Speaker 1: Laugh with flame, he laughing with lame. If you watch
Speaker 1: Coffee Time to Baby, you know the name flame, my
Speaker 1: role also known as my role Flame. Come in with
Speaker 1: last and come in with jam love lounds. Baby, you
Speaker 1: better catch it when you can't drop a knowledge from
Speaker 1: fatherhood to polytics shouting now comics just paying homics. What's
Speaker 1: up till? Yeah? You know she raped shot towns on
Speaker 1: speak into the ground. And second we're gonna last cut
Speaker 1: of the kicking and at the end we leave it,
Speaker 1: which is a lift disperence. Think you want to revisit?
Speaker 1: Tell your first take a list at till folks like
Speaker 1: you slip all folks that we dig it. Hain't no
Speaker 1: kids do what you do. Hain't no kiss do what
Speaker 1: you do. I can't no kiss do what I do? No.
Speaker 1: So my hair is so long and blind. Mh, I'm
Speaker 1: hind a drunk drunk or something because this head definitely
Speaker 1: ain't blind. I'm very sober. We're gonna have a great
Speaker 1: show today. We have a very special guest in house today,
Speaker 1: Mr Robert glass Peop will be joining us. But before
Speaker 1: we get to that, Lauren Hogan, Yes, how is your week?
Speaker 1: What is oh reconnecting? Um, My week was good. Um,
Speaker 1: I literally just canceled a work trip because of all
Speaker 1: of what's happening in um Louisiana with Hurricane Ida. So
Speaker 1: we just wanted to be safe. So I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: here for the next two weeks. She's going to be
Speaker 1: in house in studio. Next Monday is Labor Day. Next
Speaker 1: Monday's Labor Day, and we know that. Um, we're not
Speaker 1: going to be having a show obviously because it's Labor Day.
Speaker 1: And more importantly, what's happening on September six? It's Labor Day.
Speaker 1: No aside from that, what else is happening on September six? Chicago?
Speaker 1: Be in Chicago. We're having in the white party with
Speaker 1: a splash of Rainbow the list. So I've been getting
Speaker 1: a bunch of emails. It is a bunch of text message.
Speaker 1: It is not you don't have to wear white. It's
Speaker 1: not mandatory that you wear white, but we are encouraging
Speaker 1: because it's a white party. It's Labor Day weekend, so
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to wear white at the labor tell
Speaker 1: that the white people they waited all the time. So yes,
Speaker 1: we encourage you that you wear white. You get your
Speaker 1: tickets on event Bright we are almost two capacity, So yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all need to get your tickets because we ain't taking
Speaker 1: the money at the door and you'll be outside. Man.
Speaker 1: And I think we need to get people heads up
Speaker 1: to because you are going to be filming this, so
Speaker 1: don't show up looking dusty and broken, because you might
Speaker 1: be a part of something more special. You really might
Speaker 1: be a part. We do have a camera crew coming,
Speaker 1: so if you want to be looking cute on camera,
Speaker 1: then you dress up at home. If you don't want
Speaker 1: to be looking cute on Cranba standing in the shadows,
Speaker 1: because yeah, you might be seen by a hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety countries if I can get Netflix to buy this.
Speaker 1: That's real talk, um, Lauren, what else were talking about?
Speaker 1: We're talking about just so much happening in the world.
Speaker 1: We signed off the show by saying prayers to T. S.
Speaker 1: Madison and her mom, Miss Mary Mackins, because they both
Speaker 1: were fighting with COVID but they are on the other side.
Speaker 1: I saw the may Maddie posted this morning that she
Speaker 1: finally got her negative test results. I don't know if
Speaker 1: Miss Mary get her For prayers to Miss Mary and T. S. Madison.
Speaker 1: COVID is real, y'all. COVID is real. I know. We
Speaker 1: talked a good game on this page, and I talked
Speaker 1: about what I am going to do, what I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do, and I'm never telling you guys what to do.
