1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Hello, my friends, Hello, Hello, welcome to love someone with Delilah. 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: What songs are you listening to these days? What music 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: are you listening to? If it's anything recorded in the 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: last forty fifty years, there is a good chance my 5 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: guest today might have had something to do with it. 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Anyone who has paid attention to the music industry knows 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: the name Clive Davis. Mister Davis is a record producer, 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: a lawyer that's won five Grammys and has been inducted 9 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Clive Davis 10 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: was born in Brooklyn, New York, in nineteen thirty two. 11 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: His road to music productions superstardom was anything but a 12 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: straight line. He graduated from Harvard Law School in nineteen 13 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: fifty six and practiced law in a small firm in 14 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: New York before being hired as assistant counsel of Columbia 15 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: Records at the age of twenty eight. He became their 16 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: general counsel the following year. As part of a reorganization 17 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: of Columbia Records Group, mister Davis was appointed as Administrative 18 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: VP and General manager in nineteen sixty five. He was 19 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: the president of Columbia Records until the early seventies, and 20 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: then in nineteen seventy four he founded Arista Records, which 21 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: he ran for nearly thirty years. In the early years, 22 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: he founded Jay Records and a few years later became 23 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: the CEO of RCA Music Group, which included RCA Records, 24 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Jay Records, and Arista Records. As of twenty eighteen, Clive 25 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: Davis as the chief creative officer of Sony Music Entertainment, 26 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: and he's now ninety three years old. That's his curriculum, 27 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: but it's Clive Davis's unparalleled, inexplainable, somewhat mythical, magical ear 28 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: that has been the key to his very long, very 29 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: successful career in music production and the superstardom of untold artist. 30 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: How does one intuitively know a future success when they 31 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: watch a performance of a young, raw, unrefined musical artist 32 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: or group. And we're not talking just a single genre. 33 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: Tony Orlando, Pink Floyd, Janice Joplin, Santana, Bruce Springsteen, Chicago Aerosmith, 34 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: Billy Joel Donovan, Bay City Rollers, and the list goes 35 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: on and on and on. He brought other less known 36 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: artists into the spotlight whose names are now as familiar 37 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: to us as our own. After He's H's Sissy Houston's 38 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: daughter Whitney, perform at a New York City nightclub, mister 39 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: Davis signed her. Under his guidance, she became one of 40 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: the biggest stars in music history. He signed Alicia Keys 41 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: when she was nineteen and heavily influenced her image and sound, 42 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: leading her to multiple Grammys. Barry Manilow had already released 43 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: an album, nobody paid much attention to it when Clive 44 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: Davis saw him performing at Woolman Rink skating rink in 45 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: New York City. When Barry opened for Dion Warwick. Clive 46 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: Davis was impressed. He saw star potential in Barry and 47 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: decided to retain him. Barry was working on his second 48 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: album at the time. Clive Davis suggested that he had 49 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: a song called Mandy and the rest is an enduring 50 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: fifty year history between the two that's turning out hits 51 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: even today. Once Before I Go is a beautiful song 52 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: written by the late Peter Allen in his writing part 53 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: Nardine Pitchford, and was recorded by Barry last fall, and 54 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: as of March third had reached the top ten on 55 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: the music charts once again. It was Clive Davis who said, Hey, 56 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: maybe you should record this Barry Today. I'm thrilled to 57 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: welcome the legendary Clive Davis to Love Someone with Delilah. 58 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: We're going to hear from Clive in just a minute. 59 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: Can I first tell you about one of my incredible 60 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: podcast sponsors. 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Producer Deanna, who's on here, said to me, 81 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: as I was preparing to get to talk to you, 82 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: because you're such a legend, she said, well, you guys 83 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: have been in partnership now for fifty years. And I said, 84 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you're right, because I started playing the 85 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: music that you were bringing to the world in nineteen 86 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: seventy five. Wow, that's when I started my radio career. 87 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: Okay, so we thought it together. 88 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: So basically we've been in this thing together for a 89 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: minute now. Clive. That's amazing, And this is the first 90 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: time I've had the pleasure of the joy of meeting you. 91 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: So welcome, Thank you, welcome, thank you. 92 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: So I went down a list of just a smattering, 93 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: just a drop in the bucket, Clive, of some of 94 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: the artists that you have been instrumental in bringing to 95 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: the radio airwaves over the years, and I'm like, oh 96 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: my gosh, I've not only played music for most of them. 97 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: I've had a chance to interview or have a lot 98 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: of them on my show over the years. So thank 99 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: you for your passion for music. 