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Speaker 1: I'm Peanut Tolman and this is the NFL Player's Second

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Speaker 1: Acts Podcast. I got my guy Roman, Deacon, Uncle Harper,

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Speaker 1: I got so many nicknames for you. Bro. We're like,

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Speaker 1: I could just we could talk about your age and

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Speaker 1: everything all day. You my co host. You might like

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Speaker 1: you robbing or Batman. I'm definitely um, I think you Batman.

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Speaker 1: I'll be robbing. I would try, and I would prefer

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Speaker 1: all good. But yeah, man, you're like my little side kick.

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Speaker 1: We go back and forth. You know, I am sidekick

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Speaker 1: because you know I'm younger than you. So that's the

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Speaker 1: gist of it all. If you're not younger than you,

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Speaker 1: you can't be a sidekick. And that batman uh situation.

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Speaker 1: So I'll tell you, Robbins, that's calm. Let's just go

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Speaker 1: We always like to thank you guys. First, let's get

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Speaker 1: that out the way. You gotta pay some bills. Let's

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Speaker 1: got Dear's Butler and Twine Pathea, Uh, we talked ball.

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Speaker 1: We got their their podcast, man and man, it's a

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Speaker 1: a day. It's awesome because Twine, look and you know

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Speaker 1: he was We got drafted together, we worked out together.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the more confident guys you'll ever meet,

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Speaker 1: especially being in from Howard. You never would have known

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Speaker 1: what's up. That's what's up. So, uh, your first radio row.

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Speaker 1: This is like my tenth or twelfth radio row. I've

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Speaker 1: like my six or seven. I've done it a few times,

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Speaker 1: not on this side, not interviewing players and talking to them. Um,

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Speaker 1: I was always the interviewee. So having done it one time,

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Speaker 1: we're wrapping things up. How how do you feel about it?

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Speaker 1: Also Orlando Pace, the creative of the pancake, Hugh Mongous

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Speaker 1: for those that don't know Hugh Mongous human being. See

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Speaker 1: it's the whole thing about the DBS. We bring it more.

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Speaker 1: process of training working out man. It was great times

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Speaker 1: to safety and now have done a lot for that secondary,

423
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 1: for that defense. So when you got on both sides,

424
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Speaker 1: I think the Eagles had the edge and the trenches,

425
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 1: and that's really where I think these games don't come

426
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 1: down to the Super Bowl that Mahomes did lose. He was,

427
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, running for his life. Obviously they got better

428
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: m on that old line, but I think on the

429
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 1: outside those tackles Brown and um, it was wildly. I

430
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: don't like how they match up with Sweat and Graham

431
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: and all those guys. Just Robert Quinn, who's gonna be

432
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: fresh as well, So it's gonna be it's gonna be tough.

433
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 1: But he is still Patrick Mahomes and he's one of

434
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Speaker 1: the best we've seen even this early on. So predictions

435
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 1: right now, what we what we're talking, Give me, give

436
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: me a score, give me and give me a team.

437
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: Twine is really good at this it's very confident that yeah,

438
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,959
Speaker 1: and he's saying it's gonna it's gonna look good at

439
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: least coming off. I'm going Philly with dumb. Um, I'm

440
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: going twenties okay, confident, final answer, final, confident snap And

441
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 1: he said it so Philly hardcore two, which is that's

442
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: that's a lot of points at a point, a lot

443
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Speaker 1: of points. But what you got, Um, the Eagles have

444
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: been the best team in the league all year long.

445
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm going with the best team in the biggest game.

446
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: I just that's just what it is. The way Kansas

447
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 1: City wins the aim is if you know, we all

448
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: know it. At the end of the day, as the

449
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: young people like to say, Patrick Mahomes is gonna say,

450
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: I am him. If he goes out there and does that,

451
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: then when the best player goes out there and wins

452
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: you a game, sometimes he just beat you. And that's

453
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: what it's gonna have take for Kansas City to win

454
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: this game. And he's very possible that that could happen.

455
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: I like the best team in football. Yeah, I'm going

456
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: with the Eagles. Um, give me a score. What you

457
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: got a score? Honestly, I think it's gonna be a

458
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: lot more, a lot, a lot bigger than what we think.

459
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Speaker 1: I think maybe why would say that, because I just

460
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: think it's gonna like the game is gonna be big.

