forever and ever

803
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: and ever As far as access to the clubhouse, Yeah,

804
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about media access and just having the freedom

805
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: to go into the clubhouse whenever you want before the

806
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: games and after the games. That they're gonna gonna lock

807
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: that down and it's not going to go back to

808
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: the way that it had been. Yeah, I could see that,

809
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: because I know there have been talks um part of

810
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: this new collective Bargaining Agreement negotiation going on um that

811
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: there is a possibility that it could be closed off

812
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: to the media before the games completely and only allowed

813
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: in after games. Because if you remember, Ben, when we

814
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: first started, you can go inside the clubhouse two separate

815
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: times before the game started. You can go into the

816
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: clubhouse before batting practice, and they also would allow you

817
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: to go back in after batting practice. And uh, within

818
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: the last ten years, they stopped media from being allowed

819
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: to go back into the clubhouse after the team came

820
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: off the field for their batting practice. So yeah, I

821
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: could see. I could see this prompting some questions about

822
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: how much access does the media really need? And I

823
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: think that conversation was going on even before COVID nineteen

824
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: hit and all the restrictions. Now, David, we must mention

825
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: here you are not only on the Mallard radio treat,

826
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: the Petro's radio treat, but you are on the big

827
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: Nasty l a radio legend. I mentioned him earlier, the

828
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: great Joe McDonald. How much fun would Joe have Big Joe? Now,

829
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: with everything going on in the world, can you imagine

830
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: the kind of nonsense and for vality that Big Joe

831
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: in l a radio icon if he was still with us?

832
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: My god, this why if he was only around and

833
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: think about the nonsense he did back in the day,

834
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: and now you were around him forever. Ust you learned

835
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: from him? But think about what he would have done

836
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: with with the politics and the coronavirus and the Dodgers

837
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: and all the nonsense. This would have been his mona, Lisa,

838
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: it would have been if he would have Uh, he

839
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: would have been kind of the wave that I think

840
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: we need to rock. So much political correctness, and he

841
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: obviously wasn't shy to share his political views. I'm sure

842
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: he would have a lot of fun with the political

843
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: season going on and everything that's taken place the last

844
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: four years, and we definitely missed his voice because I

845
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: know a lot of people didn't believe this, but at

846
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: times he was the voice of reason in his own

847
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 1: bombastic type of way. So yeah, he would. He would

848
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: have a fielding with a lot of stuff that's going

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00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: on in the real world and in sports, and he

850
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: definitely was my mentor and night I miss him. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, Bend, but I

852
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: do pay tribute to Joe. At the end of every

853
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: Dodger talk show, Yeah, what do you do? I'm normally

854
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: doing my show. By the time you get done with Dodgers,

855
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: I gotta gonna be finished. I know that's true. I

856
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: I text you like any time a Dodger game goes late,

857
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Hey, what time you gonna get off?

858
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: Because talking if I talk about the Dodgers and I'm

859
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: not even on in l A, We're not clear to light.

860
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: What's the point of talking about the Dodgers. I gotta

861
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: so I gotta wait until you get done. And then

862
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: I remember that one game in San Francisco a couple

863
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: of years ago, you ended like at two in the

864
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: morning or so. It was ridiculous. It was like the

865
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: entire show is that's not my fault. I don't want

866
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: to end that true in the morning, that's just the

867
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: way the game went. No, but it affects my life,

868
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: so I don't like that. So what what do you

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00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: do to honor the great Joe McDonald? Well, if you

870
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: remember when he hosted the UH the McDonald Douglas Show,

871
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: he would always sign off by saying, so you like

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00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: in a loud, loud, long drawn out way, and that, Yeah,

873
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: that's my O to Big Joe. After he passed away,

874
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: I always wanted to find a way to pay tribute

875
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: to him, and some people have caught it. Not a

876
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Speaker 1: lot of people have. So I just thought I'd still

877
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: you in on that and I haven't forgotten him, and yeah,

878
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: that's the way I that's the way I pay tribute

879
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: to him at the end of every show. That's a

880
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: great tribute. And I had the interesting UH life where

881
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: I worked with Hacksaw and Joe and Hacksaw were like

882
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: blood rivals, right sports radio wars in southern California, So

883
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: I saw both sides of it. But Big Joe was

884
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: He's like the Frances I loved you, Ben, Ben, he

885
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: loved you for sure, he really liked you. No, no,

886
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: we did. We had it. We had one beef, but

887
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: we became very good friends. Everybody has a pief with

888
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: show everybody. But you found your way back. Yes, I

889
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: found my way back in the good graces there. And

890
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: do you still talk to Doug Crecorn, the Great Dougcorns?

