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Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl, all about them

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Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a rod in

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Speaker 1: our comic girl sharing for the drama queens Girl Fashion,

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Speaker 1: new episode where we're in the middle of discussing Bethany

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Speaker 1: Sophia Bush hughes because she's right thanks twenty steps ahead

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Speaker 1: Here's another problem. Like my my like insomnia moment therapy

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Speaker 1: the perfect segue into this episode, because ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: In this episode, Brooke Davis has a huge falling out

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Speaker 1: did with how many you hit all the cheerleaders there?

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Speaker 1: forget Joy Haley and Brook also built the website. So

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Speaker 1: not only is this the moment where the idea of

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Speaker 1: It's season three, episode nine, How a Resurrection Really Feels?

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Speaker 1: Air date December seven and five, So the results are

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's for this, all right. Somebody's going to

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Speaker 1: It is angel. Dan Scott is Karen's Pengel, just like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure, Sophie. Have you kissed both of those boys

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00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: on the show? Has Brooke kissed Nathan kissing Chris Keller

426
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: when they hooked up? I don't remember. I don't think

427
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: they ever actually kissing him. I don't think I ever

428
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: had to kiss her. It's funny because in my head

429
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, broke, yeah, Brook cooking up with that

430
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: guy and that guy and guy Brook up with everybody.

431
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: But no, I don't think. I don't think we ever

432
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: actually had to kiss I think we just woke up

433
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: in bed together. Sorry missed out. I think realistic that

434
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: Haley would have I mean, in the middle of that party,

435
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: she was really kissed both Chris Killer Yes, yes, very different,

436
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: both very They're very different kissers, different kissers. But but

437
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is like, in the moment of the

438
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: heightened he swept up like how many people are going

439
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 1: to be in a Batman costume like that, I don't know,

440
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: and he just picked her up, and I could see

441
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: how in the moment she would have been a little

442
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: like and there was all the smoke around because he

443
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: was flapping his wings and you know, we forget the wings.

444
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't know I can go with it. Well, you

445
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: kind of your point. You were like you were like,

446
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: I just wanted to believe it so bad. Yeah. Yeah,

447
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: to your point, I think, how how would there be two?

448
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: And also you go something's off and then you go,

449
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: but maybe not. You can kind of convince yourself given

450
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: the incredible misdirection of two Batman's. But it is also

451
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: very funny because you know, for us, like we know

452
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: these boys so well, we all spent ten years together,

453
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, you, you and James as actors

454
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: did that scene, Like Tyler didn't get in the Batman

455
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: suit and kiss you ever he got the crow never

456
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: had to do work. Yeah, he didn't have to sweat

457
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: in that suit. Poor James was like trying to avoid

458
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: getting heat stroke in the back of trip. Oh my god.

459
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: They were like shoving ice cubes in his Batman's suit.

460
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: Angel boys. Because we all said it, We're like, we

461
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: want to watch this movie. I want a movie, full

462
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: movie road trip movie of those two we got robbed.

463
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: That was a teenage planes, trains and automobiles with James

464
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: and Tyler. Yes, just them starting and stopping that car.

465
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: We were all cackling. It was so perfect. Their chemistry

466
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: as actors and their comedic timing playing off of each other.

467
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: It's Eben Costello, like they're straight and the funny man.

468
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: It's the perfect great We think Chris Keller is winning

469
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: Nathan over. Like Nathan he seems to be when he

470
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 1: hits them all those times in a row when he's like,

471
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: stop kissing my wife, and he's like, I did it

472
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: for you. He got it three to punch in the

473
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: face three times in a row. Stop hitting me, stop kissing.

474
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: So funny, and Tyler is so willing to let Chris

475
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: Keller be the butt of the joke. Like even even

476
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: when they are walking away from crawling out of the

477
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: swamp and James shoves him, Tyler almost goes to the ground.

478
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: He doesn't like take a side step. He he really

479
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: leans into letting Nathan beat up on Chris Keller, and

480
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: it's so winning. That's one of my favorite things about actors.

