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Speaker 1: Hi, Hi, Chelsea.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hi, Hi. I'm very very vibrant this morning.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because I haven't had a drink for a

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Speaker 2: When I don't drink.

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Speaker 3: But obviously that's not gonna last, so I try and

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Speaker 3: take a couple down days, you know. But I mean

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Speaker 3: with summertime, it's just very difficult. Too many social engagements,

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Speaker 3: too much traveling. The most amount of time I spend

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Speaker 3: sober is probably on an airplane.

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Speaker 2: I don't like to drink on planes.

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Speaker 1: It does make you feel extra yacky when you get

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Speaker 1: off the plane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't like to mess with that.

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Speaker 3: I like to get on a plane, take a Xanax,

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Speaker 3: go to sleep, wake up, and feel fresh as a daisy.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, that's the way to do it. I once took

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Speaker 1: an adavan on a flight and like watched an entire

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Speaker 1: movie for good. I watched the movie.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to My Whole fucking Life. I don't even so.

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Speaker 3: I've watched entire series and not remembered that I've seen

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Speaker 3: them until like rewatching.

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Speaker 2: Them in three episodes in Yeah, I'm a hot mess.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I'm like half asleep, you know. I like to

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Speaker 3: but I got this.

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Speaker 2: Amazing those Court's face mask that I sleep on. Is

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Speaker 2: it cold, Well, it feels cold.

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Speaker 3: It gets warm in the night, but it's like just

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Speaker 3: with that and any under eye puffiness or swelling or

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Speaker 3: been I'm really into that lately. Anyway, I go to

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Speaker 3: sleep with the TV on, I put on my rose

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Speaker 2: The TV off.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, who's paying attention to television anymore? Anyway?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's so hard to pay attention to anything

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Speaker 3: because we all have such add adhd add by all

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Speaker 3: the bipolar disorder, multiple personality borderline. Anyway, Okay, guys, we

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Speaker 3: have added more shows to my Little Big Bitch tour

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Speaker 3: because I'm coming all over. We add a second show

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Speaker 3: at the Pantagius in Los Angeles, so that's October twelfth

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Speaker 3: and Friday the thirteenth, which is my favorite day of

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Speaker 3: the year. We added a second show in Boston at

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Speaker 3: the Weighing Center September twenty ninth and thirtieth is two

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Speaker 3: in New York. I also have a show in Eastthampton,

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Speaker 3: New York, August twenty six.

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Speaker 2: We added a.

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Speaker 3: Second show in Portland, So Thursday November tewod Friday November third,

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Speaker 3: and Portland November fourth and fifth in San Francisco, two

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Speaker 3: shows there. We added a second show in Seattle November

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Speaker 3: tenth and eleventh. Two shows Boston are November sixteenth and

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Speaker 3: seventeenth at the Bach Center at Wang Theater. And I'm

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Speaker 3: also coming to Toronto and Montreal and Ottawa and so

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Speaker 3: many other cities Columbus, Cincinnati, Detroit, Louisville.

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Speaker 2: So I will see everybody at all of these shows.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Get your tickets at Chelseahandler dot com.

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Speaker 1: Chelsea. Have you always believed in something beyond our physical world,

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Speaker 1: like what we can't see sort of thing, maybe not

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Speaker 3: that there was a God. And then as I became

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Speaker 3: I'm accountable to this invisible eye in the sky. So

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Speaker 3: when there's a choice to make the good decision or

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Speaker 3: I feel like I there's a witness Meanwhile, that's like

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Speaker 3: a fantasy. But as I've grown older, and I think

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Speaker 3: my brother's death and my mother's death makes me believe

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Speaker 2: Always believed it. But sometimes it's just very comforting.

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Speaker 3: And I think that now that I've witnessed all those

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Speaker 2: And someday they're like, it'll be ready in August.

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Speaker 3: My girlfriends are like, Uh, there's no way this house

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Speaker 1: I'm like, watch this house, by the way, that you

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Speaker 3: I can't believe how much time I've spent in rentals

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Speaker 3: see that hummingbird just circling your front door when we

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Speaker 3: So a psychic had said to me, you know, your mother,

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Speaker 2: And I go, you did tell me that? She goes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it just kept circling the door, circling the door, circling

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Speaker 3: But and then when we were there, they're like, there's

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Speaker 3: He goes, yes, at every doorway in the back, in

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Speaker 3: I just I think it's some more fun way to live.

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Speaker 3: And whatever you believe is true is true. It's just

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Speaker 3: like when you tell yourself negative things, they become true,

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Speaker 1: I think that's so true. I love what you say

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Speaker 1: about Like, if you don't know what it means, that's

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Speaker 1: I tried looking it up in numerology and stuff, and

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Speaker 1: But I'm like, I feel like there's some deeper meaning

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Speaker 3: Of course you're attached emotionally, but it's not gone. When

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Speaker 1: And I mean, even from a straight up physics perspective,

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Speaker 3: And when you are aligned with this universal intelligence that

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Speaker 3: And that tip has happened in my life in such

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Speaker 3: a major way that I would be remiss to pretend

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Speaker 2: Headed that I can handle it all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and now I trust myself, and before I didn't

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Speaker 2: Trust myself is a better way to put it.

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Speaker 1: It's a hard thing to learn when something's not going right, Like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, how cute are you? I was so

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much. It means the world. I

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm less comforting but more probably joy.

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Speaker 3: Not everybody's here for everything, you know, Catherine, this is

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Speaker 4: H Well, Catherine, it's lovely to meet you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm basically my mom as a baby was taken

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Speaker 4: It really was. Oh my, the woman who did this,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I bet yeh.

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Speaker 3: God, that must be such a hurdle to get over emotionally,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I mean, there's something to be said about, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. You know, in some ways, my own intuitive

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Speaker 4: Absolutely well, for me, it really started when I was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, life very quickly changed for me.

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Speaker 4: Well this is the No one's gonna believe this, But

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Speaker 4: And then, you know, life obviously went a very different

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Speaker 4: I just kind of felt guided into it.

440
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,440
Speaker 2: Well, that's nice, congrats on that. Are we going to

441
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,680
Speaker 2: do a little reading as Tyler?

442
00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,000
Speaker 1: Are you going to open that doing a little reading

443
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 1: for Chelsea?

444
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, so absolutely, I would love to.

445
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,640
Speaker 1: Well let's take a quick break and we'll be back

446
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 1: with Tyler.

447
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 2: And Chelsea and we're back.

448
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 1: We're back.