Speaker 1: But still wash your hands and wear your masks and
Speaker 1: follow the precautions because COVID is real. Yeah, And shout
Speaker 1: out to Haiti because they're not getting a lot of
Speaker 1: national attention according to the United States News. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on somewhere else, but over here they
Speaker 1: had even talking about it. They're talking about Afghanistan, and
Speaker 1: shout out to them and prayers for them, but mostly
Speaker 1: prayers right now in the United States for um, New
Speaker 1: Orleans and all that had been affected by Hurricane Eida.
Speaker 1: Because i'da did not play with y'all that lady came through.
Speaker 1: She wasn't as bad as Christians, but actually it did.
Speaker 1: In retrospect, it kind of looks like she is. It
Speaker 1: just seems like we as a Yeah, it was like
Speaker 1: lessons swarn this time. But um, we do know that
Speaker 1: they're about a million folks in Louisiana without power. Um.
Speaker 1: I did see on the news this morning that New
Speaker 1: Orleans isn't flooded because the levees really held up. But
Speaker 1: the other surrounding parishes outside um, they are know, the
Speaker 1: water damage is kind of significant. And I think as
Speaker 1: of now, there's one person who's confirmed to have died. UM.
Speaker 1: So we definitely have to keep New Orleans and all
Speaker 1: of Louisiana and our prayers because they're going to be
Speaker 1: without power for about at least three weeks. They said
Speaker 1: that they're going to try and get essential businesses power
Speaker 1: within the next seven to ten days. So that's like
Speaker 1: you know, hospitals, grocery stores, gas stations, those sort of things, um,
Speaker 1: But everybody else who you know, if you just have
Speaker 1: a house and those sort of things, you're just gonna
Speaker 1: be without power for about three weeks. So shout out
Speaker 1: to the people that left and get out and have
Speaker 1: the ability and the finances to get out, because a
Speaker 1: lot of times people say, oh, I'm just gonna writ
Speaker 1: it out, it's because they don't have the money. You know,
Speaker 1: you can't just jump up and go. Sometimes it takes money,
Speaker 1: and it's it's just scary. Yeah, And I think that's
Speaker 1: that's the main thing that people just kind of don't,
Speaker 1: you know, realize they're like, oh, you need to evacuate,
Speaker 1: and it's like we'll evacuate, Where where am I going
Speaker 1: to go? You know, And people don't really take that
Speaker 1: into it, um and count it all. So you definitely
Speaker 1: want to keep everybody in um Louisiana and our prayers
Speaker 1: so you can as we are going to be interviewing Lawrence. Um,
Speaker 1: what is he to you? He's my uncle uncle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's my uncle. I love him dearly. I need I
Speaker 1: need an uncle that's a musician. Yes, yes, he's my
Speaker 1: dear uncle. Um, I love him dearly. Um. Yeah, he's Uh,
Speaker 1: he's quite the talent. I've got to say. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you forget who you're related to and who you
Speaker 1: know and just you know how great you know some
Speaker 1: people are in your family and truth be told, Rob
Speaker 1: was at my house a couple of weeks ago and
Speaker 1: he made a comment because we were The podcast came
Speaker 1: up and he made a comment like, so, how many
Speaker 1: more Grammys do I have to win before I get
Speaker 1: invited to the podcast? And I was like, I was like, oops,
Speaker 1: I kind of you're right. I kind of forgot about
Speaker 1: you because you know, comment has been on and he
Speaker 1: works with common and so he kind of felt some
Speaker 1: type of way. So I was like, yeah, we gotta
Speaker 1: get you on the show for sure, because it truly
Speaker 1: wasn't me. It was I don't really didn't realize. So
Speaker 1: I was like, my fault. Rob, We're definitely gonna have
Speaker 1: you on the show. Um, he's doing like amazing things.
Speaker 1: You know, I sent you some stuff. He's been working
Speaker 1: with Dave Chappelle and just like scored his movie and
Speaker 1: he's one of three musicians actually to have a residency
Speaker 1: at the Blue Note in New York. We're gonna bring
Speaker 1: Rob on in a minute because Rob is big time.
