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Speaker 2: Who hold on, Thank.
Speaker 1: You, linebacker Clay Matthew. There it is.
Speaker 3: You got a Viking's female sweater on.
Speaker 2: It is female because it is my It's mat fiance.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well he's trying to shake your confidence, man.
Speaker 1: And there's a joke Chester made that I only just
Speaker 1: now got.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can I explain it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can explain it.
Speaker 1: This morning when Clay and I were driving down the road,
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews and I were driving down the road and
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews is talking about moving to play with the Packers,
Speaker 1: and he commented that how much people in Wisconsin like
Speaker 1: their deer hunting, and he said they would come to
Speaker 1: the games dressed in hunter's orange. That's your joke, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Yeah, Krinn said where jerseys? And I didn't
Speaker 2: have a jersey, so I put on some blazer of
Speaker 2: orange because that's pretty much the team colors during a
Speaker 2: home game when it's cold.
Speaker 3: That's when you know it's season. It's late November, when
Speaker 3: gun season opens, there's camm and blaze orange and you
Speaker 3: can see that all around those games are.
Speaker 1: This is my sporting jersey. Have to do with wrestling?
Speaker 4: What's when I it's like everybody to know that Steve
Speaker 4: is holding his shirt out in the exact fashion a
Speaker 4: small childhood. Ask me about this. That's the octopus.
Speaker 1: Whell So I got a gaff into a huge octopus. Well,
Speaker 1: I need to share this with you here one up
Speaker 1: in a situation, I got a gaff into a huge
Speaker 1: octopus and he fought me off and got away with
Speaker 1: the gaff. And then later we were laughing about now
Speaker 1: that octopus is running around down there with a gaff.
Speaker 3: So why why would I be in this position in
Speaker 3: the future?
Speaker 1: As if you ever get out, So here's when you
Speaker 1: lose a fight with the octopus. Here's what happens. He
Speaker 1: gets stuck to the whole of the boat and there's
Speaker 1: no amount of nothing is going to get him off
Speaker 1: the hole that boat. Okay, but when you give up
Speaker 1: the fight, he just drops away. So I got this
Speaker 1: gaff in his arm.
Speaker 3: He's huge.
Speaker 1: I have pictures of it. I got a gaff into
Speaker 1: his arm, and we can't drag him on the boat.
Speaker 1: My wife and her friend are not being kind of helpful.
Speaker 1: And eventually he keeps moving down the whole of the
Speaker 1: boat and I can't hold on. It's either I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get dragged into the ocean or I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: let go, and I let go. I told this story
Speaker 1: in the podcast, and the guy rode in with the
Speaker 1: most genius idea in the world. When you get one
Speaker 1: stuck to your boat like that and you can't get
Speaker 1: it in the boat, just reach over there and put
Speaker 1: a hook into it on a rod. Oh, get a
Speaker 1: hook into the meaty part of his arm, and then
Speaker 1: be like, okay, you win. I give up open the bail.
Speaker 1: He's gonna push. Then you get a second chance, fight
Speaker 1: him back up the boat and them again.
Speaker 5: It sounds like your second Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1: No, that is a great tip.
Speaker 5: I didn't see you writing any of those down, will
Speaker 5: I will.
Speaker 3: I will keep that in mind next time i'm gaffing
Speaker 3: off to push ye gaffing gaffing, I'm sorry if you
Speaker 3: haven't don.
Speaker 1: Cuts of your super Bowl ring? Yeah, what year is
Speaker 1: this now?
Speaker 3: This is from twenty ten? We uh damn? Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: nothing now nowadays because every team that wins the super.
Speaker 2: Bowl it's a things massive.
Speaker 3: How can they make it bigger than the year prior?
Speaker 3: So the last couple of years teams have been making
Speaker 3: so that top part can actually and this one doesn't,
Speaker 3: but you can actually take the top off and inside
Speaker 3: they'll have like a replica of the stadium and whatnot.
Speaker 3: So that's, you know, from super Bowl forty twenty ten. So,
Speaker 3: I mean it's an older I would consider an older
Speaker 3: super Bowl ring you compare it to the other ones,
Speaker 3: I mean, they might as well be wearing on two
Speaker 3: knuckles now, it's they're that big.
Speaker 1: Sacks on this game. I didn't can you ever get
Speaker 1: these just done in brass knuckles? Five four rings altogether?
Speaker 3: Tom Brady could yea. Not many others though.
Speaker 1: That's impressive, man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you better pass that thing around.
Speaker 1: Did you wear it out? And about then?
Speaker 3: No, I've never worn it out.
Speaker 1: I feel like a blowharder.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And then every year there's a there's there's a new
Speaker 3: there's a new winner every year, so you can't. And
Speaker 3: I feel like it's a great thing to wear when
Speaker 3: you go back to you know, if I if I
Speaker 3: go back to Green Bay for whatever it may be.
Speaker 3: If you know, for instance, next year the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 3: the Packers Hall of Fame, perhaps I'll wear that. But otherwise,
Speaker 3: like you're wearing your super Bowl ring out, that says
Speaker 3: a lot about.
Speaker 2: You, kind of like wearing a hat with more personality
Speaker 2: than you have.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: I used to bartend in Missoula, and there's an old
Speaker 4: timer who played for the Raiders and had a Super
Speaker 4: Bowl under his belt, and he wore his his super
Speaker 4: Bowl ring.
Speaker 5: But at that time, uh, you.
Speaker 4: Know, I imagine that was more of a common thing
Speaker 4: because it looked way more of a ring than this.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not saying I wouldn't wear it for free drinks.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that.
Speaker 1: You you might not be old enough to get this reference.
Speaker 1: But when I put it on, I feel like Liberachi.
Speaker 3: I know, Liberaci, there's a lot of sparkling.
Speaker 1: A lot of sparkle. You ever hear players get a
Speaker 1: little hard up and selling their rings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard.
Speaker 1: What do they get for him when they do that?
Speaker 3: It depends on the player. I mean there's there's been
Speaker 3: some who will put there I don't know about rings,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure it's happened. But bigger name guys, we'll
Speaker 3: take it to auction and they'll bring in lots of money.
Speaker 1: So Tom Brady sold his whole ring collection, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be millions of dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's I mean it would I don't know
Speaker 3: what that would go for if he sold, if he
Speaker 3: sold one ring, I'm sure that would be at least
Speaker 3: seven figures.
Speaker 5: It's a heck of a weight.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's really heavy.
Speaker 5: That's wild.
Speaker 1: Okay, hang tight, Clay, Okay, we're gonna cover off on
Speaker 1: some stuff, all right. I had the opposite of a correction?
Speaker 1: What would you call it? Phil? What would you you know,
Speaker 1: when we do corrections where you're wrong, what'd you call it?
Speaker 1: If you were right?
Speaker 5: So someone's writing proven you're right, or the person writing.
Speaker 1: I said something I got shot down and then turns
Speaker 1: out I'm right. I think that's a yeah, you're just
Speaker 1: proving your point. Yeah, okay, I'm gonna prove my point
Speaker 1: on something.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Their day. Uh. There was a biologist named Carmen van
Speaker 1: Bianki sitting right where you're sitting right now, and I
Speaker 1: was telling her about the late comedian Jerry Klower, who
Speaker 1: would tell uh as he said, he doesn't tell funny stories,
Speaker 1: he tells stories funny. I was talking about how Klower
Speaker 1: is such a fan of great detail in his hunting stories,
Speaker 1: and I was saying that a miss a mess up
Speaker 1: that Klower had as he's telling a story about a
Speaker 1: guy that used to he didn't believe in shooting raccoons
Speaker 1: out of a tree. He'd like to climb the tree,
Speaker 1: knock the raccoon out with a stick, and then let
Speaker 1: the dog, let the raccoon fight it out with the dog,
Speaker 1: because he felt you had to give a raccoon a
Speaker 1: fighting chance, and if that raccoon wanted to lick all
Speaker 1: those dogs and walk off, it was up to him.
Speaker 1: But he didn't want to shoot it. And Klower has
Speaker 1: a story about this guy, John Newbanks, climbing into a
Speaker 1: tree and getting into a fight with a it's not
Speaker 1: a raccoon. He punches it with a stick, but it
Speaker 1: winds up being, as Klower said, a lynx. And Klower
Speaker 1: says it was a lynx. We called them souped up wildcats. Now,
Speaker 1: Carmen van Bianki that was in your seat is a
Speaker 1: lynx researcher. Then someone said, well, I don't think Klower
Speaker 1: messed up. I think that there's so much name confusion
Speaker 1: because the bobcats Lenaean name is Lynx rufus right, so
Speaker 1: they're like I think that people used to use linx
Speaker 1: and bobcat interchangeably, or in some areas they would call
Speaker 1: a bobcat a lynx. And I listened to that story
Speaker 1: to check what I was talking about. Klower just prior
Speaker 1: to that uses bi. Yeah, I notice that too. He
Speaker 1: says cuts out. You don't have to worry. He says
Speaker 1: he's talking about his dog, Brummy. He said, when old
Speaker 1: Brummy cuts out, you don't have to worry about no
Speaker 1: possum or no bobcat.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then when John Newbanks gets into the tree, he says
Speaker 1: it was a lynx MM, which don't range into Mississippi now,
Speaker 1: and then cal will get frustrated if we talk about
Speaker 1: something that does not matter. Can you imagine him right now,
Speaker 1: just giving you like this.
Speaker 5: It's like you're inside my brand.
Speaker 1: It's like, what am I doing?
Speaker 4: I want everyone here to note the patience that I
Speaker 4: was having. I was really thinking that it was going
Speaker 4: to come back to our podcast guest.
Speaker 1: Surely this is going to come home and hit home
Speaker 1: in some way. It's near and dear to me. Cal's thing.
Speaker 1: We're gonna Uh uh so Chester's here, Max Barter's here.
Speaker 1: I've asked you. I can't remember the answer. You no
Speaker 1: relation to tread BARDA Yeah, I do you do?
Speaker 5: He's my uncle.
Speaker 1: Oh I I tell everyone that. But no, same spelling,
Speaker 1: same spelling. Yeah, isn't it isn't. It wasn't his slogan,
Speaker 1: I don't do things the hard way. I do things
Speaker 1: the bar away. You can just do you ever? Just
Speaker 1: steal that tattoo?
Speaker 5: No get a tattoo?
Speaker 1: I said, that's a tattoo right there. Thay Seth Morris
Speaker 1: is here, Doctor Randall and uh callahan krins off where
Speaker 1: she sits. We're nooking here, doctor Randall.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: We're excited. We are about the long Hunter Audio originals
Speaker 1: performing nicely people are enjoying it. We're very excited. It's
Speaker 1: got some negative reviews. Just don't a couple the top review.
Speaker 1: Clay opens up the reviews. So me and Clay narrate it.
Speaker 1: Worked on it with Randall. Clay opens up the reviews
Speaker 1: in the first review, I don't like that, Clay nwcom guy.
Speaker 1: It just deflates you, man, it's so bad.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just want to call Apple and be like, he
Speaker 1: just move that, like to another area.
Speaker 2: A lot of people say they like Clay's voice.
Speaker 1: You know that there's always gonna be some negative thing.
Speaker 4: Can't please everybody, Yeah, the people who say positive things.
Speaker 4: Typically that takes more energy to write in about something
Speaker 4: positive than to complaint.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he likes something, you just sort of quietly
Speaker 1: like it. It don't feel the need to tell anybody.
Speaker 1: It's way more fun to criticize things. Yeah, my buddy
Speaker 1: Tommy Ed's in the blue collar Scholar. He might have
Speaker 1: a criticism. He might have wrote it. I get a
Speaker 1: text from him. Why are there two narrators? I said,
Speaker 1: it's a long story.
Speaker 5: That's it. Just just that that's it, and say, hey,
Speaker 5: it's pretty good. Not a question for you.
Speaker 1: Nope, Nope, geez, Tommy, he didn't comment sandwich. That No, Oh, Krin,
Speaker 1: did you see the article about how you shouldn't give
Speaker 1: comment sandwiches?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you share that with me? The compliment sandwich, which
Speaker 1: we've covered on the show, is like you say, do
Speaker 1: I need to do it again? I do it all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 6: People get it.
Speaker 1: We're good to offer criticism. The new way to offer
Speaker 1: criticism is to say I have a hell of a
Speaker 1: lot of respect for you. You could do better.
Speaker 5: Wow, that seems like your dad's like yelling I eat
Speaker 5: about something.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do the second installment of Oh No, First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. We have a kids podcast coming out.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a bunch and see how they do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do five. We're gonna do five kids podcasts
Speaker 1: four or five kids podcasts five?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: Why did why did it change a minute ago when
Speaker 1: I talked to you, Let's go with five.
Speaker 5: It's a real peak behind the curtains going on, Yeah, we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna try it.
Speaker 9: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't really know. People discourage you from from kids content.
Speaker 5: There's an ongoing email chain as we speak, trying to
Speaker 5: get down to the bottom of this.
Speaker 1: So just so people know when they see it. Here,
Speaker 1: here's the thing that's gonna happen if you listen to this.
Speaker 1: And I never tell people that this is there's kids
Speaker 1: that listen, but I never tell people this is a
Speaker 1: kids show because you'll find out in a minute. One
Speaker 1: of the reasons is not a kids show when we
Speaker 1: get to talking about a broken reproductive organ on a
Speaker 1: wild hog. But but in all fairness, I would talk
Speaker 1: about that with my kids because we're pretty open with
Speaker 1: them about stuff. Here's the trouble with the kids. It's
Speaker 1: not trouble with the kids podcast. It's just hard. We're
Speaker 1: gonna see if people like it. I think that I
Speaker 1: know we have a ton of young parents out there
Speaker 1: that listen. And we did a kid's book and our
Speaker 1: and our kids book was became a number one New
Speaker 1: York Times Best which inspired us to do a kid's podcast.