449
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,679
Speaker 4: So as far as this reading goes, I have my

450
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,120
Speaker 4: pen and paper here, so I'm happy to scribble and

451
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 4: it might take about thirty seconds for stuff to start

452
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 4: coming through. Information can come through about both of you,

453
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 4: So just kind of good to keep this in mind.

454
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,560
Speaker 4: Something might make sense for one the other it might

455
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 4: not so much, and so we'll kind of go back

456
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,120
Speaker 4: and forth if that happens. But I'm going to scribble

457
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 4: and then we'll kind of see which direction we go. Now,

458
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 4: very often what will happen is information will come through

459
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 4: around conversations. We've just had family dynamics, things we were

460
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 4: just doing. If anything too sensitive comes through, I'll share

461
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 4: with you after the fact off recording. But yeah, generally

462
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 4: it just kind of helps me get a map of

463
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 4: where I'm going.

464
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 3: Like if my father's planning on coming back and reincarnating

465
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 3: himself during my life, that would be problematic for me.

466
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 4: That you know what I'm here.

467
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 3: You know, it's something something's funny that I always say

468
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 3: when I meditate or when I'm feeling spiritual or connected

469
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 3: really like to the universe, and I do my mantras

470
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 3: or whatever I'm into at the time, I always feel

471
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 3: my mom and my brother, but I never ever feel

472
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 3: my father.

473
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I feel like he's getting He's in

474
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 2: the spin.

475
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 3: Cycle, like in perfectory, making up for all all of

476
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 3: his bad behavior.

477
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 4: He's just in limbo. But you know it's working, working

478
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 4: our way out the spin cycle exactly. We're good. Well,

479
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 4: we'll see if anything comes through, because one thing I

480
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 4: actually want to start with so immediately I have to

481
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 4: highlight for some reason, when we talk about females within family,

482
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 4: I'm being a big fan of you of course know

483
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 4: your mom has passed, but I have to highlight for

484
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 4: some reason acknowledgment also around an aunt. So if you

485
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 4: have any aunts that have passed away, it could be

486
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 4: a way of just kind of trying to acknowledge that

487
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,360
Speaker 4: I like to relay exactly as a symbology comes through

488
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 4: kind of how I'm seeing it, And that's one of

489
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 4: the individuals I feel like I have to highlight in

490
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 4: some kind of capacity, check and see within Chelsea, within

491
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 4: your family, if there's anyone who's passed away in their

492
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 4: sixties that would be female, So like, I don't feel

493
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 4: like I get to hit my seventies. I feel like

494
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,719
Speaker 4: I passed away kind of closer to my sixties, and

495
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 4: it wouldn't be your mother, so it would be somebody else.

496
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 4: And that's just kind of good to keep in mind

497
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 4: without giving any information away off the top of your head.

498
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 4: Do you know of any females who would have passed

499
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 4: away in their sixties that.

500
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 3: Would have Yeah, my mom's sister, Elka, would have passed

501
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 3: away in her sixties, so yeah, I have one aunt, Elka.

502
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we'd kind of be going in that direction.

503
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 4: The way this keeps coming in is I keep having

504
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 4: to talk about that aunt acknowledgment in the way, this

505
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 4: comes through a couple of cancer susceptibilities that would exist

506
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 4: within family that just need to be kept in mind generationally.

507
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 4: So I, as far I know, I believe your mom

508
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 4: did deal with some kind of cancer. Is that correct? Yes,

509
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 4: I'm aware of that, But I also feel like somebody

510
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 4: else may have also dealt with that susceptibility. That also

511
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 4: comes through as being significant and female and dealing with

512
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 4: this at kind of an earlier age. So on mom's

513
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 4: side of family, do you know of any other females

514
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 4: who dealt with cancer?

515
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: No, I don't, no worries.

516
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 4: Any like cancer scares, cancer bouts. When we talk about

517
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 4: her sister, do you know if she had any areas

518
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 4: of concern in that area?

519
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 3: I forget how she died, but it wasn't cancer. I'm

520
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 3: pretty sure she had. I think she had heart issues, gotcha.

521
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 4: She seems like a very strong person's kind of the

522
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 4: way we describe it in sense of like strong will.

523
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 4: I'm not going anywhere. I don't know why, but I

524
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 4: have to highlight more than one health related thing, and

525
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 4: I'm putting it definitely more around her. So just something

526
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 4: to look into and we'll kind of look and see

527
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 4: if we can confirm with that. I have to talk

528
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 4: about some reference in the way this comes across to

529
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 4: somebody receiving a gift, and it would be an art piece,

530
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 4: but it would be of a dog, and this would

531
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 4: be of a dog that passed So if somebody received

532
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 4: some form of either an illustration of a dog that died,

533
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 4: I feel like I have to highlight this event happening

534
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 4: in some way. If it hasn't happened yet, it may

535
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 4: like we just end up getting surprised by this gift,

536
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 4: but it would be something thoughtful that somebody would do,

537
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 4: as like a rendition to honor an animal that has

538
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 4: passed away.

539
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had it's plenty of those with my dog Chunk,

540
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: because Chunk was such a public stud that people sent

541
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 3: me so many beautiful things after he died, and a

542
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 3: lot of them were paintings, and like, yeah.

543
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 4: It's sweet and it's really symbolic in the sense of

544
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 4: when we see these things, it's just those reminders that

545
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 4: we hold on too, that feeling it kind of brings

546
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 4: back and the importance of holding onto that. I also

547
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 4: have to talk about Atlantic City and This is just

548
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 4: good to keep in mind. I'm seeing Atlantic City, and

549
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 4: anytime I see Atlantic City, I've been there before. It's

550
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 4: usually a place I attribute to casinos in some capacity.

551
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 4: But if there's any sentimental memories, So do you know

552
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 4: any significant memories in that kind of area.

553
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 3: Well, that's where I met Bill Cosby, so that was significant, significantly.

554
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was awake because.

555
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yes, well you remember it.

556
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm aware that it happened. So there's that.

557
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, I perform an Atlantic City on every tour,

558
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: of which I'm on one right now. So my family

559
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 3: usually comes down there, and I have a lot of

560
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: pictures of the beach in Atlantic City with my nieces.

561
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have that.

562
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: One thing I want to look into is there's some

563
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 4: acknowledgement it kept hearing a little birdie you told me,

564
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 4: So anytime that comes through for some reason with your mom,

565
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 4: there's some connection as this comes through with like a

566
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 4: little bird visiting. So if you find that, like you

567
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 4: when this hang when we hang up, if you like

568
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 4: go to your window and there's a little bird sitting there,

569
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 4: it's those kinds of things that often happen that kind

570
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 4: of validate what we hear in readings, but I feel

571
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 4: like there's some visitation involving a little bird.

