Speaker 1: What's that.
Speaker 2: It's spooky juky, I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming
Speaker 2: this way. Wait a minute, I.
Speaker 3: Nandas please, hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to
Speaker 3: Ghosted by Rose Hernandez.
Speaker 2: The podcast where I talk to people that I like
Speaker 2: about the paranormal. And once again we have got the
Speaker 2: legendary Queen Peppermint on the show, who I just admire
Speaker 2: so much. She is so gorgeous, she is so smart
Speaker 2: and so entertaining. If you ever have the chance to
Speaker 2: see her perform. She's been on the show before, and
Speaker 2: we got her back. We did record this in October.
Speaker 2: In fact, I am in October right now. You're in
Speaker 2: Christmas time. I'm still in Halloween time right now, which
Speaker 2: reminds me that means that the election has passed. I
Speaker 2: don't know, because I record these so early in advance.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I hope we're having a great time
Speaker 2: in November whatever happens, Oh God. Anyway, I will be
Speaker 2: telling you right now as well about the fact that
Speaker 2: I've got Ghosted Live coming up very soon in Brooklyn,
Speaker 2: New York, Seattle, and Portland. That is all in December,
Speaker 2: and I'm also doing stand up in Seattle when I'm there,
Speaker 2: so please get those tickets. That is at linktree dot
Speaker 2: com slash Raz Hernandez. You can find that link in
Speaker 2: my bio on Instagram at Roz Hernandez. And the Haunted
Speaker 2: Doll of course, my YouTube series where I go ghost hunting.
Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent funded and produced and directed and
Speaker 2: starring me, and I'm very proud of it. I'm very
Speaker 2: proud of it, and I'm so happy that people are
Speaker 2: enjoying it. Please go check that out and support it
Speaker 2: and tell your friends. It's currently, to my knowledge, the
Speaker 2: only queer ghost hunting show of its nature. It's, to
Speaker 2: my knowledge, the only one hosted by a trans lady.
Speaker 2: There was another one called Living for the Dead that
Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to be on. If you haven't heard,
Speaker 2: that show got canceled, and not only that, it is
Speaker 2: no longer available on Hulu, so you can't watch it anywhere.
Speaker 2: But we have the clips and we have the memories
Speaker 2: in our hearts, and you know, there's only so much
Speaker 2: I can do. You know, that show was a huge production,
Speaker 2: with a lot of different entities involved in the show,
Speaker 2: and it was a lovely experience, a learning experience. I
Speaker 2: had a great time, met some great people. I don't
Speaker 2: know the future of it. I would do it again.
Speaker 2: I loved it, but until then, I focus on what
Speaker 2: I can control. And what I can control is, Hey,
Speaker 2: if you want to see me ghost hunt, I'll go
Speaker 2: out and do it. I'll spend my own money that
Speaker 2: I make from being a stand up comedian. And so
Speaker 2: I've just been doing it myself. Why not. That's how
Speaker 2: I decide to live these days. And I hope I
Speaker 2: can inspire you too as well. If you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm just waiting for the phone to ring, well you
Speaker 2: could or just you know, see what you can control.
Speaker 2: Try to figure out something on your own if you
Speaker 2: can in the meantime. And that's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk to Peppermint on with the show.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I am joined by a repeat customer,
Speaker 2: the legendary Peppermint. Hello. Hello, right, you look so fucking godda.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you. I just woke up.
Speaker 2: I have you, like on a big screen right now,
Speaker 2: and I'm staring at you and you're just glowwing.
Speaker 1: Hurry up, dim the lights.
Speaker 2: You're beautiful. The last time you were on this podcast was.
Speaker 2: I looked it up. It was the summer of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, and you were definitely a bitch scared. You
Speaker 2: were scared of a lot of this stuff. You are actually,
Speaker 2: to my knowledge, you're the only guests in the six
Speaker 2: years I've done this podcast that turned down my offer
Speaker 2: to play ghost voices. You you denied my Uh my, gad,
Speaker 2: I have to make history at this point, now, a
Speaker 2: couple of years of past. Do you feel any braver
Speaker 2: when it comes to listening to a ghost speaking?
Speaker 1: Not much has changed in my life. I'll say that.
Speaker 2: Have you encountered any ghosts or anything paranormal of that
Speaker 2: nature since the last time?
Speaker 1: You know? I don't. I don't know for sure that
Speaker 1: I have, but I definitely have energy and heard sounds
Speaker 1: that I'm like, wait a minute, but no, I've not
Speaker 1: seen what I would say if it goes I usually don't.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I said this last time. I don't have
Speaker 1: any recollection of what I said last time we spoke,
Speaker 1: but I know what my instincts are, and my instincts
Speaker 1: are if it seems like it could be a ghost,
Speaker 1: don't investigate. Run.
Speaker 2: But what if the cameras are rolling because that's what
Speaker 2: I get into sometimes, where I'm like, listen, if this
Speaker 2: was just a regular if I heard a creak, I'd
Speaker 2: be out of here. But if the cameras are rolling
Speaker 2: and I can get some content out of it, would
Speaker 2: you investigate?
