1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I am Garrett Downing. 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: I am here with Clifton Brown. Today the Ravens got 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: their first win of the season. They took down the 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys twenty eight to twenty five to get a 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: much needed win. This team really was in kind of 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: a crossroads early in the season, but they come away 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: with a huge win on the road. Cliff, we'll talk 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: about the good the bad. It was a little closer 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: comfort there at the end. I think most people, you know, 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Ravens fans are probably sitting there thinking, you know, this 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: is a less relaxing fourth quarter, and it didn't end 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: up that way at the very end. But still it's 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: huge to get this win for this team and approved 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: a one to two on the year. 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: Right, It's hard to overstate how big this win was 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: for the Ravens any way. 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 3: You could get it. 18 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: It did look like it was going to be a 19 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: comfortable win for a lot of the game and it 20 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: got closed at the end. But you know, no team's 21 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: ever going to the super Bowl. After starting zero to three, 22 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: the Ravens wonted no part of that neighborhood. Now one 23 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: and two, this is the type of win that could 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: get them started in the right direction. So they needed 25 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: to escape downas with a win any way possible. They 26 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: did that, and yes, there's a lot more reason to 27 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: feel optimistic about the season now than there was, you know, 28 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: four hours ago. 29 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I mean this team, this team badly needed 30 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: a victory. And John Harbaugh was even asked after the game, like, 31 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: did you view this as a must win? 32 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: You know? 33 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: And he he, he said, every every game is is 34 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: kind of a must win. That's the way coaches and 35 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 1: players look at it. But you know, to your point, 36 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 1: no team had ever gone to the Super Bowl starting 37 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: knowing three and in the division, the Steelers are sitting 38 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: there at three and oh they got the win earlier 39 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: in the day. You don't want to fall in a 40 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: three game hole at any point in a season, let 41 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: alone right out of the gate. And so it was 42 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: really significant. I think it. I think it can change 43 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: some of the conversation around this team and where they're 44 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: going and how good they are and you know the 45 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: potential of this group. I think that you know, this 46 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: this win and that I mean, the Cowboys are expected 47 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: to be, you know, one of the top teams in 48 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: the NFC. You know, that was the expectation for them 49 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: coming into the year, and the Ravens for basically three 50 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: quarters dominated that game, really on both sides of the ball. 51 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Now we'll talk about the fourth quarter and the issues 52 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: of the Ravens had there, but for three quarters, it 53 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: was a dominant performance from this This Ravens team offense 54 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: was effective moving up and down the field. Derek Henry 55 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: had a monster day. Lamar Jackson was in control the 56 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: entire day. Defense wasn't giving any ground. It was really 57 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: one of those games that you say, Okay, this is 58 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: what it's supposed to look like, this is what you want. 59 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that if the game had 60 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: started bad and then the Ravens roll for the final 61 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: three quarters, you end the game like a much better 62 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: taste in your mouth. But which is part of the 63 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: challenge and kind of talking through all the other details 64 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: of the game. But I think I still think that 65 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: you can't, even though it got close to the end, 66 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: you can't overset say the significance of what it means 67 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: to get this victory. 68 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: Right, Those are all good points you made, I thought, Garrett, 69 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's like the Ravens haven't put four quarters together. 70 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: Yet that's been a problem. Even this game, whether they've 71 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: won or lost, they have not had a consistent fourth 72 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: quarter performance yet, and that's where they need to get 73 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: to if they're going to do something special this year. 74 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: Now, they was the longest. 75 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: Stretch I thought where the Ravens played their type of football. 