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Speaker 1: Sure, it's time nice hell level love No. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm your host, Rob Shooter,

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Speaker 1: and it is Thursday, which means one of our favorite

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Speaker 1: people it's always with us on Thursday. I look forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing his big smile is handsome. Fee to your friend,

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Speaker 1: Loopy Lou Hey, Mark, are you there?

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Speaker 2: Loopy Lou? Hello?

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Speaker 1: Rab but name makes me giggle. You said that people

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Speaker 1: used to call your dad loopy.

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Speaker 2: They used to calm with you Lou too. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: really funny that you are all.

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Speaker 1: Comes full curtle, doesn't it, Loopy Lou? We love you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's jump in the show because we've got a ton

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Speaker 1: of gossip to get to quite scandalous stuff today. But

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Speaker 1: don't worry, we're going to handle it in a naughty

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Speaker 1: but nice type of way. Mark, because it's easy to

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Speaker 1: get really naughty. It is, and I sometimes do this

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Speaker 1: in life, and I hate myself afterwards. When you're out

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Speaker 1: drinking with friends, big stories are always the stories that

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Speaker 1: really hard to be naughty. We are naughty, but we

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Speaker 1: are nice. I like to say, Mark, you might have

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Speaker 1: friend at page six. We are a pinch. We're not

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Speaker 1: a punch or a pincher, just a little pinch on

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Speaker 1: to this philosophy. I'm going to do it. Okay, Bob

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Speaker 1: story at the top of the show. Andy Cohen from

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Speaker 1: Bravo has been accused of snorting cocaine with these favorite

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Speaker 1: housewives in a bombshell lawsuit. So the allegations in the

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Speaker 1: lawsuit were filed by former Housewives star Liam McSweeney, and

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Speaker 1: they are explosive. So she claims that Andy uses cocaine

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Speaker 1: with the Housewives now using cocaine. I know some people

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Speaker 1: they hang out, they're all equals. Not true. He's their boss,

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Speaker 1: and that's why this story gets very, very difficult. Plus,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, Cocaine's illegal. He's not drinking vodka with him.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he is, but alcohol is legal, you might be

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Speaker 1: able to abuse it. But drugs are still drugs. Mark,

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Speaker 1: And so when a lot of my friends are quite

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Speaker 1: blase about drugs, I'm like, no, no, no. In corporate America.

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Speaker 1: And don't forget Brather is owned by NBC, it's corporate.

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Speaker 1: In corporate America, drugs is just not good. What do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. And I you know, I think back

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Speaker 2: to when all this came to be, when Bravo and

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a lot easier to point out when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think you're onto something there. The world

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Speaker 1: has really changed, and I'm grateful for that. The way

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Speaker 1: And I think that's good. It's Simon's changed too. Andy

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Speaker 2: And I think, you know, I wonder, is this the

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Speaker 2: And you know now that we're in a different time,

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Speaker 2: you know, more people are looking at you. Yes, in

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Speaker 1: You put yourself in this spotlight. You wanted this, and

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Speaker 1: Andy worked really hard to be famous. He always wanted

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Speaker 1: she went on Watch What Happens Live, Andy offered her drugs,

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Speaker 1: And it's easy to just laugh at Brandy because we've

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Speaker 1: snorting cocaine with his favorite housewives. We know he has

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Speaker 1: his favorites. I wonder who they were. We know Bethen

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Speaker 1: If your supervisor did this to you, if your supervisor

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Speaker 1: Andy has denied all of this. They put out a

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