WEBVTT - Psychic medium with Tyler Henry

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Hi, Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Hi, Hi. I'm very very vibrant this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, because I haven't had a drink for a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of days, and I just feel so much better.

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<v Speaker 2>When I don't drink.

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<v Speaker 3>But obviously that's not gonna last, so I try and

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<v Speaker 3>take a couple down days, you know. But I mean

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<v Speaker 3>with summertime, it's just very difficult. Too many social engagements,

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<v Speaker 3>too much traveling. The most amount of time I spend

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<v Speaker 3>sober is probably on an airplane.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like to drink on planes.

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<v Speaker 1>It does make you feel extra yacky when you get

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<v Speaker 1>off the plane.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't like to mess with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to get on a plane, take a Xanax,

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<v Speaker 3>go to sleep, wake up, and feel fresh as a daisy.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, that's the way to do it. I once took

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<v Speaker 1>an adavan on a flight and like watched an entire

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<v Speaker 1>movie for good. I watched the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to My Whole fucking Life. I don't even so.

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<v Speaker 3>I've watched entire series and not remembered that I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>them until like rewatching.

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<v Speaker 2>Them in three episodes in Yeah, I'm a hot mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I'm like half asleep, you know. I like to

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<v Speaker 3>fall asleep to television. I know they say, don't do that,

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<v Speaker 3>but I got this.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing those Court's face mask that I sleep on. Is

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<v Speaker 2>it cold, Well, it feels cold.

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<v Speaker 3>It gets warm in the night, but it's like just

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<v Speaker 3>because it's crystals. So I have a full face one

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<v Speaker 3>and I have a half face one. I've been sleeping

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<v Speaker 3>with that and any under eye puffiness or swelling or

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<v Speaker 3>anything like that, it just gets everything out. So I've

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<v Speaker 3>been I'm really into that lately. Anyway, I go to

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<v Speaker 3>sleep with the TV on, I put on my rose

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<v Speaker 3>Quartz mask, and then eventually I turned.

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<v Speaker 2>The TV off.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, who's paying attention to television anymore? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's so hard to pay attention to anything

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<v Speaker 3>because we all have such add adhd add by all

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<v Speaker 3>the bipolar disorder, multiple personality borderline. Anyway, Okay, guys, we

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<v Speaker 3>have added more shows to my Little Big Bitch tour

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm coming all over. We add a second show

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<v Speaker 3>at the Pantagius in Los Angeles, so that's October twelfth

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<v Speaker 3>and Friday the thirteenth, which is my favorite day of

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<v Speaker 3>the year. We added a second show in Boston at

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<v Speaker 3>the Weighing Center September twenty ninth and thirtieth is two

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<v Speaker 3>in New York. I also have a show in Eastthampton,

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<v Speaker 3>New York, August twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>We added a.

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<v Speaker 3>Second show in Portland, So Thursday November tewod Friday November third,

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<v Speaker 3>and Portland November fourth and fifth in San Francisco, two

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<v Speaker 3>shows there. We added a second show in Seattle November

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<v Speaker 3>tenth and eleventh. Two shows Boston are November sixteenth and

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<v Speaker 3>seventeenth at the Bach Center at Wang Theater. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>also coming to Toronto and Montreal and Ottawa and so

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<v Speaker 3>many other cities Columbus, Cincinnati, Detroit, Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>So I will see everybody at all of these shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Get your tickets at Chelseahandler dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Chelsea. Have you always believed in something beyond our physical world,

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<v Speaker 1>like what we can't see sort of thing, maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>a higher power, but an afterlife?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess, yeah, I know, I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>hoped so right, Like I think when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 3>I believed in God because that was instilled in me

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<v Speaker 3>that there was a God. And then as I became

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<v Speaker 3>in my teens, I was questioning it a lot, but

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<v Speaker 3>always kind of I've always felt like there's something personally

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<v Speaker 3>like watching over me, like protecting me. Like I've always

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<v Speaker 3>felt like, oh, there's something protecting me, there's something steering me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm accountable to this invisible eye in the sky. So

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<v Speaker 3>when there's a choice to make the good decision or

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<v Speaker 3>the bad decision, I always make the good one because

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I there's a witness Meanwhile, that's like

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<v Speaker 3>a fantasy. But as I've grown older, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>my brother's death and my mother's death makes me believe

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<v Speaker 3>in mysticism makes me believe in the other. I believe

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<v Speaker 3>there is a universal intelligence. The more that I've read

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<v Speaker 3>and discovered, and then therapy also really made me. I

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<v Speaker 3>always went to psychics and stuff because I like that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff. Yeah, but I never necessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>Always believed it. But sometimes it's just very comforting.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that now that I've witnessed all those

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<v Speaker 3>little miracles, like I was yesterday looking at I took

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<v Speaker 3>my girlfriends are in town, and I went to take

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<v Speaker 3>them to my new house that's going to be ready never.

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<v Speaker 2>And someday they're like, it'll be ready in August.

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<v Speaker 3>My girlfriends are like, Uh, there's no way this house

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be ready in August.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's like, there's no way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, watch this house, by the way, that you

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about renovating when this podcast started.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know it's been I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>the joke is on me.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe how much time I've spent in rentals

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<v Speaker 3>wasting money. Well anyway, but my friend we left there

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<v Speaker 3>and we're at the dinner last night with a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of girlfriends and my friend was like, uh, did you

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<v Speaker 3>see that hummingbird just circling your front door when we

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<v Speaker 3>were walking in. She goes, you were talking to the

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<v Speaker 3>contractors and the designers and there was a hummingbird just circling, circling, circling,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when.

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<v Speaker 2>We walked in.

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<v Speaker 3>So a psychic had said to me, you know, your mother,

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<v Speaker 3>the way your parents, your mother, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>dead people come back are as birds whatever. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>easy because you can always Yeah, if you're a cynic,

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<v Speaker 3>you can be like, well, they're birds everywhere, but a

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<v Speaker 3>hummingbird specifically. And they also told me watch out for nests.

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<v Speaker 3>When you move into a place or you have a house,

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<v Speaker 3>watch out for nests in weird places because your mother

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<v Speaker 3>is forming nests and that's where she hangs out is

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<v Speaker 3>around your house in Whistler. My property guy called me

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<v Speaker 3>and he goes, you know, you have a nest right

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<v Speaker 3>outside your front door.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a bunch of hummingbirds up here. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, what so yesterday, this was six

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<v Speaker 3>months ago. Yesterday my friend was like, you know, there

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<v Speaker 3>was a hummingbird outside your door.

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<v Speaker 2>And I go, you did tell me that? She goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it just kept circling the door, circling the door, circling

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<v Speaker 2>the door.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would it be doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my mom gracing it or blessing it or saying

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<v Speaker 3>like she's here, she's here. Who knows what it means.

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<v Speaker 3>But and then when we were there, they're like, there's

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<v Speaker 3>like three birds nests at every entrance and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like three.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, yes, at every doorway in the back, in

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<v Speaker 3>the front, and then the doorway to the gym. He goes,

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<v Speaker 3>there's three. And I was like, oh my god, why,

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<v Speaker 3>And I couldn't. I was just like, holy shit. It

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<v Speaker 3>was just crazy. And so I was like, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>believe in that that is my mother. She would be

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<v Speaker 3>a bird coming back around me. I do believe she

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<v Speaker 3>was also my dog Junk, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I think it's some more fun way to live.

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<v Speaker 3>And whatever you believe is true is true. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>like when you tell yourself negative things, they become true,

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<v Speaker 3>and when you tell yourself positive things, they also become true.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's so true. I love what you say

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<v Speaker 1>about Like, if you don't know what it means, that's

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<v Speaker 1>still okay, because maybe you will in the future and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you won't. I tend to see the numbers one, two,

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<v Speaker 1>three four constantly, which seems like, well, those are the

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<v Speaker 1>first four numbers, but also like on a clock, like

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<v Speaker 1>half the time I look at a clock, it's one, two,

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<v Speaker 1>three four, and I don't exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what it means.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried looking it up in numerology and stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to mean that when you see it, you're

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<v Speaker 1>on the right track and you're in your growth and.

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<v Speaker 2>You're learning, which I like.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, I feel like there's some deeper meaning

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like one day it's going to hit

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<v Speaker 1>me like a ton of bricks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, numbers are important too, Like I told my aunt

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<v Speaker 3>when my cousin died. She was obviously, you know, never

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the same. And I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>she doesn't believe in any of this. I go, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to think of something, Think of something so obscure

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<v Speaker 3>that only he would know about.