461
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: It's gonna like it's gonna be a lot of points.

462
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: But you want, but it's gonna be I think they're

463
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Speaker 1: going to score. I don't because you can stop passion

464
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 1: Mahomes for two quarters and dude, I'm telling you, and

465
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: you blink an eye and it's it's on. And then

466
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: Kelsey's hot. Everybody's celebrating and they and now you're on

467
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: your heels as a defense. And you know how hard

468
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Speaker 1: it is when you're in two minute mode in the

469
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Speaker 1: third quarter. It's tough. It's really tough playing defense into

470
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: two minute offense. When you're placing two minute offense in

471
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Speaker 1: that third quarter is just really tough to stop. That's

472
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Speaker 1: what I think this game kind of gets out of

473
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: the head. It's gonna play with a much faster pace

474
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,239
Speaker 1: than what we anticipate. I bet you you're wrong, all right,

475
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: I bet you you're wrong. I bet you a hunter

476
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: push ups you wrong. I'm not gonna put money on it,

477
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: but I bet you a hunter push ups you wrong.

478
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a lower, a low scoring game. Hello,

479
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say total twenty one points. No one is

480
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: getting over twenty one points. And I'm saying that with confidence.

481
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna be some great defense. So what's the who

482
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 1: wins and what's the score? Okay, Philadelphia wins. I'm gonna

483
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: say one low scoring game, calling it right there. Confidence,

484
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: nobody's giving. It's crazy that we probably are going to

485
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Speaker 1: be wrong. All right, each one of you guys. I

486
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Speaker 1: love to ask this question, alright, anytime we get a

487
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Speaker 1: guy on, what was your first welcome to the fl moment?

488
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: All right? Like see for me, mom was in training camp.

489
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: My man, Mike Mackenzie money Mike. He was like, not

490
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: gonna practice first day of training camp, all right, cool.

491
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: But Sean Page was like, all right, this is a

492
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: new thing where you at least got to wear the dress.

493
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Speaker 1: So we just had he had to put a helmet

494
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Speaker 1: on while he rode the bike. Mike always wore shades,

495
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: So literally he comes out there without a helmet on.

496
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: They're like, Mike, gotta put your helmet on. So he

497
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: goes in with the shades on, and I think he's

498
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: gonna take the shades off because he put it on

499
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Speaker 1: the helmet right. No, he comes right back out shades

500
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: on underneath the helmet and riding the bike for like

501
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. For me, I was like, Oh, this is

502
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: what the league is about. This is the league dudes

503
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: riding a bike with shades on. Like how cool is that?

504
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,959
Speaker 1: So I'll give you my welcome to the league and

505
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: I'll give you a story when I got my bell wrong.

506
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: The welcome to the league was my rookie year training camp.

507
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: The real two of days, um and love it real

508
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: two days for yours that don't know. Two of days

509
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: was like hardcore, wasn't no, you practice one day, you

510
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: take your paths off. The real two days was you

511
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: practice spice of days pass When you were rookie, you

512
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: you're doing every everything. The scout team, special team, That's

513
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: what it was. For me. It was kicking off return,

514
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: punt punt return, first team, second team, scout team. And

515
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: this was probably the first time ever playing football. I

516
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: question if I could do this. Yeah, I had the

517
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: same question, and I was. I was on the sideline

518
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: and I remember it was Marlin Jackson, Kelvin Hayden and

519
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on I'm on a knee and I'm and

520
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm just quiet, I'm thinking, and I was like, bro, like,

521
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: are y'all hurting right now? Y'all time? And they both

522
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: just started laughing. They were like, you're gonna be good. Yeah,

523
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: we're feeling the same way last year. And it kind

524
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: of helped me. I'm like, Okay, they went through it,

525
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: so it's not just it's just not me personally, you know,

526
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things you have to go through.

527
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: But that was kind of a my welcome, like, all right, man,

528
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: this is a little different. It's a little different, man.

529
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: And the one time I got my bell wrong, I

530
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: still to this day don't know who that player was.

531
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: But we were playing it. We were playing the San

532
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: Diego Charges and in the darren sproll, he catches a

533
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: screen pass hauling tail down the sideline and you know,

534
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: talk about angles, so I'm taking the angle goods trying

535
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: to I'm I'm getting in and the receiver ran a

536
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: goal route, so he peeled back arounds, just a straight

537
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: running up the film. He peeled back and when he

538
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: hit me, like instantly, like I just started seeing stars.

