1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm notlcome to stuff. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: I never told you. Protection of iHeart Radio and Welcome 3 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: to are very very special. Not sponsored by HBO or 4 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: the Last of Us the Last of Us mini series. 5 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: It is something that I am enjoying so much. I 6 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: was telling Samantha the other day, It's like, not, I 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: don't even think of it as work. I'm just like, 8 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: I can't wait to do this. You can get so 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: excited I do. I do. As we said, this is 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: going to replace my happy hours. Um, we're going to 11 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: do one kind of an aftershow review a week after 12 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: the current episode of The Last US TV Show, which 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: is yes on HBO Max. So you have a week, 14 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: you have a week before it comes out. But we 15 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: will be spoiling the first three episodes. And I'm going 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: to say, because I sent you that I've been sending 17 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: you just random headlines about the last episs, I read 18 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: that the purchases of the first game is up. I 19 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: will say, if you don't want to be spoiled in 20 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: the game, this is the biggest divergence from the game. 21 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: And we are going to talk about weapons in the 22 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: game and why it's different. So that's about the five 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: to seven hour mark in the game. But today we 24 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: are talking about episode three, which was the one I 25 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: was so so excited about a long long time. I 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: believe it's called so Good. But yeah, this is a 27 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: March nineteenth. I think it's the last one. It's a 28 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: temporary thing, um, but it is very much enjoyed. And 29 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on this journey and letting me 30 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: do it. Uh So, any I do have to burst 31 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: your bubble in that. I know that we were really 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: saying that you should have been the one to do 33 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: the HBO podcast, but did you know it was actually 34 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: the voice of Joel that hosts the podcast. I have 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: been informed. Yes, I'm sorry. So although you are a 36 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: close second, thank you. Okay, Okay, So I don't I 37 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: don't want you to get upset with me, but yeah, 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: it makes sense that he would be the one to 39 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: host the podcast with the creators Neil and I'm calling 40 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: them Deal and Craig like that are my friends. Yeah, yeah, 41 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: and we have talked about this before. Where Um, if 42 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: I was a voice actor in the game, I'm not 43 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: gonna lie. I would be I don't know it hurt, 44 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: I'd be sad. That I wasn't like in the show, 45 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: and sometimes it makes sense and sometimes but we get 46 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: like Marlene, it's the same voice actor, which is very 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: very cool, and the clickers, so that is awesome. But 48 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: I guess I'll let Troy Baker. Yes, I don't know. 49 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: I well, like I was like, oh that makes okay, Well, okay, 50 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: that makes sense. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to you, but yes, 51 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: but again you are a close second. Alright. So yes, 52 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: Peter Whore is the director of this episode a long 53 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: long time and Linda Ronstat's music apparently is going up 54 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: right now. My partner has been listening to depeche Mode though, 55 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: so that is also throw out to that. Um. But yeah, 56 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: let's do a recap. You're ready for it, any you're 57 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: gonna cry? Yeah, Actually, before we do the recap, let 58 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: me do this warning. This is rated a E because 59 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: any it's gonna be emotional. Yeah, so there's gonna be 60 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: a lot of emotions here from Annie so just and 61 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: me too, but more so you. But yeah, so go 62 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: ahead and get that rating as well as I need 63 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: to take a big deep breath with me. Annie. Okay, okay, 64 00:03:53,280 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: we're there, let's begin. Let's do it. Here we have 65 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: just lost Tests. In episode two, the both Ellie and 66 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: Joel are trying to regroup, eating a little food. Her 67 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: first speech to him kind of his look, you made 68 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: a choice. You and Test knew the dangers. No one 69 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: forced you. You wanted the battery, and this is what 70 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: it took, so please stop blaming me. So she kind 71 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: of just go ahead and says that. He's very quiet, 72 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: doesn't say much. So they travel because they are supposed 73 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: to get to bills. They that was the instructions from Tests. 74 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: As we are traveling, we come up on many sites, 75 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: a crash plane, the bodies of people who were murdered 76 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: because there was not enough room for them at the 77 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: q z UM. And there's a lot of conversation happening 78 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: in between this, so she's getting a lot of detail 79 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: from things, including how it first began. So we do 80 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: get that the rice and flower possibly it's spread and 81 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: then they started biting. So we get all of that 82 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: information and then we have a flashback. We love a 83 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: good flashback. In the flashback, we see the clothing of 84 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: two murdered victims and they're alive and well as a 85 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 1: mom and a baby who are being driven off from 86 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: a neighborhood. What is it Bedford? Bedford? Yeah, Bedford, um, 87 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: in which they are being transported. Next thing we see 88 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: is nick Offerman, who was playing Bill all I guess, 89 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: in his bunker with his gun ready to go because 90 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: he was not going to be taken. What was this line? 91 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: Not today New World Order? Jack boot? There you go, 92 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: that's the line. And here we see Daddy nick Offerman. 