481
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: If I see an actor who's totally link to just

482
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: make a complete ass out of themselves for the sake

483
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: of the story of the character, it's the best. There's

484
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: just no self awareness, there's no like oh my hair,

485
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: Like don't worry, don't touch my nails, or you know,

486
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: make sure that I don't want to get this shirt

487
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: messy or what. You know, it's just like who cares now,

488
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to look stupid. I don't want my character.

489
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: I don't want people to not like it. Like he

490
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: just throw it all out the window and he just

491
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: goes for it no matter what. It's awesome. I love it.

492
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: How do we think, Like, what's that backstory? You know,

493
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: we never really got Chris keller backstory? Was he a

494
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: nerd at school? Was he Like what create? There's got

495
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: to be some kind of pain or trauma to create

496
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: a person. I for sure feel like Chris Keller got

497
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: dunked in some toilets. Like that was the era of

498
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: that joke. You know this we're talking about certain eras

499
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: like you know, Karen getting attacked for running for mayor

500
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: is a single mom? Like you know, there was like

501
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: we were really coming out of an era where um

502
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: that kind of TV shows Like yeah, there was a

503
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: lot of representation of like physical bullying, a lot of hazing.

504
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: You know, you saw a lot of hazing happening like

505
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: in colleges and things which is so gross and scary

506
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: and and you know you we also we don't we

507
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: don't need to um dig into it too far because

508
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: we don't have to defend bad writing. And y'all know

509
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 1: what we believe in when it comes to our communities

510
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: and equity. But like, there is a wildly inappropriate quote

511
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: joke you know in this episode, Um, both a trans

512
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: character and a character played by a little person were

513
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: made into the butt of a joke in this episode.

514
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: And then three of us just gross like gross, um.

515
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: And you know who was that actor though? That he

516
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: was on Seinfeld that Um, he's so good and he

517
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: was souged and again like so super committed to the material.

518
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: And watching those boys on the river boat which Tyler

519
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: a murder mystery tour on that Oh my god, you

520
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: got that Henrietta. That was the best. It's real. It

521
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: never went ten years. I never got on the Henrietta.

522
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go this fall and it still running. I mean, listen,

523
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: isn't it you guys? The Cape Fear River is a

524
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: mystical experience and sometimes you just have to go buy

525
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: paddle boat. I thought it was going to be way

526
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: more like Huckleberry Finn on there. You know, I was like,

527
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't go get on that river boat and do

528
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: the murder mystery dinner. And so they bring you like

529
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: your like rubber chicken, and you know, like you know

530
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: it's boat food. I don't boat food doesn't have a

531
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: strong reputation. But then like all of a sudden, it's

532
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: like clue is happening around you and like swink, someone's

533
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: dead and you've got to solve the problem and figure

534
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: out who did it. Um. But but meanwhile you're just

535
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: like kind of in a Motel six room because everything's

536
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: like carpeted, kind of weird. It's like the Magic Castle.

537
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: Yes it's been renovated since I went in the old

538
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: era go back. Yes it still needs a renovation. We

539
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: know Sophia Bush can get on Pinterest and renovate it within.

540
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: I would love to. Danny Woodburn is the one who

541
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: was playing Marty on the riverboat. I thought it was

542
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: so fun the idea of That's what I mean about

543
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: this episode being kind of there's so much random stuff,

544
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: but it all really worked and worked well together. The

545
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: road trip of these Boys, which is kind of could

546
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: have been a bottle episode of its own end should

547
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: have been a full length movie. Um, they ended up

548
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: going on this river boat and playing poker on the

549
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: casino in the in the casino area of the boat,

550
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: and then the jumping into the river. And remember there shooting.

551
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: They were alligators in that river. They were shooting, they

552
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 1: were in wet suits, there were stunt guys. They were

553
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: shooting until like six in the morning. But they got

554
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: such great material. I just loved it. I thought it

555
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: was such a fun storyline. I can't believe anyone would

556
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: get into the Cape Fear River voluntarily, like no, thank you. Yeah,

557
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: that's why they didn't ask any of us to do it.