Speaker 1: Whenever you're ready and bring him own and Flame. We
Speaker 1: want you'll have your questions ready because we want you
Speaker 1: guys to come in and talk to Rob. Please be
Speaker 1: respectful because I will block your ass for generations. I
Speaker 1: have no If you think I'm shady with the blocking,
Speaker 1: I'm worse. I take that. I'm worse, way worse than me.
Speaker 1: So Rob, what's up? How are you? What's going down?
Speaker 1: So I gotta introduce you. This is Flame Monroe. This
Speaker 1: is my partner. I also manage her, but this podcast
Speaker 1: is really all about Flame. So Flames is Rob Rob Flame.
Speaker 1: No today, Rob, it's all about you. Blame Flame like fire? Yes,
Speaker 1: did you just say flavor? Flame? Don't make me slaps?
Speaker 1: So you're already signed off? Cut up? I know what
Speaker 1: kind of show this is gonna be. Okay, Flames, I
Speaker 1: got that Flame. Then I'm on Papa duty. At the
Speaker 1: same time, Lola's there. How Lola why she in a
Speaker 1: mini jail that looked like a little for a little
Speaker 1: mini prison for so Rob. I was briefly talking to Flame.
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, you're at my house is a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and we like the podcast came
Speaker 1: up and you were like, so, how many more Grammys
Speaker 1: do I have to get before I get invited on
Speaker 1: the show? Like, what the hell is going on? And
Speaker 1: I was like, you're right, I'm sorry, I'm very wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm very wrong for this. I forgot it was your niece, Rob.
Speaker 1: I won't me she could be quite funny acting. Let
Speaker 1: me just let you know that I wasn't very familiar
Speaker 1: with you. So I was researching. I was going on
Speaker 1: Google and looking up some stuff. And the song that
Speaker 1: you did with Brandy, that's always good Brandy to me.
Speaker 1: Brandy's voice is it's underrated, but I hate when they
Speaker 1: make her when they say that she's the vocal Bible.
Speaker 1: I do think that she has a great tone, and
Speaker 1: I love Brandy's voice, but I don't know that I
Speaker 1: would consider her to vocal bible. But I love that
Speaker 1: song that you guys do. I love Brandy's voice first
Speaker 1: of all, but I don't know if it's the vocal bible.
Speaker 1: But I'm not a singer. Song I think vocal bible, well,
Speaker 1: I think it's started out. That term started out with
Speaker 1: Brandy because in the studio, when she's making a song,
Speaker 1: she might be the best at it. Okay, yeah, meaning
Speaker 1: like making the song. Like I've never worked with anybody
Speaker 1: as precise as Brandy. And what I mean by that is, um,
Speaker 1: there's the thing when you're doing vocals and you stack
Speaker 1: your vocals, meaning you do one track, you do one
Speaker 1: vocal track, and then they say, hey, do another one,
Speaker 1: and you put that one on top of that one
Speaker 1: and that one on top of that one, so your
Speaker 1: vocal stacking. But she has so much control over her
Speaker 1: voice because you know, if you hold up, if you
Speaker 1: hold a note, your vibe brito may come in at
Speaker 1: a certain time, or your breath, your breath changes. Nobody
Speaker 1: can really sing the same note twice, back to back,
Speaker 1: exactly the same, like technically exactly the same. She's so
Speaker 1: good that she tricks the computer and the computer when
Speaker 1: she sings the song. When she sings one note that
Speaker 1: she's another note on top of that note. Oh, the
Speaker 1: computer thinks Lolo wants some attention. I knew it wants
Speaker 1: the attention. Yeah, she wants to be on the live too,
Speaker 1: Shenna want her whole life, so be ready. Oh she's
Speaker 1: like me to. She she literally tricks the computer and
Speaker 1: the computer that the computer faces it say it phases,
Speaker 1: that it phaces itself out. Because she was so precise,
Speaker 1: they think they they mistakenly just put the same thing
Speaker 1: on top of each other, not her doing another one,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. From a technical standpoint, I
Speaker 1: think people started calling her that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And she's an amazingly pleasant woman. I met her at
Speaker 1: Divassembly singing Shirley Ras Big Age benefit, and she was
Speaker 1: just the nicest person. She really was just a nice girl.