93 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: I did call him Daddy because like I was like, 94 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 1: look what, Yes, we see Daddy nick Offerman slash Bill 95 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: hiding in this bunker. After everybody leaves, he comes out gleefully, 96 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: y'all gleefully. And also there was a lot of wine. 97 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: I still don't understand why they didn't take the wine. 98 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: There's so much wine there. But I digress, and he 99 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: gleefully goes in, gives his truck, puts his boat on 100 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: his truck to show, takes out the seats, goes to 101 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: the hardware stores, go to the drug stores, goes to 102 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: all the places and loads up. He then puts the 103 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,119 Speaker 1: trap so that people can't come get him, and none 104 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: of the clickers and zombies can come get him. As 105 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: in fact, and one of the scenes we see a 106 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: clicker trying to get close and he gets shot in 107 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: the head. Like Bills enjoying a fancy meal and wine 108 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: with his giant generator that he has surveillance for everywhere. Uh, 109 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: he is enjoying his good mill, enjoying his wine, having 110 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: a final time. Oh no, something comes into a trap 111 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: and he comes out. I was like, oh god, what 112 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: am I gonna do? And he points a gun. He 113 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: yells and here's this person in a in a ditch 114 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: essentially his his little trap. After verifying that he wasn't infected, 115 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: he helps them out. Of course, He's like, you know, 116 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: you need to move on your way, and I did like, look, 117 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm really hungry. I haven't eaten in two days. I'm Frank, 118 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: please give me the food. And he's like, dude, this 119 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: is not an Arby's. You can't get free food. The 120 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: response was you had to pay at Arby's, obviously, ha 121 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: ha joke, joke joke. Did he kind of like, you 122 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: know what, okay, okay, you can come in. We can 123 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: do things, dude. The stranger Frank takes a shower, very 124 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: long shower, which I went to to be honest. Um 125 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: comes out dressed and he was like, you know if 126 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: you had a meal. Okay, we'll get you a meal. 127 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: Oh and between all this, of course they'll get some 128 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: some extra clothes. Super nice, super nice. And they have 129 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: a meal, a lovely meal with Bogoli wine, which that 130 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: that brand's gonna skyrocket. I bet um as well as 131 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: cooked rabbit, correct is it? Rabbit? Delicious? Meal has the 132 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: best meal. Frank is hesitating. Try He's like, you know, 133 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: i'll go, but let me look. You've got a piano, 134 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: let me go play on your piano. Plays the Linda 135 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: Ronstad song badly. Yes, And then of course Bill comes 136 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: and shows him up a little bit, does the thing. 137 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: And the question is what girl were you thinking of? 138 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: And he says there's no girl, and Frank says, I know. 139 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: Kiss magic happens. And then they're like, let's go upstairs, 140 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: take you off your clothes. Literally he says that to him. 141 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: And then the question is you know, have you ever 142 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: been and he's like, no, only a girl a long 143 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: time ago, and it's like, I'll take care of you. 144 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: Other favorite line is, you know I'm not a whore. 145 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: I don't sleep with every man that makes me lunch, 146 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: not even a good lunch, not even a good lunch. 147 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: So you know there's that. Uh, we move on. They 148 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: are a beautiful couple. There's a lot of ups and downs. 149 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: We see them coming together. He's like, I need more people, 150 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: I need company. I need to make this a happy place. 151 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to go fix this this and the boutique 152 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: and you need to let me. And he was like, 153 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: and also, we're gonna have company, and he's like what. 154 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: He's like, I've been talking to a lovely woman. He's like, 155 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: what on the radio? And eat and we have tests 156 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: and Joel coming in. They're having a love lovely alfresco 157 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: dinner or lunch. As they are sitting there, of course, 158 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: Bill is pointing a gun at Joel the entire time, 159 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: rightly so, while Tess and Frank a gallivant off to 160 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: show the house do do um. After that, they've become 161 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: a fixture in their lives there. I'm gonna put quote friends. 162 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: Frank's their friend. Bill is just there and so is Joel. 163 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: Essentially um, but they do have a deal going on 164 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: where they do trade back and forth and all these 165 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: things moving on. We see and Joel warns them. So 166 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: this was one of those moments that the director and 167 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: the writers tricked us again. This is gonna be the 168 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: end because Joel Warrensen, there's there's raiders coming through. You're 169 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna need protection, and we can help you all these things, 170 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: and and Bills like, I got this all of a sudden. 