Speaker 1: The kid's podcast is gonna run like this, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna see it in your feed because we're not gonna
Speaker 1: build I don't think we're gonna build its own feed.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see how people like it and how they
Speaker 1: respond to it. So if you're listening and you start
Speaker 1: seeing this kid's podcast pop up in your feed, and
Speaker 1: you're not a kid and you don't have kids, just
Speaker 1: ignore it. Go on to the next thing. It's the
Speaker 1: kids Show. The Kids Show is very short. It has
Speaker 1: three components to it. I come on and do a
Speaker 1: little mini history lesson. Okay, we're gonna do a kid
Speaker 1: and I have kids, so I've had kids for thirteen years.
Speaker 1: I don't want two Mountain horn. In thirteen years. I've
Speaker 1: established my credentials as someone who explains things the kids
Speaker 1: a lot, so I kind of get how to explain
Speaker 1: things to kids. So I'm just doing it all the time.
Speaker 1: I talk about in the first one, why teddy bears
Speaker 1: are called teddy bears? Okay, which is a bear hunting story.
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna do one about animals that are crepuscular,
Speaker 1: not nocturnal, not die crepuscular, stuff like that. Then we
Speaker 1: do a thing that kids are gonna love, where it's
Speaker 1: animal noises. And it's like a clue game as you
Speaker 1: build up to guess what animals make in that noise.
Speaker 1: And we have some phenomenal wildlife noises and you'll hear it.
Speaker 1: You be like that ain't no animal, but it is,
Speaker 1: and so it's a guessing game. And then there's Kids
Speaker 1: Trivia where we have a bunch of kids come into
Speaker 1: the studio and it's a three question trivia show and
Speaker 1: instead of them competing against one another, which is what
Speaker 1: they would like to do, they work as a group
Speaker 1: to raise money for conservation. So, you know, like the
Speaker 1: only game show where conservation ours wins, me Eater Trivia,
Speaker 1: This is the only kids show where conservation ours wins,
Speaker 1: and their day the only kids show where belching ours wins. No,
Speaker 1: how did that go, Fiel? That was a good joke.
Speaker 5: We don't want to spoil it. But there's involved.
Speaker 1: Yes, the kids at the table earn money for every
Speaker 1: right question they get and it can be accumulative. So
Speaker 1: if you ask ten kids a question and all ten
Speaker 1: kids get the question right, they would earn fifty bucks,
Speaker 1: one hundred bucks, something like that, and it goes on.
Speaker 1: And so they're contributing by getting the answers right and wrong.
Speaker 1: They're contributing to a pool of money collectively that then
Speaker 1: goes to support conservation organs organizations. We don't let the
Speaker 1: kids pick, I guess, Spencer picks for them. Yeah, Spencer
Speaker 1: hosts that and it's a panel of kids. So if
Speaker 1: you got kids, you might like this. And if it works, well,
Speaker 1: we'll keep doing it. If not, and I'll we'll keep
Speaker 1: you posted. If it's not resonating and people don't like it,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do it because it's a heavy lift.
Speaker 1: It's like hard to find advertisers for a kids podcasts.
Speaker 1: I'm just being really upfront.
Speaker 2: I was wondering why there was all kinds of havoc
Speaker 2: going on the other day. Oh yeah, just running around
Speaker 2: and next thing I know, they're in my office eating
Speaker 2: a bunch of candy.
Speaker 1: And you know the worst thing about having the kids podcasts,
Speaker 1: my kids participate, and I'm always bringing junk from home
Speaker 1: and putting it on the free table. In a minute,
Speaker 1: my kids come that door, they go to that free table,
Speaker 1: find stuff, and then bring it back to my house.
Speaker 2: I gave him some stuff.
Speaker 1: No, they come, they like, they don't stop. Then you
Speaker 1: know there's candy around. They look hard enough. The first
Speaker 1: thing they're gonna do is go to that free table,
Speaker 1: fill a bag up with a bunch of hats whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then go back home with all that stuff and
Speaker 1: fight about it like it was never laying around. I'm like,
Speaker 1: the reason it's on the free table is because it
Speaker 1: was here and no one wanted it.
Speaker 5: I think you're kind of under selling the show, though,
Speaker 5: switch back, because.
Speaker 1: Because get in there, well I sell the hell out
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 7: Well you did.
Speaker 5: You're like, I don't know what's gonna happen. It's hard
Speaker 5: to do.
Speaker 1: We'll see.
Speaker 5: But I just want to say that we played it
Speaker 5: for Spencer the other day and he thought he thought
Speaker 5: it was one of the best things we've ever done
Speaker 5: as a company.
Speaker 1: Hold on, you played it for who?
Speaker 5: We played the rough cut of the pilot episode for
Speaker 5: Spencer and he loved it. He was over the moon
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the best thing we've ever done.
Speaker 10: I'm twenty seven years old, and I think I'm gonna
Speaker 10: listen to this podcast.
Speaker 1: I might in a thing or two. I'm not under
Speaker 1: I'm trying to oversell it. I'm just trying to clarify
Speaker 1: why you see a kid's show in this feed, and
Speaker 1: I'm asking people to bear with us. Don't be annoyed,
Speaker 1: don't be like, what in the hell is this? It's
Speaker 1: just because we're doing it and to benefit America's children.
Speaker 1: That sounds that sounds. We're doing it for America's children,
Speaker 1: and then after five, if we see an appropriate response,
Speaker 1: it'll move and live on its own, and so you
Speaker 1: won't always have to wonder why this kids show is
Speaker 1: on your thing. If you have parents, I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna like it. We're gonna jump into a second installment. Oh,
Speaker 1: can you share the pictures with Clay Matthews. Yes, we're
Speaker 1: gonna jump into the second installment of our trail cam series.
Speaker 1: The last one we did Cats we focused on Ditch
Speaker 1: Cougar's Mountain Lions, Bobcats, and then and then, but there's
Speaker 1: all the last time we did crazy trail Cams. There's
Speaker 1: a little thing to Happen where we were talking about
Speaker 1: what not to send in, and we were laughing about
Speaker 1: someone who just sends in a picture of a pig
Speaker 1: a wild hog with his lipstick out, and Krinn we
Speaker 1: were laughing about Krinn has to open all these up.
Speaker 1: And so we were sort of pointing this one out
Speaker 1: as an example of something not worth sending in, like
Speaker 1: pigs get excited, pigs reproduced just because you happen to
Speaker 1: get a trail cam photo of a pig ready aroused,
Speaker 1: aroused that doesn't need to go to Krinn, and so
Speaker 1: we dogged on the guy. Then the guy rode in saying,
Speaker 1: you got me all wrong.
Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of lipstick and this one's worse.
Speaker 1: He's like, sure, this guy does have his lipstick out
Speaker 1: all the time, but he points this out. It's stuck out,
Speaker 1: and he said it's flopping around. So he's always right,
Speaker 1: flops the water place never goes away over time. It's
Speaker 1: not that he has out, it's just out.
Speaker 5: My wife had a chiuahua like that.
Speaker 1: Oh hang tight. So we're gonna call a veterinarian here
Speaker 1: and she's gonna explain something. Can you hear this good?
Speaker 5: Put the bottom of the phone right up to the
Speaker 5: like the front of the microphone. Make sure your volumes
Speaker 5: talking volume all the way up.
Speaker 1: Hello, Divina, are you ready to talk about the pig?
Speaker 5: Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: So I'm on the phone with the Divina. We have
Speaker 1: a resident genius. We have Doctor Randall, but he's not
Speaker 1: the resident genius. We have an actual resident genius, an
Speaker 1: actual resident genius named Hunter Spencer. And I'm on the
Speaker 1: phone with Hunter Spencer's spouse, who is a veterinarian. And
Speaker 1: I called her about this pig, and she clarified she's
Speaker 1: not a hog man, but she has some things to discuss.
Speaker 2: Divina, I have some I do have some animal knowledge.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I can share. So share it with this
Speaker 1: gentleman named Jacob who we teased, and now we owe
Speaker 1: an apology and an explanation.
Speaker 5: Put the fun in the front of your mic, Steve,
Speaker 5: where you talking about.
Speaker 7: Are we referring to the pig or are we referring
Speaker 7: to dogs and cats?
Speaker 1: Well, you can do what you think is going on
Speaker 1: with the pig based on what you know goes on
Speaker 1: with dogs.
Speaker 7: Okay, So in the photos that you sent, obviously the
Speaker 7: pigs penis is out. That's called paraphemosis in dogs and cats,
Speaker 7: pigs it is. It actually is a rare phenomenon that
Speaker 7: it can't happen. It's more common in dogs. It can
Speaker 7: happen for a number of reasons, but the most common
Speaker 7: reason in bogs is that they get an erection. The
Speaker 7: penis comes out of the prepuce, which is the skin
Speaker 7: that houses the penis. The penis dries out and then
Speaker 7: it can't go back in the place. Sometimes you can
Speaker 7: also especially in large in long haired breaths, the hair
Speaker 7: can get wrapped around the penis prevents it from going
Speaker 7: back in. So it's typically one of those scenarios.
Speaker 1: Vini honsec yepa dragon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 3: Of penis around.
Speaker 1: Okay, guys, want to make sure our guess is following.
Speaker 4: There's lining up with anything. He's on the locker room.
Speaker 4: Just wait, you can answer that later. We got back
Speaker 4: to it.
Speaker 1: Go on to penis.
Speaker 7: Sorry, So anyway, I would say, what's happened with this
Speaker 7: pig is that he's had an erection and for some reason,
Speaker 7: the penis just hasn't went back.
Speaker 2: Into the sheath or the pre pews.
Speaker 7: In dogs, it can cut off circulation and the penis
Speaker 7: can actually end up falling off, which has I have
Speaker 7: seen happen. But in that particular photo that you said,
Speaker 7: it doesn't look like the penis is engorged. It looks
Speaker 7: like it's just more flaccid and just in the out position.
Speaker 7: So yeah, can you tell folks how you fix it?
Speaker 1: In dogs? This is a crazy story. Oh what surgeries
Speaker 1: did you do on animals? Today?
Speaker 7: I did a dental on a dog and then.
Speaker 3: We also did what did we do on that dog?
Speaker 7: Had a piometerrispe, which was an infected uterus in a
Speaker 7: dog Suspan neuters. You're your pets to prevent that. I
Speaker 7: have to plug that.
Speaker 1: And then the other dog.
Speaker 7: We did a sedation on and we did trim the
Speaker 7: nails on that dog because it won't allow them.
Speaker 1: You had to sedate a dog that you nails. Yes, yes, peanut.
Speaker 7: Butter, that happens quite often. Yeah, they hate their nails
Speaker 7: to be trimmed.
Speaker 1: Got it? So talk about how you fix this on
Speaker 1: a dog, because this is I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 7: The most simple way to fix it, and generally what
Speaker 7: you do is you just wash the penis off gently
Speaker 7: using cool water. You apply some lubrication and then just
Speaker 7: pull the skin back over the penis.
Speaker 5: If it is too big.
Speaker 7: To sit back in, you would apply a hot hypertonic
Speaker 7: saline solution or sugar.
Speaker 5: Sugar pulls fluid out.
Speaker 7: So you can actually just pack the penis with sugar, yes,
Speaker 7: a few minutes and then pull the fluid out.
Speaker 3: I feel, yeah, you can, and then you can pick
Speaker 3: it back in.
Speaker 7: Sometimes you have to open make the opening larger, huh,
Speaker 7: in order to get it back over the penis, and
Speaker 7: then in cases where the penis has died, you actually
Speaker 7: have to amputate the penis and make it basically visually
Speaker 7: like a girl. You would just suture an opening up
Speaker 7: and the dog would pay through the opening instead of
Speaker 7: the end of the penis.
Speaker 1: Would they still lift their legs?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you ever cure them of lifting their leg Yeah?
Speaker 3: They normally will still do that.
Speaker 7: Yeahs behavior yeah, behavioral response. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So if you see that five pound bag of sugar
Speaker 4: at the vat, they're not just drinking a lot of.
Speaker 1: Divina. Dude, you don't even know how much I'm gonna
Speaker 1: We're gonna call you on this show now that you
Speaker 1: did such a good job of this. Oh, her family's
Speaker 1: from her family's longtime bear like app latch and black
Speaker 1: bear hunters hunters. Yeah, oh, plug your vet business.
Speaker 7: Well, I'll work so we live in Virginia Beach. I'll
Speaker 7: work at kimspill Venery Hospital.
Speaker 2: In Virginia Beach.
Speaker 1: And no, are you looking for clients or are you
Speaker 1: just trying to have it be either? You don't have
Speaker 1: to do anything down there.
Speaker 7: We always welcome clients. Yeah, so yeah, call us.
Speaker 5: Up until you become the regional penis specialist. Like, that's
Speaker 5: what's going to result out of this?
Speaker 1: So plugged plugged the business again.
Speaker 7: Yes, it's Kensvil Ventary Hospital in Virginia beach.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not catching the first word. I'm sorry. Kemp
Speaker 1: spill k E m p s v I L L
Speaker 1: E god kemp spill Kempsville asked for divinum. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: don't let other podcasts call you up. All right, No,
Speaker 1: another podcast wants to talk about something, telling me you
Speaker 1: can't because you're you got an exclusive.
Speaker 2: I'm loyal to you, guy, Yeah, you got.
Speaker 1: An exclusive here, right, You're like you're like doctor Phil
Speaker 1: used to be the Oprah for us not thinking the
Speaker 1: right guy?
Speaker 5: Yeah, doctor asked.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Divina. You're welcome.
Speaker 7: Have a good one, guys, all right, all.
Speaker 1: Right, so there you go the guy we goove down,
Speaker 1: made it right and we all learned something. Yeah, Jacob,
Speaker 1: there you go, Jacob, sorry to dog on you man.
Speaker 1: I didn't think you were a pervert. Karen Mine, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Oh oh yeah, so this I'm catching the
Speaker 1: theme now. Another guy rote in, where where do people
Speaker 1: go to see all these pictures you want to post?
