1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh and there's 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Chuck and this is short stuff and one I'm excited 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: about because I've been wanting to do this one for 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: a very long time. Chuck. Yeah, I kind of remember 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: this a little bit, do you a little bit? It's 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: just it definitely when I was researching it, I was like, 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: I think I remember just like walking through the living 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: room when the news was on and hearing about this 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: when I was whatever, like fifteen. It's so sad to 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: to to think about that this happened the way that 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: it did, because what are we talking about. We're talking 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: about something called balloon Fest eighties six And it was 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: a uh publicity stunt UH initiated by the United Way 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: of Cleveland to basically rehabilitate Cleveland's image. UM, because back 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: in the eighties and earlier, Cleveland did not have a 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: very good image. Apparently it was referred to as the 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: mistake on the Lake like erie um. The Coyahoga River 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: that flows through it had caught fire very famously in 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: the sixties, UM, and it just didn't have a super 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: good reputation. So Cleveland said, you know what we're gonna 21 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna put ourselves on the map, and we're gonna 22 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: do that, um by releasing the largest number of balloons 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: anyone's ever released, and we're gonna set the world record 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: in this beautiful display of millions of balloons just floating 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: up into the sky over Cleveland, and it's going to 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: be a new moment of rebirth for this city. And 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: the thing is it didn't really go according to plan 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: and kind of back yeah, I mean, first of all, 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: this just is such an eighties thing, right, yeah, oh yeah, totally. 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: It feels just like a balloon release like this could 31 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: have only happened between n Yeah, yeah, I think you 32 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: might be onto something there, not even eight nine. Um, 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: it's just a very eighties thing to do. And we 34 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: also want to mention that we have to tell this story, 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: but we don't want to throw United Way under the 36 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: bus for their um what ultimately ended up being a mistake, 37 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: but a good, well intended, goodhearted mistake. Or George Fraser, 38 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: who was the employee of the Cleveland chapter of the 39 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: United Way who came up with the idea. I'm sure 40 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: George again was very well intended and really wanted to 41 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: create a happy moment for for the city and for 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: the state of Ohio. But like you said, it didn't 43 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: go well. Um, they knew they needed a lot of balloons. 44 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: And you can't just willy nilly get a bunch of 45 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: balloons and some volunteers and make it happen. It needs 46 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: to be planned and coordinated. So they went to who 47 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: else would you go to for this but Treb Hining. Yeah, 48 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: who is a balloon artist and by this time a 49 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: very very famous balloon artist because he'd done balloons for 50 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: like the opening ceremony any of the four Olympics in 51 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and he's done Super Bowls and World's Fairs. 52 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: And he's also known as the man who invented the 53 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: balloon arch, which you've seen a million times been and 54 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: like you see that kind of thing, you never think 55 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: like somebody had to be the first one to put 56 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: one of those together. Well, that's true. And it was 57 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: Treb Hynding or Henning, I'm not sure how you say 58 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: his last name. Um, who did that. And he did 59 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: it actually for the third birthday of Share and Greg 60 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: Allmond's son, Elijah Blue. That's where the balloon arch came from. 61 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: Was SHARE's son's third birthday party. Yeah, I would. Um. 62 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: I did a little bit more research on treb Hynding 63 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: and I don't want to go down that rabbit hole. 64 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: But he he's always been a big balloon guy. I 65 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: think when he was like a teenager, he was some 66 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 1: sort of junior balloon captain at disney World or Disneyland. 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: So made it his career, which is really neat, and 68 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time on this. It took about 69 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: six months of planning and built a big rectangular structure 70 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: right there on the public Square downtown Cleveland, Ohio. Have 71 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: you have you seen? Have you seen video footage of this? 72 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: And I've been in that square, So that structure must 73 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: have been maybe the most magical place on earth for 74 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: those for that day, for those few hours they were 75 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: filling up those balloons, don't you think until they released them? Yeah? Right, 76 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: that's the irony. Uh. It was huge. It was two 77 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty by a hundred and fifty feet, about 78 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: three stories tall. It's got this netting obviously to hold 79 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: everything in. Apparently the same people that made the cargo 80 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: nets for the Space Shuttle chipped in and made this 81 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: mesh net and they had a student volunteers about student 82 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: volunteers who sold these sponsorships to raise money and then 83 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: blowing up these balloons. Yeah. So they were actually sitting 84 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: inside this structure, which is an open air structure but 85 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: was covered at the top by that cargo net, and everybody, 86 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: like hundreds of them just sitting They're filling up healium balloons. 