171 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: Next thing we know, we hear fire and gunshots and 172 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: all these things, and there are raiders coming through, and 173 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: the government's in the middle of the street, not behind anything, 174 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: just shooting away. Brake comes down to assist with a gun. 175 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: I think he kind of distracts Bill. Bill gets shot, 176 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: and then we're watching all the other ones getting burned 177 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: up and fired up and all those and blown up 178 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: because all of the rigs. And then Frank carries Bill in. 179 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: Bill tells him all these dying things, you need to 180 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: take care of this there and there's take care of this. 181 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: And then we see Frank he's got I got you. 182 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm taking care of you. Thinking he's a part of 183 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: the medical field because he seems to know a lot 184 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: of things. And then we flash forward to someone in 185 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: the wheelchair. My mag extumption was Bill, but it isn't. 186 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: It's Frank. Frank's in a wheelchair and it is twenty 187 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: years later. I guess so it starts out. Two three 188 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: is when we have the first him hiding in the 189 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: in the bunker. Two thousand seven is when Frank shows 190 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: up back now and Frank's in a wheelchair. We find 191 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: out Frank's sick. He needs a lot of help. He 192 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: doesn't feel good. But Bill is taking care of them. 193 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: They're doing such great things. He puts them to bed. 194 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: They wake up the next day and Bill Frank is 195 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: sitting in the wheelchair and Bills like, what did you do? 196 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna help you, and Frank says, you know, 197 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: it took me all night to do this, but I 198 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: got here. And then he says today is my last day, 199 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: and they He comes up with a whole whole plan 200 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: about how he suffering. There's nothing they can do. There's 201 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: no doctors. Even though Bills like, maybe we can find one. 202 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: All these things, He's like, no, you know, I've had 203 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: a lot of good days. I've had a lot of 204 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: bad days, and they were with you, but I've had 205 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: a lot more good days. And I would like this 206 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: to be a good day. Annis you're about to cry. 207 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: I'd like to see a good day. And he rattles 208 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: off all the things that would be a good day, uh, 209 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: including him them dressing up, them getting married, and them 210 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: having a final dinner with him crushing up all the 211 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: pills in the wine so that Frank could take it 212 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: where he can go and die in Bill's arms for 213 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: the last time. So all these things, Oh, I forgot 214 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: the strawberry part because this is like we need the 215 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: strawberry part were during the middle of before all this, Uh, 216 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: Joel trades things with trades for a gun, apparently a 217 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: small gun, so says Frank's for seeds for strawberries, and 218 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: we have the cutest giggling moment which was very run 219 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: Swanson like I will say, but it was very cute 220 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: of them enjoying something they hadn't had in so long 221 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: that they grew. It was a beautiful scene. I believe 222 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: that scene has become a meme for many people. Feel 223 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: like and this is sadness and happiness all at the 224 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: same time. But and then we're back to them doing 225 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: the marrish, looking handsome together, eating the last meal which 226 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: was as the same as the first meal, with the 227 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: same wine, beautifully done, and he crushes up this amount 228 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: of pills dumps it into uh Frank's wine. Frank gulps 229 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: it down. Frank looks at Bill. Bill gulps his wine down, 230 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: which clicks, oh, you already put some pills in the street, 231 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: and he's like how much? He said enough to kill 232 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: a horse? Um, And he's like, I don't want to 233 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: be here without you. I've lived my best days with you. 234 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: This is enough. So the next thing we know, they 235 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: go off to bed insane. Next week come back to 236 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: seeing Joel and Ellie arrive at the fence. He knows 237 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: something wrong because there's nothing going off, so he goes 238 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: gets the code, goes in and uh, they can't find them. 239 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: He goes to the door to open it, but it's stuck. 240 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: And then Ellie finds the note, a note in which 241 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: is so Bill talking about how I don't like you, 242 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: but I know you. Who finds this because anybody else 243 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: would have been blown up? He Ellie meeting that part 244 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: of my favorite thing. And then he also gets this 245 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: auctions to take care of the ones he loves, take 246 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: care of tests, which is nice to the heart. Yeah, 247 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: and then at the end he was like, hey, we're 248 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: in the bedroom. I left the window open, don't come in, 249 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: leave us alone. Take whatever you need. Good luck. Essentially, 250 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: and uh yeah. So they go through get things, get 251 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: the shower for the first time. Here we see Ellie's 252 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: signature shirt from the video game and see Joel wearing 253 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: the shirt that was given to Frank the first day 254 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: he was there. Yeah, and then they take the car, 255 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: they get the battery, and they move on their way 256 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: with lindauched with Linda Ron start playing in the back 257 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: in the truck. Yeah. Yeah. So Joel has decided, like 258 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: after ever he read the letter I'm trying to find 259 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: my brother Jimmy, you st work with the fireflies, I 260 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: will take you with me. Ellie, I will take you 261 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: with me because they're trying to get hurt of the fireflies. 262 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: And uh, I think reading that letter, he was like, okay, yeah, yes, 263 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: I guess I'll try to. There was another scene we 264 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: see Ellie kind of coming in our own where she 265 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: goes down finds tampons, which I did appreciate that citat. 266 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, and she looks like she's hit 267 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: the jackpot with those box of tampons, which that's where 268 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: she kind of runs into the clicker that's been buried 269 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: underneath a rubble and she stabs him in the face. 270 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: After having a very like contemplative morbid curiosity. Yeah, man, 271 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: which we are going to talk about that once again. 