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, If the cameras are rolling and I'm
Speaker 1: stuck in the room, then then of course I'll be like,
Speaker 1: what is that? You know, I don't think i'd be like,
Speaker 1: let's go find out. Let's walk down into this dungeon
Speaker 1: that says beware, Like, I don't think I would do that,
Speaker 1: but I've certainly I would like look and see. If
Speaker 1: I heard a knock at the door, I would open it.
Speaker 1: It certainly makes me feel better to know that I'm
Speaker 1: not the only person in the room, even if the
Speaker 1: only person is like a camera operator or something like that. Yes,
Speaker 1: I remember I did essayance with Jiggly and Thorgy, and
Speaker 1: that's right. You know, I knew that they were going
Speaker 1: to be making noises and stuff like that, but when
Speaker 1: you're in the moment, it really is convincing and scary
Speaker 1: and you don't know what's what. And they often choose
Speaker 1: places that are like this used to be in a
Speaker 1: sane asylum or like whatever. It's like place that really
Speaker 1: used to be something. You know, there could be ghosts,
Speaker 1: There could be unrested spirits there, you know. So I
Speaker 1: guess if I'm like in like a Duwayne Reid or something,
Speaker 1: I probably won't think it's going to be that scary.
Speaker 1: But if it's like a scary dungeon that used to
Speaker 1: be a jail or something, then you know, I might
Speaker 1: be less inclined to want to investigate.
Speaker 2: When you said, Dwayne Read, you reminded me of this
Speaker 2: thing that I often talk about because I have so
Speaker 2: many bicostal people on this podcast, and we often talk
Speaker 2: about how nobody ever tells me stories from New York.
Speaker 2: Like we all believe that there's ghosts in New York,
Speaker 2: but I never hear of ghost stories in New York.
Speaker 2: Do you ever hear anything of all these places you've
Speaker 2: worked or lived? Uh?
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I think that I know
Speaker 1: the reason why why. I think it's because New York
Speaker 1: is so busy and there's so much noise. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you hear a sound, it could be a ghost. It
Speaker 1: could be the subway, It could be your neighbor, it
Speaker 1: could be somebody you know who's scary but not dead,
Speaker 1: you know, creeping around. It could be a rat, you know.
Speaker 1: I just think that there's so many more living things
Speaker 1: that create noise in and around New York, you know.
Speaker 1: Like for sure, if I'm on a farm somewhere in
Speaker 1: the middle of the country and I hear rumbling, then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna think it's a ghost or like a bunch
Speaker 1: of ghosts. True, legit in my apartment, if it's rumbling,
Speaker 1: it's the right under my building, you know.
Speaker 2: But that's what the ghosts want you to think.
Speaker 1: It's true.
Speaker 2: Think about that next time.
Speaker 1: It could have been ghosts. It could have been ghosts.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been to a psychic?
Speaker 1: I never have. I have a few friends that have.
Speaker 1: I know this is not the same thing, so I
Speaker 1: don't want to insult any psychics. But I do have
Speaker 1: a few friends that have read taro for me, which
Speaker 1: is not the same thing, I know exactly, but I
Speaker 1: guess those are often tools that are used sometimes with mediums. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gone to like a parlor and paid somebody,
Speaker 1: but I do have friends that have read my cards
Speaker 1: and then beyond that, even done like astrological readings and
Speaker 1: things like that, and I think that those are a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. I've not yet been to a psychic.
Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to it at all, you know, but
Speaker 1: I don't like spending money on things that aren't assured
Speaker 1: like that. If it doesn't result in me being able
Speaker 1: to eat it or wear it, then I'm less likely
Speaker 1: to spend money on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's true, because a psychic is a hard
Speaker 2: one when you really think about it. Like sometimes these
Speaker 2: psychics are five hundred bucks or whatever, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of money for something that you're not
Speaker 2: even physically it's not you know, tangible in any way.
Speaker 2: When you get like a tarot reading or astrological reading,
Speaker 2: do you take that kind of thing seriously or how
Speaker 2: do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: I do take it hard, you know. I mean I
Speaker 1: haven't really had the experience for someone who's told me,
Speaker 1: thank goodness, like you have to move away and change
Speaker 1: your name right now and give all your money to
Speaker 1: the nuns or whatever, like you know, it's in the cards.
Speaker 1: So like if somebody told me that, I probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: heed that warning too well. But I do try to
Speaker 1: a lot of times, especially if it's by way of
Speaker 1: like a tarot card reading. It is something that in
Speaker 1: the bigger picture does make sense and you can apply
Speaker 1: to like other parts of your life or things that
Speaker 1: you know aren't maybe so literal. And I guess that's
Speaker 1: you know, even the person doing the reading will say, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the Jack of Wands or whatever. I don't
Speaker 1: even know if that's a card you know, right, or
Speaker 1: like the death card for instance, like they're obviously saying
Speaker 1: they'll even tell you, now, this doesn't mean you're going
Speaker 1: to die, just means if you get the death card,
Speaker 1: it's just an ending of something, right, And so that
Speaker 1: makes it a lot easier to not be so like
Speaker 1: literal about it.