100 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take it. 101 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: And today we're going to talk about mister Manilo Berry, 102 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: who was a kid, a veritable child when you started 103 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: working with him. Tell me about this new song why 104 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: now once before I go, and then we're going to 105 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: dive into some of the history that you two have 106 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: had together over the last fifty years. 107 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: You know, we're in an era which is dominated by 108 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: hip hop. We're in an era that's dominated totally by 109 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: so much by streammate and so that hip hop is 110 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: not mostly known for lyric content. It's for sounds, for drums, 111 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: it's for baines or track And I was worried that 112 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: the ballot, but for so many years was a mainstay 113 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: of bringing forth some of the greatest talent in the 114 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: world to the front, would be ignored. That would happen 115 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: the roughest of times in breaking through on your charts. 116 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: And it was verified because I looked at your chart 117 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: so for many years in the wild, several and it's 118 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: rand that a ballot survived the surface. So when I 119 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: heard this song, and Peter Allen and Dean Food broke one. 120 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: Before I go, I said, water letric. It is a 121 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: modern day by the way, I've got to bring it 122 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 2: to Barry's attention. So I called him when I was 123 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: in Palm Springs and I told him I think he 124 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: should add it to his act. That's a very end 125 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: right now. Who's biggest in person, believe it or not, 126 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: the environment alone? He sold out ten thousand. 127 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: He sells out every night. He is a not just 128 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: a legend, but such a mainstay when people talk about 129 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: and I don't care if you're you know, thirty or 130 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: seventy when you want to go see a good act. 131 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: You want to go see mister Manelo. 132 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: Without carts then? And why because the songs have held out? 133 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: Why because the souls are standard? Why the audience knows 134 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: every word of every song? 135 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: Don't you think they're woven into our dna? At this point, 136 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: Clive elaborate on that, like the songs, like you said, 137 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: the lyrics are in our our dna to the point 138 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: where we know that one note, one note of Mandy 139 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: and you know that feeling that it brings up from 140 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: that time in your life when you were listening to that. 141 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: Oh true, Oh very trill. It's true. It looks like 142 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: we made you can't smile without your weekend in New England. 143 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: I made it through the rain and I said this, 144 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: it can't stop right now. And I made it give 145 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 2: with them that I would go to with Neward show 146 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,599 Speaker 2: if he at the end, after doing I write the 147 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: songs and copa about it would come out with the 148 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: towel sam in the audience, and that I am advocating 149 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: him singing this song. And he did that. And I 150 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: looked at the audience when he was seeing once before 151 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: I go, and they were all sobbing and shaping and 152 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: clients fixed, and I one was all over. And when 153 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: Barry got their approval that yes he should record it, 154 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: I was so so fulfilled. And so we called Bigditas 155 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: and to produce the record. And the end result is 156 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: what is being played by you on your wonderful station, 157 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: so that a miracle is happening. Barn Mantel admittedly is 158 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: eighty two years old. 159 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: That is a miracle. That is a miracle for people 160 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: who don't understand how youth driven our industry is. And 161 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: for somebody who has been around the block three times, 162 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: maybe four to have a song that is in the 163 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: top ten, right now, come on, no. 164 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: I mean I wanted your audience. I wanted you the power, 165 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: the audience incredible that you have built over the years 166 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: to hearing. I want to see a number one. I 167 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: want to see it before it's over. I want to 168 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: see it as the same as as mandate. And that's 169 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: why I am here. And though it's an additional pleasure, 170 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: is a great respect for you who have revolutionized radio 171 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: and I've built this unbelievable audience today. 172 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: I've had a hell of a lot of fun, that's 173 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: for sure. Like I said, when I was going through 174 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:51,119 Speaker 1: that list of people that you have brought to the forefront, 175 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: brought to us the music, the songs, I was emotional. 