76 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: As you mentioned, they dominated the first half, they got 77 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: a large lead, They were clearly the better team. 78 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: On the field. To me, this today even if they 79 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: had lost the game. 80 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: But the two games previously, particularly the Raiders game, the 81 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: Ravens figured out a way to lose even though they 82 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: were the better team. Today, they figured out a way 83 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: to win even when it looked like the game might 84 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: be slipping away. And you know the NFL people talk about, well, 85 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: you know, this team should win this week, this team 86 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: should lose this week. That is to me, that is 87 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: kind of backward thinking. I mean, the way the league 88 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: is now, any team is capable of beating any team 89 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: on any given Sunday, and most games are close now. 90 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: The teams where there are one sided, two and three 91 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: touchdown games, those games are rare now for a team 92 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: and I think, you know, in the Ravens' perspective last year, 93 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: going fourteen to three and blowing people out a lot, 94 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: maybe that got people a little bit spoiled thinking and 95 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: it's like Eve go out there and win games. 96 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: It's not. 97 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: And if you don't finish games, which has been to 98 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: me the biggest Ravens biggest problem you know, this year 99 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: and really for a couple of years. 100 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: You can't only just outplay a team. 101 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: You need to finish the game, and the fourth quarter 102 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: in the last five minutes, regardless of what's happening before, 103 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: that is crucially important. The Ravens came close to letting 104 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: another one step in a way, but that completion from 105 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: Lamar to Zay that pulls out the game. That's the 106 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: type of play you need to finish a game. So 107 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: the Ravens finished. Hopefully this will be something they can 108 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: continue to build on because getting that first win is huge. 109 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: I don't care how good you think you are, not 110 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: until you win that first game. That to me is 111 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: really when the season begins for you, when you win 112 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: that first one. 113 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned Lamar getting the big completion at the end. 114 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: That was massive because basically the entire fourth quarter he's 115 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: for the most part he was standing there on the sidelines, 116 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: watching the Cowboys move the ball up and down the 117 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: field on the Ravens defense. And he comes in at 118 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: the end of the game there and all of a sudden, 119 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: it went from a twenty eight to six lead, now 120 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: it's twenty eight to twenty five. And you know, I'm 121 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: sure to some degree, what's going through their minds is 122 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: all the conversation about finishing games and what the dialogue 123 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: was this week coming into the game about blown leads 124 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, all that stuff. All that stuff 125 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: is circulating, right, and then the offense gets on the 126 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: and it's third and six, and he delivered a strike 127 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: to Zay Flowers who got open. And I thought it 128 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: was a really significant moment for the Ravens obviously to 129 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: win that game and come up with that play, but 130 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: I thought it was big for Lamar, like the Ravens 131 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: put it. The Ravens put it on his shoulders, which 132 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: is we all know, you know, he's this team will 133 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: go as Lamar goes. And he delivered a strike in 134 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: that moment, big throw, and then comes back on the 135 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: next play and gets the ten yard carry on first 136 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: down to seal it and end in victory formation. And 137 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: so while it was it was more nerve wracking than 138 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: you'd like. The Ravens did finish the game with the 139 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: offense on the field. You finished the game in victory formation, 140 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: which was really big. And you know, John Harball said 141 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: after gain, Lamar was phenomenal, and I think he was. 142 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: I just think that he had total command of the game. 143 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: He finished twelve of fifteen one hundred and eighty two yards, 144 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: one touchdown, and then on the ground fourteen carries eighty 145 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: seven yards and a touchdown. I just thought it was 146 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: a complete game from Lamar, and I think that he 147 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: opened up the Ravens are running him. He was running 148 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: early in this game, and I think that opened up 149 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: a lot for Derrick Henry, who will talk about him, 150 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: of course, but he finished one hundred and fifty one 151 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: yards on the ground, and I think that Lamar made 152 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: life easier on Henry because so many of the eyes 153 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: on that defense were always focused on Lamar Jackson, and 154 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: that was the case at the very end of the 155 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: game as well. So big, big, big for him in 156 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: the offense to get off the field in victory formation 157 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: to close this thing out. 158 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Lamar was Lamar, but I do feel 159 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: like this was the first kind of like another step 160 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: in Lamar and Derek Henry being the one two punch 161 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: that drives opposing defense is crazy. I mean, those two 162 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: guys are exceptional players at their position who really, to me, 163 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: could carry. 164 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: The Ravens offense. 165 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: But we're out this season and you know, we saw 166 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: Lamar Week one against Kansas City that phenomenally a'm running. 