Speaker 9: Some of them on Instagram maybe, but if they're.
Speaker 1: Watching this episode, Oh okay, so yeah, if you're wonder
Speaker 1: what we're looking at, you can go on just just
Speaker 1: go watch the show on YouTube obl see the pictures.
Speaker 1: This one is a guy I rolled in. He's got
Speaker 1: he's got a picture of this buck alive, and he's
Speaker 1: got a picture of a buck dead. The buck dead
Speaker 1: is hanging right side up, head up. And the gentleman
Speaker 1: that rode in thought that his that the deer's scrot
Speaker 1: him was in front. So if you imagine deer going
Speaker 1: down the trail, his penis is leading in the way,
Speaker 1: leading the way, and his scrot them is taking up
Speaker 1: the rear.
Speaker 10: Cal would you say something about Frank's in the back?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: That that's something about Mary reference got got the beans
Speaker 4: before the frank.
Speaker 5: How'd you make that happen?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So your frank is first, your beans come take.
Speaker 1: If you're a deer, your frank is leading away and
Speaker 1: your beans are behind. Typically sends in a picture where
Speaker 1: there's a deer, what his beans are the head of
Speaker 1: the frank Krin sends it to Halffelfinger, deer biologist, great
Speaker 1: friend of the show, Halflefinger says it was a couple
Speaker 1: of things going on. One his halfle finger says, what
Speaker 1: you're looking at, what you think are enlarged beans, is
Speaker 1: a tumor, a scrow shaped tumor riding ahead of the frank,
Speaker 1: beyond the frank, behind the frank, and maybe related to
Speaker 1: the tumor is an atropheed scrotum.
Speaker 10: Next picture, I was gonna say, those don't look like testicles.
Speaker 10: Looks like something else was happening there.
Speaker 1: That's a Hefflefinger thinks.
Speaker 3: About that picture, Clay, I think it's a hernia, and
Speaker 3: I bring that from my sports background. You hear people having,
Speaker 3: you know, herniations, and they have to get that wire
Speaker 3: mesh put in.
Speaker 1: And we had a buck hernia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you could see the what looks like
Speaker 3: the intestines might be spilling out. Maybe this veterinarian Virginia
Speaker 3: Beach can do a wire mesh implant before this buck
Speaker 3: was killed.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you'd mind me sharing personal information
Speaker 1: of yours.
Speaker 5: No, I go for it.
Speaker 1: Seth got diagnosed with I recently shared the experience of
Speaker 1: going down and having the boys Sonard.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you and I have a very very similar experience, and.
Speaker 1: They told they read Seth's results. What do you call
Speaker 1: that when you when you're having a baby ultrasound? They
Speaker 1: read Seth's results.
Speaker 5: It's like life scope.
Speaker 1: But and they're like, oh, you got a hernia. And
Speaker 1: then Seth goes down to the hernia guy and he
Speaker 1: takes a look and tells Seth to get up and
Speaker 1: go home. He says, ninety percent of the people they
Speaker 1: send me down here, suppose you with a hernia don't
Speaker 1: have a hernia?
Speaker 5: Yep, surprised.
Speaker 2: What did you have just like a lot of gas
Speaker 2: or something?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I do have that, but uh no, it's
Speaker 5: just a strained muscle, gotcha.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, can we put up Phil Do you have
Speaker 1: the technology? The technology to put up a photo of
Speaker 1: Max's hernia? Oh boy?
Speaker 5: If he sends it to me, yeah, we'll do that.
Speaker 1: The last part of the trail camp, the last trail
Speaker 1: camp picture we're gonna get into. And you this, you
Speaker 1: gotta there's there's nothing extraordinary about the trail camp photo.
Speaker 1: So June third, twenty twenty three, four twenty nine pm. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a mountain lion walking through what looks to be
Speaker 1: a Riprairian area. But The story behind is pretty crazy
Speaker 1: because a man and woman that own this place, they're
Speaker 1: getting married on their property, and they get married on
Speaker 1: they get married at whatever the hell four o'clock June third,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Okay, oh really, they get they get
Speaker 1: married June third, twenty twenty three at four pm. In
Speaker 1: this cell cam picture is a mountain lion that was
Speaker 1: snapped at June third, twenty twenty three, four to twenty
Speaker 1: nine pm. He's got a picture of where he got
Speaker 1: married and an arrow pointing to where the trail camp is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at at four point thirty okay, and unbelow. Later they
Speaker 1: just pulled the card and they're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: a mountain lion. And they looked at the date and time,
Speaker 1: and that lion was there while they got married, like
Speaker 1: right behind where they got married.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. I had years ago. I was at
Speaker 1: wedding in Taos, New Mexico, and the gal I was
Speaker 1: with where I didn't know the people get married, but
Speaker 1: she did. And the preacher commented on the hawks circling overhead.
Speaker 1: There were buzzards. Oh. I turned to my date and said,
Speaker 1: I mean hawks.
Speaker 2: I think the mountain lion thing would be good luck.
Speaker 2: You know how they say if it rains at your wedding,
Speaker 2: it's good luck, good juju.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't know that.
Speaker 10: No, Steve, do you actually want me to send that?
Speaker 1: True? I think it'd be a good idea. Okay, I
Speaker 1: just think if you want to folks out there one see,
Speaker 1: like just a real no need to go get no
Speaker 1: ultrasound over this herdia. Yeah, give me definitely a heard you.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know there's that Bob Dylan quote, don't need a
Speaker 1: weatherman to tell the way the wind blows right, and
Speaker 1: that hernia diagnoses itself. Yeah, is he putting it up
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, it'll be a thirty seconds here.
Speaker 1: So Clay Matthew's your first duck ever today? First several
Speaker 1: ducks first, different kinds of stay closer to your mic
Speaker 1: way Yeah, sorry, Oh you' all right. Did not grow
Speaker 1: up around hunting though I didn't.
Speaker 3: I grew out in the outside of Los Angeles and hunting.
Speaker 3: No one hunting my family.
Speaker 1: Because they all played football.
Speaker 3: They all played football. Yeah, they were all busy during
Speaker 3: the fall, the best time a year to hunt. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know once I got to uh uh, and
Speaker 3: I wasn't even I was always an outdoorsman. I always
Speaker 3: enjoyed the outdoors, just just messing around out there as
Speaker 3: a kid, but there's limited opportunities where I was living.
Speaker 3: And I think once I went to Wisconsin and Green Bay,
Speaker 3: that's when you know, I started to be around immerse
Speaker 3: myself in that culture of you know, white tailed deer, hunting, turkey,
Speaker 3: black bear, walleye fishing, king salmon, and I think that
Speaker 3: just kind of lit the fire, so to speak. And
Speaker 3: then I, you know, had the means to to book
Speaker 3: some of these hunts and travel a little bit more,
Speaker 3: and I think I just started down the path to
Speaker 3: where I'm That's where I'm at now, I might Okay, yeah, interrupted.
Speaker 1: That's that's not a testicle, I promise, yeah, wow surgery. Yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I saw Clay Register that picture off the corner of
Speaker 1: his eyes striking were the kind of kidd was just
Speaker 1: good at all, like good at everything, good at all
Speaker 1: the sports.
Speaker 3: Not really I I was. I was good when I
Speaker 3: was young, very good, and then I got passed up
Speaker 3: because I went through puberty real late, like almost like
Speaker 3: my junior and senior year. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's hard to.
Speaker 3: Explain to people why I'm talking about my you know,
Speaker 3: becoming a man. But you know, and so I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I played in high.
Speaker 1: School and then all of a sudden, you weren't big anymore.
Speaker 3: Exactly, And I was getting passed up by everybody, and
Speaker 3: I had to my knees hurt, my heels hurt, I
Speaker 3: had chin splints. I was not a very good athlete.
Speaker 3: And finally my senior year, I grew about three inches
Speaker 3: and put on about forty pounds, and I was I
Speaker 3: was still coming into my own, you know, as far
Speaker 3: as an athlete is concerned. But my dad was our
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator and opted not to start me. So you know,
Speaker 3: that's just that goes a lot a lot of a
Speaker 3: lot of parents blow. Yeah, well, I mean rightfully, so
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have been starting. So I don't hold it
Speaker 3: against them whatsoever, but it makes it makes a story
Speaker 3: that much better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, layout who all who all in your family is
Speaker 1: involved in professional sure? Who? Like?
Speaker 3: Well started with college sports in the NFL. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: started with my grandfather, Clay Matthews senior. He went to
Speaker 3: Call He played football and was a boxer, but he
Speaker 3: went to Georgia Tech and then played for the forty
Speaker 3: nine ers and ended up serving in the Korean War.
Speaker 3: And this was back when football you didn't make a
Speaker 3: whole lot of money. And then two of his sons,
Speaker 3: which is one is my father, so Clay Matthews Junior,
Speaker 3: he played nineteen years in the NFL. And his brother,
Speaker 3: so my uncle Bruce, he played nineteen.
Speaker 2: Years as well. Business it's unheard of to play nineteen
Speaker 2: years too.
Speaker 1: He's in the You gotta have some sore parts, man.
Speaker 3: My dad seems to be in great shape. My uncle's
Speaker 3: he's you know, he's got some locked up elbows and
Speaker 3: from being in the trenches. But he's in the Pro
Speaker 3: Football Hall of Fame. And however, gosh, how many of
Speaker 3: his kids he's had. One is currently the starting left
Speaker 3: tackle for the Atlanta Falcons, Jake Matthews, who I've done
Speaker 3: a number of hunts with. My other cousin, Kevin, played
Speaker 3: for the Titans for for four or five years.
Speaker 2: That's incredible.
Speaker 3: Another one of his brothers, another one my cousins, was
Speaker 3: was with the Pittsburgh Steelers for a minute. And then
Speaker 3: on my side of the family, obviously, I you know,
Speaker 3: had my career eleven years in the league. My younger
Speaker 3: brother played, he went to the University of Oregon. He
Speaker 3: played five or six years, and then my older brother
Speaker 3: didn't play in the NFL but played college ball at
Speaker 3: University of Southern California. So I don't know how many
Speaker 3: that is, but yeah, football, it's yeah.
Speaker 2: They're like, what's your last name, son, Matthews?
Speaker 3: Okay, come on, Yeah, we've been blessed to have a
Speaker 3: body that can, you know, withhandle the riggers and punishment
Speaker 3: of the game. But I also think we're I think
Speaker 3: we're a little different in the sense of the competitive
Speaker 3: nature that we have and how you know, we want
Speaker 3: to be great and I truly believe that.
Speaker 6: Hm.
Speaker 1: I can't remember if I mentioned this before when we
Speaker 1: were talking to other athletes, but I got a friend
Speaker 1: who he's the first baseman with the Mats Pede Alonzo.
Speaker 1: You know you're here. He's been on the show and
Speaker 1: he's all right. He never knows if he's gonna be
Speaker 1: able to hunt on a bunch because if he's on it,
Speaker 1: if if they don't make the playoffs, it's a killer
Speaker 1: hunting year for him. Yeah, because he's what done in
Speaker 1: some time you're done.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you make the playoffs, you're screwed.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: October. So I asked him, I said, do you ever
Speaker 1: wind up sort in the back of your head hoping
Speaker 1: that you don't make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: He's like, no, Well, football is tough because our seri screwed. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if you're the worst team of the best team, we
Speaker 3: start in late July and we go all the way through.
Speaker 3: You know, the super Bowl goes through the first or
Speaker 3: second week of February. Now, but even if you don't
Speaker 3: make the playoffs, you're finishing January first second, So you
Speaker 3: could forget all those good hunting seasons.
Speaker 1: There's gotta be a lot of NFL guys like the
Speaker 1: hunt turkeys, because the only thing you can do.
Speaker 3: Honestly, there's there's not a lot of NFL players, And
Speaker 3: I could be wrong. I could be wrong, but I
Speaker 3: would say generally on each team you have a handful
Speaker 3: of guys, but maybe two to four people who might
Speaker 3: actually hunt. There's plenty of players who love to shoot guns,
Speaker 3: and you know who might be getting into archery or whatnot.
Speaker 3: But as far as putting the time, it's really difficult,
Speaker 3: and it's not until after their career, much like myself,
Speaker 3: that they start really diving into it. So they're just
Speaker 3: because of the time thing, exactly, just because of the
Speaker 3: time thing. It's just it's too difficult.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: You hear stories of Brett Faarr just obviously having played
Speaker 3: up in Green Bay. He show up, you know, he
Speaker 3: go out, who knows four or five in the morning
Speaker 3: and come back with bloody hands before a game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's some wild stories about Brett Favr of his hunting
Speaker 3: days and you know, just buck blood down the back
Speaker 3: of his truck bed and whatnot. But yeah, otherwise it's
Speaker 3: you know, I feel like there's not too many.
Speaker 1: What is the in your mind, what's the hunting and
Speaker 1: fishionists of the sports in terms of, like, you know,
Speaker 1: of the pro sports, what ones are most inclined. It's
Speaker 1: gotta be like hockey.
Speaker 3: I would say hockey, just because I feel like hockey
Speaker 3: is predominantly like Midwest East.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not the order, because there's a hell of a
Speaker 1: lot of hunters in the South. It just kind of
Speaker 1: has that feel to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see many basketball players going out hunting.
Speaker 3: I just don't. That doesn't seem like that's part of.
Speaker 1: Their it's not culturally woven in.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Football.
Speaker 1: You have a few. Remember we had the whole room
Speaker 1: full of baseball players. It was the day the Walalleye
Speaker 1: scandal broke. We played trivia though, those guys. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: whole ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know a team could have like
Speaker 3: eighty pitchers.
Speaker 1: It was like a roof of like a dozen dudes, Like,
Speaker 1: are you sure you guys all pitched for the same team.
Speaker 9: See.