572
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 3: It's so funny, that's so true because I've heard this before,

573
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 3: and I've read about people and like the most common

574
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 3: ways that they show you signs from the other side,

575
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 3: and birds is obviously very common. But someone once told

576
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 3: me check for birds nests outside of any place that

577
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 3: you live, like they're going to be in weird places.

578
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: And like three months.

579
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: Ago, I have a house in Whistler.

580
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 3: The guy who takes care of my house for me

581
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: set me a picture of a bird's nest right outside

582
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: the window and he goes, Oh, my god, this bird's

583
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: nest was here all winter.

584
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: Did you see it? And I thought, oh, that's my mother.

585
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 4: Oh I love that. So that's just kind of for

586
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 4: me when things like that get brought up in a reading.

587
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 4: It's a way to kind of refer back to an

588
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 4: event you would be familiar with, something that you can

589
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 4: recollect and kind of almost validate as a way of

590
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 4: saying that is indeed either me or I know that

591
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 4: you thought that was me at the very least, and

592
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 4: that for me is often very comforting. I have to

593
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 4: talk about that I woke up this morning hearing the

594
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 4: song idole wise, idle wise, idle wise. It's a song

595
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 4: from I think the sound of music. There's some darn

596
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 4: sentimentality with that song, and it will go back, and

597
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 4: it could go back generations even but idleways.

598
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: Well, my mom was German, so she was from that

599
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: neck of the woods.

600
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 4: I love it if there's some sentimentality, if that song

601
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 4: was played as a child for somebody on a music box,

602
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 4: just remember that. I'm saying that check into it, because

603
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 4: I think we'll end up knowing where that fits. It

604
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 4: feels like we're kind of going back in time on

605
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 4: some kind of larger capacity. So I have to ask

606
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 4: as it relates to your kind of overall physical body,

607
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 4: one thing to consider is as we go to lower

608
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 4: I keep in mind that you have a susceptibility when

609
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 4: it comes to legs of one leg being weaker than

610
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 4: the other, and just wanting to be mindful of this

611
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: because for some reason, when we're talking about balance, I'm

612
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 4: almost more inclined to worry about one like almost slipping up,

613
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 4: so that generally for me can sometimes indicate likenie susceptibilities.

614
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: Ankle susceptibilities anywhere we would have like a joint on

615
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 4: one side more than the other. Just be mindful of

616
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,239
Speaker 4: that if you notice any issues. Because I don't think

617
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 4: things are set in stone, we can kind of, you know,

618
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 4: knowledge his power on some greater sense. One thing I

619
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 4: want to talk about when we go to Dad's side

620
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 4: is when we do talk about that department. One thing

621
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 4: that I want to acknowledge. When I focus on that symbology,

622
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: I do not get a lot, but I will tell

623
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 4: you what I get. There's an acknowledgment of our dad,

624
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 4: either my symbology around what do we do with him?

625
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 4: Where do we put him, where does he go? If

626
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 4: there was a decision around someone either going into a

627
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 4: nursing home or having a rehabilitative kind of situation where

628
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 4: they need to be taken care of through the help

629
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: of professionals, there's some conversation around that in some large capacity.

630
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 4: But what's interesting is there's this feeling of if somebody

631
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 4: was not or if people were not able to be

632
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: there when he died, there's this feeling of that's okay,

633
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 4: I went the way that I was supposed to go.

634
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: But sometimes people will come through and say, like, no,

635
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 4: I needed everybody around me. I'm not getting that feeling

636
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 4: with him. There's this feeling of I went and almost

637
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: timed my passing. And I don't know why, but if

638
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 4: somebody like almost intentionally went when they went to avoid people.

639
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 4: But I don't mean to say it in such a

640
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 4: kind of way, but it just kind of feels almost

641
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 4: like not having everybody involved when it comes to sending

642
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 4: me off, Well.

643
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: That's how I want to go. So, I mean, I

644
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: totally related my father feeling that way.

645
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 4: If that's how he felt, it's definitely an interesting sense

646
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 4: of timing my passing. When it comes to dad situation,

647
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 4: were there people around at the very end or did

648
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 4: he pass kind of more solo?

649
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: He wasn't with any of us. Yeah, he was solow

650
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: in one of those assisted living places.

651
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 4: So the way that that comes in is basically, you

652
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 4: know some people live and feel like I wish I

653
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 4: would have been there. I wish I could have been

654
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 4: there for him. There's this feeling of like didn't need

655
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 4: people to be there, timed by passing. Yeah, the interesting

656
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 4: thing is I feel like he kind of held on

657
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 4: a little longer than I would have even expected, which

658
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: is kind of strange. He gives me an earlier acknoledgement

659
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 4: of an earlier point where I almost feel like we

660
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: were like ready to say goodbye, and then he pulls

661
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 4: through in some capacity, in some larger, larger kind of way,

662
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 4: and then ends up passing a little later on, and

663
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: they're like, what, like, we thought I was going to

664
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: be the earlier thing. Did you have any earlier situations?

665
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: Yes, we were hoping he would die a lot sooner

666
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: than he did, because at a certain point it was

667
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: just not a quality life. And he was such a

668
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: stubborn asshole that he wouldn't die, you know what I mean.

669
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: He was just like holding on tightly to his anger.

670
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: I remember when my sister called to tell me that

671
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: my dad died. My sister Shauna, and I was in

672
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: the car with my driver, Billy, and she was crying

673
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: and she goes, dad died this morning.

674
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I said, why are you crying? And

675
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: she's like, I don't know. We've been waiting for this

676
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: for years.

677
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: Like not because we hate our dad. I mean, he

678
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: was disappointing on many levels, but we all really loved him.

679
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: It was just that it was no way to live anymore.

680
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: So I think he definitely extended his life about six

681
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: or seven years longer than necessary.

682
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 4: With that, though, equally comes in awareness of certain cognitive biases,

683
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: certain cycles that you as an individual have broken on

684
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 4: a larger scale. And there's just an interesting acknowledgement when

685
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 4: it comes to Dad about Dad not being able to

686
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: see things in life, being shortsighted in a larger capacity,

687
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 4: and from where he's at now, I truly believe there's

688
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 4: a greater clarity in understanding that ripple effect.

689
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: Oh.