Speaker 2: But I mean every time I've had that happen, I'm like,
Speaker 2: but it could be the ending of my life, right,
Speaker 2: Like what's ending? I need to know? And now I
Speaker 2: have this on my conscience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let's put it this way. If it's
Speaker 1: something like that that's happenstance, that's like going to be
Speaker 1: you know, like if it's health related, then I would
Speaker 1: like to think that there's a way to foresee it, like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's that spot it's turning into something? Let me go
Speaker 1: get it checked out, and so then I'm not going
Speaker 1: to like drop dead because of a spot, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'll check it out. If it is something like, oh,
Speaker 1: you better watch out because the piano is going to
Speaker 1: fall on you, then of course I'll be cautious of
Speaker 1: all pianos, and then I'll probably try to make moves
Speaker 1: that make sense anyway, like if the psychic says you're
Speaker 1: going to get Final destinationed okay, But watching Final Destination,
Speaker 1: which I love, I was like, girl, don't get into
Speaker 1: the suntan machine with the with the cord hanging out
Speaker 1: of the thing, you know, like, do make smart moves?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, every move. If I if I was in
Speaker 2: Final Destination, I every single step by tape.
Speaker 1: I would double check every single thing and make sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like don't get on the roller coaster if
Speaker 1: none of the seat belts work, like you know, if
Speaker 1: you're driving behind a rugs, get away from the truck exactly,
Speaker 1: And I do that anyway, same, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I I love that you brought up Final Destination because
Speaker 2: I genuinely believe that if ghosts are real, then Final
Speaker 2: Destination is real too, Because this is the only reason
Speaker 2: that I am like scared. Scared of ghosts is because
Speaker 2: if you know, people start talking about, oh this ghosts. Okay,
Speaker 2: I personally, with my own eyes saw a like a
Speaker 2: little curried coffee pod get picked up thrown. I saw
Speaker 2: it get thrown a little tiny one. Yes, I saw
Speaker 2: it get thrown at a haunted place. Now, who's to
Speaker 2: say they can't do that with a knife or or something,
Speaker 2: or wrap a chord around me. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying I think that final destination, that kind of
Speaker 2: thing could really happen. If ghosts are real and all
Speaker 2: this stuff is real.
Speaker 1: There's definitely like unexplained stories and stuff that has happened.
Speaker 1: So it is a possibility. You're right, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to deny it.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the new Netflix Unsolved Mysteries.
Speaker 1: I haven't because I loved the original Unsolved Mysteries, but
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it because my ex, who i'm no
Speaker 1: longer talking to, it's his favorite show. So I haven't
Speaker 1: watched the Netflix one. But I do love the original
Speaker 1: and I think it's very very good.
Speaker 2: Well, there's this one on the new series where this woman.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying that it was a ghost they're
Speaker 2: not saying it either. It's unsolved. Uh huh. But this
Speaker 2: woman was terribly murdered and in a way I won't
Speaker 2: give away too much, but it's in a way where
Speaker 2: there would be fingerprints and footprints and whatever and there's nothing, none, nothing, whatsoever.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's when it could be a ghost.
Speaker 2: I think it could be. Now it's like ghost cool people,
Speaker 2: and then people will just be like, what happened to them?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you know what I want to
Speaker 2: ask you about because I was trying to think of
Speaker 2: things to talk to you about that aren't too scary.
Speaker 2: Cut to me, we can talk about scary things.
Speaker 1: I'm just but go ahead, were going.
Speaker 2: I don't want last time I felt like I traumatized
Speaker 2: you because last time I was telling you about this
Speaker 2: mannequin that comes alive in Mexico, La Pascualita, I was
Speaker 2: telling you about ghost voices. You don't want to hear it.
Speaker 2: So I did some research on like a not so
Speaker 2: scary thing but still like a part of this kind
Speaker 2: of thing, which is a story of a past life. Okay,
Speaker 2: do you believe in that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yesish, I don't think it's fake. I don't disbelieve it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm kind of a spiritual person, I would
Speaker 1: like to say, And so I do think that it
Speaker 1: is entirely possible that we are either reincarnated for various reasons.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if the only like I know,
Speaker 1: in terms of ghosts, people say that only people with
Speaker 1: unresolved business come back. I do think that, like it
Speaker 1: is possible for our like spirits or souls to exist
Speaker 1: in another time and place or come back again. And
Speaker 1: I definitely think that when I see like animals, you know,
Speaker 1: I know that might seem strange, but like, and it's
Speaker 1: not unique, We've heard it before, but like the connection
Speaker 1: that people can have with living things, their pets, their animals,
Speaker 1: makes me think that there is like an understanding that's
Speaker 1: unspoken obviously that dogs and cats can't like talk like
Speaker 1: with spoken words, but they do communicate. I think some
Speaker 1: of the same things. And I I don't have any pets,
Speaker 1: but I do see people who do have pets. They're
Speaker 1: like in lockstep with their pets, like as if it
Speaker 1: might as a person. Yeah, and so I do think
Speaker 1: that that's possible totally.
