Speaker 1: Use the hardtat flings down free plane takes the shotdown
Speaker 1: the fielding shutting up round out and gets it heartcount
Speaker 1: works touchdown Stewards Mario don first down, shotdown the middle
Speaker 1: of the field. It opened, no safety, there were shark.
Speaker 1: Matthews at the twenty, comes back to the fifteen and
Speaker 1: Matthews gost opening play touchdown for the Titans runthlis Burger
Speaker 1: and soon Tonio Brown touchdown from the tent. Ruthlis Closer
Speaker 1: throwing into a tiny l road spincticular catts touchdown. Wow, Wow, indeed,
Speaker 1: my boy, oh boy. Mike Torico with the call uh
Speaker 1: for NFL Network and NBC and any other streaming services,
Speaker 1: Amazons and Amazons in the mix anyway, and Tonio Brown
Speaker 1: h three touchdown receptions off ten catches for a buck
Speaker 1: forty four, Ben roethlis Rugger through four touchdowns without an interception,
Speaker 1: and the Steelers run away from the Tennessee Titans a
Speaker 1: forty to seventeen win at Hinesfield, improving the Steelers to
Speaker 1: eight and two, and um knocking down the Titans, who
Speaker 1: followed six and four. Their winning streak is over. Dan
Speaker 1: Hanses here along with Greg Rosenthal. The rest of the
Speaker 1: heroes coming up soon, but Greg will start here. This
Speaker 1: is the Steelers team everyone that says we want a
Speaker 1: real fight in the a f C. This is the
Speaker 1: Steelers team that we saw tonight that can take down
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Yeah, you saw a little bit of everything
Speaker 1: in the Steelers because you saw the frustrating part of
Speaker 1: the Steelers in the first half where they couldn't move
Speaker 1: the ball and they didn't quite finish drives, and it
Speaker 1: was just a little disjointed even though they had the lead.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the final scores forty seventeen,
Speaker 1: it's easy to forget this was a one score game
Speaker 1: entering the fourth quarter. It would have been a two
Speaker 1: point game entering the fourth quarter if not for Delaney
Speaker 1: Walker dropping a wide open touch at the end of
Speaker 1: the third quarter. So it was a competitive, interesting game
Speaker 1: for three quarters. But then the better team one and
Speaker 1: the Steelers just have too much going for them. And
Speaker 1: the difference between the two halves is the offensive line
Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh, which has just been okay this year, not great,
Speaker 1: really took over in the second half, gave Ben a
Speaker 1: lot of time. He played outstanding after halftime twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three for a hundred and eighty four yards and three touchedow.
Speaker 1: They just had everything rolling and you're right when they're
Speaker 1: looking good. They have more talent, I think than any
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. I think they're the most talented
Speaker 1: roster top to bottom offense defense, and I I don't
Speaker 1: disagree with that at all. You've been saying that the
Speaker 1: Steelers are the best team in the league, and I
Speaker 1: have been disagreeing with that, and a lot of people
Speaker 1: will disagree with you, and maybe they haven't played that way,
Speaker 1: but that's how I sight that there. That's their ceiling
Speaker 1: and and that's that's what we saw in the second half.
Speaker 1: It was almost like, and I know, Marcus Mariotta, who
Speaker 1: by the way, Tytoons, you know, come back to those
Speaker 1: guys with the perform, good pay for them getting you
Speaker 1: getting rid of that Moniker for and it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And uh they he hits the deep touchdown pass that
Speaker 1: you heard. But after that, it kind of was like
Speaker 1: the Titans brought a knife to a gunfight, like they
Speaker 1: got the they got the Steelers unnoticed with that touchdown.
Speaker 1: The Steelers go right back down the field, score another touchdown.
Speaker 1: Then Delanie Delanie Walker makes that drop in the end
Speaker 1: zone and at that point the game is over. That's
Speaker 1: a four point play, four point drop, and then the
Speaker 1: Steelers just walk away with the game. And it just
Speaker 1: shows you and I wrote about it this week, what
Speaker 1: happens when uh Levan Bell, Antonio Brown, Juju Smith, Schuster
Speaker 1: and then you find a way to start um getting
Speaker 1: the most out of or something onto Martavis Bryant. What
Speaker 1: can happen to mix? They have not scored thirty points
Speaker 1: all season until tonight and that's a major disappointment, and
Speaker 1: then they drop a forty burger and make you think, Wow,
Speaker 1: what happens if they get it together for the back
Speaker 1: end of the Suster is such a difference maker. He
Speaker 1: made one of the key plays in the game, which
Speaker 1: was a third down conversion of very difficult catch and
Speaker 1: he's made a lot of those difficult catches over the
Speaker 1: last few weeks. That kept the drive going where they
Speaker 1: finally finished the red zone drive. It was early in
Speaker 1: the second half and the Titans at that point we're
Speaker 1: playing him pretty even. I mean, the yardage was leaning
Speaker 1: towards the Titans because they were still in that game.
Speaker 1: Despite Mariota making two big mistakes with two interceptions in
Speaker 1: the first half, and then he threw two more after halftime,
Speaker 1: So forget about it. But the reason why the Steelers
Speaker 1: are so talented because their defense can keep them in
Speaker 1: games like that. Cameron Hayward and Stephen to it. We're
Speaker 1: making plays the secondary even without Joe Hayden and Mike
Speaker 1: Mitchell ended up having a very good night and they
Speaker 1: were setting up the offense who just knocked it down.
Speaker 1: You know, not gonna like to turn this into a
Speaker 1: Mariotta hate fest, but that's terrible. It was a bad game. Actually,
Speaker 1: he showed a lot. He showed why you liked them too.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had ten yards per attempt and he
Speaker 1: had a lot of beautiful but then just the mistakes.
Speaker 1: Do you see it there? I just don't think he's
Speaker 1: there yet, and I don't think the tunes are there yet,
Speaker 1: and we saw I think tonight was kind of a
Speaker 1: referendum on where they stack up right now. They're not
Speaker 1: even close to beating a team like the Steelers on
Speaker 1: the road. Uh I I don't I still don't trust
Speaker 1: their coaching staff. I still think he'd be I don't
Speaker 1: know what their what their offense is trying to do
Speaker 1: melding his college thing in the in the way it
Speaker 1: just doesn't. I don't think it's working staff and the
Speaker 1: running games. They're not getting much help from the running game. Uh.
Speaker 1: And one one more thing from me, a little shout
Speaker 1: out to Antonio Brown, who we almost take for granted.
Speaker 1: How incredibly productive he's been for the past what seven
Speaker 1: years or so now? And uh, good stat from ANDREWS
Speaker 1: Siciliano on Twitter. He's twenty nine years old. Brown, he
Speaker 1: already has more career receptions than fourteen wide receivers and
Speaker 1: tight ends in the Hall of Fame. And yes, the
Speaker 1: game is different now than it was a lot of
Speaker 1: those games in the Hall. But that's an incredible staff.
Speaker 1: That just shows you how special this guy is. He
Speaker 1: is one of the greatest ever played at the position.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if we quite give him enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah that I think that's fair. And it's not one
Speaker 1: where it's just stats. You just watch and you can
Speaker 1: see how he's the greatest and his practice habits are legendary,
Speaker 1: very similar when you hear about him compared to Jerry
Speaker 1: Rice and some of the just the style and the
Speaker 1: play I saw something he's I know it's it's only fantasy,
Speaker 1: but he's the number one fantasy receiver in terms of
Speaker 1: points perception four straight years. He's the number one, like
Speaker 1: one one one one. He's the guy every single time
Speaker 1: and it and it is amazing. That's why I think
Speaker 1: you should be afraid of this team. That said the
Speaker 1: Titans defense, I don't trust them at all. And there
Speaker 1: they are a paper tiger six and four And this
Speaker 1: is gonna get on some radars in this room. I
Speaker 1: have a feeling because their schedule in the next four
Speaker 1: weeks is so easy. They'll probably win three of out
Speaker 1: of those four if they could even win all four,
Speaker 1: and so they'll have a good record even though they
Speaker 1: haven't really shown that much. Um yes and Brown helmet
Speaker 1: catch for Brown two. That was cool and one of
Speaker 1: the all time bad beats and fantasy if you have
Speaker 1: Levan Bell on that touchdown that got called back and
Speaker 1: then you get buried with a play action touchdown, h
Speaker 1: to the tight end. Now, if you're a big bend
Speaker 1: fantasy owner like Greg and I, it wasn't we enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: That was nice? Okay, So that's that game. Oh I
Speaker 1: did lock it up. You locked it up. You got it,
Speaker 1: you know, after some of the bad blood between us
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Um, I just want to say that now
Speaker 1: it does look like a really a huge mismatch, But
Speaker 1: at the time the Titans are feeling good about themselves.
Speaker 1: But the Steelers said in our class, I've picked some
Speaker 1: heavy favorites this year that have lost games. So at
Speaker 1: least you picked a favorite that one. All right, So
Speaker 1: there we go. Let's now move on to the rest
Speaker 1: of the show and preview the rest of the week
Speaker 1: eleven games. Let's go tam posey do you Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast has problems? But Free Agency eight? Welcome back
Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around NFL Podcast, presented by
Speaker 1: Headed Shoulders. My name is Dan Hansas, and I'm joined
Speaker 1: by room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling in
Speaker 1: a smoking jacket, and Greg Girls and all what's up boys?
Speaker 1: Hey Dan, it's a sweater, but doesn't it look like
Speaker 1: doesn't it look like west could have a pipe sticking
Speaker 1: out of his mouth right now? And maybe a glass
Speaker 1: of scotch. I know he's on a brown booze drinker,
Speaker 1: but has that look, doesn't it? It's my professor West outfit,
Speaker 1: silk pajamas, maybe that whole thing got the glasses. If
Speaker 1: he just gathered around, West is going to dispense some
Speaker 1: football wisdom to all his subject Let him regale you
Speaker 1: around the hearth. Usually a scientist, today Professor Westling about
Speaker 1: to school everyone on the NFL in week eleven. You
Speaker 1: heard at the top of the show. Uh, Greg and
Speaker 1: I are doing a little tightened Steelers chatter. But there's
Speaker 1: so much more to get to this week week eleven.
Speaker 1: Here we are double digit week mark. You know it's
Speaker 1: almost over. You know you're on the beach and can'tcoon.
Speaker 1: You could see it now, can't you. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think that we're anywhere close to that happening weeks season
Speaker 1: starts in the preseason. We're in week seventeen. I've done
Speaker 1: the matter. We are. It is getting down with Some
Speaker 1: of these teams are starting to become massively irrelevant. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try this. Usually I like to look at it before,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna hang some oney in here. Four teams
Speaker 1: on by thirty two minus four is divided by two fourteen.
Speaker 1: One game already played thirteen to talk about, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I've been that nervous
Speaker 1: I could see that the gear spinning in your hand
Speaker 1: that last bye weeks of the year is that it
Speaker 1: actually that's it this year, Mark another sign of you
Speaker 1: can't coon spring break Hancoon doesn't really strike me as
Speaker 1: your ideal place to be spending. We also, yeah, you
Speaker 1: have a very disjointed view of my bank account. I
Speaker 1: could see Mark maybe doing like um, hitting up like
Speaker 1: a college haunt to try to recapture the youth spark. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of those vacations he takes by himself, solo bay case,
Speaker 1: and maybe this is one of them where it's like
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here with a bunch of nineteen
Speaker 1: year olds doing the beer bong and everything. Someone is
Speaker 1: extremely generous with the occasional solo trips. This would get
Speaker 1: red flagged immediately. I got arrested when I went to Cancun,
Speaker 1: by the way, for what. I can't get into that
Speaker 1: right now, but it was it felt it felt wrong.