690
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 4: I love that of how both his actions and inactions

691
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 4: affected the people around him. And I would really just say,

692
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 4: I don't get a maliciousness around him. I just kind

693
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: of get a sense of I feel like he might

694
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 4: have sometimes offended people without intending to offend them. And

695
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 4: it's almost like when someone says the worst possible thing

696
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: at the worst possible time, but they thought they were

697
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 4: being comforting. There's something there that just kind of comes

698
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: through that if anybody feels he kind of had that quality,

699
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 4: there's an acknowledgement of warning to wife that clean of

700
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 4: I see maybe perhaps the insensitivity or my timing not

701
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: always being the best, but people maybe not understanding that

702
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 4: from his perspective, so I don't really feel bad about it.

703
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well I definitely have a little bit of

704
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: what you're describing as well. I was born with the

705
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: ability to say the wrong thing at the wrong time

706
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: or the right thing at the wrong time.

707
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: There you go, you know it definitely, uh, it happens.

708
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: But there's definitely what I would say is fill a

709
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 4: sense of in hindsight and understanding.

710
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: Who was born in August my brother Roy?

711
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 4: Okay, now, for some reason, and this is just one

712
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: thing to consider. There's an acknowledgement around like one brother

713
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,719
Speaker 4: and then an brother and having to kind of separate

714
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: the two for some reason. Oftentimes objects that come through

715
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 4: have a lot more meaning than just their initial kind

716
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 4: of application. Check and see if anybody has any horse paintings.

717
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: Kind of a weird thing to say. I don't know

718
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 4: where it's coming from, but like if somebody in the

719
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: family made a painting of a horse or has a

720
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 4: painting of a horse.

721
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: I don't know why that I've been called a horse

722
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: before a horse face? Is that what we're talking about?

723
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 4: Well, I think you're okay in that regard, but it's

724
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: kind of a weird generational thing. I feel like I'm

725
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 4: going back, and I'm not even entirely sure where to

726
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 4: place it. It could be switching gears to Catherine as

727
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 4: far as this goes.

728
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: So, I definitely have some paintings of horses, one specifically

729
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: that's from my grandfather's house.

730
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: Okay, I feel wow. I want to kind of go

731
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: to you because I do sometimes get polls and I

732
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 4: have to kind of go with those poles because they're inclinations,

733
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: and we all have inclinations. But yeah, I think there's

734
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 4: something to inform in that, So give me the may

735
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: scribble really quick, Catherine. One of the areas that does

736
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: pop up is just kind of a hypervigilance around the

737
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 4: feminine system. That's usually ovarian, uterine, cervical. But I'm kind

738
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 4: of going to lower again, this may not be something

739
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 4: we include now.

740
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm very open. I've got endometriosis and had sort of

741
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: for that a couple of years ago, so about yeah.

742
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 4: Gotcha, gotcha. I hope you're on the mend. I just

743
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 4: want to keep it in mind. There's some acknowledgement around

744
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 4: what I would view as like susceptibility information bybroid's ovari

745
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 4: insistently just kind of being mindful of that thing. I'm

746
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: just kind of just being on top of that, Catherine,

747
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: in your family, I'm just kind of curious check and

748
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 4: see if there were two passings within a very relatively

749
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 4: short period of time. There's an acknowledgement of three years

750
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: and two people within family passing in three years, so

751
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: that comes in pretty strongly. Do you know off the

752
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: top of your head, like two passings in three years?

753
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would definitely say my two grandparents

754
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: on my father's side passed within two years of each other.

755
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 4: Gotcha. And when we talked about the lung cancer susceptibility

756
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 4: things separately from I would just look into it and

757
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 4: see if perhaps when we talk about dad side of family, Catherine,

758
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 4: for you, do you know of any situations involving three

759
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 4: siblings on Dad's side?

760
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: Do we know what kind of situation?

761
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 4: It's basically so I have to highlight an acknowledgment of

762
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 4: three and it's generationally going back above you, which usually

763
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 4: would put that on Dad's level.

764
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad has three half siblings that he grew

765
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: up with, and there's a lot of half siblings that

766
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: he did not grow up with, so that could be

767
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: what that is.

768
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 4: Okay, I having to highlight. The three generally be three

769
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 4: that we'd be kind of more familiar with in some capacity.

770
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 4: That's more for some reason, I'm putting some kind of

771
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 4: long lung diagnosis lung prognostiy.

772
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, I absolutely know what that is. Yeah,

773
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: my aunt Debbie died of emphasema or like complications from emphysema,

774
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: which is okay, one of those three.

775
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I definitely want to go there. I just

776
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 4: generally interpret anything that would be like a terminal lung thing.

777
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: That's kind of the symbology I'll get, and that's what

778
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: I was getting. So I'm glad we figured out where

779
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 4: it is all good as far as as living people goes,

780
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: which is kind of good to be on top of that.

781
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: And when you bring up like hew issues, is it

782
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: as to heat a warning or is it to like,

783
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: I mean, when someone has already crossed over, say, and

784
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 3: you're you're acknowledging how they went, is that a confirmation

785
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: in a sense that you're speaking to them.

786
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: Is that why they're like saying it like to confirm

787
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 2: their presence?

788
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: So how someone passes is a big part of their

789
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 4: life story, and so very often people's lives and what

790
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 4: they valued and who they were will come through. But

791
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: very often a way to kind of validate will be,

792
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 4: you know, kind of leading with what led to where

793
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 4: I'm at now, and that's usually well always the cause

794
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 4: of death.

795
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 3: Oh okay, well that was very juicy and cute. I

796
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 3: like that little speed round. Okay, so let's give some

797
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: advice out.

798
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm ready.

799
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: We'll take a little break and be right back.

800
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: And we're back.

801
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: We're back with Tyler, Henry and Chelsea. Our first email

802
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: comes from Denise. Dear Chelsea. I recently lost my mother

803
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: unexpectedly to a stroke, and I'm pretty devastated. This was

804
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: the heart est thing I've ever gone through. My mother

805
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: was not only an amazing woman but also my best friend.

806
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: I used to talk to her two to three times

807
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: daily and she was my bouncing board for everything. The

808
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: constant pain I'm feeling is unbearable, and I'm learning about grieving.

809
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: They say that even though people die, you can speak

810
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: with them and that they're still here with you. I

811
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: find myself having conversations with my mom, but I don't

812
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: know if it's me talking to myself or is it her.

813
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: How do you know? And when is too soon to

814
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: see a medium all the best, Denise.