176 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: I was very emotional because it's the story of my 177 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: life and the lyrics of the song. Once before I 178 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: go if I ever retire, which I'm not going to, 179 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going to have a microphone in my 180 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: face in the coffin, But if I were to ever 181 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: decide to leave this career, this would be my sign 182 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: off song. I mean, it's just so powerful, all those feelings, 183 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this has been an amazing journey. But 184 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: before I go, Before I go, we got a little 185 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: more love to share here, a little more joy to 186 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: share via the airwaves, a little more magic. 187 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: I'm buddy, well, would you want? Let's go for it? 188 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: So what are the lyrics of the song? You said 189 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: when you heard it, you knew that it was magical, 190 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: that it was powerful. What does it speak to your 191 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: heart when you listen. 192 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: It speaks for Chell once? Before I go, I wanted 193 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: you to know that I would be all again. I'm 194 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: sure i'd make the same mistakes, that I could make 195 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: it through the paint and join and mate I do 196 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: back then, I would do it all. I'd do it 197 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 2: all again before I go. I want you to know 198 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: that I look back with no regrets, and when our 199 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: luck was wearing thin and we were down and out 200 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: and still came back to win against all beds. Now, 201 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: when I look back, I still have no regrets. And 202 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: so it's hard to say goodbye when there's so much 203 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: less left uncertain in your eyes. But unless I spread 204 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: my wings again, I'm afraid I'll never saw. So hang 205 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: on to the memory and hold me close once more. 206 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: So kiss me for the last time, and hold me 207 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: just once more just one before I go. 208 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: So, as I'm listening to you read those lyrics, and 209 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: as I was listening to Barry sing them, I was 210 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: feeling them from my point of view as a woman 211 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: who has been incredibly blessed to live a really, really 212 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: full life. And I was thinking, how, you know, I 213 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: would like to share that with my children and my 214 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: grandchildren and my great granddaughter, and share it with my audience. 215 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: And then I something flipped when I was listening to 216 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: the chorus when Barry was singing it, and I thought, 217 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: what a perfect song for a child who is leaving 218 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: home to play for a parent. Like it's not just 219 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: those of us who've lived lived rich, full lives, but 220 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: how appropriate would that be for a best friend to 221 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: play for her best friend from grade school as she 222 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: goes off to get married. I mean, it's so good 223 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: for so many situations where you're transitioning to that next 224 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: chapter of life. 225 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: That's why you're Delilah, and that's why there's only one view. 226 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: I'm telling you to answer the iss I'd feel it. 227 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: Everything you said is is true. 228 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: There are so many, so many times in our life 229 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: where we enter a new chapter. And for me, I 230 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: didn't even know I was entering a new chapter. Like 231 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: I have a friend who used to be in radio. 232 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: She's in banking now, go figure. But when she was 233 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: in radio, she shared a story and she said, if 234 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: I had known it was my last night at home, 235 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: I would have enjoyed it more. But in an instant, 236 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: in the blink of an eye, everything in her life 237 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: changed and she was thrown into adulthood long before she 238 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: thought she was going to be. She said, if I 239 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: had known it was my last night, I would have 240 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: enjoyed it more. And shortly thereafter, I knew I was 241 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: getting fired from a radio station, Clive in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Boston. 242 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't remember. I've been fired so damn many times. 243 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: But I knew that I was getting fired because I 244 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: saw a letter addressed to a radio station that didn't 245 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: exist yet. So I called a friend at the FCC 246 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: and found out that my station was changing formats and 247 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: we were all going to be let go, like in 248 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: a week's time. So I had the good fortune of 249 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: knowing I was about to get fired. So I said, 250 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: you know what, I remember what Linda said, if I 251 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: knew it was my last night, I would have enjoyed it. 252 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: More so I went on the air and I'm like, 253 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to play every song I ever wanted to play, 254 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: because what are they going to do? Fire me? But 255 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: if I'd had this song once before I go, that 256 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: would have been my sign off song that night. It's 257 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: such a great anthem of man, I've had a great 258 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: ride and I'm going to miss this chapter, but I 259 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: gotta spread my wings and sore. 260 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 261 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: This was used in by Hugh Jackman, right, he sang 262 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: this in Uh what was the play oz the Boy 263 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: from the Boy from Oz? 264 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, he played Peter Rollin and that is the 265 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: song Peter co wrote, and of course it was so touching. 