539
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: And the first when I opened my eyes I seen

540
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: my feet, so he hit me so hard, but you

541
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: know it was just natural reaction to like just to

542
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: get up real quick. He scored. I run to the sideline,

543
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: take my helmet off. One of my teammates like, Bro,

544
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: you bleed like I had look coming out like you

545
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: got Rock, I mean mine, Uh really, I got drafted

546
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots. So I remember we get there is rookie

547
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 1: mini camp and stuff going through, you know, doing one

548
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: on ones, and these guys and DV coach in my

549
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: air after every amen with Brady Moss ge here, it's

550
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: gonna be different, like that ain't gonna cut it. I'm like,

551
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: don't be all right. So them boys get their Brady

552
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: bass Wroker and I just like everything like I felt

553
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: like my head was just spending, Like I felt like

554
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't even playing football anymore. You talked about the leverage,

555
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: like I knew you had to be in a certain level.

556
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna be outside inside leverage at the

557
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: line of screamage once we get in the intermediate part

558
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: of the field. Now I want you outside leveraging of

559
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: the day, Rock, because you got I'm like, I'm just

560
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: trying to cover, dude. So that mentally was my kind

561
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: of welcome to the the NFL. And then in the game,

562
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: my first game, Monday Night Football, UM playing against the

563
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: Bills and that's when they had t o just got

564
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: their um. Lee Evans Roscoe Parish are still there. I

565
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: think Fred Jackson, great offense, and it comes down it's

566
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: one of those plays, last play the game. One of

567
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: those players you throw it to a guy and pitch

568
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: it back and pitch it back, and I'm out there

569
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: running around with like chicken on the head cut off.

570
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: So throw it to the first tight endle I hit him,

571
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: bounce off m He pitched it back to tell Boom

572
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: he's still farm me. He getting I missed four tackles

573
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: on one play. So in New England, you win or

574
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: lose that Monday or that Tuesday. In that case, this

575
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: is an of the game. You got low lights, you know,

576
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: so you can win by three touchdow Like you're stressing

577
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: these low lights. So I'm thinkingna be good. This is

578
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 1: the last play the game. He's gonna get to this

579
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: one last last thing before the meeting Belichick. Guys, I've

580
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: been coaching the thirty five plus years in this leave

581
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen pretty much everything. I've never seen

582
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: a guy and missed four tackles or wooden player like

583
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: coaching hustler man. So that was that was my welcome

584
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: to the welcome to the league moment. I think, didn't

585
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: you miss like three or full tackles on one play?

586
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: You know what play I'm talking about, y'all know the

587
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: famous you know when Norman's is playing uh Seattle and

588
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: then you run through you know, be smoody, run through

589
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: the hole and break one tackle, breaking another tackle, breaking

590
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: another tackle. If you look closely, you see room in

591
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: the background in early did you miss one? I really

592
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: didn't even miss him. It was like this, like I was,

593
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: I was setting the edge. He goes inside, so I'm,

594
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, posting up. He goes inside. So then I'm

595
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: like okay, looking then like miss him. I'm like, did

596
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: I start running? Okay? Corner get off me. I'm like,

597
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: oh lord, I'm like really running safety dive. Miss he

598
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: stiff woman, I'm like, you're paying look up, it's just me,

599
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: three blockers and Marsh and that's when he hit the

600
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: home I just like, that's like what happened. That's like

601
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: my favorite player all the time. I look at Idea,

602
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: what happened? Hilarious? Look at that play? Huh you got

603
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: me one time? Matter fact on Hester has should have

604
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: been in the Hall of Fame. By the way, yes,

605
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: um he broke a part return record. I believe I

606
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: was in Carolina this year. I think it was you

607
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: and Corey Graham maybe. Yeah. And this is my first

608
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: and last rep as a good and get double teams.

609
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: We're not We're not trade players like that at all.

