1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know. Are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? You guys, it's a big day. It's 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: a big day. Okay. 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: Honestly, I didn't know if I was going to be 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: able to talk Bridget into joining us, but I have. 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: She is here, the incredible, the one and the only 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: Bridget moynihan who plays Natasha is here with us. And 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: I just found out something incredible. 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: You guys, I did. I admitted something pretty big. It's big. 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Please tell me it's pretty big, Nurse. Yes, I don't 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen if I say this, It's gonna 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: be fine. 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: It's gonna be fine. 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna cry, Oh my god, this is like 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: nerve wracking, amazing. 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: It's no, We're just gonna I. 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Came in to say that. A. I don't listen to podcasts. 18 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't know why it's okay unless 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: it's news related, and even that I've had to pull back. Sure, 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: And I've never watched the full seasons of Sex in 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: the City, and nobody knows that. I've never admitted that, 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: not even to my priest. Wow, I love it so much. 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: I am so fastbreaking news. 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: I mean it's breaking news and it's fascinating news. Okay, 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: Because I do think that there is this perception in 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: the world that all of us actors just watch everything 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: that we do and are fine with it and you know, 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: feel proud and glory in it or whatever, Which is 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: not to say that you don't feel proud, and you 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: should feel proud, but it can be hard to watch yourself. 31 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: Is that why you don't watch yourself or the show? 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: I think it's two different things. 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: Ok On. 34 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: I never watch shows that I'm in. I see it 35 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: for the first time, probably you know, at the premiere 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: or you know, the first screening, and then I won't 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: really go back, Okay, And I mean I just watched 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: Coyote Ugly for the first time because I think we 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: had another anniversary and that was the first time I've 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: seen the movie in probably twenty five years or whatever 41 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: the anniversary is. I mean, it was pretty amazing. What 42 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: did you think when you watched a great movie? 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: Right, it was. 44 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: A great movie. I read for Coyote Ugly, you did 45 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: what role? 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: I don't even know what role? Some role where I 47 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: was like, there is no way they're going to hire me. 48 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: For this. It was a very crazy audition process, and 49 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: in fact, it was I got that right at the 50 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: same time as I got sex in the City. How incredible. Yeah, 51 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: right at the same time. I think, I honestly think 52 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: I was auditioning for them almost in the same day 53 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: or in the same two days. Unbelievable. I mean multiple 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: auditioning process you know, yeah, processes. You have to dance. 55 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: I had to dance multiple days, dancing in front of 56 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: like directors and producers, I. 57 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: Know, terrifying to prince, Oh my. 58 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: God, No, how old were you, I don't know, older 59 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: than most people would have thought. I guess, oh, yeah, you. 60 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: Weren't like twenty two or something. 61 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, I was like probably yeah, something like sure, sure, 62 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: that's what I would have thought. That's what I thought. 63 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: And were you scared to audition for that one? No, 64 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: because I had this like weird confidence of dancing. I 65 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: used to love to dance, but I was not a dancer. 66 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: I was just like prom semi proms music on in 67 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: your room dance. I had no formal training. So a 68 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: lot of the a lot of the people that went 69 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: out for that had a lot more formal training, but 70 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: you felt confident. Yeah. 71 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: See, that's how when I met you, you seemed supremely confident. 72 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. When I went onto the set of 73 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Sex in the City, I was like, I always describe 74 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: it as this like double jutch, you know, jump roping. Yeah. 75 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: And then I, who was a band at the time, 76 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: it really had no experience, only had maybe two small 77 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: independent films under my belt. Jumping into your Sex in 78 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: the City world, it was like, you bet, you better 79 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: stay on beat, you know. 80 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: And you did, and well you really did, you really did. 81 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: This is the thing that I think, And this is 82 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: what the joy of looking back is, you know, after 83 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: all this time, because I have my memories right and 84 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: there of course filtered through whatever was going on with 85 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: me at. 86 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: The time and that day and whatever. 87 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: But when you look back, I mean, you have one 88 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: line in the first episode, but you are so present. 89 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: First of all, you're so beautifully cast. But second of all, 90 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 2: you're so present and you' I've read your interviews where 91 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: you you know, I had to look back at what 92 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: you've said, what you've been on record saying whatever, And 93 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: you said, no one told me the plan, No what 94 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if the plan was formed and I 95 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: don't know either. I wish I had time to call 96 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: Michael Patrick, but he's working on a different show right now. 97 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: But it didn't. 98 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: I think what happened because this was the time when 99 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: we were starting to trust ourselves and our writers were 100 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: starting to trust themselves. I don't know if the plan 101 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: was what it was. I think you showed up and 102 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: you were so incredible that the plan became the plan. 103 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, yeah, thank you. 104 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: Because you were, like, first of all, the way you 105 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: looked incredible, but second of all. 106 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: You're funny because when I see myself in that first scene, yeah, 107 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: that's not what I see. I see like, oh my god, 108 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: can you not smile so much? Like I don't know 109 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: what Chris was saying to me, But I don't know. 110 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: Was it really that funny? I'm not sure, But I 111 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: mean it's just such a masterile, right, And then you 112 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: have Carrie, you, Sarah Jessica Parker coming up and looking 113 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: the way she looks, and it's quite something. It was 114 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: quite something. Yeah, I mean, how good was that outfit? 