815
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 4: What a beautiful question, Denise. You know, I would just

816
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: say when it comes to seeing a medium, it's important

817
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 4: to do that when we've gotten to a place in

818
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 4: our grief where I think we've been able to fundamentally

819
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 4: process that physical loss. Medium reading is not a cure

820
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 4: for grief, and it's important that we go through the

821
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 4: process of being able to find acceptance. However that looks

822
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 4: to us in being hopefully able to see grief counselors

823
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 4: or find a sense of community or finds a sense

824
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 4: of support before we go and receive a reading. So

825
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: that would be my kind of general advice when it

826
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 4: comes to the protocol. Largely though, I think when it

827
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 4: comes to you know, wondering if they're there, if they notice,

828
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 4: are they connected? Those are all very normal questions to have,

829
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: and for me, I find in my own work one

830
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 4: of the number one ways that they often seem to

831
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: answer is through something called meaningful coincidence called synchronicity. And

832
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 4: synchronicities happen, and you know, very often they are moments

833
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 4: where events line up and we just kind of feel

834
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 4: in an uncanny sense of wonder wondering, you know, was

835
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 4: that you. And I think that even those moments where

836
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: we stop and are kind of struck by this sense

837
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 4: of questioning, those very often are signs and ways to

838
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 4: let them know and affirm that they're still with us.

839
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 4: So not only our dreams a great way for people

840
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 4: to kind of come in. Timing is also something important

841
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 4: to look at as a way that in a vehicle

842
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 4: of which they communicate.

843
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 3: And I also want to add in, like you just

844
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 3: have to believe, like you, if you believe it, then

845
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: it's true to you, you know, and if you like

846
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 3: when I'm talking to my mom, I never doubt it

847
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: for a second because I want to believe it. You know,

848
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 3: I would recommend to try not to resist the judgment

849
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: of your communication with your mom. People, don't you know,

850
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 3: they're not gone. The love that existed, it will always remain,

851
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 3: and that is a piece of her that you will

852
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 3: always have, So it's never ever gonna leave, like your

853
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: aura and your energy field, like that's your mom. So

854
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: you have to trust in that, I think energetically to know,

855
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 3: like you think your mom is just going to die

856
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: and just forget about you and disappear, and did you

857
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 3: no fucking way is your mom gonna do that?

858
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also like, what's the harm in believing that?

859
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: Like exactly, you're a total cynic, Like why not be

860
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: like I'm just having a conversation with my mom.

861
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: Well, and truly, there's something to be said about subjective

862
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 4: you know, truths and objective truths and creativity, love, spirituality.

863
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 4: They exist very much on the meaning oriented arenas, and

864
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 4: that's a big part of it. So you know, objective

865
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 4: truths are the pursuit of science, that's math, you know,

866
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 4: that's technology. Subjectivity exists and kind of a different realm,

867
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 4: one that is still valuable and still has meaning, but

868
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily have to be understood by everybody around you.

869
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: Right right, You know, if you believe in your mother,

870
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: that's all that matters. If you believe that your mother,

871
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 3: that you're talking to her and it's so comforting, why

872
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 3: would you deny yourself that comfort?

873
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: Exactly?

874
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: And also, like it seems true to your relationship with

875
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: your mom. You checked in two or three times a day.

876
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: You are constantly in conversation, So why wouldn't you still

877
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: be in conversation with her? Why wouldn't she still be

878
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: having a conversation with you? I think that's wonderful.

879
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

880
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: Well, let's jump to a caller. I have Amy on

881
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: the line here, Dear Chelsea, my mom very recently passed away.

882
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: I was wondering if, once someone crossed over, if they

883
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: have to prioritize how often they visit loved ones. My

884
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: mom would want to visit her three granddaughters first, and

885
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: then my sister and my dad. I don't know that

886
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: she would feel the need to visit me as much,

887
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: since I'm living an average life with not a lot

888
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: for her to worry about. See if she was a

889
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: big worrier, But I thought I would get the sense

890
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: that she was around me more. I keep thinking maybe

891
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: she's focusing on those that need her presence more. Chelsea.

892
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: Having lost significant family in your life, what has been

893
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: your experience and have you received any signs that they're

894
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: with you? And how often? Hi?

895
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 4: Amy?

896
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: Hi? Amy?

897
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 4: Hell?

898
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 5: How Hi?

899
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: Hi?

900
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: This is Tyler Henry. He's our special guest today.

901
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 4: Hello, Hi, oh, thank you for joining us.

902
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: Wow, So you feel like your mom.

903
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 3: Do you feel like your siblings or your dad or

904
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: any of the people you mentioned feel her presence at all?

905
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: You know, I think that they do.

906
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 5: I don't know if I was expecting some grand sign.

907
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 5: I just kind of wanted to know that she was okay,

908
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 5: and she died of cancer and it was a difficult passing,

909
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 5: and it just kind of expected maybe rainbows or forerd

910
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 5: to land on my shoulder.

911
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: Or something, and absolutely so. Well, first, what I want

912
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 4: to say, Amy, is I would love if you contacted

913
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 4: my website. We'll give you a full free membership to

914
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 4: the Collective where you can take part in group readings

915
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 4: and see the experience and potentially receive one yourself. So

916
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 4: we'd love to have you over there. But to your question,

917
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 4: you know, when it comes to spirituality on a larger scale,

918
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 4: the analogy I like to use when it comes to

919
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 4: where they're at is this. I like to say, if

920
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 4: you imagine that you are in New York City and

921
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 4: you know there's a car accident that happens two streets over,

922
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 4: if you are in the middle of the city, you

923
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 4: know you're not going to be able to see that

924
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 4: car extent two streets over. But you know who will

925
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 4: a skyscrapers somebody who's cleaning a skyscraper window washer at

926
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 4: the very top of the skyscraper from where they're at,

927
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: from where they're situated, would not only be able to

928
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: see you, but would be able to see the car

929
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: accident two streets over. That doesn't make the window washer

930
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: any more enlightened than you and I, but it's from

931
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 4: where they're situated. From their perspective, they're able to see

932
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 4: more than perhaps us on kind of a lower level

933
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 4: of awareness. So they definitely seem to see a lot

934
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 4: they are with us, but not necessarily one at a time.

935
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 4: I think that there's an awareness of that collective sense

936
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,479
Speaker 4: of connection that they share.

937
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would say, in my experience with my mom,

938
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: like it's not something that's going to fall out of

939
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 3: the sky and land on your shoulder, you know what

940
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 3: I mean. They're not tapping you on the shoulder, like

941
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 3: they're not touching you in that way. I look at

942
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: it as like, oh, that's a reminder that everything's going

943
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: to be okay. And it's also helpful sometimes for you

944
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: to pick a symbol, like something that was meaningful between

945
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: you and your mom. Like with me and my mom,

946
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: it's an orange. Whenever I'm like stressed out and I

947
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: see an orange out of place, I'm like, oh, my

948
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: mom is telling me everything's going to be kosher, It's okay.