266 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: That's my first exposed trip to the song. 267 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: And when you heard him do it, you said, I 268 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: got to I gotta get I gotta get my friend Barry. 269 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: How many years have you guys been close? You and 270 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: Barry Menilo. 271 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: Barry and I met in nineteen seventy five, so we're 272 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: fifty years strong. And it's hard to believe it. I'm 273 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: sure you realize that, just very very very hard to 274 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: believe it. But this opportunity today to really break and 275 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: explode once before I go to the top of the 276 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 2: jobs is clearly burning in a hearts. I don't hesitate 277 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: to say it, and any help and all continuing help 278 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: from you is really touching and greatly appreciated. 279 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: The first time I met Barry, I was working in 280 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: Seattle and I went to his show. I want to 281 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: say it was at the Kingdome, but it might have 282 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: been at the arena where the Sonics used to play 283 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: when they I had a team, And I saw him 284 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: on stage before I met him, and as you know, 285 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: he is larger than life on stage, He's seven foot tall, 286 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: and he has the energy of ten energizer bunnies. You know, 287 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: he just when he's on stage, it's like he feeds 288 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: off the energy of the audience to such a he 289 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: didn't want to stop playing. I mean it was like 290 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: a two and a half hour show, and he would 291 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: have played for two more hours, I think if they 292 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: would have let him. I met him the next day 293 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: in the studio. He came on my show, and I 294 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: was flabbergasted because in the studio he was so calm 295 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: and quiet and such a gentle man, such a gentle spirit, 296 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait a minute, I saw you jumping 297 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: around the stage playing your guts out with the energy 298 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: of a basketball team last night. And he was such 299 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: a beautiful, sweet, kind, but very subdued man in the studio. 300 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: Which version of Barry do you see more often? Because 301 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: you've I'm sure seen him perform a thousand times. 302 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: Wow, these is some of all parts. He can be 303 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: quiet and touching, he could be really out there and lively, 304 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: and Dan saying he is the sum of all parts. 305 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: And I'm amazed at the passage of fifty years. 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And everybody that I interview are 350 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: people who use their gifts and talents and skills to 351 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: change the world for good. And Clive, do you ever 352 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: sit back and think about how much richer our world 353 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: is because the passion that you had for the last 354 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: six decades to bring music, good music, great music, some loud, 355 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: some rock and rolls, some rap, But your passion was 356 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: to share that with us. I can't imagine a world 357 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: without Mandy, without Barry Manilow, without the music of Santana, 358 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: without the music of Janice Joplin, and how many hundreds 359 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: of artists that you were instrumental in sharing with us. 360 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: Do you ever give yourself permission to sit back and 361 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: go damn, it is a much better world because the 362 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: gifts that I was given, you were given and the 363 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: intuition you have. Do you ever give yourself permission to 364 00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: just think about that? 365 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: You know I would give permission, But you know, Delilah, 366 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: I'm lucky enough to feel it every night when I 367 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: go out for Restall. There's never a time that someone 368 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: doesn't come over me with profound gratitude about the music. 369 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: I'd say, is our life inspired them, will fill them, 370 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: stayed with them. So I'm so lucky that every night 371 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: this occurs, I have to paint myself and realize, well, 372 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: we're doing it and we got to continue to do it. 373 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: All I know is that people are always going to 374 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: want good music. People are always going to want something new, 375 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: something fresh, something that speaks to the heart. People are 376 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: always going to want to feel connected to that music. 377 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: I'm not a musician, I'm not a writer. I'm not 378 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: a singer. I've written a few lyrics, but my role 379 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: is to be the matre d to introduce my listeners, 380 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, on this platform or another platform 381 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: in the future. My role has been to introduce my 382 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: listeners to the songs that will be the soundtrack of 383 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: their life. And you're the one that brought those songs 384 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: to me, to our industry, to our world. You're the 385 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: one that said, yes, I see something in this young kid, 386 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: Like what did you see in Barry Manilow he was 387 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: a kid. What was it that you saw in him 388 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: that you said, this kid's got that magic thing? 