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<v Speaker 2>Just make it up in your mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Communicate to him in your mind that you need to

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<v Speaker 3>see these numbers or these letters or this symbol. She

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<v Speaker 3>chose like xyz da da da da. She chose some

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<v Speaker 3>random thing of numbers. So she spent the whole I go, great, now,

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<v Speaker 3>look everywhere, just look at in all the strangest places.

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<v Speaker 3>So she's looking at license plates, she's driving around, looking

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<v Speaker 3>and seeing if she could find this weird combination of lettering.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she picked up her phone and the numbers

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<v Speaker 3>that those letters made out on the phone was on

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<v Speaker 3>her phone without making a call, because it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 3>full phone number. It was just like five letters, and

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<v Speaker 3>and it just it was like, whatever that is on

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<v Speaker 3>your phone. And she said she looked at her phone

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the day and she called me.

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<v Speaker 3>She was shaking. She's like, oh my god, that's him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's okay, it's so wid.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that you know, we're When we lose someone,

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<v Speaker 3>we're so desperate to know that they're okay, and we

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<v Speaker 3>suffer so much. It's like they don't want us to suffer.

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<v Speaker 3>And I understand you have to grieve because you've lost someone,

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<v Speaker 3>but there is an attachment that real monks and Buddhists.

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<v Speaker 2>Know not to attach to, not to attach to the

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<v Speaker 2>physical form.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course you're attached emotionally, but it's not gone. When

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<v Speaker 3>that person dies, they're just not here. And while that's

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<v Speaker 3>a huge loss, don't forget that there's the energy and

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<v Speaker 3>the connection and the love is still there and palpable, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, even from a straight up physics perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>energy doesn't disappear, right. It transforms into something else, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's water becoming a gas, et cetera, et cetera. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think the same can be true of the literal

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<v Speaker 1>electric energy that's in our bodies when we're alive. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't just disappear and dissipate. It has to transform into

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<v Speaker 1>something else.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you are aligned with this universal intelligence that

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<v Speaker 3>I speak of, like when you believe that everything is

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<v Speaker 3>leading you to the in the right direction, and to

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<v Speaker 3>trust your instinct and gut and you don't resist uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 3>circumstances or things that don't work out, You don't let

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<v Speaker 3>them drag you down. So far everything starts to get easier.

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<v Speaker 3>And that tip has happened in my life in such

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<v Speaker 3>a major way that I would be remiss to pretend

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<v Speaker 3>that it wasn't part of a universal alignment. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in my flow state, I understand where things are going,

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<v Speaker 3>and even if things don't work out, I feel so

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<v Speaker 3>optimistic about all the work I've done and the direction I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Headed that I can handle it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and now I trust myself, and before I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>trust myself, or there were times where I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust myself is a better way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a hard thing to learn when something's not going right, Like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a learning experience. What am I actually supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to take from this? Even though it's painful or awkward

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<v Speaker 1>or annoying, But you can get there, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>accepting that all of these things are learning experiences.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And the more experience you have, the more you

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<v Speaker 3>realize A breakup is not the end of the world,

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<v Speaker 3>world a job. Losing a job is not the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the world. A family member. Dying is terrible experience,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's part of life and it's not the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the world. Your world continues to exist. So how

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<v Speaker 3>do you want to move forward in that? As a

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<v Speaker 3>victim or as someone who's empowered and understands that this

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<v Speaker 3>universal intelligence is going to take and give and upset

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<v Speaker 3>and like enlighten be open to all of the experiences.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I used to be such a baby

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<v Speaker 3>and a brat. If things didn't go my way, I

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<v Speaker 3>would be I would stop my feet and cry to

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<v Speaker 3>get my way. And I don't have to do that anymore. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so amen to that, yes for sure, which brings.

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<v Speaker 2>Us to our very special guest. Oh, you guys are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna like this.

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<v Speaker 3>So our next guest is doing a live tour currently

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<v Speaker 3>just nominated for an Emmy for his show on Netflix,

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<v Speaker 3>which is called Life After Death, and he is the

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<v Speaker 3>star of Hollywood Medium. He is a recent Emmy nominee

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<v Speaker 3>for his Netflix series Life after Death with how Tyler

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<v Speaker 3>Henry Please welcome Tyler Henry.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, how cute are you? I was so

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<v Speaker 2>excited to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so excited to talk to you. I barely slept

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<v Speaker 4>a wink last night, So I am looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you're so cute.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think you're so Your whole vibe and energy

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<v Speaker 3>is just so sweet and welcoming and comforting to so

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<v Speaker 3>many people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so touching.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, thank you so much. It means the world. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel the same way about you. You've entertained me for

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<v Speaker 4>years and have brought such so much joy to so

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<v Speaker 4>many people. So I'm excited to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm less comforting but more probably joy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can bring joy, and I don't think comfort

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<v Speaker 3>is what I'm bringing.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Not everybody's here for everything, you know, Catherine, this is

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<v Speaker 3>my co host.

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<v Speaker 4>H Well, Catherine, it's lovely to meet you.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, okay, So I want you to tell me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I have this story right. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk about your kind of og story, your

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<v Speaker 3>mom and I think I read that your mom was

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<v Speaker 3>kidnapped as a young girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that accurate in essence?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm basically my mom as a baby was taken

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<v Speaker 4>by a woman who we later found out took her,

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<v Speaker 4>and we for the first twenty something years of my life,

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<v Speaker 4>thought that this woman was my grandmother, and indeed we

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<v Speaker 4>came to this family discovery that she was abducted, and

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<v Speaker 4>it led to a whole kind of reunion with my

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<v Speaker 4>biological family, which was captured on a Netflix show called

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<v Speaker 4>Life After Death.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa holy shit, I mean, that is a lifetime movie

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<v Speaker 3>come to roost.

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<v Speaker 4>It really was. Oh my, the woman who did this,

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<v Speaker 4>who I thought was my grandmother for the first twenty

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<v Speaker 4>something years of my life, ended up actually serving over

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<v Speaker 4>thirty years in prison for the murder of two people,

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<v Speaker 4>and I ended up actually involving her own family in

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<v Speaker 4>having to bury the bodies and manipulated the entire situation,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, it was a source of a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of shame for my mom. And then to find out

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<v Speaker 4>that that wasn't even actually her mother. It was definitely

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<v Speaker 4>heartbreaking and also kind of relieving to know we weren't

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<v Speaker 4>related to that person.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I bet yeh.

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<v Speaker 3>God, that must be such a hurdle to get over emotionally,

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<v Speaker 3>to grow up thinking somebody's one thing and then find

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<v Speaker 3>out they're not multiple things.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely. I mean, there's something to be said about, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>people living often with the sins of their father, and

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<v Speaker 4>you hear all these tropes about how the apple doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>fall far from the tree. And you know, my mom

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<v Speaker 4>grew up hearing those things and it was very taunting

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<v Speaker 4>for her. And so to realize, hey, you know, there

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't even a biological link, it was kind of healing.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you been able to help your mom on that front?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, definitely. You know, in some ways, my own intuitive

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<v Speaker 4>inclinations are kind of limited when it comes to reading

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<v Speaker 4>my own family, and a lot of that has to

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<v Speaker 4>do too and just implicit biases. You know, I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of know too much. I have my own hopes and

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<v Speaker 4>fears about the people that I love and care about,

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<v Speaker 4>and so it was very difficult in my pursuit for

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<v Speaker 4>answers to be able to really get any through my

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<v Speaker 4>normal kind of go to methods. But we were able

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<v Speaker 4>to work with a leading genealogist. I introduced my mom

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<v Speaker 4>to another medium and we received a very compelling reading,

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<v Speaker 4>and through all that information was able to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>get an understanding of what happened, what led to this

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<v Speaker 4>horrible event that affected so many.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, yeah, I wonder if that you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about intergenerational trauma, right like, I wonder how

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<v Speaker 3>that affects you unconsciously.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely Oh, I've so often wonder too, you know, just

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<v Speaker 4>how trauma and its effect over generations can sometimes even

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<v Speaker 4>kind of be inherited in certain proclivities or susceptibilities to

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<v Speaker 4>maybe even anxiety, you know, on some levels. So I

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<v Speaker 4>do know that shame is something very powerful and often

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<v Speaker 4>does have a ripple effect. And so to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to tell that story in a way that was shared

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<v Speaker 4>with millions of people, I think was liberating and kind

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<v Speaker 4>of reclaiming what happened and owning that narrative and being

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<v Speaker 4>the one to tell that story versus being ashamed of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And that show on Netflix, Life After Death was just

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<v Speaker 3>nominated for an Emmy, so I should mention that too.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you haven't seen it, definitely go and see it,

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<v Speaker 3>because that is one crazy story. Okay, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 3>you and how you came into touch with your abilities.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely well, for me, it really started when I was

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<v Speaker 4>ten years old. I didn't recognize this as an ability initially.