115 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god? Incredible? 116 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: And now there's still like all the youngsters are trying 117 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: to trying to recreate it. Yeah, and It's funny because 118 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: at the time, right me, I'm Southern and you know, 119 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: I'm conservative Charlotte, and I remember thinking like, what is 120 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: she worrying? Oh my god? And those are the amazing 121 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: ones now, you know. And also she looked, I mean, 122 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: she could go none wrong. But this is what was 123 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: so great about you and you're casting and your vibe, 124 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: Like it's really a vibe thing of one line, So 125 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: it's not really about the line, but the way that 126 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: you are with him, the way that you look with him, 127 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: the fact that you're so obviously charmed by him, like 128 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: you don't even need lines. It's like a punch to 129 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: the gut for her and for all of us because 130 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: we're with her right and you have you know, like 131 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: a you're so much the opposite of her in terms 132 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: of I feel like you're equally amazing in the opposite 133 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: opposite way. You know, you're cool where she hot and complicated, 134 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: you're cool and collected. 135 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: And it was like it was like Big had his 136 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: perfect woman and two women yeah, like you know, doing 137 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: everything he needed, but from two different people. 138 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: I agree totally, and also two totally polar opposites, which 139 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: then makes you think about him I'm thinking about big. 140 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if my listeners are sick of it yet, 141 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: but like for me, and I've told them this before. 142 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: When I started, I would just. 143 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: See things as Charlotte saw them. I wasn't complicated enough 144 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: to think, like, what do I think about this script? 145 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: Is Kristen? And then oh, but I'm gonna play Charlotte. 146 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: I was just in it, you know. And also we 147 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: were going so fast back in the day. I remember 148 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: the hours were so insane. I mean, I don't know 149 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: how much you remember. 150 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: But well, I wasn't there all the time, right, I 151 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: would kind of like drop in and drop out and yeah. 152 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: So but I mean we were all night. You guys 153 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: were working all night. And that was again my first 154 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: audition because I'm a very on time person, which means 155 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: half an hour early. I'm always early, yeah, And so 156 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: I was at the audition early obviously, and I had 157 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: other auditions that day, so I had I was like, 158 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to get in and out on this. And 159 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: then they were running late and running late and running late, 160 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: and I'm calling my agents. I'm like, guys, I have 161 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: to go to the other one, and they're like, stay 162 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: for this. You need to stay for this. I'm like, 163 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: I can't be late for the next one, and I 164 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: was really I kind of want to be late. I 165 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: get and then I was feeling like, why are you late? 166 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: And it was one line, it was nice to meet you, right, 167 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: that was the one audition line that I was waiting 168 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: an hour to say. But we're but obviously so worth it. 169 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: But then, so what do you remember, Like how did 170 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: it unfold for you? So you get hired for the 171 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: one episode theoretically, right, like just one one? 172 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what happened next? You remember? No, of course not. 173 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: It was just just like, oh, and then they want 174 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: you back. But it was just it was casual, kind 175 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: of like it was a casual and are you available? Sure? Great? 176 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: And that was it. But I do think I don't 177 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: know how many episodes I actually was in. Someone should 178 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: find that out. I don't think it was many. But 179 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: because she was spoken about so much, Yeah, she's a 180 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: much bigger character than whatever appeared on air one hundred percent. 181 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: I saw that you had said that interview, and I 182 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: thought that this is very, very true. But I also 183 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: think that you don't give yourself enough credit because when 184 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: you are there, you have such a power and a resonance, 185 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 2: you know, if it had been someone with less like 186 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 2: kind of presence and groundedness. You have a very grounded 187 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: on screen presence, which I think has has proven true. 188 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: And you're very career, very long and amazing career, fourteen 189 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: seasons of Blue Blood. Like it's incredible, right because you're 190 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: very very grounded, intelligent present, and it's such a beautiful 191 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: woman that's very powerful. 192 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: I don't know, if you know, I'm gonna hang out 193 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: with you more often, definitely. It's my job to analyze 194 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: these things. 195 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: And this is what I see so and I think 196 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: at the time, and this is what I remember and 197 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: feel really horribly guilty about because I was so in it, 198 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 2: you know, and I was obviously Charlotte is like this 199 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: fiercely loyal friend that's one of her big things and 200 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: believes in love but also believed in big and Carrie. 201 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: You know, I was very pro big Carrie. Charlotte was 202 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: very pro big for Carrie, right until you weren't exactly 203 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 2: and then I really really was. 204 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: Which I did see that episode recently and I was like, 205 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: how many friends do that? 206 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: Oh? Which we are you talking about? 207 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: How many friends say? What are you doing this is horrible. 208 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: You should not be having an affair, right. Thank god 209 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: you're the other woman. How would you like it if 210 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: this was happening to you, like you really you let 211 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: her have it. You gave her the slip side of things. 