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Speaker 2: It's spooky juky, I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming

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Speaker 2: this way. Wait a minute, I.

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Speaker 3: Nandas please, hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to

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Speaker 3: Ghosted by Rose Hernandez.

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Speaker 2: The podcast where I talk to people that I like

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Speaker 2: about the paranormal. And once again we have got the

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Speaker 2: legendary Queen Peppermint on the show, who I just admire

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Speaker 2: so much. She is so gorgeous, she is so smart

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Speaker 2: and so entertaining. If you ever have the chance to

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Speaker 2: see her perform. She's been on the show before, and

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Speaker 2: we got her back. We did record this in October.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I am in October right now. You're in

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Speaker 2: Christmas time. I'm still in Halloween time right now, which

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Speaker 2: reminds me that means that the election has passed. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, because I record these so early in advance.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I hope we're having a great time

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Speaker 2: in November whatever happens, Oh God. Anyway, I will be

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Speaker 2: telling you right now as well about the fact that

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Speaker 2: I've got Ghosted Live coming up very soon in Brooklyn,

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Speaker 2: New York, Seattle, and Portland. That is all in December,

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Speaker 2: and I'm also doing stand up in Seattle when I'm there,

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Speaker 2: so please get those tickets. That is at linktree dot

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Speaker 2: com slash Raz Hernandez. You can find that link in

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Speaker 2: my bio on Instagram at Roz Hernandez. And the Haunted

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Speaker 2: Doll of course, my YouTube series where I go ghost hunting.

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Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent funded and produced and directed and

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Speaker 2: starring me, and I'm very proud of it. I'm very

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Speaker 2: proud of it, and I'm so happy that people are

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Speaker 2: enjoying it. Please go check that out and support it

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Speaker 2: and tell your friends. It's currently, to my knowledge, the

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Speaker 2: only queer ghost hunting show of its nature. It's, to

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Speaker 2: my knowledge, the only one hosted by a trans lady.

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Speaker 2: There was another one called Living for the Dead that

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Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to be on. If you haven't heard,

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Speaker 2: that show got canceled, and not only that, it is

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Speaker 2: no longer available on Hulu, so you can't watch it anywhere.

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Speaker 2: But we have the clips and we have the memories

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Speaker 2: in our hearts, and you know, there's only so much

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Speaker 2: I can do. You know, that show was a huge production,

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Speaker 2: with a lot of different entities involved in the show,

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Speaker 2: and it was a lovely experience, a learning experience. I

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Speaker 2: had a great time, met some great people. I don't

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Speaker 2: know the future of it. I would do it again.

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Speaker 2: I loved it, but until then, I focus on what

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Speaker 2: I can control. And what I can control is, Hey,

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Speaker 2: if you want to see me ghost hunt, I'll go

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Speaker 2: out and do it. I'll spend my own money that

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Speaker 2: I make from being a stand up comedian. And so

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Speaker 2: I've just been doing it myself. Why not. That's how

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Speaker 2: I decide to live these days. And I hope I

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Speaker 2: can inspire you too as well. If you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm just waiting for the phone to ring, well you

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Speaker 2: could or just you know, see what you can control.

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Speaker 2: Try to figure out something on your own if you

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Speaker 2: can in the meantime. And that's what I'm trying to do.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk to Peppermint on with the show.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. I am joined by a repeat customer,

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Speaker 2: the legendary Peppermint. Hello. Hello, right, you look so fucking godda.

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Speaker 1: Oh thank you. I just woke up.

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Speaker 2: I have you, like on a big screen right now,

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Speaker 2: and I'm staring at you and you're just glowwing.

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Speaker 1: Hurry up, dim the lights.

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Speaker 2: You're beautiful. The last time you were on this podcast was.

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Speaker 2: I looked it up. It was the summer of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one, and you were definitely a bitch scared. You

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Speaker 2: to play ghost voices. You you denied my Uh my, gad,

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Speaker 2: I have to make history at this point, now, a

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Speaker 1: Not much has changed in my life. I'll say that.

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Speaker 2: Have you encountered any ghosts or anything paranormal of that

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Speaker 1: You know? I don't. I don't know for sure that

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Speaker 2: But what if the cameras are rolling because that's what

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, If the cameras are rolling and I'm

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Speaker 2: many bicostal people on this podcast, and we often talk

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Speaker 2: Like we all believe that there's ghosts in New York,

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Speaker 2: but I never hear of ghost stories in New York.

