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The big play at the end 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: of the game in overtime, Tyron Tracy fumbles the football 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: knocked away by Ashawn Robinson sets up a Joe Pinero 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: game winning field goal from thirty six. D Eddie Panaro 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: s army thirty six yard field goal to win the 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: game for the Panthers in overtime, joined by Johnathan can 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: see us back and he saw that for New Jersey. 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: But j C. 19 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: This game isn't about what happened in overtime. It's about 20 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: the missed opportunities along the way. It's about the two 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: red zone turnovers. It's about getting over a midfield, trying 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: the flee flicker, getting sacked and not scoring any points. 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: It's about the. 24 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: Graam gonna missfield goal earlier in that first half, the 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Giants got into scoring position many times and they could 26 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: never get enough points on the board. You finish with seventeen, 27 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: you have a turnover late, you lose the turnover battle again, 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: and that's the ball game. 29 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. Man, missed opportunities the entire game, you know, 30 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: starting from that first offensive possession all the way down 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: to the first offensive possession in overtime. You know, the Giants, 32 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: you know, figured out a way to lose this game. 33 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: You know, and I hate to be able to say 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: that week in and week out, but that's what they're doing. 35 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: You know. They put themselves in position to win. They 36 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: put themselves in position to be competitive. And yeah, it 37 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: was a competitive game. A lot of mistakes on both sides, 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: but the Giants has failed to do it when it 39 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: really mattered, which was the last few plays of the game. 40 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and just again, bolt of all opportunities. Jac This 41 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: is a Panthers team that you look at pretty much 42 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: any metric. This was one of the worst defenses in 43 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: the National Football League, given up thirty plus a game. 44 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: Look at DVOA eplout whatever number of metric advanced simple standard. 45 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: You want to look at this Panther defense that struggled 46 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: all year long, and the Giants to score seventeen points. 47 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: And again, they didn't move the ball great, but they 48 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: moved it well enough to certainly score more than seventeen. 49 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: They had over three hundred yards of offense in the game. 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: But seventeen points against a defense like this that has 51 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: struggled is simply not enough. 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: No, not at all, you know. And that's the thing 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: about the Giants offense. We talked about it going into 54 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: the game today. You know, the Giants are only scoring 55 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 3: fifteen points a game, you know, seventeen You know, that's 56 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: not gonna win too many games. As a defender every 57 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: single week, if you hold a team to seventeen points, 58 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: you give yourself a chance to win, you know. And 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: the Giants literally are averaging two points less than that. 60 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: And today I didn't think they looked terrible today, but 61 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: it was pretty much standard with how they've been looking 62 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: for the year. You know, they're not looking any better 63 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: theok they don't look like they've they've improved. And now 64 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: Tyrone Tracy has been a bright spot throughout the season 65 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: for the Giants. He was a bright spot today, but 66 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: then at the end he ended up, you know, losing 67 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: that that fumble at the end, and for me, it's like, 68 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 3: I don't know, predictable calls, you know what I mean, 69 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: Like at the end of the game situation, you know, 70 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: I mean, it's tough to watch and you just trying 71 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: to figure out how do the Giants get out of 72 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: this losing situation that they're in. You know, it's like 73 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: they're in competitive games, you know, besides the Philly Devoi 74 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: Eagle game in the last month or two, you know, 75 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: but every single game they figured out a way or 76 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: the other teams figured out a way to win games 77 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: from the Giants when they're close, you know, taking this 78 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: team to overtime, they're close, they get the ball first, 79 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: they're still close, but then they end up giving it away. 80 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 3: They have to figure out a way how to turn 81 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: this around because as of right now, it's going downhill 82 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: and it's rolling really fast. 83 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: Let's take a time out. 84 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Tonight's game breakdown was brought to you by our local 85 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: Ford stores. One Engine drives this team. For current offers, 86 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: visit Byford now dot com. Forward official truck of the 87 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: Giants timeout. We'll come back. Brian Dable at the podium. 88 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: That and a whole lot more as you continue right here. 89 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: Giants fall to the Panthers in overtime in Munich, Germany, 90 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen. 91 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 4: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN 92 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 4: Giants Radio Network. 93 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: We're back here on Giants extra Point. 94 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: John sh Belk Jonathan Casias with you all to the 95 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: Panthers in overtime twenty to seventeen. As the Giants fall 96 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: in overtime, awaitning Brian Dable at the podium. Johnathan casiis 97 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: back in the studio in East Rutherford, New Jersey, and JC. 98 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: What can you say about the defense in this game? 99 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: You look at their overall numbers again, I think the 100 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: rushing defense is something that you have to look at. 101 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: They've given up one hundred and eighty eight yards on 102 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: the ground in this game. Just a situation where the 103 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: Giants cannot stop the run. 104 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, when you talk physicality, when you talk about establishing, 105 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: you know, your physical presence on the football field, it 106 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: all starts up front, It all starts with it. Can 107 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: you run a football? Can you stop the run, and 108 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: the Giants haven't been able to do that. You know, 109 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers have had success running the football this year. 110 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 3: Hubbard has had success. He's had a good year so far. 111 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: Going into this game, you know it was averaging four 112 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: point eight four point nine yards of carry. But today, 113 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: you know, young quarterback in Bryce Young, who has played 114 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: well the last two weeks, got his first victory formation 115 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: last week. You knew coming into this game that they 116 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: were going to rely heavily on the run because Bryce 117 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: Young goes if he can run the football with that 118 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: running back, and also the play action pass that it 119 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: comes off of the running game. So you knew going 120 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: into this game that you had to do a good 121 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: job against the run, knowing that and still allowing that 122 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: many rushing yards, allowing them to run it later in 123 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: the game. And look, Hubbard fumbled, but he fumbled because 124 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: he tours me up, you know, So it's not like 125 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: somebody stripped the ball out. He got hurt and he 126 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: dropped the ball again. Remember I talked about it in pregame, 127 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: take the ball away. He gave the ball to the Giants. 128 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: That doesn't happen that often, right, The Giants defensively. If 129 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: they don't figure out how to stop teams, the offense 130 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: is not good enough to put enough points on the 131 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: board to score and beat most teams in the NFL. 132 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: Like I said, they only averaging fifteen points a game. 133 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: Scoring seventeen points in five quarters of football is not 134 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 3: gonna cut it against almost any team in the NFL. 135 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look the hell, Bryce Young JC to just 136 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty five or one hundred and twenty six 137 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown today did the job there, But 138 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: you can look at it. It's the turnovers again. The 139 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: Giants have not won the turnover battle in any individual 140 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: game this year. They've been even in some of them, 141 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: but they've either they've never won it. And this is 142 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: another game today, Bryce Young no interceptions. The Giants still 143 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: just have one interception on the year. The Giants have 144 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: the Tracy fumble, the two Daniel Jones interceptions, both of 145 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: which happened in the red zone. The Tracy fumble gives 146 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: the Panthers deep in their territory. So the Giants are 147 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: minus two in total ratie who's by three in overtime. 148 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: That's the ball game. It's that simple. That's the ball game. 149 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: Yep. And that is the number one indicator of winning 150 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: wins and losses throughout the league. Is that turnover ratio, 151 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: that takeaway turnover situation that the Giants cannot figure out. 152 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: You know, last year they did a pretty good job 153 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: at it, if I'm not mistaken, they were number one 154 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: in the league in turnovers. So the Giants, they're not 155 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: playing good enough football to not win the turnover battle, 156 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: you know, smokey like if they were even. But there's 157 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: you know, three hundred points, three hundreds, give me three 158 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: hundred yards a game, you know, one hundred and fifty 159 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: rushing yards, and they're scoring twenty something points a game. 160 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: They can afford to do that. But you have to 161 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: figure out a way if your offense is not scoring points, 162 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: your defense is given a lot of rushing yards, you 163 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: have to figure out a way to take the ball away. 164 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: And I keep saying that because it requires an extra effort. 165 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: Not a lot of people are just gonna give you 166 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: the ball. Not a lot of quarterbacks are gonna throw 167 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: you the ball, you know. And I hate coming down 168 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: on Daniel, but in critical situations, even today, that pass, 169 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: that Jewel intercept intercepted, that was an all out blitz. 170 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: He had to get the ball out early. But the 171 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: ball placement something that I continuously talk about with him. 172 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: It was on the back shoulder of Tracy that enabled 173 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: Jewel to intercept the ball. 174 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: I mean, the ball hit time with Tracy in the face. 175 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: I understand. 176 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: The ball wasn't the perfect spot the ball hit time 177 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: or Tracy in the face mask. 178 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: I understand. But he's putting guys in tough situations that 179 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: they have to make incredible catches to not turn the 180 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 3: ball over, you know. And and that's what we're seeing 181 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: time in and time out. You know. It's not a 182 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: one off play schmoke, you know what I mean, Like, 183 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: I get it. When it hits your hands, you gotta 184 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: catch it. We've been talked that since the first grade, 185 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: you know, so I get it. But this is a 186 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: quarterback who six year you know, he's been in it. 187 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: He does throw the ball accurately between the ashes at times, 188 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: I think he gets himself in trouble sometimes if he 189 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: has to rush, which he had to do on that 190 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: at last interception because it was an all out blitz, 191 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: and also when he kind of has to sit back 192 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: and he has time and they're playing zone or soft 193 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: coverage and he has to make decisions. That's where you 194 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 3: see the ball come out a little late. Maybe it's accurate, 195 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: but it's a little late. And then those plays where 196 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: he has to rush, those are where we see some 197 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: inaccuracies when its feet are on set and he has 198 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: to throw off his back foot. 199 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a bigger issue, to be honest with you, 200 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: on the final offensive. Next to last offensive visited the 201 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: first half when Wando Robinson is wide open on the 202 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: numbers and he throws it short and it's a skip 203 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: to a pass, and that's a ball where I really 204 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: think you can be fairly critical. I think of the 205 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: ball location on a pass like that. All right, quick 206 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: time out, Well, have more from downstairs. We'll have everybody 207 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: at the podium when we return here on Giants Section 208 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: four to get an overtime lost Giants fall to the 209 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: Panthers twenty to seventeen in overtime. 210 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: Listening to Giants Extra Point on the w f A 211 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: N Giants Radio network. 212 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 2: We're back here on Giants Extra Point. 213 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: Brian Davids press conference is brought to you by Hackensack 214 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: Bridy in health, Keep getting Better. Here's Brian dab at 215 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: the podium. 216 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 5: No, No, I thought we could get something going, which 217 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 5: we did. 218 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 6: Started out slow, had some opportunities there, but did not. 219 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 6: Where do you here, Yeah, I'll say Jordan, obviously we're 220 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 6: not where we want to be. We'll go back, we'll 221 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 6: have our bye week, we'll evaluate things, and bye week 222 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 6: do the things we need to do. We'll practice a 223 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 6: couple of days next week and you'll evaluate evaluate everything. Yeah, 224 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 6: I wish I had it back. 225 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, just sh had it back. Didn't didn't work. 226 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 6: Your guys, Yeah, I wish I wish I would have 227 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 6: wish I had it back. 228 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 5: Bad coaching, What you tell the gods? I'm sorry. 229 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, you know you never want to turn the 230 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 6: football over, and he knows that. But the job is 231 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 6: to make sure we maintain possession of the ball. So 232 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 6: we'll look at the reason why it happened. The ball handling, 233 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 6: good play by the defense, but you know we can't 234 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 6: can't turn the ball over in this league three times 235 00:11:51,240 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 6: and expect a different outcome. Whether No, we pretty much 236 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 6: had a normal, normal Friday and Saturday. Again, it was 237 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 6: a great atmosphere. The people here were were awesome. Just 238 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 6: don't get the outcome we want. 239 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm I'm not gonna reflect on the season. 240 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 6: We just lost a tough game and certain plays everybody 241 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 6: would like to have back and you know, long trip 242 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 6: back and we'll have a bye week here and make 243 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 6: the most of it. 244 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 7: Progress. 245 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say there's certain things we're doing better. The 246 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 6: record isn't what it needs to be, but we'll go back, 247 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 6: we'll evaluate, we'll do the things we need to do 248 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 6: to uh, you know, finish up strong and second half 249 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 6: of the season. 250 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 7: Yeah. 251 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 6: One of the toss uh came out and fumbled it 252 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 6: on the first play. 253 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: How do you think happened enough to day? 254 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 6: Go back watch the tape. I thought, you know, the 255 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 6: line ran the ball well and protect it. 256 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 7: Well. 257 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, go back and go back and evaluate. 258 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: It, right ass Tracy? 259 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, the interception was it a forest row? No, they 260 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 6: blitz he was throwing hot and then guy who made 261 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 6: a good play. Yeah, i'm'na go back and and watch 262 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 6: the tape. 263 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 7: Did you you have to throw it out further in 264 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 7: front of the name. 265 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll go back and I'll go back and look 266 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 5: at it. 267 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: Again. 268 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 5: Two turnovers down in the red zone. We can't have those. 269 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 7: What would you what was the thought process. 270 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 6: Uh Google there like, Yeah, it was just it was 271 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 6: you know, we had our line for the start of 272 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 6: the game and it was beyond the line. 273 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 8: Client he didn't seem. 274 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 6: No clanie made a nice play, batted the ball up 275 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,359 Speaker 6: and again turn the ball over twice down the red zone. 276 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 7: U can't have that. Yeah. 277 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 6: Again, the you like Dexter out there all the time, 278 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 6: but you know there's some plays that he's not out there. 279 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 6: The play time and who's in and who's out. 280 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna, you know, elaborate on that, but. 281 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I'm with you. Yep. Yeah, that was one 282 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 7: of the keys. 283 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 5: Is you know, we knew they were gonna run the football. 284 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 6: I thought they attacked the edge as well on a 285 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 6: couple of plays, made some explosive plays in that area. 286 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 5: I mean a hundred and eighty hours or whatever. 287 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 6: It was one hundred and ninety yards rushing, almost six 288 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 6: yards of carry and. 289 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 5: A couple of those raided by big plays. 