212 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: Thank god, Thank god. 213 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: Charlotte does have like a moral compass that is going 214 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: to be you know, in action when things get to 215 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: the nitty gritty, right, like like she might be kind 216 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: of vague and hopeful, and then all of a sudden, 217 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: if you're there, she's like, you know, I believe in marriage, 218 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: and what are you doing? 219 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: Which thank god? 220 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: But I mean, I mean, there's so much talk to 221 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: you about. But one of the things, I just want 222 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: to confess this thing to you. So at the time 223 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: that you came right, First of all, let me say this. 224 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: You know you're referring to all these auditions. I was 225 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: in New York before I got the show, but right 226 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 2: when I got out of college, and I would audition 227 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: like twelve times a day or whatever. And I did 228 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: that in la as well, just bam, bam, bam. Some 229 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: would be commercial, someone would be you know, guest star, 230 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: all the indie different things, right, which I assume you 231 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: were also in the mix. Yeah, I am ninety nine 232 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: percent sure I sat waiting rooms with you. 233 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure we did, but we didn't even know. 234 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: Now it's insane to think about, right, And so for me, 235 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, there's that beautiful woman and she's 236 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: so tall, she's gonna get it. 237 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: Like that. 238 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: That's how I felt, you know what I mean, like 239 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: because it would just be all models. 240 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, remember those days, Yes, yes, for the hair commercial, yes, 241 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: all of it all. 242 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: And then sometimes at the commercial auditions, they'd make you 243 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: go in there and dance. Do you remember this space? 244 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: I don't. I just maybe. 245 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: I mean, but you were so many things you felt 246 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: confident dancing. 247 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: It's a weird. Auditioning is weird, awful. I think it's 248 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: gotten weirder though over the years. 249 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: I mean now it's on tape, you do it in 250 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: your house, not bizarre. 251 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: I know. 252 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: I feel like I would have not better at that 253 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: than in person. In person, I would just shut down. 254 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: And I prefer going in you too, into the audition 255 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: with people and casting directors who have read the script 256 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: and have better lighting and who can work with you. 257 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, casting directors are amazing, that's true, that's true. 258 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: We don't get to see them anymore. 259 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: I guess I don't even understand what's happening now. I 260 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: don't even get it. I don't even which. 261 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: Is why we're here in this dark room. 262 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly exactly. 263 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: But luckily we have a whole career that we can 264 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: talk about. That's right. 265 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: So it's all good, it's all good, Okay, So I 266 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: want to go back to this thing that I have 267 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: to confess to you. So you came, and I remember, 268 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: you know, we read the scripts, right, and we're like, 269 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: you know, oh no, he's good. Come with this. 270 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: Girl, And I mean, we hear facts about you. 271 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 2: He met you in Paris, your character Natasha, he met 272 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: you in Paris, you know, in our mind in the 273 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: Sex and City world of the characters, he's gone to 274 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: Paris and she's trying to move on. She thinks he's 275 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: still in Paris, right, which is why it's such a shock. 276 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: At the party, Yeah, at the party in the Hampton's, 277 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: the rodeo party in the Hampton's, bizarre Yeah, and you know, 278 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: all of us are just like horrified. And I remember 279 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: at some point and I don't think it would have 280 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: been this episode because I think we filmed that party 281 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: in far Rockaway. Do you remember this, but. 282 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: Somewhere I remember. I was in the trailer for a 283 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: really long time because it was a long day. There 284 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: was so much going on, and then I had to 285 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: go out into this massive party. Yes, it was scary 286 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: for me. I'm sorry. How could it not be scared? 287 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: Yes, And this is what I want to say. Normally, 288 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: what I would do for guest star people. 289 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: Which were usually men, I would go and. 290 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: Try to kind of proactively be friendly because it is 291 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: such a scary situation. But because you were like. 292 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: The nemesis, yes, I don't think nobody was taking to me. 293 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: I feel really bad about that. Bridge. Oh it's okay now, 294 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: I know, but. 295 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: I feel really bad because like we were all young, yish, 296 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and like you were new, 297 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: and I just feel bad. 298 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: I don't worry, okay. But then but then we were 299 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: run into each other at the gym all the time, and. 300 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: That's yeah, that was much later, and that was really feeling. 301 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: So nice to me. She was not nice to me 302 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: at the rodeo party. 303 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that I had a chance, because by 304 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: then we weren't in our characters anymore. 305 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: And I could just be like. 306 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: A nor normal person, thank god. Yeah, but I have 307 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: always felt really guilty about it because I didn't even 308 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: really realize how much I had internalized Charlotte's worldview. You 309 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like I was more forgiving of things. 310 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: I don't even want to get into it, but like that, 311 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: you know people who played parts would. 312 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: Do or whatever that Charlotte loved, sure what I'm saying. 