Speaker 2: Anytime I think about that stuff, like I wish I
Speaker 2: knew the rules of it a little bit more, because like,
Speaker 2: do you die and then you instantly go into another body?
Speaker 2: Like do you? I just don't know how it works.
Speaker 2: But I found this story. So I've talked many times
Speaker 2: about there used to be this TV show called Ghost
Speaker 2: Inside My Child and oh no, it was basically this
Speaker 2: which is a child is like, hey, I was so
Speaker 2: and so years ago, and then they look it up
Speaker 2: and it turns out that was a real person. So
Speaker 2: that's spoiler alert what this story is. Okay, So this
Speaker 2: one is the story of a little boy named Ryan Hammond, who,
Speaker 2: according to my calculations, he is now probably about twenty.
Speaker 2: Most of this I found from a YouTube channel called
Speaker 2: that So Strange, and also an NBC News broadcast from
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen where they interviewed him. So, when he was
Speaker 2: about five years old in two thousand and four, he
Speaker 2: would wake up screaming and crying. He was having these
Speaker 2: terrible nightmares. And after about a year of this constantly happening,
Speaker 2: he decided it was time to come out to his
Speaker 2: mother and he said, I believe I was another person.
Speaker 2: So the mother love that. The mother's Cindy, she is
Speaker 2: she was a Baptist, and she did not believe in
Speaker 2: the idea of reincarnation, so she wasn't sure what to
Speaker 2: do about it. She didn't tell the dad. She was
Speaker 2: just like, what do you do with this knowledge? You
Speaker 2: know your five year olds like I used to, And
Speaker 2: she says the kid was saying things that were very
Speaker 2: not childlike, like all these weird details for like a
Speaker 2: five six year old. He was telling the mom that
Speaker 2: he lived and worked in Hollywood fifty years earlier, that
Speaker 2: he had had five marriages, that he had two sisters,
Speaker 2: and he owned many homes, and he would take lavish
Speaker 2: trips to Europe. He says he worked at an agency
Speaker 2: where he would change people's names. But he was like,
Speaker 2: that's all I know is like I worked at this
Speaker 2: place where we would change people's names. Whatever, that'll come back,
Speaker 2: don't worry. He says that he was a dancer on Broadway.
Speaker 2: See now, this is where I would be like, this
Speaker 2: isn't true. He was married to five women. He was
Speaker 2: a straight dancer on Broadway. I mean, listen, it's not impossible.
Speaker 1: But okay.
Speaker 2: He lived on a street with rock in the name.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: He told his mother he loved a drink called true Aid,
Speaker 2: which is an orange soda that was popular mid century.
Speaker 2: He kept wanting to see his other family. He kept
Speaker 2: being like, who are you people? Take me back to
Speaker 2: my other family. He says, his bedroom is way grander
Speaker 2: his other one. And he kept saying like, oh, I
Speaker 2: want to go to my swimming pool. Anyway, Cindy the
Speaker 2: Baptist mom is like, I don't know what to what
Speaker 2: do I do with all this info? So she goes
Speaker 2: to the library. She finds an old Hollywood book and
Speaker 2: he's looking through pictures in this old Hollywood book and
Speaker 2: he sees a man from a may West film and
Speaker 2: he's like, oh my god, that's me. Okay, And unfortunately
Speaker 2: it was just like an extra from a may West movie,
Speaker 2: so it wasn't credited. They weren't. They were like, well,
Speaker 2: we don't know who this is. But they called this
Speaker 2: child psychologist from the University of Virginia named Jim Tucker.
Speaker 2: And this man specializes in this phenomena of past lives.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's interesting to have a real psychologist at
Speaker 2: a university that studies this. And he wrote a book
Speaker 2: called Return to Life all about this sort of a thing. Anyway,
Speaker 2: they go to a film archivist, okay, and they're like,
Speaker 2: who's this guy in this picture? And they with May West.
Speaker 2: It turns out it was a man named Marty Martin,
Speaker 2: which is a great name. It reminds me of Flavor
Speaker 2: Flave or something like that. Marty Martin. And he was
Speaker 2: a former movie extra and he was born in nineteen
Speaker 2: oh three. He dreamed of being a movie star. He
Speaker 2: did some extra work, you know, it didn't really make
Speaker 2: it too much as an actor beyond that, and he
Speaker 2: ultimately opened up a talent.
Speaker 1: Agency where he changed people's names, he.
Speaker 2: Gave them stage names. Ahah. So they find his daughters.
Speaker 2: They reach out to the daughters who are still living,
Speaker 2: which imagine getting a phone call from some lady in
Speaker 2: Oklahoma that's like, hey, you know your father he's passed away. Okay,
Speaker 2: well he's trapped inside of my child right now as
Speaker 2: a spirit.
Speaker 1: It does sound wild. I mean, honestly, I probably did
Speaker 1: that exact same thing, like went to my mother and said,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm an old Broadway Dana, because that's something
Speaker 1: that young queer kids do, you know what I mean? Right?