Speaker 10: I don't think I can name a single hockey player that,
Speaker 10: like professional NHL player that put like hunts.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know what. I have strong feelings about
Speaker 1: things about that, right brother?
Speaker 10: Oh Mike Fisher, Yeah, yeah, that's one.
Speaker 1: What do you think is the hunting is pro sport baseball.
Speaker 5: Baseball or football?
Speaker 1: For well, wouldn't be football because you got to play football. Well,
Speaker 1: baseball you might get done in time. No hockey.
Speaker 10: The NHL hockey season starts in October and goes till June.
Speaker 1: So they can't do They can't do the rut or
Speaker 1: spring turkey, no, neither of them. But a baseball person
Speaker 1: can hunt. Yeah, if they're no good.
Speaker 5: What about a kicker?
Speaker 3: Kickers just want a golf kickers are notorious for the
Speaker 3: amazing golfers. Yes, because during practice and during training camp,
Speaker 3: kickers have one job. It's to kick, So they don't
Speaker 3: have to be in certain meanings. They gotta be in
Speaker 3: team meetings and whatnot, but they don't have to be
Speaker 3: it's a specialty. So while we practice for two hours,
Speaker 3: they might be called up for two periods and once
Speaker 3: you're kicking for you know, three minutes here and five
Speaker 3: minutes there, whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: They have a gravy job.
Speaker 3: Yes and no. I you know, I'm actually really good
Speaker 3: friends with our former Packers kicker Mason Crosby. But it's
Speaker 3: you don't need to be at the peak physical fitness,
Speaker 3: but at the same time, you're the first one they
Speaker 3: want to blame when you miss the game winning kick.
Speaker 3: When there's a million other plays throughout the game that
Speaker 3: could have affected the game one way or the other.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people could have made a point,
Speaker 1: but when he doesn't make a point, it's just.
Speaker 3: It's probably one of the most stress filled jobs, especially
Speaker 3: not for the kicker who might be able to see
Speaker 3: past that unless he's got a case of the yips.
Speaker 3: But you know, family members watch and at least with me,
Speaker 3: you know, I get an opportunity or used to. You know,
Speaker 3: fifty sixty seventy plays a game. You slip and fall,
Speaker 3: No big deal. You miss a tackle, you'll get him
Speaker 3: next play. You miss a kick, You're not getting him the.
Speaker 2: Next hear it.
Speaker 1: The only thing they do to you is you talked
Speaker 1: about how you never had a sack display, you never
Speaker 1: had a celebration, you never had a signature.
Speaker 3: I had one for a little while. Yeah you had
Speaker 3: a signature. Yeah, yeah, what was your signature?
Speaker 1: Can you get up?
Speaker 3: It's been a while. I might throw something out, but no.
Speaker 3: I So my my first year, I would point in
Speaker 3: my watch and like let everyone know what time it was.
Speaker 3: And it was like that was that was my little thing,
Speaker 3: and it was cool and yeah, just letting people know, yeah,
Speaker 3: dame time. Right. And but my next year, my brother's like, hey,
Speaker 3: you're gonna I got hurt in training camp and I
Speaker 3: didn't come back until week one, so naturally have time
Speaker 3: to you know, perfect your celebration. Everybody's got a celebration.
Speaker 3: And and so for my brother goes, hey, my older
Speaker 3: brother goes, you need to do something cool. Why don't
Speaker 3: you remember that that scene and Predator when Arnold faces
Speaker 3: off with Predator and the predator kind of outstretches his
Speaker 3: arms like this and he flexes.
Speaker 5: Yea, you need to do that.
Speaker 3: And so I got a sack on the first third
Speaker 3: down of the game, and in my head, I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, like arms going, remember how to do it? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: And it was the worst one. My hands were still
Speaker 3: clanched and it looked like I was like sumo squatting
Speaker 3: with it. But then I I kind of perfect a
Speaker 3: little bit, and then I got it out there. This
Speaker 3: is what I was doing. So that was my thing
Speaker 3: for a while, and I remember that, and then, you know,
Speaker 3: after after so many years and so many sacks, I'm
Speaker 3: just kind of like, ah, right, you just kind of
Speaker 3: just you do your thing. But yeah, everybody's yeah, there's
Speaker 3: a there's yeah. It was something like that. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: took the background.
Speaker 1: Oh see, I thought when we were when we were
Speaker 1: hunting ducks this morning, I kind of got a sense
Speaker 1: that you were a little bit eye rolly about the celebration.
Speaker 3: No, no, well, no, we were. We were talking about
Speaker 3: somebody's family, you know. They they just come from a
Speaker 3: different era where you know, the celebrate. It was all
Speaker 3: about the team. But nowadays it's like everybody. You score
Speaker 3: a touchdown, you get a sack, you tackle, Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: all about you. You sell yourself. You're building the brand so well.
Speaker 3: You know the old heads and you know exactly the
Speaker 3: old heads, they it's more about the team. But nowadays,
Speaker 3: you know they're trying to sell sell jerseys, sell you know, fans,
Speaker 3: sell out venue.
Speaker 5: I remember Joe Paterno used to say, act like you've
Speaker 5: been there before.
Speaker 1: M yeah, well, rehearsed celebration would convey to me that
Speaker 1: they're quite, that they're quite.
Speaker 5: He's very proficient to say it all the time. But
Speaker 5: that just meant like, score your touchdowns are changing.
Speaker 1: To yeah, yeah, meer state that got it in all
Speaker 1: that trouble. Wasn't that him from Pens.
Speaker 5: That was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well Sandusky brought him down with him, didn't he. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And here you are quoting him, well, quote, that's what
Speaker 1: you've been there before.
Speaker 5: I don't think I have any Stolin quotes.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: Uh, when you're on a team, how many like how
Speaker 1: many of like how many other people do you like?
Speaker 1: A lot? Like you just mentioned you're good friends with
Speaker 1: the kicker how many Like if you had to imagine,
Speaker 1: here's the whole lineup, there's gotta be some you can't
Speaker 1: stand all right, Sure, some of you, like whatever, don't
Speaker 1: really talk too much. Some are really good friends, Like
Speaker 1: what's that split look like?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think the first thing is, and
Speaker 3: not to get politically correct, but you're working towards a
Speaker 3: common goal, so you get along with everybody, and you
Speaker 3: you're accountable to one another. But that being said, what's
Speaker 3: great about the locker room is you can have a
Speaker 3: guy who grew up in the suburbs of l A
Speaker 3: hanging out with somebody from Miami, Florida, somebody from Maine
Speaker 3: up to Oregon, you know, working towards a common goal.
Speaker 3: So it brings people together that you'd never have an
Speaker 3: opportunity or you would never think that you would get
Speaker 3: along with. So I'll preface all that by saying that,
Speaker 3: but those yeah, and.
Speaker 1: I get it's true. It's true though, Okay, yeah, because
Speaker 1: the rivalries can't.
Speaker 3: But some of my best friends to this day, I mean,
Speaker 3: are guys where you I would get together with them,
Speaker 3: and it would you know, we'd look like one of
Speaker 3: these Hollywood movies of the two cops.
Speaker 1: You know, you got the white guy and the black guy, and.
Speaker 3: Then that's that's how it would be. But your closest
Speaker 3: with your position group, you spend the most time. For me,
Speaker 3: it was a linebacker, so there was a group of
Speaker 3: maybe seven or eight of us in a in a
Speaker 3: room and that's you know, we spend all our time together.
Speaker 3: And then you break out to go to for defense,
Speaker 3: to defensive meetings, so you've got half the team there,
Speaker 3: and then when you have a team meeting, so you
Speaker 3: don't spend a whole a great deal of time with
Speaker 3: the offense for me personally forging those relationships, but I
Speaker 3: do have some of my best relationship with the offense
Speaker 3: lineman who I went against and played against excuse me
Speaker 3: the most. But to answer your question, yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: that that there's guys that you really click with, but
Speaker 3: they're generally going to be in your position group. And
Speaker 3: then it kind of it furthers itself out based on
Speaker 3: how much you're together with them, because from the time
Speaker 3: you get there, everything structured. You show up at this time,
Speaker 3: you have special teams meetings, then it goes a team
Speaker 3: meaning then you go to defensive meeting. Then you go
Speaker 3: to you know, you break out for walkthrough, then you
Speaker 3: have workout. It's so you're structured and who you're with,
Speaker 3: so you just hope that you're with a good group
Speaker 3: of guys.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there was that one guy though not nah, there's.
Speaker 3: There's never that one guy because they don't last long.
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta you kind of got to buy in.
Speaker 1: What was the if you think back that you grew
Speaker 1: up without the exposure to the outdoors and now you're
Speaker 1: you know, you're in a position where you can start
Speaker 1: doing some honting and have been taking advantage of that situation.
Speaker 1: Can you what was your first awareness that this was
Speaker 1: a thing people did.
Speaker 3: Probably when I got out to Green Bay. I remember
Speaker 3: when I got drafted. I was, you know, I had
Speaker 3: to was still using Wikipedia to find out where Wisconsin
Speaker 3: was on the map green Bay. I know there's so
Speaker 3: much history, but I had to look it up. I
Speaker 3: had no idea where I was. I remember, because you
Speaker 3: were one age well I was, I was twenty two.
Speaker 3: But you just you're from the West coast, you know,
Speaker 3: like the East, but you don't study the Midwest, and
Speaker 3: so at least.
Speaker 1: I didn't and no, it's pretty you know. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so that's not that's not crazy that Like I grew
Speaker 1: up Michigan. If you'd have told me, if you just said, oh, uh,
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, right, I've been like, yeah, utah, how
Speaker 1: that fits into the broader like what touches that you
Speaker 1: know at that age.
Speaker 3: But when I was flying in, it was you know,
Speaker 3: everything was green. I flew in in you know, spring,
Speaker 3: and it was beautiful. But then once I got there,
Speaker 3: I mean I can't name an exact time or place,
Speaker 3: but just being around the culture, more than anything of hunting, fishing, outdoor,
Speaker 3: I think just kind of helped bring that out. Because
Speaker 3: I was there, you know for so long, for ten years,
Speaker 3: I think you just kind of immerse yourself in that
Speaker 3: culture and you assimilate. And there was just opportunities to
Speaker 3: go white tail huntings, to go turkey hunting where people
Speaker 3: are like, hey, you know, come along, you know, And
Speaker 3: so I picked it up and had a blast doing it.
Speaker 1: Everybody walking around with a bag of jerky snack sticks
Speaker 1: in your back pocket.
Speaker 3: Oh you got to go to a tailgate at Lambo.
Speaker 3: I mean there's there's there's beer, cheese, and brots. So
Speaker 3: you can't go wrong with that.
Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna throw the mosquitos in there
Speaker 4: at some point. So yeah, mosquitoes are are there bad
Speaker 4: mosquitoes up there? I guess I didn't go far enough north.
Speaker 3: In the parking lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not in the fall July, I know, I'm yeah.
Speaker 3: J Lie is not too bad for I mean where
Speaker 3: we were. I'm sure if maybe up in the north
Speaker 3: Woods or it could get pretty bad, but where we are.
Speaker 3: You know, when they tell you to make that hand
Speaker 3: of where you know Green Bay is, I guess no.
Speaker 1: They don't do that hand for Wisconsin to do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you hold it up like the territorial there.
Speaker 1: That's Michigan, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they got county door County is.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Wisconsin will throw the hand. Yeah he's called
Speaker 1: that miss Michigan. Yeah, yeah, that's terrible.
Speaker 5: Yeah podcast having a kids show?
Speaker 3: Was there much of a rivalry between just growing up
Speaker 3: in Michigan, Like even outside of football, if you're not
Speaker 3: the biggest sports fan, just like Michigan versus are Wisconsin
Speaker 3: versus you know, Illinois.
Speaker 1: Or here's the deal with My mom was from Illinois
Speaker 1: and she remained my dad didn't know any about sports
Speaker 1: at all. Uh, my mom was a big sports fan.
Speaker 1: She had been raised in Illinois and what was when
Speaker 1: she was a kid, like farm Country, which became a
Speaker 1: big Chicago suburb, Neighborville. But she remained so dedicated to
Speaker 1: the Chicago teams. She like the Cubs, the White Sox,
Speaker 1: and we all like she was religious about the Bears, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: she would be out there. There was a I still
Speaker 1: some weird way I remember this. There's a radio. There's
Speaker 1: a radio station. There's a talk radio station in Chicago, WGN,
Speaker 1: And my mom actually had an antenna and would always
Speaker 1: be messing with this antenna on the roof. It was
Speaker 1: the ante's on the roof. She wouldn't be on the
Speaker 1: roof mess with my dad would be or whatever. But
Speaker 1: she would just listen to WGN and would sit and
Speaker 1: listen to baseball games, and would sit and listen to
Speaker 1: football games on the radio.
Speaker 3: It's a great rivalry. I mean, I think it's so.
Speaker 1: I'm not aware of who she viewed the rivals to be,
Speaker 1: but I know that one of the highlights of her life.
Speaker 1: She's still alive. One of the highlights of her life
Speaker 1: was whatever the hell it was nineteen eighty four or
Speaker 1: something and the Bears, you know, trounced the Patriots.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I think was it the eighty five
Speaker 3: Bears when they yeah, eighty.
Speaker 1: Five Bears, Jim McMahon, Fridge, Perry, Mike Single, Super Bowl Shuffle, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the album they had. My mom had that album. Nice,
Speaker 1: but that was my that was my exposure as a kid, Like,
Speaker 1: that's what I knew about football. Was I knew about
Speaker 1: my mom listening watching, you know, following the Chicago teams
Speaker 1: because she just felt, I don't know, that part of
Speaker 1: her never went away even though they lived in Michigan.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, growing up in LA you just don't have rivalries
Speaker 3: like that, and moving out there and just it's it's
Speaker 3: a big deal of where you're from, who you root for,
Speaker 3: and you know how much it means to them, not
Speaker 3: just the team, but the whole state, the city that
Speaker 3: you get that win, whether it's the Bears, like you
Speaker 3: had mentioned, White Sox, Cubs or Brewers, Packers, Bucks. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's it's big out there.