313 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: And then I was less forgiving, you know, if you 314 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: were somebody that I felt like, was you know, threatening 315 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: my friend or whatever. And it's like so silly, really, 316 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: and I feel. 317 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: Bad, No, no, but it's so it's so interesting the 318 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: things that we look back on and yeah, I have 319 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: to say since then, like when we when I came 320 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: back for and just like that, it was such a 321 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: nice reunion, right, you know, it was so so nice 322 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: to see you. 323 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: I mean time and distance and getting to kind of immaturity, Yeah, 324 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: maturity and growth and you know, getting to play the 325 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: same characters, but yet having that growth within the characters, 326 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: even though we're still kind of supporting Carrie and her 327 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: insane ideas of that episode. But that's also what I love, 328 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: like Carrie is a flawed character, as all of us 329 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: were flawed. Characters are flawed characters because people are flawed 330 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: and complicated. One of the things I wanted to ask 331 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: you about because I have seen over the years that 332 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: you've commented that people, meaning fans at times, would give 333 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: you a hard time. You bridget a hard time for 334 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: playing Natasha. 335 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: Even though you did nothing wrong, right, you mean, like 336 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: like because they all love Big and Carrie together and 337 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: somehow I was in the way. That's so much. 338 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: Fair, Like what would they say to you? 339 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: What did you say? 340 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: How did you feel? 341 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: I think I actually said out loud sometimes like no, 342 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: she was having an affair with my husband. Let's break 343 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: this down. Good for you. And I don't know how 344 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: you watched those episodes where she's sneaking, I mean sneaking 345 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: to the hotel room. I mean it's extreme and it's 346 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: so not feel like, what are you doing, especially when 347 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: the hotel rooms got worse, I know it was like 348 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: super swanky and then like kind of suspect. Yes, No, 349 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: I'm just saying you didn't. You didn't root for her 350 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: to stay on that path. 351 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: I mean, how could you? I remember though, And this 352 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 2: again is me being Charlotte. Obviously Charlotte didn't really know 353 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: at the time, but like we were pro Big and 354 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: her like it is bizarre and interesting. But then I 355 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: also read an interview where you say something to the 356 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: effect of you know Big was in love with her 357 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: meaning Carrie, And I mean, it is so complicated, right, 358 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: but this is how life is. 359 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 3: Right. 360 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: People are complicated and messy, and obviously they have a 361 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: whole messy thing for so long. It's messy for so long. Yeah, 362 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 2: But I also think as a friend, like, why wasn't 363 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: I like, this is messy for so long? 364 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: I think you were. 365 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: I guess I did at times at times. But then 366 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: I think, also when you see your friend who just 367 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: can't move on or can't get out of that cycle 368 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: or whatever it is, what do you do? You know, 369 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: what do you do? 370 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: Right? 371 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you. 372 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: Don't want to, you have to I guess support. 373 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: Right, I think you do. I think you do, and 374 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: you have to try to be there for them as 375 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: they're going through it or whatever it is. But I 376 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: also have this other personal memory I want to share 377 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: with you. I was in an elevator with you, yes, 378 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: at some point, yes, in between the films and and 379 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: just like that, and I knew that there had been 380 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: so at one point we wanted to do a third movie. Yes, 381 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: and in that third movie, Natasha was in it. Yes, 382 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: did I tell you that? Yes? 383 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: Okay? 384 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: Because I know I wanted to and I couldn't remember 385 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 2: if I had the nerve. 386 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: To spit it out. I wonder, did you tell me? 387 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: And then I ended up never getting the call or 388 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: did you tell me you were. 389 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: Because we were supposed to do it and then it 390 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 2: wasn't good and then there was no third I moved 391 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: so bad, but I put me in and just said that. 392 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: But I think, well, I didn't know that was coming obviously, right, 393 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: because we're just we take so many turns in this 394 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: thirty year long journey. 395 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: Yes, but I because. 396 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 2: I saw you, and I thought to myself because in 397 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: my mind also by that point, having some space from 398 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: being in it, I realized, oh, poor Natasha really suffered 399 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: and has had no like kind of closure and like 400 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: credit paid, you know, but that's what the scene was 401 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 2: going to be, which you kind of got in and 402 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 2: just like that, but it was a bit different in 403 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: the movie that didn't happen. 404 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: And I just wanted you to. 405 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: Know that you have been in our collective writer's mind 406 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: in terms of wanting you to have that. 407 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been fun, I know, but it 408 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: was still fun. 409 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: It was fun when it happened, and it happened in 410 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: a different way, but thank god it happened because it 411 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: was kind of left in such a weird way, you 412 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: know what. 413 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: I But it was so sweet. When Michael Patrick King called, 414 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: He's like, I want to pitch something to you and 415 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: just let me know if you would be open to it, 416 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yes, it would be like I don't 417 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: know what you could just say, I just want you 418 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: sitting at a table and I would have been yes, said, 419 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: I would have brought him coffee on set. It doesn't matter, 420 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: like just a good part of the world again, was 421 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: just an honor. 