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<v Speaker 4>I woke up one night in April of two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and six and just had this knowingness, this overwhelming feeling

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<v Speaker 4>that my grandmother was going to pass. And from there,

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<v Speaker 4>very quickly I went into the room to try to

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<v Speaker 4>share this with my mom, and as I was explaining

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<v Speaker 4>it to her, we literally, in that moment received the

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<v Speaker 4>phone call from my dad that my grandmother had just died.

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<v Speaker 4>So that acted as a catalyst. But when you're that young,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't really recognize that as an ability. It was

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<v Speaker 4>just a moment of connection, a moment of knowing this

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<v Speaker 4>that led to a series of other moments of knowing

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<v Speaker 4>this as time went on.

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<v Speaker 2>A h and was this the grandmother that was went

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<v Speaker 2>to jail?

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<v Speaker 4>Or is this your number one? So thankfully I had

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<v Speaker 4>a very, very wonderful paternal grandmother who was my world

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<v Speaker 4>and she made up for all the nastiness on the

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<v Speaker 4>other side of the family. But no, this was the

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<v Speaker 4>my grandmother who's my whole life, and she was really

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<v Speaker 4>kind of that introduction into what I would later do

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<v Speaker 4>as a job.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>And so how does one when you have abilities like

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<v Speaker 3>this and you and you categorize yourself as a medium.

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<v Speaker 3>So how does one separate the knowing and the intuitiveness

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<v Speaker 3>and the seeing that you have.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you separate that.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're living your real life and you're not working

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<v Speaker 3>or you're not trying. Is that like a switch that

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<v Speaker 3>you're able to flip easily.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I kind of like, in the medium side

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<v Speaker 4>of things to a little bit of like a volume

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<v Speaker 4>dial in the sense that there's always background noise when

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<v Speaker 4>I go about my life. But I've had certain kind

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<v Speaker 4>of processes or rituals or routines that I've created to

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<v Speaker 4>allow myself to kind of turn on and turn that

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<v Speaker 4>volume dial up, and then when I need to kind

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<v Speaker 4>of go about my life and go grocery shopping be

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<v Speaker 4>able to kind of turn it down. And so that's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of the best way to describe it. But it

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<v Speaker 4>certainly is a process of kind of navigating a constant

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<v Speaker 4>sense of I'm trying to understand what's mine and what's

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<v Speaker 4>other people's and having that.

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<v Speaker 3>Discernment, And how do you feel there must be a

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<v Speaker 3>sense of responsibility that you must feel as just a human,

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<v Speaker 3>decent person, right, Because if I mean I feel a

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<v Speaker 3>sense of responsibility a human being and I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>that ability, even though I kind of wish I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, who doesn't, really, right, I mean, you're the

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<v Speaker 3>envy of it. I mean, who doesn't want to be

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<v Speaker 3>around somebody who can see you know, the people that

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<v Speaker 3>have left your life or has some sort of psychic ability,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think we're all innately born with. Right, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a matter of whether or not you're how in touch

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<v Speaker 3>you are with the idea of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, and it's really about trust. And you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>all get a first impression. We all get a feeling

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<v Speaker 4>when we shake someone's hand, we all get a vibe

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<v Speaker 4>when we enter into a room, and so many of

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<v Speaker 4>us just kind of discount that as it was just

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<v Speaker 4>a feeling, but so often it's kind of a tool

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<v Speaker 4>we're relying on and don't even realize.

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<v Speaker 3>So, what was the biggest discovery you made after the

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<v Speaker 3>first thing with your grandmother? I mean, obviously that's a

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<v Speaker 3>huge discovery, But what was the next thing that really

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<v Speaker 3>cemented the idea that this was going to be play

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<v Speaker 3>a major role in your future and your professional life.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, you know, life very quickly changed for me.

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<v Speaker 4>At the age of sixteen, I had an interaction with

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<v Speaker 4>my math teacher, of all things, where I shared with

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<v Speaker 4>her message that I was getting while I was sitting

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<v Speaker 4>in class and again came through as a knowingness, almost

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<v Speaker 4>akin to like a memory that hadn't happened yet. And

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<v Speaker 4>when I shared this message with her. It involved her

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<v Speaker 4>former relationship and her divorce and what led to that,

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<v Speaker 4>and her former mother in law came through to let

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<v Speaker 4>her know that she loved her like a mother loved daughter,

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<v Speaker 4>regardless of the fact that her relationship with her son

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<v Speaker 4>had dissolved. And it was just really healing and showed that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there was power in these random moments when

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<v Speaker 4>they could be applied in the right way, in the

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<v Speaker 4>right circumstances and could actually help make a transformative effect

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<v Speaker 4>on someone's life. And so that math teacher was interviewed

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<v Speaker 4>actually on the Netflix show. She was instrumental in helping

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<v Speaker 4>me graduate high school at the age of sixteen, where

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<v Speaker 4>I then went on to try to become a hospice

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<v Speaker 4>nurse because I figured, you know what two birds one stone.

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<v Speaker 2>And what happened when you tried to become a hostmas nurse.

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<v Speaker 4>Well this is the No one's gonna believe this, But

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<v Speaker 4>I ended up reading the dean of my college and

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<v Speaker 4>he literally ran into me one day and was like, Tyler,

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<v Speaker 4>if you did for me what you did for me,

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<v Speaker 4>you probably should just go in that direction more than

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<v Speaker 4>you know doing the hospice interessing thing. And so in essence,

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of always joke the dean of the college

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<v Speaker 4>gave me permission to quit school, and that's literally what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>And then, you know, life obviously went a very different

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<v Speaker 4>direction as I got my show when I was nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, congrat kudos to you on that way to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Netflix doesn't miss a beat.

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<v Speaker 4>I just kind of felt guided into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's nice, congrats on that. Are we going to

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<v Speaker 2>do a little reading as Tyler?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to open that doing a little reading

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<v Speaker 1>for Chelsea?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so absolutely, I would love to.

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<v Speaker 1>Well let's take a quick break and we'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>with Tyler.

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<v Speaker 2>And Chelsea and we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back.

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<v Speaker 4>So as far as this reading goes, I have my

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<v Speaker 4>pen and paper here, so I'm happy to scribble and

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<v Speaker 4>it might take about thirty seconds for stuff to start

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<v Speaker 4>coming through. Information can come through about both of you,

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<v Speaker 4>So just kind of good to keep this in mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Something might make sense for one the other it might

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<v Speaker 4>not so much, and so we'll kind of go back

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<v Speaker 4>and forth if that happens. But I'm going to scribble

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<v Speaker 4>and then we'll kind of see which direction we go. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>very often what will happen is information will come through

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<v Speaker 4>around conversations. We've just had family dynamics, things we were

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<v Speaker 4>just doing. If anything too sensitive comes through, I'll share

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<v Speaker 4>with you after the fact off recording. But yeah, generally

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<v Speaker 4>it just kind of helps me get a map of

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<v Speaker 4>where I'm going.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if my father's planning on coming back and reincarnating

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<v Speaker 3>himself during my life, that would be problematic for me.

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<v Speaker 4>That you know what I'm here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's something something's funny that I always say

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<v Speaker 3>when I meditate or when I'm feeling spiritual or connected

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<v Speaker 3>really like to the universe, and I do my mantras

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever I'm into at the time, I always feel

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<v Speaker 3>my mom and my brother, but I never ever feel

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<v Speaker 3>my father.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I feel like he's getting He's in

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<v Speaker 2>the spin.

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<v Speaker 3>Cycle, like in perfectory, making up for all all of

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<v Speaker 3>his bad behavior.

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<v Speaker 4>He's just in limbo. But you know it's working, working

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<v Speaker 4>our way out the spin cycle exactly. We're good. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see if anything comes through, because one thing I

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<v Speaker 4>actually want to start with so immediately I have to

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<v Speaker 4>highlight for some reason, when we talk about females within family,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm being a big fan of you of course know

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<v Speaker 4>your mom has passed, but I have to highlight for

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<v Speaker 4>some reason acknowledgment also around an aunt. So if you

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<v Speaker 4>have any aunts that have passed away, it could be

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<v Speaker 4>a way of just kind of trying to acknowledge that

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<v Speaker 4>I like to relay exactly as a symbology comes through

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<v Speaker 4>kind of how I'm seeing it, And that's one of

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<v Speaker 4>the individuals I feel like I have to highlight in

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<v Speaker 4>some kind of capacity, check and see within Chelsea, within

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<v Speaker 4>your family, if there's anyone who's passed away in their

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<v Speaker 4>sixties that would be female, So like, I don't feel

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<v Speaker 4>like I get to hit my seventies. I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>I passed away kind of closer to my sixties, and

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<v Speaker 4>it wouldn't be your mother, so it would be somebody else.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's just kind of good to keep in mind

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<v Speaker 4>without giving any information away off the top of your head.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know of any females who would have passed

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<v Speaker 4>away in their sixties that.