167 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: But to me, the combination today of Lamar and Derrick 168 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: Henry both being threats on the ground is really something 169 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: an opposing defense really can't stop. I mean, if you 170 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: stop one, the other one's going to get away. So 171 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: we saw that today. Dereck Henry had his best game 172 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: as a Raven. But also it wasn't like Lamar was 173 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: just standing back latching as far as being a running 174 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: threat and going to run the ball. Lamar, I feel, 175 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: even with the presidence of Derrick Henry, He's going to 176 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: continue to run the ball as much as he feels 177 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: as necessary to. 178 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: Win a game. 179 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: And then you couple that with what he can do 180 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: throwing a football. That's what makes him a unique player. 181 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 2: So yeah, they needed that type of performance from Lamar 182 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: and probably from Derrick Henry. 183 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: To escape Dallas with a victory. But they did. 184 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, there was a lot of talk about 185 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: offensive identity this week, and Monkan was asked about it. 186 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: Harball was asked about it, and after the game, Hardball 187 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: pointed out, and you know that that kind of is 188 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: our identity. Two hundred and seventy four yards on the ground. 189 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: Henry had one hundred and fifty one of them. Lamar 190 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: again had eighty seven seven of them, just as Hill 191 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: had thirty three and Zave Flowers had had three yards. 192 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: But they absolutely controlled the line of scrimmage. And this 193 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: was the first real taste of the old like when 194 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: you get Derick Henry and the Ravens have been on 195 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: the other side of this thing, the old conversation around him. Man, 196 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: he gets better as a game goes on. He wears 197 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: teams down, and you saw him gashing the Cowboys in 198 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: the second half for some big games. He came up 199 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: with another monster stiff arm and you're like, this, this 200 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: is why you signed Derrick Henry, Like this is what 201 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: you had in mind when the Ravens went after him 202 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: hard this offseason. They wanted to add this type of 203 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: player into their offense, and he was awesome. He was 204 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: awesome today, and I think that if they can, if 205 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens can have that kind of success, Like, I know, 206 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: he's not gonna one hundred and fifty yards every game, 207 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: but like, if the Ravens can control the line of 208 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: scrimmage and he can roll like this and get him 209 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: in space, then it's going to be really hard for 210 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: this team for teams to stop this offense. And I 211 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: think that, like, again, identity, what do you want to be? 212 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: This is it? This is what the Ravens want their 213 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: offense to be. 214 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean from conversations we've had, I know, you know, 215 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: I'm kind of be the president of the Derrick Henry 216 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: fan club that I feel like as the season goes 217 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: on that he's going to become even more of a 218 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: he's in the Ravens offense that late in the season 219 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: and into the playoffs, that teams don't want any part 220 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: of Derrick Henry getting the ball twenty plus times a 221 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: game and having a tackle on him. That regards of 222 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: where you play or what the weather's like. That if 223 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: you can run the football, particularly in the second half, 224 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: your chances are winning go up exponentially. So yeah, I 225 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: mean He's a weapon, a dynamic weapon that the Ravens 226 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: have now they need and are in the process I 227 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: think of figuring out how best to use him in 228 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: combo with Lamar. So it was great from Raves perspective 229 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: to see him have his best game in week three. 230 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 2: You know, I know they don't want to were Derrek 231 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: Henry out before the stretch drive of the season in December, 232 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: January and hopefully February. But he is such a weapon 233 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: as Lamar is. When both of those guys are going well, 234 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: the Ravens are a very difficult team to beat. 235 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 236 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: I love what Lamar said after the game. He said, yeah, 237 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: that's what he showed out. He does what he does, 238 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: what Kings do, and that's why the Ravens got Derek Henry. 239 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: I also think as we're talking about this ground game, 240 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: we can't we'd be remiss not to talk about the 241 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: offensive line, because that was the huge talking point coming 242 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: into this game. Offensive line. You need to make adjustments there. 243 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: Daniel faul Lele, you know, is struggling. You need to 244 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: look at other options at right guard. You need to 245 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: shake things up. Are you going to keep this group? 