290 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 6: On the edge of the defense. And you know something 291 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 6: we gotta be better at. No, Yeah, I believe we 292 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 6: got the right people. Again, results aren't aren't there yet. 293 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 6: We just lost a tough game. Got to tighten up 294 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 6: quite a bit of things, some situational football. The turnovers 295 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 6: got us today. But we'll go back, we'll go to 296 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 6: work and you know, make improvements that we need to make. 297 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 298 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 6: I'm just focused on our football team and we're gonna 299 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 6: do the best shot we can and give everything we 300 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 6: got to improve the areas we need to improve. 301 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 9: Quarter approach that. 302 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say, Look, we got a lot of work 303 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 6: to do here in the next few days, the next week, 304 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 6: and we'll we'll evaluate where we're. 305 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 7: At and what we need to do. 306 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 5: Excuse me, how did I see Tracy's. 307 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 7: Day? Yeah? It made nice. 308 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 6: You know, he made some nice plays like he normally does. 309 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 6: And obviously you'd like to have that play back there at. 310 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 5: To start overtime. Moe, he fumbled the returner, the one 311 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 5: the returner fumbled. 312 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, he muffed it. Yeah, I just thoughted was the 313 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 7: right thing to do. Yeah. 314 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 6: Like I said, uh, you know, we had a we 315 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 6: had a good trip here. I really appreciate all the people, 316 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 6: you know, whether it's a hotel, the police, soccer club, 317 00:16:59,400 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 6: very hospital. 318 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 5: It's not the result we want it. 319 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: That's Brian Dable at the podium after the Giants twenty 320 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: seventeen overtime loss to the Carolina Panthers. 321 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: Josh Broke, Johnathan you can see us. I'm in Munich. 322 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: Jacy's back at the facility in East other for New Jersey. 323 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick time. I will come back. 324 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: We'll hear from the players at the podium that more 325 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: Giants football is brought to you by a local Ford stores. 326 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: One engine drives this team for current offerss at Byford 327 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: Now dot com. Ford Official truck of the Giants will 328 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: be right back. 329 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 4: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN 330 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 4: Giants radio network. 331 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 10: This is Daniel Jones and you're listening to the radio 332 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 10: home of Big Blue the Fan WFAN and Wfan FM, 333 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 10: New York. 334 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 11: Heavy formation to each side, Jones back fakes the path. 335 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 12: Runs to his left outracing the defensive end for the tuxbown. 336 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 8: They showed up. 337 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 12: There's athleticism there on a naked bootleg. 338 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: And it looked like the defender had the hang of it. 339 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 12: Jones was the better athlete and he beat Cam Gill 340 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 12: to the pylon. 341 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: That was the culmination of a thirteen play, ninety six 342 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: yard drive for the New York Giants. Daniel Jones with 343 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: the touchdown run and that pulled the Giants to within three, 344 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: seventeen to fourteen. John Schmelke here on Giants Extra Point 345 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: live from Munich at Aleon Stadium, home of Biern Football 346 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: Club Biern Munich Football Club and a very very tough 347 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen loss the New York Football Giants losing 348 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: overtime to the Carolina Panthers. Jonathan Casillez back there in 349 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: the facility, and Jasey hadn't mean to jump on me 350 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: on that DJ pick. Look, we'd have a monitor in here, 351 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: so I honestly I saw it live. I did not 352 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: see a good replay of the play, honestly. I just 353 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: thought that wasn't the best example of that both placement, 354 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: to be totally honestly, I thought you used. 355 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 3: A good example. The example you used the pastor Robinson 356 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: where he was kind of open. I wouldn't say wide. 357 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: Open, but oh he was very open. 358 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 3: He was very open, and Daniel was like four yards 359 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 3: five yards short, you know. And look the Giants the 360 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 3: last two week s, Milk, they've dug themselves into deep 361 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: holes in the first half. And it's not all bad football. 362 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: It's just when they get into certain situations, whether it's 363 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: third down or red zone, they just can't figure out 364 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: how to convert in those situations. Right, Like, if you 365 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 3: look at the first drive that the Giants had first off, 366 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 3: you get a three and out right away Burns had 367 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: a sack. This is looking like this is about to 368 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 3: be a good game for Burns. It's about to be 369 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 3: one of those type of dominating type of games against 370 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 3: the guy's older team, the little revenge. Right then the 371 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 3: Giants get the DPI on the first play that they have, 372 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: and then on third and eight, I don't know, like 373 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: I've never seen Daniel miss like that since the first 374 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 3: pass he threw last year when he came back off 375 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 3: an injury to Sakuan Remember that, oh, the one. 376 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: Over neighbors Head, you're talking that one? 377 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: And then and then, like I could literally go to 378 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: every drive and there's something that they did. And it's 379 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: not always about mistakes. It's more like just not the 380 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 3: right execution, just not quite yet right. And and little 381 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 3: things like this smoke that really get me because if 382 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 3: the Giants want to start winning games, they have to 383 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 3: do the little things better. Right. So on the second 384 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: possession that they had, right they end up punting the ball. 385 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: It was fourth and eight and they drew the Panthers 386 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: off sides. Why would you do that if you weren't 387 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 3: gonna like punt the ball, you know, I mean, it's 388 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: not punt the ball, go for it on fourth, you 389 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, why waste that false start? Well, 390 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: I'm seeing me. Uh it was a defensive neutral zone 391 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: in fraction. I'm sorry that they caused. Why not wait 392 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: until it's a fourth and two situation, fourth and three 393 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: situation to get them to jump off sides? Now you 394 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 3: get that first down. They did it for nothing, and 395 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: like those little plays smoke. You know, I'm real ornery 396 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: about those plays like that that people really don't talk 397 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 3: about because. 398 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: Hey, JC, Yeah, I'm sorry. Daniel Jones is the podium. 399 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: I want to get down to him when he starts, 400 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: All right, lad Daniel Jones down stairs. A player of 401 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: press conference brought to you by met Life, Official Insurance 402 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: Company of the Giants. 403 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean not good enough. 404 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 13: Anytime you turn the ball over twice in the red zone, Yeah. 405 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 7: Not good enough. No, I mean he played a good game, 406 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 7: had some big time runs for us. 407 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 13: The touchdown was a big run, you know, He's hard 408 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 13: on himself and expects a lot, so I think you 409 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 13: just pick him. 410 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 7: Up and encourage him. Played a great game. He was 411 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 7: he was big time for us today. What's up? 412 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 13: Look back and see what I need to do to improve. 413 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 13: Focus on that. You know, I'll be fine. I just 414 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 13: got to focus on. 415 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 7: What I need to do and and uh and do it. Yeah, 416 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 7: threw hot off the blitzer. Go back and look at it. 417 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 7: Probably need to put the ball in front more. 418 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 10: Yeah. 419 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 13: Well, obviously the turnover in the first half in the 420 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 13: red zone hurt us. I don't know. I mean, I 421 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 13: think we just caught more of a rhythm, started executing better, 422 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 13: executed on third down better. 423 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 7: We'll go back and look at the rest of it. 424 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 13: But yeah, just we gotta gotta get off to a 425 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 13: faster start and and uh, stay on the field. Sustained 426 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 13: drives in the first half. Experience, Yeah, I think it's 427 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 13: a it's a cool experience to be able to play 428 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 13: over here. Uh, you know, it's a cool stadium. Crowd 429 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 13: was good. Obviously, we gotta play better. 430 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 7: N about the. 431 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 14: Disease and especially when it comes to concussions and the brain. 432 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think. 433 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 13: The league's put a heavy emphasis on that in the 434 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 13: last few years. And uh, that's something you know, you 435 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 13: talk about a lot. You know, we've introduced the guardian 436 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 13: can apps and I think that's helped in practices. But yeah, 437 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 13: certainly aware of it and try to educate yourself as. 438 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 7: Best as possible. 439 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 13: But everyone who plays understands the you know, the risks 440 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 13: of playing to that. 441 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 8: So when you hear one of. 442 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 13: You play, like I said, it's some we're certainly aware 443 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 13: of as as players. And and yeah, so you think 444 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 13: about it and and certainly aware of it. So you've 445 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 13: got to do your best to you know, playing quarterback, 446 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 13: particularly protect yourself when you're running and protect your head. 447 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 13: But you know, people you know understand the risks when 448 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 13: they're playing and. 449 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 7: And uh accept those. 450 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 13: When we're out there playing, I think just evaluate, uh 451 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 13: what we haven't done well enough, what's holding us back? 452 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 7: See where I need to be better and where I 453 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 7: can help the team. 454 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 13: So yeah, I think, uh that's the mindset we all 455 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 13: need to take going into. 456 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 7: This second half of the season. 457 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 4: And one how can you. 458 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think I just got to execute 459 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 7: in critical situations. 460 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 13: I think the turnover turnover today I killed us, you know, 461 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 13: there's been other things that have held us back and 462 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 13: other you know, other close games. So we got to 463 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 13: look at where we're uh, where we're coming up short. 464 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 13: And you know, I'm not sure it's one thing consistently. 465 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 13: I think, you know, several things, and and we gotta, uh, 466 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 13: you know, every game be dout in on all those 467 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 13: critical things that determine win and winning and losing. 468 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 15: Thanks. 469 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: That's Daniel Jones at the podium. 470 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: Giants Football is brought to you by Verizon, the official 471 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: five G network of the New York Giants. Verizon America's 472 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: most reliable network will have more players at the podium 473 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: coming up as well. 474 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: But Jase, you just want to wrap up the Daniel 475 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: Jones conversation. 476 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: He finished a game twenty two to thirty seven, one 477 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: hundred ninety yards, two interceptions against the Panthers defense that 478 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: their past defense advance numbers, whether you're looking at EPA 479 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: or pass TV away, whatever a number you want to 480 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: look at, was near the bottom of the league. That 481 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: is simply not enough production through the pass game. And 482 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: obviously the Giants heading to the bye week now, and 483 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: Brian Dabeles said to evaluate everything at the bye week. 484 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: It's just a situation where you need to get more 485 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: out of the offense. The offenses is led by the quarterback, 486 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: and twenty two to thirty seven for one to ninety 487 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 1: against his defense is probably below what both of us 488 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: thought this offense was capable of heading into this game, 489 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: given the Panthers defense so far this year. 490 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, and given that, you know, they were able to 491 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 3: run the ball pretty efficiently throughout the game. You know 492 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 3: that goes can't hand to hand, and what I think 493 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: the Giants want to do offensively with Daniel Jones run 494 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: the ball, you know, with Tracy Singletary has some good 495 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: runs in there too, and even Daniel Jones, you know, 496 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 3: off the you know the misdirection, you know, play action 497 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: and then he'll you know, naked or whatever the case is, 498 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: design runs scrambles or whatever it is. And then the 499 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 3: play action pass game off of that it worked, meaning 500 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 3: the running game was working. Now you have to execute 501 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 3: in the play action passing game. Right the fleet flicker 502 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: happened wide open, Wandelle Robinson and I know Daniel Jones 503 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 3: gonna get some heat about that, but rightfully, so, you know, 504 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 3: plays like that, you only get those once a year, 505 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 3: you know, I don't remember the last time the Giants 506 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: pulled out a trick play like that on offense. And 507 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 3: if it opportunity presents itself, okay, take advantage of it. 508 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: But it was open. That was the play to make. 509 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 3: And with Wandell with his catch run after the ability 510 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 3: run after the catch ability, he probably could have made 511 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: the guy missing scored. The only person left out was 512 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 3: a safety. The Giants keep digging themselves in holes in 513 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: the first half to where the second half, every single 514 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 3: possession matters, every single possession is critiqued because of the 515 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: first half hole that they dug themselves in. Now that's 516 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 3: two weeks in a row that they did that. I'm 517 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 3: not looking at the prior games. I'm just looking at 518 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: the last two weeks, and they did it successfully running 519 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: the ball in both of those games, well, at least 520 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: the first game. I'm talking about the Commanders running for 521 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 3: one hundred and something yards in the first half, but 522 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 3: they're down twenty one to seven, and then now you know, 523 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: moving the ball how they were in the first half 524 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: and then being down ten to zero. The Giants they 525 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: don't have enough firepower to dig themselves out of holes. 526 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: And this is a Panthers team that's not improved. This 527 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: is not an improved Panthers team. This team had a 528 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: lot of penalties. They ran the ball well, but a 529 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 3: lot of teams ran the ball well against the Giants. 530 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 3: They had ten penalties, They made a lot of mistakes, 531 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: they didn't convert a lot. So this is a This 532 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: is not a new Panthers team. This is the same 533 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: Panthers team that came into the game two and seven. 534 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: This is not a new Panthers team that just beat 535 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: the Saints. Now they're a new team. They're the same team. 536 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: They just beat two teams that are playing at their level. 537 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: And the Giants they're they're not. They can't they're not 538 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: executing at the right times during situation like situational football. 539 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: Well red zone specifically, right, I mean yeah. 540 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: And at the end of games, end of halves, you know, 541 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: like they're just not getting the points where they need 542 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: because you know, you can't just wait to the second 543 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: half to turn on the points. You know, That's what 544 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 3: the Giants did the last two weeks, and they made 545 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: it competitive, But it would have been a different game 546 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: if situationally, it would have went better for them in 547 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: the first half and they would have converted. They missed 548 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: a field goal early, you know, the flea flicker happened early. 549 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: And then now the second half they get a touchdown, 550 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 3: they start moving the bass like cool. If you would 551 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 3: have did anything in the first half, this game would 552 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: have been totally different. 553 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 554 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: And the Panthers had not shut a team out in 555 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: any half of football this year. First half, four second half. 556 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 3: Ins from this game game smoke. 557 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't see that's that which has been thirty 558 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: six games, six games. I was going through their schedule 559 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: and I did it manually for this year. 560 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: I didn't go back that far. I didn't have to 561 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: touch the two that year. 562 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 16: Yeah. 563 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, that is uh not where you want to be. 564 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: So the Giants need to get better offensively, and again 565 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: they fall to the Carolina Panthers in this game, twenty 566 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: to seventeen in overtime. For all your office, industrial and 567 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: residential movie needs, trust Clancy Relocation and Logistics, the official 568 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: moving and relocation partner of the New York Giants. Visit 569 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: Clancy Moving dot com. Plenty more reaction from the locker 570 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: room in the podium. When we return again overtime lost, 571 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: Giants fall to two and nine, twenty to seventeen loss 572 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: in ot to the Panthers. 