Speaker 1: It's just like it might be murder. It was unjust
Speaker 1: I did. Actually it was just the way that the
Speaker 1: cops worked down there. But I saw two or three
Speaker 1: things that I will never forget in Cancount's leave it right,
Speaker 1: so we save it for the Cancoon podcays let's stick
Speaker 1: a pin in it. Another reason to look forward to
Speaker 1: the off season. But for now, let's uh look ahead
Speaker 1: to all the games in week eleven, Sunday and Monday
Speaker 1: include We're going to Mexico. Speaking a cancoon, We're going
Speaker 1: to Mexico this week, aren't we. Do we have any
Speaker 1: Mexican listeners? Oh yeah, plenty of them. Alright, everybody comes down, guys.
Speaker 1: So speaking with authority on the issue, let's start though
Speaker 1: in Chicago. The heart of America, Dan buying time as
Speaker 1: he folds the research packet. Right, that's there, that's their
Speaker 1: tourism part of America. The heart of America. That's Middle America. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely middle America. That's the heart of America. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're correct, Dan, You bleeding heart liberals. The heart of
Speaker 1: America is right in the middle. Okay. So why is
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis the heart of America? I don't know. Chicago
Speaker 1: is just more of the heart. Um, let's talk about
Speaker 1: the Lions Detroit. Now there's an American city, hardworking. The
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions are five and four, coming off back to
Speaker 1: back winds over the Packers and Browns. A bit of
Speaker 1: a scare against the brown But now they get the
Speaker 1: Bears on the road, and we'll start with Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: Mark the Bears, they can't seem to get this offense going,
Speaker 1: whether it's Mike Lennon or Mitchell Robinsky. Well, yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think they should have expected that to be the
Speaker 1: case when a John Fox is running the operation and
Speaker 1: has enough sway over the offensive coordinator to keep Trabinsky
Speaker 1: completely clamped down for the first month of his career.
Speaker 1: You saw him open it up a little bit last week.
Speaker 1: But you're the good quarterbacks that are young, that seemed
Speaker 1: to grow, have weapons around the Deshaun Watson had DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz takes a big leap Jared Goffus as well,
Speaker 1: because they've surrounded those quarterbacks with appropriate talent in year
Speaker 1: two and Trabinsky just has very little to work with
Speaker 1: when the running game is not working, that's your hope
Speaker 1: this week. The Browns ran for nearly two d yards
Speaker 1: against the Lions one week ago, and maybe the Bears
Speaker 1: with Jordan Howard can hope for the same. I think
Speaker 1: you have to ask if the coaching staff is really
Speaker 1: doing Trabinsky a favor when the Bears lead the NFL
Speaker 1: and negative rushing place that really helped being Mitch ro Biscuit.
Speaker 1: He had a lot of long yardage situations last week
Speaker 1: because of negative plays on running because of a lot
Speaker 1: of pre snap penalties. So that's just poor coaching and
Speaker 1: poor players. And then like their number one receivers don
Speaker 1: trelle Inman. This is a guy who essentially was given
Speaker 1: away to them and immediately comes in and that's their
Speaker 1: number one receiver. It's like, you're only gonna be so
Speaker 1: good with that group. That said, they're playing Detroit and
Speaker 1: I look at Detroit and it's like, what's their defensive identity?
Speaker 1: They don't really have one. When a thirty one year
Speaker 1: old safety Glover Quinn, who's having a great season is
Speaker 1: your best defensive player, It's like, it wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 1: if they just are tougher than the Lions and you
Speaker 1: dial up one of those perfect John Fox game where
Speaker 1: it keeps it low scoring and they do run for
Speaker 1: a lot. Chicago's defense has been for real. I mean
Speaker 1: they they they're generating turnovers, which is what you need
Speaker 1: for that offense to get to try to put some
Speaker 1: some you know, ball ball control offense and theory with them.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just I look at this
Speaker 1: Lions team and what depresses me is you're looking at
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's sexiest seas and this guy has been fantastic
Speaker 1: And in other years the Lions can hope to get
Speaker 1: into that last wild card spot at nine and seven,
Speaker 1: not this time around in the top heavy NFC, and
Speaker 1: Stafford's heroics are completely lost on this campaign. They could
Speaker 1: definitely because you know, ask any Lions fan, they'll have
Speaker 1: regrets that they didn't maybe make the most of Barry
Speaker 1: Sanders and now you have Matt Stafford there and they
Speaker 1: continue to be a middling outfit. Some people that aren't
Speaker 1: as big a fan of Matt Stafford might say he's
Speaker 1: played a role role in that, but I'm I'm kind
Speaker 1: of with you, guys, And it does feel like, yes,
Speaker 1: they're on the outside looking in. It's gonna be tough
Speaker 1: to get that wild card um spot and they're unlikely
Speaker 1: to win the division. But even if they made the playoffs,
Speaker 1: what's the ceiling with this team? Doesn't it feel like
Speaker 1: there's not a big difference in this year's team and
Speaker 1: last year's team exactly, And but the NFC is different,
Speaker 1: and that's why they're They're not good enough where I
Speaker 1: know their schedules easy, but they're not good enough where
Speaker 1: I think they win all the games they should, including
Speaker 1: maybe this this week. It wouldn't surprise me. I mean
Speaker 1: that the Bears intercepted Stafford four times last year, only
Speaker 1: you have one UH touchdown to them, Like, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me whatsoever if the Bears end up winning this game.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on the Jacksonville Jaguars. They are
Speaker 1: now stacking wins. We talked about it last week. It's
Speaker 1: time to stack wins, and that's what they're doing three
Speaker 1: straight after that UH narrow victory over the Chargers UH
Speaker 1: at home. Now they travel to Cleveland, and the schedule says,
Speaker 1: hey keep stacking wins. Jacks Chris Westling. The Browns UH
Speaker 1: showed some fight last week against Detroit, but on paper,
Speaker 1: this is one of the bigger mismatches of the year, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are looking for reasons
Speaker 1: for the Browns to pull off an upset here, especially
Speaker 1: with two Shaan Gibson kind of needling the Browns and
Speaker 1: predicting an OH in sixteen sun Mark's radar that they're
Speaker 1: not effecting him. It's a Cleveland has made their own
Speaker 1: they they've made their own bed at this point. And
Speaker 1: I know people are talking about, oh, it's hard to
Speaker 1: beat the Browns because they are a top half team
Speaker 1: in terms of total talent. I don't see that. I
Speaker 1: don't see the miss top half in total talent. And
Speaker 1: I see a Jaguars team that is better in every
Speaker 1: single way, and not by a little bit. This is
Speaker 1: a lopsided matchup. I expect the Jaguars defense to absolutely
Speaker 1: dominate the Browns offense in this game. I absolutely agree
Speaker 1: you're talking about a team. Some of these defenses, they're
Speaker 1: better at home for some reason, they're not good on
Speaker 1: the road. The Jacksonville defense on the road has allowed
Speaker 1: a touchdown in three of fifty possessions, and they lead
Speaker 1: the league in turnovers on the road. And I think
Speaker 1: that you're going into a stadium that does not has
Speaker 1: not packed a punch or been tough to play in
Speaker 1: in two plus decades, and Jacksonville on on the flip side,
Speaker 1: they're gonna do enough on offense. And Cleveland turns the
Speaker 1: ball over more than any team in the league. I
Speaker 1: just don't think there's anything you can point to and say, oh,
Speaker 1: Cleveland's got some sort of achilles heel they can pick
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars. I agree with that, but I don't
Speaker 1: know great last week. I mean, he he did everything
Speaker 1: possible to give that game away. The only reason that
Speaker 1: they wont is because the guy dropped the pick six
Speaker 1: and because the Chargers couldn't get it first down or else.
Speaker 1: The narrative all week would be Blake Boardles blew it.
Speaker 1: Because he did blow it. Well, the game will need
Speaker 1: six to six for that to be right. So the
Speaker 1: case could be that Deshaun Kaiser is coming off by
Speaker 1: far his best game, and I know he's not playing
Speaker 1: the Lions again this week, but he played a great game.
Speaker 1: I thought they simplified things he it's it shows a
Speaker 1: curse their season is is that the game is tied
Speaker 1: and he goes out with an injury and he comes
Speaker 1: back in in their town. Whatever it was, fight scene points.
Speaker 1: It's like he played by far the best three quarters
Speaker 1: of his life. That was kind of what we saw
Speaker 1: that we got excited about. I agree with you on
Speaker 1: that that he played. I texted Mark about that last
Speaker 1: night because it made me think after watching it that
Speaker 1: whatever Tayshaun Gibson says, I think the Browns will find
Speaker 1: a way to win a game, because they already showed
Speaker 1: last week that they could put together some stretches of
Speaker 1: play and they'll steal. And I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: there this has been a cursed season. I think they
Speaker 1: very much have earned this record personally. But I think Kaiser,
Speaker 1: you see what had everybody's so excited in August and flashes.
Speaker 1: You see it a little bit here and there, and
Speaker 1: I think you saw it the whole game last He
Speaker 1: played a good game. What they have done in the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, which I think they should have
Speaker 1: done from the beginning, is loud Duke Johnson Moore carries
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. They do get Corey Coleman back.
Speaker 1: I still don't like the match up for Cleveland, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is it's uncanny how every pickup the
Speaker 1: Jaguars had is working. It's not just Calais Campbell, who's
Speaker 1: in the mix for a defensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 1: it's Barry Church. It's a joy like everyone they pick
Speaker 1: up has been good. Klais Campbell wouldn't even be my
Speaker 1: top pick for Defensive Player of the Year on that defense,
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey would be fair and I to complete a
Speaker 1: pass against this defense is one of the hardest things
Speaker 1: to do. It shouldn't be that hard to complete one pass.
Speaker 1: But the Jaguars defense is incredible. And for all the
Speaker 1: Deshaun Kaiser love that he's getting in this room was
Speaker 1: one week? It was one week. How many times has
Speaker 1: he been bench and he still leads the NFL and interceptions? Oh,
Speaker 1: I know. I'm just saying he had He's had a
Speaker 1: miserable season. That one game was so far better than
Speaker 1: any other game he's had. Um and the jet After
Speaker 1: watching the game last I sent out a tweet Jaguars,
Speaker 1: I'll give something. I'll give the Jaguars fans some love
Speaker 1: for an expansion for guys um and for a fan
Speaker 1: base that went through years and years of ugly, ugly
Speaker 1: seasons under Gus Bradley and before were that even Uh,
Speaker 1: they're really passionate way into it. So when I'm watching
Speaker 1: that game and I'm seeing Blake Bortle's self destructing in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of that game and they still survive,
Speaker 1: what I tweeted was, doesn't it still feel like wild
Speaker 1: Card weekend, Blake Bortles is gonna break the heart of
Speaker 1: the Jaguars and I I think they're gonna get to
Speaker 1: the playoffs and they're in a good, great position obviously
Speaker 1: if they beat the Browns to get there. But I
Speaker 1: still feel like this guy is gonna kill them and
Speaker 1: that will probably be the impetus for change. Went after
Speaker 1: you or something or yeah, there were some so a
Speaker 1: lot of people agreed that are outside Jags nation or
Speaker 1: the they go into the offseason, they absolutely will find
Speaker 1: I'll give them a little of after the direct they've
Speaker 1: seen for the last five or six years. They have
Speaker 1: a home field advantage, that crowd has been going nuts,
Speaker 1: especially in that last game and everything. So they're excited.