Speaker 1: Super a matter of fact, what we did that song
Speaker 1: she paid for the studio time? Wow, Because because the
Speaker 1: we're trying to get her in the studio. You know,
Speaker 1: doing the black radio albums are very hard when it
Speaker 1: comes to just you know, trying to track down the artist. First,
Speaker 1: she got tracked on the managers and it's the assistance
Speaker 1: to go to go through the management, the labels and
Speaker 1: all these things. And two of the two of the
Speaker 1: sessions got canceled and she called me. She called me personally.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know her yet. She called me, texted
Speaker 1: me purpose I mean personally, was like, hey, this is Brandy.
Speaker 1: I'm very sorry. There was a mistake with my team.
Speaker 1: Can I please have another shot at this song and
Speaker 1: I'll pay for this time. I'll do it. And if
Speaker 1: you don't like it, if we don't have to use it.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, yeah, always she's been such a
Speaker 1: good person, you know what I mean. And and enjoy
Speaker 1: the work with amazing the work with she does it.
Speaker 1: She does too much in the studio, Like you have
Speaker 1: to tell her we can stop recording now you everything
Speaker 1: you did was amazing. You can walk out of the
Speaker 1: boof now. You know, Rob, I saw that you're an
Speaker 1: accomplished pianist. So which music do you prefer? Do you
Speaker 1: prefer classical jazz? So R and B. What is your favorite?
Speaker 1: Um My, my heart, as far as the piano is concerned,
Speaker 1: my heart is in jazz, you know. But I grew
Speaker 1: up playing gospel music and then from there I'm in
Speaker 1: the order is actually the order of of of of
Speaker 1: of the music I was. I've been playing since I
Speaker 1: was a kid. It's really like R and B music
Speaker 1: I was learning line, I was learning I needed Baker
Speaker 1: songs and Luda Vangel songs by myself off the radio.
Speaker 1: You know. My mom would play that stuff and my
Speaker 1: dad in the house all the time. Look, don't mention
Speaker 1: that made the same sittence. They had a horrible feud
Speaker 1: all the time. Did they had a tour? I know,
Speaker 1: I heard, I know, But that's so funny. Those are
Speaker 1: the two artists of any artists, Those are the two
Speaker 1: artists that maybe want to play piano more than anybody,
Speaker 1: because they both used acoustic piano in their music. You
Speaker 1: know what. My mom and my dad played them all
Speaker 1: the time in the house, and I kept hearing the
Speaker 1: acoustic piano, you know, and then I met I met
Speaker 1: Um nat Adalaie Jr. Who's the Luther's piano player. Um
Speaker 1: on all those records you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: so it was that first, then it was gospel music,
Speaker 1: and then it was jazz and was hip hop after that.
Speaker 1: So I love a lot of it. But my heart,
Speaker 1: I think I speak. I speak the most personal from
Speaker 1: my instrument when I played jazz, you know what I mean. So, Job,
Speaker 1: I know you talked about this great experience as you
Speaker 1: have with Brandy and tell me to like shut up
Speaker 1: if you don't want to talk about this. But like
Speaker 1: I know, one of your most infamous interviews is when
Speaker 1: you talked about your experience with Lauren Hill. So how
Speaker 1: is that? Can we talk about that? Or do I
Speaker 1: got the glaze over that? Can we talk about what Laura? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can we talk about her? I got a glaze over it,
Speaker 1: like you know what, I've literally never talked about it. Again.