87 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: And then when you filled it up and tied the balloon, 88 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: you just let it go and it floated up and 89 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: it got was trapped by the cargo net, and it's 90 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: more and more balloons were just constantly being added to it. 91 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: It was like this growing mass of multi colored balloons 92 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: all just you know, thirty ft above everyone's head. It 93 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: was really neat to see like footage of that stuff 94 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: in there. UM. And apparently they were going to go 95 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: for two million balloons. That was the original idea, UM, 96 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: and they were going to break Disneyland's record UM, which 97 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: must have been better sweet for Trep hinding Um from 98 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: a year before for the thirtieth anniversary of the park, 99 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: Disneyland released one million, two hundred thousand and nineties six balloons, 100 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: and the United ways that we're gonna release two million 101 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: here in Cleveland. All right, So that's a perfect cliffhanger. 102 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: Let's take a break and talk about what mother Nature 103 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: had to say about all of this right after this. 104 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: All right, so you've got uh, well, you've got two 105 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: million balloons. You're gonna blow up. They probably had a 106 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: few spares for breakage and stuff like that, or poppage 107 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: as they call it in the biz, and um, they're 108 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: blowing these things up. The weather turns bad. It is Cleveland, 109 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: it is right there on the lake, like you mentioned, 110 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: and the weather can be very dicey there by the lake. 111 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: And it's late September too, yeah, which means it's the 112 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: dead of winter pretty much. Now it's fault. But it 113 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: gets really windy and really cold by the lake, like 114 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: big time winds. And the weather turned bad, and they said, 115 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: you know what, let's just stop at one point five million. 116 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: That still breaks the record. It still looks amazing. They 117 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: start to get a little bit nervious, and then they 118 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: finally said, all right, we gotta go here. It's one 119 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: fifty on Saturday, and they lift this net off an 120 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: unleash one point five million balloons and it is amazing looking. 121 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: It really is. Um like that that net was lifted 122 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: off by larger balloons, and like that was pretty cool 123 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: in and of itself. But as these balloons start to 124 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: move their way out from under the net um, they're like, 125 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: it's just like this huge writhing mass, Like they don't 126 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: just immediately separate their kind of moving together as like 127 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: it was like a living thing, yeah, or like a 128 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: cloud rising in the sky made of balloons. But now 129 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: you're right, it did look like a living thing, especially 130 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: because they released it right around in public square, right 131 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: around them what is the Terminal Tower, which is a 132 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: like a fifty two story skyscraper in downtown Cleveland, and 133 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: it just kind of like wrapped and writhed and moved 134 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: around the building. It just it was really cool looking 135 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: for about don't thirty forty seconds, I would say, and 136 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: then things really started to go badly that people are like, 137 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: is he going to say minutes, please say minutes? Nope, 138 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: thirty minutes of joy, yeah, no, nothing like that. It 139 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: was much more short lived than that. The joy was. Yeah, 140 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: So then things get weird. Um a lot these balloons 141 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: basically just have a mind to their own at this point. 