573 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 4: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN 574 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 4: Giants Radio Network. 575 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 17: This is mylik Neighbors and you're listening to the radio 576 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 17: home of Big Blue the Fan, w f N and 577 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 17: w f A n f M, New York. 578 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: Bleak Neighbors is at the podium after the Giants twenty 579 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: to seventeen loss to the Panthers. 580 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 17: Yeah, I did. I went over to you know, because 581 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 17: I know that feeling. You don't kick him in when 582 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 17: he's already downe he know what he did. That feeling 583 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 17: is not a good feeling that you got to carry 584 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 17: over to the week until it's time the next player, 585 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 17: until it's time for you to play the next game. 586 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 18: So you know, I went over there. 587 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 17: I told him, you know, that play doesn't define you, 588 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 17: That one play doesn't lose as a game, you know. 589 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 17: So you know, I went over there. I say, you know, 590 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 17: you played the hell of the game. You know, he 591 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 17: he's scoring, he's he's carrying the ball pretty good for us, 592 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 17: you know, so we feed him the ball. You know, 593 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 17: he got us going in the second half of that score. 594 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 17: So you know he's been doing. 595 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 7: A great job. 596 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 17: You know he's pep preparing right, so you know, you 597 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 17: don't kick him man when he's already done. So I 598 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 17: shared a couple of words with him, just to you know, 599 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 17: lift his courage. But you know, like I said, no 600 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 17: many how many times people come up to you and 601 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 17: tell you it's not your fault. You still got that 602 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 17: feeling inside that you know it's your fault. But like 603 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 17: I told him, it's not his fault. 604 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: What you got, you got your I'll call you guys. 605 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 7: I was very confident. I mean I went up to Daves. 606 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 17: I said, you know, if it's anybody, if it's anybody 607 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 17: to give the ball to when we get past and 608 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 17: to score it, I said, let it be me. I said, 609 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 17: you know, I i'm'a put it on my back or rather, 610 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 17: anything goes right or wrong, I'm ready to take it off. 611 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 17: So just just put it on me. 612 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 3: You ask you this last few. 613 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 14: Years, but. 614 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 17: Uh mix emotions, frustration, then want to try and fix it, 615 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 17: try and get better. But as a group, you know, 616 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 17: you can't point the fingers at each other. It takes 617 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 17: eleven minut on that field to win a game. It 618 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 17: takes twenty two offense and defense for you to win 619 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 17: that game, plus special team. So we gotta find a 620 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 17: ways to win. When you know we get Therety, we 621 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 17: gotta find our way to you know, stop turnovers, get 622 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 17: the offense going. You know, our defense has been playing 623 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 17: a good jobs. It's hard for our defense to keep 624 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 17: going out there tired, trying to get stops in. Our 625 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 17: offense is not putting points up. So we gotta do 626 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 17: a better job of playing complimentary football, doing doing good 627 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 17: stuff on offense, doing good stuff on defense, and you know, 628 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 17: carrying each other, picking each other up. And that's how 629 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 17: that's how you lead, That's how you gain a team, 630 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 17: that's how you gain a family. I mean it's yes, 631 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 17: it's good to just you know, get your body back right. 632 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 17: Look at the old film, see what we need to 633 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 17: increase on. That's really it. So oh yeah, I got 634 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 17: sent to the sent to the tent just to receive 635 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 17: portocol about that. You know, they they saw me get up, 636 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 17: you know, grab my head, and they just wanted to, 637 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 17: you know, make precautions to my safety. 638 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 8: You know. 639 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 17: Yeah. I mean when you look at it, I mean 640 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 17: you can see that we were open. But it's many 641 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 17: things that's going on in Daniel's face that you know, 642 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 17: us receivers don't see. We just out there running our route. 643 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 17: We see that we open, but slid. Things going on 644 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 17: in the backfield that you know we don't know. I mean, 645 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 17: you give the ball to the running back defense Clyde 646 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 17: down so they all blitzing you flick it back and 647 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 17: it's just you know us in you know us in coverage. 648 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 17: But you know it's a lot things going on back 649 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 17: there with Daniel, So, I mean I asked him about it. 650 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 17: He said, you know, he couldn't see us. 651 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 15: You know. 652 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 17: So, I mean, that's that's the play. 653 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 3: And you got. 654 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 7: I'm wondering if you're. 655 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: Concerned at all. 656 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 7: Us. 657 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 17: I don't feel like answering that question. I mean it 658 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 17: c it comes with the sport. I mean, you gonna 659 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 17: hit your head. I mean that's just the game that 660 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 17: we play. We signed up for that. 661 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 18: Do you think. 662 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 7: The rest. 663 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 19: And such as think that's. 664 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 17: Not I mean, never have people with concussions on the 665 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 17: Guardian camp. I mean we continue to make better hemmels 666 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 17: for our safety. But that just comes with the game. 667 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 17: You gonna hit your heads, gonna be head to head contact. 668 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 17: It's football. It's what we signed up for I'm I mean, 669 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 17: the the league has been doing a great job. But 670 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 17: just you know, when we hit our head, they take 671 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 17: us out, go get protocol, even if something that's wrong 672 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 17: with us, Like you know, I hit my head today. 673 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 17: Nothing news wrong with me. I just got up, you 674 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 17: know a little bit like a days ago. But they 675 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 17: have been doing a great job of just you know, 676 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 17: having our safety, having our back, making sure we straight 677 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 17: on in our future. 678 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 18: Home. 679 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 17: I mean nah, I mean it hurts. You know, another loss, 680 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 17: losing season. I mean it hurts. The biggest thing is 681 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 17: putting it behind you. The game is over. Can't go 682 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 17: back and play the game. Take that ride home. Look 683 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 17: on the film, look on the on the flight, just 684 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 17: look at the film, evaluate myself, try to see on 685 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 17: things that I can work on to help the team. 686 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 7: That's really it. 687 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 2: That is mylik neighbors at the podium. 688 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: Elite Neighbors in this game finished with six catches for 689 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: fifty yards JC just one yard off, leading all players 690 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: in receiving yards. So that that got us on the 691 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: factor fiction in the pregame, bro we got that one wrong. 692 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 2: Datino took us on that one. 693 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: Tonight's Statistics brought to you by the Archdiocese of New York. 694 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 1: Learn more at cardinals appeal dot org. For the Giants 695 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 1: I mentioned Neighbors six catches fifty yards, Rondo Rominson five 696 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: catches fifty one yards, four catches for Jalen Hyatt with 697 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: two big catches on that final drive and regulation to 698 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: tie the game with that field goal four catches thirty 699 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: nine yards, and Theo Johnson four catches thirty seven yards. 700 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: More stats, But first exter Lawrence is at the podium downstairs. 701 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 2: Let's listen in. 702 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 20: If you watched the game, we was beating them on 703 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 20: the line. He just threw the ball before we can 704 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 20: get there. 705 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 11: Than you. 706 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 20: Really just evaluate yourself before you start pointing fingers or 707 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 20: starting clicks or you know stuff like that. You know 708 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 20: it's a young team and you know that could happen 709 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,959 Speaker 20: really easily if the leaders don't jump on top of it. 710 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 20: So the message is evaluate yourself and see what you 711 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 20: can do better and be critical of yourself this week 712 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 20: when you watch tape. 713 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 9: Does happen? 714 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 20: Nah, it's not anything I've seen, but you know it's 715 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 20: it could happen. You know, it's it's the nature of humans. 716 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 17: That's uh. 717 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 20: Yeah, we we spoke on the in the locker room. Yeah, 718 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 20: well as a team. 719 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,439 Speaker 16: Yeah, you uh. 720 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 15: The round? 721 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 21: What what do you what you do on? 722 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 7: You just gotta do better on the edges. 723 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 20: Uh, you know with the cracked tosses they they was 724 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 20: getting oh the main play they was getting yards on 725 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 20: and the only player really uh, we just gotta do 726 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 20: better set in the edge and you know, crack replacing Okay, 727 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 20: Uh yeah, I mean I don't really play a lot 728 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 20: of plays. 729 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 7: I mean I don't play. 730 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 20: A hundred percent and uh d Davante was getting to 731 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 20: start the second half. 732 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 22: How are you getting? 733 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 20: You know where I play and what teams do to me. 734 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 20: You know, I take a lot of of a beating, 735 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 20: they say, uh, but I feel I feel good. This 736 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 20: bad week definitely gonna help. Definitely, not a hundred percent. 737 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 20: I don't think anyone is. But this week is just 738 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 20: for me to get my body right and my mind 739 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 20: right and you know, decompress and come back and be 740 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 20: the guy that the team needs. 741 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 22: Your alan the first part uh huh who was Frenge? 742 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 20: Uh yeah, I mean that's just the way the game 743 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 20: went this time. 744 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 7: Yeah, and so what what what does Truman gross do? 745 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 17: Sty you experience the who the chrumb crass they experience times. 746 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 20: Oh, it was really loud all the time. I really 747 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 20: didn't know what was the ch what the cheering was 748 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 20: for some of the time. 749 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 17: U uh. 750 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 20: But but it was cool. It was cool to play 751 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 20: here and you know, get this experience. The grads wasn't 752 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 20: as bad as I thought it was gonna be. But 753 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 20: it was fun. Uh, just to just to be a 754 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 20: part of you know, uh, the culture excidence. 755 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 23: Uh you games gooing xcgon in dubl EXCD and. 756 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: Then when actually go back to the times when. 757 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 22: You miss the nature. 758 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 20: You said, Dublin, Dublin, that's where's that? See you thought, 759 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 20: oh oh oh oh yeah, how you saction? Oh oh, 760 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 20: I I might wanna just if stay in met life. Okay, yeah, 761 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 20: it's it's it's a long way through during the season 762 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 20: to travel. 763 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 7: Uh, it's a it's a little rough. 764 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 16: In your. 765 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 20: Uh honestly, right now, I I don't know, you know, 766 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 20: we just got off the game, so we haven't really 767 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 20: been able to talk or communicate for real, so I 768 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 20: can't really tell you the psyche the psyche, but my 769 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 20: psyche is to get ready for whoever we play next. 770 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 20: Do all I can to get my mind and body 771 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 20: right and just go out there, just be ready to play. 772 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 20: I think it is, uh, just gotta be comprehended a 773 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 20: little better. Yeah, I I think it's getting through. It's 774 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,240 Speaker 20: just you know, it's critical moments and you gotta understand 775 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 20: what those critical moments are to able to to win 776 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 20: and come out on top. 777 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 15: Mm hmm. 778 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 20: Uh Yeah, It's it's annoying for sure, but I'm not 779 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 20: in other people's heads or brains or I don't know, 780 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 20: maybe gotta be communicated differently or got to hear from 781 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 20: somebody else. 782 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 783 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: So that's Dexter Lawrence at the podium JC. He's one 784 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 1: of the leaders on this defense, one of the captains. 785 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: What was your reaction to what Dexter had to say 786 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: about not just this game, but where this team is 787 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: now sitting at two and eight heading into the by Uh. 788 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 3: I think he was honest, you know, trying to be 789 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 3: you know, self reflective. You know how he has to 790 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 3: improve himself, you know, look at himself, you know, and 791 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 3: before he starts looking at anybody else, you know, you 792 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 3: look at yourself and see what you can do better, 793 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 3: you know. But you know, Dexter is a guy that 794 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 3: plays his heart out every single game. You know, he's 795 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 3: not perfect, you know, but he's a guy that you know, 796 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 3: that you that you look up to, uh in terms 797 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 3: of the younger guys on the team, anybody on the team, 798 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 3: not even just the younger guys, not just because you 799 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 3: know how he talks and how he handles the media, 800 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 3: but the way he plays the game. You know, he 801 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 3: doesn't play every snap, but every single time that he 802 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 3: in he gives one hundred percent, you know. And he 803 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 3: was a little light at the end talking about playing 804 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 3: that MetLife, which was awesome, you know. 805 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: And hey, Dexter JC, real quick, we got Brian Burns's 806 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: fellow defensive lyrier at of course I want to get 807 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: to that. 808 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 2: Here's here's Brian Burns downstairs. 809 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 5: Those are pretty much the main things. 810 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 24: He was just being really patient, you know, he was 811 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 24: waiting to find his uh, his open team, his open gap, 812 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 24: and he was hitting it. So you know, just gotta 813 00:43:53,120 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 24: be more gap disciplined with patient backs like that, uh 814 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 24: or a problem there. 815 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 4: Or so run what do you you got? 816 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 7: Burn Yeah, cracked toss. 817 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 19: You know. 818 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 24: They try I think they try to run one more 819 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 24: on me and then I got a hole and call 820 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 24: on it and whatever. 821 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 15: The case may be. 822 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 24: But yeah, it's those perimeter runs you know, are a 823 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 24: little tricky to fit, uh, especially when it gets you know, 824 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 24: outside of us the end, it's a little tricky to 825 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 24: fit as far as like how the dbats come down 826 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 24: and rotate. 827 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 7: So, uh, we just gotta be a little more dialed 828 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 7: the inn on that. And you know tackle way. 829 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 2: Man, what's something that. 830 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 20: You gotta feel, you be able to feel? 831 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 18: Uh? 832 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 2: Bet all they gave so some injury from the. 833 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 24: Boss jo just uh a fig Uh, it's just a hit. 834 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 24: I think I had like a probably got a deep 835 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 24: contusion or something in my c in my thigh. But 836 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 24: it's nothing, nothing crazy. Just at the moment my my 837 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 24: leg went a little dead. 838 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 9: Do you think you put back? 839 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 4: Yeah? 840 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 17: Why where. 841 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 24: H it's been as It's still the same with me, 842 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 24: you know, take it. Take every day as his own day, 843 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 24: take every game after his own game. You know, it's 844 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 24: a process at the end of the day. Like I said, 845 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 24: I reckon, it ain't gonna change overnight. So you know, 846 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 24: just gotta stick to the process. What have you heard 847 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 24: that should get in there about the message costs, the 848 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 24: compassing like the full lead. 849 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 17: What message So I guess the coach. 850 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 18: Uh. 851 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 24: I got in pretty late. You know, I had a 852 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 24: a lot of familiar faces. I was outside, you know, 853 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 24: talking to Okay, So I got in pretty late. I 854 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 24: might have missed, uh a lot of what they ball said. 855 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 6: Do you think what do. 856 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,879 Speaker 7: You think about the mess. 857 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 24: Tablet, how it's getting uh, the message he gave after 858 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 24: the game. 859 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 18: Just to. 860 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 7: Day or the message that he get in to the 861 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 7: TV to. 862 00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 5: Heard the message graduated? 