558
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: They were like, let's get the boys. They seem like

559
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: good sports. They'll jump in that river. But they had

560
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: to have like gator wranglers in the water ready to

561
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: intercept anything that came through. Um, that's insane. You couldn't

562
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: have paid me. I want to hand it to our

563
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: our our crew. This is a really good episode to

564
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: kind of brag on our crew because when you think

565
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: about all of the big things they had to do.

566
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: They had to do a huge mayoral like inauguration kind

567
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: of deal, you know, with all the balloons and all

568
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: the people and all the extras. They had to do

569
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: this huge river boat where you're filming out on the

570
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: boat and then you're out on the water and you've

571
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: got to do stunt work the water in the middle

572
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: of the night. You know, they've got Brooks whole fashion show,

573
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: which for for our wardrobe, having to put together something

574
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: like that is always kind of a big task. Um.

575
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: And then we did the split screen thing with Peyton

576
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: that we've never done before and was like very technically

577
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: difficult because you have to lock off the camera and

578
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: then go change so we had to change back and

579
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: forth between Peyton and Angel I think a couple of times.

580
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: It was very confusing. Um, that's a lot the the

581
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: specificity of our crew being able to handle all of

582
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: those things in a what eight day episode? Did we

583
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: shoot in seven or eight days? Eight days? Eight days?

584
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: To do all that is a lot of work. Yeah,

585
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: it really is. I really you did such a nice

586
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: job with that. Hillary. I loved seeing you play both

587
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: parts in the same scene. It wasn't you were great. Honestly,

588
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: it feels like weird, like even talking about those scenes,

589
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: because normally it's like you and another person, but when

590
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: it's you versus you there's ever done that before? What's

591
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: It's hard to wrap your brain around it a little bit,

592
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: um because it either feels like you're picking on yourself

593
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: or you're being self congratulatory. You know. I feel like

594
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: there were like one too many of those scenes we

595
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: could have We could have done without one. We didn't

596
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: have to keep coming back to it. But what I

597
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: will say is that I had made a number of

598
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: complaints about Peyton consistently being this like Debbie Downer and

599
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: like everything said, like, how do you snap a person

600
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: out of that? You called them on their ship? But

601
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: it it didn't really fit to have anybody else called

602
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: Peyton out and be like, oh you said about your mommy.

603
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: You know what you're gonna do? You know? I think

604
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: the only way that it makes sense is to have

605
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: Peyton say it to herself and be like, are we

606
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: going to be a victim forever and ever? Yeah? And

607
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: you know, either you do the cheesy thing of having

608
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: that conversation with yourself in a mirror um and you

609
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: have to like recite a monologue, or you do the

610
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: Mary Kate Nashley Olson split screen um, and you get

611
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: I like this device. I like it I loved you

612
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: know what, I think I loved it because of what

613
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: you're saying there. That we have to do that in life.

614
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: You know, it's not Sometimes you'll have a really good

615
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: friend who's willing to step up to the plate and

616
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: say things to you that are really hard and risk

617
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: the friendship. Um, but most of the time people aren't

618
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: willing to do things like that, and even if they do,

619
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: it's not always. You can't always receive it right away.

620
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: It takes time, and so it's important that we have

621
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: that voice with ourselves, that we're able to face ourselves

622
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: in the mirror and say, hey, snap out of it.

623
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: Stop feeling sorry for yourself. Stop living in this space

624
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: where you are constantly running the record in your head

625
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: of all your failures and all the things that you

626
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: could have done differently. Stop it. We've talked about the

627
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: beginning of this season. Peyton has been really blunt with everybody.