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<v Speaker 3>Would have Yeah, my mom's sister, Elka, would have passed

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<v Speaker 3>away in her sixties, so yeah, I have one aunt, Elka.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so we'd kind of be going in that direction.

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<v Speaker 4>The way this keeps coming in is I keep having

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about that aunt acknowledgment in the way, this

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<v Speaker 4>comes through a couple of cancer susceptibilities that would exist

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<v Speaker 4>within family that just need to be kept in mind generationally.

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<v Speaker 4>So I, as far I know, I believe your mom

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<v Speaker 4>did deal with some kind of cancer. Is that correct? Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm aware of that, But I also feel like somebody

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<v Speaker 4>else may have also dealt with that susceptibility. That also

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<v Speaker 4>comes through as being significant and female and dealing with

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<v Speaker 4>this at kind of an earlier age. So on mom's

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<v Speaker 4>side of family, do you know of any other females

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<v Speaker 4>who dealt with cancer?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't, no worries.

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<v Speaker 4>Any like cancer scares, cancer bouts. When we talk about

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<v Speaker 4>her sister, do you know if she had any areas

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<v Speaker 4>of concern in that area?

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<v Speaker 3>I forget how she died, but it wasn't cancer. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>pretty sure she had. I think she had heart issues, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 4>She seems like a very strong person's kind of the

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<v Speaker 4>way we describe it in sense of like strong will.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going anywhere. I don't know why, but I

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<v Speaker 4>have to highlight more than one health related thing, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm putting it definitely more around her. So just something

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<v Speaker 4>to look into and we'll kind of look and see

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<v Speaker 4>if we can confirm with that. I have to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about some reference in the way this comes across to

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<v Speaker 4>somebody receiving a gift, and it would be an art piece,

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<v Speaker 4>but it would be of a dog, and this would

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<v Speaker 4>be of a dog that passed So if somebody received

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<v Speaker 4>some form of either an illustration of a dog that died,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I have to highlight this event happening

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<v Speaker 4>in some way. If it hasn't happened yet, it may

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<v Speaker 4>like we just end up getting surprised by this gift,

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<v Speaker 4>but it would be something thoughtful that somebody would do,

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<v Speaker 4>as like a rendition to honor an animal that has

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<v Speaker 4>passed away.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've had it's plenty of those with my dog Chunk,

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:22.040
<v Speaker 3>because Chunk was such a public stud that people sent

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<v Speaker 3>me so many beautiful things after he died, and a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of them were paintings, and like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It's sweet and it's really symbolic in the sense of

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<v Speaker 4>when we see these things, it's just those reminders that

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<v Speaker 4>we hold on too, that feeling it kind of brings

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<v Speaker 4>back and the importance of holding onto that. I also

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<v Speaker 4>have to talk about Atlantic City and This is just

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<v Speaker 4>good to keep in mind. I'm seeing Atlantic City, and

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<v Speaker 4>anytime I see Atlantic City, I've been there before. It's

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<v Speaker 4>usually a place I attribute to casinos in some capacity.

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<v Speaker 4>But if there's any sentimental memories, So do you know

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<v Speaker 4>any significant memories in that kind of area.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's where I met Bill Cosby, so that was significant, significantly.

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was awake because.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yes, well you remember it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm aware that it happened. So there's that.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I perform an Atlantic City on every tour,

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<v Speaker 3>of which I'm on one right now. So my family

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:13.919
<v Speaker 3>usually comes down there, and I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>pictures of the beach in Atlantic City with my nieces.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have that.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing I want to look into is there's some

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<v Speaker 4>acknowledgement it kept hearing a little birdie you told me,

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<v Speaker 4>So anytime that comes through for some reason with your mom,

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<v Speaker 4>there's some connection as this comes through with like a

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<v Speaker 4>little bird visiting. So if you find that, like you

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<v Speaker 4>when this hang when we hang up, if you like

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<v Speaker 4>go to your window and there's a little bird sitting there,

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<v Speaker 4>it's those kinds of things that often happen that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of validate what we hear in readings, but I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like there's some visitation involving a little bird.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so funny, that's so true because I've heard this before,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've read about people and like the most common

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<v Speaker 3>ways that they show you signs from the other side,

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 3>and birds is obviously very common. But someone once told

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<v Speaker 3>me check for birds nests outside of any place that

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<v Speaker 3>you live, like they're going to be in weird places.

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<v Speaker 3>And like three months.

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<v Speaker 2>Ago, I have a house in Whistler.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy who takes care of my house for me

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<v Speaker 3>set me a picture of a bird's nest right outside

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<v Speaker 3>the window and he goes, Oh, my god, this bird's

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 3>nest was here all winter.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see it? And I thought, oh, that's my mother.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I love that. So that's just kind of for

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<v Speaker 4>me when things like that get brought up in a reading.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a way to kind of refer back to an

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<v Speaker 4>event you would be familiar with, something that you can

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<v Speaker 4>recollect and kind of almost validate as a way of

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<v Speaker 4>saying that is indeed either me or I know that

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<v Speaker 4>you thought that was me at the very least, and

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<v Speaker 4>that for me is often very comforting. I have to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about that I woke up this morning hearing the

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<v Speaker 4>song idole wise, idle wise, idle wise. It's a song

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<v Speaker 4>from I think the sound of music. There's some darn

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<v Speaker 4>sentimentality with that song, and it will go back, and

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.400
<v Speaker 4>it could go back generations even but idleways.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my mom was German, so she was from that

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<v Speaker 2>neck of the woods.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it if there's some sentimentality, if that song

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<v Speaker 4>was played as a child for somebody on a music box,

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<v Speaker 4>just remember that. I'm saying that check into it, because

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<v Speaker 4>I think we'll end up knowing where that fits. It

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<v Speaker 4>feels like we're kind of going back in time on

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<v Speaker 4>some kind of larger capacity. So I have to ask

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 4>as it relates to your kind of overall physical body,

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<v Speaker 4>one thing to consider is as we go to lower

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<v Speaker 4>I keep in mind that you have a susceptibility when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to legs of one leg being weaker than

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<v Speaker 4>the other, and just wanting to be mindful of this

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<v Speaker 4>because for some reason, when we're talking about balance, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>almost more inclined to worry about one like almost slipping up,

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<v Speaker 4>so that generally for me can sometimes indicate likenie susceptibilities.

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<v Speaker 4>Ankle susceptibilities anywhere we would have like a joint on

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<v Speaker 4>one side more than the other. Just be mindful of

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<v Speaker 4>that if you notice any issues. Because I don't think

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 4>things are set in stone, we can kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>knowledge his power on some greater sense. One thing I

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<v Speaker 4>want to talk about when we go to Dad's side

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 4>is when we do talk about that department. One thing

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<v Speaker 4>that I want to acknowledge. When I focus on that symbology,

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 4>I do not get a lot, but I will tell

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<v Speaker 4>you what I get. There's an acknowledgment of our dad,

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<v Speaker 4>either my symbology around what do we do with him?

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<v Speaker 4>Where do we put him, where does he go? If

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<v Speaker 4>there was a decision around someone either going into a

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 4>nursing home or having a rehabilitative kind of situation where

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:08.120
<v Speaker 4>they need to be taken care of through the help

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 4>of professionals, there's some conversation around that in some large capacity.

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 4>But what's interesting is there's this feeling of if somebody

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 4>was not or if people were not able to be

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 4>there when he died, there's this feeling of that's okay,

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 4>I went the way that I was supposed to go.

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 4>But sometimes people will come through and say, like, no,

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 4>I needed everybody around me. I'm not getting that feeling

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 4>with him. There's this feeling of I went and almost

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 4>timed my passing. And I don't know why, but if

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 4>somebody like almost intentionally went when they went to avoid people.

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 4>But I don't mean to say it in such a

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:44.919
<v Speaker 4>kind of way, but it just kind of feels almost

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 4>like not having everybody involved when it comes to sending

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 4>me off, Well.

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 2>That's how I want to go. So, I mean, I

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 2>totally related my father feeling that way.