422 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: I'm so glad. 423 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you felt that. 424 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: I think for us, we feel guilty that we hadn't 425 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: like kind of done you justice, you know, you slash Natasha, 426 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: and so I think that's why he felt like you 427 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 2: might not you know, want to, but we really really 428 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: wanted you to, and we're so happy. Thanks. I'm so 429 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 2: happy that you did. Okay, let's go back in time 430 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: again because I'd love to hear about like the things 431 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: that people remember or don't or whatever. So you go 432 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 2: on two auditions you end up getting Coyote Ugly and 433 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: Sex and the City. Yeah, of course you have no 434 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 2: way of knowing that Sex and the City will go 435 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: on to be this big, massive thing, right, But Coyote 436 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: Ugly I think everyone thought was going to be a 437 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 2: big thing. 438 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: Well, that was also another another moment of me like 439 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: not knowing what I was getting into, and that was 440 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: the Jerry Bruckheimer world. I had no idea who I 441 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 1: live under a rock. Let's just call it Richard. I 442 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: really do like, I don't respect it. I don't pay 443 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: attention to things that I don't need to pay attention to. 444 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: So and I guess I should have paid attention to 445 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: Jerry Berkrimer was. 446 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: But a pretty big deal. 447 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: He's a pretty big deal. And I was a new 448 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: young actor and I don't think I understood the machine 449 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: that he was and how he makes careers. And he 450 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: was he's a major. He just makes hits, right, And 451 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: I think the nice thing about not really knowing that 452 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: is that you're just treating each audition as it all 453 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: means the same, right, it's all an exploration of a character, 454 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: and you're all you're just going out. There's no pressure, 455 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: there's no like ones better than the other, Right. 456 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: You don't know the pressure. 457 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can't You can't ever rely on that. 458 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: How many times have you done a pilot that you think, oh, 459 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: of course it's got these actors, these producers, this network 460 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: behind it, and then it actually never goes anywhere. You know, 461 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: people have whole careers doing that. Absolutely, so you can't 462 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: ever know what's going to be a hit or not. No, no, no, 463 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: so yeah, I remember that was like everyone wanted that job. 464 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but I remember seeing the billboard 465 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: on that building on Sunset Boulevard when you're you're heading 466 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: I believe east, and it's right on Sunset before Losianaga, 467 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: and it's huge, huge, and all of us were on it. 468 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, that's kind of what when 469 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 3: I figured out that that was going to be bigger 470 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 3: than what I you know, because we were just in it. 471 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: We were just you know, but that's learning to dance 472 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: and learning to bartend and just working out with ur Again. 473 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: I love it, And did you you went to the 474 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: real place? I assume and did the research because I 475 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: remember all that. I was sober by that point, so 476 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to stay away from that place. 477 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: But I do feel like somehow I ended up there. 478 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: Did we film there? Maybe? I don't know. 479 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure you felt. I'm sure you feel they did. 480 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: But I think I was going there socially prior to yeah, 481 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: because you were very cool, Well you were. I just 482 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: maybe was out later than I should have been. Oh listen, 483 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: and I lived in the neighborhood. Yeah, I mean you 484 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: live in the life. Yeah, this was the probably like 485 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: a diner now or a Bubby's or a store or 486 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: a store, you know what I mean, probably. 487 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: Like the right right, Yeah, because Bubbies moved, which is interesting. Yeah, Bubbies, Yeah, 488 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: Bubbies with the pie. You guys were going to reminisce. 489 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: Now, okay, so let's go back. 490 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: You did the short little one episode with us second season, 491 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 2: then you go off, you do Coyote Ugly, then you 492 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: come back there's season okay, and did they just yes, 493 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: you did. They would just call you for and say like, 494 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 2: are you available? So you were just doing one by one? 495 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just a day lare. Yeah. 496 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 2: No, no, no, wow, that's insane. 497 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: And every time Chris Nouth would be like, Hi, nice 498 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: to meet you, They're like, dude, and your wife, yes, Chris. 499 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is classic. 500 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: Wow wow wow, Okay, well I love Chris. I mean, 501 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: and then like years later we bump into each other 502 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: in California and he's like, and there's my wife. I'm like, 503 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: you couldn't remember I was your wife when I was 504 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: your wife or now I'm not. No, I'm not your wife. 505 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: That's very Chris. That's a very Chris story. Yes, Chris 506 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 2: was was like weirdly in the moment in weird ways, 507 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. The thing that that occurs 508 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: to me that I want to talk to you about. 509 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's funny because we're rewatching this one episode, 510 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: but you have one line which is adorable, but you 511 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 2: really do it is just such a powerfully horrible scene. Really, 512 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: like even rewatching it all these years later. 513 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: I mean, the one. 514 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: No, I'm going to get to that one. That one also, 515 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: you know, the one where she sees you together for 516 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: the first time, the rodeo slash beach party. I mean, 517 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: I think because we absolutely do not see it coming, right, 518 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: everyone thinks BIG's in Paris. We have no idea she's 519 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: been trying to move on with. And she's flirting with 520 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: that guy, the doctor, the doctor who's good on paper, 521 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: which of course means it's not good in general. No offense, 522 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: but you know everyone knows that. 523 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: But I think that's pretty clear. 524 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: But the thing that I also think is so interesting 525 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: about the episode is is kind of because I'm trying 526 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 2: to pretend Charlie's briend, trying to pretend that she's in 527 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: her twenties, there's an innocence. 528 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: About the episode. 