272 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: Excellent recamp, Samantha, thank you you did get tears flowing. 273 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: A gonna talk about that. As we said, we um, 274 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: we watched these together. We're probably gonna watch all of 275 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: them together. Yeah, I'm sorry. I regret that I didn't 276 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: do it before and after shot off Anny. I really 277 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: should have. I might do that for episode five just 278 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: but I will do it before and after. It wasn't 279 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: good everyone, I mean it was, it was lovely. I 280 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: love this kind of stuff. I love I'm somebody who 281 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: get I get a lot of Catharsis out of this 282 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: kind of thing. I know. It doesn't do that for everybody. 283 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: In fact, I've had at least four people now it's 284 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: gone up like why are you doing this to me? 285 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's not my fault, right, um, And 286 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: I know we're gonna talk more about this, but this 287 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: is definitely a variation. And as someone who was just 288 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: the watcher, this was so much more impactful and beautifully done. 289 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: And the way they wrote the script was a love 290 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: letter and it was gorgeous. Yeah, and it's been really 291 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: like it's sad and it's been cool at the same 292 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: time to how many people are writing up at it 293 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: and how much like they cried and how how moved 294 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: they were by it. Um, and I should say, we 295 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: had a lovely meal steak sandwich which is from the game, Um, 296 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: smashed potatoes, Russells and me and one of my other 297 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: good friends, Katie has been on the show. We're sitting 298 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: on office side of the couch and I think I 299 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: could just hear like sniffling from her sniffling me and 300 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: I cried so hard that the next day I stayed 301 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: over at Samantha's. The next day I came down, my 302 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: face was so swollen. I did not see her right 303 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: in front of me, in front of me. I was like, 304 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: I saw something. I was like, my face is still 305 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: a little Yes, we recorded yesterday as well, and you 306 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: were like, I just stopped trying, essentially, and then I 307 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: left and watching it a good and crying and started trying. Yeah. Um, 308 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: And I knew I'd read a bunch of things. I 309 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: think I've been teasing it and I knew this one 310 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: was going to be a a real heartbreaker. I did 311 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: want to talk about like the biggest thing obviously with 312 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: this one is the departure from the game and is 313 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: the story of Bill and Frank. So here's the part 314 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: we I'm gonna talk about what happens in the game 315 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: if you really don't want to know, it is different. 316 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: Um So, it's also really easy to miss, as I said, 317 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: so honestly, you'd probably be fine. But so in the game, 318 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: um you need the car battery and you go to 319 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: what's called um Bill's town because he's just booby trapped. 320 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: Everything just everything is booby trapped, and he lives there 321 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: by himself, and he's more like TESSAs friend, but it's 322 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: still a very like transactional what supplies can we get 323 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: each other? And come to find out via reading notes 324 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: Frank is his romantic partner, and Frank has killed himself 325 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: to get away from Bill, or that's not what the 326 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: note says. It's like, I can't take one more day 327 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: with you. I would rather be dead than living next 328 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: to a miserable person like him. And it's like, like 329 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: I said, you can miss it. You could literally bypass 330 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: most of this. Um So, it's like a really dark story, 331 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: and I get what they were trying to do they're 332 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: trying to tell you, like, well, who who is surviving 333 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: this and what does it take to survive it? And 334 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like the quote heavy quote like good 335 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: people are surviving. It seems like kind of these like 336 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: really miserable that's what it takes to survive in this world. 337 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: And Frank has has killed himself. And they don't even 338 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: say like outright that their partners, but it's very clearly implied. Yeah, 339 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: so that story is very subtle. Um, I will say, 340 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: like there are moments in the show where we think 341 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: that's going to happen. So when he runs out the 342 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: door arguing like, yeah, miserable doing this, I can't do 343 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: it like you you need to let me do me 344 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: to be happy. So they did this. The writers did 345 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: this on purpose too much with us, I know, because 346 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, well, I'm going to talk 347 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: about that in a second, because there's a couple of 348 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: reasons why I love what they did so much better 349 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: in the show, and some of them have been really 350 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: poignantly written about. Because a lot of people have already 351 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: written about this, I did want to say. I read 352 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: an interesting article from the creator about like the importance 353 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: of not only hiring since Murray Bartlett played played Frank, 354 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: who is a gay man, but he also hired like 355 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: a queer like camera people, middle aged queer camera people, 356 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: and like the in the story and that the director 357 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: was so it was like diversity and like multiple levels. 