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Speaker 2: But that's what the ghosts want you to think.

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Speaker 1: It could have been ghosts. It could have been ghosts.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been to a psychic?

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Speaker 1: I never have. I have a few friends that have.

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Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to it at all, you know, but

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Speaker 1: I don't like spending money on things that aren't assured

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Speaker 2: When you get like a tarot reading or astrological reading,

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Speaker 1: I do take it hard, you know. I mean I

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Speaker 1: So like if somebody told me that, I probably wouldn't

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Speaker 2: But I mean every time I've had that happen, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: Like what's ending? I need to know? And now I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let's put it this way. If it's

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Speaker 1: that make sense anyway, like if the psychic says you're

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Speaker 1: going to get Final destinationed okay, But watching Final Destination,

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Speaker 1: the suntan machine with the with the cord hanging out

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Speaker 1: of the thing, you know, like, do make smart moves?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, every move. If I if I was in

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Speaker 2: Final Destination, I every single step by tape.

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Speaker 1: I would double check every single thing and make sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, like don't get on the roller coaster if

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Speaker 1: none of the seat belts work, like you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're driving behind a rugs, get away from the truck exactly,

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Speaker 1: And I do that anyway, same, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yesish, I don't think it's fake. I don't disbelieve it.

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Speaker 1: Is it still the story? Like? Tell more?

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it is interesting. I do think there's

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00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: a way to like see it to fruition. I mean,

433
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: if this person, if Ryan grows older and insists that

434
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: he's it almost sounds like Marty Martin's complete consciousness is

435
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: now Ryan's. And so does Ryan not have his own identity?

436
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's the part that's really interesting to me.

437
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: Right, And is this like twenty year old walking around Oklahoma,

438
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: being like, oh, Sam.

439
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: Don't call me Ryan.

440
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:37,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, my name's Marty and Martin. It's very interesting. But

441
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 2: that's what I'm always so curious about, because you know,

442
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: people go get their past lives read and it's always, oh,

443
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: you used to be an Egyptian pharaoh, you know whatever

444
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: it is, And it's like, how come I don't remember

445
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: any of that? But Marty Martin is here saying everything

446
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: to this kid, I don't know whatever.

447
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: It's wild. I mean, I do believe that that could

448
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: be a thing, you know, I don't disbelieve it, but like,

449
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: if that's true, then Marty has an understanding that he

450
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: has been born into a different body. Obviously he said that,

451
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: and that it's a new world now, and so like

452
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: instead of being like, I'm really a lot, just like

453
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: figure out how to use a cell phone, go get

454
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: a job, pass your test into this twenty year old

455
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: or who eighteen whatever, doesn't flunk out of high school,

456
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: and keep it moving.

457
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll start like an agency for influencers or something.

458
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll have like a parallel life, but more Okay, well, anyway,

459
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: there's this other thing. I don't think we did this

460
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 2: the last time you were on Maybe I started doing

461
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: this after Okay. It's a segment that we do well,

462
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 2: we do it every episode, but we.

463
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: Don't have to tell me what it is.

464
00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: We look at a haunted doll on eBay on eBay, Okay,

465
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: is that something you're you can show me?

466
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see it.

467
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: Okay, it's time for a segment we call the Dolls

468
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 2: are Living. Okay. So this is actually kind of similar

469
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: to this Marty Martin story because what people believe is

470
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: that a living human dies and somehow, some way, who knows,

471
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: they end up inside of a doll that is then

472
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: sold on eBay. And as always, if you want to

473
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: see a photo of this haunted doll, you just go

474
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: to the Instagram for this podcast, which is ghosted by RAS,

475
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: and you will find it under the tab that says dolls. Also,

476
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: there's another tab on there that says ep stuff. I

477
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: believe episodes stuff are stuff something like that. There's not

478
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: many of them. It's the other one that's usually where

479
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 2: you will find the videos that we talk about or

480
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: pictures that we talk about. You can find that all there.

481
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: It just lives there for forever, so no matter when

482
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: you're listening, you can find it there. Okay, this is

483
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: a doll for fifty five dollars named Archer Gea. Can

484
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: you show us that doll? You got it? Roz? There

485
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: she is.

486
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I thought you were pointing to Liberachi.

487
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute, Oh no, no, that's

488
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: my Liberachi doll here on the screen. Can you see

489
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: Archer on this sea?

490
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: Archer? Yeah? Yeah, yeah you.