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<v Speaker 4>If that's how he felt, it's definitely an interesting sense

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.880
<v Speaker 4>of timing my passing. When it comes to dad situation,

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<v Speaker 4>were there people around at the very end or did

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 4>he pass kind of more solo?

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't with any of us. Yeah, he was solow

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 3>in one of those assisted living places.

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 4>So the way that that comes in is basically, you

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:13.920
<v Speaker 4>know some people live and feel like I wish I

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 4>would have been there. I wish I could have been

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 4>there for him. There's this feeling of like didn't need

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 4>people to be there, timed by passing. Yeah, the interesting

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.159
<v Speaker 4>thing is I feel like he kind of held on

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<v Speaker 4>a little longer than I would have even expected, which

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 4>is kind of strange. He gives me an earlier acknoledgement

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 4>of an earlier point where I almost feel like we

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 4>were like ready to say goodbye, and then he pulls

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 4>through in some capacity, in some larger, larger kind of way,

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 4>and then ends up passing a little later on, and

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 4>they're like, what, like, we thought I was going to

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<v Speaker 4>be the earlier thing. Did you have any earlier situations?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we were hoping he would die a lot sooner

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 3>than he did, because at a certain point it was

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 3>just not a quality life. And he was such a

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 3>stubborn asshole that he wouldn't die, you know what I mean.

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 3>He was just like holding on tightly to his anger.

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 3>I remember when my sister called to tell me that

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 3>my dad died. My sister Shauna, and I was in

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 3>the car with my driver, Billy, and she was crying

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 3>and she goes, dad died this morning.

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I said, why are you crying? And

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 2>she's like, I don't know. We've been waiting for this

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 2>for years.

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<v Speaker 3>Like not because we hate our dad. I mean, he

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 3>was disappointing on many levels, but we all really loved him.

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 3>It was just that it was no way to live anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think he definitely extended his life about six

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 3>or seven years longer than necessary.

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 4>With that, though, equally comes in awareness of certain cognitive biases,

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 4>certain cycles that you as an individual have broken on

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 4>a larger scale. And there's just an interesting acknowledgement when

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 4>it comes to Dad about Dad not being able to

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 4>see things in life, being shortsighted in a larger capacity,

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 4>and from where he's at now, I truly believe there's

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 4>a greater clarity in understanding that ripple effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that of how both his actions and inactions

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 4>affected the people around him. And I would really just say,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get a maliciousness around him. I just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of get a sense of I feel like he might

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<v Speaker 4>have sometimes offended people without intending to offend them. And

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<v Speaker 4>it's almost like when someone says the worst possible thing

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<v Speaker 4>at the worst possible time, but they thought they were

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<v Speaker 4>being comforting. There's something there that just kind of comes

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<v Speaker 4>through that if anybody feels he kind of had that quality,

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<v Speaker 4>there's an acknowledgement of warning to wife that clean of

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<v Speaker 4>I see maybe perhaps the insensitivity or my timing not

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<v Speaker 4>always being the best, but people maybe not understanding that

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<v Speaker 4>from his perspective, so I don't really feel bad about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Well I definitely have a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>what you're describing as well. I was born with the

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<v Speaker 3>ability to say the wrong thing at the wrong time

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<v Speaker 3>or the right thing at the wrong time.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go, you know it definitely, uh, it happens.

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 4>But there's definitely what I would say is fill a

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<v Speaker 4>sense of in hindsight and understanding.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was born in August my brother Roy?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, now, for some reason, and this is just one

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 4>thing to consider. There's an acknowledgement around like one brother

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.719
<v Speaker 4>and then an brother and having to kind of separate

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 4>the two for some reason. Oftentimes objects that come through

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 4>have a lot more meaning than just their initial kind

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 4>of application. Check and see if anybody has any horse paintings.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of a weird thing to say. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>where it's coming from, but like if somebody in the

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<v Speaker 4>family made a painting of a horse or has a

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<v Speaker 4>painting of a horse.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why that I've been called a horse

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>before a horse face? Is that what we're talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think you're okay in that regard, but it's

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 4>kind of a weird generational thing. I feel like I'm

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 4>going back, and I'm not even entirely sure where to

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 4>place it. It could be switching gears to Catherine as

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<v Speaker 4>far as this goes.

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>So, I definitely have some paintings of horses, one specifically

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>that's from my grandfather's house.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I feel wow. I want to kind of go

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<v Speaker 4>to you because I do sometimes get polls and I

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 4>have to kind of go with those poles because they're inclinations,

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 4>and we all have inclinations. But yeah, I think there's

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 4>something to inform in that, So give me the may

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<v Speaker 4>scribble really quick, Catherine. One of the areas that does

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<v Speaker 4>pop up is just kind of a hypervigilance around the

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 4>feminine system. That's usually ovarian, uterine, cervical. But I'm kind

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 4>of going to lower again, this may not be something

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 4>we include now.

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm very open. I've got endometriosis and had sort of

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>for that a couple of years ago, so about yeah.

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 4>Gotcha, gotcha. I hope you're on the mend. I just

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 4>want to keep it in mind. There's some acknowledgement around

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 4>what I would view as like susceptibility information bybroid's ovari

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 4>insistently just kind of being mindful of that thing. I'm

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 4>just kind of just being on top of that, Catherine,

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 4>in your family, I'm just kind of curious check and

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<v Speaker 4>see if there were two passings within a very relatively

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 4>short period of time. There's an acknowledgement of three years

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 4>and two people within family passing in three years, so

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 4>that comes in pretty strongly. Do you know off the

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 4>top of your head, like two passings in three years?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I would definitely say my two grandparents

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>on my father's side passed within two years of each other.

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<v Speaker 4>Gotcha. And when we talked about the lung cancer susceptibility

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 4>things separately from I would just look into it and

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<v Speaker 4>see if perhaps when we talk about dad side of family, Catherine,

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<v Speaker 4>for you, do you know of any situations involving three

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 4>siblings on Dad's side?

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Do we know what kind of situation?

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<v Speaker 4>It's basically so I have to highlight an acknowledgment of

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 4>three and it's generationally going back above you, which usually

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 4>would put that on Dad's level.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my dad has three half siblings that he grew

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<v Speaker 1>up with, and there's a lot of half siblings that

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 1>he did not grow up with, so that could be

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<v Speaker 1>what that is.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I having to highlight. The three generally be three

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 4>that we'd be kind of more familiar with in some capacity.

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 4>That's more for some reason, I'm putting some kind of

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 4>long lung diagnosis lung prognostiy.

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, okay, I absolutely know what that is. Yeah,

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>my aunt Debbie died of emphasema or like complications from emphysema,

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>which is okay, one of those three.

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I definitely want to go there. I just

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 4>generally interpret anything that would be like a terminal lung thing.

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 4>That's kind of the symbology I'll get, and that's what

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 4>I was getting. So I'm glad we figured out where

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<v Speaker 4>it is all good as far as as living people goes,

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 4>which is kind of good to be on top of that.

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 3>And when you bring up like hew issues, is it

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<v Speaker 3>as to heat a warning or is it to like,

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, when someone has already crossed over, say, and

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 3>you're you're acknowledging how they went, is that a confirmation

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 3>in a sense that you're speaking to them.

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Is that why they're like saying it like to confirm

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<v Speaker 2>their presence?

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<v Speaker 4>So how someone passes is a big part of their

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<v Speaker 4>life story, and so very often people's lives and what

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 4>they valued and who they were will come through. But

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 4>very often a way to kind of validate will be,

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of leading with what led to where

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm at now, and that's usually well always the cause

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 4>of death.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, well that was very juicy and cute. I

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 3>like that little speed round. Okay, so let's give some

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 3>advice out.

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:40.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take a little break and be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back with Tyler, Henry and Chelsea. Our first email

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<v Speaker 1>comes from Denise. Dear Chelsea. I recently lost my mother

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<v Speaker 1>unexpectedly to a stroke, and I'm pretty devastated. This was

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.359
<v Speaker 1>the heart est thing I've ever gone through. My mother

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>was not only an amazing woman but also my best friend.

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I used to talk to her two to three times

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 1>daily and she was my bouncing board for everything. The

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.760
<v Speaker 1>constant pain I'm feeling is unbearable, and I'm learning about grieving.

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 1>They say that even though people die, you can speak

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:18.840
<v Speaker 1>with them and that they're still here with you. I

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>find myself having conversations with my mom, but I don't

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 1>know if it's me talking to myself or is it her.

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 1>How do you know? And when is too soon to

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<v Speaker 1>see a medium all the best, Denise.