Speaker 1: Even though ironically the dancer, the older version is like
Speaker 1: some straight guy or married to five different women. That
Speaker 1: just sounds excessive, and definitely that wasn't for love, like
Speaker 1: that marriage was like she was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you were out with who again? I thought you said
Speaker 1: you weren't going to do that anymore. Give me back
Speaker 1: my underwear and get out, like that's probably the conversation
Speaker 1: that ended each of one of those marriages.
Speaker 2: I'm sure. And he was rolling with may West, who
Speaker 2: I like.
Speaker 1: I mean, May West was not trying to hang around
Speaker 1: any straight guys, honestly like that.
Speaker 2: I saw a picture and he was pretty cute. Marty Martin. Okay,
Speaker 2: So after they talked to these Marty Martin's daughters, they
Speaker 2: were able to confirm fifty five of the facts that
Speaker 2: Ryan said were true. They lined him up to the
Speaker 2: point where he claimed that he gave one of the
Speaker 2: daughters a dog and she didn't like it. And the
Speaker 2: daughter was like, that's true. He did give me a
Speaker 2: dog I did not like. He said that he lived
Speaker 2: on a street with rock in the title. Well, he
Speaker 2: lived on Roxbury in Beverly Hills. Nice street. And the
Speaker 2: other crazy thing is like, since this man wasn't really
Speaker 2: like famous or anything, there was no info on the
Speaker 2: Internet on him. Yeah, and somehow this kid was able
Speaker 2: to be like, that's me. I had a swimming pool,
Speaker 2: I lived on a street called Rock, I was married
Speaker 2: five times. I had two sisters. Like all of that
Speaker 2: stuff was true. And he said to the doctor, the
Speaker 2: psychiatrist at one point, He's like, I just want to
Speaker 2: know why God would allow me to die at sixty
Speaker 2: one and then come back as a baby. And they
Speaker 2: were like, wait a minute, Marty Martin lived to be
Speaker 2: fifty nine. Ah, this kid's lying. All this stuff's made up.
Speaker 2: But then doctor Tucker finds the death certificate of Marty
Speaker 2: Martin and there is a discrepancy in there. It was
Speaker 2: listed wrong. It said that he was born in nineteen
Speaker 2: oh five on the death certificate, but really he was
Speaker 2: born in nineteen oh three, which means that he was
Speaker 2: sixty one.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that is wild.
Speaker 2: That's kind of crazy a man that would lie about
Speaker 2: his age. Marty Martin died of a brain hemorrhage. Here's
Speaker 2: my question, what was Marty Martin doing from nineteen sixty
Speaker 2: four to two thousand and nine?
Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that when the boy was born two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine?
Speaker 2: Yes, So where was Marty Martin, Was he in somebody else?
Speaker 2: I just don't understand.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I guess that's that's a
Speaker 1: really good question. I mean, I'm so it's so wild
Speaker 1: to me. I mean really, the bigger question that I
Speaker 1: have is I'm going to hear is the young boy
Speaker 1: still saying what's their name? Ryan or Ryan?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is it still the story? Like? Tell more?
Speaker 2: Jeeha, reach out to Ryan Hammond if you could, please,
Speaker 2: let's find find him on Instagram or something. We'll add
Speaker 2: it to my agenda. Thank you. I got questions we
Speaker 2: need to know. I actually I want to talk to
Speaker 2: this doctor that studies this stuff, because apparently his department
Speaker 2: they've studied over twenty five hundred cases of this sort
Speaker 2: of a thing. It's fascinating.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it is interesting. I do think there's
Speaker 1: a way to like see it to fruition. I mean,
Speaker 1: if this person, if Ryan grows older and insists that
Speaker 1: he's it almost sounds like Marty Martin's complete consciousness is
Speaker 1: now Ryan's. And so does Ryan not have his own identity?
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's the part that's really interesting to me.
Speaker 2: Right, And is this like twenty year old walking around Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: being like, oh, Sam.
Speaker 1: Don't call me Ryan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my name's Marty and Martin. It's very interesting. But
Speaker 2: that's what I'm always so curious about, because you know,
Speaker 2: people go get their past lives read and it's always, oh,
Speaker 2: you used to be an Egyptian pharaoh, you know whatever
Speaker 2: it is, And it's like, how come I don't remember
Speaker 2: any of that? But Marty Martin is here saying everything
Speaker 2: to this kid, I don't know whatever.
Speaker 1: It's wild. I mean, I do believe that that could
Speaker 1: be a thing, you know, I don't disbelieve it, but like,
Speaker 1: if that's true, then Marty has an understanding that he
Speaker 1: has been born into a different body. Obviously he said that,
Speaker 1: and that it's a new world now, and so like
Speaker 1: instead of being like, I'm really a lot, just like
Speaker 1: figure out how to use a cell phone, go get
Speaker 1: a job, pass your test into this twenty year old
Speaker 1: or who eighteen whatever, doesn't flunk out of high school,
Speaker 1: and keep it moving.
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll start like an agency for influencers or something.
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll have like a parallel life, but more Okay, well, anyway,
Speaker 2: there's this other thing. I don't think we did this
Speaker 2: the last time you were on Maybe I started doing
Speaker 2: this after Okay. It's a segment that we do well,
Speaker 2: we do it every episode, but we.