246 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: All that stuff that was the conversation, you know, externally 247 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: coming into it. John Harball was asked about it, players 248 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: were asked about it, and you know, it was kind 249 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: of an interesting moment. In the postgame press conference room 250 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: after the game, John Harball was running through some of 251 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: the guys who came up with big plays, and he's 252 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: mentioned in Lamar and Zay and Derrick Henry and Lamar 253 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: entered Jackson, says Daniel Flele. And you know, Lamar was 254 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: asked about that after the game and he said, yeah, 255 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: of course I was aware of the criticism, but you know, 256 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: for everybody that was criticizing him coming into this game, 257 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: you also need to give him credit now. And I 258 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: do think it was It was a massive game for 259 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: this offensive line. They went up against Micah Parsons as 260 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: one of the best defensive players in football. They held 261 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: him at bay and they put up two hundred and 262 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: seventy four yards on the ground Like that is a 263 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: That's that's a monster day. That's a monster day for 264 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: an offensive line. No sacks for Parsons, no sacks for 265 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. He didn't get sacked the entire and I 266 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: just think that we need to give some praise to 267 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: this offensive line and the performance that they delivered today 268 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: a low question. 269 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I think John Harball has made a commitment 270 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: to stick with Dan Fallaylay as the right guard, that 271 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: he's made a commitment to stick with that starting five offensively, 272 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: because the more they play together, the more chemistry they'll 273 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,359 Speaker 2: develop and hopefully continue to play better as the season progresses. 274 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: The Ravens definitely starting three new offensive linemen this year 275 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: as opposed to last year. Replacing having three new starters 276 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: is a big commitment for a team that's trying to 277 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl, and there's going to be growing pains. 278 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: But I think John Harball is showing that he's committed 279 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: to these guys and today in this game, they definitely delivered. 280 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: Part of the reason why he and Lamar were so 281 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: effective running football was because the offensive line was giving 282 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: them running lanes to pick and choose from. I think 283 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 2: definitely early in the game they were really running left 284 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: a lot, yeah with success, and then later in the 285 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: game they were able to switch it up with success, 286 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: and yeah, if the offensive line plays as well as 287 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: it did today, the Ravens are going to have a 288 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: very good offense. 289 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: It's only Week three. 290 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: Most offensive lines late in the season played better than 291 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: they did early in the season. So definitely the needle 292 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: is trending up for the Ravens offensive line, and they've 293 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: been taking a lot of heat. You have to be 294 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: mentally tough to deal with some of the things have 295 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: been said and written about them over the past few weeks. 296 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: So this was definitely a step in the right direction 297 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: for the offensive line. 298 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, the one thing I'll say, I mean, you made 299 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: the point that John Harbal was committed to this group, 300 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: and he is, especially from the starting standpoint they started 301 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: with the same five, but he did say on Friday 302 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: that the Ravens were open to mixing it up and 303 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: putting some other rotations in the mix there. What that 304 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: exactly was going to look like, I don't know. You know, 305 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: Pat McCarey's versat all. He can move all over the place, 306 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: so he could play different positions. Roger rosen Garten has 307 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: played well, especially against Max Crosby, and so you could 308 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: see him maybe getting more of a workload at right tackle. 309 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: Ben Cleveland is still an option there at right guard, 310 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: really either guard spot, so they have some other options there. 311 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: But so I think we kind of felt like we 312 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: might see some other pieces there, but the way that 313 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: this offensive line was playing early in this game, they 314 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: just said, you know what, why are we going to 315 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: adjust it? This line is dominated the controlling the line 316 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. We're getting five, six, seven, eight yards of carry, Like, 317 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: why do we need to switch things up? And they 318 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: stuck with this group the entire game. So there was 319 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: a there's a universe in which the Ravens end up 320 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: using some different offensive linemen in a different rotation there, 321 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: but this group played so well that they didn't want 322 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: to They didn't want to adjust it. And I think that, 323 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, Lamar came out as I talked about and 324 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: praised this offensive line. Derrick Henry did as well, you know, 325 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: and he talked about it a few times in his 326 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: press conference. He mentioned it off the top. You know, 327 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of running backs like to do credit 328 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: to my offensive line. But