863 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 15: What game? 864 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 24: The message before the game was you know, detailed, worn 865 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 24: it focused, do your job? Do you want eleven? I 866 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 24: don't know the message after the game. I wasn't I 867 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 24: probably wasn't in there yet. 868 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 22: So you said, yeah, yeah, yeah, it hurt, you know, 869 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 22: losing like that, and you know, losing to a team 870 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 22: I spent you know, extended amount of time with hurt. 871 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 24: And you know, seeing all those faces that was in 872 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 24: the building, you know, was uh a little tough, but 873 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 24: it was straight. 874 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 7: I was happy to see him say it again a life. 875 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 2: Oh. 876 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 7: I enjoyed it. 877 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 3: You know. 878 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 24: They were very interactive throughout the whole game, singing songs, 879 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 24: you know, cheering for stuff that didn't necessity need to 880 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 24: be cheered for. 881 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 7: But it was fun. 882 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 24: You know, I really enjoyed it, you know, so, yeah. 883 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:16,240 Speaker 7: Earlier, I'd probably like to travel earlier. 884 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 24: The only other time I travel was my rookie year 885 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 24: to London, and that was a pretty early game. Uh, 886 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 24: you know, later in the season, it's a little taxing, 887 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 24: you know, with the sleep schedule and everything. You kind 888 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 24: of get in a routine and the kind of throw 889 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 24: you off. But it's kind of good that we got 890 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 24: to buy the bounce back. 891 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: So that is Brian Burns at the podium. Jonathan can 892 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 1: see us back in East Rutherford. You're listening to Giants 893 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: Extra Point on the Giants Radio Network. Giants fall to 894 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 1: the Panthers in overtime twenty to seventeen. I didn't mean din' 895 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: drop your poor JC, And I don't know why I 896 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: called you dexter whe I did, but it's. 897 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 2: A lot of names flying around here, and I thought 898 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 2: out a lot of sleep. Well don't you finished your 899 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 2: thought there? Man, I'm sorry. 900 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 3: Well, I was talking about his you know, his leadership 901 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 3: status with the team, and I think you heard the 902 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 3: other defensive leaders speak just now in Brian Burns, you know, 903 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 3: and look it's it's it's I think the bye week 904 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 3: has come at a perfect time for the giants, you know, 905 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 3: dropping five straight, you know, and as human beings, you know, 906 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 3: it's it's it's tough, you asked the Dexter was asked 907 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:18,720 Speaker 3: about them around. 908 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: Hey, j C, we have we have we have time, Tracy. 909 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: Now I want to go downstairs. Here's Tracy. 910 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean it was hard. You know, I put 911 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 18: a lot into this game, you know, buzz with in tears, 912 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 18: you know, the same everybody say. But like I play 913 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 18: with passion. I feel like you could see it on 914 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 18: the field. I have a lot of energy, and I 915 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 18: hold myself to a high standard. So you know, when 916 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,439 Speaker 18: things like that happened with the game on the line, 917 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 18: you know, and over time we come all the way back, 918 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 18: like you know, that's the last thing on your mind 919 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 18: that you want to happen. So yeah, I feel like 920 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 18: for me, I think, like I said, I hold myself 921 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 18: to the high standards. So when that happened, all all 922 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 18: of my emotions kind of just came out of me 923 00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 18: at that moment. 924 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 3: Option Uh whatever the ball or something you were door, Uh. 925 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 18: Yeah, he just made a good play. I don't know, 926 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 18: he made a good play on the ball. 927 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 3: Like well you Relda maybe the first experience. 928 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 7: Four seats and beautiful. 929 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 18: I mean it was a good experience. You know, the 930 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 18: stadium was amazing. You know, the fans was amazing. You 931 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,760 Speaker 18: know the we went to I think it's called the 932 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 18: City uh Square, went there, you know, walked around. 933 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 3: It was it was good. 934 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 18: It was you know, I he treated me, treating me. 935 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 23: Well, shit on the setting. 936 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,240 Speaker 3: Now you have plays in the poor. 937 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 2: Did you take it at any high school or you know. 938 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 20: You gave yourself off of that or say you don't. 939 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 9: Want to make you play. 940 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 18: I mean, I'm always gonna beat myself up on the 941 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 18: ball in the air, is it my possession or if 942 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 18: you know they hand me the ball, whatever it may be. 943 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 18: You know what I'm saying, like, I'm always trying to 944 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 18: make sure that I'm you know, taking care of it. 945 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 17: Uh. 946 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,439 Speaker 18: But yeah, it was a just a good good play 947 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 18: by him. 948 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,439 Speaker 19: Take your did you ben't. 949 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 17: Make you see them be on the face or house 950 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 17: in yard? 951 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 3: He he he see great. 952 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't say necessarily like this was 953 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 18: my vision. You know, coming into the season, My my 954 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 18: plan was just to come in and do whatever aksing 955 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 18: me from the from the coaching staff, you know, God 956 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 18: has blessed me tremendously to be in this position, you 957 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 18: know what I'm saying. So with the the skill set 958 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 18: that I have and the favor that I have by God, 959 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 18: like it allows me, you know, to take advantage of 960 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 18: the opportunities. So you know, with really the opportunity that 961 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,800 Speaker 18: that the coaches and the trust that they have in 962 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 18: me allows me to go out there and play. 963 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 22: Well, this up your first experience. 964 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 7: How proud? How over the years your guys. 965 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean everyone had my back, like I mean, 966 00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 18: you can see you Oh yeah, I mean yeah, everyone's 967 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 18: really on the I think we're all thinking the same. 968 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 18: You know, we have to do better. We have to 969 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 18: you know, focus on the details. I feel like it's evident. 970 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 18: You know when you go back, you know to last 971 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 18: week or into this week, you know we are strong 972 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 18: minded team. You know, if the team comes back, you 973 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 18: know and forces overtime, you can't really come out and 974 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 18: say that team isn't a strong minded team. So I 975 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 18: think we just have to again just figure out the 976 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 18: little details and just come back to work. 977 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 2: All right. 978 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 1: That's Tyrone Tracy at the podium. I think that's our 979 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: final guy at the podium. JC so wrap it up. 980 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 1: You're talking about the importance of the bye weeknd at 981 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 1: this time of the year for the Giants. 982 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, it's it's past the halfway point, but 983 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 3: it's I think got a perfect time for the for 984 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 3: the Giants, you know, in particular for their season that 985 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 3: they lost the last five after that big win in Seattle, 986 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 3: you know, and they needed to break, you know, need 987 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 3: to break. They have a chance to step back, evaluate 988 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 3: themselves personally, lead, let the team, you know, the decision 989 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 3: makers evaluate, you know, the team itself too, and then 990 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 3: come back next week, have a good week of practice 991 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 3: and get ready for the rest of their season. You know, 992 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 3: it's tough to win games, of course, but when you 993 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 3: drop five straight, you know, somehow you got to stop 994 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 3: the bleeding. You know, a win usually does that, but 995 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 3: a break, you know, and have them thinking about this 996 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 3: loss for the next week and a half, and then 997 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 3: they get ready for the next opponent that they're facing. 998 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,879 Speaker 1: All right, let me finish right on through these stats, 999 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,399 Speaker 1: and then when we break, we'll come back. We'll talk 1000 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,439 Speaker 1: more about Tracy JC because that's one thing we haven't 1001 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: talked much about here. He was eighteen carries one hundred 1002 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: and three yards a touchdown, including that thirty two yard 1003 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,800 Speaker 1: touchdown Roun Daniel Jones twenty two or thirty seven, just 1004 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety yards, no touchdowns and those two 1005 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: critical red zone interceptions in the game. Defensively for the Giants, 1006 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: you did not have a ton of guys getting in 1007 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 1: and around the quarterback. The Giants with just one sack 1008 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 1: in this game from Brian Burrs and that game I 1009 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: believe on the Panthers first driver, not the firstking cast 1010 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,280 Speaker 1: play first. Hey, it was a little play action rollout, 1011 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 1: no one blocked and he got the sack. No other 1012 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: sacks for the Giants in this game. In terms of 1013 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 1: quarterback hits officially, the Giants had three quarterback hits in 1014 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: addition to the one sack for total for the Carolina Panthers. 1015 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 1: Bryce own just fifteen to twenty five, one hundred and 1016 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: twenty six yards, one touchdown, no picks. Tchouba Hubbard, he continued, 1017 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: Chuba Hubbard. Part of me continues to have a good year. 1018 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: Twenty eight carries, one hundred and fifty three yards in 1019 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Not a whole hot from the Panthers receivers. 1020 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 1: Hubbard four catches sixteen yards, three for forty one for 1021 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 1: Coker l Get three for forty more, two for eighteen, 1022 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 1: the rookie Jatavian Sanders two for eight Ian Thomas one 1023 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 1: catch for three yards. And for the Panthers defense on 1024 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: that side of the ball, for them, they had two sacks. 1025 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 2: They had three other quarterback hits. 1026 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: Besides those two sacks, but they have those two interceptions, 1027 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: two forced fumbles, and the one fumble recovery as well, 1028 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: so those are really the big plays for the Carolina Panthers. 1029 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: Xavier Woods had the interceptions off the Xavier Woods. Zaber 1030 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 1: Woods had to pick off the Jatavion Clowney deflection up 1031 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 1: in the end. Then Josie Duell caught the interception that 1032 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 1: hit off Tyrone Tracey. He's hands in the flat on 1033 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: the pass that was thrown slightly in front of him 1034 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: when it should have been on the other shoulder, but 1035 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: a pass you could have caught and that turned into 1036 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,800 Speaker 1: an interception. The sacks went for Ashawn Robinson and tj 1037 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: Wanham and Ashawn Robminson former Giant with the big forest 1038 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 1: fumble as well and won them with the other force 1039 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 1: fumble that was not recovered so those are your stats. 1040 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 1: Team stat wise, the Giants actually how gained the Panthers 1041 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: in this game, three hundred and forty two yards to 1042 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: three hundred and six, Giants seven to fifteen on third 1043 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: down after really struggling in the first after a much 1044 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,959 Speaker 1: better in half number two, they did a much better 1045 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 1: job with their penalties, just three penalties for fifteen yards. 1046 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 1: The Panthers were ten for eighty seven. Giants won the 1047 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 1: time in position battle thirty four minutes twenty one seconds. 1048 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,880 Speaker 1: The twenty seven minutes thirty eight seconds just shows you 1049 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 1: how important turnovers are to winning football games. The Giants 1050 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,760 Speaker 1: from minus two in the turnover ratio and in critical 1051 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 1: situations two in their red zone, one inside their own 1052 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 1: twenty and that was the ball game. Quick time out. 1053 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll talk about Tyron Tracy's day. We'll 1054 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 1: hear the play of the game, that and a whole 1055 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: lot more as we continue on Giants Your Point. Giants 1056 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: full in Munich to the Panthers at a Leon Stadium, 1057 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen in overtime. 1058 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. 1059 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 4: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants 1060 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 4: Radio Network. 1061 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 3: This is Tyrone Tracy Jr. 1062 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 18: And you're listening to the radio home of Big Blue 1063 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,319 Speaker 18: the Fan, WFAN and w Fan FM, New York. 1064 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 11: Jones over center, Tracy the tailback first and ten at 1065 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 11: the thirty two of Carolina opening possession of the third, 1066 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 11: hand off for Tracy, trying to find a rule, runs 1067 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 11: out of a tackle. 1068 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 3: He's to the twenty fifty. 1069 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 12: Ten to the five to the goal line, touchdown, Giants. 1070 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 12: Tyrone Tracy on a thirty two yard first and the 1071 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 12: Giants are on the board. 1072 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 3: We're there fifty four to go here on the third. 1073 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: That was this morning's play of the game, brought to 1074 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 1: you by our local board store. One engine drives this 1075 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: team for a current offers, visit by Ford now dot com. 1076 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 2: Ford Official Truck at the Giants and Johnny Gasius is 1077 00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 2: back in New York. 1078 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm John Schmulky with Giants Extra pointint live from Munich 1079 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 1: at Alean Stadium, home of Baron Munich Football Club. The 1080 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,800 Speaker 1: Giants fault to the Panthers in overtime twenty to seventeen. 1081 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: Now JC Tyln Tracy, great numbers, very productive, but that 1082 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 1: fumbleing overtime was the killer. It's tough for a young 1083 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 1: guy to have such a good game, but have it 1084 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,399 Speaker 1: really marred by a player that in the end ended 1085 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:23,760 Speaker 1: up costing the Giants the victory. 1086 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 3: That's the parody of the NFL. Now. It's so crazy 1087 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 3: because if you look at the other side of it, 1088 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,720 Speaker 3: Hubbard had a great game on the ground as well. 1089 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 3: He fumbles late. He also drops a pass later in 1090 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 3: a game that could have helped him, you know, seal 1091 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,800 Speaker 3: the game at the end. And then if they would have, 1092 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 3: if the Giants would end up winning, they would have 1093 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 3: looked at Hubbard. It's kind of in a similar fashion, right, 1094 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,800 Speaker 3: But that's the NFL. Man, It's it's up and down league. 1095 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 3: In the game. It doesn't have to be week to week. 1096 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 3: It happens in the game, you know. But Tracy has 1097 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 3: been a bright spot for the Giants, especially when you 1098 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 3: look at the Giants offense, you know, consistently running the 1099 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 3: ball well, you know, a big play waiting to happen, 1100 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 3: you know. And I'm just proud that he's making the strides. 1101 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 3: And I'm proud of what he said in the postgame, 1102 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 3: you know, Presser, you know, he sounds very mature when 1103 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 3: he speaks, you know, and I think he has a 1104 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:11,760 Speaker 3: bright future for the Giants. 1105 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 1: Let's plaut ten seconds to give our stations across a 1106 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 1: network a chance to identify themselves on the WFN Giants Radio. 1107 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 4: Network, WAFAN FM, WFA N FM HD one New. 1108 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 1: York Giants fall to the Panthers in overtime in Munich 1109 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen. Giants TV, presented by Bob Ziscott Furniture, 1110 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 1: is the official connected TV app of the New York Giants, 1111 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: available for free now on Apple TV, Roku, Amazon Fire TV, 1112 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 1: and Inside the Giants moll bl Ap. Stream game highlights, interviews, 1113 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: TV shows, and more exclusive video content with Giants TV. 1114 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: All right, before we say goodbye to our network, we'll 1115 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 1: continue on our flagship station WFN and New York JC. 1116 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: Give me your final thoughts on this game for the 1117 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 1: network and one of the key things the Giants need 1118 00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 1: to do here at the bye. 1119 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 3: What was a tough game for the Giants? You know, 1120 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 3: I think they dig themselves. They dug themselves in too 1121 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 3: much of a deep hole in the first half, you know. 1122 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 3: So it's like, despite their efforts in the second half, 1123 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 3: they were just in too much of a deep hole 1124 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 3: to get themselves out of. You know, from a team 1125 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 3: that in the Panthers, that haven't really had success this year. 1126 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 3: You know, their second win, second win came last week 1127 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 3: against the Saying, so this is not a winning team. 1128 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 3: This is not a team that understands how to win games, 1129 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 3: you know. But the Giants left a lot of opportunities 1130 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,919 Speaker 3: out there that they capitalized on later in the game. 1131 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,440 Speaker 3: And then of course that mistake, you know, two mistakes, 1132 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,640 Speaker 3: you know, basically in Tracy's hands with the interception and 1133 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 3: the fumble. But look, this is a week where they 1134 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 3: can sit back and evaluate, get away from football for 1135 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 3: a while. This is a long flight back, so they 1136 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 3: got a long time to reflect on the game. But 1137 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 3: when they get back, just get away from ball for 1138 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 3: a little bit. Be with your family, be with your kids, 1139 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 3: you know, go hang out with your dog, play some 1140 00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 3: video games. Don't go nowhere, don't travel nowhere, stay local, 1141 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 3: you know, but be around some love, be around some 1142 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 3: loved ones. Get away from ball, cut ball out your 1143 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 3: mind for a couple of days, and then get back refocus, 1144 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 3: ready to go because the second half of the season 1145 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 3: is starting. When they get back to practice. 