491
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: Archer comes with a little biography. It says Archer is

492
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: a vessel of immense negative spiritual energy. Her eyes, dark

493
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: and piercing, evoke a terror that crawls under your skin,

494
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: peering into the deepest recesses of your soul, and often

495
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: leaving you breathless. Do you believe it this so far?

496
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean I can see by the picture that she's

497
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: like looking that that's the look like, you know, I

498
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: can see that.

499
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: What is she wearing? Hang on a second, can you go?

500
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: She looks kind of modern.

501
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 2: She looks like I can't tell what this outfit is

502
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: me neither. Okay, so can you describe her for the listeners?

503
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a brunette, chubby face doll with very

504
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: cute cheeks and tiny powdy lips, huge brown eyes and

505
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: wearing a what looks like a Dutch traditional outfit with

506
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: a yellow dress and a white blouse and a blue

507
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: vest and what would be a matching hat. But it

508
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: looks like the hat and the clothing are from two

509
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: different washed in two different situations. I don't know. It

510
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: doesn't look like they're not matching. Yes, she was, She

511
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: didn't match. This is not a whole outfit.

512
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: It looks like an out that you would wear at

513
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: like Epcot or something like. I feel like there's like.

514
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like if you are one of the dolls

515
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: in It's a Small World.

516
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: Yes, it's something like that. She also it does not

517
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: appear that she has eyebrows, which you could have a

518
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: lot of fun with that.

519
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: No, there's some like red eyebrows. Oh there is very

520
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: light colored yeah, okay.

521
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: All right, Well it turns out she's real evil. They

522
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: say why. It says, if you choose to engage with

523
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: Archer and seek to uncover her secrets, proceed with the

524
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: utmost caution. Her spiritual energy is extraordinarily powerful and must

525
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: be handled with extreme care. And the person that's selling

526
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: this says, as much as it does saden me to

527
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: part with her, I need to downsize my collection. I'm

528
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: getting married next year after finally finding the one after

529
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: years of enduring hardship, and moving to a smaller home,

530
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: so not all the dolls can come with me, especially

531
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: the dark and malevolent spirits. I hope whoever adopts her

532
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: will provide the care she needs. So what I'm taking

533
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: away from this is that the person that's selling this

534
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: doll is engaged and I am single.

535
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean essentially, and that they have a house and

536
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: they're getting a bigger house, and that they have room

537
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, I do think that's interesting that that's

538
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: the reason why that they're getting rid of the dolls,

539
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: just because they don't have enough space. Not it tried

540
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: to kill me or something like that, you know.

541
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I'm assuming this is a woman that's selling

542
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: this just because I feel like and this woman has

543
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: a husband and a house, and now she's about to

544
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: have fifty five dollars for this doll. I'm jealous, and

545
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: I don't feel bad for you, lady. It also says

546
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: she's stored in my spare room with my other malevolent dolls.

547
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: She has a spare room. I need to get rid

548
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: of them quickly, as they're feeding off of each other

549
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: and their energy is getting stronger. Oh my god.

550
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: Wow.

551
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 2: Well anyway, that was the dolls are living, all right,

552
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: Let's do like one more thing here, Okay, if you'll

553
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: let me, Yes, yes, I'm game. Pet the ghost voices, Okay,

554
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: let's try.

555
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: Okay, it's time for EVP.

556
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: Or ev Plase. Have you ever heard the term EVP? No?

557
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't think so. What does it mean?

558
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: It stands for electronic voice phenomenal Okay. Basically, it's whenever

559
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: somebody captures a ghost speaking, like on a camera or

560
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: recording whatever. You often hear them on ghost hunting TV shows.

561
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: So people post these on YouTube, and every episode, with

562
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 2: the exception of one, I play two of these and

563
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: I have my guests tell me what they hear, and

564
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: then I'll give you an ABCD, with the correct answer

565
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: being what the person that posted it believes the ghost

566
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: is saying.

567
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

568
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: This first one is from ghosts not on YouTube, and

569
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: it's at this place called Castle Blood in Moness in Pennsylvania.

570
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: Sure it seems like this place is like a Halloween

571
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 2: haunted attraction, but it's also haunted in real life.

572
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

573
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Anyway, what is this ghost saying? Pepper meant, I

574
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: don't know. We played against.

575
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: It's unintelligible.

576
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: I well, ghost nat believes it is saying something.

577
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm berba bum.

578
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: You know that's not a bad guess. Did ghosts not

579
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: think it was saying a happy birthday? B I'm super scared. Okay,

580
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: see I'm none of them? Or d it's me Marty Martin.