Speaker 1: Don't have to tell me what it is.
Speaker 2: We look at a haunted doll on eBay on eBay, Okay,
Speaker 2: is that something you're you can show me?
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see it.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's time for a segment we call the Dolls
Speaker 2: are Living. Okay. So this is actually kind of similar
Speaker 2: to this Marty Martin story because what people believe is
Speaker 2: that a living human dies and somehow, some way, who knows,
Speaker 2: they end up inside of a doll that is then
Speaker 2: sold on eBay. And as always, if you want to
Speaker 2: see a photo of this haunted doll, you just go
Speaker 2: to the Instagram for this podcast, which is ghosted by RAS,
Speaker 2: and you will find it under the tab that says dolls. Also,
Speaker 2: there's another tab on there that says ep stuff. I
Speaker 2: believe episodes stuff are stuff something like that. There's not
Speaker 2: many of them. It's the other one that's usually where
Speaker 2: you will find the videos that we talk about or
Speaker 2: pictures that we talk about. You can find that all there.
Speaker 2: It just lives there for forever, so no matter when
Speaker 2: you're listening, you can find it there. Okay, this is
Speaker 2: a doll for fifty five dollars named Archer Gea. Can
Speaker 2: you show us that doll? You got it? Roz? There
Speaker 2: she is.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I thought you were pointing to Liberachi.
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute, Oh no, no, that's
Speaker 2: my Liberachi doll here on the screen. Can you see
Speaker 2: Archer on this sea?
Speaker 1: Archer? Yeah? Yeah, yeah you.
Speaker 2: Archer comes with a little biography. It says Archer is
Speaker 2: a vessel of immense negative spiritual energy. Her eyes, dark
Speaker 2: and piercing, evoke a terror that crawls under your skin,
Speaker 2: peering into the deepest recesses of your soul, and often
Speaker 2: leaving you breathless. Do you believe it this so far?
Speaker 1: I mean I can see by the picture that she's
Speaker 1: like looking that that's the look like, you know, I
Speaker 1: can see that.
Speaker 2: What is she wearing? Hang on a second, can you go?
Speaker 1: She looks kind of modern.
Speaker 2: She looks like I can't tell what this outfit is
Speaker 2: me neither. Okay, so can you describe her for the listeners?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a brunette, chubby face doll with very
Speaker 1: cute cheeks and tiny powdy lips, huge brown eyes and
Speaker 1: wearing a what looks like a Dutch traditional outfit with
Speaker 1: a yellow dress and a white blouse and a blue
Speaker 1: vest and what would be a matching hat. But it
Speaker 1: looks like the hat and the clothing are from two
Speaker 1: different washed in two different situations. I don't know. It
Speaker 1: doesn't look like they're not matching. Yes, she was, She
Speaker 1: didn't match. This is not a whole outfit.
Speaker 2: It looks like an out that you would wear at
Speaker 2: like Epcot or something like. I feel like there's like.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like if you are one of the dolls
Speaker 1: in It's a Small World.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's something like that. She also it does not
Speaker 2: appear that she has eyebrows, which you could have a
Speaker 2: lot of fun with that.
Speaker 1: No, there's some like red eyebrows. Oh there is very
Speaker 1: light colored yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: All right, Well it turns out she's real evil. They
Speaker 2: say why. It says, if you choose to engage with
Speaker 2: Archer and seek to uncover her secrets, proceed with the
Speaker 2: utmost caution. Her spiritual energy is extraordinarily powerful and must
Speaker 2: be handled with extreme care. And the person that's selling
Speaker 2: this says, as much as it does saden me to
Speaker 2: part with her, I need to downsize my collection. I'm
Speaker 2: getting married next year after finally finding the one after
Speaker 2: years of enduring hardship, and moving to a smaller home,
Speaker 2: so not all the dolls can come with me, especially
Speaker 2: the dark and malevolent spirits. I hope whoever adopts her
Speaker 2: will provide the care she needs. So what I'm taking
Speaker 2: away from this is that the person that's selling this
Speaker 2: doll is engaged and I am single.
Speaker 1: I mean essentially, and that they have a house and
Speaker 1: they're getting a bigger house, and that they have room
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, I do think that's interesting that that's
Speaker 1: the reason why that they're getting rid of the dolls,
Speaker 1: just because they don't have enough space. Not it tried
Speaker 1: to kill me or something like that, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I'm assuming this is a woman that's selling
Speaker 2: this just because I feel like and this woman has
Speaker 2: a husband and a house, and now she's about to
Speaker 2: have fifty five dollars for this doll. I'm jealous, and
Speaker 2: I don't feel bad for you, lady. It also says
Speaker 2: she's stored in my spare room with my other malevolent dolls.
Speaker 2: She has a spare room. I need to get rid
Speaker 2: of them quickly, as they're feeding off of each other
Speaker 2: and their energy is getting stronger. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Well anyway, that was the dolls are living, all right,
Speaker 2: Let's do like one more thing here, Okay, if you'll
Speaker 2: let me, Yes, yes, I'm game. Pet the ghost voices, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's try.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's time for EVP.