Speaker 1: You know. Here it's a little bit funny because you
Speaker 1: guys be able to tell me better me, but there's
Speaker 1: no team, Okay, no professional team, and then you go
Speaker 1: up one state South Wyoming, there's no professional team. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's just a grab bag. There's no like,
Speaker 1: there's no sort of there's no I was living in
Speaker 1: Seattle when when when the Seahawks, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: Hell six years ago, six years ago the Seahawks won.
Speaker 1: I remember I went to run Errand during that Super
Speaker 1: Bowl game. I'm not I'm not kidding when I say this.
Speaker 1: I was going through downtown Seattle running an errand I
Speaker 1: was up on I went through Capitol Hill. There were
Speaker 1: no I'm not kidding you, there were no cars on
Speaker 1: the road. You're like, what's going on today? And it was,
Speaker 1: But there's nothing like that here. Well know, some guys like,
Speaker 1: oh I like this team that team. Yeah, obviously right.
Speaker 4: So that's one of the only stations that we had
Speaker 4: in Montana before cable and all that stuff, when you
Speaker 4: had WGN WGN so broadcast. I watched a lot of
Speaker 4: Cubs games, so they would broadcast the Cubs and the Braves,
Speaker 4: and so consequently there were a lot of Cubs and
Speaker 4: Braves fans in Montana because of w g N. And
Speaker 4: then you would get yeah, you're right, for like pro football.
Speaker 4: It would be kind of like a grab bag of
Speaker 4: so they were like consequently like some Falcons fans once
Speaker 4: that happened, because people were already Braves fans. But lots
Speaker 4: of stories are like, oh, my kids liked the Bengals.
Speaker 4: I grew up with some kids in Missoula who are
Speaker 4: just like diehard Bengals fans because why who knows. One
Speaker 4: of the brothers was like into them as a kid,
Speaker 4: and so the whole family just became Bengals fans. There
Speaker 4: are a lot There are a lot of Packers fans.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and that bar that I bar attended in
Speaker 4: uh Red's in Missoula, there was always a big contingent
Speaker 4: of Packers fans that would come down and watch those games.
Speaker 1: The guys I hunt with in Wisconsin, uh this guy
Speaker 1: told you about pack Dirk, And he's got a big
Speaker 1: Packers sticker on his truck. You know, he's got stickers
Speaker 1: on his truck of different famous bucks that have been killed,
Speaker 1: like the silhouette of the famous bucks that have been killed.
Speaker 1: His topper is like made out of plywood on his truck.
Speaker 1: Really and then he's got Packers stickers, big Packers fan.
Speaker 1: But those guys used to joke that when the Packers
Speaker 1: were playing, you could hunt anywhere you want. There was
Speaker 1: your one chance to go hunt the neighbors place and
Speaker 1: just know you were no way to know how to
Speaker 1: get caught.
Speaker 2: Clay. Do you do you think some of that culture
Speaker 2: that you were there like stuck with you because there's
Speaker 2: I can go and see this say hey, I'm Chester
Speaker 2: from Wisconsin. If it's another person from Wisconsin, it's like immediate,
Speaker 2: like you know, connection. Do you think any of that
Speaker 2: that culture stuck with you? And do you do you
Speaker 2: have you have a place back in Wisconsin stilf.
Speaker 3: Oh, No, I saw that so fast? You kidding me?
Speaker 2: I got that.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, there's only one right answer here.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 3: I will say though, that when I meet people from
Speaker 3: you know, when I meet people from Wisconsin or happened
Speaker 3: to hear them, it's a great kind of segue into
Speaker 3: that if you know they're not a Packers fan or whatnot,
Speaker 3: where they lived in the state, there is that little
Speaker 3: bit of connection. Even from my ten years there. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like you're an honorary Wisconsin I just because you
Speaker 3: spend time up there. It just seems at least I
Speaker 3: don't know how. I mean, obviously, you know, growing up
Speaker 3: in La there weren't people from Wisconsin out there.
Speaker 1: But can you tell chesters from Wisconsin?
Speaker 3: Say, you bet you?
Speaker 2: And yeah, although oh you bet you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They got all the women out there, the older women
Speaker 3: in Wisconsin, the thickest accidents in a very particular haircut too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Where is she from? Like, not from you know,
Speaker 2: the US. I think she's from somewhere.
Speaker 3: Country, from Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: But what's it like to become you know, we keep
Speaker 1: goofing about Wisconsin and all that. I mean, do you
Speaker 1: ever does it ever? Do you get tired of the
Speaker 1: whole thing? Like it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I played for the Packers.
Speaker 3: But do I need to be like Wisconsin's you know,
Speaker 3: no spokesman. I think I think it's more so. No,
Speaker 3: I don't get I don't get tired of it. In fact,
Speaker 3: the more I'm removed from Wisconsin and the Packers, just
Speaker 3: like anything, the more you come to appreciate. And my
Speaker 3: wife and yeah, my wife and I were reminiscing, you know,
Speaker 3: because when most guys get drafted or move to Wisconsin,
Speaker 3: oh gosh, there's nothing to do out there. And then
Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about twenty
Speaker 3: two year old football players. You know, twenty one year
Speaker 3: old they want to Hey, these athletes want to hunt
Speaker 3: something else, all right, Well, but we were reminiscing over
Speaker 3: it just you know, because we have a young family.
Speaker 3: You know, the parks and where we lived in the neighborhoods,
Speaker 3: and how well we were treated out there, and I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: our time up there was fantastic. I really enjoyed it,
Speaker 3: and there's certain aspects that I miss. I was able
Speaker 3: to get back this past year to do some walleye
Speaker 3: and king salmon fishing up on Lake Michigan, and it
Speaker 3: was back at Lambeau for two of my teammates were
Speaker 3: putting the Packers Hall of Fame. And now my kids
Speaker 3: are such big Packers fans too. So the human element
Speaker 3: of when they tell you they don't want you anymore
Speaker 3: where you're like these sons of you know, you come
Speaker 3: full circle and you grow up a little bit and
Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, all right, okay, all right, go pack it.
Speaker 1: So you spent you spent ten years there, ten years
Speaker 1: and then finished your career a year in LA for
Speaker 1: the Rams.
Speaker 3: Yes, what was that like? La was fun. It was
Speaker 3: a lot of fun for me personally.
Speaker 1: We've been back home.
Speaker 3: No, it was great. It almost made the season go
Speaker 3: by even faster because I was training and I was
Speaker 3: just so lucky that the RAMS facilities were all of
Speaker 3: twenty minutes from where I grew up out there, so
Speaker 3: my parents, my family were able to come to every game. Practice.
Speaker 3: The weather it's a lot warmer than it is in Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: Physical therapy, massage therapists, the gym in which I trained
Speaker 3: at was all right there, so everything was already how
Speaker 3: I spent my off seasons. Now I was just there
Speaker 3: year round, so it was it was real fun. In fact,
Speaker 3: I thought I was going to do that for much longer.
Speaker 3: But you know, they had other plans.
Speaker 1: When we were duck out this morning, I was asking
Speaker 1: you about what you were talking about. Get your jaw
Speaker 1: broke and they wired your jaws shut. Yeah, And it
Speaker 1: was an interesting detail I never thought of. You were
Speaker 1: telling me that they give you a wirecutter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in case you got a puke or something. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they needed to be ready to get your mouth
Speaker 1: back open.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I was asking you, what's the relationship between when
Speaker 1: you injure someone bad someone injures you. Is there any
Speaker 1: sense of obligation to like acknowledge that, and you're saying
Speaker 1: this is not part of the culture.
Speaker 3: It's not part of the culture. Now, I think if
Speaker 3: it was accident, well, they're always accidental, I mean very
Speaker 3: rarely are there, you know, malicious heads or something. Yeah, intentional,
Speaker 3: But I think if you were to tear somebody's knee
Speaker 3: up or a season ender, you might reach out and
Speaker 3: you know, offer your condolences to them. But I just
Speaker 3: feel like it's not in the culture. I mean, I
Speaker 3: got absolutely blind side up in Philly. Guy peeled back
Speaker 3: on me, lit me up, landed on my labor, and
Speaker 3: I tore it up. I still deal with problem. I
Speaker 3: haven't heard from it, and I don't expect him to.
Speaker 3: It's part of the game. But you know, on the
Speaker 3: flip side of that, I can't how many guys I broke.
Speaker 3: There was a quarterback who I broke his arm just
Speaker 3: with my helmet. I went to hit him. Actually, I
Speaker 3: think he was playing for the Bears. You can't remember
Speaker 3: the guy's name, Hoyer, Brian Brian Hoyer.
Speaker 1: You don't send him.
Speaker 2: Flowers, no, But it's just you probably should it's kind of.
Speaker 1: Foot hunt. Well, I would, it's an excellent part of
Speaker 1: I'd be. I'd be doing everything I could for Philly.
Speaker 3: It's a little different, but I'll go with that and
Speaker 3: just say it's kind of that next man up, Like
Speaker 3: you're on a you feel bad. There's the human element
Speaker 3: of that. You're like, oh, man, like you put yourself
Speaker 3: in that position. It's the you know why me? But
Speaker 3: I mean you can't. You're onto the next play. You know,
Speaker 3: you're onto the next game. You can't focus on that.
Speaker 3: It's a very cold business.
Speaker 4: Maybe just have some just sign one of those posters
Speaker 4: of you doing that, and.
Speaker 1: Remember was it was it? Who was it?
Speaker 6: Not?
Speaker 1: Name it? Who got the compound fracture on National TV? Yeah,
Speaker 1: now there's the dude. So I don't remember who did
Speaker 1: easy to find out. There's some dude out there that
Speaker 1: is saying, man I gave that dude Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 3: No, I think he's.
Speaker 1: Not like man I gave that guy a compound fractures.
Speaker 3: He can pick any he's the best, arguably the best
Speaker 3: defensive player to I've ever played the game. So he's
Speaker 3: got a long he's got better accolades than you know.
Speaker 3: I broke this guy's But that messes you up though,
Speaker 3: when you see a compound fracture or something point the other.
Speaker 3: It's one thing when a guy blows out his knee
Speaker 3: just but you don't really see it. You see the
Speaker 3: guy down. But when a you know, a guy lifts
Speaker 3: his leg up and it's pointing this. Oh, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like the it's a the Damar Hamlin. Are you
Speaker 3: familiar what happened to the Damar Hamlin on the Bills?
Speaker 3: I think this was his last year or two years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And so I mean.
Speaker 1: That remind people because I'm I remember this. But from
Speaker 1: when you were going to say that, I thought you
Speaker 1: were going to say the guy that the hockey player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, Damar went to make a routine tackle
Speaker 3: and you guys have to film me on what it
Speaker 3: was called. But I guess he took such a shock
Speaker 3: to the chest that it gave heart attack. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: gave him heart attack and he just he fell down
Speaker 3: on the field. They had to do chess. You know,
Speaker 3: it's not CPR, but the chest compressions and everything on
Speaker 3: the field, and you're just watching it at home, like
Speaker 3: just we just watch somebody die on the field, and
Speaker 3: I guess he did die for you know, all intents
Speaker 3: and purposes, and so they called the rest of that
Speaker 3: game off there that we're done. It just it messes
Speaker 3: with you. And I'm going off on a tangent able
Speaker 3: to let you know that that you know, it is
Speaker 3: bigger than sports. But yeah, with certain injuries, it's almost
Speaker 3: like you're you know, you're onto the next one. But
Speaker 3: with others, you're just like, that's that's, that's it. You
Speaker 3: know that.
Speaker 1: American hockey player that recently was killed and he's on
Speaker 1: a European league. Yeah, Adam Johnson caught a skate, caught
Speaker 1: a skate cut his juggler.
Speaker 5: Which is insane.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well my daughter plays high I can remember. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my daughter plays hockey. A couple of days after that, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you. Every girl net guards, well it's
Speaker 1: actually she's on co eds. Boys and girls all net guards.
Speaker 1: And on top of my daughter's all scared of someone
Speaker 1: cutting her throat with a skate. I'm like, Rosie, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate man, how many people are playing hockey for
Speaker 1: how long and they can point to one guy like
Speaker 1: you're not going to also go out there and get
Speaker 1: and also trying to explain it. These people are two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think there's only been like you. There's only
Speaker 10: been like two or three deaths ever in high with
Speaker 10: a skate getting.
Speaker 1: So there's more than one. Yeah, I was telling that
Speaker 1: was the only one.
Speaker 10: No, I know, there's a goalie and there was like
Speaker 10: one other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's nervous.
Speaker 4: I mean, how much are we going to whine about
Speaker 4: that there's two or three fatalities?
Speaker 5: Max, Come on.
Speaker 3: But we enjoyed watching at home with our beaters and yeah,
Speaker 3: oh that.
Speaker 1: Was harrowing though. Just this is just one of those freak
Speaker 1: I heard about it. A guy like my neighbor's friend.
Speaker 1: He pairing. This guy broke a ski pole and ran
Speaker 1: that broken into the ski pole right up into the
Speaker 1: joint of his leg and growing already. And the guy
Speaker 1: was dead in seconds on the snow, thirty some years old.
Speaker 1: Man makes you makes the inside of your leg hurt.
Speaker 4: Clay and I had a great conversation when I was
Speaker 4: dropping them.
Speaker 5: Off at at the hotel. We got to get into
Speaker 5: a land management. But more and more so.
Speaker 1: Than that, I do want to get into his land management.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, uh, you know, because you're a fly around
Speaker 4: the field kind of meat stick head thumper.
Speaker 5: Your word's not mine.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure you said that today.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say it came very naturally to.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 4: But we were talking about soil ecology, soil health and
Speaker 4: just some of what you're getting into, and like exploring
Speaker 4: the American chestnut.