Speaker 1: Let them be excited. Let's um, should we Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's let them be excited. It's to say it. I liked.
Speaker 1: I like that the Jaguars hasn't killed their spirit over
Speaker 1: the last it has with some fan base and grain
Speaker 1: of salt because his name was like Psycho Jacks fans.
Speaker 1: Some guy on Twitter was like when I when I
Speaker 1: went back and forth them a little bit on the topic,
Speaker 1: he was like, uh, talk to me. In January. I
Speaker 1: had a run in with him as well. I I
Speaker 1: I saved that tweet. All right. Moving on, the Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens are four and five, Uh, coming out of a
Speaker 1: bye week. Uh. They have a pulse in the a
Speaker 1: f C because of that number six playoff spot is
Speaker 1: wide open right now, and now they get what looked
Speaker 1: like probably a terrible matchup for them Greg a couple
Speaker 1: of months ago. Now they get to go on the
Speaker 1: road and face our boy, Brett Hunley. Hunley did some
Speaker 1: things last week, but speaking of the shan Kaiser, maybe
Speaker 1: getting too much love in this room. Maybe there's a
Speaker 1: little bit too much love for Brett Hunley's performance last week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard a lot about okay, breakout game for Hunley
Speaker 1: finally shot up. Okay, alright, let's go, let's watch us.
Speaker 1: He had two throws in that game, two really good
Speaker 1: throws which helped them win the game. And for a
Speaker 1: young quarterback, he deserves credit for that, and that's fine.
Speaker 1: But otherwise it looked like the same bread that we've
Speaker 1: seen and this time. I know the Bears defense is solid,
Speaker 1: but they did a good job protecting Hunley and the
Speaker 1: secondary in Chicago is not too great. This is a
Speaker 1: much much different story. I respect this Ravens defense. John
Speaker 1: Harbaugh quietly has one of the best records coming off
Speaker 1: of by usually don't put too much into that stuff.
Speaker 1: It's something like twelve and four. I trust this coaching
Speaker 1: staff to improve this team, and this matchup for Hunley
Speaker 1: in the Packers offense is dreadful. I can't see them scoring.
Speaker 1: I just look at the game like this and it's
Speaker 1: just you picked the best unit, and there was one.
Speaker 1: It's Baltimore's defense by far in this game. And I
Speaker 1: look at green Bay and say, you don't have Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones anymore. He's out for what three plus weeks? And
Speaker 1: green Bay, to me, it's it's they have. They haven't
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs since two thousand and eight, where you're
Speaker 1: gonna miss it this time? So we we already forked
Speaker 1: them at five. I don't think they're even I don't
Speaker 1: think that's on their radar, but potentially it's on the
Speaker 1: It's on the board on the refrigerator in the break room. Dan,
Speaker 1: I heard you kind of wondering a couple of podcasts ago,
Speaker 1: like what's what's Where's Joe Flacco at? In his career.
Speaker 1: Now I've done a deep dive study on him. Professor
Speaker 1: Wesling puts down the pipe and gets to work. Joe Flacco,
Speaker 1: remember when he came into the league and he was
Speaker 1: kind of sneaky athletic. He'd takeoff running and he looked
Speaker 1: for his gump, but he would get away from pressure.
Speaker 1: He's not that guy anymore since the a c l
Speaker 1: in the back injury. He now has the skill set
Speaker 1: of your average Oswaller Savage Mettenberger Weed, and he's a
Speaker 1: statue in the pocket. He's mechanical. He there's no kind
Speaker 1: of like, uh, improvisation to his game whatsoever. And if
Speaker 1: you let him sit back there and throw behind a
Speaker 1: great offensive line with receivers who can get open, he
Speaker 1: can still hurt you. But he's one of the worst
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league now and it's because he doesn't move.
Speaker 1: I do wonder, though, do you think that this this
Speaker 1: season specifically like the best. We never really heard that
Speaker 1: the back was completely healthy. And remember when Romo was
Speaker 1: dealing with that that he just he he looked like
Speaker 1: a completely different athlete. And do we get a better
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco next season? I'm not arguing that we do,
Speaker 1: but it just seems like he'd be healthy. Back injuries,
Speaker 1: if you follow sports, are devastating. My boyhood hero, Don
Speaker 1: Mattingley never the same. Larry Bird had ended his career.
Speaker 1: He's an all time legend. Tony Romo jacked up his career.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just don't get back from the last game before.
Speaker 1: As I said, back the last game before the bye
Speaker 1: they're on, they're having third and ten, third and longs
Speaker 1: where he's just throwing one yard passes right away. He's
Speaker 1: not even holding the ball and waiting to see if
Speaker 1: someone comes come up it. It's just like, let's let's
Speaker 1: throw a dink and dunk right away. This is a
Speaker 1: guy with the one of the biggest arms in the league.
Speaker 1: It's tough to watch well. The coaching staff has to
Speaker 1: have a quick strike offense because he can't get out
Speaker 1: of the way of pressure, and he gets rid of
Speaker 1: the ball because he doesn't want to get hit. And
Speaker 1: yet when when I look at this game, I do
Speaker 1: think maybe they'll open it up. He's been asking for it,
Speaker 1: and they are a little healthier, Maybe they get Danny
Speaker 1: would head back. And one underrated aspect here that you
Speaker 1: guys haven't considered are the football gods, because unfortunately the
Speaker 1: flex Nola movement was not successful. I consider it successful,
Speaker 1: had over three thousand retweets, ten thousand likes, you know,
Speaker 1: lots of hashtag humble bragging here, Greg St Saints Rams
Speaker 1: was not moved to Sunday Night. They're gonna keep Brett
Speaker 1: Hunley in the Packers, and the football gods aren't gonna
Speaker 1: like this keeping Brett Hunley in half in in prime time,
Speaker 1: and so they're gonna make the Packers lose by an
Speaker 1: this week and have that Sunday night game be at
Speaker 1: a Dog. And that's why I'm locking this up. I
Speaker 1: like that right. Assume that Greg greg has lived a
Speaker 1: life for the football Dogs. Smile on on him and
Speaker 1: his activity here. That that's the football gods. Now I
Speaker 1: have a complete review of the football gods. The football
Speaker 1: gods do not seem kind spirited in my in my worldview,
Speaker 1: uh me either? Mark you. That's Arcatampos behind the glass,
Speaker 1: filling in for the great Lindsay Bolton's cannon. Luis Can
Speaker 1: a little under the weather. Are you're doing okay? Doing okay?
Speaker 1: Erica is doing amazing work on the NFL Pick Them
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Speaker 1: on three times a weekend, maybe four four, four times
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Speaker 1: Sunday morning. You would think we would have the times.
Speaker 1: It gets better with that third and fourth watch. You
Speaker 1: gotta watch all does well if you should come by
Speaker 1: Fridays when we have to watch the show forty times
Speaker 1: down before it gets sent out, you really love it,
Speaker 1: then hard pass um, Let's move on. Uh here's a
Speaker 1: bummer of the game. Marccessor. The Arizona Cardinals four and
Speaker 1: five couldn't figure out a way to beat the Seahawks
Speaker 1: last Thursday night, and now they go to Houston to
Speaker 1: face the three and six Texans, two teams that had
Speaker 1: a chance if only, speaking of those football gods, decided
Speaker 1: not to wipe away many of their premium players to injury.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this game yesterday and it uh
Speaker 1: brings to mind another concept of a rule change that
Speaker 1: would benefit fans and really all humans. Uh well, I
Speaker 1: would I would set this game at this point in
Speaker 1: the season to to twenty minute running halves. The clock
Speaker 1: runs okay, and this is out and this is the
Speaker 1: Texans fans, You're out you're out in the middle of Texas.
Speaker 1: You put a nice, big country music venue at halftime,
Speaker 1: let them have a great concert sandwich with two very
Speaker 1: quick twenty minute running halves where you get this football
Speaker 1: product off the field and you move on to next week.
Speaker 1: Brooks and Done Dar I don't know the names of
Speaker 1: any of them. If I'm Bruce Ariums, I'm thinking, hey,
Speaker 1: we're four and five. This could be my last year
Speaker 1: as a coach. Feels like that's short changing him and
Speaker 1: his potential. You know, well, you're little. Your little football
Speaker 1: gods want want good football according to you, so they
Speaker 1: don't want this game. Others would say it's massively disrespectful
Speaker 1: to the players and in the game itself. I didn't
Speaker 1: say it was a rock solid theory. I like it though.
Speaker 1: We should, especially if we can get Brooks and Done involved.
Speaker 1: We might bog You might have Blaine Gabbert involved. Looks
Speaker 1: like Blaine Gabbert's going to be starting in NFL. Anybody
Speaker 1: he had started over Drew Stanton from the beginning. What
Speaker 1: were they doing here this week? Standing is bad enough
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, Why do you want to try to
Speaker 1: play him with a bum knee? Is that area means
Speaker 1: you loyal to Stanton. I feel you put the Cardinals
Speaker 1: at a disadvantage by not putting the much more athletic
Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert, who he called a future starter in a
Speaker 1: high ceiling quarterback Although for the critic, Stanton was not
Speaker 1: terrible against the Seahawks, he was okay. He's got some
Speaker 1: kaepernicky in him, where he only has one speed on
Speaker 1: his throws. They are I think that's a totally different game.
Speaker 1: If he hits a few throws and he couldn't hit
Speaker 1: he couldn't hit throws. I guess I have such low expectations,
Speaker 1: like he's the bet whoever starts for the Cardinals is
Speaker 1: better than the Texans starter. And the Cardinals have been
Speaker 1: very unlucky. They lost d J. Humphries, who has been
Speaker 1: playing pretty well for limit left tackle. They lost Tivan
Speaker 1: Brands for this season, who's been playing very well, probably
Speaker 1: better than Honey Badger at safety. So it's it's not
Speaker 1: even just Carson Palmer. They've had a lot of injuries.
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting to hear rap Sheets say
Speaker 1: that people around the league are excited to watch Blaine
Speaker 1: Gabbert in this offense because of how he did in
Speaker 1: the preseason, and Bruce arians reputation with quarterbacks that they
Speaker 1: think he might be salvage one quick thing on all
Speaker 1: set with Blaine Gabbert personally, but you know what he
Speaker 1: know he had some flashes with the Niners too, on
Speaker 1: a really bad team. I know I've heard all that.
Speaker 1: All right, we won't. We won't Tom Savage last week
Speaker 1: two picks and two lost fumbles. Okay, he blew the
Speaker 1: team up. And this is not count the fact that
Speaker 1: he had a pick six called back by penalty and
Speaker 1: he almost threw another pick six? How poorly can you
Speaker 1: play at quarterback? After spending an entire summer hearing the
Speaker 1: Tom Savage was the answer for this team, That's what
Speaker 1: they were saying about their own team. That is hideous.
Speaker 1: I just don't. I cannot do the Tom Savage experience
Speaker 1: anymow everybody everybody's I think. I think we're with you.