Speaker 2: Or ev Plase. Have you ever heard the term EVP? No?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. What does it mean?
Speaker 2: It stands for electronic voice phenomenal Okay. Basically, it's whenever
Speaker 2: somebody captures a ghost speaking, like on a camera or
Speaker 2: recording whatever. You often hear them on ghost hunting TV shows.
Speaker 2: So people post these on YouTube, and every episode, with
Speaker 2: the exception of one, I play two of these and
Speaker 2: I have my guests tell me what they hear, and
Speaker 2: then I'll give you an ABCD, with the correct answer
Speaker 2: being what the person that posted it believes the ghost
Speaker 2: is saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: This first one is from ghosts not on YouTube, and
Speaker 2: it's at this place called Castle Blood in Moness in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Sure it seems like this place is like a Halloween
Speaker 2: haunted attraction, but it's also haunted in real life.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, Anyway, what is this ghost saying? Pepper meant, I
Speaker 2: don't know. We played against.
Speaker 1: It's unintelligible.
Speaker 2: I well, ghost nat believes it is saying something.
Speaker 1: I'm berba bum.
Speaker 2: You know that's not a bad guess. Did ghosts not
Speaker 2: think it was saying a happy birthday? B I'm super scared. Okay,
Speaker 2: see I'm none of them? Or d it's me Marty Martin.
Speaker 1: Ay, I would say, see, I'm none of them.
Speaker 2: That's what they believed, Pep. That was good one for one.
Speaker 2: I'm very proud of you. See, it's not that scary.
Speaker 2: It's not that scary.
Speaker 1: No, we didn't say Marty Martin. Okay, that's the next one.
Speaker 1: I'm Marty Martin. And don't you know who I am?
Speaker 2: Actually? You know the question that the Ghost Center asked,
Speaker 2: They said, are you a man or a woman? And
Speaker 2: this ghost replied, I'm none of them? So they got
Speaker 2: a non binary ghost.
Speaker 1: Non binary? Honey? All right, yes, very very woke. Yes.
Speaker 2: So this next one is same person posted it. It's
Speaker 2: at a place called Whole House in Lancaster. This one
Speaker 2: is kind of similar but kind of creepy. Here we go,
Speaker 2: there's they sound very similar.
Speaker 1: I don't know I definitely can't understand it. Why can't
Speaker 1: they just speak up, get better recording devices or something.
Speaker 2: Well, this is what we got to deal with here.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I don't know. Yeah, tell me.
Speaker 2: Do they think it was A I'm in debt girl?
Speaker 2: Did they think it was B I'm the dead girl?
Speaker 2: C How did that occur? Or D I'm feeling cute.
Speaker 1: I'm the dead girl. That sounds like the most like
Speaker 1: what it would be and what a ghost would say.
Speaker 2: Peppermin.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be like, I'm a dead girl, because
Speaker 1: they don't. They're not trying to pay anything.
Speaker 2: They're dead.
Speaker 1: That's probably why they're dead.
Speaker 2: Peppermint two for two. It was worth the way we
Speaker 2: waited all these years to hear Peppermint react to some
Speaker 2: ghost voices, and you did not disappoint. That was two
Speaker 2: for two. Let's wrap it up here. We'll do one
Speaker 2: more thing just real quick. I'm gonna like fire off
Speaker 2: a couple of different paranormal things, and I'm curious if
Speaker 2: you have any thoughts on them or a story or
Speaker 2: who knows what Bigfoot do you believe?
Speaker 1: I do. I believe in Big is big, but Sasquatch
Speaker 1: is that the same person, same thing. Yeah, I do
Speaker 1: believe in Bigfoot. I believe that there has been a siding.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Bigfoot is like the same living
Speaker 1: being throughout all these years, because it's been so long now,
Speaker 1: But I think that there's somebody there for sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that something is there. Like, I don't think people
Speaker 1: were like hallucinating, right, And I don't think it was
Speaker 1: just like a bear. I think it's entirely possible that
Speaker 1: there's like some kind of living creature animal being. What
Speaker 1: about UFOs, I don't disbelieve it. I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't It would be so strange for me to
Speaker 1: think that the we're the only like life in the universe,
Speaker 1: and the even in just in this solar system. But
Speaker 1: obviously they could come from a different solar system, and
Speaker 1: so like, I do think that it's entirely conceivable that
Speaker 1: the other life is intelligent and or not and has
Speaker 1: traveled or found us. So I think, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: UFOs are real. They could be real.
Speaker 2: Okay, last one, wigi boards.