358 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't just Um the actor. And we talked about 359 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: that with Nick Offerman in it, who I also read 360 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: a lot of interviews with him and about how seriously 361 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: he took this and how he knew, like everyone working 362 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: on this new like this is a huge deal and 363 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: we can't mess it up because you don't see this 364 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: that often on television. You don't see it in action 365 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: and horror and video game world, like right, you don't 366 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: see this, and you don't see it played out as 367 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: a genuine love story. You see it being kitchy or 368 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: comical or dramatic. But this was just genuine sweet love 369 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: like kindness. Yeah. Yeah, And that's one of the things 370 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: that I was immediately when they first meet. I was like, oh, 371 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: like because it Um Frank is Bill is very much 372 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: He even says like the survivalist. He has this kind 373 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: of like outward persona where we talked about afterwards, like 374 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: was it internalized homophobia. Was it the like Apocalypse made 375 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: him feel like, Oh I can be myself or do 376 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: this um or whatever it is. But that scene where 377 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: he's irving like this very lovely meal and then he 378 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: brings out the wine and he's like, I know, I 379 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: don't see like the type, and Frank just says so sincerely, like, 380 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: oh no, yeah you do. It was just like a 381 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: really lovely like because there's so many stereotypes and tropes 382 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: in there that really shouldn't be there, but they are, 383 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: and so it was just such a nice like. And 384 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: then you get to see Bill playing the piano and 385 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 1: he's singing this song, very like moving emotional song, and 386 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: he's a masculine dude like Nick Offerman, even his outside 387 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: persona is a very masculine dude. I mean, I love 388 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: the names. That's just pretty much him as Ron Swanson 389 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: being placed with the lines from the Last of Us Again. 390 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: You and I talked about and my partner and I 391 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: talked about that. At first, I was concerned. I was like, 392 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: why is Nick Afferman, who is very openly uh in 393 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: a relationship with Mega mallally, so like it's seem kind 394 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: of like, you know this seems kind of could they 395 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: have done this wrong? But the conversation is it is 396 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: a very masculine dude who has never been able to 397 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: face his own self, UM, which is why he's like, 398 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: I've never done this, I've never been that, but discovering 399 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: that person with him. And it's also this conversation and 400 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: I read that recently an interview with the director UM 401 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: where he said, it's this conversation of maybe he's not 402 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: even necessarily gay, but he was in love with Frank. 403 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 1: It was the person that was it, Frank. He found 404 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: the one he loved and it was Frank. It's not 405 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: about sexuality discovering that. It was that And I don't 406 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: want to take away from that, but like the truth 407 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: of the matter is, this is a conversation I've had 408 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: with you about like I identify as heterosexual. That's never 409 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: been a thing. I've never been with a woman. I've 410 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: never been really attracted to a woman. But at the 411 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: same time, I do love people. So there could be 412 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: this conversation of like, if I met someone else and 413 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: they happened to be identifying as a woman or as 414 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: non binary or what, that doesn't matter. I would be 415 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: in love with that person, and that's that whole spectrum 416 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: of sexuality that we've been talking about that it doesn't 417 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,239 Speaker 1: really need I get labels, and it's good to have 418 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: labels if you need that and understanding who you are. 419 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: But it could be as simple as I love this 420 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: person and he loved Frank with all his heart and 421 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: he did not know love like that until he met Frank, 422 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: and that could win the story and not necessarily anything 423 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: else being the byeline. And of course Nick Offerman understands 424 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: that love. Mm hmm. Yeah. It's been a lot of 425 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: interesting conversations and things written about it because I remember 426 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: the first time I played the second one and no spoilers, 427 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: I promised, but the second one has queer storylines as well, 428 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 1: and they were still they're still homophobia, and I remember 429 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: being so disappointed. It's not like those things go away 430 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: right like. But I was like, there's zombies, the world 431 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: is ending, and you're still doing this. So there I read. 432 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: I read an article with the creator to where he 433 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: was like, what would it be, you know, in the 434 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: in the world after this, would we still hold onto 435 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: those things or would we not? And I do love 436 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: like that scene where they're fighting again as Samantha said, 437 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: it really was setting you up, like, oh, it's coming, 438 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: it's coming. But it was such like a sweet they're 439 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: different people, but he did kind of he was like okay, 440 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: he wasn't happy about it, but he's like, all right, 441 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: what you want to pay, we'll have the dinner party. 442 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: It was it was a little bit of comic relief. Um. 443 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: So this was a quote from the interview from Inverse 444 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: with Peter Whore. He says, and he's talking about Nick 445 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: Offerman playing this character and why Bill was so complicated. 