529 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: You know, we're at the beach, it's like younger girls 530 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: and all kind of people are around, and we don't 531 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 2: see it coming at all. You think it's just going 532 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 2: to be kind of like a crazy party episode. You know, 533 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: Charlotte gets crabs from this guy that she goes out with, 534 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: which is mortifying and brilliant and mortifying, and then all 535 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 2: of a sudden it ends with this, you know, basically 536 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 2: a tragedy for Carrie, which is that she looks over 537 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: she sees your goddess young self laughing as you say, 538 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 2: and literally you could have said nothing, it didn't matter, 539 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: just you standing. 540 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: There with him laughing and him laughing with you because 541 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: he seems so different with you. 542 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, because with Carrie he's very kind of stern and yes, 543 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: like kind of covered and manipulative or whatever, and with 544 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: you he just seems kind of relaxed and giggly, kind 545 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 2: of like who is that? So just the vision, and 546 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 2: Sarah plays it so beautifully, like you just feel her, 547 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: you know, her heart just you know, oh the awful 548 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 2: And then she tries to kind of like, hey, how 549 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 2: are you what are you doing here? And he says 550 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: all kinds of stupid things, you know, and then you 551 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: very politely say nice to meet you, and excuse yourself 552 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: because you can see and this is what I mean 553 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: about you being just so grounded and good, like you 554 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: can see in your eyes you oh no. You also 555 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 2: say Carrie, I've heard so much about you, which is 556 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: also so devastating. Yeah, like he's told you about her awful, beautiful. 557 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: But I do feel like there's a look that mister 558 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: Big it's I don't know how to say, mister Big. 559 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: It's cool you said it. 560 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: Mister Big gives to Carrie when they're alone, and he's like, 561 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna call you like there. It was so 562 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: touching and moving and like heartbreaking a little bit that, yeah, 563 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: but also Ken, I know, but I like make it 564 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: you kind of I don't know. I mean, yes, yes 565 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: it was. It wasn't cold, it wasn't like he wasn't 566 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: sure he was he was sorry. Well maybe I thought 567 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: for him, for him, I did. 568 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: I did not feel for him, not one iota in 569 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 2: my rewatching. I'm sure I did at the time, Right 570 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: in my rewatching, I think, like, what a fucking apple? Well, yes, like, 571 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: come on, look at her there, so fantastic, just devastated, 572 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: you know, just like wound the heart, and you, you know, 573 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: so beautiful and cool and calm and poised. You know, 574 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: you're so poised and polite that you excuse yourself because 575 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: you can see that there's you know, unfinished business something 576 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: something going on. And also he told you about her, right, 577 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: what did he even tell you about her? It's so 578 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: well written, obviously the writers are incredible, but so well 579 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: reacted by all three of you in terms of the 580 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: unspoken moments there, which is to me why you then 581 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: became this part, you know, And it reminds me a 582 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: little bit of Kyle. When we hired Kyle to play 583 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: my Trey McDougall. He was supposed to do. I believe. 584 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: I have to ask him. I believe he was supposed 585 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: to do five episodes. And the idea was that he 586 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: was supposed to be you know, Charlotte is now like, 587 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to get married. I'm going to get married. 588 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to get married like a broken record. And 589 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: then she meets him in the street and of course 590 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: he looks like he looks dream a dream, and she's like, 591 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: oh my god, I found him, and everything is perfect 592 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: on the outside, not so perfect in the relationship, but 593 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: she's still going to make it work. And the idea 594 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: originally had been that he would be very annoying, that 595 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: his character would be very annoying, would be very good 596 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: looking but very annoying, that no one would want to 597 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: talk to him. So there's a scene on the boat 598 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: with Chris, Sir, Jessica, Carrie Big Me and Kyle, and 599 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be laughing at all of his jokes. 600 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: They're supposed to be terrible, and the two of them 601 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: are supposed to be like, oh God, he's awful, what 602 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: are we going to do? But he was Kyle, he 603 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: was so charming, he couldn't be not cheering, do you 604 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: know what I mean? 605 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: So we just shifted the writing. 606 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: You know, he was supposed to last five episodes. It 607 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: was not supposed to work out, and then he was supposed. 608 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: To be gone. And how long was he on? 609 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 3: For? 610 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: Years? Like I can't even I don't know, three years years? 611 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we got married, we try to have a baby. 612 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: It's there's still problems the whole time, but Charlotte is persistent, 613 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: She's going to make it work, do you know what 614 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: I mean? 615 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: And he's Kyle. 616 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: We had to write leave the part about him being annoying, 617 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? 618 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: And everybody liked him. 619 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 2: Yes, we were all collectively completely infatuated with him. How 620 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: could you not be? Yeah, I think that's also what 621 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: happened with you. 622 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: And I'm going to go. 623 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: Get to the bottom of it with Michael Patrick. But 624 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: like I think you showed up and everybody's like like 625 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: the light bulbs just you know, it's just perfect. 626 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: That's what I think happened. It was well, it was 627 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: it was a gift that kept giving. I'm so glad. Now, 628 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: what was that like for you? 629 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: Like, Okay, coyote ugly comes out and then you're still 630 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: coming back on the show. You were doing so many 631 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: different things. That's how I remember it. What what was 632 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: your experience? I don't know. 633 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: I think at that time I had fully just I 634 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: had this perception that you couldn't model and be an actress. 