1146 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: Please stick with us if you're listening on our local 1147 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 1: flags of station WFVN in New York. But it's time 1148 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 1: to say goodbye to the affiliates across the country on 1149 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 1: the Giants Radio Network, our next broadcast will be next Sunday. 1150 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, in two Sundays. 1151 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 1: Next week's to bye week, so it'll be two weeks 1152 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 1: from today, so that would be November twenty fourth. The 1153 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: Giants will host the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 1154 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 2: At MetLife Stadium. Kick off at one o'clock. 1155 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 1: Pregame show across our network will begin at Noone. Enjoy 1156 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: your bye week, everybody. Thanks for listening to us today 1157 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: and we'll see you in two weeks. Enjoy the bye 1158 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 1: week on the WFAN Giants Radio Network again the Giants 1159 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 1: Falls and the panthersm overtime twenty to seventeen here in Munich. 1160 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 2: Thanks for spending your sunny morning with us. 1161 00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 1: We had a pleasure of bringing you all this coverage 1162 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 1: from across the Atlantic Ocean. 1163 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We'll see you in two weeks 1164 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 2: on the WFAN Giants Radio Network. 1165 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 1: But we're not done right here on WFN and New York, 1166 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Jonathan can see us. We'll be joined by Paul Tatino. 1167 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm gotta get in a bus on an airplanner. I'm 1168 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 1: gonna be left in Europe, so Paul's gonna run over. 1169 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 1: He will join JC. He'll take you the rest of 1170 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,439 Speaker 1: the way and take your calls in eight eight eight 1171 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 1: eight oh eight one zero one nine eighty eight eight 1172 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: oh eight one zero one nine and they'll take your 1173 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: calls and break down the game for another forty five 1174 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 1: minutes or so on WFN in New York. Thanks for 1175 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 1: being with us for Munich everybody, I gotta run and 1176 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 1: get on a bus. JC and Caul, PAULI Dots will 1177 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: take you the rest of the way. I'll talk to 1178 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 1: you guys in a couple of weeks. Make sure you 1179 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 1: stay tuned. I'll be on DPK tomorrow Big Woo KINGGOFF 1180 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 1: live Monday and Tuesday, twelve thirty on Giants dot Com, 1181 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: The Giants Bull Black check me out there. Of all 1182 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: of you, the game off the tape, watch and we'll 1183 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: go through all the good, most of the more bad unfortunately, 1184 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 1: and everything else on Big Woo King Off five. 1185 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 2: Paul and JAC will take you the rest of the way. 1186 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more after this on the wffan 1187 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 1: Giants Radio Network. 1188 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 10: This is Daniel Jones, and you're listening to the radio 1189 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 10: home of Big Blue the Fan, WFAN and WFAN FM, 1190 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 10: New York. 1191 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 11: Tracy in the right of Jones in the shotgun sets. 1192 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 11: Your receivers left delayed hand off for Tracy, not. 1193 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 12: A lot of room and he fuffled the football and 1194 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 12: the Panthers say they haven't they do. Tyron Tracy on 1195 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 12: the first playoff overtime fuffles the football and the Panthers 1196 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 12: recovered at the Giants twenty three yard line. 1197 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 8: Jersey Jeweler with the recovery. 1198 01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 16: A Shawn Robinson, a former New York Giants defensive tackle, 1199 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 16: was the guy who broke it free and that was. 1200 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,480 Speaker 8: The Giants turning point of the game. 1201 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 16: Listen to Boomer and Goo on our flagship station WFAN 1202 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 16: tomorrow morning in the nine am hour for the Giants 1203 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 16: Turning Point Contest. The first correct caller to name the 1204 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 16: game's turning point we'll win two tickets to an upcoming 1205 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 16: Giants home game. 1206 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 8: Paul Tatino and Johnathan. 1207 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 16: To see us with you in East Rutherford as we 1208 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 16: continue to break down the Giants' overtime loss to the 1209 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 16: Carolina Panthers by the count of twenty to seventeen. You know, Jonathan, 1210 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,520 Speaker 16: it was kind of odd to me that once Carolina 1211 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 16: got that ball, they then ran Trooper Hubbard three consecutive 1212 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 16: times before Pinero kicked the thirty six yard field goal 1213 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 16: to win it. Now, if I'm Carolina, I'm kicking that 1214 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 16: field goal right away. It's only a forty yard attempt 1215 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 16: or give or take a foot from where they got 1216 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 16: the recovery. I'm saying to myself, if I'm the Giants 1217 01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 16: and they're gonna run Hubbard into the line, I'm not 1218 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 16: even thinking about tackling him. I'm just punching the ball. 1219 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 16: I'm trying to get that ball free. I want that 1220 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 16: turnover to come back to my side. Forget about trying 1221 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 16: to wrap him up and tackle him. Get that ball. 1222 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 16: Why would the Panthers give the Giants three chances to 1223 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 16: knock the ball out? 1224 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I hear you. But first, you got to 1225 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 3: secure that tackle first. Definitely got to secure the tackle first. 1226 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 3: Hubbard's a guy. If you don't get him, you know 1227 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 3: right away, he's a guy that can break tackles, break 1228 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 3: arm tackles, and then he can take it the distance too. 1229 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 3: But you know, I don't think it should have even 1230 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 3: gotten down to that ball. You know, the Giants dug 1231 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 3: themselves such a deep hole in the first half. You know, 1232 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 3: we've seen the two weeks in a row where they 1233 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 3: had some you know, success on offense, especially last week, 1234 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 3: but this week they dug themselves in the hole to 1235 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,240 Speaker 3: where they started the second half being down ten zero, 1236 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 3: you know, and the Giants just don't score enough points 1237 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 3: to dig themselves a hole like that, you know, missing 1238 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 3: a lot of opportunities in that first half from the 1239 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,920 Speaker 3: first drive on. You know, the Giants missed a lot 1240 01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,600 Speaker 3: of opportunities against the Panthers, looked. Panthers are no world beaters. 1241 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,280 Speaker 3: You know, they haven't had a shutout pass all this 1242 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 3: stat as the game was being played. They haven't had 1243 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 3: a half shutout in thirty six games. This is their 1244 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 3: first half shutout in thirty six games. So this is 1245 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 3: not a world beater. This is not the top tier 1246 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 3: of the league. You know, the Panthers are not a 1247 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 3: good football team. They showed it today. They had a 1248 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 3: lot of mistakes, ten penalties for almost one hundred yards, 1249 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 3: and even at the end of the game, they made 1250 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 3: a lot of mistakes. They fumbled, they dropped the pass 1251 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 3: to you know, to seal the game. They did a 1252 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 3: lot of mistakes and they gave a lot of opportunities 1253 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 3: for the Giants throughout the entirety of the game, and 1254 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 3: the Giants just failed to take advantage of it. 1255 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 8: All Right, Our number here, if you'd like to chime in, 1256 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 8: is eight eight eight eight oh eight one oh one 1257 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,160 Speaker 8: to nine. Eight eight eight eight oh eight one oh 1258 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 8: one to nine. 1259 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 16: If you want to give us a phone call and 1260 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 16: talk New York Giants football, Jonathan, I think you know 1261 01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 16: the one thing that really is going to bother this 1262 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 16: team as they come back on a ten hour flight 1263 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,440 Speaker 16: from Munich, and that's going to. 1264 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 8: Be a tough one. 1265 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 16: A lot of reflection there, Okay, it's going to be 1266 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 16: a real tough one. I don't really care so much 1267 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,560 Speaker 16: for red zone stats anymore because that's when you get 1268 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 16: inside the other team's twenty. I say, if you get 1269 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 16: inside the other team's thirty, that's the scoring zone whereby 1270 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 16: you should be able to make a forty seven yard 1271 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 16: field goal anything from that, and in with these kickers today, 1272 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 16: that's like ninety percent. So to me, that's where you 1273 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 16: have to get to if you're going to get points. 1274 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 16: I want to know what was the team's efficiency inside 1275 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 16: the thirty because that's the scoring zone, all right. The 1276 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 16: Giants on the season are only scoring on two thirds 1277 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,960 Speaker 16: of their opportunities in the scoring zone. A third of 1278 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 16: their chances, they're coming up with zero points zero. 1279 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 8: We're talking now. 1280 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 16: You get to the third of your in that should 1281 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 16: be automatic field goal territory, and on third of their 1282 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 16: chances they have zero. I don't think I need to 1283 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 16: tell you what that does to an offense or what 1284 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 16: that does conversely to the other team's defense when they 1285 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 16: shut you out even though you've been knocking on their door. Now, 1286 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 16: today the Giants had three opportunities during which they came 1287 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 16: up empty in the scoring zone. They had Gnat wide 1288 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 16: right on a field goal, and they had two interceptions 1289 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,920 Speaker 16: by Jones, one deflected by Clowney that was then picked 1290 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 16: off on a right roll, and then the other one 1291 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 16: on a pass that was thrown behind Tracy right there 1292 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 16: at the end of the game inside the left sideline. 1293 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 8: So think about that. 1294 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,280 Speaker 16: Three opportunities where you should have come away with at 1295 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 16: least three points on what you want me to be 1296 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 16: generous on two of the three? Yeah, Well, that gives 1297 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 16: you enough points to win, doesn't it. 1298 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 3: And I even look at the first possession that the 1299 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 3: Giants had, you know, first played the game play action 1300 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 3: deep ball, you know, down the sideline of high defensive 1301 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 3: passing afferance that ended up being a forty three yard 1302 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 3: penalty that picked them on the plus side of the field. 1303 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 3: And then on third down, you know, we talked about 1304 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 3: this during the game that that was, Look, Jones is 1305 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 3: not the most accurate quarterback, but he doesn't air mail 1306 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 3: balls like that, definitely, not on a consistent basis, not usually, 1307 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 3: And that was I don't know if that was looking yeah, 1308 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,160 Speaker 3: like it was like a triple move that he had 1309 01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,720 Speaker 3: and he just airmailed it, you know, And that's kind 1310 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 3: of that's how the game started. So the Giants, and. 1311 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,120 Speaker 16: By the way, that stole the drive at the Carolina 1312 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,560 Speaker 16: thirty eight a little bitide, but they were but they 1313 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 16: were certainly in position where they could have threatened. 1314 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 3: Right, And but they had that big play, even though 1315 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 3: it was from a penalty. So what a big play 1316 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,640 Speaker 3: is a big play? The Giants take whatever they can get, 1317 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 3: you know, but usually big plays equal points. They don't 1318 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 3: have to be touchdown, but some type of points need 1319 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 3: to come out of a drive where you have one 1320 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 3: play that gives you forty three yards, you know, and 1321 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:08,960 Speaker 3: the Giants fail to do that, and then the next 1322 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 3: time they got in that situation, they missed the field goal. 1323 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 3: So the Giants literally are just Paul week in and 1324 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,439 Speaker 3: week out, especially the last two weeks. I'm looking at 1325 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 3: last week two where the Giants ran the ball very 1326 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 3: officially in the first half against the Commanders and still 1327 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 3: we're down twenty one to seven and a half. That's 1328 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,519 Speaker 3: two weeks in a row where the Giants are down 1329 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 3: at halftime and they're just digging themselves out of hole. 1330 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 3: So everything in the second half gets magnified that much more, 1331 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,919 Speaker 3: whether it's to drop pass, an inaccurate pass, a fumble, 1332 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,760 Speaker 3: whatever the case is. The Giants don't do well in 1333 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 3: the first half enough to make basically any mistakes in 1334 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,639 Speaker 3: the second half. And that's what you're looking at. You're 1335 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,759 Speaker 3: looking at the Giant team that needs to play perfect 1336 01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:52,960 Speaker 3: for every single possession in the second half because they 1337 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,280 Speaker 3: dig themselves in such a deep hole. 1338 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 16: Well, and that's why it really stinks for the Giants, 1339 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,599 Speaker 16: because in the second half they get a sixty five 1340 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,719 Speaker 16: yard touchdown drive, they get a ninety six yard touchdown drive, which, 1341 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 16: by the way, the ninety six yard drive ties. 1342 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 8: Their longest drive of the season. 1343 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 16: They had a ninety six yard in Seattle, which you'll recall, 1344 01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:17,400 Speaker 16: then Eric Gray Fumnable, you know, and then Seattle ran 1345 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 16: it back for a score. And then the Giants also 1346 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 16: get a fifty five yard field goal drive. So they 1347 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,800 Speaker 16: had three really sweet drives, and Daniel Jones was sensational 1348 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:28,880 Speaker 16: on the final two minute drive of the fourth quarter 1349 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 16: as he brought them downfield to send the game into 1350 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:37,400 Speaker 16: overtime on Gano's field goal at seventeen seventeen. But ultimately, again, 1351 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 16: too many missed opportunities come back and bite you in 1352 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,839 Speaker 16: the butt because you can only climb up Mount Everest 1353 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:47,439 Speaker 16: so far before the weather conditions stall you and send 1354 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,680 Speaker 16: you back down the mountain. All right, let's go to 1355 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:53,599 Speaker 16: the calls. Cliff from Manhattan, you're first on the Giants 1356 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,960 Speaker 16: extra point. Good to talk to you today. 1357 01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,799 Speaker 25: How are you hey, guys? Yeah, thanks for the rundown, 1358 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:03,559 Speaker 25: and before which I have a few things. I really 1359 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,919 Speaker 25: think there's a lot to feel good about, quite frankly, 1360 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 25: but first of all, I wanted to talk about Ashan Robinson. 1361 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 25: You know, it was really ironic that he makes the 1362 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,280 Speaker 25: punch out. I thought that was more of a punch 1363 01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,799 Speaker 25: out than a fumble. And I don't know if anything 1364 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,600 Speaker 25: was wrong with Tyrone's arm because they said he was 1365 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:22,720 Speaker 25: you know, they weren't sure he was coming back in 1366 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,680 Speaker 25: the game because he was he left the game with 1367 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 25: his arm dangling at his side. I don't know if 1368 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 25: it's the one, you know, if that had anything to 1369 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,000 Speaker 25: do with it, But it was ironic that it's a 1370 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,640 Speaker 25: ten year veteran almost if he's not ten, Ashan that 1371 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 25: makes that play. And the reason he's not here is 1372 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:43,120 Speaker 25: because Schmelk had an interview on the huddle before the 1373 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,920 Speaker 25: twenty twenty two season with you guys have a counterpart 1374 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,639 Speaker 25: counterpart in Buffalo, and they wondered, what could we expect 1375 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 25: as the Giants try to come up to be a 1376 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,680 Speaker 25: competitive team year in and year out? What did the 1377 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,639 Speaker 25: Dabel and Shane guys do up there? And the first 1378 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,400 Speaker 25: thing he said was they got young, you know, So 1379 01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 25: that's the only Reasonationean's not here. So maybe we don't 1380 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,000 Speaker 25: have anybody that that replaced him yet. But that goes 1381 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,760 Speaker 25: back to the whole young team thing, and and when 1382 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,680 Speaker 25: when we were getting gashed on defense, it was so frustrating. 