446 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: He says, he was never going to naturally discover who 447 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: he was to fall in love with or who we 448 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: found attractive until Frank came along. And even then it 449 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: wasn't just about being a man. It was because he 450 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: was Frank. It was because Frank is Frank. I felt 451 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: like it was about making sure to keep reminding them 452 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: all of that. And he goes, it's not as complicated 453 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: perhaps as it sounds, is about heart and love and truth, 454 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: and I love that. And I was like, yeah, oh god, yeah, 455 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: this makes to me. Yes, And also like going back 456 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: to you, these like tropes we see, these stereotypes, we 457 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: see not just with career characters which just was like 458 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: men and a man like Nicoperman slash Bill. I think 459 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: that scene where Frank kind of takes over and it's like, 460 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: I sais your first time like being very like kind 461 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: and careful and very consentual, you know, like hey, and 462 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: and having because in our society it's like men. Of 463 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: course you manly man. You've had so much sex and 464 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: that's your conquest with women and that's how you. But 465 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: he just said kind of like no one time with 466 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: the girl, and I don't know, there was something about 467 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: that that was nice too. It was sort of a 468 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: refreshing change on that and I liked that Frank kind 469 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: of it's like, okay, well we'll start with the simple 470 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: things and we'll figure it out. Like it was just 471 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: very sweet. What Yeah, So we're kind of moving into 472 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: the territory I want to talk about where why I 473 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: think it was so much better that they did it 474 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: this way than how they did in the game. One 475 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: is because there are a couple of tropes here that 476 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: are kind of immediately concerning because they've been handled so 477 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: badly before. And one is, you know, with queer love 478 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: stories of the last time they do die, and that 479 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: is what happened to you. But it wasn't like a 480 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: tragic Oh we never knew these people and they got 481 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: killed off. It was like finding joy. It was seeing 482 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: the life that they lived, which was quite a long 483 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: life that they lived together and finding joy and finding 484 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: purpose in each other in this apocalypse. And I was 485 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: telling you, like, I've made this outline of how I 486 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: think every episode the show is going to go, and 487 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: it's so grim every I'm like, Oha, how are they 488 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: going to do this? So it was such a nice 489 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: thing to see, like finding that humanity and finding that 490 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: connection and finding that love in the context of this 491 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: um zombie apocalypse. Well that's the thing is, like they 492 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: didn't die, they didn't get killed off violently, they didn't 493 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: go through and and try to save someone, or they 494 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: weren't murdered by because of who they were. None of 495 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: that happened. They grew older together and they decided to 496 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: go out together and talking about how happy their days were, 497 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: how some of the days were bad and they were 498 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: all worth it with each other. And later also like 499 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: the whole ending of him like I want you to 500 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: hold me for the last time, that was such a 501 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: moment because that they grew into this loving relationship and 502 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: it was loving, like everything they had was about love, 503 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: and even that being just them, they were content. Yeah. 504 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: Well and they did really good job of that too, 505 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: because you could tell like they were different people. They 506 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: were very different people. Um, And they had fights and 507 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: disagreements and the days weren't easy. Um. But that was 508 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: something else that I really liked was when oh, no, 509 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm getting to your eye. Even when he says, like 510 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: Bill says at the end, like I'm satisfied. It's not 511 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: that they like like all my lives are so our 512 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: lives are so miserable. Let's just ended. It's like, well, 513 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: we had a lot of good days together. I want 514 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: to go with you. Oh right, and she's crying. All 515 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: is happening. Um, And I do love that way they 516 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: closed out. I didn't talk about this. They closed out 517 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: the scene with an ode to the video game, which 518 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: is where you start to say play or not start 519 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: is a window open with bris. They intentionally did that 520 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: at the end as an ode to the game. Yes, 521 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: oh my god. Yes, But I also liked that that 522 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: you never see their bodies, it's not Yeah, I really 523 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: liked that because we've talked about that with able is 524 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: m and kind of that whole you know, oh, I'm 525 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: in a wheelchair. I'd rather be dead. It didn't give 526 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: me that vibe at all. It just kind of gave 527 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: me like, you know, I'm happy and it's it's not 528 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: gonna write. And I think the biggest part of that 529 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: is that he had pain. Um. He had so much pain, 530 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: and that was kind of that conversation is like I'm 531 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: all I'm doing is hurting UM. And of course, yeah, 532 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: there's always a conversation about able is UM, but also 533 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: free will and free choice. There's so much to that 534 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: um in the conversation UM. But he had found joy 535 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: for the longest time up until the point that he 536 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: couldn't handle the pain. And I think he think in 537 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: sinuated he's been in a wheelchair for a minute. Yeah. Yeah. 538 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: And it was so nice, like they didn't just show 539 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: the sad time like that scene with the strawberry. Oh 540 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: my god, oh god. It was like such a joyful 541 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: thing that they shared to the giggle on the joy 542 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: and the fact that Frank hid that for a while. 