WEBVTT - Week 11 Preview; Another Lock off? 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.640 Use the hardtat flings down free plane takes the shotdown 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:08.320 the fielding shutting up round out and gets it heartcount 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:12.800 works touchdown Stewards Mario don first down, shotdown the middle 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.200 of the field. It opened, no safety, there were shark. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.079 Matthews at the twenty, comes back to the fifteen and 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:23.320 Matthews gost opening play touchdown for the Titans runthlis Burger 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:28.600 and soon Tonio Brown touchdown from the tent. Ruthlis Closer 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:38.120 throwing into a tiny l road spincticular catts touchdown. Wow, Wow, indeed, 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:43.600 my boy, oh boy. Mike Torico with the call uh 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:49.080 for NFL Network and NBC and any other streaming services, 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:53.120 Amazons and Amazons in the mix anyway, and Tonio Brown 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:58.520 h three touchdown receptions off ten catches for a buck 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:02.120 forty four, Ben roethlis Rugger through four touchdowns without an interception, 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:06.360 and the Steelers run away from the Tennessee Titans a 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:10.560 forty to seventeen win at Hinesfield, improving the Steelers to 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:15.560 eight and two, and um knocking down the Titans, who 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.399 followed six and four. Their winning streak is over. Dan 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.400 Hanses here along with Greg Rosenthal. The rest of the 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:25.720 heroes coming up soon, but Greg will start here. This 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:30.080 is the Steelers team everyone that says we want a 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.800 real fight in the a f C. This is the 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.320 Steelers team that we saw tonight that can take down 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.520 the Patriots. Yeah, you saw a little bit of everything 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.800 in the Steelers because you saw the frustrating part of 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.760 the Steelers in the first half where they couldn't move 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.840 the ball and they didn't quite finish drives, and it 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.560 was just a little disjointed even though they had the lead. 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:50.760 I mean, you look at the final scores forty seventeen, 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.520 it's easy to forget this was a one score game 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.520 entering the fourth quarter. It would have been a two 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.680 point game entering the fourth quarter if not for Delaney 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.680 Walker dropping a wide open touch at the end of 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.240 the third quarter. So it was a competitive, interesting game 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.080 for three quarters. But then the better team one and 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.720 the Steelers just have too much going for them. And 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.560 the difference between the two halves is the offensive line 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.160 for Pittsburgh, which has just been okay this year, not great, 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.640 really took over in the second half, gave Ben a 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:23.480 lot of time. He played outstanding after halftime twenty twenty 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.480 three for a hundred and eighty four yards and three touchedow. 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.680 They just had everything rolling and you're right when they're 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.320 looking good. They have more talent, I think than any 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:34.720 team in the NFL. I think they're the most talented 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:39.119 roster top to bottom offense defense, and I I don't 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:43.079 disagree with that at all. You've been saying that the 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.720 Steelers are the best team in the league, and I 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:47.520 have been disagreeing with that, and a lot of people 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.839 will disagree with you, and maybe they haven't played that way, 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.720 but that's how I sight that there. That's their ceiling 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.480 and and that's that's what we saw in the second half. 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.400 It was almost like, and I know, Marcus Mariotta, who 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.840 by the way, Tytoons, you know, come back to those 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:04.640 guys with the perform, good pay for them getting you 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.079 getting rid of that Moniker for and it's not gonna happen. 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.160 And uh they he hits the deep touchdown pass that 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.560 you heard. But after that, it kind of was like 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.760 the Titans brought a knife to a gunfight, like they 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.720 got the they got the Steelers unnoticed with that touchdown. 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.440 The Steelers go right back down the field, score another touchdown. 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.760 Then Delanie Delanie Walker makes that drop in the end 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.440 zone and at that point the game is over. That's 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.720 a four point play, four point drop, and then the 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.040 Steelers just walk away with the game. And it just 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.600 shows you and I wrote about it this week, what 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:38.520 happens when uh Levan Bell, Antonio Brown, Juju Smith, Schuster 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.680 and then you find a way to start um getting 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.960 the most out of or something onto Martavis Bryant. What 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.280 can happen to mix? They have not scored thirty points 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.560 all season until tonight and that's a major disappointment, and 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.560 then they drop a forty burger and make you think, Wow, 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:54.680 what happens if they get it together for the back 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.760 end of the Suster is such a difference maker. He 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.640 made one of the key plays in the game, which 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.600 was a third down conversion of very difficult catch and 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.240 he's made a lot of those difficult catches over the 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.360 last few weeks. That kept the drive going where they 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.760 finally finished the red zone drive. It was early in 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.280 the second half and the Titans at that point we're 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.320 playing him pretty even. I mean, the yardage was leaning 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.719 towards the Titans because they were still in that game. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:23.200 Despite Mariota making two big mistakes with two interceptions in 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.080 the first half, and then he threw two more after halftime, 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.280 So forget about it. But the reason why the Steelers 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.479 are so talented because their defense can keep them in 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.480 games like that. Cameron Hayward and Stephen to it. We're 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.360 making plays the secondary even without Joe Hayden and Mike 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.000 Mitchell ended up having a very good night and they 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.520 were setting up the offense who just knocked it down. 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.880 You know, not gonna like to turn this into a 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.640 Mariotta hate fest, but that's terrible. It was a bad game. Actually, 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.720 he showed a lot. He showed why you liked them too. 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.120 I mean, he had ten yards per attempt and he 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:56.520 had a lot of beautiful but then just the mistakes. 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:58.600 Do you see it there? I just don't think he's 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.039 there yet, and I don't think the tunes are there yet, 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.160 and we saw I think tonight was kind of a 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.599 referendum on where they stack up right now. They're not 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:09.680 even close to beating a team like the Steelers on 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.640 the road. Uh I I don't I still don't trust 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.200 their coaching staff. I still think he'd be I don't 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.520 know what their what their offense is trying to do 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.680 melding his college thing in the in the way it 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.040 just doesn't. I don't think it's working staff and the 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.560 running games. They're not getting much help from the running game. Uh. 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.799 And one one more thing from me, a little shout 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.960 out to Antonio Brown, who we almost take for granted. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.440 How incredibly productive he's been for the past what seven 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.720 years or so now? And uh, good stat from ANDREWS 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:44.400 Siciliano on Twitter. He's twenty nine years old. Brown, he 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:48.000 already has more career receptions than fourteen wide receivers and 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.320 tight ends in the Hall of Fame. And yes, the 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.120 game is different now than it was a lot of 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.440 those games in the Hall. But that's an incredible staff. 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.520 That just shows you how special this guy is. He 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.440 is one of the greatest ever played at the position. 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.200 And I don't know if we quite give him enough. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.720 Yeah that I think that's fair. And it's not one 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.680 where it's just stats. You just watch and you can 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:11.400 see how he's the greatest and his practice habits are legendary, 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.320 very similar when you hear about him compared to Jerry 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.279 Rice and some of the just the style and the 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.640 play I saw something he's I know it's it's only fantasy, 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.719 but he's the number one fantasy receiver in terms of 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.560 points perception four straight years. He's the number one, like 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:30.559 one one one one. He's the guy every single time 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:32.360 and it and it is amazing. That's why I think 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.159 you should be afraid of this team. That said the 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.160 Titans defense, I don't trust them at all. And there 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.080 they are a paper tiger six and four And this 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:41.880 is gonna get on some radars in this room. I 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:43.920 have a feeling because their schedule in the next four 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.520 weeks is so easy. They'll probably win three of out 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.960 of those four if they could even win all four, 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:50.800 and so they'll have a good record even though they 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.960 haven't really shown that much. Um yes and Brown helmet 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.440 catch for Brown two. That was cool and one of 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.680 the all time bad beats and fantasy if you have 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.680 Levan Bell on that touchdown that got called back and 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:07.440 then you get buried with a play action touchdown, h 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.360 to the tight end. Now, if you're a big bend 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.960 fantasy owner like Greg and I, it wasn't we enjoyed it. 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:16.840 That was nice? Okay, So that's that game. Oh I 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.680 did lock it up. You locked it up. You got it, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.280 you know, after some of the bad blood between us 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:26.480 on Tuesday. Um, I just want to say that now 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.720 it does look like a really a huge mismatch, But 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.960 at the time the Titans are feeling good about themselves. 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.760 But the Steelers said in our class, I've picked some 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.040 heavy favorites this year that have lost games. So at 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.680 least you picked a favorite that one. All right, So 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.000 there we go. Let's now move on to the rest 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.120 of the show and preview the rest of the week 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:50.480 eleven games. Let's go tam posey do you Around the 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:58.400 NFL Podcast has problems? But Free Agency eight? Welcome back 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.880 to another edition of the Around NFL Podcast, presented by 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.800 Headed Shoulders. My name is Dan Hansas, and I'm joined 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:09.160 by room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling in 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:12.840 a smoking jacket, and Greg Girls and all what's up boys? 