1383 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 25: But then I thought, well, wait a minute, we've got 1384 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 25: good players. Where are they? And then on that fumble 1385 01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,600 Speaker 25: by Hubbard, you know, I mean Jonathan you you know, 1386 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 25: you know that his knee was was turned the wrong way. 1387 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 25: But but Tracy uh made made made that play. He 1388 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 25: pulled his arm out and caused the fumble. So maybe 1389 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 25: it was both his me and the and Tracy, but 1390 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 25: I didn't hear Tracy getting any credit for that. And 1391 01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 25: then on on there, I thought we had a lot 1392 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,840 Speaker 25: of rhythm on offense, but on on the plays that 1393 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 25: you know, the big interceptions, Clowney made a play. Man. 1394 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 25: I mean, yeah, they're still a lousy team, but he 1395 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,639 Speaker 25: made a play. And on that on the interception with Tracy, 1396 01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:00,080 Speaker 25: wasn't that linebacker having some pretty exceptional coverage even if 1397 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 25: the ball was closer to Tracy's middle or more towards 1398 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 25: the other shoulder, I'm not so sure he catches that 1399 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 25: I don't usually see on a hot read, a linebacker 1400 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,479 Speaker 25: climbing all over the running back like that. It just 1401 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,280 Speaker 25: seems like as much as they could have been had 1402 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 25: those guys made a couple of plays, and we made 1403 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,720 Speaker 25: a couple of plays too, But I just think we 1404 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,160 Speaker 25: don't look like we're incapable. You know, we really look 1405 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 25: like we're capable. And as you guys keep saying, you know, 1406 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,320 Speaker 25: we just seem to have the worst things happen at 1407 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,839 Speaker 25: the worst possible Cliff. 1408 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,800 Speaker 16: The Giants keep shooting themselves in the foot and at 1409 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,880 Speaker 16: about this point, they don't have any more toes left. 1410 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 16: And I mean, I'm really I'm not trying to be funny. 1411 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,040 Speaker 16: I mean, I'm making a pun because it's the only 1412 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,760 Speaker 16: way to prevent from being disgusted, because I know how 1413 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,160 Speaker 16: those players and coaches feel. They put so much into 1414 01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,920 Speaker 16: this every single day during the week, and then to 1415 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,120 Speaker 16: have that happen to them, it's painful. 1416 01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,200 Speaker 3: So Jonathan, yeah, absolutely, And it's not like last year 1417 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,600 Speaker 3: where a lot of games were not competitive. You know, 1418 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 3: we had two games this year that wasn't competitive, I think, 1419 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,800 Speaker 3: and if for Eagles and then the Minnesota. 1420 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,200 Speaker 8: By the way, Cliff, thanks for the call, go ahead. 1421 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:14,080 Speaker 3: Jansan, Cliff, always good talking to you, Cliff. You know, 1422 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 3: those are the only two games that were competitive. Giants 1423 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,920 Speaker 3: were in every single game after that you know, and 1424 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 3: that's what makes those being detailed so important, you know, 1425 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,040 Speaker 3: because these games are close. These games will come down 1426 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,960 Speaker 3: to a play here or play there, late late, late 1427 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 3: in the game. Sometimes like today, it'll take five quarters 1428 01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,559 Speaker 3: of football, five quarters of situation of football that you 1429 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,680 Speaker 3: have to prepare for, you know. And the Giants just 1430 01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 3: keep falling short week in and week out. And I 1431 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,479 Speaker 3: talked earlier about the bye week being at this time. 1432 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,840 Speaker 3: You know, it never comes at the perfect time, but 1433 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 3: for the Giants, I think this is a perfect time 1434 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,760 Speaker 3: for the bye week. Losing five straight after a huge 1435 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 3: win in Seattle, you know, dropping five straight, one game 1436 01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,800 Speaker 3: not I don't say kind of not competitive in the 1437 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 3: Eagles game. It was competitive early, but every other game 1438 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,880 Speaker 3: the Giants were in. You know, they have to take 1439 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,120 Speaker 3: a step back. I told him, get away from football, 1440 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,920 Speaker 3: be around your family, be around lovel on for a 1441 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:12,480 Speaker 3: day or two, and then get back in football, revitalized, refocused, 1442 01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 3: and evaluate yourself personally. And then of course there's gonna 1443 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,559 Speaker 3: be evaluation from the you know, from the coaches, the whole, 1444 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 3: you know, from everybody to see moving forward, what this 1445 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,120 Speaker 3: Giants team is going to look like. Face the tenth 1446 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:26,120 Speaker 3: Big Buccaneers in two weeks. 1447 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,400 Speaker 16: All right, So that's your piece of advice as a 1448 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,800 Speaker 16: former New York Giants player who has shown a lot 1449 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,400 Speaker 16: of leadership skills during your time here. Let's go to 1450 01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:37,040 Speaker 16: co captain Bobby o'karake, who was able to address the 1451 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:41,679 Speaker 16: media shortly after the game in Munich, Germany. Our producer 1452 01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,880 Speaker 16: Pete Hoffman was able to catch up to him. 1453 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,720 Speaker 14: Bobby, be your veteran of this team now and you're, 1454 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,719 Speaker 14: you know, teach two and eight. 1455 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:54,120 Speaker 13: And it's every loss seems like it's like that another dagger. 1456 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 1: How do you how as a leader do you tell 1457 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,680 Speaker 1: these kids, these younger players on team like it's going 1458 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:01,280 Speaker 1: to get better? 1459 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:02,639 Speaker 15: Man? 1460 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,519 Speaker 3: You you you, you gotta stay resilient. 1461 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,280 Speaker 19: It takes a tough a tough person to have a 1462 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 19: positive mindset in tough situations. I mean, yeah, to look 1463 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:16,280 Speaker 19: at the reality of it. 1464 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 3: It's it's it's. 1465 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,640 Speaker 19: Raining right now, it's porn on us. But you know, 1466 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,240 Speaker 19: you got to have that perspective to learn how to 1467 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 19: dance in the rain. Understand that your hard work in 1468 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:31,639 Speaker 19: adverse situations, adverse circumstances is going to pay off. Might 1469 01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,439 Speaker 19: not pay off today, might not pay off tomorrow. At 1470 01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,519 Speaker 19: some point in time, it's gonna pay off. And when 1471 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,759 Speaker 19: it does, you know you'll you'll be you'll be grateful 1472 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 19: and you'll thank yourself that you you stay consistent, uh 1473 01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 19: to your process and you stay positive. So uh, that's 1474 01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,400 Speaker 19: really all you can do, because what's the alternative, you know, 1475 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:53,880 Speaker 19: quitting and having a negative attitude and being selfish. That's 1476 01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 19: that's not the character of any of the guys in 1477 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,160 Speaker 19: our locker room. So we're gonna continue to fight. We're 1478 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,040 Speaker 19: gonna continue to work hard. We're gonna continue to you 1479 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,559 Speaker 19: very critical of ourselves and just gonna work every day. 1480 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,320 Speaker 13: And you know, again, like how how is the coaches 1481 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 13: works these days? 1482 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 2: Is it heading home? 1483 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:09,679 Speaker 7: Is it our guys? 1484 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,479 Speaker 2: I know that you're able to walk away being positive. 1485 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:16,280 Speaker 8: There the younger teammates able to walk away with. 1486 01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 7: Them, you know it is. 1487 01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:23,560 Speaker 19: It's everybody's frustrated, coaches, players, front office staff. 1488 01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:24,560 Speaker 3: Everybody's frustrated. 1489 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:28,360 Speaker 19: But you know that's where me, as a as a veteran, 1490 01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,720 Speaker 19: like you said, on this team, guys like not your 1491 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 19: guys like desks, can really set the example because a 1492 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,080 Speaker 19: lot of these young guys, you know, they hear the 1493 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 19: coaches message, but they look at older guys and see 1494 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 19: how how they respond. So yeah, it's the onus is 1495 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,479 Speaker 19: on us to set the example and forge forward. 1496 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 2: And what what do you do going forward? 1497 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:50,040 Speaker 14: Though, Like it's two and eight, you know, but it's 1498 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 14: it doesn't seem it seems grim, playoffs is whatever, But 1499 01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:54,679 Speaker 14: like what. 1500 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:55,839 Speaker 7: Can you do on the fields? 1501 01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 2: What can you do in the field to change it? 1502 01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:59,840 Speaker 2: Because it seems like it's a player too here or there. 1503 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,559 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a player too here there. 1504 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:02,519 Speaker 3: And that's the thing. 1505 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,960 Speaker 19: Two and eight eight and two, six and six, whatever 1506 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 19: you are, it's the same mindset. You're either getting better 1507 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,439 Speaker 19: than worse. So you go, you got to practice every 1508 01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 19: day and you work hard and you focus on your craft. 1509 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,080 Speaker 19: You'd be professional about it. This is our job, and 1510 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,439 Speaker 19: you strive. You strive for excellence. You know you might 1511 01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,560 Speaker 19: fall short of that, but it's the intent and the 1512 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,639 Speaker 19: attitude that you have that's what you know shows your character. 1513 01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,240 Speaker 16: Big plays hurt the Giants once again, and as Bobby 1514 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,799 Speaker 16: o'currake alluded to, you've just got to keep your focus 1515 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,759 Speaker 16: and you've got to keep your fire and your desire 1516 01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,840 Speaker 16: going forward because you can't let this stuff beat you down. 1517 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,799 Speaker 16: The Giants gave up six plays today of twenty yards 1518 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,640 Speaker 16: or longer, and the big plays have been a buggaboo 1519 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,400 Speaker 16: for this team all throughout the course of the season. Okairake, 1520 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,120 Speaker 16: by the way, finished with eleven tackles today, second time 1521 01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,280 Speaker 16: of the last three weeks he's had double digit tackles 1522 01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:58,240 Speaker 16: in a game. 1523 01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,120 Speaker 8: But it's not getting any easier. 1524 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,200 Speaker 16: And as he and Dexter Lawrence said during the week, 1525 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,599 Speaker 16: you hate to go into the buy with a loss 1526 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,599 Speaker 16: because you got to think about it a long time. 1527 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 16: It's two weeks before the Giants get back on the 1528 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,840 Speaker 16: field here at Mettlife Stadium against Tampa Bay. 1529 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, look, the Giants got a lot to 1530 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,920 Speaker 3: reflect on. You know, this is a long playing ride back, 1531 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,519 Speaker 3: you know. But like I said before, the Giants got 1532 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 3: to get a they have a chance to get away 1533 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 3: from ball for a little bit. It's been real rocky here. 1534 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,679 Speaker 3: You know when I say rocky New York, New Jersey, 1535 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,599 Speaker 3: this area, these people here, they love football, but at 1536 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,479 Speaker 3: the same time, they will get on you, you know, 1537 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,519 Speaker 3: and that's what they've been doing. They've been on us 1538 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 3: a lot. You know, I say us as an organization, 1539 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,799 Speaker 3: you know, and it was about time that the Giants 1540 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 3: took a little break from football. You know, they have 1541 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,360 Speaker 3: been putting that good product out there, which we've you know, 1542 01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 3: culturally we've been known to have. You know, the Giants 1543 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,240 Speaker 3: are a winning organization, you know, so I think the 1544 01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,960 Speaker 3: guys need to take a step back, relax, you know, 1545 01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,639 Speaker 3: reflect on what's been happening, and you know, and then 1546 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,080 Speaker 3: come back next week, fired up, ready to go. Tempy 1547 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 3: Buccaneers year, they lost a couple of receivers. Got Win's out, 1548 01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,400 Speaker 3: Mike Evans. I don't know if he's returning. I know 1549 01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,200 Speaker 3: he had a hamstring that he's he's dealing with. 1550 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,360 Speaker 8: H But Sterling Shepherd's back, Yes. 1551 01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,320 Speaker 3: Sterling's there, and Baker's still throwing that ball around here, 1552 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,320 Speaker 3: Yes he is. He is still throwing that ball around 1553 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:18,920 Speaker 3: the field. So the Giants are definitely going to have 1554 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,360 Speaker 3: to you know, have a lot of a lot better 1555 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 3: showing than they did today. 1556 01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,639 Speaker 16: Okay, before we get to another break, let's go back 1557 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,840 Speaker 16: to the phones, and Jim from Rockland County, you're next 1558 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,120 Speaker 16: on the Giants extra point. 1559 01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,360 Speaker 3: Hello, Hi, thanks. 1560 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,720 Speaker 15: For taking my call. At points, I want to make. 1561 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,360 Speaker 15: First point I want to make is I'm looking at 1562 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:41,320 Speaker 15: shown da bol regime, uh and I can honestly say 1563 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,080 Speaker 15: the Giants are not better today than when they took over. 1564 01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:50,120 Speaker 15: I would argue that they're they're worse. Secondly, at what 1565 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 15: how does a GM sign a backup quarterback that is 1566 01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,599 Speaker 15: not good enough to play in a game? I think 1567 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,800 Speaker 15: it was obvious today and I listened to Kurt that 1568 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,599 Speaker 15: there were many many opportunities where Jones had wide open 1569 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,040 Speaker 15: receivers and he either didn't get the ball to them 1570 01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,040 Speaker 15: or he didn't didn't see them. And when do you 1571 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,240 Speaker 15: make a change and say this experiment is not working, 1572 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:18,240 Speaker 15: Because in all honesty, this year is over. What does 1573 01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,480 Speaker 15: the future hope for us? We have the extensive coordinator. 1574 01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,080 Speaker 15: I argue to you that they've picked up his scheme 1575 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,599 Speaker 15: weeks ago and they've made no adjustice teams are running 1576 01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,200 Speaker 15: all over us like we're not out there. It seems 1577 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,240 Speaker 15: to me we have a good enough cadre of individual 1578 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,240 Speaker 15: defensively we should be able to make a stop. We 1579 01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:36,080 Speaker 15: can't make a stop. 1580 01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,720 Speaker 16: So I Jim, we'll listen, listen to us off the air. 1581 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,000 Speaker 16: We'll get your comments or get comments in for you, 1582 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:43,599 Speaker 16: because we got to get to a break real quick, 1583 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 16: but thank you for calling. Let's address these three things. 1584 01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:49,280 Speaker 16: I'll say this, this roster is absolutely better than it 1585 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,920 Speaker 16: was when Shane and Dable took over. Certainly, salary cap wise, 1586 01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:57,559 Speaker 16: they're in better shape, youth wise, they're in better shape, 1587 01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:01,599 Speaker 16: potential and upside, they are certainly in better shape. There 1588 01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,759 Speaker 16: is absolutely no question about that. So I would dispute 1589 01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:08,000 Speaker 16: your first point your second point. The Giants stuck with 1590 01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,200 Speaker 16: Daniel Jones, and in the second half he was thirteen 1591 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,720 Speaker 16: of twenty fo one hundred and nineteen yards and led 1592 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,879 Speaker 16: the Giants to two touchdowns and got them the tying 1593 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 16: drive by leading them to that field goal in the 1594 01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,680 Speaker 16: final two minutes. By the way, with no timeouts in 1595 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:23,720 Speaker 16: his pocket, he had the two minute warning and that 1596 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:25,760 Speaker 16: was it and got them back. 1597 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,519 Speaker 8: So I would say, what were you what were you 1598 01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:29,400 Speaker 8: wanting them to do? 1599 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,080 Speaker 16: Put in put in lock, put in de Vito, as 1600 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:36,240 Speaker 16: if they were going to do better than what Jones did. Now, again, 1601 01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,880 Speaker 16: he did not have a good first half. He looked 1602 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,639 Speaker 16: like he was lost. He did not play well at all. 1603 01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,400 Speaker 16: But they stuck with him. They showed faith in him, 1604 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,639 Speaker 16: and he rewarded them by getting them three scoring drives 1605 01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:51,200 Speaker 16: and sending the game to overtime. So I would, unfortunately 1606 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:55,080 Speaker 16: have to disagree with your point there of even thinking 1607 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,080 Speaker 16: about putting in a backup quarterback, whether it be Lock 1608 01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,400 Speaker 16: or de Vito, because Jones did what he had to 1609 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:05,000 Speaker 16: do to get off the canvas. Now, the third point, 1610 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:06,040 Speaker 16: where do we go. 1611 01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 8: With that one? Jonathan? I? 1612 01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:08,360 Speaker 3: I what was the third point? 1613 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,439 Speaker 16: His third point was, at what point do you do 1614 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:14,000 Speaker 16: you start a second guessing where you're going with this team? 1615 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, listen, I think there's question There have to 1616 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,040 Speaker 3: be questions. These are grown men over there that love 1617 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,120 Speaker 3: to win. Everybody in the NFL loves the win. We 1618 01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 3: all hate to lose, we all love to win. So 1619 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,599 Speaker 3: they're all personally going through what they're going through. 1620 01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:28,680 Speaker 15: It. 1621 01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:30,160 Speaker 3: It's a lot of reflection that's going to be on 1622 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 3: his flight. But I do hear his point because I 1623 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,320 Speaker 3: also agree with you with his first question that you 1624 01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,360 Speaker 3: answered that the Giants are basically better everywhere, you know, 1625 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,200 Speaker 3: but not at the record. Right the Giants right now 1626 01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,439 Speaker 3: are two and eight, you know, two years ago. With 1627 01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,639 Speaker 3: his point, I think they started six and two, if 1628 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,800 Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, the Giants started six and one. 1629 01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,120 Speaker 8: Well, that that was the playoff season of twenty twenty two. 1630 01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,120 Speaker 3: Right, that was two years ago. That's what he said. 1631 01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,559 Speaker 3: She said two years ago. So at that point, which 1632 01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,640 Speaker 3: would have been two weeks ago, the Giants were at 1633 01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,639 Speaker 3: two or six, and you know, at week eight two 1634 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 3: years ago, they were at six and two. So I 1635 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,360 Speaker 3: hear his point in terms of and I'm taking your 1636 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 3: point in that the Giants are better basically everywhere. You know, 1637 01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,720 Speaker 3: the maybe not the running back position, but Tracy has 1638 01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,960 Speaker 3: been very, very good for the New York Football Giants. 