949
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: And I think that's a powerful thing to like think

950
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: of something between the two of you and keep your

951
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 3: eyes open.

952
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: Don't expect it to come to you.

953
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: You sometimes have to find the signs, you know what

954
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: I mean. It's like everything in life. The more open,

955
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: the more you see, and the more narrow minded, I think,

956
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 3: the more limited you are, and the less belief you

957
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: have in this kind of possibility.

958
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: And it's beautiful because you kind of create a language.

959
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 4: Then you know, if you can say this is my sign,

960
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 4: this is how I would like you to present yourself

961
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 4: to me if possible, then you kind of have that code.

962
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 4: You have that language. You are being that bridge and

963
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 4: making an active effort to communicate and keep that relationship

964
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 4: going in a different way, but a way.

965
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: Nonetheless, Yeah, I do something, and I'm sure you're probably

966
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: not a comedian, Amy, but so this won't be what

967
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: you do. But I do this thing before I walk

968
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: out on stage. Every time, I do this thing where

969
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: I like look up as if my mom's above me.

970
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: I think everything's above me. But actually Tyler just confirmed

971
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: that everything is above us.

972
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 2: So I'm glad for that.

973
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: But I always look up and as I'm walking out,

974
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 3: I'm just right before they call my name, I just

975
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: am like I have these ebulience of light like shining

976
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: down around me, which is my mother, and I'm with

977
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 3: her and she's with me, and we walk out together

978
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: and that's always how I do it.

979
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: And it feels like I'm being lit from within.

980
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: And so if you can have some of this imagery

981
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: for whatever is an important thing that you do, you know,

982
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: in your day, it doesn't have to be something.

983
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 2: That's scary or daring.

984
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 3: It can just be try to invoke your mother's presence,

985
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 3: really invoke it and be like, Mom, I'm here with you,

986
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: like even if you're you know, you're talking to yourself

987
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 3: or not speaking out loud and just thinking it like

988
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: it's powerful.

989
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: Our brains are much more powerful than we give them

990
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: credit for. So trust it absolutely.

991
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: Being able to live vicariously, you know, and allow her

992
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 4: to live vicariously through every new action, every achievement, every

993
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 4: new memory, everything you do, every new love that you make,

994
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 4: every bond that you have, is a way to honor

995
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 4: her and to allow her to kind of live through

996
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 4: that in some greater way.

997
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I love everything you guys, don awesome love it.

998
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 4: I knew you would give good advice.

999
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: Oh good, Well, make sure you go over to his website.

1000
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Amy, Yeah, I'll get you guys connected.

1001
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'll see you over there.

1002
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 5: Thank you. That, I mean, that really did hit home

1003
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 5: for me, you know, the like I need to not

1004
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 5: wait for her to come to me, I need to

1005
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 5: communicate back.

1006
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 4: So yes, yes, that really hit.

1007
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 2: So thank you.

1008
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 4: I have a beautiful rest of your day.

1009
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: Thank Tyler. How old are you?

1010
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 4: Twenty seven?

1011
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 1: Wow?

1012
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: You're very particulate, really really.

1013
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: Good moisturizer, and I'm twenty seven.

1014
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: It just kind of you have such a good use

1015
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: of language.

1016
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: I love when young people speak so eloquently, like your words,

1017
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: your vocabulary. It sounds very patronizing probably saying that to you,

1018
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: but I just love language, and I love when someone

1019
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 3: speaks effortlessly.

1020
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 4: Well that means well, I had a brain injury, of

1021
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 4: all things, in a brain surgery when I was eighteen,

1022
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 4: so it actually really affected my ability to I get

1023
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 4: a phasia where I can't talk, So that that actually

1024
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 4: really it's a huge compliment. Thank you.

1025
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, you're probably over corrected right because of your

1026
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 3: brain injury, that you probably work even harder at speaking.

1027
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: So well, well, I try my best, but thank you.

1028
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 4: It means a lot.

1029
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: Did you have to like relearn a lot of language

1030
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: and that sort of thing.

1031
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 4: It was a whole process. It's you know, you have

1032
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 4: the words inside, but to get them out was really

1033
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 4: the challenge of what is often the case of brain surgery.

1034
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: So it's been a lot kind of slowing down. You know,

1035
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: you have a lot that you want to say, but

1036
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 4: you just kind of have to take one word at

1037
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 4: a time.

1038
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: So well, our next question comes from Whitney. Dear Chelsea,

1039
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: I've been going back and forth for a couple of

1040
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: years about seeking out a medium to help me with

1041
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: my grief. She had lost a couple of grandparents who

1042
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: were really influential in her life. But I'm very skeptical

1043
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: and have no idea how to determine if a medium

1044
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: in my area is legitimate or not. I'm assuming that

1045
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: mediums who've gained national success must be the real deal,

1046
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: but then at that point they're probably out of my

1047
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: price range. To say that my grief bogs me down

1048
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: is an understatement, and I'm not even sure that this

1049
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: would be the way to finally have a sense of

1050
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: relief in my life. But I've tried every other avenue

1051
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: so far. I've been to grief counseling, I've seen therapists,

1052
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: I've been medicated. I've tried to wear my grief out

1053
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: like it's a toddler, but nothing is helping. I know

1054
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: I'll never completely not feel this loss, and I know

1055
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: that I'll always wish they were still physically here, but

1056
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: I need this enormous weight lifted off my chest. Is

1057
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: a medium?

1058
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 3: The answer, Whitney, Yeah, what do you do with somebody

1059
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: is having such a difficult time with their grief?

1060
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 4: Like?

1061
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 2: What advice can you give someone?

1062
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 4: Sure? Well, for one, I think expectation management is good

1063
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 4: and medium will never be the answer or a cure

1064
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 4: all for grief, but it certainly if you find a

1065
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: good one can affirm and validate that bond and the

1066
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: fact that that bond still continues, and that's really, in essence,

1067
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 4: what any good medium should strive to do. But I

1068
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 4: look at mediumship as that of a practice, and being

1069
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 4: that it's a practice, they are practitioners. And just as

1070
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 4: there are many practitioners in this world, doctors know therapists.

1071
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: You want to make sure that if you're seeing a

1072
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 4: practitioner you're going to somebody who is legitimate, and the

1073
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 4: way to do that in this world, in the world

1074
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 4: of mediums, which is unregulated, there is no better business bureau, which,

1075
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 4: to my frustration, is the case. I think it's very

1076
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 4: important to go through word of mouth, to go through recommendation.