581
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: Ay, I would say, see, I'm none of them.

582
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 2: That's what they believed, Pep. That was good one for one.

583
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: I'm very proud of you. See, it's not that scary.

584
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: It's not that scary.

585
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: No, we didn't say Marty Martin. Okay, that's the next one.

586
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm Marty Martin. And don't you know who I am?

587
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: Actually? You know the question that the Ghost Center asked,

588
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: They said, are you a man or a woman? And

589
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: this ghost replied, I'm none of them? So they got

590
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: a non binary ghost.

591
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: Non binary? Honey? All right, yes, very very woke. Yes.

592
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: So this next one is same person posted it. It's

593
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: at a place called Whole House in Lancaster. This one

594
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: is kind of similar but kind of creepy. Here we go,

595
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: there's they sound very similar.

596
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't know I definitely can't understand it. Why can't

597
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: they just speak up, get better recording devices or something.

598
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: Well, this is what we got to deal with here.

599
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I don't know. Yeah, tell me.

600
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: Do they think it was A I'm in debt girl?

601
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: Did they think it was B I'm the dead girl?

602
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: C How did that occur? Or D I'm feeling cute.

603
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm the dead girl. That sounds like the most like

604
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: what it would be and what a ghost would say.

605
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: Peppermin.

606
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be like, I'm a dead girl, because

607
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: they don't. They're not trying to pay anything.

608
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: They're dead.

609
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: That's probably why they're dead.

610
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: Peppermint two for two. It was worth the way we

611
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: waited all these years to hear Peppermint react to some

612
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: ghost voices, and you did not disappoint. That was two

613
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: for two. Let's wrap it up here. We'll do one

614
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: more thing just real quick. I'm gonna like fire off

615
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: a couple of different paranormal things, and I'm curious if

616
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: you have any thoughts on them or a story or

617
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: who knows what Bigfoot do you believe?

618
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: I do. I believe in Big is big, but Sasquatch

619
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: is that the same person, same thing. Yeah, I do

620
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: believe in Bigfoot. I believe that there has been a siding.

621
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if Bigfoot is like the same living

622
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: being throughout all these years, because it's been so long now,

623
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: But I think that there's somebody there for sure, yeah,

624
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: and that something is there. Like, I don't think people

625
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: were like hallucinating, right, And I don't think it was

626
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: just like a bear. I think it's entirely possible that

627
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: there's like some kind of living creature animal being. What

628
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: about UFOs, I don't disbelieve it. I think that, you know,

629
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't It would be so strange for me to

630
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: think that the we're the only like life in the universe,

631
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: and the even in just in this solar system. But

632
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: obviously they could come from a different solar system, and

633
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: so like, I do think that it's entirely conceivable that

634
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: the other life is intelligent and or not and has

635
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: traveled or found us. So I think, yeah, I think

636
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: UFOs are real. They could be real.

637
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: Okay, last one, wigi boards.

638
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: I have a hard time with wigi boards. I think

639
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: in general, like historically they may have been like a

640
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: real thing. I don't necessarily believe that if you like

641
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: take a piece of paper, printer paper and write the

642
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: alphabet on it, our spirit's going to just come through

643
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: because then everybody's books and everybody's tablets and everybody's notepads

644
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: would be you know, doing things. And I also know

645
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: I believe that like subliminally, people will who are playing

646
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: the game of Ouigi will like push it. So given

647
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: that most pieces of paper are not haunted, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think that they're haunted and that ghosts or that

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Speaker 1: people will like give in to the group situation and

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Speaker 1: push it around, I think that most Wigi boards are

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Speaker 1: not real. I have a hard time believing that like

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Speaker 1: Milton Bradley or whoever the company is, the Barker Brothers

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Speaker 1: who make the Wigi board game thing like the board

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Speaker 1: like you can buy it at like you know, towards

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Speaker 1: our us. Yeah, I don't know that that's like the

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Speaker 1: real thing. I do think that there might be some

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Speaker 1: kind of Wiji boards that have been around for one

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Speaker 1: hundred years and they're passed on from the grandmother to

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Speaker 1: the great grandmother that maybe it was blessed. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So if I bought you a Wigi board, would you

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Speaker 2: use that from like the store today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not think it's real, would I do it?

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Speaker 1: Maybe I might participate. I'm not against participating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Peppermint, this has been lovely right.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I passed, you passed.