Speaker 5: How's that for a turn of conversation, right?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean we we we kind of put
Speaker 3: the we. When I was done playing, we were building
Speaker 3: a house in California, moved out there where your typical
Speaker 3: you know, COVID family. We reassessed and we moved outside
Speaker 3: of Nashville now, and we were lucky because we pretty
Speaker 3: much purchased two hundred acres and it's got farm land's
Speaker 3: got a year round running water, four acre spring fed pond,
Speaker 3: hardwoods backs up to the Natchez Trace.
Speaker 2: I know we were talking about that earlier.
Speaker 1: But you'll find ladies and gentlemen, you'll find mention of
Speaker 1: the Natchez Trace in Long Hunters Available in American History
Speaker 1: A bailable now, seventeen sixty one, seventeen seventy five.
Speaker 2: And I already pitched him on that too.
Speaker 1: It's good good.
Speaker 3: Well, I just I you know, I find myself as
Speaker 3: soon as the kids are dropped off at school, I
Speaker 3: just go down there and I I mean, there's there's
Speaker 3: I can get into anything, you know, see what's going on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: whether it's just splitting wood or clear and brush. Recently
Speaker 3: had the pond dredge, just because I know we had
Speaker 3: talked about this. The oxygen levels were low. Yeah, too
Speaker 3: much muck. So now that's filling back up.
Speaker 1: When it drained it out. Was anything surprising in there?
Speaker 3: No, there wasn't. I was fully expecting to find like
Speaker 3: some Civil War era relics, giant fish. Oh no, you know,
Speaker 3: it was kind of It wasn't very satisfying because I
Speaker 3: just assume there would be a pool of fish at
Speaker 3: the end that you could you know, fish and get
Speaker 3: them out. But they, unfortunately, they slowly died because this
Speaker 3: was middle of summer. The water was too hot and
Speaker 3: so they just piled up on the shore.
Speaker 1: And but no, like, oh my god, that was in here.
Speaker 3: No, but we had caught some big, some big bass
Speaker 3: out of there, but nothing. There was a propane tank
Speaker 3: in there. One of the many reasons why I, you know,
Speaker 3: wanted it dredge to know what was going on. But
Speaker 3: I started looking at trees to plant out there, you know,
Speaker 3: fruit trees and whatnot. And I think it was an
Speaker 3: Instagram ad was you know, plant chestnut trees. It's it's
Speaker 3: the it's the you know, it's what deer prefer over,
Speaker 3: you know, every other. So I went down the rabbit
Speaker 3: hole in that, and then I started researching the history
Speaker 3: of the American chestnut and how it was the tree
Speaker 3: of the Appalachias. And I think they're they're functionally and
Speaker 3: stinked now because blight came over wiped them all out.
Speaker 3: It was a main source of wood for everyone in
Speaker 3: that area. The chestnuts were great for wildlife. You sell
Speaker 3: them at Mark and very recently they've been able to
Speaker 3: reintroduce them because they've been breathing them with the Chinese
Speaker 3: chest Now I forgot.
Speaker 1: We had a dude. We had a guy on about
Speaker 1: GMOs and at the end he he works with him
Speaker 1: and understands GMOs and the risks and perceived risks and everything.
Speaker 1: And I remember at the end of the conversation, I
Speaker 1: said to him, so, let's say you fell off a
Speaker 1: tall building and you were falling and you had to
Speaker 1: tell the world to pursue GMOs or not. Would you
Speaker 1: say yes or no? He said, as I was falling,
Speaker 1: I ou'd go maybe. But he told the story of
Speaker 1: He says, if you're going to hack on GMOs, hear
Speaker 1: me out on the American chestnut.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, he told, yeah, they're coming back.
Speaker 3: In fact, a lot of people who I kind of
Speaker 3: running the same circle with, have started, you know, doing
Speaker 3: their own research on it, only for wildlife and food plots,
Speaker 3: but just for the history of it.
Speaker 1: They changed like a gene and now it's resistant to
Speaker 1: the blood.
Speaker 3: So I planted one hundred and twenty one hundred and
Speaker 3: nineteen's expensive. Uh no, but the ones I found weren't
Speaker 3: I found them like I dug deep.
Speaker 1: I had to drive down to not like one hundred
Speaker 1: bucks pea.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: They weren't that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I had one. I think they were about
Speaker 3: three years old. They were about anywhere from six to
Speaker 3: eight feet. But I had one chestnut burr on all
Speaker 3: the trees last year. I was so pumped to see it,
Speaker 3: like open up and possibly they I have these, you know,
Speaker 3: these chestnuts. It was I went back, it was gone,
Speaker 3: Like I think some of the wildlife had already gotten
Speaker 3: to it, but I didn't get a chance. So hopefully
Speaker 3: this next year, now that they've had a chance to,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of set their roots and whatnot, start
Speaker 3: getting some production.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so did you play them in the rolls or
Speaker 1: try to plant them like a natural stand?
Speaker 2: I'm so ocd.
Speaker 3: I was out. I was out there. I bought all
Speaker 3: these steaks. I bought this Mason string that had the stretch.
Speaker 3: I drive to the front of my property on my range,
Speaker 3: I look up and so when you pull in, you know,
Speaker 3: you'll see it in. They're offset every thirty feet from
Speaker 3: one another, and they're offset every fifteen so no matter
Speaker 3: where you go, it's like an optical illusion. They all
Speaker 3: line up perfect.
Speaker 5: I feel real good.
Speaker 3: And then I put all these which took like another
Speaker 3: six weeks. I put all these tree tubes on them
Speaker 3: as well. My fingers are so they're they're they're These
Speaker 3: white tree tubes are about five feet Yeah, to push
Speaker 3: to push the growth up with the zip ties, the
Speaker 3: zip ties, and having to do that. I was so thankful.
Speaker 3: I was done. And now, of course it's been a
Speaker 3: year and I'm like, all right, I want to plan
Speaker 3: another one hundred this year, or maybe I'm gonna move
Speaker 3: on to pears or a different type of fruit.
Speaker 1: So you've been digging that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: Well do you know about biochar? No hit them with that?
Speaker 3: Well I just I just started learning about that as well,
Speaker 3: because I guess they've been doing you you got to
Speaker 3: fill me in this thing. Well, they've been doing this
Speaker 3: in the Amazon for ages. This uh preda, I'm butchering it.
Speaker 3: However you pronounce it's called black earth down there. But anyways,
Speaker 3: biochar is when you burn organic matter through pyrolysis and
Speaker 3: the absence of oxygen, so you have with charcoal and
Speaker 3: by itself you put in the soil. It'll actually you know,
Speaker 3: take the nutrients out, but you inoculate it with you know,
Speaker 3: whatever it may be. Whether a lot of people will
Speaker 3: put it in their their compost pile, their manure pile.
Speaker 3: But this that I bought was inoculated with humate and
Speaker 3: so now I just need to put it down and
Speaker 3: it just helps. It helps the soil biology, the micro
Speaker 3: organisms and the soil. So that type of stuff, which
Speaker 3: you know, coming from pro sports football to wanting to
Speaker 3: know about juiceing the soils nothing, you know, like that MPa,
Speaker 3: you know all that in.
Speaker 5: The soil now you were hanging out with the landscaping crew.
Speaker 3: Right, No, No, I wasn't doing any of that, so
Speaker 3: that that's you know. I was chopping wood one time.
Speaker 3: My mom called, like what you grew up in the city,
Speaker 3: Like what like like what happened? And I'm like, just
Speaker 3: prep and I just I'd watched Where the World Ends
Speaker 3: on Netflix. I'm over there, Kevin Bacon, you know, chopping
Speaker 3: my wood and whatnot. So I don't know where it
Speaker 3: came from, but I'm having a plast doing learning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta connect with our buddy Doug.
Speaker 9: So.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The the humus is a big is big buzzword and
Speaker 4: the land management world right now because they're if by
Speaker 4: just kind of reconstructing that soil biome, you can all
Speaker 4: of a sudden grow things in soil that that people
Speaker 4: didn't think were possible before. So humous is just like
Speaker 4: super decomposed. It's like the ultra end result of a
Speaker 4: really good compost pile.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I'd love to.
Speaker 1: Uh explain your playing with you the landybot.
Speaker 3: We're gonna live out there, but we like the idea
Speaker 3: of just just being more independent, more self reliant and
Speaker 3: less you know, dependent on on the supply chain. So
Speaker 3: my wife, she's not a prepper, but she she loves
Speaker 3: the idea of having this homestead, you know, growing our
Speaker 3: own fruit and vegetables, having our own cattle and livestock
Speaker 3: and chickens and whatnot, year round running water, as I discussed,
Speaker 3: just you know, having that that fallback fail safe if
Speaker 3: you know, if it hits the fan, you know. And
Speaker 3: then on top of that, the opportunities to afford the children.
Speaker 3: I've got three young children that I mean, they have
Speaker 3: so much fun when they're there. Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 3: just yeah, it's just getting them off their iPads and
Speaker 3: just getting them outdoors. They absolutely love it. It could just
Speaker 3: be you know, I bring my kids there and they're
Speaker 3: on their iPads. No, no, we don't want to go,
Speaker 3: and then they don't want to leave because they're just
Speaker 3: messing around building a dam in the creek, or they're
Speaker 3: collecting you know, the acorns or black wallnuts, whatever it is.
Speaker 3: They just have so much fun. So I think it's
Speaker 3: the opportunities and yeah, really the opportunities that provides us
Speaker 3: as a family.
Speaker 4: You really no it's just interesting that you're in Tennessee
Speaker 4: because I mean it's literal forty acres in a mule
Speaker 4: country where it's like every forty acres has a spring.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's you can't what you can do
Speaker 4: with forty acres in Tennessee versus what you can do
Speaker 4: with forty acres in the vast majority of Montana is
Speaker 4: so insanely different. Yeah, like your ability to actually.
Speaker 1: You put like you put on there, it's going to destroy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and don't you probably don't want to drink the
Speaker 4: water because it's so alkali, you know, it's like but
Speaker 4: over there it's, yeah, it's wild. So where you where
Speaker 4: are you at in the in the con Have you
Speaker 4: started growing food yet?
Speaker 3: We we have not started. Most of the gardening I
Speaker 3: do is in our own backyard. We've got some raised
Speaker 3: garden beds, and I've I've done everything from beats, carrots, tomatoes, pumpkins, watermelons, herbs.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've done peppers. I've done quite a bit
Speaker 3: of peppers. In fact, I even grew those Carolina reaper peppers.
Speaker 3: That was a nightmare. They they they they grew, I mean,
Speaker 3: they they were fantastic, but I put like a sliver
Speaker 3: and one of my eggs, and then my stomach was
Speaker 3: hurting for the next couple hours. It is that I
Speaker 3: forget what it's that.
Speaker 1: So it was as hot as you thought it was.
Speaker 2: It's as hot as advertising.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm gonna grow up the Carolina Reaper. I
Speaker 3: got them to grow and everything. But as far as
Speaker 3: the lands concerned, we just did some no till drilling
Speaker 3: for some clover back there for a food plot for deer.
Speaker 3: But we're getting ready to pour the foundation for our
Speaker 3: barn out there. That'll be kind of like the central hangout,
Speaker 3: planning on having a prep kitchen, like you know what
Speaker 3: we we were at today and you know, having to
Speaker 3: hang out while we build the house, just to get
Speaker 3: down there a little bit more because right now there's
Speaker 3: nothing there. There's no electricity. The kids, you know, after
Speaker 3: those two or three hours, are ready to go home.
Speaker 3: There's no you know, home base so to speak.
Speaker 4: Walk in refrigerator, we can, we can really give you
Speaker 4: the ideas for what you need out there.
Speaker 3: We already have a little four by six walking refrigerator. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we've already got it mapped up. We got a good
Speaker 3: team working on it. But now we gotta we gotta
Speaker 3: have an even better team bring the cost down because
Speaker 3: good grief.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, what were your impressions of hunting ducks this morning?
Speaker 1: You never hunted ducks?
Speaker 3: No, it was a blast turkeys. Turkeys is a lot
Speaker 3: of fun. But as far as ducks, that that was.
Speaker 3: That was a lot of fun. People had told me
Speaker 3: for the longest time that elk hunting and duck hunting
Speaker 3: are two of the best hunts, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna tell you that the turkeys are one of the best.
Speaker 3: Turkey is a lot of fun. I think anything that
Speaker 3: and that this doesn't go in line with duck, but
Speaker 3: anything you can kind of hear and you can call
Speaker 3: in and I can't really call, but you hear them
Speaker 3: getting closer and you know something's out there.
Speaker 2: It's it.
Speaker 3: It kind of gets you going. But the ducks was
Speaker 3: great because you know, you said, these decoys, you know,
Speaker 3: you guys calling them in and you have an opportunity,
Speaker 3: at least where we were at today. Every so often,
Speaker 3: different varieties and and then obviously kind of you know,
Speaker 3: test yourself with the shots that you got to place
Speaker 3: on them.
Speaker 5: So different shot scenarios. It was always the same thing.
Speaker 1: But I had a blast too, and you're gonna get
Speaker 1: a couple of ducks stuff. Yeah, I don't think I
Speaker 1: was ever with someone. Maybe I'm wrong who who kept
Speaker 1: the duck to get it stuffed? They've all got them,
Speaker 1: but I just don't think I've ever been with some
Speaker 1: and the got one that they were going to get stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, my wife was like, she wants a bird, Yeah,
Speaker 3: she wants she wants some birds. I told her I'd
Speaker 3: bring home some, obviously some meat, but you know, she's like,
Speaker 3: when are you gonna start getting some because ads on
Speaker 3: the wall. You know, it's just and she's like, bringing
Speaker 3: home some. The birds look good on the wall, you know.
Speaker 10: So you can do a couple of cool arrangements like
Speaker 10: hanging up by fishing line and flying, which would be
Speaker 10: pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll have to. I spend enough time on Google images.