142 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: A lot of them, because of the cold air, were 143 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: just pushed back down to the ground. So imagine a 144 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: million balloons and what kind of it's hard to say 145 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: destruction because you're still talking about balloons, but just chaos 146 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: that a million and a half balloons cause when they're 147 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: coming back down to the ground in traffic and over 148 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: the water and over oh, I don't know, a horse 149 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: farm where a woman named Louise Nowakowski was raising some 150 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: very expensive Arabian horses who freaked out and got injured 151 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: and she ended up suing. Yeah. I mean, like there 152 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: were a lot of stories that came from, like you said, 153 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: kay as Um that that erupted from these balloons coming 154 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: back down, because I mean, the original plan was these 155 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: balloons were just gonna go up, up, up, and they're 156 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: eventually going to start to disperse, and in in the 157 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: United Ways defense, the balloons were supposed to supposedly um 158 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: especially made natural latex balloons, which would eventually biodegrade. UM. 159 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: But they would by the time they like came back 160 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: down to the ground um and lost you know, all 161 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: of their air, they would have been you know, days 162 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: or weeks later, and um they would have been so 163 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: far separated there shouldn't have really been any kind of 164 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: problem whatsoever. The you know, this huge, massive million balloons 165 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: didn't disperse at all. They just started to move together. 166 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: And when you see footage of this stuff like like 167 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: all over Lake Erie or coming down in fields and 168 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: stuff like that, it's just it's insane, how many different 169 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: how many balloons there really are just right back down 170 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: on the ground a minute or so after they were 171 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: really east. Oh yeah, they're coming down in the lake, 172 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: They're coming down in the Cayugar River. Uh, They're they're 173 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: coming down wherever they want to come down. And like 174 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: we said, the one lady sued I think for a 175 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars for those Arabian horses undisclosed settlement. Um. 176 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: The Burke Lakefront Airport had to shut down for half 177 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: an hour. Uh. There were traffic collisions on the highways. Uh. 178 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: And then there was one sort of genuinely sad story 179 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: because of some lost fishermen that the Coast Guard had 180 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: to suspend their search and rescue for because of these balloons. Yeah, 181 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: these two guys, um Raymond Broderick and Bernard Solzer had 182 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: gone They've gone out fishing in like a little open boat, 183 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: and their boat was discovered later, but they weren't they 184 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: were nowhere to be seen. So the coast Guard was 185 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: looking for them out on Lake Erie, which normally Um 186 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: they they may very well have found them, because there's 187 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: not really many things that are saying orange like a 188 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: life jacket or you know, like white like a head 189 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: or something bobbing around in Lake Erie under normal circumstances. 190 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: Because so many of these balloons came down and just 191 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: landed still inflated on the lake. The coast guard was like, 192 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: I can't I can't see anything. Everything looks like an 193 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: orange life fester at somebody's head bobbing. And they actually 194 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: had to, like you said, call off the search because 195 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: they were just getting nowhere they couldn't differentiate anything from 196 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: the balloons. Yeah, the whole thing costs five hundred thousand dollars. 197 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: I think that woman's I think the one of the 198 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: wives of the fishermen actually sued um and again, uh 199 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: financially not disclosed settlement, so we really don't know about 200 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: these terms of these settlements. But they did spend five 201 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in the whole thing on top of these settlements. 202 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: So the whole thing just makes me feel terrible for 203 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: the United Way, for Cleveland, for George Fraser. It just 204 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: it's just a sad story, It really is, especially when 205 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: you watch some of like the news footage from that day. Um, 206 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: they were so happy, they were so excited, like they 207 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: genuinely were like, this is going to turn the page 208 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: for Cleveland, Like this will change Cleveland forever for the better. 209 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: This one thing, which is pretty questionable, you know, like 210 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: putting that much stock into a balloon release in a 211 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: world record, which they did get by the way. They 212 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: did a Guinness recognize them as the largest balloon release ever. Um, 213 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: but it's still like they were they were trying to 214 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: undo one, um terrible reputation for an environmental disaster, the 215 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: Coyahoga River catching fire, and they ended up replacing it 216 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: with another notorious environmental disaster. These a million and a 217 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: half balloons just clogging up everything and screwing things up. Yeah, 218 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: and uh, I think many lessons were learned that day. 219 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: They really weren't. Don't release a million and a half 220 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: balloons all at once. Have you got anything else? I 221 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: got nothing else. I love you, Cleveland. 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