635 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: So I put all the modeling aside and just focused 636 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: on acting. And so I wasn't really I mean, you 637 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: do you do, you know, shoots for promotional things and everything, 638 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: but you are your actor self, a. 639 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: Magazine cover you, right, not the model sun You were 640 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: talking and you. 641 00:32:54,160 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: Know, talking, you know what I'm saying, talking, Yeah, yeah, 642 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, it wasn't fun. I feel like 643 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of a lot of films 644 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: at that time. I think so too. 645 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 2: I think you were really busy, and I think we 646 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: were just lucky to be still getting you. 647 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: You know, I think I was. Yeah, it was a whirlwind. 648 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: It was a whirlwind. It was like those two projects 649 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: at the same time. Really just the momentum went. 650 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely And I love to ask people this because it's 651 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: not always what you think, Like, did it was it 652 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: what you thought it would be? Did it make you happy? 653 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: Was it overwhelming? What was it like to have that momentum? 654 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever thought about what it was. 655 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: I didn't go up. 656 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,239 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you didn't analyze it. 657 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: I didn't analyze it. I always felt so fortunate to 658 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: get the projects that I got, and I you know, 659 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: I was working with you know, Beneffleck and al Pacino 660 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: and like Colin Ferrell and just like a lot of 661 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: good projects that were challenging me in different ways. So 662 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: you were rolling with it. I was rolling with it. 663 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: And it was just like when you step back and think, 664 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: while this this happened, like it is wild? Is it 665 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: is totally wild? 666 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: Right? 667 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: But I think I think as a and I see 668 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: some of the young like like Sweeney, what's her name, 669 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: Sydney Sidney Sweeney, I'm just like, I'm watching her and 670 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: it's just so fantastic the success that she's having. And 671 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: at the same time, you just hope that she can 672 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: maneuver because when you and I were coming up, it 673 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: was not what it is now as far as social 674 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: media and the attention, the paparazzi and the lack of 675 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 1: privacy and all that, especially the commentary and the commentary, well, yes, 676 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean I. 677 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 2: Would say like for Sarah Jessica, the lack of privacy 678 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: was a problem, especially when she got pregnant, like they 679 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: you know, I was so worried about her every single day. 680 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: They chased her so relentless. 681 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: I can't imagine horrific, horrific when she's pregnant. 682 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: That was when I really thought, like, I don't I 683 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: don't want that. I don't want that. No, I don't 684 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: want that at all. And she didn't want that, but 685 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: she didn't have a choice at that point, you know, 686 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 2: so I think we had our own version. I think 687 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 2: now the thing that's weird and different and problematic is 688 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 2: the there's so much negative input on social media. Yet 689 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: social media is also really important, so it's hard to 690 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 2: just totally ignore it, you know, in many ways. I mean, 691 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: there are people who do, and more power to them obviously, Yeah, 692 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 2: but like like for her age, for that group, it's 693 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: like it's a it's a way that they communicate, you know, 694 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: it's part of their lives, right, and then to have 695 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: things go, you know, in the crazy ways that they go. 696 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 2: I mean, she doesn't add campaign and then people freak out, right, like. 697 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was brilliant, right, and also that's not 698 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: her idea, No, you know what I mean, but I 699 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: do love like this generation knows how to use it 700 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: as a tool and embrace it in ways that I 701 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: I was just behind on and not comfortable with. 702 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: I mean, look, we all are. It's weird for us, right, 703 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: Like I struggle. I struggle myself. I try to do 704 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 2: it because I have this podcast and you know whatever, 705 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: and it is like it is a whole business now really, 706 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 2: But I get young people to help me out because 707 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, like the idea for us in our 708 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 2: generation of just inviting people in your house to film you. 709 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: That's weird. Yeah it's still weird, right, Yeah. 710 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: Like it's a strange thing, but I think if you 711 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 2: grew up with it, it's not weird at all. Right, 712 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 2: So it is one of those generational issues obviously, but 713 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 2: it is super fascinating to watch. I feel for the 714 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 2: young people because I feel like we all had a 715 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 2: level of you know, bizarre scrutiny. Obviously, you were in 716 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: the modeling industry. It's not an easy industry to come. 717 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: It might have been actually been easier to leave modeling 718 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: and go to acting. 719 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 1: What was your perception, Yeah, well I think that I 720 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: struggled in the modeling because I had maybe opinions, sure, 721 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 1: other things that I needed to express, and you didn't 722 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: have that avenue in that and then. But that's part 723 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: of the part of the reason why I don't watch 724 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: my material afterwards is because I don't want to get 725 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: judgmental or nitty gritty on how I'm looking, because to me, 726 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: that's not the point. Absolutely, so I don't want to 727 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: go down that route. 728 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 2: I agree, that's brilliant, super smart. 729 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: So and it's hard for me as a because I've 730 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: started directing over the last you know, four years, and 731 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: to have to direct yourself is very bizarre because you 732 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: don't want to be paying attention to your own performance 733 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: or how you're looking, so you rely on other people. 734 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: But then you don't have the eye the same I 735 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: and you would have been maybe adjusting things whatever. But 736 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: I have incredible respect for actors who can do it 737 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: so well, like Bradley Cooper. Oh my god, like, how 738 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 1: how down to that man and his talent? I agree, 739 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: in front of and behind the screen absolutely yeah, so 740 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: I know, I know affleck yeah. Also, how do we 741 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: do it? You said a fluck? He I know, but 742 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: it sounded like the commercial. 