1077
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 4: Going to somebody that you know comes under high recommendation

1078
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 4: from somebody you trust, somebody you know and have a

1079
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 4: relationship with, it tends to be the best way. And equally,

1080
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 4: some of the best readings I've ever received were for

1081
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 4: free from people who were not even working as mediums

1082
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: full time. So there are very talented people that exist

1083
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 4: among us who may not openly work as a medium,

1084
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 4: but might still be able to help you out, and

1085
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 4: you'll find them through word of mouth.

1086
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: And are there like group mediums, you know, like where

1087
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: people can do it if they can't afford something like

1088
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: you mentioned that on your website, which is also something

1089
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 3: you can explore.

1090
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: But like, are there a group things where you go

1091
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 2: to a root? So is a lot of people I

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Speaker 2: don't know, is that common?

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Speaker 4: So there is a community called lily Dell actually in

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00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 4: northern New York, which is just that people take entire

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00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 4: tourist destinations to this gated community. In New York, there's

1096
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 4: been a spiritualist retreat where mediums live on site and

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00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 4: do readings, and it's an entire kind of tourist industry there.

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Speaker 4: So there's certainly that in theory. I think there's something

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Speaker 4: to be said about just individual experience and being able

1100
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 4: to kind of seek out individual practitioners without giving them information,

1101
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 4: and just kind of understanding when you walk into a

1102
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Speaker 4: medium reading, you know your loved one more than any medium.

1103
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 4: You know they love one's essence. You know how they'd

1104
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 4: be and clind to deliver information. And so I think

1105
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 4: it's just important to trust that more than any message

1106
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 4: you hear. You know you know and will know if

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00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 4: there's a connection being made.

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Speaker 3: And also I just want to say, Whitney, your grandparent

1109
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: wouldn't want you to be suffering in this way. This

1110
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: is heartbreaking. No one wants their grandchild to suffer at

1111
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: the loss of her. So that's something to also contemplate.

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Speaker 3: Think about the impact, Like you have an opportunity to

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00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: live your life in honor of your grandmother.

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Speaker 2: And like live the life, live your life in an

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00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 2: essence for her.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no one should be living their lives for

1117
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 3: another person, but in a way, she can vicariously live

1118
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: through you and you can invoke her essence for your life.

1119
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: That's a very powerful way to keep those relationships close

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Speaker 3: to your heart.

1121
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Speaker 2: Even though they may feel far away. And I would

1122
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: suggest to try and practice that, you know, to try and.

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Speaker 3: Live, live out loud, live your life fully, and try

1124
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Speaker 3: to really get to a place where you can be

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Speaker 3: joyful again. It's not it's easier said than done, but

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Speaker 3: if you do it with the idea of your grandmother

1127
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: really just kind of smacking you on the butt, like

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Speaker 3: I want you to have.

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Speaker 2: The best life.

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Speaker 3: This is your chance, Like, please don't get hung up

1131
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: on my passing. I want you to succeed and love

1132
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: and live and all of those things. You know that

1133
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 3: she would want that for you, absolutely, And.

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Speaker 4: We owe it to them to remember them for who

1135
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 4: they were and how they lived versus that one moment

1136
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 4: that caused them to transition. And I think it's interesting

1137
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 4: the sense that Maya Angelou, one of my favorites, had

1138
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 4: a quote about similar to Chelsea, when she would go

1139
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 4: on stage, she'd call upon her departed mother, she call

1140
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 4: upon her ancestors, her grandmother, and she said by the

1141
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 4: time she walked on stage, she wasn't walking on that

1142
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 4: stage alone. She came with an army of people who

1143
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 4: loved her. And I think we really are a culmination

1144
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 4: of the love we are given in this world. So

1145
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 4: to be able to harness that, to call upon that

1146
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 4: essence and invoke as Chelsea says, it's such a powerful

1147
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 4: way to still feel that connection even if that physical

1148
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 4: bond is no longer there.

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Speaker 1: Chelsea and I talked about this on a recent epid.

1150
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Speaker 1: So sometimes when you try to push something away, a

1151
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: feeling away, it makes it worse. And so think of

1152
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: your grief as sort of something that you bring along

1153
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: with you. It doesn't mean you can't have joy in

1154
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: your life, it doesn't mean you can't go about your

1155
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: day to day, but that grief is a reminder of

1156
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: the closeness that you shared with those people. And when

1157
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: you feel that sense of grief, be reminded that that

1158
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: person is still with you and that you do still

1159
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: have relationship with them. They're right there. That grief is

1160
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: part of that relationship, and bring it along with you.

1161
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: Feel it when you need to feel it, but also

1162
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: know like it's okay to have that at the same

1163
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: time as you're having maybe a joyful moment or something

1164
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: was funny, or you know, you're living your life day

1165
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: to day. It's okay that that's sort of a passenger

1166
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Speaker 1: with you right now. I actually have a question for you, Tyler.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about like reincarnation. Do you think

1168
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Speaker 1: people can come back?

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Speaker 4: So I don't view reincarnation as a linear process, like

1170
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Speaker 4: a line. So the traditional view is the ring nation

1171
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: is you're born, you die, you're reborn, and you die,

1172
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 4: you're reborn, you die in kind of a line, right,

1173
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Speaker 4: And so my belief is that we as a soul

1174
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 4: are a lot more multifasted than we realize. And in essence,

1175
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Speaker 4: the best way to describe it is, I think we

1176
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 4: basically can exist in many different forms at once. And

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Speaker 4: it looks like we are living our individual little lives

1178
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 4: on our individual little timelines. But my belief is that

1179
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 4: in many ways we kind of have many tentacles in

1180
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 4: many different arenas. And it's very kind of uncomfortable sometimes

1181
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 4: to think about, and it kind of gets into philosophy

1182
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 4: of determinism and all of these things. But I believe

1183
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 4: in a higher self that when we transition we become

1184
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 4: part of something greater than ourselves that has always been

1185
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 4: a part of us, and we kind of reunite with

1186
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: that part, and then part of us might you know,

1187
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 4: continue on in other incarnations, but that kind of soul

1188
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 4: essence of us always exists, and I think is always

1189
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: retaining information. And that is why I believe I do

1190
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 4: readings for people even if they've reincarnated, which maybe they have,

1191
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 4: maybe they haven't. I'm still able to get information about

1192
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 4: that life, who that person was, even if that's continued on.

1193
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Speaker 4: And it's hard to say, you know, it's one of

1194
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 4: those things. It's one of those great mysteries.

1195
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Speaker 1: Well, let's take a quick break and we'll be back

1196
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Speaker 1: for our last question with Tyler and Chelsea.