628
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: She was really blunt with Haley where she's like, you

629
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: left and yeah, you came back, and that's why I'm

630
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: being a bit. She was really blunt with Nathan when

631
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: he drove into that wall and was like, you're trying

632
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: to call yourself, you know, She's been really blunt with Brooke,

633
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: just like, go talk to Lucas, why are you being

634
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: a baby about this? And so for her to be

635
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: blunt with herself, um, I think tracks. Yeah, I also

636
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: think there's something to look Peyton is being very blunt

637
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: with a lot of people. Well, she's in a position

638
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: where her pain and what she's going through from the

639
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: outside might make people say, well, she's really strong, but

640
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: she's having a hard time, and there is no I

641
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: think in life, there's often no worse critic than our

642
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: inner critic. And I mean I said this too while

643
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: we were watching Upset. I was like, oh, this is

644
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: making me feel crazy, like having to have a fight

645
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: with my self doubt, Like Peyton is literally living in

646
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: my hell right now. And I think that it's as

647
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: a device. Yes, it's more interesting than watching someone have

648
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: an argument with themselves in the mirror, but it also

649
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: put an experience to something that so many kids deal with,

650
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: that we deal with as adults. But now we're in

651
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: this moment where we're talking more about mental health and

652
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: self care and self doubt and how you know, feelings

653
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: aren't fact. We have terminology. We didn't have that in

654
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, and I think for people to

655
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: see what it really is like when that self doubt

656
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: spiral kicks off and you're listening to something criticize you

657
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: all day, and how hard that can be. I don't know.

658
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: I found it. I know you love to tell a joke, Hill,

659
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: but I found it really powerful in terms of what

660
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: it represented. And I would imagine that it helped people

661
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: talk about what they're inner dialogue sounded like to people

662
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: that they trusted. At least I should hope, I mean,

663
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: I hope that we all have um inner characters. The

664
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: dress and costume, like if you're inner voice, costume the

665
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: right like I feel like that pangel costume is probably

666
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: more me and like bitchy, and I guess I was

667
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: just so much more comfortable in that skin than like

668
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: anything else that I did on this show. That was

669
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: like my comfort zone. If I could just always be

670
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: that awful, oh man, I would have so much fun.

671
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: So this is genius. This is wait. We we really

672
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: should put costumes on our inner our whiny inner child,

673
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: because no, this is so good, because you know what,

674
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: when I could do this, we do this with um,

675
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: you can do this with kids. I did this with Maria,

676
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: we would watch a movie and if something was really

677
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: extra scary, like a monster would come out, and I

678
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: would be like, Maria, he's only making that face because

679
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: he's about to sneeze, and all of a sudden, she would,

680
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, her whole mindset about it would change, and

681
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: then she would be like kind of giggling and think

682
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: something was really funny, you know, or like, oh, he's

683
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: got he can't I don't know, he's got a really

684
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: bad itch in his ear and he can't reach it,

685
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: or he's it is. But can you imagine if if

686
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: on your inner child, the one that's complaining, the one

687
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: that was traumatized, that's causing you all the problems still

688
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: in your adulthood, every time you see that child, it's

689
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: just wearing a big petulant like giant pink bunny costume,

690
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: like a kid at a birthday party who's just been

691
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, had the cakes build on them and they're like, huh,

692
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't want it. It's after four of July, which

693
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: means Halloween stores and those like spirit costume stores are

694
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: right about to open up all across a marathon. We

695
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: need everybody to go by a costume for their inter asshole.

696
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: Can someone explain one thing to me? Though? That has

697
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: bothered me ever since we shot this scene. What And

698
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: I remember asking this question on the day Angel like

699
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: leans in the door frame of the of the closet

700
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: and it's like, closet full of anxiety? Get it? And

701
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: I didn't get it on the day and I asked

702
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: our script supervisor and I asked our director, and I

703
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: asked everybody. I'm like, what does that mean? What does

704
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: you do? And they're like, just say the lines. Hillary,

705
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: I was like, can we change it to something else?

706
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: And they're like, just say the lines. I still don't

707
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: know what it means, isn't it I don't know. I

708
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: don't get over it either. Yeah, because it is the

709
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: point that she is anxiety personified and she's in the closets?