610
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: And I have been sabotaging special teams drills for three

611
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: years something to that point. I finally told me the

612
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: injuries that have ade needs you, y'all need me this

613
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: game now with this unit, because y'all took the absolute

614
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 1: utmost pride in that part unit. So that was definitely

615
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: not that. That was y'all. I appreciate you into my

616
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: gunning career over. I'm not trying to deal with man. Yeah. Look,

617
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: we can't thank you all enough man for coming on

618
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: our podcast. From you know, man to man, we thank y'all,

619
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: uh wishing enough but success for y'all, y'all five. I

620
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: need a hoodie, please, I want to. I wanna get

621
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Speaker 1: and shut out you know how it res you you know,

622
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Speaker 1: ate you? How about to ate you? Uh? Swim me

623
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: ever go to one? I did not. The swim meets

624
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: were not like that. When I was I need to

625
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: go to one, I don't even I'm not even a

626
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: great swimmer. But now that I'm seeing I gotta get

627
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: back on. Okay, okay, because I saw it, I'm like,

628
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: but I need that in my lot of energy. And

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of energy and that swim me Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad. Hey appreciate that. Appreciate coming always always. So

631
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that Darius Butler was the gunner at

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Speaker 1: sorry I got you fired off of that. That special

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Speaker 1: team does a gunner like no, you did him a favorite.

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be a gun in the NFL. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, it is the absolute worst position to play.

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Speaker 1: Explaining what the gunner is. A gunner is the outside

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Speaker 1: it's fourth down. We didn't get the ball, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: put it and these other guys on the outside. There

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Speaker 1: on a lot of scrimmage that get to release as

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Speaker 1: three guys that get to release as soon as the

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Speaker 1: ball is snap. You got the up back or the

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Speaker 1: person protector, and you're to edge guys. They get to

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Speaker 1: release as soon as the ball is snap. And usually

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Speaker 1: it's two on one. They have two defenders blocking one

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Speaker 1: guy and he can't just run out of bounds unless

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Speaker 1: he gets thrown out of bounds. He's gonna get he

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Speaker 1: will get held. He get down, and they allowed them

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Speaker 1: to hold. They allowed the defense to hold. It's the

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Speaker 1: physical rough playing. You just got to have your big

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Speaker 1: boy pats on and pants. You just gotta just you know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta fight. You gotta fight. You gotta fight, you

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Speaker 1: gotta slap, you get pulled, you gotta do other techniques.

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Speaker 1: You gotta yeah, eye gouge, whatever it takes. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to do it when you do. I liked it, um,

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Speaker 1: I like their podcast. I like the view. You know

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Speaker 1: what I told you. Also from them though, is that

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Speaker 1: I can tell they both care about each other. You

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Speaker 1: can tell like, not everybody that works together likes each other,

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Speaker 1: and not everybody that does podcast together get along or

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Speaker 1: and Darris was like, man, the best times I have

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Speaker 1: is when we don't when we don't agree on something,

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Speaker 1: and so that's really cool when you you know you

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Speaker 1: care that much you like when you disagree, it's almost

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Speaker 1: like the most fun thing. Because we don't disagree that much,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start disagreeing with you more, just just off principle. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's really hard to disagree with me, peanut, because I'm

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Speaker 1: always right. So that's just one of those things. It's

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Speaker 1: really hard to go against the truth. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: gonna argue with that because that's that's another conversation for

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Speaker 1: off camera. Well good, I'm just gonna end the show

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Speaker 1: right now. So thank you for all those listeners, for

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Speaker 1: you listen to your podcast with us. That's Drew Brees.

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Speaker 1: I got Drew Brees alright, anywhere you get yeah, Drew, Drew,

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Speaker 1: that's my couple of podcast. I heart radio. All the

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Speaker 1: Brees seeing you're seeing you? Oh my god, that was awesome.

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Speaker 1: What a real treat it was. That was a real treat.

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Speaker 1: Can you can you get back into picture? I don't

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Speaker 1: even yeah, I'm not even in the picture anymore. My bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's uh yeah, ladies, Drew in future Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame or Drew Brees one of your teammates, like I

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Speaker 1: Hey man, you know what that is the power of

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Speaker 1: live TV slash radio. This is like what it is

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Speaker 1: right now. I don't know. We're just on a whim

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Speaker 1: and like, man, when you got positive vibes, positive things

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Speaker 1: happened to you, Yes, it was all right. I guess

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Speaker 1: we'll wrapped the show again for the second time. Thank

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