Speaker 1: I did that one interview, but it wasn't That interview
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be necessarily about her, you know, but
Speaker 1: it ended up to asking me a question. I answered
Speaker 1: the question, and I was very honest about what happened,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I was super honest, And
Speaker 1: you have to realize, like, after I did that, now
Speaker 1: this stuff I've never said in public. After I did
Speaker 1: that interview, so many musicians and artists hit me up,
Speaker 1: thanking me for being honest, for being honest, saying that
Speaker 1: because most musicians don't have the platform that I have
Speaker 1: to speak on the on the level that that I
Speaker 1: can to everybody hears it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: If she does something to a guitar player, if you
Speaker 1: know a player that was playing with her, no one's
Speaker 1: gonna hear about it. But but she messed with the
Speaker 1: wrong one time, she heard about it and then you
Speaker 1: saw her rebuttal after. Yeah, but I mean, my my,
Speaker 1: there was no purpose for that. I wasn't trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, put her under the ground or like do
Speaker 1: anything me. It was just like this is happening. And
Speaker 1: that was the worst. They asked me about my worst
Speaker 1: musical experience, and that honestly was the worst one because
Speaker 1: I feel like there's no reason, there's no no accomplishment
Speaker 1: you can make, you can have that would make you
Speaker 1: speak people like they're not okay. So now you know,
Speaker 1: I gotta add because I'm very unaware, like some of
Speaker 1: the flame it, we're very unaware of the situation. So
Speaker 1: y'all talking in circles around us. So now we need
Speaker 1: to know what the meat is in the soup. So
Speaker 1: now you gotta give us the meat. Rob okay, So
Speaker 1: I played so basically, you know, um Lauren. Lauren has
Speaker 1: been infamous for having for having members and not doing
Speaker 1: right by her band members, not paying them, not telling
Speaker 1: them to having the management tell them, tell the band
Speaker 1: members that you can you you cannot look her in
Speaker 1: the eye when you talk to her. You cannot look
Speaker 1: her in the eye when you talk to her. You
Speaker 1: only call her miss Hill when you talk to you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like all these things which
Speaker 1: I'm not even I don't even have a problem with.
Speaker 1: I don't even have a problem with the miss Hill part,
Speaker 1: Like that's fine, that's what you want to be called.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't mind that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But the whole don't look me in the eye, don't
Speaker 1: look her in the eye, don't try to shake her hand,
Speaker 1: which is fine even if don't try to shake her hand. Thing,
Speaker 1: I'm not even tripping. We're in COVID now, everybody does it, now,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But the whole on look me,
Speaker 1: and then I think I couldn't get up, I couldn't
Speaker 1: grab my head around, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: then after that, it was it was the mistreatment of funds,
Speaker 1: like not paying musicians, not want to pay them with
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be pay coming off of a tour,
Speaker 1: and you know, she she would literally feel like people
Speaker 1: should just be happy they went on the road with her,
Speaker 1: like charge it to that, charge it to you got
Speaker 1: to be on the road with me. And I can't
Speaker 1: pay my eye bills with that. I can't feed my
Speaker 1: kids with that. Oh my god. But it was just
Speaker 1: disrespect on those kind of levels where it's like repeatedly
Speaker 1: those things kept happening. And so many musicians I know
Speaker 1: have gone through that with her, and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And I had never played with her. I
Speaker 1: heard about it, but my friend was the mis director
Speaker 1: at the time, so it was one gig. It was
Speaker 1: in New York. I live in New York, so I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, you know, whatever, I'll see
Speaker 1: what see what the deal is. Everything was fine until
Speaker 1: like four days. No, sorry, everything wasn't fine. Started off
Speaker 1: pretty bad. My bad. We did speak worth rehearsal, but
Speaker 1: basically the very last day of the very one week
Speaker 1: of rehearsals for a show that was twenty minutes long
Speaker 1: and it was for a special thing from mont Blanc
Speaker 1: Jury Corporation. You know. Um. The seventh day rehearsal, she
Speaker 1: come in, she didn't even come in. The management came
Speaker 1: in and say, you know what, Lawrence not happy with
Speaker 1: how you've been rehearsing, how you've been rehearsing. So she
Speaker 1: wants to cut all your pay in half. The day
Speaker 1: before the show, all you're paying half. First of all,
Speaker 1: all the musicians are incredible. She changed the show every day,
Speaker 1: so it was like, okay, we're just running, you know.