710
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: Are we talking about being in the closet? Are like?

711
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: What are we refer anxiety? Sexuality? Did they not make

712
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: a decision and so they never made the lines like this,

713
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: what is it? I think it's anxiety. I think that's

714
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: what it is. She she is I'm your anxiety and

715
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm standing in the closet and it's in the closet

716
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: because you won't ever let it out, so it's like

717
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: that's a that's a real you gotta dig deep one

718
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: if feelings are in the closet, I don't know if

719
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: someone can make sense of it, cool DM me, I'll

720
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: read it like it has always bothered me because I'm like, oh,

721
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: we were really cooking here and that just took the

722
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: wind out sales so weird. Then there's nothing worse than

723
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: when something pulls you out of a scene and you go,

724
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: what what, because then you're just not present anymore? Would

725
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: you guys ever? Who's sometimes like as an actor, I

726
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: feel like I don't understand this, but clearly like someone

727
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: wrote it and a bunch of other people signed off

728
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: on it, so I'm the odd man out. So if

729
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: I ask, I'm gonna look really dull all the time

730
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, yeah, especially with UM. I feel

731
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: like also with my with my A D D. I'm

732
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: always I can think really, really really intensely about things

733
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: that are very simple, and I hyper focus, so then

734
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: I can't get off of it, like I'm I'm trying

735
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: and sometimes people think I'm just being a bit and

736
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm like no, I'm like my brain is stuck in

737
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: a short circuit loop and like, I can't get off

738
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: of it, and I don't understand what this means. I

739
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: did this with the guys delivering my pods the other

740
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: day and we were trying to like line it up

741
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: in the driveway and he was like, no, we just

742
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: well we can't. We just don't have room. And I'm like,

743
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: but I don't understand why you don't have room because

744
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: I've seen the truck move and it and he's like

745
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: explaining all the mechanisms and I'm like, yeah, but if

746
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: it just can we just put it on? And he's like, man,

747
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: you're making this more complicated than it needs to be. Joy.

748
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: This is like a Snicker's commercial candy bar to just

749
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: checked you and be like you. But I feel that

750
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: way all the time when I read scripts and I

751
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: see things that and I've and I'm the one who

752
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: will be like, I don't understand this. Can somebody explain it?

753
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: As soon as they say it, I'm like, I'm a

754
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: an idiot, Yep, got it, totally, totally could have gotten

755
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: that myself. But if I had just gotten off of this, Joy,

756
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: I've had fifteen years to try to figure out this

757
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: closet full of anxiety and it's still not happening. I

758
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: just I like to ask, because you know, then they're like,

759
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: did you win that our brains are similar? If I

760
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: don't ask the question just to be like, I just

761
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 1: want to clarify something. If I don't ask, I won't

762
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: be able to stop obsessing over it. And then it's

763
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: like I can't pay attention to anything else because I'm like,

764
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: but this, but this, but this, but it's like a

765
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: skipping record. So I don't know. But here, by the way,

766
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: you did ask and you didn't get an answer. They

767
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: didn't have an answer because they didn't think it out

768
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: or they didn't bother to find out, and so they

769
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: told you to basically like you know, there was just

770
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: about like dance monkey. Thing I'll say about the painel

771
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: thing is this was we talked about some nugget jobs

772
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: in this episode. Pangel makes this reference. Was Jake just

773
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: trying to get in your pants? And should Lucas be

774
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: with you instead of Brooke? And that is the first

775
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: inkling that we have that like rh row something. I'm

776
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: still interested because they've been so platonic, deeply platonic. I

777
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: thought we worked really well together platonically and now we've

778
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: got this little tidbit. Yeah. Interesting, well, and it is

779
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: a great little nugget because it does show you how

780
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: far back they were thinking about continuing to to really

781
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: lean into that sea saw that Lucas was going to

782
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: make between Brooke and Peyton, and you know, none of

783
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: it was accidental, like you know, the writers were mining

784
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: for drama. I don't know, maybe by season three they

785
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: were like, well, we've been on for three years, We're

786
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 1: going to do this for a long time. We better

787
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: figured away to keep stirring the pot. But because we

788
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: were in the Lucas and Brooke Letterer thing and and

789
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: and really in Brooks feelings about not knowing if she

790
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: could risk trusting him again, it's easy to let that

791
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: slide by. But when we watch it back, you go,

792
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: oh wow, they were they were laying the pipe early.