Speaker 1: I think Texas fans are are with you. Everyone's on
Speaker 1: the same page of time. More mini camp and o
Speaker 1: t a thank you over quarterbacks who've never been thank you.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's our biggest takeaway from this season.
Speaker 1: And it's like the fifth season we've done the show
Speaker 1: together is we're not working in July and August. We're
Speaker 1: just not and we're going to talk to the shadowy
Speaker 1: league figures as it's not to the preseason. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: especially the preseason. You know what I see happening will
Speaker 1: be working and we will fall for all these narratives.
Speaker 1: Once again, let's we have no choice. It's it's part
Speaker 1: of the paycheck is to write about it. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers beat the Jets, but they still
Speaker 1: stink their three and six fourth in the NFC South.
Speaker 1: That's the last place they travel uh to Miami to
Speaker 1: face the Dolphins, who are um riding a three game
Speaker 1: losing streak. Actually, while we're here, it's time to add
Speaker 1: to the list of the Dune the Miami Dupins and
Speaker 1: the yachts the Dune Verbancos. Add them to the list.
Speaker 1: I think we're up to thirteen and we we are
Speaker 1: saying that the Dolphins, Broncos, and Jets have no chance
Speaker 1: of making the playoffs. The fork in their back, Goodbye,
Speaker 1: Goodbye Miami. Somehow four and five and yet dead last
Speaker 1: in Football Outsiders Metrics behind the hind a win list
Speaker 1: team that's tough. To do and the other team's just
Speaker 1: if you're tracking at home, stick a forking him. We
Speaker 1: right off teams, no chats and making classes. We get
Speaker 1: one wrong or more than one wrong, we will make
Speaker 1: a donation to the city where that team plays. So
Speaker 1: these three teams join the Browns, Niners, Giants, Colts, Bucks, Bears, Texans,
Speaker 1: Bengals and Packers. And it's funny because this matchup is
Speaker 1: so bad that I guess no one would be shocked
Speaker 1: at Miami one look at this song take off. I
Speaker 1: would be shocked, you would be. This team is terrible.
Speaker 1: But Ryan Fitzpatrick's the other quarterback. The Dolphins are offensive
Speaker 1: to football. Well, I feel it the same way about
Speaker 1: the Bucks. Honestly, this where we thought Tampa Bay would be.
Speaker 1: In Miami coming off a playoff season. This has to
Speaker 1: be two of the most disappointing teams you could possibly
Speaker 1: conjure up. Tampa Bay coming out of hard knocks. We're
Speaker 1: talking about them is winning the NFC South. They are
Speaker 1: like the third fourth worst team in football right now.
Speaker 1: It occurred to me that we probably haven't said one
Speaker 1: nice thing about the Buccaneers in many weeks, So I've
Speaker 1: got to I've got two nice things. Lavante David seems
Speaker 1: like it kind of went away for a few years.
Speaker 1: Is like, this is the guy outside linebacker and he's back.
Speaker 1: And then Chris Godwin. I love this wide receiver. I
Speaker 1: think he is gonna be a legit like good NFL
Speaker 1: starter from what he's shown. They gotta get him on
Speaker 1: the field more. Uh. And when my one last thought,
Speaker 1: and it's a very heavy charge to throw. And you
Speaker 1: know we're on the outside, so I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: this is the truth. Kind of looked like the Dolphins
Speaker 1: quit a little bit on Monday night. Well how could
Speaker 1: that be because they traded jag I away to send
Speaker 1: a message? Well, and I was that's the second part
Speaker 1: of my point, West, And that's it's very great that
Speaker 1: you brought that up, because you know, when you got
Speaker 1: a head coach, I got him gaze you kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: I admire his mox. He's not afraid to stick it
Speaker 1: to his guys, even in a press conference, Like I
Speaker 1: wonder if that act gets tired after a while. And
Speaker 1: what do you what do you say when you're teeing
Speaker 1: off on the guys when you're three and two or whatever,
Speaker 1: what do you say, when the season is now actually
Speaker 1: floating away and it doesn't look like the efforts there,
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's sneaky as heiny is a little
Speaker 1: getting warm if this season continues to devolve, I feel
Speaker 1: like a gi e when when he was playing well
Speaker 1: and it was more last year than this year, was
Speaker 1: the identity of that offense and they are an offense
Speaker 1: you cannot find any sort of d n A, any
Speaker 1: identity to Miami. They're impossible to watch. You know, it
Speaker 1: was happy Ryan Townehill because he's probably probably gonna stay
Speaker 1: there now. Right after the performance from Cutler, Yeah yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: let's move on the oh the team of around the NFL,
Speaker 1: and we bad job by us. They're they're playing great
Speaker 1: the Rams right now. Uh And we didn't even call
Speaker 1: it out after their absolute uh latest uh destruction of
Speaker 1: a team against the Texans last week. So let's shout
Speaker 1: out to the Ramps, who were doing great. I think
Speaker 1: they're like four and one now since being named the
Speaker 1: team of a t L. Now they traveled this where
Speaker 1: he gets real, what's the blowouts too? I mean we're
Speaker 1: just taking these Rams blouts for granted since they were
Speaker 1: named the team of a t L They lost sixteen
Speaker 1: ten the first week, and you know a little team
Speaker 1: of a t hell sniff going on. I took offense
Speaker 1: to that. But since then, seventeen over the Texans, over
Speaker 1: the Jaguars at Jacksonville, thirty three zip against the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: went to their bike, came out of their by, dropped
Speaker 1: a fifty burger on the Giants in the meadow ends,
Speaker 1: and thirty three seven over the Texans. And now they
Speaker 1: get Greg the Vikings. So a matchup of two seven
Speaker 1: and two teams. I'll start with this question, Greg, Jared
Speaker 1: goff Um obviously a distant in the m v P
Speaker 1: race third place, I would say fourth place where everyone
Speaker 1: put him. I would not put him in the top twenty.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even put him first on his team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's just by Jared. All Right, I mean,
Speaker 1: comeback player, Dan, you know, throwing this out scientists, scientists,
Speaker 1: I apologize all of his m v P love into
Speaker 1: the Sean McVeigh for Coach of the Year bucket. Okay,
Speaker 1: but you want to get after Girley, I'm not really
Speaker 1: into that either, but I'll take it. Can I apologize?
Speaker 1: I apologize Anyway, Jared Goff is having a really really
Speaker 1: nice season, and now here's a really really big test
Speaker 1: against the Vikings on the road. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: we talked about it on the last show that they're
Speaker 1: playing the four basically next best teams in the NFC.
Speaker 1: They are the center of the NFL world. And I
Speaker 1: think Sam Farmer, the dean of Los Angeles football scribes
Speaker 1: out here, pointed out, like, who would have thought a
Speaker 1: year ago case Keenum versus Jared Goff is the is
Speaker 1: the game of the week a year ago at this
Speaker 1: time we're talking about that as a possible quarterback change,
Speaker 1: and everything's a disaster. And Goff is a guy who's
Speaker 1: doing everything that they're asking he as a couple you know,
Speaker 1: moments each week. And the question kind of I'm looking
Speaker 1: at what this game is if they really get pressure
Speaker 1: on him, If that front four for Minnesota, which has
Speaker 1: been so good and they think they're getting Everson Griffin
Speaker 1: back this week, gets pressure on him, how does he respond?
Speaker 1: Because by the numbers under pressure, he's actually has one
Speaker 1: of the lowest completion percentage and some of the worst
Speaker 1: numbers in the league under pressure, And so that to
Speaker 1: me is the key for Minnesota. I I said this
Speaker 1: last week, he's thrown into the biggest windows in football
Speaker 1: thanks to Sean McVeigh and his play calling and his
Speaker 1: route concepts. He before this three game john against bad teams,
Speaker 1: he had gone four straight games under six completion rate.
Speaker 1: I like what Jared ghost when he's hitting some deep
Speaker 1: throws really well too, beauty, But he's not playing at
Speaker 1: a level like m v P quarterback now. I think
Speaker 1: he's a second year quarterback who's playing that sort of
Speaker 1: role where you're making sure he gets all the support
Speaker 1: that's called great coach. And it's nothing against Golf. Well,
Speaker 1: we we spent the big chunk of the off season
Speaker 1: always asking what is it we need to see from
Speaker 1: golf to be impressed by his second campaign, and he's
Speaker 1: done that, no questions. I look at a guy like Lesnie.
Speaker 1: There are other general managers around the league that right
Speaker 1: now are attached to coaching staffs or issues in general
Speaker 1: where they're embattled and you're wondering if they're gonna be
Speaker 1: out of a job soon. It is worthwhile taking a
Speaker 1: look at what he's done. The courage. Uh that he's
Speaker 1: lucky he kept the job Number one, but when you
Speaker 1: get rid of this whole Jeff Fisher experience, you hire
Speaker 1: what looks like in Sean McVeigh, not just a coach
Speaker 1: of the year, but maybe someone with what we've seen
Speaker 1: so far that could be there for fifteen years plus.
Speaker 1: And you have a quarterback that you compare with him.
Speaker 1: The franchise Peyton Vibe with the energy as a completely
Speaker 1: different feel around this team that a year ago was unwatchable,
Speaker 1: the idea that rams Viking and for all the teams
Speaker 1: that I know, I dump on a bunch of these
Speaker 1: teams at this point because they don't believe in them.
Speaker 1: The NFC has been a delight. It's it's it's morphed
Speaker 1: into a fascinating conference to watch, and you gotta ride
Speaker 1: with it. And they announced since we last recorded that
Speaker 1: good point, the Vikes and Mike Zimmer announced that case
Speaker 1: Keenum is going to be the start. There was a
Speaker 1: report from Jay Glazer that the Vikings were very tempted
Speaker 1: to go with Bridgewater, and we've gotten through that. We've
Speaker 1: this show has gone through this enough. I think the
Speaker 1: Bridgewater Keenum debate, we could talk about that another time.