he then talked a little 329 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: bit more and said that, like, you know, we're in 330 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: this thing together, and he wanted to give this offensive 331 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: line to vote of confidence and let them know that 332 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: he had their back and they have his. And so 333 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot more belief I think 334 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: in the Ravens inside the castle and inside that locker 335 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: room about this offensive line than there was externally. And 336 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: I think that today's performance was a showing that this 337 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: line has the potential to be really good and paved 338 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: the way for a dominant ground game. 339 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: Yes, and yeah, I definitely agree with you know, Lamar 340 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: wanted Balle to get his flowers a day after getting 341 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: so much heat, you know, the first few weeks. And 342 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: that's the type of leader of Lamar is he He 343 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: is very supportive of his teammates, very rarely will let 344 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: anyone take the blame before he takes, you know, responsibility himself. 345 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: But all the guys in the locker room know that, 346 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: you know, they read and see all the all the 347 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: christ of the offensive line, like they were kind of 348 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 2: like the weak link. People see, there's a weak link 349 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: of the offense and they played well today. So you know, 350 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 2: in a situation like this, I think they all Derek Hennemy, Lamar, 351 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: all these skilled guys who often get the praise, wanted 352 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: to make sure that the offensive line got recognition for 353 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: having an excellent game. And yeah, I mean, we haven't 354 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: even talk about you, Michael Parkins, Michael Parsons, I mean, 355 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: you know, unlike Chris Jones and you know Max Cross, 356 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: we were able to make plays against the Ravens that 357 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: really set them back in the first two losses. Michael 358 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: Parsons is the great player, as he was, you know, 359 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: offensive line and the others managed to handle him in 360 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 2: a way. He did not take over the game at 361 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 2: any point this in this game, and that shows you 362 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: how well the offensive line played that Michael Parsons was, 363 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: you know, basically neutralizing that. You know, the Ravens were 364 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: able to move the ball effectively despite the presidence of 365 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: a great player who had the potential to wreck their plans. 366 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, another thing I want to hit on before kind 367 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: of getting getting into the fourth quarter. That was something 368 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: that I think was just a you know, a great 369 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: element of this game is how the Ravens started. They 370 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: force a punt on the Dallas' opening possession. Then the 371 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: offense takes the field and its boom is right down 372 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: the field. Five plays, seventy one yards, Lamar Jackson touchdown. 373 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: They get the ball back, boom, seven plays seventy yards, 374 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: they march and you know on the on the second 375 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: drive is when they had the big Nelson Aguilar catch 376 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: and run and then and then Derrick Henry plunges in 377 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: on that one. But to open the game with those 378 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: two possessions, two touchdown drives, I think it just was 379 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: I think it kind of had a calming effect to 380 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: some degree, and it also like it was a reminder 381 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: as well to this entire team, like, Okay, this offense 382 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: is good. We're good. You know, this is a tough atmosphere. 383 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of heat, but this offense is 384 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: good and we're seeing it right now. 385 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 386 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: I mean, when you're owing to and you are playing 387 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: on the road, you definitely want to throw the first punch. 388 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ravens did that. I mean, they took the lead, 389 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: they took control early. 390 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: They established right away that if Dallas was going to 391 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 2: win this game, it certainly wasn't going to be easy. 392 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: And so yeah, they set the tone. 393 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: I mean, the Ravens set the tone that even though 394 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: they were owing to and on the road, we're the 395 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: better team. And Dallas, to its credit, didn't fold in 396 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: the tent, came back. Made it a very interesting and 397 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 2: you know, nerve wracking game. They're down the stretch, but 398 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: the Ravens dictated tembo. They we puncher Cowboys had to 399 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 2: be the counterpuncher because of how they started. And you know, 400 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: we haven't talked about, you know, the offensive time monking 401 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 2: too much after you know, in the fourth quarter of 402 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: Week two, the Ravens not being able to move to 403 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: football in key situations to close the game. I thought 404 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: it was really important for the offensive start fast and 405 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: they did, and that to me, yes, set the tone. 406 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: You knew after the first quarter the Ravens, Okay, they're 407 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: here today, they're playing well. They've got an accellent chance 408 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: to win this game. Just because of the opening statement 409 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: that they made. It was it was a powerful one. 410 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally all right, So we're gonna take a quick break. 