793
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: They were let people wanted to keep that conflict going.

794
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: I loved I loved Fens in this episode. Yes, I mean,

795
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: you really showed up. It was so beautiful and so simple,

796
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: and you just you know, one of the things I

797
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: love about you as an actress is you're so good

798
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: at comedy and you're so on top of it, and

799
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're so smart that you're paying attention

800
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: to all the different elements and and um crafting your

801
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: performance towards specifically what is needed in the scene and

802
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: also caring for your character. And you know it's great

803
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: because you have all that stuff going on, but to

804
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: see you just strip all of the stuff away. And

805
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: by stuff, I don't mean that you I don't mean

806
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: to say that you're doing things. What I mean is

807
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: that you're when you're on for comedy, we can count

808
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: on you because you know how to put it all on.

809
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: And to see you so Sophia and Brooke just strip

810
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: it all down and just stand there and not do

811
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: anything and just be in your emotions, it was I'm

812
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: so glad that they wrote an opportunity for Brooke to

813
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: do that, and for you to do that as Brooke.

814
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: That's me making things over complicated, but I hope you

815
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: don't have And I love that because I was, especially

816
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: in the earlier seasons, I was given a lot to juggle,

817
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: to do comedic relief, and it's fun to be a juggler.

818
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: But when you do get to just stand and be exposed,

819
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's particular for brooking this episode, because

820
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: the whole point is that she's putting her defenses down,

821
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: she's really kept the walls up, and and to lay

822
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: it all on the line and say this is how

823
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: I spent my summer, this is how I really feel.

824
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 1: I'm terrified and it's painful for me to be raw

825
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: like this. I I wanted that for her because she

826
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: she was such a character and I think this is

827
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: somewhere where you know, I feel like we're the most similar.

828
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: A person who seems to project that they have it together,

829
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: but who's very anxious, afraid, emotional like things that people

830
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: might not see. And so to be able to have

831
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: people with whom you can really be yourself um is

832
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: so important and it was nice to model, to model that,

833
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: I think in in these moments with a character like this,

834
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: I do want to add, not for nothing, you weren't

835
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: going you weren't going through a breakup with the person

836
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: that you were playing a romance opposite of, and regardless

837
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: of what all those circumstances were, that's incredibly difficult emotionally

838
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: to be able to be vulnerable and be there in

839
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: that moment. There's lots of actors who have who have

840
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: done that, and who have done movies and TV shows

841
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: and things. They date their costar or whatever, it doesn't

842
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: work out. But the fact that you were able to

843
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: just be that raw, open and vulnerable, it's it's a

844
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: real credit to you as an artist. Um that you

845
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,479
Speaker 1: put your art in front of everybody and just were like, look,

846
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: this is it this, I'm just sharing my heart and

847
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: here we are. I thought it was really beautiful. Well

848
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: that's the point for me, you know, And that people

849
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: can call it whatever they want. They can say it's strength,

850
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: they can say it's pride, they can say it's professionalism.

851
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: You can put a positive or a negative skew on it.

852
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: But I was always going to put Brooke Davis ahead

853
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: of everybody and everything else. Nothing mattered to me but

854
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,479
Speaker 1: being honest for her. Yeah. Yeah, I was with someone

855
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: on the show forever and when we broke up, it

856
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: was crickets. No one ever shit about it. No one

857
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I wonder what's going on with Hillary

858
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: on set? Should be crazy because they didn't know him,

859
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, And so the difference between our situations was crazy.