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<v Speaker 4>What a beautiful question, Denise. You know, I would just

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 4>say when it comes to seeing a medium, it's important

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 4>to do that when we've gotten to a place in

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.280
<v Speaker 4>our grief where I think we've been able to fundamentally

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 4>process that physical loss. Medium reading is not a cure

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 4>for grief, and it's important that we go through the

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 4>process of being able to find acceptance. However that looks

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 4>to us in being hopefully able to see grief counselors

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 4>or find a sense of community or finds a sense

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 4>of support before we go and receive a reading. So

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 4>that would be my kind of general advice when it

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 4>comes to the protocol. Largely though, I think when it

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 4>comes to you know, wondering if they're there, if they notice,

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 4>are they connected? Those are all very normal questions to have,

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 4>and for me, I find in my own work one

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 4>of the number one ways that they often seem to

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 4>answer is through something called meaningful coincidence called synchronicity. And

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 4>synchronicities happen, and you know, very often they are moments

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 4>where events line up and we just kind of feel

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 4>in an uncanny sense of wonder wondering, you know, was

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.439
<v Speaker 4>that you. And I think that even those moments where

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 4>we stop and are kind of struck by this sense

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 4>of questioning, those very often are signs and ways to

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 4>let them know and affirm that they're still with us.

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 4>So not only our dreams a great way for people

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 4>to kind of come in. Timing is also something important

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 4>to look at as a way that in a vehicle

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 4>of which they communicate.

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 3>And I also want to add in, like you just

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 3>have to believe, like you, if you believe it, then

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 3>it's true to you, you know, and if you like

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 3>when I'm talking to my mom, I never doubt it

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 3>for a second because I want to believe it. You know,

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:06.800
<v Speaker 3>I would recommend to try not to resist the judgment

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 3>of your communication with your mom. People, don't you know,

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 3>they're not gone. The love that existed, it will always remain,

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:15.359
<v Speaker 3>and that is a piece of her that you will

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:18.879
<v Speaker 3>always have, So it's never ever gonna leave, like your

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 3>aura and your energy field, like that's your mom. So

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 3>you have to trust in that, I think energetically to know,

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 3>like you think your mom is just going to die

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 3>and just forget about you and disappear, and did you

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 3>no fucking way is your mom gonna do that?

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And also like, what's the harm in believing that?

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Like exactly, you're a total cynic, Like why not be

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 1>like I'm just having a conversation with my mom.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and truly, there's something to be said about subjective

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:47.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, truths and objective truths and creativity, love, spirituality.

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.800
<v Speaker 4>They exist very much on the meaning oriented arenas, and

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 4>that's a big part of it. So you know, objective

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 4>truths are the pursuit of science, that's math, you know,

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 4>that's technology. Subjectivity exists and kind of a different realm,

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 4>one that is still valuable and still has meaning, but

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 4>doesn't necessarily have to be understood by everybody around you.

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Right right, You know, if you believe in your mother,

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 3>that's all that matters. If you believe that your mother,

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.359
<v Speaker 3>that you're talking to her and it's so comforting, why

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 3>would you deny yourself that comfort?

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Exactly?

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>And also, like it seems true to your relationship with

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>your mom. You checked in two or three times a day.

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 1>You are constantly in conversation, So why wouldn't you still

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 1>be in conversation with her? Why wouldn't she still be

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 1>having a conversation with you? I think that's wonderful.

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's jump to a caller. I have Amy on

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 1>the line here, Dear Chelsea, my mom very recently passed away.

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering if, once someone crossed over, if they

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>have to prioritize how often they visit loved ones. My

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 1>mom would want to visit her three granddaughters first, and

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>then my sister and my dad. I don't know that

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 1>she would feel the need to visit me as much,

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.359
<v Speaker 1>since I'm living an average life with not a lot

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>for her to worry about. See if she was a

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>big worrier, But I thought I would get the sense

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 1>that she was around me more. I keep thinking maybe

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>she's focusing on those that need her presence more. Chelsea.

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Having lost significant family in your life, what has been

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>your experience and have you received any signs that they're

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 1>with you? And how often? Hi?

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Amy?

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Hi? Amy?

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 4>Hell?

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 5>How Hi?

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 4>Hi?

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 2>This is Tyler Henry. He's our special guest today.

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 4>Hello, Hi, oh, thank you for joining us.

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Wow, So you feel like your mom.

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Do you feel like your siblings or your dad or

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 3>any of the people you mentioned feel her presence at all?

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think that they do.

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if I was expecting some grand sign.

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 5>I just kind of wanted to know that she was okay,

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 5>and she died of cancer and it was a difficult passing,

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 5>and it just kind of expected maybe rainbows or forerd

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 5>to land on my shoulder.

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 4>Or something, and absolutely so. Well, first, what I want

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 4>to say, Amy, is I would love if you contacted

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 4>my website. We'll give you a full free membership to

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 4>the Collective where you can take part in group readings

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 4>and see the experience and potentially receive one yourself. So

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 4>we'd love to have you over there. But to your question,

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, when it comes to spirituality on a larger scale,

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 4>the analogy I like to use when it comes to

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 4>where they're at is this. I like to say, if

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 4>you imagine that you are in New York City and

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:20.399
<v Speaker 4>you know there's a car accident that happens two streets over,

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 4>if you are in the middle of the city, you

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 4>know you're not going to be able to see that

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.399
<v Speaker 4>car extent two streets over. But you know who will

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:30.440
<v Speaker 4>a skyscrapers somebody who's cleaning a skyscraper window washer at

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 4>the very top of the skyscraper from where they're at,

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 4>from where they're situated, would not only be able to

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 4>see you, but would be able to see the car

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 4>accident two streets over. That doesn't make the window washer

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 4>any more enlightened than you and I, but it's from

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 4>where they're situated. From their perspective, they're able to see

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 4>more than perhaps us on kind of a lower level

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 4>of awareness. So they definitely seem to see a lot

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:56.879
<v Speaker 4>they are with us, but not necessarily one at a time.

0:40:56.960 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 4>I think that there's an awareness of that collective sense

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:01.479
<v Speaker 4>of connection that they share.

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I would say, in my experience with my mom,

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 3>like it's not something that's going to fall out of

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 3>the sky and land on your shoulder, you know what

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean. They're not tapping you on the shoulder, like

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 3>they're not touching you in that way. I look at

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 3>it as like, oh, that's a reminder that everything's going

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 3>to be okay. And it's also helpful sometimes for you

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 3>to pick a symbol, like something that was meaningful between

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 3>you and your mom. Like with me and my mom,

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 3>it's an orange. Whenever I'm like stressed out and I

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 3>see an orange out of place, I'm like, oh, my

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 3>mom is telling me everything's going to be kosher, It's okay.

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's a powerful thing to like think

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 3>of something between the two of you and keep your

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 3>eyes open.

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Don't expect it to come to you.

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 3>You sometimes have to find the signs, you know what

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean. It's like everything in life. The more open,

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 3>the more you see, and the more narrow minded, I think,

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 3>the more limited you are, and the less belief you

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 3>have in this kind of possibility.

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 4>And it's beautiful because you kind of create a language.

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 4>Then you know, if you can say this is my sign,

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 4>this is how I would like you to present yourself

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 4>to me if possible, then you kind of have that code.

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 4>You have that language. You are being that bridge and

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:06.320
<v Speaker 4>making an active effort to communicate and keep that relationship

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 4>going in a different way, but a way.

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Nonetheless, Yeah, I do something, and I'm sure you're probably

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 3>not a comedian, Amy, but so this won't be what

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 3>you do. But I do this thing before I walk

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 3>out on stage. Every time, I do this thing where

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 3>I like look up as if my mom's above me.

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I think everything's above me. But actually Tyler just confirmed

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 3>that everything is above us.

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:29.320
<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad for that.

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 3>But I always look up and as I'm walking out,

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm just right before they call my name, I just

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 3>am like I have these ebulience of light like shining

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 3>down around me, which is my mother, and I'm with

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 3>her and she's with me, and we walk out together

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 3>and that's always how I do it.

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 2>And it feels like I'm being lit from within.

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 3>And so if you can have some of this imagery

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 3>for whatever is an important thing that you do, you know,

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 3>in your day, it doesn't have to be something.

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:56.720
<v Speaker 2>That's scary or daring.

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:59.360
<v Speaker 3>It can just be try to invoke your mother's presence,

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 3>really invoke it and be like, Mom, I'm here with you,

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 3>like even if you're you know, you're talking to yourself

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:06.840
<v Speaker 3>or not speaking out loud and just thinking it like

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 3>it's powerful.

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Our brains are much more powerful than we give them

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 2>credit for. So trust it absolutely.