543 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: That because it takes like a good six months to 544 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: grow like that size. It looked really good though. I 545 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: will say that it did oh my gosh. And then 546 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: I I did want to say that this will probably 547 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: be my like ominous hint of the of the episode 548 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: because they have those kind of behind the scenes things 549 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 1: at the end of you know what was going on 550 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: in this when they were making it and creating it. 551 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: And one of the things I think Neil Jackman, who 552 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: made the video game said was like where love can 553 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: take you? And so I think this was like a 554 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: happy example, whereas in the game it wasn't, but in 555 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: this it was a happy example. But I would yeah, 556 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: I would say that's a very good outline for this 557 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: whole show is where love can take you, and that 558 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: can be very bad and that can be very good, 559 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: and it can be in between a lot um. There 560 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: is definitely the comparison to Joel with the note where 561 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: he's talking about like protect tests, I gotta protect Frank. 562 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: He says, men like us protect and then he's wearing 563 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: the shirt. It's a lot of comparison of like, well, 564 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: what will Joel, Where will love take Joel? So I'll 565 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: leave that there, and then I yeah, we need to 566 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: briefly touch on Ellie. I think, of course, because this 567 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: was uh we're we're somebath that I were talking about this. 568 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't think this is a big departure, but she's 569 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: definitely um. She's a little like Harsher is too strong, 570 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: but like a Rougher edged. For the beginning of the game, 571 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: she's Bella Ramsey's portrayaled her is edged and so like 572 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: this seemer. She kills the zombie, which she doesn't tell 573 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: Joel about. She stole the gun, doesn't tell Joel about it. 574 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 1: She I like how they did. Really, they're already planting 575 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: the seeds. That she's very insecure and how she's going 576 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: to survive in this world because she kept asking like, well, 577 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: what if Bill and francart there? What if Bill and 578 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: franc won't take me? Which is I mean, yeah, it 579 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: would be terrifying. What is going to happen to me? 580 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: Are you just going to leave me if they're not there? Uh? 581 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: And we also at the same time see Joel trying 582 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: to protect Ellie's innocence, where he's like, no, we should 583 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: will take the longer way. I don't want you to 584 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: go that way because you'll see something you don't want 585 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: to see. And that's where the man scrape site is. 586 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: Whereas Ellie immediately it is like, well, now I have 587 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: to go see it. And I think that's the dichotomy 588 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: of he grew up in this time where he remembers 589 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: like his daughter Sarah, and he remembers like that kind 590 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: of protecting level of children. Ellie has never really known 591 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: that she's just growing up in a zombie apocalypse worlds 592 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: or that sort of part of her life, and so 593 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: I think that's sort of a push and pull between 594 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: them of him really wanting to protect what he views 595 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: is like her childish innocence and her being really really 596 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: frustrated because she's like that this is the world we're living. 597 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah when we were talking about it, like 598 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: the way I interpreted, both of them are a little 599 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: different as where the Ellie in the game to me 600 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: was more willing to go with everything. Joel said a 601 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: little few definitely a lot of questions, but it was like, Okay, 602 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: didn't push too hard. The Bella ramsay, Ellie, she does 603 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: that too. She pushes, she pushes, but then she knows 604 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: when the stop was he makes the face um and 605 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: she backs off. But like the whole killing of the zombie, 606 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: the moment that as the director was saying was like, 607 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, from episode two, episode one, she is intrigued 608 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: by him beating the hell out of that guard and 609 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: not disgusted, which was the opposite reaction to Sarah from 610 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: Sarah who was like of horrified to see that she 611 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: had killed that monster who was a neighbor. But like, 612 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: the differences are pretty pretty stark. Again, this has to 613 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: do that, Yes, Ellie has been alone, She's seen some 614 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 1: essentially um and she's just waiting her turn to die. 615 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: It seems um, So that makes sense to that. But yeah, 616 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: there's a small difference in the attitudes on how Ashley Johnson, 617 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: the voice of the original Ellie portrayed it versus what 618 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: Bella rams He's doing with this role. But again, Bella Ramsy, 619 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: her whole persona is a little bit tougher. We saw 620 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: that with the Game of Thrones, like she was intense, 621 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: and this does fit that as survival mode. Yeah, well, 622 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: I also think it's interesting because we did talk about 623 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: this too. Like I said, I think Ashley Johnson just 624 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 1: kind of has a her voice and her the way 625 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: she approached it in the game, which is kind of softer. 