1639 01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,280 Speaker 3: Offensive line, we could I want to talk about that too. 1640 01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,360 Speaker 3: Offensive line has got better. You have a possibly an 1641 01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,080 Speaker 3: elite playmaker on the offensive side of the ball and 1642 01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,439 Speaker 3: elite neighbors. Right, you have a surrounding cast. While that 1643 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 3: Robinson has a merch he's healthy this year. Defensively, Dexter 1644 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 3: Lawrence is one of the best players, if not the 1645 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,439 Speaker 3: best defensive player. You have a middle linebacker that's very 1646 01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,040 Speaker 3: capable of making plays, game change of plays. He forces 1647 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,479 Speaker 3: the ball out all the time. He has a supporting cast. 1648 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,840 Speaker 3: Defensive backs are very young. But all around, the Giants 1649 01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,519 Speaker 3: are better. But the record is not. And that's the 1650 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,320 Speaker 3: point I think he may be trying to make because 1651 01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 3: when you look at them on paper, you look at them, 1652 01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,160 Speaker 3: you know that they are a better team than what 1653 01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,559 Speaker 3: we saw from twenty twenty two. But on record, they 1654 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,599 Speaker 3: are not a better team. They haven't found a way 1655 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,719 Speaker 3: to win games. Twenty twenty two they did every single 1656 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,599 Speaker 3: week they were in close one score games and they 1657 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,360 Speaker 3: won I think nine out of eleven. If I'm not 1658 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:10,479 Speaker 3: mistaken that year. 1659 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,679 Speaker 16: Well, now here's where I'm gonna go with that third point, 1660 01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 16: and it's very simple. 1661 01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:16,240 Speaker 8: It goes back to. 1662 01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,920 Speaker 16: The first point. The Giants are a much younger team 1663 01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,160 Speaker 16: right now. They're playing a lot of younger guys, an 1664 01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:26,080 Speaker 16: awful lot of snaps. This gentleman wanted to know about. 1665 01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,360 Speaker 16: I guess it was Jim want to know about when 1666 01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,120 Speaker 16: do you change direction to turn the page? How can 1667 01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,760 Speaker 16: you you're playing a bunch of your young guys already, 1668 01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:38,400 Speaker 16: there's nobody to bench to bring on another young guy 1669 01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:39,839 Speaker 16: to say, well, he's our future. 1670 01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,559 Speaker 8: No, these young guys you have to go through their 1671 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,640 Speaker 8: growing pains. That's the whole point. 1672 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:50,280 Speaker 16: That's why you go through a season like this because 1673 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:54,040 Speaker 16: you want those young talented players to get all their 1674 01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,639 Speaker 16: kinks out during a year like this where things don't 1675 01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,800 Speaker 16: go well, then you wash all those kinks out and 1676 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:03,960 Speaker 16: you hope that all those first, second, and third year 1677 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,400 Speaker 16: players that gained all of this extra experience in playing 1678 01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,040 Speaker 16: time will mature from this and be better. 1679 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,840 Speaker 3: And there's a lot of positives to take from the game, 1680 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,439 Speaker 3: you know, and I'm trying to look at it in 1681 01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,080 Speaker 3: a positive light. I hate to lose, even though I'm 1682 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:17,720 Speaker 3: on the side of it. 1683 01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:18,960 Speaker 8: Everybody, we. 1684 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,640 Speaker 3: Sit together every single game. You know, away game is 1685 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,240 Speaker 3: a little different. But today we were able to sit 1686 01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,599 Speaker 3: together and both of us the whole entire game, we're 1687 01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,400 Speaker 3: going back and forth. We're livid, you know. We're excited 1688 01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,040 Speaker 3: that the Giants are scoring. But I did take some 1689 01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,760 Speaker 3: positives away. Evan Neil got some playing time that he 1690 01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:35,280 Speaker 3: played today. 1691 01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,000 Speaker 8: He started today could be the turning point in his career. 1692 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,040 Speaker 3: Listen, we talked about this. We were both excited. When 1693 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:42,680 Speaker 3: I came in here. You told me the first thing 1694 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,160 Speaker 3: you said to me, Evan Neil's starting at right tackle today. 1695 01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,320 Speaker 8: I got fired up, and he's gonna play well. 1696 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,439 Speaker 3: I got fired up. This is another opportunity for a 1697 01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 3: guy who was a dominant player in college, hasn't really 1698 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,560 Speaker 3: had his luck in the NFL, A lot of injuries 1699 01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:00,800 Speaker 3: in his young career, not playing well all and I'm 1700 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,880 Speaker 3: not gonna say he has. But today we didn't call 1701 01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:07,280 Speaker 3: his name one time. No procedural penalties. I don't think 1702 01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,439 Speaker 3: he gave up a sack. Nope, If I'm not mistaken, 1703 01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:10,559 Speaker 3: he looked good. 1704 01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:14,439 Speaker 16: Next Jass had him for one pressure in forty one 1705 01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:15,639 Speaker 16: pass protections. 1706 01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,080 Speaker 3: That is light years beyond what he's been doing in 1707 01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:18,639 Speaker 3: the NFL. 1708 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,840 Speaker 8: That's flat out good for any right tack. 1709 01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:24,439 Speaker 3: And he is a young guy that these guys drafted, 1710 01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,559 Speaker 3: and last year's draft the Giants hit a home run. 1711 01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:32,200 Speaker 3: This past year's draft, you know, Tyrone, Tracy Malik, neighbors, 1712 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 3: Tyler Nuban, Drew Phillips. Who else am I missing that 1713 01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,360 Speaker 3: that's playing right now? Theo Johnson? Who else? They're all 1714 01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,400 Speaker 3: playing every single draft before the Giants are playing. 1715 01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:44,840 Speaker 16: So you've already kind of turned the page in that 1716 01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,120 Speaker 16: you're letting these young guys learn on the job. 1717 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,280 Speaker 3: The only thing is, though, they have to figure out 1718 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,240 Speaker 3: how to win games with this, with this young crop 1719 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,880 Speaker 3: of guys with a quarterback who as of you know, 1720 01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:00,080 Speaker 3: the last two weeks struggles early in games. You have 1721 01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:04,320 Speaker 3: to figure out how to win games, because you know 1722 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:09,360 Speaker 3: you can't. You can't end every season three two, three, 1723 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,960 Speaker 3: four games under five hundred. No, you can't do that. 1724 01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:13,240 Speaker 3: You know. 1725 01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:15,759 Speaker 8: It fosters bad habits one hundred. 1726 01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,320 Speaker 3: You know, and you know, the Giants culture here is 1727 01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,920 Speaker 3: a winning culture. You know, the Giants have four Super 1728 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,519 Speaker 3: Bowls and a lot of these young fans, you know, 1729 01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,959 Speaker 3: they've only seen a couple, but most of our callers 1730 01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,240 Speaker 3: that call in, the older gentleman, they've been here from 1731 01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:36,360 Speaker 3: the losing seasons of the seventies and early eighties. They've 1732 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,120 Speaker 3: been around since the eighty six Super Bowl, the ninety 1733 01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:40,200 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. 1734 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,080 Speaker 8: You call older gentlemen, the older gentleman? 1735 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,400 Speaker 3: How they call you, oh, the older gentleman. Because we 1736 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:50,120 Speaker 3: have some great callers here that consistently listen and consistently 1737 01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,920 Speaker 3: call in. And I feel like, look, I've been more 1738 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,320 Speaker 3: appreciative of the fans because now I'm on this side 1739 01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,240 Speaker 3: of it, and I get to speak to these guys 1740 01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,519 Speaker 3: on a assistant basis. So for me, and I always 1741 01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:07,679 Speaker 3: had respect and appreciation, but it's it's exponentially more now 1742 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,400 Speaker 3: that I get to talk to these guys on a 1743 01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:13,639 Speaker 3: consistent basis, and they need some winning. They need it 1744 01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:17,719 Speaker 3: like that's what the Giant this Jersey, New York area. 1745 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,480 Speaker 3: They need it. They're suffering right now. The Jets are struggling, 1746 01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,760 Speaker 3: the Yankees just loss of the series the Mets were 1747 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,479 Speaker 3: close to. They need some wins. The liberty one deliberty, 1748 01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:29,639 Speaker 3: do win the liberty doing? 1749 01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:31,559 Speaker 2: I know your daughter like that? 1750 01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:32,360 Speaker 3: Yes she did. 1751 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,400 Speaker 2: All right, we will take more. 1752 01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,400 Speaker 16: Of your phone calls at eight eight eight, eight oh eight, 1753 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,960 Speaker 16: one oh one to nine after we take this time out. 1754 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,400 Speaker 8: On the Giants Extra Point. You're listening to the Fan 1755 01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:43,360 Speaker 8: in New York City. 1756 01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:47,920 Speaker 4: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the Wfan Giants 1757 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:48,919 Speaker 4: Radio Network. 1758 01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,439 Speaker 21: This is Jermaine Lenor and you're listening to the radio 1759 01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:55,519 Speaker 21: home of Big Blue, the Fan, WFAN and Wfan FM, 1760 01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:56,080 Speaker 21: New York. 1761 01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,160 Speaker 16: Welcome back to the Giants Extra Point. Paul Detino and 1762 01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,719 Speaker 16: Jonathan Casi is with you. The Panthers beat the Giants 1763 01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:06,200 Speaker 16: in overtime twenty to seventeen in a heartbreaker for Big Blue. 1764 01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,840 Speaker 16: Over in Munich, Germany. Now, Jermaina Luminoor, the gentleman you 1765 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:13,240 Speaker 16: just heard from, moved to left tackle today. First time 1766 01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:16,080 Speaker 16: he had played on that side, since the Giants had 1767 01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,000 Speaker 16: decided that Evan Neil would be able to come off 1768 01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,599 Speaker 16: the bench and make the start at right tackle. Today, 1769 01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,000 Speaker 16: Giants gave up one sack. But I have a hunch 1770 01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:27,400 Speaker 16: that as we hear from Jermaino Luminour, he's probably not 1771 01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:28,960 Speaker 16: a very happy camper right now. 1772 01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,000 Speaker 3: Three days practice is long. 1773 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:33,320 Speaker 21: I'm not gonna pat myself in a bag, but because 1774 01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,400 Speaker 21: I've already have standing for myself. But I feel like 1775 01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:38,400 Speaker 21: I did everything I couldn't optimistic. 1776 01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:38,720 Speaker 7: Guy about this team. 1777 01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,439 Speaker 21: I mean, what's three action me in two and eight? 1778 01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:41,960 Speaker 7: I got shot guy this year? What have you? 1779 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:43,559 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1780 01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,800 Speaker 7: I think the biggest thing with this is just getting 1781 01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,040 Speaker 7: honest with yourself. And I mean, if you go. 1782 01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:53,120 Speaker 21: Back to shoot four o'clock and could have won, MOI 1783 01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:53,960 Speaker 21: are into the law. 1784 01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:54,320 Speaker 3: Second. 1785 01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,559 Speaker 21: Yeah, I'm I'm still optimistic just because that's my mentality, 1786 01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,880 Speaker 21: you know, Officer. I can always tell people I've been 1787 01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:01,840 Speaker 21: at the bottom, mine up in yours and everything. So 1788 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:04,720 Speaker 21: for me to avoid that enough to go over the 1789 01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,040 Speaker 21: same place, optimism and confidence. 1790 01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,040 Speaker 3: Is the only thing that can keep me away from that. 1791 01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:09,920 Speaker 21: And that's why I'm the most optimistic val You're meeting 1792 01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,960 Speaker 21: confident gual you meet you know, so that I think 1793 01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,240 Speaker 21: that there's definite things we can clean up on our 1794 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,000 Speaker 21: side of the ball. Definitely one thing that we can 1795 01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:18,960 Speaker 21: try to work out. 1796 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:20,680 Speaker 14: He ran them ball great and when we have to 1797 01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:22,640 Speaker 14: throw up, you know, we did our jobs as off 1798 01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,960 Speaker 14: as a bottle in that count talking much about other 1799 01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,080 Speaker 14: positions because you know, I don't play those positions, so 1800 01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:28,679 Speaker 14: I can only focus on opposition group. 1801 01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:30,040 Speaker 21: And I feel like we did what we needed to 1802 01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:35,120 Speaker 21: do obviously, as always plays and series where you can 1803 01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:38,280 Speaker 21: try and do more. So you know, I'm I'm gonna 1804 01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,360 Speaker 21: keep being off off of this thing two when it 1805 01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:42,960 Speaker 21: sucks moves in two may, I told myself, So I 1806 01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:44,599 Speaker 21: has them that a lot of guys I walk around 1807 01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:45,519 Speaker 21: to do do so. 1808 01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,560 Speaker 3: You think the body to reflect. 1809 01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:51,240 Speaker 18: By everything, and so what we can do to finish 1810 01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:51,839 Speaker 18: off is special. 1811 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,960 Speaker 24: Do you think there needs to be significant changes like 1812 01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:56,400 Speaker 24: you have to buy weay give a couple of weeks 1813 01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:58,200 Speaker 24: here as much as you kind of can or is 1814 01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,240 Speaker 24: it is it kind of just stay the stayble. 1815 01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:00,720 Speaker 3: Portion of day. 1816 01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,120 Speaker 21: I think the big thing with that is and what 1817 01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,600 Speaker 21: I've learned being in the least three years now is 1818 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,080 Speaker 21: you probably get as a player. You pump get into 1819 01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,559 Speaker 21: things that you think need to be changed. Obviously, everyone 1820 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,479 Speaker 21: his R fan, things that you think can be better. 1821 01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:15,880 Speaker 21: All you can do is focus on the drunk is 1822 01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,560 Speaker 21: and then of the day. You don't get to do 1823 01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,559 Speaker 21: this for so long, and you try to maximize every 1824 01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:23,320 Speaker 21: single game and every single day in his career. 1825 01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:25,720 Speaker 14: And so with me, I'm just gonna keep focusing on 1826 01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:27,960 Speaker 14: what I can control, and I cannot control any personal 1827 01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,120 Speaker 14: decisions like whatever's going on out there. Where I control 1828 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,840 Speaker 14: is walking from Mike rom or the start on that play, 1829 01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:35,840 Speaker 14: going out there and trying to move guys and football 1830 01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:37,519 Speaker 14: and just trying to dumble the guy. 1831 01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:38,000 Speaker 3: In front of me, you know. 1832 01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:42,439 Speaker 21: So I think that obviously we've we had the talent 1833 01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:46,960 Speaker 21: to shoots in. I mean, two and eight is that's 1834 01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,000 Speaker 21: a that's a terrible record of things. Partly it is 1835 01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:50,560 Speaker 21: the worst record I've ever had in my career, but 1836 01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:53,720 Speaker 21: also at the same time, I think me being an 1837 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,240 Speaker 21: older guy, smatch up to kind of be that guy 1838 01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:57,719 Speaker 21: guy's getting looking at it and try. 1839 01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:58,320 Speaker 15: To follow, you know. 1840 01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:00,360 Speaker 21: And it's a weird position for me cause I'm in 1841 01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:04,880 Speaker 21: a position, but I like I'm getting like me. I 1842 01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,519 Speaker 21: feel like like Minosels fell on me. Here be the 1843 01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,160 Speaker 21: god that let's you walk now. You know, have you 1844 01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:10,680 Speaker 21: been around, You've been rust with your teams. You know 1845 01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:12,840 Speaker 21: what it takes, so try and bring that out of everyone. 1846 01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:13,479 Speaker 2: Tracey. 1847 01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,760 Speaker 16: I would think that Jermaino Luminora will continue at left 1848 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,599 Speaker 16: tackle after today's performance, and we will see Evan Neil 1849 01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,360 Speaker 16: get some more chances on the right side. By the way, 1850 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,800 Speaker 16: Daniel Jones was twenty two of thirty seven. 1851 01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,160 Speaker 8: He was sacked twice. Let me revise that number. 1852 01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:32,000 Speaker 16: He was sacked twice today and did throw those two 1853 01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,840 Speaker 16: interceptions that we talked about earlier. That's his passing line. 1854 01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:38,160 Speaker 16: Giants ran thirty four times total for one hundred and 1855 01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,439 Speaker 16: sixty seven yards, a couple of touchdowns, one by Tracy, 1856 01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,599 Speaker 16: one by Jones. Tracy was eighteen for one to three 1857 01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:49,160 Speaker 16: and had the end zone scamper of thirty two. Let's 1858 01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,720 Speaker 16: go back to the phones and Tyler from Shelton, Connecticut, 1859 01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:54,800 Speaker 16: you're next on the Giants extra point. 1860 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,840 Speaker 2: Hello, make it a. 1861 01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,639 Speaker 9: New guys, Thanks for having me. Sure spok you guys. 1862 01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:05,080 Speaker 9: Week one after that debacle, here we go again another week. 1863 01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,280 Speaker 9: You know, season ticket holders the four of us. Obviously, 1864 01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,360 Speaker 9: thankfully today we weren't there because that would have been 1865 01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,320 Speaker 9: a terrible trip. But you know, weekend and weekend we're 1866 01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,400 Speaker 9: watching this terrible product. But Daniel Jones at the helm 1867 01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:18,880 Speaker 9: that's being trotted out there by John Marra, and I 1868 01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,280 Speaker 9: know you guys are gonna continue to defend him. Everyone 1869 01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:23,960 Speaker 9: calls up and defends him, but he cannot be out 1870 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:25,720 Speaker 9: there as a starting quarterback to this. 1871 01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:29,360 Speaker 15: He is a loser. He is a loser, and this 1872 01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:30,040 Speaker 15: is terrible. 1873 01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:32,800 Speaker 9: It is a struggle for us sustain to go week 1874 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:36,000 Speaker 9: in and week out and watch this terrible, losing product. 1875 01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,840 Speaker 8: All right, Tyler, thank you for the phone call. 1876 01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,479 Speaker 16: I think the two things that he's misguided on is 1877 01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,000 Speaker 16: number one, the coach makes the decision as to who 1878 01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,880 Speaker 16: plays and if he is going to be removed from 1879 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:51,559 Speaker 16: the game. So it is Brian Dabole who has decided 1880 01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,960 Speaker 16: to send Daniel Jones out to take snaps from center, 1881 01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,800 Speaker 16: and it was Joe Shane who decided to sign Daniel 1882 01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:04,000 Speaker 16: Jones to a contract extension following the playoff victory over Minnesota. 