Speaker 1: I have a hard time with wigi boards. I think
Speaker 1: in general, like historically they may have been like a
Speaker 1: real thing. I don't necessarily believe that if you like
Speaker 1: take a piece of paper, printer paper and write the
Speaker 1: alphabet on it, our spirit's going to just come through
Speaker 1: because then everybody's books and everybody's tablets and everybody's notepads
Speaker 1: would be you know, doing things. And I also know
Speaker 1: I believe that like subliminally, people will who are playing
Speaker 1: the game of Ouigi will like push it. So given
Speaker 1: that most pieces of paper are not haunted, and I
Speaker 1: don't think that they're haunted and that ghosts or that
Speaker 1: people will like give in to the group situation and
Speaker 1: push it around, I think that most Wigi boards are
Speaker 1: not real. I have a hard time believing that like
Speaker 1: Milton Bradley or whoever the company is, the Barker Brothers
Speaker 1: who make the Wigi board game thing like the board
Speaker 1: like you can buy it at like you know, towards
Speaker 1: our us. Yeah, I don't know that that's like the
Speaker 1: real thing. I do think that there might be some
Speaker 1: kind of Wiji boards that have been around for one
Speaker 1: hundred years and they're passed on from the grandmother to
Speaker 1: the great grandmother that maybe it was blessed. I don't know.
Speaker 2: So if I bought you a Wigi board, would you
Speaker 2: use that from like the store today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not think it's real, would I do it?
Speaker 1: Maybe I might participate. I'm not against participating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Peppermint, this has been lovely right.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I passed, you passed.
Speaker 2: You did great, Peppermints. I'm I'm so happy you've done this.
Speaker 2: Could you tell people what you got going on and
Speaker 2: where you want people to find you?
Speaker 1: Well, currently I'm so focused on in addition to being
Speaker 1: an outer work actor and always looking for the next gig,
Speaker 1: I am spending a considerable amount of time focused on,
Speaker 1: you know, the election and our community and things of
Speaker 1: that nature. So that's really going to be taken up
Speaker 1: a lot of my time. And then as if that
Speaker 1: wasn't enough, you know, we're focused as a community on
Speaker 1: we're really as hopefully as a nation on a case
Speaker 1: of particular interest coming out of Tennessee the scrematic case
Speaker 1: that is arguing the right of parents to allow their
Speaker 1: own appropriately aged children whatever to engage in gender froming
Speaker 1: care with the help of their doctors and medical professionals,
Speaker 1: without the government stepping in to limit it, or restrict
Speaker 1: it or block it altogether. And that case is being
Speaker 1: heard in front of the Supreme Court in December, like
Speaker 1: a first week in December most likely, and the result
Speaker 1: of that, in addition to gender firming care being at
Speaker 1: risk for not only people in Tennessee, but we know
Speaker 1: that these Supreme Court cases set precedent, so like, if
Speaker 1: that happens in Tennessee and they blocked gender firming care there,
Speaker 1: it'll be president for other states to basically follow the
Speaker 1: same suit. But in addition to that, the way that
Speaker 1: this case is worded, it vaguely targets trans people, but
Speaker 1: more broadly targets bodily autonomy for anyone who wants to
Speaker 1: make their own medical decisions in their life. And so
Speaker 1: people who are concerned about having bodily autonomy, whether your
Speaker 1: trans or not, should pay attention to this case and
Speaker 1: then spread the word and start talking about it, because
Speaker 1: they say that even though we don't really know that
Speaker 1: much about the Supreme Court and the justices on the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court, they actually do pay attention to public discourse
Speaker 1: and like what people are saying and how they react
Speaker 1: to certain court cases and efforts and things like that.
Speaker 1: So I'll be focused on those two things, of course,
Speaker 1: but people can follow me at Peppermint two four seven
Speaker 1: to see what I'm turning up with all those things.
Speaker 1: And here's some of the messaging that I'm helping support
Speaker 1: around these cases and voting and different things, and really
Speaker 1: the LGBT community and the issues that impact us. That's
Speaker 1: really what I talk about on my platform. And then
Speaker 1: when they if they want some entertainment, they can tune
Speaker 1: in to Netflix to watch season one of Survival of
Speaker 1: the Thickest. We just finished filming season two, and so
Speaker 1: people should pay attention for that. That'll come out next year,
Speaker 1: hopefully at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 2: Phenomenal. Now can you run for president? Please? Now, please, Pepperman,
Speaker 2: just think about it. Think about it for all of us.
Speaker 1: I'll think about it. I'll record it on a message
Speaker 1: and send it to you. I'm not the one.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much to Peppermint. I love all the
Speaker 2: work she does, and I love her political work as well.
Speaker 2: And it is important to pay attention to these cases.
Speaker 2: And you know, body autonomy. I didn't think it was
Speaker 2: going to be something that we'd have to worry about
Speaker 2: in our lifetimes the way that we have, but nonetheless
Speaker 2: we are faced with that, and I think it is
Speaker 2: important for all of us to be paying attention to,
Speaker 2: because if it isn't you right now, it could be
Speaker 2: woooo all right, thank you all so much for listening.
Speaker 2: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 2: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.
Speaker 2: Okay back, this has been an exactly right production. Want
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Speaker 2: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
Speaker 2: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
Speaker 2: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
Speaker 2: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the
Speaker 2: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by
Speaker 2: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon artwork by the spooky
Speaker 2: Vanessa Lilac, photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produce
Speaker 2: used by the chilling Karen Kilgareth, the spookky Georgia Hard Start,
Speaker 2: and the frightening Danielle Kramer