743 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 2: Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, Ben. 744 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: F Ben yeah, he does a great job. He does 745 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: a great job. 746 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 2: So when you went to Blue Bloods, so you did. 747 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 2: Oh John Wick, I mean one of. 748 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: My another gifts that just kept giving. Incredible and so great. 749 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: I always love to see you. 750 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: If I'm on a plane and I've seen everything that's 751 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 2: on the plane and John Wick's there, I'll rewatch old 752 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 2: John Wick and I always love to see you. 753 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: So great, so great, Keanu, I know a dream Creamy. 754 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: He's on Broadway beyond. I know. 755 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 2: It's incredible, it's incredible. I mean, it's just so great 756 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 2: to be a part of our industry for so long, 757 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 2: so long. 758 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: And I went to the last I met you. 759 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 3: Oh you can talk about him if you want, but 760 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 3: I met you. 761 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: It was it was fun that I went to the 762 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: premiere and he's like, can you believe we've been doing 763 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 1: this for ten years? I was like, what ten years? 764 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, the first time we did this shoot 765 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: was ten years ago. It's like, wow, that is incredible. 766 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: It's incredible. It's a joy, you know, what a joy, 767 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: and like for you to be on this show for 768 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: as long as you have been, and then you know, 769 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: I had the blessing of Blue Bloods as well. So 770 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: it's just, you know, it is We're so lucky. We're 771 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: so lucky. 772 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: We're incredibly lucky. Now, you did fourteen seasons of blue Blood. 773 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: Fourteen seasons. Yeah, and we did have a lot of 774 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: the crew from Sex and the City. I know, yeah, 775 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: we took them. 776 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 2: I know. I'm glad because I mean because they had 777 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 2: a good job. It was good. Yeah, but wonderful, wonderful 778 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 2: crew members. And then so blue Blood is ended and 779 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 2: there's some kind of spin off something what's happening? 780 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: There's a spin off called Boston Blue Got It with 781 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: Donnie got It? 782 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 2: Got It? 783 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, so do you go on there? Are you 784 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: going to go on there? Yes? 785 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 2: Cool? 786 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: Yes, So that keeps on giving as well. That keeps 787 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: on giving, and I'm directing on that. So that's great. 788 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: How fine. When did you start directing on blue Bloods? Yeah? 789 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 1: On Blue Bloods? 790 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 2: Do you love it? 791 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: I definitely enjoy it. I like being on that side 792 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: of the camera. I like working with actors, I like 793 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: participating with all the different departments. It really just like 794 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: revived my interest in the business to be you know, 795 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: just getting just to another layer and another layer and 796 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: another layer. Yeah, it's it was great. Does it get 797 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: boring for you just to be acting now? Well, I 798 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: haven't really. I mean we just finished the show like 799 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: a year ago, got it, and I did, you know, 800 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: a couple of projects after that. But I've got a team, 801 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, I've got a kid who's graduating from high 802 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: school soon. So I'm kind of lame. Oh my god, 803 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: you have a lot to do. I'm just in the 804 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: mom work, leaning into that yes and then congratulation, yeah, thanks, 805 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: and then directing on this. So we'll see, we'll see. 806 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,240 Speaker 1: But you know, the business itself. 807 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 2: Is coming through ohs. 808 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: Metamorphosis, and so it continues, and it continues. But I think, 809 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, it will be really nice to I've been 810 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: working NonStop since high school in one career, you know, 811 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 1: like in credible after high school. So it's like, this 812 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 1: is the first time I've had a like nice conscious break. 813 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: That's nice. So it's been nice. 814 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 2: That's so nice. I think it's so important because you 815 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 2: can't really reflect on things if you're just going, going, going, going, 816 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 2: But I also think in our jobs, going, going, going 817 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 2: is a huge blessing and you're aware of that, you know, it's. 818 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: A huge blessing, and but you know it's I don't know. 819 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: I feel like it's been a blessing. But then while 820 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 1: you're in the circus of moving from project to project 821 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: and doing all these things, like your your concept of 822 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: time is oh yeah, that was season three or oh 823 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: yeah one Africa on that show, right, you know your 824 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: timetable is chunks of time with the poster in mind. Yeah, yeah, 825 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: absolutely I do. And yeah, so. 826 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 2: It's hard for me with the podcast to people will say, well, 827 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 2: when did this happen? In my mind everything is reorganized, 828 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 2: not as reality, you know what I'm saying. 829 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:30,959 Speaker 1: You don't. 830 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: I'm not a linear date date person or whatever I'm 831 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 2: trying to be because I have to be now. And 832 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: sometimes I'll see an episode I'll think, well, I thought 833 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 2: that was in season five. 834 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: In season one, Like it's wacky, you know what I mean. 835 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 2: But I mean it's kind of fun in a way too, 836 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 2: because I do think one of the joys of what 837 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 2: we do is that you're not in one setting at 838 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 2: all times, like a right job, you know, we have 839 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 2: just infinites. 840 00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: Every day is a new day, right. 841 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 2: Interest and change and novelty, and you know, sometimes occasionally 842 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 2: it's difficult, right, but often it's really a joy. 843 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree. 844 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 2: It is so much fun having Bridget moynihan here. We 845 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 2: are going to come back to recap twenty something girls 846 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 2: versus thirty something women, so please join us for more 847 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 2: with Bridget moynihan