1883 01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,719 Speaker 16: John Mara did not make either of those two decisions. 1884 01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,719 Speaker 16: So the points a bit misguided. But I do understand 1885 01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:11,280 Speaker 16: the frustration. 1886 01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand the frustration too. We hear you. You know, 1887 01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:18,880 Speaker 3: it's it's rough right now, you know, I hear I 1888 01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:22,040 Speaker 3: hear it because we're feeling it too, you know, over 1889 01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:25,000 Speaker 3: here at the Giants facility. You know, it was it 1890 01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:26,720 Speaker 3: was a little bit of highs but a lot of 1891 01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,439 Speaker 3: lows today. But that's kind of how it's been during 1892 01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:33,479 Speaker 3: the season, you know. And look, if Daniel Jones is 1893 01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,719 Speaker 3: the guy continue it moving forward, he has to play better, 1894 01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:38,240 Speaker 3: like there's no question about it. 1895 01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:41,960 Speaker 16: Today's a microcosm to some degree of what his season 1896 01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:46,360 Speaker 16: has been. He has certainly had some couple of bad games, 1897 01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:50,040 Speaker 16: and he had a bad half today, okay, But then 1898 01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,000 Speaker 16: on the flip side of it, you couldn't really complain 1899 01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,360 Speaker 16: much about the second half that he had because he 1900 01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:59,440 Speaker 16: brought them out of the quicksand and got them in overtime. 1901 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,240 Speaker 16: And in fact, the Giants won the toss and Daniel 1902 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,439 Speaker 16: Jones had nothing to do with that turnover they cost 1903 01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:06,920 Speaker 16: them the game. 1904 01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:10,360 Speaker 3: And I know the quarterback position is a very important position. 1905 01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,240 Speaker 3: I'm not taking anything from it the impact that you know, 1906 01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:17,719 Speaker 3: good quarterback play has, but it's not only Daniel Jones. 1907 01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:21,400 Speaker 3: It's not like everybody's catching every pass, you know. You know, 1908 01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:24,479 Speaker 3: Tracy fumbled the ball literally the last play of the 1909 01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:26,599 Speaker 3: Giants offense. He fumbled the ball. 1910 01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:27,240 Speaker 13: You know. 1911 01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,920 Speaker 3: Defensively, they haven't been able to stop the run the 1912 01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:34,759 Speaker 3: entire year, you know. So I'm not gonna take blame 1913 01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,400 Speaker 3: from Daniel Jones, but it needs to be distributed throughout 1914 01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:41,240 Speaker 3: the team because it's not like everybody's playing well defenses, 1915 01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:45,000 Speaker 3: shutting guys down, holding them to fourteen points. It's not happening. 1916 01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:45,600 Speaker 15: You know. 1917 01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:48,040 Speaker 3: The Giants are giving up a lot of rushing yards. 1918 01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:52,040 Speaker 3: The Giants are giving up, by the way, not like 1919 01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,519 Speaker 3: a lot of points. But there has been games where 1920 01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,600 Speaker 3: teams has you know, totally outscored the Giants and no 1921 01:35:57,680 --> 01:35:59,639 Speaker 3: matter what they would have did offensively, didn't have a chance. 1922 01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:01,720 Speaker 3: So I can't put it on one guy. I'm not 1923 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,599 Speaker 3: defending him because I think you need to put blame 1924 01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,880 Speaker 3: on the quarterback because he hasn't done a good enough 1925 01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,840 Speaker 3: job in the game that they lost to win those games. 1926 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:15,080 Speaker 3: He's had chances laden games to win games. Steelers game, 1927 01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:17,559 Speaker 3: he had several opportunities at the end of that game, 1928 01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:19,760 Speaker 3: you know, to win the game to do certain things, 1929 01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,679 Speaker 3: to move the protection, to block the best pass rusher 1930 01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:24,640 Speaker 3: in football on TJ. Why and he didn't do it. 1931 01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,160 Speaker 3: So I'm not defending him, but the blame needs to 1932 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,800 Speaker 3: get distributed because it's not one person that gives you 1933 01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,920 Speaker 3: a two in eight record. It's a collective effort. Just 1934 01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,120 Speaker 3: like if the team was eight and two, it wouldn't 1935 01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,160 Speaker 3: be just a quarterback. Everybody takes the blame for being 1936 01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:40,040 Speaker 3: two and eight. 1937 01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:43,839 Speaker 16: Everybody, all right, back to the phones and Robbie from Lenox. 1938 01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,120 Speaker 16: I'm not sure what state that's it is that Connecticut, 1939 01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,439 Speaker 16: New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania or somewhere else. 1940 01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:51,240 Speaker 15: Robbie, No, I'm in Lena's, Massachusetts of the Berkshire. I 1941 01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:54,040 Speaker 15: grew up in Fort Chester, Ryebrooks. So I've been for 1942 01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:54,840 Speaker 15: thirty seven years. 1943 01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,479 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, go, well, thanks for calling today. 1944 01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:59,559 Speaker 15: I even interviewed when I was a kid. Now I'm 1945 01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:02,280 Speaker 15: going to say my first Giant game nineteen seventy two, 1946 01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,840 Speaker 15: behind the polls at Yankee stay with my father right 1947 01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:08,160 Speaker 15: the right sixty They won sixty two to ten that day, 1948 01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,000 Speaker 15: and two interceptions from Carlspier, White Flucker. 1949 01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:14,320 Speaker 8: And Norm Schneid and Randy Johnson the Giants two quarterbacks. 1950 01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:16,200 Speaker 2: I remember it well, correct. 1951 01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:18,080 Speaker 15: I can't believe that's right, John. We've been talking for 1952 01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:19,000 Speaker 15: three years. 1953 01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,519 Speaker 16: Alow, no, no, this is this is Paul Robbie. That's okay, 1954 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,240 Speaker 16: you know trust me. John would have no idea about 1955 01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:25,280 Speaker 16: the seventy two Giants. 1956 01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:27,679 Speaker 15: Oh, that's right, he's overseas. I forgot it was you, Paulie. 1957 01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,639 Speaker 3: Anyway, listen, guys, Encyclopedia over here right. 1958 01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,400 Speaker 15: At the football and Zank l Padia. That's right. Anyway, 1959 01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:35,519 Speaker 15: guys who listened. But my first, my first problem, and 1960 01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,439 Speaker 15: I missed my radio show. I'm going back with the 1961 01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:39,880 Speaker 15: Massachusetts I do is life. My good buddy Ralph wrote 1962 01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:41,640 Speaker 15: me over but I never knows Ralph in Manhattan on 1963 01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,200 Speaker 15: the fan all the years. Anyway, sitting the hay after Ralph. 1964 01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:45,760 Speaker 15: But anyway, this is the point I have to make 1965 01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:48,439 Speaker 15: about the Giants. But it's a combination of mistakes at 1966 01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:51,840 Speaker 15: the combination of the quarterback. They have talent. I just 1967 01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:54,880 Speaker 15: feel that there needs to be more accountability. Guys need 1968 01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,799 Speaker 15: to be angrier. This reminds me a lot guys nineteen 1969 01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:00,800 Speaker 15: seventy nine, nineteen eighty, when the Giants still had some 1970 01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,320 Speaker 15: pride with their defense. I'm very disappointed in the defense 1971 01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:05,519 Speaker 15: right now in Shaane Boden. Is it the talent? I 1972 01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:07,840 Speaker 15: guess you, guys. Is it the talent? Is it the scheme? 1973 01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,679 Speaker 15: You got Fabio Karake? You signed me at eleven tackles? 1974 01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:10,920 Speaker 3: Stay? 1975 01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,120 Speaker 15: You know what Dexter Lauren is all about. You went 1976 01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,240 Speaker 15: out and you signed Burns. What's the problem with the 1977 01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,439 Speaker 15: Giant deep If the secondary, you know, is young, I'm 1978 01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,400 Speaker 15: willing to give this young team. Think about this, guys, 1979 01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:22,200 Speaker 15: Think about Tracy next year with a new quarterback. What's 1980 01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:25,439 Speaker 15: the Washington Redskins dude? Sorry, the Thrustington commanders, Well, I 1981 01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:26,360 Speaker 15: call him the commentours. 1982 01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:29,040 Speaker 8: Anyway, what did they do? 1983 01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:30,880 Speaker 15: Okay? Okay? So what okay? 1984 01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:31,680 Speaker 7: So what did they do? 1985 01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,759 Speaker 15: Right? Okay? They went out and they got themselves a quarterback? 1986 01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:36,040 Speaker 15: And look how much better they are. I know their 1987 01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:38,280 Speaker 15: schedule has been a little light, that they got themselves 1988 01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:40,599 Speaker 15: the quarterback. Guys, just think of this team with a winging, 1989 01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,679 Speaker 15: consistent quarterback behind an improve up offensive line with Dalen 1990 01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,639 Speaker 15: Hyde and Malik Neighbors, a young tight end and Tracy, 1991 01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,040 Speaker 15: and just see how much better they're gonna do with 1992 01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:51,120 Speaker 15: the young quarterback. They got to get a different quarterback. 1993 01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,960 Speaker 15: That's it. And the coach I have problems with him. 1994 01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:55,760 Speaker 15: I think you got to keep it simple. I go 1995 01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,760 Speaker 15: back to Bill Parcell. Keep it simple when Tracy's running 1996 01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:00,360 Speaker 15: the ball. Well, please don't put the game in the 1997 01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,920 Speaker 15: hands of Daniel Jones, just like in San Francisco and 1998 01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:04,439 Speaker 15: the Super Bowl, and they tried to put the hands 1999 01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,840 Speaker 15: of a quarterback to me who wasn't good enough, except 2000 01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:09,760 Speaker 15: you know, the running game was much better for the 2001 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:11,679 Speaker 15: forty nine ers and they blew it because he tried, 2002 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,320 Speaker 15: you know, to make a gloppolo both football. So just 2003 01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:15,720 Speaker 15: don't put it in the hands of Daniel Jones. What 2004 01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,120 Speaker 15: do you guys think? And I'll let you go and 2005 01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:18,200 Speaker 15: appreciate the time guys as go. 2006 01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:19,639 Speaker 8: All right, Robbie, thanks for the call. 2007 01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:24,080 Speaker 16: Now, as of this past week, going into this weekend's games, 2008 01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:28,240 Speaker 16: the Giants had twenty seven drop passes, including half of 2009 01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:30,920 Speaker 16: them that would have been conversions for first downs beyond 2010 01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:36,400 Speaker 16: the sticks. Okay, number the Washington Commanders had single digits. 2011 01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:40,280 Speaker 16: I believe their number, was it eight or six? I 2012 01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:42,679 Speaker 16: know they were in single digits. So let me ask 2013 01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:44,800 Speaker 16: you a question, Robbie. I know you're already gone, So 2014 01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:47,120 Speaker 16: I'm going to ask you, Jonathan, how do you think 2015 01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:50,720 Speaker 16: Jayden Daniels would feel if, going into today's action he 2016 01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:54,880 Speaker 16: had another twenty or so drop passes than what he's 2017 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,000 Speaker 16: had so far from his commander's teammates, do you think 2018 01:39:58,120 --> 01:39:59,360 Speaker 16: his numbers would be as good? 2019 01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,040 Speaker 8: Would he have won as many games? I would submit 2020 01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:02,519 Speaker 8: to you not. 2021 01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:07,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree. It's like I said, there's not 2022 01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,479 Speaker 3: you can't blame one person like you can't do that. 2023 01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:14,600 Speaker 3: You know, the Giants digging themselves in the hole the 2024 01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:18,280 Speaker 3: last two weeks is not strictly on Daniel Jones. It's 2025 01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:21,799 Speaker 3: the defense allowing rushing yards. It's a defense allowing big plays. 2026 01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:25,759 Speaker 3: It's receivers not catching the football. It's it's the penalties 2027 01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,840 Speaker 3: that happened, right, And was it Ron that we were 2028 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:33,839 Speaker 3: just speaking Robbie, Robbie, Sorry rob Last week, the Giants 2029 01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,960 Speaker 3: ran the ball for one hundred and forty yards in 2030 01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:38,519 Speaker 3: the first half. I know it was like one fifteen 2031 01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,960 Speaker 3: in the first quarter, if I'm not mistaken. 2032 01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,519 Speaker 16: Well, Tracy had I believe it was almost sixty by himself, 2033 01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:45,360 Speaker 16: right or was it eighty something like that? 2034 01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,800 Speaker 3: But they definitely had over one hundred rushing yards in 2035 01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:50,160 Speaker 3: the first half, which is great, right, But what was 2036 01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,000 Speaker 3: the score at the end of the first half they 2037 01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:56,519 Speaker 3: were down It was twenty one to seven, Like like, yes, 2038 01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,519 Speaker 3: it's running, it's running is working, but is it really 2039 01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,800 Speaker 3: working if you only have seven points? You know, so 2040 01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,840 Speaker 3: I hear your point. But at the same time, you know, 2041 01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:08,439 Speaker 3: you look at the Giants pass rush. Right, some of 2042 01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:12,320 Speaker 3: these stats are are almost misleading stats because the number 2043 01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:14,840 Speaker 3: one stat that truly matters is the win losses. That 2044 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:16,479 Speaker 3: is the number one stat. 2045 01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:18,400 Speaker 8: That's the only stat to get you into the playoffs, right. 2046 01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:22,839 Speaker 3: And the number two stat that matters is the turnover ratio. 2047 01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:25,559 Speaker 3: And the Giants are not doing well in that regard. 2048 01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,160 Speaker 3: And they lost what three oh today? Did they get 2049 01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,160 Speaker 3: a turnover? Right the Giants create? 2050 01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:30,760 Speaker 2: They did? 2051 01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:32,880 Speaker 3: They got they got a thumber recover, right, yeah, the 2052 01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,479 Speaker 3: thumb recovery. So the Giants lost three to one today. 2053 01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:39,280 Speaker 3: You know the reason why the Giants record is you 2054 01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,479 Speaker 3: can point directly to that. The Giants don't take the 2055 01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:45,519 Speaker 3: ball away enough. They only have one interception on the year. 2056 01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,880 Speaker 3: The Giants are not turnover crazy on offense. They don't 2057 01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,240 Speaker 3: really turn the ball over that much today was three. 2058 01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,479 Speaker 3: But they're not leading the league in turnovers, but they're 2059 01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:57,439 Speaker 3: at the bottom bottom half of the league when it 2060 01:41:57,479 --> 01:41:59,960 Speaker 3: comes to the ratio because they don't take the ball away. 2061 01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:03,479 Speaker 3: That has nothing to do with the offense. Takeaways is 2062 01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,519 Speaker 3: strictly defense. And the reason why I'm putting emphasis on 2063 01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,360 Speaker 3: that because they're very much capable of doing that. If 2064 01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:12,759 Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, Bobbiokarak himself was responsible for six turnovers 2065 01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:14,760 Speaker 3: last year. If I'm not mistaken, he was a guy 2066 01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:17,200 Speaker 3: that did it very frequently in the passing game and 2067 01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,880 Speaker 3: the run game. So for me, I'm a defensive guy. 2068 01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:23,839 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna blame my quarterback. I'm gonna look internally. 2069 01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:25,800 Speaker 3: First of all, I'm gonna look at myself, and then 2070 01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna look at my room, my linebacker room, and 2071 01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:30,040 Speaker 3: then I'm gonna look around as well. But I'm gonna 2072 01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,280 Speaker 3: look at myself first. That's what Dexter said, you know, 2073 01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:34,559 Speaker 3: That's what his comment said. You gotta look at yourself first, 2074 01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:38,400 Speaker 3: improve yourself, you know. And for me, I'm a defensive guy. 2075 01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:41,599 Speaker 3: I want the defense to play better because they can 2076 01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:45,040 Speaker 3: and sometimes when you have a struggle offense struggling offense. 2077 01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:47,639 Speaker 3: A defense that can hold a team to fourteen points 2078 01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,559 Speaker 3: will give this offense more hope, will give them more 2079 01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:54,800 Speaker 3: possessions and more chances to score. And look, there's no 2080 01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:57,280 Speaker 3: question that the offense is struggling there the bottom when 2081 01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:59,200 Speaker 3: it comes to points, at the bottom, when it comes 2082 01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:01,400 Speaker 3: to touchdowns, the bottom of the league. I get it. 2083 01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:05,599 Speaker 3: But the defense is built from the bottom up. When 2084 01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:08,479 Speaker 3: I say the bottom, Dexter Lawrence is playing some really 2085 01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:12,280 Speaker 3: good football. Burns had a great game today, started fast, 2086 01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:15,479 Speaker 3: got hurt, came back in the game. There's nobody playing 2087 01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,080 Speaker 3: harder than the defenders. They have to figure out a 2088 01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:21,560 Speaker 3: way to get the offense more possessions because that's what 2089 01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:22,000 Speaker 3: they need. 2090 01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:24,200 Speaker 16: All right, real quick, I want to get to Wandelle 2091 01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:27,160 Speaker 16: Robinson for just a minute. He's one of those young, maturing, 2092 01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:29,720 Speaker 16: growing players that the Giants are going to be counting on. 2093 01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:33,400 Speaker 8: Of course, again this coming after today's loss, I don't 2094 01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:34,000 Speaker 8: know what's. 2095 01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:36,320 Speaker 23: Going on with the back end, with the running backs, 2096 01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:38,320 Speaker 23: of the line, with the quarterbacks, so I don't want 2097 01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:42,280 Speaker 23: to put anything on them. And obviously, if if I 2098 01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:44,000 Speaker 23: get to play Queer Birkday what a Vert said, I 2099 01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:45,000 Speaker 23: have to watch it. 2100 01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:45,760 Speaker 7: And see what was going on. 2101 01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:47,760 Speaker 23: So two and eight, where you guys go for the year. 2102 01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:53,720 Speaker 23: We're going into the bio. Everybody just kissing recoup, gither 2103 01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:55,080 Speaker 23: away from football for a little bit at the end 2104 01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,879 Speaker 23: of the league, but obviously coming to work on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, 2105 01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:01,840 Speaker 23: and still got some business to handle in the season. 2106 01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:02,120 Speaker 15: Not over. 2107 01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:04,479 Speaker 23: We're still far from over, and we can't just go 2108 01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:06,280 Speaker 23: out there and laying egg for the rest of the yarself, 2109 01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,280 Speaker 23: all right, we still went out there to get wins. 2110 01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:11,479 Speaker 7: Do you feel like you needs to make major changes? 2111 01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:18,840 Speaker 23: That's about my fay grade, and That's not what I'm 2112 01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,000 Speaker 23: here to do. 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