Speaker 1: I didn't get the voice of my opinion, but let's
Speaker 1: hear it. Let's hear it. Well, we have a little
Speaker 1: insider on insider crime here, because Jay Glazer reported the
Speaker 1: Viking see Teddy as the franchise and they were tempted
Speaker 1: to play him. Rap Sheet reported His sources say they
Speaker 1: were never seriously tempted to play Teddy. That Keenum is
Speaker 1: simply playing too well. He's earned a longer rope and
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense now to even think about turn
Speaker 1: into Teddy. I think that's right to that point. The
Speaker 1: Glazer tweets specifically got on my radar a little bit yesterday,
Speaker 1: and I I am not against Teddy Bridgewater, but sometimes
Speaker 1: when I see something like that, he Glazer's wording was
Speaker 1: he is the franchise, blah blah blah. Did I miss
Speaker 1: the Teddy bridge water breakout season but for the knee
Speaker 1: injury where it was like, oh, this guy is the
Speaker 1: future for them because I know he made plays and well,
Speaker 1: let me finish, he made plays and he's the guy
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of hope around him. But that's
Speaker 1: why I was really struck by that tweet. Specifically, I
Speaker 1: was like, don't we need to see how this guy looks? Yes,
Speaker 1: but we haven't seen it, but they're the ones that
Speaker 1: drafted him, and they have. They believed he was. He
Speaker 1: was a top For instance, his rookie year, he finished
Speaker 1: in the top twenty in my QB Index. Like if
Speaker 1: you're a rookie, that's very that's very on point with
Speaker 1: Mariota and Winston and a lot of young quarterbacks. Like
Speaker 1: for a rookie year that was solid. Second year was
Speaker 1: a little more mixed. But they believe in him. And
Speaker 1: I think the main thing is they look at this
Speaker 1: coaching staff and they look at this offensive line, which
Speaker 1: is playing so well this year protecting Kingdom. They look
Speaker 1: at the best wide receiver duo in the league, and
Speaker 1: I think they think it's a different team around. I
Speaker 1: totally agree we had because right now you don't need
Speaker 1: a brilliant quarterback to operate this offense. But you can't
Speaker 1: have an implosion. You can't in no matter case imploded
Speaker 1: last week again if they're defaced. He threw what could
Speaker 1: have been a pick six in the first half, and
Speaker 1: he threw two of the worst interceptions while leading late
Speaker 1: in the game. He was just named to the FedEx
Speaker 1: Air Player of the Week. About twelve minutes it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It was a cardinal sits those where Ryan Fitzpatrick, Josh
Speaker 1: McCown types of throws and they and they still and
Speaker 1: they still piled up yards and piled up points. That's
Speaker 1: a quarterback's job. The thing is, you know this coaching
Speaker 1: staffs he's Teddy in practice all the time. I don't care. Nobody,
Speaker 1: not even Teddy Bridgewater, knows how he's gonna react coming
Speaker 1: off the most devastating injury in the history of quarterback play.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows. He doesn't know how when Aaron Donald and
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn sandwiched him, how he's going to react. He
Speaker 1: doesn't know how he's gonna how a psyche is going
Speaker 1: to be in the face of I think it'll take
Speaker 1: care of itself exactly. Let letting the coaching staff dodge
Speaker 1: the bullet. But let let if you if you think
Speaker 1: a case keenum is is gonna implode week after week
Speaker 1: and say you are, Greg, I'm not sen you are.
Speaker 1: But if that's the case, there's gonna be a natural
Speaker 1: door opening to in breakwater. But don't force it. After
Speaker 1: what just happened, He's he's done as much as you
Speaker 1: could have ever. I totally agree I I just think
Speaker 1: if you really are watching his last four or five games,
Speaker 1: interception every single week, I don't think he's played as
Speaker 1: well the last four or five as he did. Again,
Speaker 1: it's case Keenum and you couldn't have asked the guy
Speaker 1: to do anymore. At the two quick thoughts West, Uh, Joe,
Speaker 1: thisman would like a word with you, and the worst
Speaker 1: quarterback injury ever just saying he wants to talk to
Speaker 1: you personally. Well, I okay, that's that's fair, but I
Speaker 1: think Teddy's but I get it. I don't and he'll
Speaker 1: talk like it'll be like conversation where you don't get
Speaker 1: a word in. I don't speak to I don't write
Speaker 1: any stories with base with beat writers basing it off
Speaker 1: at Eisman's comments he doesn't mean anything and Greg fed
Speaker 1: ex air and ground. I don't think it was one
Speaker 1: of his better games of the year. I really don't,
Speaker 1: but I am I think he had. He hasn't like
Speaker 1: Adam Feld and make it crazy, but I think it would.
Speaker 1: It tells you there wasn't a lot le's pick from
Speaker 1: let's pick this game. I was gonna lock this up,
Speaker 1: but I thought the god smiting thing would be more fun.
Speaker 1: But I think the Rams are gonna win this game.
Speaker 1: I think they're the more complete team. They're better on
Speaker 1: special teams, they're better on defense. Overall, I like the
Speaker 1: Rams better. Really think I'm gonna go Vikings. I'm going Vikings.
Speaker 1: I respect them in their building, and I think the
Speaker 1: Rams have You know, it's great that they've been pummeling
Speaker 1: bad teams because that's often a more accurate sign of
Speaker 1: how good you are than winning close games against good teams.
Speaker 1: But this is this is a lot different opponent than
Speaker 1: they're used to facing. Like, yeah, I like the Vikings
Speaker 1: at home, and I think comes down to earth a
Speaker 1: little bit. I think he takes I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a rough day for Jared. I think both quarterbacks
Speaker 1: could struggle in this game for sure. And now I
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Speaker 1: move on. The Washington redskins are four and five Uh,
Speaker 1: coming off it lost to those vikings and now they
Speaker 1: travel to face the Saints. Oh my goodness, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: the Saints playing better than anyone in football right now
Speaker 1: speaking you want to go down the Ledger. It is
Speaker 1: a five game winning streak. Uh seven game winning streak.
Speaker 1: Excuse me for the Saints during that streak thirty four
Speaker 1: thirteen twenties fifty thirty, thirty to ten, forty seven to ten.
Speaker 1: And now the Redskins have to go to the Superdome.
Speaker 1: Lookout what the Saints did last week and then what
Speaker 1: the Panthers did their best on Monday night to kind
Speaker 1: of outshine what New Orleans did one day earlier, is
Speaker 1: the most exciting thing I think in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: love this kind of football because I well, I don't
Speaker 1: I I get it the four yards passing ever, all
Speaker 1: that's nice, But I love watching teams that can run
Speaker 1: the ball in the Saints, Dan, you tweeted about it
Speaker 1: yesterday and everyone saw it against the Bills. The way
Speaker 1: they the way they dominated on the ground was the
Speaker 1: kind of way that when you would play Madden against
Speaker 1: like your brother when you were young and you were
Speaker 1: just better than him, or you were playing some friend,
Speaker 1: or you're getting dominated yourself by someone and they're just
Speaker 1: running over you and it's embarrassing me. That's how this looked.
Speaker 1: Let me go through that drive. I tweeted it out.
Speaker 1: It was the most and West I this is the
Speaker 1: first game I watched based on what you were saying.
Speaker 1: I'm saying this morbidly curious about this game, and it
Speaker 1: lived up to the hype. The most soul crushing drive
Speaker 1: that I saw all year was in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: Saints ten ten plays, ninety four yards all runs, Ingram
Speaker 1: for eleven, Kamara for ten, zac Line for nine, mark
Speaker 1: Ingram for nine, Kamara for fifteen, Kamara for eleven, Kamara
Speaker 1: for eleven, Ingram for five, what's his problem? Kamara for six,
Speaker 1: and then Drew Brees scrambles into the end zone yards
Speaker 1: all runs, and I, like I said on Sunday, I
Speaker 1: don't even think the Bills quit in that game. I
Speaker 1: think they just were punished till there was nothing left
Speaker 1: grounded to chalk. I considered this game unlockable because the
Speaker 1: Saints are too good right now. I don't think the
Speaker 1: Redskins can hang with him. The Saints are going to
Speaker 1: put it on them. They're playing it their return home
Speaker 1: to their home field, advantage, and I think they can
Speaker 1: run on anyone, and I don't think it's a quincience.
Speaker 1: That's the first time last week that their offensive line
Speaker 1: has been all healthy and together in a little while.
Speaker 1: And then they come out with that performance which was
Speaker 1: like it was about as close to the platonic ideal
Speaker 1: of like old school football as you really could possibly get.
Speaker 1: And now they play a Redskins team who aren't playing
Speaker 1: as tough on defense, who made Latavius Murray and Jerick
Speaker 1: McKinnon as a ground game look pretty good, and let's
Speaker 1: just kind of getting what's blocked. So if The'tavius Murray's
Speaker 1: running on you with pretty big holes, I think you're
Speaker 1: in trouble playing this. It's it's fascinating me that Michael
Speaker 1: Promis and Brandon Coleman on this team and and Ted
Speaker 1: Ginn that you kind of forget about these guys in
Speaker 1: some case because of the way this offense is. Every
Speaker 1: other Saints here, these guys would have each been vying
Speaker 1: for a thousand yards. We'd be talking about two thousand
Speaker 1: yard receivers. Versus Kamara and Ingram are about to become
Speaker 1: the first backs if they keep this up to surpass
Speaker 1: four hundred total yards each since the only other duo
Speaker 1: ever Kevin mckinnern Spiner did it. And you're gonna five
Speaker 1: mark the Browns when I knew you were going to
Speaker 1: get that stat in there, and you deserve it. We
Speaker 1: should mention Rob's big deal when it happened back. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Fat Rob is out for the season officially for the Redskins.
Speaker 1: It's been a little I think his loss has been
Speaker 1: a big problem for them because they have not been
Speaker 1: able to replace them, and they really don't have a
Speaker 1: running game. And your boy Kirk Cousins is playing tough.
Speaker 1: I will admit he's playing about an he's playing as
Speaker 1: well in the circumstances. He's playing tough this year. I
Speaker 1: think he's making those and they've had short yardage running
Speaker 1: issues all year long. That's killed them on third and
Speaker 1: one and fourth and one. That is a problem because
Speaker 1: they want to play that tough kind of football and
Speaker 1: they can't do it. Uh. Here's a team West that's
Speaker 1: in a really good spot heading into Week eleven, the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. Now they're playing not too well right
Speaker 1: still played in a month. Yeah, they they've lost three
Speaker 1: out of four. Uh to Pittsburgh, Oakland, and Dallas beating
Speaker 1: Denver the only one in that stretch. But now they're
Speaker 1: coming off of bye to regroup a little bit. We
Speaker 1: all know Andy Reid kicks ass coming off bys, and
Speaker 1: where do they get to go. They get to go
Speaker 1: to the Jersey meadow Lands to face the Giants, who
Speaker 1: look just about as bad as anyone in football right now.
Speaker 1: This is not a lockable game, No it's not. And
Speaker 1: I feel like people are kind of well, if you
Speaker 1: lock the Giants, that would be allowed, that would be ballsy.
Speaker 1: People kind of been on the Chiefs at this point
Speaker 1: that they everybody considered them the best team in the
Speaker 1: league a month ago, and now nobody considers them like
Speaker 1: on the Patriots level or the Steelers level in the
Speaker 1: NFC to meet the right there still And they had
Speaker 1: a close loss to the Raiders. They you know, they
Speaker 1: scared the Steelers a little bit in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: and then that Cowboys beat them, you know, a little comfortably.
Speaker 1: But I still think the Chiefs are right there with anyone.
Speaker 1: They're they're the best scheme team in the league. And
Speaker 1: I think some weeks, some weeks it doesn't you're not
Speaker 1: hitting all your schemed up plays quite as perfectly, and
Speaker 1: then you end up in a game like Dallas where
Speaker 1: their offense really wasn't wasn't that great. But if you
Speaker 1: could pick a defense to play against like the Giants
Speaker 1: are it like it takes communication and discipline to play
Speaker 1: the Chiefs or else they're gonna burn you for big
Speaker 1: plays because they're gonna confuse you. And the Giants are
Speaker 1: the least discipline, most easily confused, worst communicating defense and football.
Speaker 1: This could be a fifty burger. I wish we could
Speaker 1: lock up a fifty burger. It's like terrible matchup for
Speaker 1: the Giants. I mean, I don't know, I don't I
Speaker 1: have my lock is out there and I'm happy with that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with empting once again to lock triple
Speaker 1: off if that, if that is allowed in future weeks,
Speaker 1: that does open up things I would like goodlock finger
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with football. Yeah, you're just not
Speaker 1: really trying to be an agent of chaos. I am
Speaker 1: the Trump administration of this podcast a really really good block.