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Being able to live vicariously, you know, and allow her

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.399
<v Speaker 4>to live vicariously through every new action, every achievement, every

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:21.279
<v Speaker 4>new memory, everything you do, every new love that you make,

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 4>every bond that you have, is a way to honor

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 4>her and to allow her to kind of live through

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 4>that in some greater way.

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love everything you guys, don awesome love it.

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:33.320
<v Speaker 4>I knew you would give good advice.

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh good, Well, make sure you go over to his website.

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Amy, Yeah, I'll get you guys connected.

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:39.879
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I'll see you over there.

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 5>Thank you. That, I mean, that really did hit home

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:45.320
<v Speaker 5>for me, you know, the like I need to not

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 5>wait for her to come to me, I need to

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 5>communicate back.

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 4>So yes, yes, that really hit.

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:52.320
<v Speaker 2>So thank you.

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 4>I have a beautiful rest of your day.

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Thank Tyler. How old are you?

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 4>Twenty seven?

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:01.240
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 2>You're very particulate, really really.

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 4>Good moisturizer, and I'm twenty seven.

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 2>It just kind of you have such a good use

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 2>of language.

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I love when young people speak so eloquently, like your words,

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 3>your vocabulary. It sounds very patronizing probably saying that to you,

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 3>but I just love language, and I love when someone

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 3>speaks effortlessly.

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 4>Well that means well, I had a brain injury, of

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:22.840
<v Speaker 4>all things, in a brain surgery when I was eighteen,

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 4>so it actually really affected my ability to I get

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:27.280
<v Speaker 4>a phasia where I can't talk, So that that actually

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 4>really it's a huge compliment. Thank you.

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:33.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, you're probably over corrected right because of your

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 3>brain injury, that you probably work even harder at speaking.

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 4>So well, well, I try my best, but thank you.

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 4>It means a lot.

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Did you have to like relearn a lot of language

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and that sort of thing.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 4>It was a whole process. It's you know, you have

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:47.359
<v Speaker 4>the words inside, but to get them out was really

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.800
<v Speaker 4>the challenge of what is often the case of brain surgery.

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 4>So it's been a lot kind of slowing down. You know,

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 4>you have a lot that you want to say, but

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:55.880
<v Speaker 4>you just kind of have to take one word at

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 4>a time.

0:44:56.400 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 1>So well, our next question comes from Whitney. Dear Chelsea,

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I've been going back and forth for a couple of

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>years about seeking out a medium to help me with

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>my grief. She had lost a couple of grandparents who

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:12.000
<v Speaker 1>were really influential in her life. But I'm very skeptical

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and have no idea how to determine if a medium

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 1>in my area is legitimate or not. I'm assuming that

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 1>mediums who've gained national success must be the real deal,

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 1>but then at that point they're probably out of my

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 1>price range. To say that my grief bogs me down

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:28.239
<v Speaker 1>is an understatement, and I'm not even sure that this

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>would be the way to finally have a sense of

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>relief in my life. But I've tried every other avenue

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 1>so far. I've been to grief counseling, I've seen therapists,

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I've been medicated. I've tried to wear my grief out

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 1>like it's a toddler, but nothing is helping. I know

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll never completely not feel this loss, and I know

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 1>that I'll always wish they were still physically here, but

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I need this enormous weight lifted off my chest. Is

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 1>a medium?

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 3>The answer, Whitney, Yeah, what do you do with somebody

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 3>is having such a difficult time with their grief?

0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:57.320
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:45:57.440 --> 0:45:59.720
<v Speaker 2>What advice can you give someone?

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:02.839
<v Speaker 4>Sure? Well, for one, I think expectation management is good

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 4>and medium will never be the answer or a cure

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 4>all for grief, but it certainly if you find a

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 4>good one can affirm and validate that bond and the

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 4>fact that that bond still continues, and that's really, in essence,

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 4>what any good medium should strive to do. But I

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.480
<v Speaker 4>look at mediumship as that of a practice, and being

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 4>that it's a practice, they are practitioners. And just as

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 4>there are many practitioners in this world, doctors know therapists.

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 4>You want to make sure that if you're seeing a

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 4>practitioner you're going to somebody who is legitimate, and the

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 4>way to do that in this world, in the world

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.920
<v Speaker 4>of mediums, which is unregulated, there is no better business bureau, which,

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 4>to my frustration, is the case. I think it's very

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:42.759
<v Speaker 4>important to go through word of mouth, to go through recommendation.

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 4>Going to somebody that you know comes under high recommendation

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 4>from somebody you trust, somebody you know and have a

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 4>relationship with, it tends to be the best way. And equally,

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 4>some of the best readings I've ever received were for

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 4>free from people who were not even working as mediums

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 4>full time. So there are very talented people that exist

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:06.320
<v Speaker 4>among us who may not openly work as a medium,

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 4>but might still be able to help you out, and

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 4>you'll find them through word of mouth.

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 3>And are there like group mediums, you know, like where

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 3>people can do it if they can't afford something like

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:16.759
<v Speaker 3>you mentioned that on your website, which is also something

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:17.440
<v Speaker 3>you can explore.

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 2>But like, are there a group things where you go

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:21.800
<v Speaker 2>to a root? So is a lot of people I

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:22.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know, is that common?

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 4>So there is a community called lily Dell actually in

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:28.879
<v Speaker 4>northern New York, which is just that people take entire

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 4>tourist destinations to this gated community. In New York, there's

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:35.400
<v Speaker 4>been a spiritualist retreat where mediums live on site and

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:38.920
<v Speaker 4>do readings, and it's an entire kind of tourist industry there.

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 4>So there's certainly that in theory. I think there's something

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:45.879
<v Speaker 4>to be said about just individual experience and being able

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 4>to kind of seek out individual practitioners without giving them information,

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 4>and just kind of understanding when you walk into a

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:56.320
<v Speaker 4>medium reading, you know your loved one more than any medium.

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:59.879
<v Speaker 4>You know they love one's essence. You know how they'd

0:47:59.920 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 4>be and clind to deliver information. And so I think

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:04.600
<v Speaker 4>it's just important to trust that more than any message

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 4>you hear. You know you know and will know if

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:07.919
<v Speaker 4>there's a connection being made.

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:10.400
<v Speaker 3>And also I just want to say, Whitney, your grandparent

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't want you to be suffering in this way. This

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 3>is heartbreaking. No one wants their grandchild to suffer at

0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 3>the loss of her. So that's something to also contemplate.

0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 3>Think about the impact, Like you have an opportunity to

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 3>live your life in honor of your grandmother.

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:28.319
<v Speaker 2>And like live the life, live your life in an

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:29.359
<v Speaker 2>essence for her.

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:31.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, no one should be living their lives for

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 3>another person, but in a way, she can vicariously live

0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:38.640
<v Speaker 3>through you and you can invoke her essence for your life.

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 3>That's a very powerful way to keep those relationships close

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 3>to your heart.

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Even though they may feel far away. And I would

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 2>suggest to try and practice that, you know, to try and.

0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Live, live out loud, live your life fully, and try

0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 3>to really get to a place where you can be

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 3>joyful again. It's not it's easier said than done, but

0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:02.880
<v Speaker 3>if you do it with the idea of your grandmother

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 3>really just kind of smacking you on the butt, like

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I want you to have.

0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 2>The best life.

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 3>This is your chance, Like, please don't get hung up

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 3>on my passing. I want you to succeed and love

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:15.880
<v Speaker 3>and live and all of those things. You know that

0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 3>she would want that for you, absolutely, And.

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 4>We owe it to them to remember them for who

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 4>they were and how they lived versus that one moment

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:27.120
<v Speaker 4>that caused them to transition. And I think it's interesting

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 4>the sense that Maya Angelou, one of my favorites, had

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 4>a quote about similar to Chelsea, when she would go

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 4>on stage, she'd call upon her departed mother, she call

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 4>upon her ancestors, her grandmother, and she said by the

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:40.719
<v Speaker 4>time she walked on stage, she wasn't walking on that

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:43.480
<v Speaker 4>stage alone. She came with an army of people who

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:45.920
<v Speaker 4>loved her. And I think we really are a culmination

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 4>of the love we are given in this world. So

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 4>to be able to harness that, to call upon that

0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:53.960
<v Speaker 4>essence and invoke as Chelsea says, it's such a powerful

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 4>way to still feel that connection even if that physical

0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 4>bond is no longer there.

0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Chelsea and I talked about this on a recent epid.