389 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 2: You never think they would become out. So we're named 390 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: all over the world. You're making, you signing, you're feeling talented, 391 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: really talented enough to sign And so the rest has 392 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: been our history of taking its hire and higher. Neither 393 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: was thought we would have all these hits, the songs 394 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 2: and as current today as they were years ago. So 395 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: it's really been blessing and then brilliant. 396 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: So what inspires you when you wake up in the 397 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: morning and you take that first breath and you're like, 398 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: I'm still breathing, I'm still standing. What inspires you to 399 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: keep going my gosh. Most people would have said, you 400 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: know what, forget about it. I'm not I am not 401 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: spending any more energy making any more hits. And here 402 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: you are doing the circuit. 403 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: Because we have a mission. We have a mission in 404 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: this day of the bab to take this song once 405 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: before I go and make it an evergreen standard and 406 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 2: go to the top for the drats who would have 407 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: bet on it? 408 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: Nobody, nobody, nobody. It's the horse that's coming from behind 409 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: the chile of. 410 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: This from the minute I wake up. It's driven me 411 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: to be with you today. 412 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: So you like it, challenge, you like to bet on 413 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: the underdog? 414 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: I like that exactly. 415 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well let's do it. Let's introduce the world to 416 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: the song, and let's let people hear these beautiful lyrics 417 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: and then gift it when it's time to close a 418 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: chapter and open the next door. Okay, okay, I'm with you, Clive, 419 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. 420 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: For all that. While, thank you so much. 421 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: All right, you have a great day and you bye bye, 422 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: bye bye. We all know his name, but have you 423 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: any idea how he's guided and shaped our music industry? 424 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: Probably not spend some time, do a little research. You'll 425 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: be amazed at the number of hit songs he's been 426 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: responsible for over the past five decades. About Lynn Anderson's Rosegarden. 427 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: It was Clive Davis who insisted it be the country 428 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: singer's next single release. The song was a number one 429 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: hit in sixteen countries worldwide, and Rose Garden remained the 430 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: best selling album by a female country artist for twenty 431 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: seven years. That's just one out of so many Clive 432 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: Davis stories songs. He gave his magical touch to Mandy, 433 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: the first singer of Barry Manilow's second album, released in 434 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: seventy four, marked Arista's first major release. The single Sword 435 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: to number one, establishing both Barry Manilo as a star 436 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: and the record company as a serious contender in the 437 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: music industry. More singles like It's a Miracle and Could 438 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: It Be Magic? Since the album's huge success. On Barry's 439 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: third album, Clive Davis suggested I write the songs written 440 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: by Bruce Johnson of The Beach Boys. It became another 441 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: number one hit, of course, and like so many of 442 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: the songs Clive Davis worked his magic on, it became 443 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: the soundtrack for Our Lives. Clive Davis, now ninety three 444 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: years old, Barry Manilow is eighty two. They've both had 445 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: remarkably long, successful runs and have a remarkable impact. And 446 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: now they've gifted us with once More Before I Go. 447 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: Get It, listen to it, stream it, download it by 448 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: the twelve inch vinyl single available now. Wats for Barry 449 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: Manilow's upcoming album What a Time featuring Once Before I Go. 450 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: It will be released later this year and hopefully coincide 451 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: with an upcoming arena tour that you better believe I 452 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: will be attending. Visit Barrymanilo dot com to keep up 453 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: on all of his performances and the album release. Nobody, 454 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: but nobody has had the influence on the musical industry 455 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: that Clive Davis has had. He has no peer. He 456 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: continues to share his gifts and talents with the world 457 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: by amplifying the gifts and talents of music artists. Head 458 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: to Clivedavis dot com to discover more about this incredibly 459 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: talented man. Watch some of the many videos that will 460 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: give you more insights as to his life and his work. 461 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: What an opportunity this has been. I want to encourage 462 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: you to use your gifts, your talents, your skills to 463 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: encourage as many people as Clive Davis has for us 464 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: over the years.