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Speaker 2: And we're back.

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Speaker 1: We're back. Well, our last question comes from Stephanie Dear Chelsea,

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Speaker 1: longtime listener, first time writer. I've always wanted to say

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Speaker 1: that when it comes to mediums, I must admit that

1201
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Speaker 1: I'm a bit of a skeptic. I'm a nurse practitioner,

1202
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Speaker 1: and so I'm very science minded, but I also greatly

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00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: want to believe that there are forces greater than us

1204
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: that we can't comprehend or measure now to the reason

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Speaker 1: I'm writing. My mom passed away this week. She was

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Speaker 1: an unstoppable force. When I was six, she was shot

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Speaker 1: and paralyzed from the waist down by an accidental gunshot

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Speaker 1: wound by a child. She had severe pain for thirty

1209
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Speaker 1: one years, but never took any pain medication because she

1210
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Speaker 1: wanted to keep her mental capacities sharp. She raised two

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Speaker 1: children as a single mom, became CEO of a large

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Speaker 1: nonprofit organization, sat on two prominent boards in our community,

1213
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Speaker 1: and showed unlimited love to everyone, especially my four and

1214
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: nine year old. As you can tell, she was someone

1215
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 1: really special. I cared for her in her last month,

1216
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: and I wish I knew how to know she was

1217
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: at peace. Tell her we're okay, and that's because she's

1218
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: given us all the tools we need to be okay.

1219
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your show. It's a highlight

1220
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Speaker 1: of my week. So I think the biggest question is

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00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: how does she let her mom know that they're all okay?

1222
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: And how does she know that her mom is okay

1223
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: and that she passed without too much pain.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely Well, you know, I think we often do understandably

1225
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 4: get very focused on what causes someone to transition. Even

1226
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 4: under the best of circumstances. So many of us relived

1227
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 4: those last moments or our last interaction, or what could

1228
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 4: have been said or what could have been done, even

1229
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 4: under the best of circumstance answers. So I think it's

1230
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 4: a very normal place to be in grief, you know.

1231
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Speaker 4: I just think when it comes to that awareness, if

1232
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 4: you look at who she was in life, clearly she

1233
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 4: prioritized her children and the generations of family that came

1234
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Speaker 4: after her. And so I would say, as you revel

1235
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 4: in every moment, as you reach you know, achievements and

1236
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: accomplishments and those big landmark moments, find ways to implement

1237
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 4: her into those moments. What maybe you know, we wear

1238
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 4: a piece of jewelry and every time we look at

1239
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 4: that jewelry we think of mom or whatever it may be.

1240
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 4: There's ways to still carry them on and allow them

1241
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 4: to kind of live vicariously. But you know, I think

1242
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 4: that's one of the great equalizers of death, is that

1243
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 4: in essence, no matter what we're going through, it does

1244
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 4: allow for some closure of physical suffering. And that's just

1245
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 4: a moment in time that's not someone's eternity exactly.

1246
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to know that people who have crossed

1247
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 3: over are at peace, like you're not in your body anymore,

1248
00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: so there's no bodily suffering. And I would it would

1249
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 3: be a big leap of faith to think that they're

1250
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: suffering beyond this earth, you know what I mean. This

1251
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 3: earth I think has so much suffering already. I mean,

1252
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: what you're talking about is you're suffering, you know, at

1253
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: the loss of your mom. But I when people wreck

1254
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 3: themselves over the circumstances in which somebody passed, like, oh,

1255
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 3: they were in such pain it was, even when it's

1256
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 3: a hard crossing, as they say, at least they're not

1257
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 3: suffering anymore. Like that's what's necessary to get them out

1258
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 3: of their body and to stop the suffering. So you

1259
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 3: have to believe that your mother is at peace, regardless

1260
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 3: of how she died, She's at peace now, you know.

1261
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think you just have to believe that,

1262
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,959
Speaker 3: and you have to know that and just keep telling

1263
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: yourself that and keep showing her, you know, in the

1264
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 3: ways that Tyler suggested, to keep living your life with her.

1265
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 3: You know, not that it's over, she's gone, but your

1266
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 3: relationship with her will never be over.

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Speaker 4: And you know, just last point with the nursing aspects,

1268
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 4: there's so many hospice nurses that have shared firsthand experiences

1269
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 4: of you know, their own grief and also seeing you know,

1270
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Speaker 4: patients at the end of life have very compelling experiences.

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Speaker 4: So I would encourage it.

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Speaker 2: Ask coworkers, Yeah, tell us about your tour, Tyler, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so very much.

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Speaker 4: Hitting the road been very busy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen it on Instagram. You're on fire.

1276
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 4: Oh, it's been so so much fun. I've been really thankful.

1277
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Speaker 4: We've had a sold out tour all across the country

1278
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Speaker 4: and it's been intense. Every year of twenty six cities,

1279
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Speaker 4: I travel all across Midwest to the South, and it's

1280
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Speaker 4: in a group setting, so it's anywhere from two thousand

1281
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 4: to three thousand people. I share a little bit about

1282
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 4: my story and what people need to know to get

1283
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 4: the most out of readings, and then it turns into

1284
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 4: a group reading and it's different every single time. You know,

1285
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 4: people come in as strangers and by the end of it,

1286
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 4: they're hugging and it's just a really beautiful experience to

1287
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 4: be able to have that outlet in a society that

1288
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 4: doesn't allow for people to talk about grief. Very much

1289
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 4: to have people come together and feel comfortable honoring that

1290
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 4: vulnerability and what they've gotten through in a shared way.

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Speaker 2: Great, and people can get tickets at over at.

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Speaker 4: Tyler Henry Hollywood medium dot com. You can check out

1293
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Speaker 4: tickets and my full tours get and there's more to come.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, that's so excellent. You're doing such a great service.

1295
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 3: How nice is it to do what you love and

1296
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: have it be so helpful to people?

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00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: Right?

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00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 4: I feel so privileged and so humbled every single time.

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Speaker 4: I mean it truly is mind blowing, and it just

1300
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 4: reminds me of why we have to live mindfully and

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Speaker 4: it gives me a deep sense of gratitude and ever

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Speaker 4: reading I do, I think there's a message for me

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Speaker 4: as well. Well.

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Speaker 2: Was a pleasure speaking with you. I hope I get

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Speaker 2: to see you again soon.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And if you need anything, either of you, if

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Speaker 4: I can help in any capacity, if you have any

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Speaker 4: follow up readings, friend's family, I'm here and I would

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Speaker 4: love to stay in touch.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, We.

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Speaker 4: Have a good one.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Bye bye.

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