891
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: You still talked to him today? I talked to him

892
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: at least twice a week. He's enjoying retirement in the

893
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: beautiful Naples community of Long Beach. I gotta get him

894
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I don't know if you would do it.

895
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: I get Oh, that would be great. We gotta get

896
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: tell him. I want to put him on the podcast.

897
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: He used to say nice things back in the day,

898
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: and he actually listened, like you. Yeah. The biggest fans

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00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: that I know of, maybe the only two fans you

900
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: have that I know of, are Rick Monday and Duck Riccordian.

901
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: That's right, the great Rick. We gotta get Monday on

902
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: here too. Monday is great. Don't don't wow. I think

903
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: he's the closet listener. I don't believe he wanted me

904
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: to disclose how much he likes your show. I know,

905
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: I hear that a lot from people are like that.

906
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't really you know, they can't admit it. It's

907
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: like Trump, they can't admit they like it, but they

908
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, like whatever. So anyway, all right,

909
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: well listen, ve'sse We thank you. You're an amazing person,

910
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: human being. And now it's your off season. So when

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00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: does off season Dodger talk start next week? Or when

912
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: is this? When is this? Yeah, I'm not sure. We're

913
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. A lot of sports are

914
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: starting to hit at the same time now, with U

915
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: c l A Football, the Clippers starting up around Christmas time,

916
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Speaker 1: so we're gonna find time for sure to ride this wave.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers winning the World Series for the first time

918
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Speaker 1: in thirty two years. It's awesome. And just in case

919
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Speaker 1: anybody from the Dodgers is monitoring this, what ring size

920
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: do you have? When they get that word, what size

921
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: ring do they need to get your SA? Do you

922
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: know your rings? I do not know. I haven't had

923
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: my ring my ring finger size since I was married

924
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: nine years ago. All right, but you are willing to

925
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: have your ring size for the proper world see ring. Yes,

926
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: And everybody seems to be more concerned about whether or

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Speaker 1: not I'm getting a ring than I am about it because,

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00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: like I said, I always say it's about the players,

929
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Speaker 1: and I actually feel like they hand out too many rings.

930
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: Ben it should be more limited than it is these days.

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Speaker 1: It's about the players, it's about the play by play broadcasters,

932
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Speaker 1: the front office. That's who it's about. Now, that's bullcrap.

933
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: David Vasse needs a World Series ring. I know you're

934
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Speaker 1: being the good guy in all that FSA. You deserve one.

935
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: They give these things out and that's the proper etiquette.

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Speaker 1: You've been with the team, you've been traveling with the

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00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: team for a decade. You've paid your dues, you've made,

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00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: you've been polishing turds at times. These guys haven't exactly

939
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: been great all the time, and you've you've pumped them

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00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: up and you've done You've done your job. So they've

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00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: got to give you a ring. They don't give your ring.

942
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: That's an injustice and heads are gonna roll. You should

943
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Speaker 1: get a ring, my man, and if not, we will

944
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: start a go fund me campaign and or either that

945
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: or you can go I'm sure next year fans are back,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna definitely be at this game beast when

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Speaker 1: they give out the fake rings, you know, the replica ry.

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00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was there. Yeah, I'll be there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's a great night, man, that is I will definitely.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that is awesome. All well, thank you, Muss.

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Speaker 1: They enjoy your off season. I appreciate it. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, thanks for having me. Be sure to

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Speaker 1: catch live editions of The Ben Meller Show weekdays at

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