860
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: This thing about making the girls on our show gravel,

861
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: I've seen so much, and then like for Brooke to

862
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: do it, only for Lucas to turn around and be like,

863
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: guess what, I'm not mad at you anymore? Games over,

864
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: I forgive you. Can you handle it? So for for

865
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: him to be like, first of all, so patronizing, for

866
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: a boy to be like, I forgive you for the

867
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: thing you did that I actually have no right to

868
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: be upset about. But then for her to be like,

869
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: you can't, it's too awful. I was like, you know,

870
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: it was very odd that again, that these men in

871
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: their forties wanted teenage girls to like apologize for who

872
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: they were and big men to be with them. I

873
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: was like, I don't like this. I love forgiveness as

874
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: much as the next guy, right, Like, how great is

875
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: to be able to forgive someone for doing something shitty

876
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: to you? It's amazing, it's scandalous, it's powerful, it's beautiful.

877
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: It was totally out of context in this scenario. I

878
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: was like, what are we doing? This is not the place.

879
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 1: This is the kind of tone deaf here, guys. Because

880
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: there were a couple episodes where you know, I even

881
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: said to the fan base and like, yes, I want

882
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: Brooke and Lucas together. I I see this couple. I

883
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: think they have fun with each other. They're teenagers together,

884
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: which is not what most of relationships on our show

885
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: where Yeah, as teenagers, they got to be silly, and

886
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: our show needed a little bit of like silliness and discovery.

887
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: Couldn't all be like marriage and death and like it's

888
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: Psycho Derek, he's coming up. Wait, we have to still

889
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: talk about clothes over bros. And we haven't really spent

890
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: any time on that. We just pour a little energy

891
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: into close over bros. Because this is so exciting to

892
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: see this come alive for the first time using pain

893
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: arn't work, um, which I guess do you guys have

894
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: a fight about licensing fee? Like wait, this is another

895
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: one of those scenes that you know is going to

896
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: blossom in future episode. Okay, I hope love it. I

897
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: loved watching Brooke just get back on that horse and

898
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: not be afraid and not not just you know, implode

899
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: into herself. And it's true. It's actually a theme with

900
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: what we were talking about in last week's episode with

901
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: the play that I wrote that you know it ended

902
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: up it's it's not mine anymore. And it took me

903
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: years before I was able to write again because I

904
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: was like, somebody stole my idea and they're taking it

905
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: away from me, and yeah, and it it was so

906
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: so heartbreaking. But I actually went back and watched the

907
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: video of it, which I haven't seen since it came out,

908
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: and it's like way too long. I was like, oh

909
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: my god, it's forty five minutes in and like we

910
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: haven't had conflict yet, like why is my play so long?

911
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: But you know that's what workshops are four anyway. But

912
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: but the point is, sorry, I'm I'm a d ding

913
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: okay back hollow um Okay. What I'm saying is that, uh,

914
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: it's it really is true that you cannot and Paul

915
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: used to say this to me all the time too.

916
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: People can take your ideas, but they can't take your talent.

917
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: And it's I love seeing that come to life with

918
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: Broke here because it's such an important lesson and for

919
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: anybody out there who you know, feels like you gave

920
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 1: your all to something and then it just got whisked

921
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: away or fell apart or stolen or what didn't work

922
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: or whatever. Nobody can take away your talent. You're always

923
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: going to be able to create more and more and

924
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: more and more, there's an unending supply of ideas and

925
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: to A went out there and I loved seeing Brooke

926
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: go for it in the six hours creating oh oh

927
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: my god, warp speed. But there's there's the there's the

928
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: there's the hyper activity part. When we talk about like

929
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: our A D H D. We're like, that's it, that's

930
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: what it is. You just sit down and sew. But

931
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: I did love too, the sort of mirror Like I

932
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: think back to when Brooke and Payton invented the selfie

933
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: with the polaroid and we fist bumped and we were

934
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: like hose over rose and then and then here it

935
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: is in these women, you know, trying to sort of

936
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: reclaim their identity outside of their relationships. And I love

937
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: that it's this moment in our apartment, in our first

938
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: taste of adulthood, and and it's between Brooke and Hailey

939
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: and it's you know, oh, well, the thing, the thing

940
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: I always used to say, like our girl anthem. Now

941
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: it's about our work. You know. It's close over bros.