Speaker 3: It's just like bird and mounts and I have.
Speaker 4: A little fan mounted up there you can flip on.
Speaker 4: Get everybody to wind up.
Speaker 3: She might draw the line there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I wanted to ask you about too, you
Speaker 1: were you were talking about the debate in your head.
Speaker 1: We discussed this a little bit this morning of what's
Speaker 1: when do you get kids involved and you kind of
Speaker 1: got in your head are you talking about you had
Speaker 1: in your head like ten when I was sharing with
Speaker 1: you in this state, ten is the legal age. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: talk talk about that or explain kind of how you've
Speaker 1: debated that in your own head about.
Speaker 3: Well there's there's this fun in line. You know, these
Speaker 3: kids are so desensitized nowadays, but you want to teach
Speaker 3: them the respect. You know, they see a dead animal.
Speaker 3: You want to show them why you're doing this, Why
Speaker 3: are we you know, how this is why we kill
Speaker 3: animals because you know, we're trying to support us and
Speaker 3: you know, keep everything in balance. And I've told them
Speaker 3: as well too, because they were like, hey, can we
Speaker 3: go hunt this? Can we do that? And so I
Speaker 3: just make up an ambiguous age. It's against the law.
Speaker 3: You have to be ten years old. So that kind
Speaker 3: of that gives me some time to get my ducks
Speaker 3: in a row to plan. Yeah, well, they asked for
Speaker 3: we talked about they asked for a go kart. They
Speaker 3: can I get this for You're not old enough and
Speaker 3: I was like, besides, you have to be ten years
Speaker 3: old before they so they let off it for a
Speaker 3: little bit. But I've included them as much as possible,
Speaker 3: but I just I feel like, for me personally, with
Speaker 3: where my kids are at, I'm not really ready to
Speaker 3: hand them a firearm.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: You had mentioned which I thought was great, you know,
Speaker 3: having your child on your lap when they do their
Speaker 3: first turkey and.
Speaker 1: They shot there. So my daughter got her first turkey
Speaker 1: at eight. My boy got his first turkey at eight,
Speaker 1: which in their home state they can't hunt at that age.
Speaker 1: But we would go to a state that didn't have
Speaker 1: the age requirements and they both shot their first turkeys.
Speaker 1: But I mean literally in my lap.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now how they deal with the you know, waiting
Speaker 3: in the blind and all that, because I feel like
Speaker 3: I will sleep. Oh that would be my nightmare if
Speaker 3: there's life, fall asleep.
Speaker 1: Okay, man, he dragged kid out of bed like four
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning. They're like, he's going to sleep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: more matter. But our buddy on he's not here right now.
Speaker 1: But he had these funny pictures of he hunted pretty
Speaker 1: hard with his daughter this year. He's got these pictures
Speaker 1: of her sleeping in the most just like awkward positions,
Speaker 1: awkward spots, you know those uh, slumped over against a
Speaker 1: tree sleep and.
Speaker 4: What are the the like two dudes that like blow up,
Speaker 4: you know, lots and stuff. Yeah, this series of photos
Speaker 4: that it was his daughter as that you know, and
Speaker 4: like you cut the fan off and it's just like
Speaker 4: that's what I look.
Speaker 1: But when I would take him out young sitting in
Speaker 1: my lap because they get comfortable, you know, yeah, they're like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you'd realize all of a sudden, you think
Speaker 1: they're just being real good, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you kind of hear like and when they breathe like that,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I just I just let them go, you know,
Speaker 1: wake them up. But man, I don't know. There's different
Speaker 1: there's different approaches people have. I hear people all the time.
Speaker 1: I hear this so much that it must be true
Speaker 1: that people are like reluctant to burn their kids out.
Speaker 1: They don't want to give them a bad experience. They're
Speaker 1: going to burn their kid out, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: want to blow it right, that must happen, But it's
Speaker 1: not been my experience. And of the kids that I'm
Speaker 1: I have a lot of buddies that have kids in
Speaker 1: our kids' ages, you know, in the age of year
Speaker 1: my kids brackets and and who are push it, you know,
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen that happen yet. I'm assuming it
Speaker 1: must happen, but it might be from a past generation too,
Speaker 1: because like I'm just so much nicer. I'm so much
Speaker 1: I'm kind of mean to my oldest boy, but I'm
Speaker 1: so much nicer to my kids than like my dad
Speaker 1: was to me about hunting, just more considerate about their welcome.
Speaker 3: I'm not opposed to, you know, any age restrictions and
Speaker 3: kind of getting those kids out there and perhaps with
Speaker 3: these people who have you know, putting on a it's
Speaker 3: kind of a one and done deal, like we need
Speaker 3: to kill something and if we don't, they're not gonna
Speaker 3: have a good time, and maybe they don't go out
Speaker 3: for another year. But the fact that your kids are
Speaker 3: you know, around or mine in this case, like we're
Speaker 3: always going to our land and we're always out there
Speaker 3: putting out corn or whatever it may be, to kind
Speaker 3: of keep them within the process, perhaps that keeps them
Speaker 3: more engaged than hey, we are taking this trip, you know,
Speaker 3: this three day trip. We're gonna you know, try and
Speaker 3: kill or hunt white tail turkey, whatever it is. And
Speaker 3: if you don't get a sitting up gotta have an hour.
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna happen, ye know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how old are your kids again, Clay?
Speaker 3: They are eight, seven and four?
Speaker 1: What is the boys? Girls? Girl?
Speaker 6: Boy? Yeah?
Speaker 3: We got yeah, Clay the fourth. I figured I'd be
Speaker 3: like every other athlete and name them after me. So
Speaker 3: my oldest is the is the fourth.
Speaker 1: Now are you way leaning on your kids that they
Speaker 1: have to play pro football?
Speaker 2: Not at all, not at all.
Speaker 3: They can if they want. My dad didn't do that
Speaker 3: with us at all. But I just found that at
Speaker 3: least this is a broad stroke statement that you know,
Speaker 3: most boys want to grow up and be like their fathers,
Speaker 3: and I know that for me, they have taken at
Speaker 3: least my youngest. My youngest is a monster. He just
Speaker 3: you know, we have to tackle every night before going
Speaker 3: to bed. But he loves watching the YouTube clipse of
Speaker 3: me back.
Speaker 6: In the day.
Speaker 3: Hey type, that's funny. Type in your Clay Matthews highlights
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm not I'll watching it. That was
Speaker 3: all right. But you know, if they want to grow
Speaker 3: up and do it, I have no problem whatsoever. I'll
Speaker 3: probably be I started playing tackle football at eight years old.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a reason that kids need to
Speaker 3: start that early. Not that I have anything against it,
Speaker 3: but you know, perhaps we start with flag work your
Speaker 3: way up until you're at maybe ten years old. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, when they can start with with you know, tackle,
Speaker 3: the age at which you do serious stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, we had Bo Jackson on the show years ago.
Speaker 1: I was surprised when you told me. He said, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't let my kid play football.
Speaker 3: Listen, I understand both sides.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, it wasn't the lifestyle. It was
Speaker 1: the injuries.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand that. But I mean, first of all,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be the position I'm at today if it
Speaker 3: weren't for football. Just that's just, you know, God's honest truth.
Speaker 3: You know, the financial freedom that it provides you is unbelievable.
Speaker 3: The opportunity to meet people, to help others, to you know,
Speaker 3: push your platform.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do a lot of charitable work, I know.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I just think there's also this other side of it,
Speaker 3: the teamwork aspect, which I think is so important for
Speaker 3: young kids, especially coming from a sports background, as being
Speaker 3: a part of a team and not just always individual sports.
Speaker 3: You learn how to manage your expectations, win together, lose together.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many emotions that you go through,
Speaker 3: and and similar to what we were talking about earlier,
Speaker 3: bringing people from all walks of life together for a
Speaker 3: common goal, I think it starts early, and I think
Speaker 3: it helps them become better humans as they you know,
Speaker 3: as they grow up. So for me, I think there's
Speaker 3: it's it's not just the oh yeah, you can make
Speaker 3: tons of money and do this. I think there's so
Speaker 3: much to it than the fame and money that come
Speaker 3: from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah you said you don't really you don't miss the
Speaker 1: fame terrible, No, not really said to haunt some people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, roar of the crowd,
Speaker 3: right exactly. Yeah. For me, I I've you know, I had.
Speaker 3: I kind of came onto the scene real fast. In
Speaker 3: our second year, we won the Super Bowl and I
Speaker 3: was playing very well, and so you know, you have
Speaker 3: and you know, when you put your your self image
Speaker 3: and your worth in the hands of the media, it's dangerous,
Speaker 3: you know, and and they'll they'll they'll tear you or
Speaker 3: I mean they'll lift you up just to tear you down.
Speaker 3: So for me, it's it's almost been a relief, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of taking a step back and focusing on everything else,
Speaker 3: whether that's you know, being a dad, a husband, being
Speaker 3: able to go hunting and not worrying about, you know,
Speaker 3: the criticism or the praise that comes along with it.
Speaker 3: So for me, I truly have not missed it. You know,
Speaker 3: it's nice when you can get to the front of
Speaker 3: the line certain restaurants and whatnot, But and those paychecks that.
Speaker 1: Used to come in.
Speaker 3: But for the most part, for me, I'm.
Speaker 2: Good with it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean there are people who.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, that's nothing compared to some perfectly lined up chestnuts.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm telling you what. We spent weeks on that,
Speaker 3: and I feel good about it. That'll be there for
Speaker 3: a while. That legacy right there, will be there for
Speaker 3: a while.
Speaker 5: So you had you had some hunts prior, like during
Speaker 5: your NFL days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I would try and schedule at least one
Speaker 3: hunt after the season, which would you know, obviously end
Speaker 3: in January February, and I usually I have family in Texas.
Speaker 3: So it started with the exotic hunts, the high fence
Speaker 3: hunts in Texas, and those those were a blast, and
Speaker 3: but I kind of grew out of that and I
Speaker 3: started to enjoy just the fair chase hunts, and so
Speaker 3: I've done pronghorn, white tail. I'm just trying to think
Speaker 3: what's up on the wall mountain lion, and.
Speaker 5: Where'd you hunta antelope?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Colorado? Now I'm blanking on where it was. I went
Speaker 3: elk hunting in Levita, Colorado, did black bear in Utah
Speaker 3: this year? So yeah, then you know what I didn't.
Speaker 3: I guess they had gotten a lot of snow this year.
Speaker 3: So when we went up there, they just they weren't
Speaker 3: you were spring hunting spring hunt? Yeah, with hounds too,
Speaker 3: So there wasn't There just wasn't a lot of low year.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: It was Is it right there?
Speaker 4: Are you cautioned because everybody's a brand kind of in
Speaker 4: the NFL? Are you cautioned to like what in your
Speaker 4: personal life you can you can share when you're when
Speaker 4: you're playing?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah, I think there's for me personally. I mean,
Speaker 3: I know who you know who cuts my checks when
Speaker 3: I'm you know, doing these endorsements and commercials on TV,
Speaker 3: not just outside of the football teams in which I
Speaker 3: played for, but they're usually in New York or LA
Speaker 3: and and predominantly are are you know, either anti hunting
Speaker 3: or you know, yeah, anti hunting. So for me, it's
Speaker 3: like I just I choose not to post that or
Speaker 3: really you know, dive into it and talk about it
Speaker 3: unless somebody within the community the hunting outdoor conservation space
Speaker 3: wants to. But for the most part, it just it
Speaker 3: benefits me just to kind of keep it to myself.
Speaker 3: And not that I'm you know, I wouldn't say a sellout,
Speaker 3: but the opposite of that. But I just I also
Speaker 3: think there's for me and one of the things I
Speaker 3: really enjoy about you know, meat Eater and watching the
Speaker 3: show and the content you put out is he doesn't
Speaker 3: feel like it's just some overweight white male shoots animal,
Speaker 3: takes you know, pictures, smiling over them.
Speaker 1: And I'm super skinny.
Speaker 3: Well, and that's why. But and I think there's you know,
Speaker 3: you watch animals that you know you would look at
Speaker 3: and historically, you know, you might look down on it.
Speaker 3: You're okay, why are we why are you hunting this animal?
Speaker 3: You know, how does this benefit you know, the other animals,
Speaker 3: the ungulates, whatever it might be. And then you do
Speaker 3: a great job cooking it. But at the end and
Speaker 3: you also tell a great story with what the people
Speaker 3: involved in it as well, which I think is phenomenal
Speaker 3: and I think it's helped bring it's helped eliminate the
Speaker 3: stigma of hunting animals, which is just you're this, you know,
Speaker 3: you're the you're blood hungry and you just want this
Speaker 3: trophy for the wall. There's so much more to it
Speaker 3: that you really can't explain to somebody, which I think
Speaker 3: you're doing a phenomenal job who has never hunted before.
Speaker 3: So uh, and I forgot where I went off on
Speaker 3: this table.
Speaker 1: We recently had a Brian Harmon, who won the British Open, was.
Speaker 5: On and who is the hunter in golf?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he said when he in England, they were
Speaker 1: taking a real in the interviewing. You know, they were
Speaker 1: asking a lot of hunting questions. He thought they were
Speaker 1: interested in hunting, but it was you know, then he
Speaker 1: was dubbed the Brian the butcher.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's a shame.
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, these guys are really interesting hunting.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you another thing all along, not knowing
Speaker 1: that they're going to try to roast him over it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and I think you just have to you
Speaker 3: just have to commit. But I mean that's you know,
Speaker 3: that's it was paying me, and so I wanted to
Speaker 3: just kind of fit in line. But I was still
Speaker 3: able to. It's not like they said, hey, you can't
Speaker 3: hunt or you can't do this, So I still got
Speaker 3: to do everything I wanted to. I just chose not to.