Speaker 1: That's my Trump not getting better, but not getting better.
Speaker 1: It's actually going in the wrong direction. By the way,
Speaker 1: Ben mcindoon, we don't talk about the Giants too much,
Speaker 1: But now he has the quote brutally honest meeting with
Speaker 1: the Giants six weeks ago. He came out of that
Speaker 1: saying how well it went, And then Dominique Rogers Cremarty
Speaker 1: his quote was more like, al right, well, at least
Speaker 1: he finally did it. It's like, yeah, you're right, it
Speaker 1: should have happened when the when the ugliness began, which
Speaker 1: was a round week two. Did anybody else have a
Speaker 1: bad feeling about this organization not understanding that they need
Speaker 1: to move on from Eli maning to the end of
Speaker 1: the year, that they're so loyal to him and they're
Speaker 1: talking about building statues and can't trade Eli. He will
Speaker 1: say he's been a little better this year, I think
Speaker 1: than last year, which is weird because their records because
Speaker 1: he was terrible last year. Well, they'll have a top
Speaker 1: five pick, and a lot can happened with the quarterback
Speaker 1: position in the draft between now and then if they
Speaker 1: if they go, if they overlook the position when there's
Speaker 1: someone sitting there for them, then I'd be very I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, there was also a report out there
Speaker 1: that they are if they're not at the top of
Speaker 1: the draft that they would be very anxious to trade
Speaker 1: up into. So I think something could be cooking. I really,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any chance he gets benched because
Speaker 1: of the consecutive game streaking, what he means the franchise.
Speaker 1: Why would you bench him for Gino? As much as
Speaker 1: I like, you know, what's the point? Well, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: the other kid there too, But I I I kind
Speaker 1: of think it's a coin flip that he's playing his
Speaker 1: final games as a Giant. I think it could be
Speaker 1: over for him, which would probably for all parties. Let's
Speaker 1: face it, Uh, let's move on the Buffalo Bills. Speaking
Speaker 1: of a team that can't figure out it's a quarterback situation,
Speaker 1: they bench Tyrod Taylor on Wednesday morning. Uh, Sean McDermott
Speaker 1: announces for fifth round pick Nate Peterman and um, I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people in the football cogniscent my
Speaker 1: off included through a tweet out there like what the
Speaker 1: hell is going on? And I was surprised by my mention.
Speaker 1: They started getting pelt pelted by the Bills mafia, by
Speaker 1: people saying you have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: The problem of the national media, the same brainwashed folks
Speaker 1: that were defending every move Doug Whaley made for four years.
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor is just I don't know if it's a
Speaker 1: vocal minority, but Tyrod Taylor is not a popular guy,
Speaker 1: at least in my Twitter feed. He's out there, out
Speaker 1: of there. Nate Peterman's in to face the Chargers. Gregg
Speaker 1: one of the best pass rushes in the league. By
Speaker 1: the way, the Bills are technically right now the sixth
Speaker 1: and final playoff spot. That's why I hate this move.
Speaker 1: If they were three and six, whatever, this is the
Speaker 1: guy you drafted. You like him, even though it's not
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor's fault on offense. Fine, he's not your future.
Speaker 1: I get it. A playoff appearance would be absolutely special
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo region. Clinching that game that gets you
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. It's been seventeen years and Tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 1: I just can't believe the fact that Nathan Peterman gives
Speaker 1: you a better chance to make the playoffs than Tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 1: I just don't believe it. He's a mid level starting
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback. Peterman is I just can't believe it. Is
Speaker 1: it that like the Titanic level of thrashing they took
Speaker 1: by New Orleans. That made this decision happen. Sooner they broke,
Speaker 1: they broke their spirit. I feel like that game, it was,
Speaker 1: it was, it was, you know. Sean McDermott at one
Speaker 1: point looked at a sort of a Coach of the
Speaker 1: Year candidate and Sean Payton said, I'm the better Sean.
Speaker 1: In fact, you may even be the third best Sean.
Speaker 1: Coaches Sean McDermott. It was a Sean off, Sean off,
Speaker 1: and it went poorly from Buffalo. That was pronounced it
Speaker 1: Sean Sean. Another reason why that Saints Rams used the
Speaker 1: pronouns sean. We don't like pronouns around here. How do
Speaker 1: you guys pronounced Sean Sean Sean Sean Sean. It's like
Speaker 1: John the same to me, happening here? Sean Sean Sean
Speaker 1: post He's like, please move on. I mean, it's another
Speaker 1: reason why Ram Saints should have been flexed. That's the
Speaker 1: ultimate Shan off. So Tyrod Taylor, since he took over
Speaker 1: as a starting quarterback and Greg Roman's offense two thousand fifteen,
Speaker 1: he had an m c L injury and I believe
Speaker 1: October and they let it leak to rap sheet, the
Speaker 1: e J Manual could take the job the next year,
Speaker 1: touchdowns in six interceptions, the same exact pace that he's
Speaker 1: on this year. The next year with a different offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: they actually do bench Tyrod Taylor. Then he hits the market, well,
Speaker 1: he doesn't hit the market, but he sees what the
Speaker 1: market's gonna be and re signs in Buffalo because he
Speaker 1: knows nobody wants to sign him. And now a different
Speaker 1: coaching staff has benched him again, no matter whether you
Speaker 1: think that he's outplayed what the town surrounding him is.
Speaker 1: And I do think that they have a better record
Speaker 1: in his tenure than they have a right to. Every
Speaker 1: coaching staff that's worked at him has found him wanting,
Speaker 1: and it's because he's He doesn't exhaust plays. He gets
Speaker 1: sacked more than any quarterback in the league. And while
Speaker 1: his receivers are running routes and while his coaches are
Speaker 1: drawing up plays that they want the quarterback to see through,
Speaker 1: he's leaving the pocket and not seeing the play through.
Speaker 1: And I know how coaches think. Run the play I called,
Speaker 1: don't leave the pocket. So I think that's why he's benched.
Speaker 1: But does it mean Nathan Peterman is going to give
Speaker 1: them better chance to win. I don't think there's any
Speaker 1: chance of that. Here's the bad news for us Mark.
Speaker 1: By the way, the Bills are now a major player
Speaker 1: for a quarterback in April, and they have like the Browns.
Speaker 1: But the Bills are pretty loaded with draft picks as well,
Speaker 1: and that is not what you want if you're a
Speaker 1: team like the Browns, like the Jets, draft to the
Speaker 1: to have to have another team enter the fray, and
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. I think the maybe the logic
Speaker 1: here is they decided Tyrod Taylor he's just not our guy.
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at Peterman because we like what
Speaker 1: we've seen. Let's give him some starts and then at
Speaker 1: least get you have a look at him in live
Speaker 1: action before you make your big decision whether or not
Speaker 1: to go all in for a quarterback in April. But
Speaker 1: they're supposed to there on pace to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: The way thing is, if you go back and look
Speaker 1: at what Brandon Bean said about Peterman in the summer,
Speaker 1: this is not just boil up now. They some people
Speaker 1: thought he might start Week one. People close to this,
Speaker 1: they gushed over him. So I West, I think you're
Speaker 1: You're absolutely point on With Tyrod Taylor. He's not been supported,
Speaker 1: but he's also someone that inside the building, he's not
Speaker 1: waiting over multiple coaching. He also makes really special plays
Speaker 1: and wins games with Nick or Leary and Deannte Thompson,
Speaker 1: and that's what got us excited. We should mention before
Speaker 1: we move on, Philip Rivers is in the concussion protocol.
Speaker 1: As we tape this, we don't even know if he's starting.
Speaker 1: This would be the first start in his career that
Speaker 1: he ever misses, and if he didn't play, it'd be
Speaker 1: I think it sound Anthony Lynn again said the expects
Speaker 1: from to play, So the second time, it's very likely
Speaker 1: he's playing, which is good because they should win this game,
Speaker 1: and Ingram and Bosa are just playing so well together.
Speaker 1: I'm not counting this Chargers team out. This ABFC is
Speaker 1: so maybe that number six seed in the FC could
Speaker 1: not be more It open, right, There's no way you
Speaker 1: need ten wins, not nine might be plenty. I think
Speaker 1: the two best teams going for that spot, or the
Speaker 1: Ravens and Chargers. How about the idea, since we're bringing
Speaker 1: up the fact that the fact that whoever is the
Speaker 1: sixth seed, and maybe one of these teams gets hot
Speaker 1: and they become a formidable foe in the playoffs. Even
Speaker 1: if you get the three seed, you get like a
Speaker 1: sneaky half of bye. If you get a really bad
Speaker 1: six seed, that four or five, Blake will throw away
Speaker 1: the four or five game. I'm not sure the three
Speaker 1: seed is going to be a powerhouse. I would take
Speaker 1: this division winner is also going to get a sneaky
Speaker 1: by because Blake's gonna hand it to him. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be a quadruple by. Might take the sixth seed and
Speaker 1: fly them up of the Bermuna triangle. We don't. You're
Speaker 1: assuming a lot in that Blake is just a little bit.
Speaker 1: They have to win the division and they have to
Speaker 1: have a worst record than the Steelers are Patriot. A
Speaker 1: lot of assumptions being made there not not a lot
Speaker 1: of good ones. Let's move on. The Cincinnati ben Gals
Speaker 1: are three and six after back to back losses. Basically
Speaker 1: forked them right there. No, this is a fork on
Speaker 1: Forksner four go fork. So let's be quick here. Of
Speaker 1: brock Osweiler is again playing, but at least Paxton Lynch
Speaker 1: is now the backup at this point. The only positive
Speaker 1: takeaway for the Broncos of the season I would think
Speaker 1: now is a von Miller doesn't suffer a bad injury
Speaker 1: or something like that. They don't have any serious injuries,
Speaker 1: and b Paxston Lynch shows them something when he finally
Speaker 1: gets in. It feels like we're heading in that direction now,
Speaker 1: and what does that mean for Trevor Simeon. I feel
Speaker 1: like this is the first real pain point for John Elway,
Speaker 1: who you know deservedly gets a ton of credit for
Speaker 1: what he's done, and he really he's the reason they
Speaker 1: got Peyton Manning in the first place. It was because
Speaker 1: John Elway's John Elway. But now you're in a conundrum
Speaker 1: at this position where you've drafted Paxiston Lynch. We have
Speaker 1: no proof from what we've seen in scant snaps of
Speaker 1: his that he's the answer on any level. Trevor Simeons
Speaker 1: crashed and burned at this point his third string, and
Speaker 1: your other option is brock Osweiler. You either have to
Speaker 1: figure out the quarterback situation again in the off season,
Speaker 1: or you need to see enough from Paxiston Lynch to
Speaker 1: take a risk on him going into next year. It's
Speaker 1: weird position for the Broncos. Really surprised Simeon is not
Speaker 1: back in. Is he hurt? No? I think they're done
Speaker 1: with Lynch is probably the backup brock Osweiler's performance last week,
Speaker 1: and thought, no, they were encouraged he played Okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I I was, But this is the
Speaker 1: team that brought him in and gave him the starts
Speaker 1: to begin with. So you gave up on Simeon. That's
Speaker 1: not nothing they've done. Sense to me. First of all,
Speaker 1: you already know what brock Osweiler is. So so this
Speaker 1: is a waste of time, this three game stretch or
Speaker 1: however long, it's going to take all reports out of
Speaker 1: Denver all off season into the summer where the packing
Speaker 1: Lynch never came close to putting heat on Trevor Simeons.