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:17.480 Hey Dan, it's a sweater, but doesn't it look like 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.720 doesn't it look like west could have a pipe sticking 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.360 out of his mouth right now? And maybe a glass 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.440 of scotch. I know he's on a brown booze drinker, 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.760 but has that look, doesn't it? It's my professor West outfit, 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:33.040 silk pajamas, maybe that whole thing got the glasses. If 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.600 he just gathered around, West is going to dispense some 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.520 football wisdom to all his subject Let him regale you 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:43.200 around the hearth. Usually a scientist, today Professor Westling about 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.719 to school everyone on the NFL in week eleven. You 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.040 heard at the top of the show. Uh, Greg and 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.120 I are doing a little tightened Steelers chatter. But there's 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.760 so much more to get to this week week eleven. 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.559 Here we are double digit week mark. You know it's 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.280 almost over. You know you're on the beach and can'tcoon. 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.400 You could see it now, can't you. Yeah, I don't 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.480 think that we're anywhere close to that happening weeks season 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.600 starts in the preseason. We're in week seventeen. I've done 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.600 the matter. We are. It is getting down with Some 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.319 of these teams are starting to become massively irrelevant. I'm 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.720 gonna try this. Usually I like to look at it before, 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:23.120 but I'm gonna hang some oney in here. Four teams 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:32.679 on by thirty two minus four is divided by two fourteen. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:38.920 One game already played thirteen to talk about, right, Yeah, 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.079 It's been a long time since I've been that nervous 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.440 I could see that the gear spinning in your hand 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:50.080 that last bye weeks of the year is that it 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.920 actually that's it this year, Mark another sign of you 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:57.679 can't coon spring break Hancoon doesn't really strike me as 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.400 your ideal place to be spending. We also, yeah, you 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:04.439 have a very disjointed view of my bank account. I 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.560 could see Mark maybe doing like um, hitting up like 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:13.319 a college haunt to try to recapture the youth spark. Yeah, 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:17.920 one of those vacations he takes by himself, solo bay case, 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.040 and maybe this is one of them where it's like 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:21.360 all of a sudden, here with a bunch of nineteen 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.160 year olds doing the beer bong and everything. Someone is 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.600 extremely generous with the occasional solo trips. This would get 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.520 red flagged immediately. I got arrested when I went to Cancun, 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.920 by the way, for what. I can't get into that 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:34.920 right now, but it was it felt it felt wrong. 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.080 It's just like it might be murder. It was unjust 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:38.600 I did. Actually it was just the way that the 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.720 cops worked down there. But I saw two or three 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.840 things that I will never forget in Cancount's leave it right, 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.480 so we save it for the Cancoon podcays let's stick 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.559 a pin in it. Another reason to look forward to 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.920 the off season. But for now, let's uh look ahead 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:56.640 to all the games in week eleven, Sunday and Monday 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.080 include We're going to Mexico. Speaking a cancoon, We're going 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.880 to Mexico this week, aren't we. Do we have any 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:08.439 Mexican listeners? Oh yeah, plenty of them. Alright, everybody comes down, guys. 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.959 So speaking with authority on the issue, let's start though 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:18.400 in Chicago. The heart of America, Dan buying time as 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:22.839 he folds the research packet. Right, that's there, that's their 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:29.040 tourism part of America. The heart of America. That's Middle America. Right, Yeah, 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.600 it's definitely middle America. That's the heart of America. Okay, 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:36.440 you're correct, Dan, You bleeding heart liberals. The heart of 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:40.719 America is right in the middle. Okay. So why is 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.600 in Indianapolis the heart of America? I don't know. Chicago 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.320 is just more of the heart. Um, let's talk about 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:50.320 the Lions Detroit. Now there's an American city, hardworking. The 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:55.160 Detroit Lions are five and four, coming off back to 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.400 back winds over the Packers and Browns. A bit of 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.840 a scare against the brown But now they get the 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.680 Bears on the road, and we'll start with Mark Sessler. 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:09.800 Mark the Bears, they can't seem to get this offense going, 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:13.520 whether it's Mike Lennon or Mitchell Robinsky. Well, yeah, and 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:15.280 I think they should have expected that to be the 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:19.240 case when a John Fox is running the operation and 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.880 has enough sway over the offensive coordinator to keep Trabinsky 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.600 completely clamped down for the first month of his career. 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:26.640 You saw him open it up a little bit last week. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.560 But you're the good quarterbacks that are young, that seemed 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:33.240 to grow, have weapons around the Deshaun Watson had DeAndre Hopkins, 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.840 Carson Wentz takes a big leap Jared Goffus as well, 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:39.280 because they've surrounded those quarterbacks with appropriate talent in year 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.120 two and Trabinsky just has very little to work with 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.560 when the running game is not working, that's your hope 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.600 this week. The Browns ran for nearly two d yards 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.280 against the Lions one week ago, and maybe the Bears 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.760 with Jordan Howard can hope for the same. I think 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.040 you have to ask if the coaching staff is really 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.560 doing Trabinsky a favor when the Bears lead the NFL 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.960 and negative rushing place that really helped being Mitch ro Biscuit. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.959 He had a lot of long yardage situations last week 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.360 because of negative plays on running because of a lot 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.400 of pre snap penalties. So that's just poor coaching and 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.439 poor players. And then like their number one receivers don 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:16.280 trelle Inman. This is a guy who essentially was given 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.160 away to them and immediately comes in and that's their 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.480 number one receiver. It's like, you're only gonna be so 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.160 good with that group. That said, they're playing Detroit and 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.959 I look at Detroit and it's like, what's their defensive identity? 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:28.720 They don't really have one. When a thirty one year 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.560 old safety Glover Quinn, who's having a great season is 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:35.120 your best defensive player, It's like, it wouldn't surprise me 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.800 if they just are tougher than the Lions and you 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.199 dial up one of those perfect John Fox game where 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:41.920 it keeps it low scoring and they do run for 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.800 a lot. Chicago's defense has been for real. I mean 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.680 they they they're generating turnovers, which is what you need 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.079 for that offense to get to try to put some 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.160 some you know, ball ball control offense and theory with them. 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:54.760 But I don't know. I just I look at this 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.280 Lions team and what depresses me is you're looking at 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:02.320 Matthew Stafford's sexiest seas and this guy has been fantastic 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.959 And in other years the Lions can hope to get 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.360 into that last wild card spot at nine and seven, 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.079 not this time around in the top heavy NFC, and 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:14.120 Stafford's heroics are completely lost on this campaign. They could 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:18.000 definitely because you know, ask any Lions fan, they'll have 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:21.480 regrets that they didn't maybe make the most of Barry 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.160 Sanders and now you have Matt Stafford there and they 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.520 continue to be a middling outfit. Some people that aren't 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:28.680 as big a fan of Matt Stafford might say he's 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:30.960 played a role role in that, but I'm I'm kind 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.040 of with you, guys, And it does feel like, yes, 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.000 they're on the outside looking in. It's gonna be tough 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.400 to get that wild card um spot and they're unlikely 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.240 to win the division. But even if they made the playoffs, 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.000 what's the ceiling with this team? Doesn't it feel like 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.040 there's not a big difference in this year's team and 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.760 last year's team exactly, And but the NFC is different, 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.160 and that's why they're They're not good enough where I 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.080 know their schedules easy, but they're not good enough where 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.680 I think they win all the games they should, including 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.640 maybe this this week. It wouldn't surprise me. I mean 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.920 that the Bears intercepted Stafford four times last year, only 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.680 you have one UH touchdown to them, Like, it wouldn't 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.720 surprise me whatsoever if the Bears end up winning this game. 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.320 All right, let's move on the Jacksonville Jaguars. They are 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.760 now stacking wins. We talked about it last week. It's 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.600 time to stack wins, and that's what they're doing three 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:18.520 straight after that UH narrow victory over the Chargers UH 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.720 at home. Now they travel to Cleveland, and the schedule says, 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:26.320 hey keep stacking wins. Jacks Chris Westling. The Browns UH 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.760 showed some fight last week against Detroit, but on paper, 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.480 this is one of the bigger mismatches of the year, right, Yeah, 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.400 I know a lot of people are looking for reasons 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.080 for the Browns to pull off an upset here, especially 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.760 with two Shaan Gibson kind of needling the Browns and 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.600 predicting an OH in sixteen sun Mark's radar that they're 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:46.200 not effecting him. It's a Cleveland has made their own 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.120 they they've made their own bed at this point. And 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.200 I know people are talking about, oh, it's hard to 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.880 beat the Browns because they are a top half team 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.120 in terms of total talent. I don't see that. I 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.520 don't see the miss top half in total talent. And 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.760 I see a Jaguars team that is better in every 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.160 single way, and not by a little bit. This is 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:07.440 a lopsided matchup. I expect the Jaguars defense to absolutely 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.440 dominate the Browns offense in this game. I absolutely agree 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.840 you're talking about a team. Some of these defenses, they're 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:14.880 better at home for some reason, they're not good on 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.920 the road. The Jacksonville defense on the road has allowed 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.880 a touchdown in three of fifty possessions, and they lead 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:22.720 the league in turnovers on the road. And I think 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.840 that you're going into a stadium that does not has 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.400 not packed a punch or been tough to play in 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:31.280 in two plus decades, and Jacksonville on on the flip side, 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.040 they're gonna do enough on offense. And Cleveland turns the 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:35.880 ball over more than any team in the league. I 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.520 just don't think there's anything you can point to and say, oh, 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:40.920 Cleveland's got some sort of achilles heel they can pick 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.640 with the Jaguars. I agree with that, but I don't 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:48.160 know great last week. I mean, he he did everything 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.880 possible to give that game away. The only reason that 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:52.920 they wont is because the guy dropped the pick six 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.040 and because the Chargers couldn't get it first down or else. 