942
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: And it's like, no, it's cute. I really. I made

943
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: me so happy. You guys have such a strong dynamic

944
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: together because there's um so quietness to the interactions when

945
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: it's just the two of you, that is really tender. Um.

946
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: And those are the safe spaces where you can come

947
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: up with new ideas. Those are the safe spaces, like

948
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: when Haley is like, of course I will help you,

949
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: I will make your website, Like of course, why would

950
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: you think that I wouldn't? You know? Like, I love

951
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: watching that dynamic because I think for people who are

952
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: struggling with female friendships, you know, like I didn't, I

953
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: think we all have a lot to learn because a

954
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: lot of the female friendships we saw on TV or

955
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: we just like you know, dealt with in high school

956
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: can be kind of toxic. Um. These are the moments

957
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: to emulate where when your friend has an idea and

958
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: you show up, that's like saying I love you with

959
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: the biggest megaphone ever. Yeah, I agree, love that one.

960
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: Guys are kidding our sweatsuits. Listen, If I don't have

961
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: a Danny sweatsuit on this ass by September when my

962
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: kids go to school, I'm gonna make it happen. We're

963
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: working on it. We're working on it. Um. In the meantime,

964
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: let's spin a wheel and find out who's most likely

965
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: to um who is most likely to become a meme?

966
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: Brook Davis? How is there any other? There's like, you

967
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: know what I love when on my phone to send

968
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: my girlfriends like, you know, like a shitty text or something.

969
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: And I'm being a real dick and I just look

970
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: up a word where I'm like, you know, go to

971
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: hell or whatever, and all of a sudden, it's also

972
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: Fia on there. It's all Brooke Davis on there. And

973
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, you can type any word you want to

974
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: in the gift search on your phone, you'll come up. Wait,

975
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: I need to start doing that more. Yeah. Also, do

976
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: you send me yourself to your friends by any chance? Yes?

977
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: Come on, you have to have sun and are a

978
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 1: lot of memes of the three of us, and you're

979
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: very good which character? So we should just start responding

980
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: to each other only in memes of our of ourselves.

981
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: That Yeah, yeah, you went both to search for your

982
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: fact and question. M hmmm, you win. That feels fun.

983
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: I love it. I love a meme, I really do.

984
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: I should gets a close second. I think he's such

985
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: a legendary jan Yeah, is there a you can't kill

986
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: Dan Scott gift? There must But but a couple of

987
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: weeks ago there was there was the one of the

988
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,959
Speaker 1: dogs eating the heart that was circulating because in real

989
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: life somebody was getting a heart off of a helicopter

990
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: and they slipped in the bell and everyone started posting

991
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: the Dan Scott gift. What's a gift? What's a meme?

992
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't know the difference old, but seeing that circulate,

993
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, bro yeah, that poor guy, Like

994
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: imagine being the doctor. It's probably fine. Just how is

995
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: it off? It just fell on the room with a

996
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: quick sailing wash. I don't know what. What's a little gravel?

997
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: Um you guys? I love you? What are we doing

998
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: next week? Love you? What do we see anybody? Ten?

999
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: Brave New World? I don't know about this. Uh, Payton's

1000
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: got a crush on Lucas. Lucas. Are we gonna have

1001
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: to hear Brooks letters? Oh god, I want to watch

1002
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: a one act play like the Vagina Monologues, just of

1003
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: Brooke Davis's letters, summer letters to Lucy so good, okay,

1004
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: good good. I love you guys, to be fun to

1005
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: f and to see you next week. Yes you guys later,

1006
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: My love you. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to

1007
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1008
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1009
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,360
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1010
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,720
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