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Speaker 2: You did great, Peppermints. I'm I'm so happy you've done this.

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Speaker 2: Could you tell people what you got going on and

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Speaker 2: where you want people to find you?

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Speaker 1: Well, currently I'm so focused on in addition to being

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Speaker 1: an outer work actor and always looking for the next gig,

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Speaker 1: I am spending a considerable amount of time focused on,

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Speaker 1: you know, the election and our community and things of

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Speaker 1: that nature. So that's really going to be taken up

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Speaker 1: a lot of my time. And then as if that

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Speaker 1: wasn't enough, you know, we're focused as a community on

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Speaker 1: we're really as hopefully as a nation on a case

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Speaker 1: of particular interest coming out of Tennessee the scrematic case

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Speaker 1: that is arguing the right of parents to allow their

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Speaker 1: own appropriately aged children whatever to engage in gender froming

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Speaker 1: care with the help of their doctors and medical professionals,

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Speaker 1: without the government stepping in to limit it, or restrict

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Speaker 1: it or block it altogether. And that case is being

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Speaker 1: heard in front of the Supreme Court in December, like

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Speaker 1: a first week in December most likely, and the result

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Speaker 1: of that, in addition to gender firming care being at

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Speaker 1: risk for not only people in Tennessee, but we know

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Speaker 1: that these Supreme Court cases set precedent, so like, if

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Speaker 1: that happens in Tennessee and they blocked gender firming care there,

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Speaker 1: it'll be president for other states to basically follow the

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Speaker 1: same suit. But in addition to that, the way that

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Speaker 1: this case is worded, it vaguely targets trans people, but

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Speaker 1: more broadly targets bodily autonomy for anyone who wants to

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Speaker 1: make their own medical decisions in their life. And so

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Speaker 1: people who are concerned about having bodily autonomy, whether your

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Speaker 1: trans or not, should pay attention to this case and

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Speaker 1: then spread the word and start talking about it, because

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Speaker 1: they say that even though we don't really know that

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Speaker 1: much about the Supreme Court and the justices on the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court, they actually do pay attention to public discourse

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Speaker 1: and like what people are saying and how they react

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Speaker 1: to certain court cases and efforts and things like that.

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Speaker 1: So I'll be focused on those two things, of course,

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Speaker 1: but people can follow me at Peppermint two four seven

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Speaker 1: to see what I'm turning up with all those things.

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Speaker 1: And here's some of the messaging that I'm helping support

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Speaker 1: around these cases and voting and different things, and really

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Speaker 1: the LGBT community and the issues that impact us. That's

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Speaker 1: really what I talk about on my platform. And then

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Speaker 1: when they if they want some entertainment, they can tune

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Speaker 1: in to Netflix to watch season one of Survival of

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Speaker 1: the Thickest. We just finished filming season two, and so

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Speaker 1: people should pay attention for that. That'll come out next year,

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Speaker 1: hopefully at the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 2: Phenomenal. Now can you run for president? Please? Now, please, Pepperman,

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Speaker 2: just think about it. Think about it for all of us.

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Speaker 1: I'll think about it. I'll record it on a message

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Speaker 1: and send it to you. I'm not the one.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much to Peppermint. I love all the

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Speaker 2: work she does, and I love her political work as well.

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Speaker 2: And it is important to pay attention to these cases.

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Speaker 2: And you know, body autonomy. I didn't think it was

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Speaker 2: going to be something that we'd have to worry about

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Speaker 2: in our lifetimes the way that we have, but nonetheless

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Speaker 2: we are faced with that, and I think it is

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Speaker 2: important for all of us to be paying attention to,

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Speaker 2: because if it isn't you right now, it could be

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Speaker 2: woooo all right, thank you all so much for listening.

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Speaker 2: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

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Speaker 2: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

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Speaker 2: Okay back, this has been an exactly right production. Want

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Speaker 2: to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read

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Speaker 2: stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so

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Speaker 2: email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: You can send a DM or voice message to the

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Speaker 2: show's Instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow

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Speaker 2: while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at

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Speaker 2: roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.

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Speaker 2: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

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Speaker 2: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

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Speaker 2: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

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Speaker 2: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the

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Speaker 2: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by

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Speaker 2: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon artwork by the spooky

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Speaker 2: Vanessa Lilac, photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produce

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Speaker 2: used by the chilling Karen Kilgareth, the spookky Georgia Hard Start,

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Speaker 2: and the frightening Danielle Kramer