Speaker 3: And I've I've always been like that. I've kind of
Speaker 3: kept in uh, you know, an arm the public at
Speaker 3: arms reach just because of the you know how much
Speaker 3: access they give to athletes nowadays, and now you know too,
Speaker 3: whether it be your children or whatnot. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: good with that. Like everything you see on TV, all
Speaker 3: the commercials and stuff that's you know, that's that's fodder.
Speaker 3: But everything that's at home, I try and keep that
Speaker 3: as as private as possible.
Speaker 1: I understand. Yeah, right, Well, thanks for coming on the
Speaker 1: show man.
Speaker 3: I appreciate. I had a blast. Thanks so much for
Speaker 3: the out hanging with the boys and everything this was.
Speaker 3: I'm glad I didn't have to hide this, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe now that I'm on my next you know, navigating
Speaker 3: this post yeah posts. Yeah, I mean, they're not cutting
Speaker 3: my checks for as much anymore, so I'll probably be
Speaker 3: asking for a job here immediately.
Speaker 2: Clay, get stuff done. I'll tell you that because I
Speaker 2: have to buy tags for people all the time and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And I was working with some other guys and Clay
Speaker 2: just called me up. He's like, what do I need?
Speaker 2: And the next thing you know, he sends an email
Speaker 2: over like three minutes later, got all of his tags,
Speaker 2: just gets it done.
Speaker 3: That's just what I told you, right, Let the DNR
Speaker 3: come around.
Speaker 2: But no, but like, that's that's huge. I was like,
Speaker 2: this guy is not.
Speaker 1: Just no how to navigated website.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, they're difficult. Once you get that social in there,
Speaker 3: you're good to go.
Speaker 1: But good shooting today too, by the way, I know,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. One more thing to end on.
Speaker 9: You're talking about which fish you should stock your pond
Speaker 9: with a pole here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, no, this is great. Don't worry about
Speaker 3: I've gone back and forth, so you know now that
Speaker 3: i've I've so when I drained the when I drained
Speaker 3: the pond, I had I had northern bass.
Speaker 1: Northern.
Speaker 3: No, are there two different types of bass? There's four large.
Speaker 5: Large large, Well, there's yeah, there's a bunch of different.
Speaker 3: As far as large. As far as large mouth is concerned,
Speaker 3: there's the Florida and then there's a northern. Oh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I should have clarified that. You know, I don't don't
Speaker 3: get to you're talking.
Speaker 1: I love all the inter intricacies of fish and all
Speaker 1: the differences, but I've never had any exposure to anything
Speaker 1: with the large mouth. But yeah, there's like the Virginia and.
Speaker 5: A bunch of like subspecies, so there.
Speaker 3: Were there was there was crappy in it as well,
Speaker 3: and some type of bluegill, so you know, I brought
Speaker 3: in I brought in somebody who does you know, trophy ponds,
Speaker 3: so he's okay, you gotta stock him with Florida large mouth.
Speaker 3: So initially I was like putting the large mouth in there.
Speaker 3: I haven't made a decision that brought this up.
Speaker 6: Correct.
Speaker 2: I don't put the.
Speaker 3: Finish, so I'd go back to these nor I guess
Speaker 3: these northerns are are more aggressive, but they don't get
Speaker 3: as big, but they were My kids were enjoying catching them.
Speaker 3: And then there's a Florida large mouth, which obviously you
Speaker 3: know can be massive. Then there's these he wants these
Speaker 3: painted blue gill, which are a floor or the subspecies.
Speaker 3: They get really big too, which is fine, but he
Speaker 3: said don't put crappy in. I guess they breed earlier
Speaker 3: than the other fish, eat up all the FIGHTO planked in.
Speaker 3: It was one of those I kind of went over
Speaker 3: my head. I was like, okay, but I started and
Speaker 3: then I want catfish. I want catfish because my kids.
Speaker 3: You know, everybody loves catching catfish. Because don't do it.
Speaker 3: Don't do it. They'll ruin the whole. You know, the
Speaker 3: chain of command, so to speak, within there. And but
Speaker 3: I so ultimate where I'm at is I'm blue gills. Fine,
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go with channel cats, but I'm
Speaker 3: curious on bass. So I'm just curious what everyone is
Speaker 3: gonna eat everything else.
Speaker 5: But your kids are gonna have a lot of fun catch.
Speaker 3: I got four different opinions, but the bass and blue
Speaker 3: gill were in there before.
Speaker 1: Put blue gills back in. That's it, Listen, just put
Speaker 1: the blue gills in there. This world is not going
Speaker 1: to run out of bass. You can run out of
Speaker 1: blue gills, run out of well. Just put blue gills
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 3: Kids are gonna run out of pao.
Speaker 1: Your kids go down there. When your kids go down
Speaker 1: onto the little teeny popper.
Speaker 5: So that's what's cool. Is that they'll eat on the sole.
Speaker 3: They fish there before and they've enjoyed it, but sometimes
Speaker 3: they get bored with I mean they catch because you're getting.
Speaker 1: Here's a problem. You're gonna get bass in there. Then
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like, oh, there's that one bass and
Speaker 1: there's that other bad.
Speaker 7: Deer.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like the next thing. You know, you
Speaker 1: got a coy pond. Don't put no bass in there.
Speaker 1: Let's put a ship. Little blue gills.
Speaker 5: Someone who grew up on a farm had a farm
Speaker 5: pond full of bass and blue gills.
Speaker 1: Opposition to comment on this.
Speaker 5: Put the freaking bass in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going with you. I'm going with the bass.
Speaker 5: Fast, blue gill and catfish.
Speaker 6: There you go.
Speaker 9: I was.
Speaker 3: It's about twelve feet at its deepest. Put some gills
Speaker 3: in there would survives.
Speaker 1: Man, Big old freaking blue gills. You know what you
Speaker 1: want something big? Put those sterilized blue gills in there.
Speaker 1: I know they can't make love. They just it big.
Speaker 3: Okay, Wow, give a show.
Speaker 1: And put some regular gills in there.
Speaker 3: I don't know enough about fish yet, so.
Speaker 1: Well you'll find out when you start raising all these
Speaker 1: different blue gills.
Speaker 4: This Florida hybrid thing sounds really interesting though, Like if
Speaker 4: it's one of those big they could you know, they
Speaker 4: call him like the shell crackers or whatever.
Speaker 5: That'd be cool.
Speaker 1: In the fresh water. There's a couple of fish that
Speaker 1: people will say this about. In fresh water, they'll say,
Speaker 1: pound for pound, nothing can out fight a small mouth.
Speaker 1: Pound for pound, nothing can out fight a blue gill.
Speaker 1: A five pound blue gill is gonna out tussle. There's
Speaker 1: no such thing, but a five pound blue gill is
Speaker 1: gonna out tussle this five pounds small mouth pass.
Speaker 3: But do your kids ever get bored of just catching
Speaker 3: blue gill? Like if you had your if you.
Speaker 1: Have I live in the Inner Mountain West, Dude, there's
Speaker 1: no blue You gotta look high and low for a bluegill,
Speaker 1: not that they have found them.
Speaker 5: If Jimmy was fishing a pond that had a bunch
Speaker 5: of big bucket mouse in it.
Speaker 1: He'd ask me if he could spear them.
Speaker 5: He would, He wouldn't have He would have a blast
Speaker 5: catching them. I know he will.
Speaker 1: Him and his body's catch catch large mouths, dinkers, dnkers,
Speaker 1: not bucket mouths.
Speaker 10: This is such a Minnesota goodbye.
Speaker 1: Get quick, show of hands. Bluegills, yeah, yeah, okay, so
Speaker 1: there's five people think the blue let's go to catfish
Speaker 1: because the best fish. Yeah, to think catfish. Crappies, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: why not crappies? Yeah, the foul mouth bass, large mouths,
Speaker 1: large mouths.
Speaker 5: Yeah one, I'll vote twice.
Speaker 4: Ask this guy if it would be possible to put
Speaker 4: a bowfin in there?
Speaker 6: Both?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, snakeheads.
Speaker 1: I know you don't want to do that. You only
Speaker 1: want to You can get your self arrested you put
Speaker 1: snakeheads in there.
Speaker 4: Well, if I mean bofen would be the the right one.
Speaker 4: But if you know, part of this pond gets so
Speaker 4: hot and denuded of oxygen that fish can live in there,
Speaker 4: and it'll eat frogs and turtles and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: and they taste awesome.
Speaker 3: Don't put Okay, Well, I'm glad we brought this out
Speaker 3: because there's I was actually more uncertainty to this decision.
Speaker 1: Than but now straightened out here. Bluegills just fine.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll start with that and work our way up.
Speaker 5: Your researcher, you'll get you.
Speaker 3: I'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: Any any other questions you solve, did you and your
Speaker 1: wife want to know how you guys should decorate or
Speaker 1: anything we can. We'll handle that right.
Speaker 3: Her wive's got that figured out. But I did, I
Speaker 3: did ask you doctor take a vote on that. Cal
Speaker 3: Cal told me that, did you remember capital tea? You
Speaker 3: gotta you gotta if the fat, you got to score
Speaker 3: the skin.
Speaker 2: Just don't ask these two because he'll give you kind
Speaker 2: of a little bit different answer than Cal, Like.
Speaker 4: This was a crowd situation on your own, Yes, shot
Speaker 4: them straight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, hey, clik, I get a word with room
Speaker 1: temperature pan. This is what's gonna happen when when it
Speaker 1: comes to listen, You're gonna hear a lot of when
Speaker 1: it comes to cook on the duck.
Speaker 3: Just hear me out here. Yeah, room room temperature pantsk
Speaker 3: inside down, Let that that fat or whatnot? Render? Yeah,
Speaker 3: flip it over medium rare, pull it off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, beauty, Sam Potty, Thanks buddy, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you handing out.
Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Thank you as for joining.
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Speaker 10: How I probably a ve goblet gillett in some whos
Speaker 10: or some cat tail goblet hunch it on a dump
Speaker 10: it or fat sell.
Speaker 8: My baby ducky, you had to ask, and I had
Speaker 8: to say, oh ruddy, that little group mill that baby
Speaker 8: display make him be al.
Speaker 6: Like my buddy.
Speaker 5: But don't hunting buddies. They just do cute if I
Speaker 5: see it cooked. And I just want from this certain
Speaker 5: ducks that I like you and an certain duck's where.
Speaker 3: I go with you too?
Speaker 10: Look at that these linstly gabblers.
Speaker 8: I damble with the dabbs, or in that of the
Speaker 8: manads the red head.
Speaker 6: The the good and tend the deals.
Speaker 1: If you do the dems back, there's gonna make the
Speaker 1: tended deal.
Speaker 9: That's the tails with some bravy russell sprouts, and my
Speaker 9: plate stood.
Speaker 7: The answer is the answer if.
Speaker 11: The question is what the taste good?
Speaker 9: Where the donkies say wear them wear the donkey sayd
Speaker 9: were the donkeys? Were the junkies? Hands were the donkeys?
Speaker 9: And where the where the junkies and were the donkies?
Speaker 9: And where where the dunkie?
Speaker 11: Sad?
Speaker 9: Why?
Speaker 8: Grid, that's some creepy stuff. I don't like the way
Speaker 8: the French people creaked ducks. They put a minute cage
Speaker 8: for speeding ducks. Might as well time up and just
Speaker 8: speaking ducks. Freedom duncks, I'm speaking of it. Save them wetlands,
Speaker 8: creeks and stuff they trying up.
Speaker 5: Ain't keeping up them ducks. They't need charity from us.
Speaker 8: Center, Bye bye their regulations.
Speaker 11: I do want that for conversation. You break the rooms,
Speaker 11: no conversation. You shot three scouts as the violation. Whoop,
Speaker 11: I fly and be on your ass, stomped with feet
Speaker 11: on your ass. Whoop, I might just clean on your ass,
Speaker 11: stopping feed on your ass.
Speaker 7: Then they live it up.
Speaker 1: Saving ducks in the bag won't get deal.
Speaker 5: The Redds give us tacks.
Speaker 1: If you hundred for Mallas, you can be here.
Speaker 5: She's got twenty bike.
Speaker 1: He's like Canadians in the fair reached by fly away.
Speaker 5: Don't shoot from the highway.
Speaker 11: Still shot in his new rightway, coming off with my
Speaker 11: twelve game.
Speaker 9: Wearing donkey, sad wearing winning donkey, Sam wearing donkeys, heading donkeys,
Speaker 9: wearing donkeys in wearing them, wearing the donkeys, in wearing donkeys,
Speaker 9: wear donkeys.
Speaker 2: What you do with him?
Speaker 1: Donchees probably smoked him.
Speaker 8: I smoked him with my shot, and then I smoked
Speaker 8: him with my smoker.
Speaker 5: I put him in a bride. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Used to saw that kosher, some godlic, cambra and sugar.
Speaker 4: Now I got a tasty potion.
Speaker 2: What kind of wood you use, pap wood?
Speaker 8: Call him dochee's tasting boy, the tasting good.
Speaker 11: I eat him, upping it knock, got my gut, hopping,
Speaker 11: the drugging, the I'm after hot put on my way
Speaker 11: as the crack of my dogs.
Speaker 5: The ducky's are smartting.
Speaker 1: These duckies are hug landing donkeys.
Speaker 9: And land and landing dunkeys in landing dunkeys in man
Speaker 9: and wan.
Speaker 6: And dunkeys and landing donkeys and land and man and dunkeys.
Speaker 9: And land and dunkeys in landing man and dunkeys.
Speaker 6: In last week I made a duck stuffed mushroom mixed
Speaker 6: with some cream cheese.
Speaker 9: I had like a.
Speaker 6: Mallard, a teal of golden eye and a buffel head
Speaker 6: up in that. Put some sage in it, some bread
Speaker 6: crumbs stuffed it in a mushroom baked in the oven,
Speaker 6: and I had some leftover fillings sa wad. I wrapped
Speaker 6: that up in a crescent roll a bunch of Crest rules.
Speaker 6: I've been eating those quite a bit lately.