Speaker 1: So why has he, all of a sudden, after being
Speaker 1: injured for two months, being put above him in the rotation.
Speaker 1: I don't get that at all. There's no reason whatsoever
Speaker 1: to believe that you're gonna put in Paxton Lynch and
Speaker 1: be pleasantly surprised by what he's doing on the field.
Speaker 1: Who who would have thought this before the season, This
Speaker 1: would have been a dead game in Week eleven that
Speaker 1: that Bengals bronze would have nothing going into that. And
Speaker 1: it took a little while, but I think you now
Speaker 1: look and the Rams have the number one defense in
Speaker 1: the league according to Football Outsiders. I think you now
Speaker 1: have this that you can say that they miss Wade
Speaker 1: Phillips a little bit on defense for Denver. It's taken
Speaker 1: a little while for me to really buy in that
Speaker 1: they've fallen off. But they've fallen off. I assume Van's
Speaker 1: Joseph's okay. Yeah, there's usually a one and done guy
Speaker 1: in the mix, Marvin Lewis, though I don't know about
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis, and he spent half his week at seemingly
Speaker 1: burying John Ross is like the worst draft pick ever.
Speaker 1: That disappointing him and all of this stuff. Why are
Speaker 1: Bengals fans so upset by that? John Ross was a
Speaker 1: guy who came into camp after missing the entire off season,
Speaker 1: didn't know where he's supposed to line up on the field,
Speaker 1: didn't know what he's supposed to do, and now he
Speaker 1: misses most of the season, still doesn't know where he's
Speaker 1: supposed to be and we're supposed to and I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to be upset that Marvin Lewis called him out for
Speaker 1: that he doesn't know what, he doesn't know what his
Speaker 1: job talked about him giving up on routes. Lest Marvin
Speaker 1: Lewis is allowed to call out his players for not
Speaker 1: knowing what they're doing on the field. Fair, very fair,
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Oh yeah, it's time to
Speaker 1: head to Santa Rosala, Mexico. Decca the New England Patriots
Speaker 1: uh and the Oakland Raiders squaring off. The Pats Mexico's team,
Speaker 1: according to Derek Carr, who's always been right about everything, Mexico.
Speaker 1: And we have listeners in Mexico. That's been confirmed, breaking news,
Speaker 1: huge listenership in Mexico to our South, Open arms South.
Speaker 1: James Palmer, what am I supposed to say? I like
Speaker 1: you like just found that out there. James Palmer has
Speaker 1: tweeted an hour ago he is covering this game in
Speaker 1: Mexico and says that Raiders fans are swarming in full
Speaker 1: force at customs to cross the border. Guys come down
Speaker 1: there there. This is this time, got a lot of
Speaker 1: time anyway. Patriots seven and two, obviously they've blown away
Speaker 1: the AFC East once again, and the Raiders coming off
Speaker 1: of bye, this is it, West, this is the most
Speaker 1: important game of their season. You want us to take
Speaker 1: you seriously as a team that that not only can
Speaker 1: get that playoff spot, but also we have a little
Speaker 1: hope to conjure up some of the spirits of two
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen. Go win a game. And I don't
Speaker 1: think that's I don't think that's uh. You're not asking
Speaker 1: too much. If we're gonna take this team seriously, they
Speaker 1: have to win, and it's because their secondary is a conflagration.
Speaker 1: They are they are one of the worst secondaries. Let's
Speaker 1: get to have West back of the big words. And
Speaker 1: you see they put Gary Conley, their first round pick
Speaker 1: on i R this week. And you look around the
Speaker 1: league and you see teams like the Saints, what they're
Speaker 1: getting out of Marcus Lattimore, what the Bills are getting
Speaker 1: out Tredavious White, and the Raiders have gotten nothing out
Speaker 1: of their first round. Cornerback Sean Smith is slow, David
Speaker 1: Amerson has been burnt all season long. And I think
Speaker 1: the Patriots continue to roll against this Raiders defense. It
Speaker 1: can't stop anyone through the air. This is becoming a
Speaker 1: tired stat because it started to be tracked about three
Speaker 1: weeks ago. But they are the only team in NFL
Speaker 1: history to enter this late stage of the season without
Speaker 1: an interception on defense. That exactly that you get. You get. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is bad, but that means there's no game in
Speaker 1: NFL history like less likely to have an interception on
Speaker 1: the Patriots side than this Tom Brady, who's thrown we
Speaker 1: two in the last twentysothing games, and that's why the
Speaker 1: games aren't played on paper. Greg seven picks for Brady
Speaker 1: market down Erica sam Posey. Wow, that's a sessler. I
Speaker 1: don't see her writing anything. I think she's completely disregarded
Speaker 1: your point. Yeah, I guess I kind of like the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Loot of the Raiders are kind of like my af
Speaker 1: C West team. That makes me happy a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I like the fans. I feel
Speaker 1: bad for him maybe, but do I feel confident that
Speaker 1: anyone's gonna stop Tom Brady? Because Brady just looks to
Speaker 1: be just to it looked last year and probably the
Speaker 1: last seven years before that, but especially right now. He
Speaker 1: seems unconscious, like the game is in slow motion to
Speaker 1: him right now, and he sees things in a way
Speaker 1: that other people just don't see the game. So to
Speaker 1: to imagine that the Raiders are gonna scheme to stop
Speaker 1: Brady No, so they're gonna need to score a lot
Speaker 1: of points. Need this and it could be a double
Speaker 1: forty burger, I don't I don't think it's It wouldn't
Speaker 1: shock me if this game is forty eight. This is
Speaker 1: the best offense in the league against the worst defense,
Speaker 1: according to Football Outsiders, and it's pretty closely flipped the
Speaker 1: other way. I would say the worst pass rush, one
Speaker 1: of the worst pass rushes against what should be a
Speaker 1: really good offensive line. They've been a little up and down,
Speaker 1: but overall they've protected Derek Carr well. So this should
Speaker 1: be a game where Car has some time and can
Speaker 1: pick apart the Patriots defense and that they can go
Speaker 1: up and down the field at least a little bit.
Speaker 1: We'll keep up with it. We just did this last
Speaker 1: week with the Broncos, where it was, you know different,
Speaker 1: New England's gonna crumble for a reason that Raiders have
Speaker 1: these metrics. A lot of these New England defensive metrics,
Speaker 1: aren't They still anchored and tied to the really rough
Speaker 1: start A little bit, but you give up a lot
Speaker 1: of the last three weeks, they've given up fewer points
Speaker 1: total than they did in Week one to the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I mean they they're averaging about thirteen and a half
Speaker 1: points per game allowed right now. They've rounded into shape.
Speaker 1: The issue early on if you listen to what those
Speaker 1: players are saying was communication issues in the secondary. They've
Speaker 1: cleaned that up. This defense is not a big issue,
Speaker 1: right Patriots, Greg by the way, to think that they
Speaker 1: are in danger of forty burger where that that team
Speaker 1: has been kind of that's fair. I guess I haven't
Speaker 1: there's this explosive Raiders offense. I haven't seen it all year.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know why the Patriots should be
Speaker 1: scared of the Raiders offense. Oh, is this gonna be
Speaker 1: another blowout? I think it's much more ripe for a blowout.
Speaker 1: This is just me than a forties. This is not
Speaker 1: a game, and this is usually when it comes back
Speaker 1: to hany. This is not a game. As a Patriots fan,
Speaker 1: that worries me because I would just be so stunned
Speaker 1: if the Patriots didn't put up thirty five plus forty
Speaker 1: points and then they figure out a way to win.
Speaker 1: I think right now Dion Lewis the way he's running
Speaker 1: between the tackles, and the way Rex Burkehead is coming
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, and James way. I think Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick has kind of found his perfect backfield. He's been
Speaker 1: building up to this for a while. Like their biggest
Speaker 1: advantage every week is running backs matched up against linebackers
Speaker 1: and safeties and this trio and whenever they want to
Speaker 1: have gilllessly active, that's kind of like his nirvana of
Speaker 1: a running game. And it's taking them a little bit
Speaker 1: to figure out this offense, but now it's really I
Speaker 1: totally agree with double birds to the fantasy community absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think you come out of this game because there
Speaker 1: have been some whispers at some low points this season
Speaker 1: for the Raiders that there is some ownership discontent from
Speaker 1: the head coach and other areas here that I think
Speaker 1: you come out of this and this goes poorly for
Speaker 1: for the Raiders. There's gonna be issues that potentially could
Speaker 1: have off ramification defensive staff, especially who's never figured anything
Speaker 1: out under del Rio. Ken Norton's not had good defenses
Speaker 1: and they get confused, and that's the last thing you
Speaker 1: want playing Brady who's been mixing up paste very well.
Speaker 1: I could see them kind of speeding it up and
Speaker 1: then slowing it down and catching them off guards and
Speaker 1: just the Braiders kind of looking in compets. All right,
Speaker 1: So you have a lot to look forward to this weekend,
Speaker 1: So throwing ais lives on. Moving on. Then Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 1: a team with a better record than the Patriots and
Speaker 1: everybody else in the league eight and one, travel to
Speaker 1: Dallas and they go go at a perfect time, let's
Speaker 1: face it, against the Cowboys. No Zeke Elliott, Tyrone Smith
Speaker 1: still up in the air at left tackle, and we
Speaker 1: saw what happened when you entrusted a man named Chaz
Speaker 1: uh and no Sean Lee, who's really the backbone of
Speaker 1: Dallas's defense. So all this adds up, Greg to the
Speaker 1: Eagles being in a great spot to a salt away
Speaker 1: the division if that was even in a question, and
Speaker 1: also put the Cowboys on life support in the NFC,
Speaker 1: and they would absolutely love to do that, and I do.
Speaker 1: And you know, through no fault to your own, I
Speaker 1: do have a little bit of breaking news. What you
Speaker 1: were just talking about. Hit it temposset, Greg legitimately excited
Speaker 1: right now, NFL media insider. I don't know Jane Slater,
Speaker 1: what do we call her? She? NFL reporter Jane Slater
Speaker 1: reports Tyrn Smith will not be well Byron Bell is starting,
Speaker 1: and uh, that's great news for Brandon Graham and the
Speaker 1: rest of this great Eagles past. Heard that from Cowboys
Speaker 1: sourced whispers, So I think she is a bit of
Speaker 1: an insiders that this is a brutal spot for the Cowboys. Boss.
Speaker 1: Are the Eagles defensive line the best position group in
Speaker 1: the NFL? Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox, Timmy Joern again and
Speaker 1: Vinny Curry and then you throw and Chris Long coming
Speaker 1: off the bench, Alan, I think they're the best position
Speaker 1: group in the end, because what else would be in
Speaker 1: the mix? I guess the Jaguars defensive facts, you know,
Speaker 1: or yeah, quarterbacks in the mix that the Panthers linebackers
Speaker 1: are obviously very good, But no, I would put the
Speaker 1: Eagles front for as the most consistent week to week
Speaker 1: wrecking crew around. You want to talk about are what
Speaker 1: I love? I don't know if the rest of the
Speaker 1: people in the room give a hoot about this, but
Speaker 1: the coach Assistant Coach of the Year award, I think
Speaker 1: number one. Hold on, Greg, hit the brakes. Hit the
Speaker 1: brakes for a minute, please, Rod Mirranelli. Rod Miranelli, year
Speaker 1: after year, can I possibly finish the sentence in this room?