411 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll dive into the fourth quarter, 412 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: what went wrong during that period and where the Ravens 413 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: go from here. You're listening to the Lounge podcast. We're 414 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: coming to you from the Seakeek studio. We also want 415 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: to give a shout out to our friends at Draftking Sportsbook. 416 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: They are an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens. 417 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: Draftking Sportsbook. The Crown is yours. So we just spent 418 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about what went right and 419 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: there was a lot to like. The fourth quarter was 420 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: primarily not one to like, and the Cowboys went from 421 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: trailing twenty eight to six to a really tight game 422 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: there twenty five where the Ravens needed to come up 423 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: with a big drive by the offense at the end 424 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: to steal it with the win. So when you're looking 425 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: at it, like what went wrong? What changed? Why were 426 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: the Cowboys able to have success when the Ravens really 427 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: controlled this game for those first three quarters. 428 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 2: I think you got to give some credit to Dak Prescott. 429 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 2: He made some throws there under pressure that I thought 430 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: were really outstanding. Obviously not getting the on side kickback 431 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: the recovery that to me, changed the game from being 432 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: one that the Ravens were still in control of to 433 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: one that they were in danger of possibly losing. To 434 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 2: give the Cowboys two straight possessions there, that kind of 435 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: opened up the possibility the Ravens might lose. 436 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, those are two of the things 437 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 3: I thought went wrong. 438 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: Not making the on side kick recovery, Dak making some throws. 439 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: I didn't really think the Ravens defense was breaking down, 440 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: but certainly, you know, Dak was making some plays and 441 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: the Ravens Yeah, Unlike earlier in the game with the 442 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: pass ruds, I thought was really overwhelming. This time sometimes 443 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: they were blocked and when they weren't blocked, Dak was. 444 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: Able to escape and make some plays. 445 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, I know people are going to say in 446 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, Ravens still didn't look like a team 447 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: that was putting the nail on the coffin. 448 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: I agree with that, but. 449 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: It only got with Lamart to say that this was 450 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 2: a game that they were not going to let slip away. 451 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think there's a couple of different 452 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: levels to this one. I do think that the the 453 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: special teams group as a whole through the first three 454 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: weeks does need to imp you know, Look, Justin Tucker 455 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: has been the best field goal kicker in his career 456 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: ever to play. It's not been a good start to 457 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: the season for him, and I'm sure he would be 458 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: the first to say that. And he missed a forty 459 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: six yarder that would have given the Ravens a little 460 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: bit of additional breathing room. That's not a kick that 461 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: he misses, you know, much in his career, and I'm 462 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: sure that you know he's he's ticked about that one. 463 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: So that they missed that, and then come back on 464 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: the flip side and there's the on side kick, which 465 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: you know, Zay Flowers just has to catch that ball, 466 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, that went right through his hands. And so, 467 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, those two things I think are relatively fluky, 468 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: not things that happen all that often. But either way, 469 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens have to be better on special teams. They 470 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: also had a holding penalty on the last kickoff return. 471 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: They put the Ravens deeper than you would want to 472 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: start in that situation didn't matter, but you don't want 473 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: that penalty. So the Ravens do have to clean those 474 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: those special teams kind of miscues up. And then on 475 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: the defensively, you know, I think that I do think 476 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: the defense is kind of gased because they were on 477 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: the field like the whole fourth quarter because because again 478 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: there was that there was the on side kick, so 479 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: that didn't help somebody that they were Like there seemed 480 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: to be some communication challenges at times. On the touchdown pass. 481 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: Roquan Smith was you know, seemed to think that he 482 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: was gonna have safety help over the top and he's 483 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: looking at the safeties and you know, I don't know 484 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: what the exact call was on that and if it 485 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: was played correctly or not. But there's there does seem 486 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: to be instances where there's miscues that are happening, whether 487 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: blown coverage, communication that just shouldn't happen. And like, this 488 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: is a veteran defense where you can't you can't give 489 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: up that kind of production in the fourth quarter and 490 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: expect to get out on skates. The Ravens had such 491 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: a nice lead today that they were able to do that. 492 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm with you, Dak Prescott. I thought played 493 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: a heck of a fourth quarter. But the Ravens defensively 494 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: they still need to be better, and special teams by 495 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: they still need to be better in those instances too, 496 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: because you know, I just think that that that type 497 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: of a fourth quarter is one that can cost you 498 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: in a big, big time and you don't want to 499 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: have that crop, you know, come up again. 