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.400
<v Speaker 1>So sometimes when you try to push something away, a

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:07.040
<v Speaker 1>feeling away, it makes it worse. And so think of

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 1>your grief as sort of something that you bring along

0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 1>with you. It doesn't mean you can't have joy in

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:13.799
<v Speaker 1>your life, it doesn't mean you can't go about your

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<v Speaker 1>day to day, but that grief is a reminder of

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<v Speaker 1>the closeness that you shared with those people. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you feel that sense of grief, be reminded that that

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<v Speaker 1>person is still with you and that you do still

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<v Speaker 1>have relationship with them. They're right there. That grief is

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<v Speaker 1>part of that relationship, and bring it along with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel it when you need to feel it, but also

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<v Speaker 1>know like it's okay to have that at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time as you're having maybe a joyful moment or something

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<v Speaker 1>was funny, or you know, you're living your life day

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<v Speaker 1>to day. It's okay that that's sort of a passenger

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<v Speaker 1>with you right now. I actually have a question for you, Tyler.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about like reincarnation. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>people can come back?

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't view reincarnation as a linear process, like

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<v Speaker 4>a line. So the traditional view is the ring nation

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<v Speaker 4>is you're born, you die, you're reborn, and you die,

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<v Speaker 4>you're reborn, you die in kind of a line, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And so my belief is that we as a soul

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<v Speaker 4>are a lot more multifasted than we realize. And in essence,

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<v Speaker 4>the best way to describe it is, I think we

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<v Speaker 4>basically can exist in many different forms at once. And

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<v Speaker 4>it looks like we are living our individual little lives

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<v Speaker 4>on our individual little timelines. But my belief is that

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<v Speaker 4>in many ways we kind of have many tentacles in

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<v Speaker 4>many different arenas. And it's very kind of uncomfortable sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>to think about, and it kind of gets into philosophy

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<v Speaker 4>of determinism and all of these things. But I believe

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<v Speaker 4>in a higher self that when we transition we become

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<v Speaker 4>part of something greater than ourselves that has always been

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<v Speaker 4>a part of us, and we kind of reunite with

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<v Speaker 4>that part, and then part of us might you know,

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<v Speaker 4>continue on in other incarnations, but that kind of soul

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<v Speaker 4>essence of us always exists, and I think is always

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<v Speaker 4>retaining information. And that is why I believe I do

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<v Speaker 4>readings for people even if they've reincarnated, which maybe they have,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe they haven't. I'm still able to get information about

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<v Speaker 4>that life, who that person was, even if that's continued on.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's hard to say, you know, it's one of

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<v Speaker 4>those things. It's one of those great mysteries.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's take a quick break and we'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>for our last question with Tyler and Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back. Well, our last question comes from Stephanie Dear Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 1>longtime listener, first time writer. I've always wanted to say

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<v Speaker 1>that when it comes to mediums, I must admit that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bit of a skeptic. I'm a nurse practitioner,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm very science minded, but I also greatly

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<v Speaker 1>want to believe that there are forces greater than us

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<v Speaker 1>that we can't comprehend or measure now to the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I'm writing. My mom passed away this week. She was

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<v Speaker 1>an unstoppable force. When I was six, she was shot

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<v Speaker 1>and paralyzed from the waist down by an accidental gunshot

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<v Speaker 1>wound by a child. She had severe pain for thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one years, but never took any pain medication because she

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to keep her mental capacities sharp. She raised two

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<v Speaker 1>children as a single mom, became CEO of a large

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofit organization, sat on two prominent boards in our community,

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<v Speaker 1>and showed unlimited love to everyone, especially my four and

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 1>nine year old. As you can tell, she was someone

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<v Speaker 1>really special. I cared for her in her last month,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wish I knew how to know she was

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<v Speaker 1>at peace. Tell her we're okay, and that's because she's

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<v Speaker 1>given us all the tools we need to be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for your show. It's a highlight

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<v Speaker 1>of my week. So I think the biggest question is

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<v Speaker 1>how does she let her mom know that they're all okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And how does she know that her mom is okay

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<v Speaker 1>and that she passed without too much pain.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely Well, you know, I think we often do understandably

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<v Speaker 4>get very focused on what causes someone to transition. Even

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<v Speaker 4>under the best of circumstances. So many of us relived

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<v Speaker 4>those last moments or our last interaction, or what could

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<v Speaker 4>have been said or what could have been done, even

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<v Speaker 4>under the best of circumstance answers. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>a very normal place to be in grief, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think when it comes to that awareness, if

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<v Speaker 4>you look at who she was in life, clearly she

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<v Speaker 4>prioritized her children and the generations of family that came

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<v Speaker 4>after her. And so I would say, as you revel

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<v Speaker 4>in every moment, as you reach you know, achievements and

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 4>accomplishments and those big landmark moments, find ways to implement

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:27.839
<v Speaker 4>her into those moments. What maybe you know, we wear

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<v Speaker 4>a piece of jewelry and every time we look at

0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:32.600
<v Speaker 4>that jewelry we think of mom or whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 4>There's ways to still carry them on and allow them

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of live vicariously. But you know, I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's one of the great equalizers of death, is that

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<v Speaker 4>in essence, no matter what we're going through, it does

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<v Speaker 4>allow for some closure of physical suffering. And that's just

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<v Speaker 4>a moment in time that's not someone's eternity exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have to know that people who have crossed

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<v Speaker 3>over are at peace, like you're not in your body anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>so there's no bodily suffering. And I would it would

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<v Speaker 3>be a big leap of faith to think that they're

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<v Speaker 3>suffering beyond this earth, you know what I mean. This

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<v Speaker 3>earth I think has so much suffering already. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>what you're talking about is you're suffering, you know, at

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<v Speaker 3>the loss of your mom. But I when people wreck

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<v Speaker 3>themselves over the circumstances in which somebody passed, like, oh,

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:18.440
<v Speaker 3>they were in such pain it was, even when it's

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<v Speaker 3>a hard crossing, as they say, at least they're not

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<v Speaker 3>suffering anymore. Like that's what's necessary to get them out

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<v Speaker 3>of their body and to stop the suffering. So you

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<v Speaker 3>have to believe that your mother is at peace, regardless

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<v Speaker 3>of how she died, She's at peace now, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think you just have to believe that,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have to know that and just keep telling

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<v Speaker 3>yourself that and keep showing her, you know, in the

0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 3>ways that Tyler suggested, to keep living your life with her.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, not that it's over, she's gone, but your

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<v Speaker 3>relationship with her will never be over.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, just last point with the nursing aspects,

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<v Speaker 4>there's so many hospice nurses that have shared firsthand experiences

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<v Speaker 4>of you know, their own grief and also seeing you know,

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<v Speaker 4>patients at the end of life have very compelling experiences.

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<v Speaker 4>So I would encourage it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask coworkers, Yeah, tell us about your tour, Tyler, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so very much.

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<v Speaker 4>Hitting the road been very busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've seen it on Instagram. You're on fire.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's been so so much fun. I've been really thankful.

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<v Speaker 4>We've had a sold out tour all across the country

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<v Speaker 4>and it's been intense. Every year of twenty six cities,

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<v Speaker 4>I travel all across Midwest to the South, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>in a group setting, so it's anywhere from two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>to three thousand people. I share a little bit about

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<v Speaker 4>my story and what people need to know to get

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<v Speaker 4>the most out of readings, and then it turns into

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<v Speaker 4>a group reading and it's different every single time. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>people come in as strangers and by the end of it,

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<v Speaker 4>they're hugging and it's just a really beautiful experience to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to have that outlet in a society that

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't allow for people to talk about grief. Very much

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<v Speaker 4>to have people come together and feel comfortable honoring that

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<v Speaker 4>vulnerability and what they've gotten through in a shared way.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, and people can get tickets at over at.

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<v Speaker 4>Tyler Henry Hollywood medium dot com. You can check out

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<v Speaker 4>tickets and my full tours get and there's more to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, that's so excellent. You're doing such a great service.

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<v Speaker 3>How nice is it to do what you love and

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<v Speaker 3>have it be so helpful to people?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>I feel so privileged and so humbled every single time.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it truly is mind blowing, and it just

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<v Speaker 4>reminds me of why we have to live mindfully and

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<v Speaker 4>it gives me a deep sense of gratitude and ever

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<v Speaker 4>reading I do, I think there's a message for me

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<v Speaker 4>as well. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a pleasure speaking with you. I hope I get

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<v Speaker 2>to see you again soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, And if you need anything, either of you, if

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<v Speaker 4>I can help in any capacity, if you have any

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<v Speaker 4>follow up readings, friend's family, I'm here and I would

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<v Speaker 4>love to stay in touch.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you, We.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. Bye bye.

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