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.680 The narrative all week would be Blake Boardles blew it. 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.320 Because he did blow it. Well, the game will need 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.640 six to six for that to be right. So the 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.280 case could be that Deshaun Kaiser is coming off by 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.600 far his best game, and I know he's not playing 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.800 the Lions again this week, but he played a great game. 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:12.840 I thought they simplified things he it's it shows a 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.040 curse their season is is that the game is tied 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:16.640 and he goes out with an injury and he comes 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.639 back in in their town. Whatever it was, fight scene points. 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.080 It's like he played by far the best three quarters 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:23.320 of his life. That was kind of what we saw 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.000 that we got excited about. I agree with you on 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.120 that that he played. I texted Mark about that last 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.520 night because it made me think after watching it that 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.720 whatever Tayshaun Gibson says, I think the Browns will find 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:34.800 a way to win a game, because they already showed 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.520 last week that they could put together some stretches of 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:39.800 play and they'll steal. And I don't I don't think 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.520 there this has been a cursed season. I think they 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:45.480 very much have earned this record personally. But I think Kaiser, 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:49.040 you see what had everybody's so excited in August and flashes. 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:50.919 You see it a little bit here and there, and 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:52.760 I think you saw it the whole game last He 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:54.399 played a good game. What they have done in the 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:55.960 last couple of weeks, which I think they should have 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.719 done from the beginning, is loud Duke Johnson Moore carries 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:00.880 out of the backfield. They do get Corey Coleman back. 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:02.600 I still don't like the match up for Cleveland, right, 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:04.680 I mean, this is it's uncanny how every pickup the 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.520 Jaguars had is working. It's not just Calais Campbell, who's 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:08.960 in the mix for a defensive Player of the Year, 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.399 it's Barry Church. It's a joy like everyone they pick 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.719 up has been good. Klais Campbell wouldn't even be my 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:16.959 top pick for Defensive Player of the Year on that defense, 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:20.560 Jalen Ramsey would be fair and I to complete a 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.960 pass against this defense is one of the hardest things 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:25.520 to do. It shouldn't be that hard to complete one pass. 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.919 But the Jaguars defense is incredible. And for all the 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.720 Deshaun Kaiser love that he's getting in this room was 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.080 one week? It was one week. How many times has 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:37.119 he been bench and he still leads the NFL and interceptions? Oh, 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:38.720 I know. I'm just saying he had He's had a 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.879 miserable season. That one game was so far better than 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.560 any other game he's had. Um and the jet After 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.600 watching the game last I sent out a tweet Jaguars, 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.760 I'll give something. I'll give the Jaguars fans some love 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:55.240 for an expansion for guys um and for a fan 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.320 base that went through years and years of ugly, ugly 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.119 seasons under Gus Bradley and before were that even Uh, 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.480 they're really passionate way into it. So when I'm watching 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.200 that game and I'm seeing Blake Bortle's self destructing in 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.199 the fourth quarter of that game and they still survive, 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:12.320 what I tweeted was, doesn't it still feel like wild 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.119 Card weekend, Blake Bortles is gonna break the heart of 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.560 the Jaguars and I I think they're gonna get to 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:19.960 the playoffs and they're in a good, great position obviously 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.159 if they beat the Browns to get there. But I 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.520 still feel like this guy is gonna kill them and 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.720 that will probably be the impetus for change. Went after 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:29.919 you or something or yeah, there were some so a 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.600 lot of people agreed that are outside Jags nation or 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:35.400 the they go into the offseason, they absolutely will find 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:38.040 I'll give them a little of after the direct they've 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.480 seen for the last five or six years. They have 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.480 a home field advantage, that crowd has been going nuts, 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:45.840 especially in that last game and everything. So they're excited. 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:49.439 Let them be excited. Let's um, should we Let's do it. 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.359 Let's let them be excited. It's to say it. I liked. 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.840 I like that the Jaguars hasn't killed their spirit over 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.400 the last it has with some fan base and grain 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.600 of salt because his name was like Psycho Jacks fans. 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.040