500 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, uh, Zach Zach Gore got his first 501 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: wins defensive coordinator. Yeah, outside his home town there in Dallas, 502 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: where he grew up a lot of friends and family. 503 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: Big relief, I think for him to get that first one, 504 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: regardless of how prettier it looked or didn't look. 505 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: I know I was disappointed, Cliff, because I was like, 506 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: I expect you this to be kind of a conversation. 507 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: Zach goes home, He's got all his friends and family there, 508 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: and we're having like the conversation, like, man, this defense 509 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: came up, played great, great win for Zach, and then 510 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: so again it's still the win. But I'm sure like 511 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: he's he's probably watching all the He's probably watching the 512 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: fourth quarter on that flight home more than he is. 513 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: The first three quarters. 514 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: Won't be satisfying. 515 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: But I do think the defense is going through growing 516 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: pains like it did Mike McDonald's first year's coordinator or 517 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: any name you want a substitute. It is even though 518 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: Zach grew up in this system as a player and 519 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: then as a coach and had a huge part in 520 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: building the system that the Ravens play. Now he is 521 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 2: putting his own stamp on the defense. It is three 522 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: games of the season with a new defensive coordinator. They 523 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: have they do have a few different pieces that they 524 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 2: didn't have last year, and yeah, this is not a 525 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: thing where you just pick up from where you left 526 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: off last year, and the growing pains is showing. So yeah, 527 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 2: I think in a way, it's like, Okay, even though 528 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: the Ravens got their first win, they're not gonna be 529 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: patting themselves on the chest, which is probably good because yeah, 530 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 2: it's not what they did today was good enough to win, 531 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 2: but it's not going to be necessarily good enough to 532 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: win every week. So it's a step in the right direction. 533 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: But they know far from where they need to be. 534 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: So I just think for today, as I said at 535 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: the top, any way you got to win today would 536 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: be a plus, and so that's. 537 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: All that matters. Like that's that is all that matters. 538 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 3: That's the bottom line. 539 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: They're wanting to they have something to build on with 540 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 2: obviously two very tough opponents coming up in the next 541 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: two weeks. This gives them a little momentum going into 542 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 2: that Sunday night game against Buffalo. 543 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. A couple other notes here that I just 544 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: want to hit before we wrap up. You know, Nate Wiggins, 545 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: that strip by him on Ceedee Lamb was massive. That 546 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: was a turning point in this game. You know, you 547 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: saw how explosive the Cowboys offense, the potential for how 548 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: explosive they could be. They were knocking on the door 549 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: there for Nate to come up with that strip on 550 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, one of the best receivers in football, that 551 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: was huge. That was a big moment for him, you know, 552 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: I think you know, he obviously didn't play last week 553 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: dealing with a neck injury and the concussion, but for 554 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: him to come up with that play, that was huge. 555 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: And then another guy who I want to mention, Kyle 556 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: van Noy. Man, like, this guy gets a fractured orble 557 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: de bone in the opener and then he comes back 558 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: and has four sacks over the next two games. He 559 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: deserves some huge praise for the way that he has 560 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: played these last couple of games. 561 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a lot of guys I would have 562 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: to say for maybe some guys don't play at all. 563 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially like a veteran player. 564 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: You know, right, and then he plays he's dominant in 565 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: two games after suffering injury and injury like that. I mean, yes, 566 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: Kyle Van Noy definitely has been one of the Ravens' 567 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: best players to the first three games. And then Nate 568 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: Wiggins making a play like that against a star player 569 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: in the NFL shows you what kind of potential Wiggins has. 570 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: He's such a competitive guy and whether he has broken 571 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: up a pass or has gotten beaten on a pass, 572 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 2: the next play, he feels fully confident that he's going 573 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: to get the better of you, and that stripped there. 