Speaker 1: And I possibly just sentence during this because the car
Speaker 1: is speeding out of control. Hit them, don't pump them.
Speaker 1: Hit them. Rod Miranelli, I think is one of the
Speaker 1: most underrated coaches in the NFL with what he's done
Speaker 1: with this defense. Injuries up and down the place, David
Speaker 1: Irvin to Marcus Lawrence. He has this team every year
Speaker 1: they get counted out in the off season. One time
Speaker 1: I talked to fifty phrases described how bad this defense was.
Speaker 1: He completely put it back in my face. And everyone
Speaker 1: else is but on the flip side, Jim Schwartz for
Speaker 1: the Eagles, I think it's another very strong key the
Speaker 1: date and probably will be a head coach again soon.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think he wants to be a head coach.
Speaker 1: You got it out, I'll tell you it's a chore.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't sure it is an utter chore.
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if it was you or the eighty
Speaker 1: five year old woman that had taken over your body.
Speaker 1: When you call it something now, who but you got
Speaker 1: it out. It is a chore. I will reiterate, it
Speaker 1: is a task. I would be stunned, stunned, stunned if
Speaker 1: the Eagles don't win this game. But okay, I agree
Speaker 1: with all that, and I expect the Eagles to win.
Speaker 1: The offensive line is not special when you're missing Tyrant Smith,
Speaker 1: because then you look like, who who do you have? Really?
Speaker 1: You have Jonathan Cooper who's not really a great left guard.
Speaker 1: You have Lyle Collins who's not played well against the
Speaker 1: past at all at right tackle. So suddenly it's just
Speaker 1: down to two guys in the middle. That's not enough.
Speaker 1: You're missing Sean Lee, and yet I do think you
Speaker 1: still have dek Prescott. You do have the bones of
Speaker 1: a team that could win a game at home if
Speaker 1: they're playing their best. I don't think this is just
Speaker 1: like a walk. I agree with you. I agree with
Speaker 1: you to such an extent. But and let me tell
Speaker 1: you something right now. Yes, because I believe that Dallas
Speaker 1: is not done with the season yet, and I think
Speaker 1: the Eagles are a super Bowl level team that's gonna
Speaker 1: have one or two trip ups. It's gonna come this weekend.
Speaker 1: I am locking it up. WHOA, you're locking up the Cowboys. Yes,
Speaker 1: I am. We got a lock off. Oh. I have
Speaker 1: so much respect for Dak Prescott. I don't think there
Speaker 1: are five quarterbacks in the league. I would take over him. Uh.
Speaker 1: Like you said, Rob Marinelli, I respect for them. They're
Speaker 1: playing at home. For all the talk about the Eagles
Speaker 1: defensive line going against a banged up Cowboys offensive line,
Speaker 1: Viti has to block DeMarcus Lawrence and David Urning too.
Speaker 1: So I've checked my conscience, and my conscience tells me
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to lock up the Eagle. Wait. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I was getting confused because you're making the case for
Speaker 1: the couch. I have to make a case. But I'm
Speaker 1: allowed to lock up your Absolutely, look in the mirror.
Speaker 1: What did you see when you looked in that mirror?
Speaker 1: I saw man in a smoking jacket. That respected is
Speaker 1: pick I think he's also he have some showman ship
Speaker 1: because you've created another lock off, which is great for
Speaker 1: this podcast. If Mark's going to be right here, though,
Speaker 1: like Cole Beasley, it's been slipping under the radar. I
Speaker 1: know we want to move on. This is a great game.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for games. Is the first week of
Speaker 1: the year. I feel like we have like three or
Speaker 1: four great games. They have thrown the ball to Cole
Speaker 1: Beasley forty times this year. He has a yards that
Speaker 1: is the least efficient. Worst connection in the league right
Speaker 1: now is Dak Prescott to Cole Beasley and Dez Bryant's
Speaker 1: connection is around fIF too. It's not it's not a lot.
Speaker 1: So those two guys like that passing game has to
Speaker 1: show that they can carry the team. We'll see And
Speaker 1: of course the Zeke Elliott saga. He's over suspended, unsuspended, suspended, unsuspended, suspended,
Speaker 1: un unsuspended, suspended, and now he has accepted that suspension,
Speaker 1: so you won't see him again until the middle of December,
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, Christmas Eve, so late December. That's technically into
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Could be a big, big return game. So
Speaker 1: that's Sunday Night Football. Finally, Monday Night Football. The Atlanta
Speaker 1: Falcons five and four. Uh, And you know that's why
Speaker 1: I think Dallas has almost no chance. I hated the
Speaker 1: way that the Cowboys looked in that game and everything
Speaker 1: Adrian Claiborne did to the backup left tackle, all that
Speaker 1: they kick, but well they kick, they kick took us?
Speaker 1: What is it? What did you say before? I don't
Speaker 1: give a hoot about something. I don't give a hoot
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys after what they did against the Falcons,
Speaker 1: and now they gotta go to uh Atlanta's gotta go
Speaker 1: to Seattle to face the Seahawks, who one Thursday night
Speaker 1: football got the mini by But you know who's not
Speaker 1: coming back, Mark Richard Sherman achilles tendon tear. And this
Speaker 1: defense is not the same when Sherman's not there. No,
Speaker 1: And for me, it only adds more pressure to the
Speaker 1: quarterback in Russell Wilson, who is being relied on more
Speaker 1: than any other in the entire league. He has accounted
Speaker 1: for nineti point two percent of their offensive touchdowns. Every game,
Speaker 1: it seems, comes down to Russell Wilson having to dig
Speaker 1: them out of a hole. Dan, you and I watched
Speaker 1: this game last week where Seattle knocked out Arizona, and
Speaker 1: he made what I thought was one of the plays
Speaker 1: of the year. But his patent is cycling back his
Speaker 1: figure eight, rushing away from defenders and flinging the ball
Speaker 1: down field to a player that no one else even sees.
Speaker 1: And he does this week after week it works, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if it works ultimately for Seattle. They
Speaker 1: feel to me like a team that's endangered if they
Speaker 1: don't find more balance in their offense and on defense.
Speaker 1: I think a lot to see how the Richard Sherman
Speaker 1: thing plays out. I I do think that, uh, the
Speaker 1: rookie cornerback Shack Griffin has looked good. Yes, he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to stay good because a big part of their
Speaker 1: defense is that Sherman could lock down that side of
Speaker 1: the field, and that's just not gonna happen anymore. He
Speaker 1: got Earl Thomas. Okay, that hamstrings sounds like he well.
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll sounds was expecting he'll play. We don't know.
Speaker 1: It sounds like he'll play. Chancellor confirmed, Kim cham Siler
Speaker 1: is up in the air with a stinger. Dwayne Brown,
Speaker 1: who has solidified their left tackle spot, done nice jobs
Speaker 1: since he was acquired, is a game time decision. So
Speaker 1: you look at the Seahawks, there's a lot going wrong.
Speaker 1: You're right, Russell Wilson is just carrying them. They haven't
Speaker 1: had a great home field advantage, the defense hasn't been
Speaker 1: quite as good, and the Falcons, I think can look
Speaker 1: at what Matt Ryan has done the last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks and feel pretty good about it. Seven touchdowns, two interceptions,
Speaker 1: and both of those interceptions were not his fault. I
Speaker 1: think they got it going. I don't know if last
Speaker 1: week was a turning point game. We'll see you need
Speaker 1: more than one. But it wasn't just Clayborn. They got
Speaker 1: a lot of good defensive efforts from a lot of
Speaker 1: players last week. And on paper, this isn't a tough
Speaker 1: matchup against the Seahawks offense. You should be able to
Speaker 1: get pressure and slow them down. NFL Network insidery And
Speaker 1: says that it doesn't look good for DeVonta Freeman to play,
Speaker 1: But unlike the Seahawks, the Falcons have running back depth.
Speaker 1: Keevin Coleman looked good last week. He's one of the best,
Speaker 1: I guess one B back ups in the NFL. So
Speaker 1: I trust the Falcons running game a lot more. I
Speaker 1: think this is a fascinating game. Do you guys remember
Speaker 1: this game last year? I thought it was one of
Speaker 1: the sneaky games of the year, kind of the game
Speaker 1: that made me think the Falcons are for real. Even
Speaker 1: though they ended up losing, it was a terrific game.
Speaker 1: These were kind of the two favorites of the NFC
Speaker 1: going into the year, and now whoever loses this game,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna feel too good about. I think if
Speaker 1: Atlanta is gonna turn this season around, they gotta go
Speaker 1: win this game, and I think they will. This is
Speaker 1: such an important game for the Falcons. Let's pick this game.
Speaker 1: I like this one. I I think it will be
Speaker 1: the Falcons. And I kind of thought I've never been
Speaker 1: completely sold on the Seahawks this year, and now you
Speaker 1: take out Sherman, it just feels to me they are
Speaker 1: a step below the rest of the class of the NFC.
Speaker 1: I think the Falcons are in that step below group
Speaker 1: as well. But I just feel good about Atlanta this week.
Speaker 1: I have to disagree. I think Seattle is gonna win
Speaker 1: this game. You do, Why do you believe that? Just
Speaker 1: think it's a it's in Seattle. I don't like listen
Speaker 1: with the Falcons. A lot of the way I feel
Speaker 1: about the Falcons is sometimes a little bit too attached
Speaker 1: to last year, and I'm starting to become completely unattached
Speaker 1: to last year. Well. You usually it's like the moment
Speaker 1: you think they're dead, that's when they rise and these
Speaker 1: are two teams that you think. It's so early in
Speaker 1: the season still, even though it doesn't feel that way,
Speaker 1: that they that one of these teams has enough inside
Speaker 1: of them to be better. The Falcons have have not
Speaker 1: shown signs of being the Salons. They were just six
Speaker 1: and four after ten games. Last year would be the
Speaker 1: same exact record as this year. They were seven and
Speaker 1: five after twelve games. I know it's different, but at
Speaker 1: least they I think they have the players and the
Speaker 1: guts on their team to play better Falcons. I had
Speaker 1: already said it earlier. I thought picking the Falcons for
Speaker 1: the same reason. I think there are a lot I
Speaker 1: know that there's a contingent in this room. Dan has
Speaker 1: represented the Falcons are dead side of the spectrum. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're dead by any stretch. I think they're
Speaker 1: way too talented. I respect uh Matt Ryan and Julio
Speaker 1: Jones in a running game too much to write them off.
Speaker 1: I alone have picked Seattle in Seattle, I like this dynamic.
Speaker 1: Picked the Falcons twice. I didn't know up up, Senator,
Speaker 1: you couldn't speak again unless you're making a pick. All right,
Speaker 1: that's it for pumping his arms excited I'm getting a
Speaker 1: haircut right after. Talk about getting your weekend going. That
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Speaker 1: and thank you to everybody. And also we'll have have
Speaker 1: a nice announcement next week when Lindsay Fulton gets to
Speaker 1: town Um. And yeah, next week will be a fun
Speaker 1: week with Thanksgiving week we're gonna have for the first
Speaker 1: time Thanksgiving Night show, so we'll talk about that a
Speaker 1: little bit later. A lot to look forward to, but
Speaker 1: let's go for now. This is Dan hands is signing
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