626 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 1: She's still like she curses like a sailor. I would 627 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: never miss with her, but she I think the way 628 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: they did it was much more And we're depending on 629 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: Ellie four these rare, bright moments of happies, which does 630 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: still happen because she'll still be like, oh wow, I've 631 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: never been in the woods while I've never done this 632 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: in this and sort of that child like wonder. But 633 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: I think also because we know, because you and I 634 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: the insiders, know what happens in the second one and 635 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: how it ends. The first one ends, I feel, oh no, 636 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 1: another ominous hint. I feel like they're they're kind of 637 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: planting other seats. Well now, the director said that behind 638 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: the scenes, like you, you're you're seeing something different for 639 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: a reason outside of just her environment currently that that 640 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: definitely is the whole thing, and it only grows. I mean, 641 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: in that environment, can you be eating more than kellis? Though? 642 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: And that's the question, that's a question. Um, where does 643 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: love take Ellie? This is your this is like your 644 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: hypothesis for every episode, be like, where does love go 645 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: in this one? Oh gosh? And I also told Samantha, 646 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: I think I've said this in previous ones. I do 647 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: have like a kind of overarching I'm a sacretique, but 648 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: some critique, but like thoughts about these tropes, I'm saving 649 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: them for the last one because I think like even 650 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: just talking about them without spoiling them is spoiling them, 651 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. So just know that that is coming. 652 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: And a lot of stuff with Ellie's characters sort of 653 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: tricky to talk about. But she does have the scene 654 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: in the game as well where Joel puts in this 655 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: music and it's like, oh, that's so good, and she's 656 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 1: like whatever, but then they bond over the they bond 657 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: of the music so that you can see the bonding 658 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 1: is happenings, it is beginning. I did want to mention 659 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: the awkward dinner party. There is that awkward dinner party 660 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: between Ole and Tests and Bill and Frank and I 661 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: loved it because it was so awkward. It was so 662 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: good a frankling Bill really, yes. And the lowering of 663 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: the gun yes, well, we were talking about it too. 664 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: It's so funny how like a lot of times couples 665 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: do kind of not always they'll they'll kind of follow 666 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: along those lines. And we've got the one that's like, oh, 667 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: I do not want to be here, and the other 668 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: ones like I want friends test is sort of that version, 669 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: and then Francs for that version. I like seeing them 670 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: kind of bond, right, I did. I love that. I've 671 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: always been meaning to mention. This is largely based on 672 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: a book called The World Without Us, which is um 673 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: a book is about what would happen if humanity just disappeared. 674 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: So a lot of the like imagery and all that 675 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: stuff comes from that. There is a documentary about the 676 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: game and how the game is made, and it's awesome. 677 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: Obviously wait till you finished the show if you don't 678 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: want to be surprised, but it's really cool. It's got 679 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: a fun alternate ending. And then just to say yeah, 680 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,720 Speaker 1: like the response after this one has been like hugely positive, 681 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: but just so many people, especially in the queer space, 682 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: like you know, I haven't seen this or it's just 683 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: especially as I said, in this sort of like action 684 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: horror video game realm. So that's why I'm glad they 685 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: did it this way as opposed to oh you just 686 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: bring stead body, This is so much better. Yes, agreed, Agreed, 687 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: I was wrong in my next week predictions. I was 688 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: wrong about the bloater, but I did you heard me 689 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: talk about it for where I had revised my my 690 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: prediction because it's too early. It's not the game, but 691 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 1: in the show, right, I think I know what happens 692 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: the next one. That is too much more spoiler. But 693 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: intence trauma every I mean every every time, every time, 694 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: every time. Oh my gosh, what an emotional roller coaster 695 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: this is. I probably watched it again tonight. I don't know. 696 00:38:53,360 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: I know you will, you will. Ah well, thank you, 697 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you Samantha Hosting for supporting me my passions. 698 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: Thank you listeners. I hope you're enjoying it. I have 699 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: enjoyed all of my I mean, it does kind of overwhelming, 700 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: but I've enjoyed all the messages I've gotten about it, 701 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: especially the like why threw my arms up in the air? 702 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: You could see it? But uh oh wow, I can't 703 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: wait for the next episode. I think I texted you 704 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: the next day. I was like, I'm so excited, so excited, 705 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: be on lookout for that. As we said, these are 706 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: coming out every Saturday, a week after the newest episode 707 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: to prepare you for the next one, right right, just 708 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: the recaps, just the recap, and uh, you know, I 709 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: could talk about this forever. I think the second I 710 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: think the last episode is going to be two parter, 711 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: but we'll see. But then we'll go back to our 712 00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: regularly scheduled ash programming. Promise, promise, promise. If you have 713 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: any thoughts, if you want to send me any crying 714 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: text messages, you guy, you can email us at Stuff 715 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: Media Mom Stuff at i heeart media dot com. 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