574 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: For the Cowboys to come away with nothing when it 575 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: seemed like they were going to get field goal words 576 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: probably touchdown and make the game a lot closer. 577 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: That was a huge momentum swing. As you mentioned. 578 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: So Wiggins is a guy that even though he's not 579 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: in the starting lineup, I think that as most people, 580 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: I think believe by the end of the season, he's 581 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: going to be a key piece of the secondary And 582 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: that play after not playing last week showed you why 583 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: he has the potential to be such a special player. 584 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: Two other quick notes. One Raves saw had too many 585 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: penalties thirteen penalties one hundred and five yards. Not all 586 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: of them I think were legit, you know, O way 587 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: I thought was a TICKI tak one. Mike Pereira, the 588 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: Fox officiating expert, agreed. So there were some that you wonder, 589 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, I still am wondering how there wasn't an 590 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: illegal or attentional grounding called on Justin Matabique's near sack 591 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 1: of Dak Prescott. How that didn't get called, but thirteen 592 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: penalties one hundred five yards. Harbor said, they just got 593 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: to they got to be better. They got to clean 594 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: those up, and so that's something that I think they're 595 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: going to go to work on. And also Bateman he 596 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: gets a touchdown. Happy for him to get his first touchdown. 597 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: It's you know, as we all know, it's been kind 598 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: of an up and down career for Rashad up to 599 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: this point where he's dealt with plenty of challenges, but 600 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, he comes up. He's got some big plays 601 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: earlier this season, and so it was it was big 602 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: for him to get in the end. 603 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: Zigne, no question. 604 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: I mean with the penalties, yeah, definitely. I mean sure 605 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: you can always when you're getting thirteen penalties, there's always 606 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: going to be a couple of penalties that you feel 607 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: like we're questionable that went against you. But you know 608 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: it's time for the Ravens to have, you know, five 609 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: penalties in the game and have a couple that you're 610 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: griping about rather than thirteen and having a couple of 611 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: you're griping about. As far as for Rashad, yes, he's 612 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: played well this year and in an offense with Zay 613 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: Flowers and Lamar and Derek Henry and Mark Andrew as Iaia. 614 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: Likely there's gonna be times when he. 615 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: Doesn't see the ball for long stretches of time, and 616 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: that makes it to me a little bit harder that 617 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: when you do get your target to be in rhythm 618 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: and come through and make a play. 619 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 3: He's been able to do that these first three games, and. 620 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: Even though he is not seeing the ball, you know, 621 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: as much as a receiver would like, when he does 622 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: see it, this year, he's showing that his head will 623 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: be in the game and he will make a play. So, yes, 624 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: he deserves to have an opportunity to get that touchdown 625 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: because he has definitely been on point this year. There's 626 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: been a lot to talk about with Shad since he's 627 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: been here, but certainly this year being going into the 628 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: year healthy much as expected, and even though the numbers 629 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: may not be prolific, I think he's playing very well. 630 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: So the Ravens improved to one and two. Next up 631 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: as the Buffalo Bills coming to town for a Sunday 632 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: night football showdown be you know, the biggest game of 633 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: the week in the NFL, and uh, it's gonna be 634 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: exciting and the Ravens are right back in the mix, 635 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: right back in the mix after you know the O 636 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: two start. Now that you're sitting there thinking about you 637 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: could be upset Buffalo and or whatever. You could be 638 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: Buffalo and there Ravens could be you know at five 639 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: hundred to the first four games of the season. So 640 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: it's a big win, massive, massive victory for this team. 641 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: Happy play home back from Dallas and uh, you know 642 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: the Ravens have you know, they're in a good position 643 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: right now, and so enjoy this one. Ravens fans, as 644 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: as we know, they can be tough to come by 645 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: and it's it's really exciting to get this first win. 646 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: So Cliff appreciate you filling in here for Ryan. Ravens fans, 647 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: enjoy this game, Enjoy this win. As always, you can 648 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: email us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. 649 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: Ryan I will be back to do our full film 650 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: breakdown after looking at the film or this early this week, 651 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: so stay tuned for that. Thank you so much for listening, 652 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: and enjoy this dub DA