Speaker 1: And the day before they want to take everybody's paying half.
Speaker 1: They changed they could everybody's paying half. It sept mind
Speaker 1: because I left. I said, well, you know what, you're
Speaker 1: find another piano player and I'm leaving, you know. So
Speaker 1: so I walked out. But then they chased me down
Speaker 1: in the middle of the streets, like what can we do?
Speaker 1: And I was like, pay me all my money now.
Speaker 1: Of fact, now before I walked back in rehearsal, I
Speaker 1: like you. I like you. I will say I did
Speaker 1: have one great moment with her. Um in the rehearsal
Speaker 1: right right before there's a song called uh do yeah,
Speaker 1: the piano, and she had just got through custom. She
Speaker 1: had just got through cussing out the band for some reason.
Speaker 1: That's the one. She had just kept cussing out the
Speaker 1: band for some reason. I forgot what it was cussing
Speaker 1: us out, and instead of playing I played the intro
Speaker 1: of the Joyful Joyful from the movie Yeah Boom boom,
Speaker 1: and she sung it joy for joy for Lord. We
Speaker 1: did a verse in the chorus. Felt so good. So
Speaker 1: she was so she wasn't all bad. Mostly at that
Speaker 1: point that capped into her her real self. I think
Speaker 1: something's up with her, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 1: why I I haven't talked about it anywhere else. I
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to slam. I didn't put it on my Instagram,
Speaker 1: from my Facebook. I just was honest about my what
Speaker 1: happened with me. But I think she's super talented. I
Speaker 1: think she's a great artist, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And I hope she's But I do feel like she
Speaker 1: just needs some help with whatever. That is what I mean.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, who's your favorite jazz
Speaker 1: artists and jazz from from the past, not even now?
Speaker 1: Because you know who I love Cod Porter's Book of Jazz.
Speaker 1: I love music, first of all, and I love called
Speaker 1: Porteress jazzmin and especially when Ella Fitzgerald sings his music.
Speaker 1: Ella is one of the Ellis. She's the coldest female.
Speaker 1: I would say. My my favorite jazz musician overall. Ever,
Speaker 1: is her be hand cocked. Okay, I thought you. I
Speaker 1: thought you were going to go for the bias, you
Speaker 1: know on that. Okay, that was a little surprising. All right,
Speaker 1: what do you think I was gonna she was gonna
Speaker 1: say monk, but you know, oh no, not gonna mention
Speaker 1: the family member. All Right, that's cool, that's cool. A
Speaker 1: little shady for that, that's cool, all right. No, No,
Speaker 1: I just got up her because the way he brought
Speaker 1: jazz into the modern into the modern day, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And he was able to go even
Speaker 1: even Herbie had one of the most popular hip hop songs,
Speaker 1: Um with Rocket, you know what I mean. So he's
Speaker 1: the jazz musician that crossed over, and Myles Avis jab
Speaker 1: musician that crossed over, and and Herbie watched him do it,
Speaker 1: and Herbie did it and then not because the Herbie,
Speaker 1: I'm able to do it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that that whole thing. Now, are you trained classically
Speaker 1: trained or professionally trained as a pianist? Spy, go ahead,
Speaker 1: spit the resume. I no, I mean I went to
Speaker 1: the High School for Performing Arts. In high school, like so,
Speaker 1: I studied jazz there. I didn't really study class I
Speaker 1: studied classical for like six months. You know. I didn't
Speaker 1: have the fucking it's it's you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And when when you play classical music, for the most part,
Speaker 1: if you if you have a career in classical music,
Speaker 1: you're playing other people's music. That's kind of what it
Speaker 1: is like. To get the big to get the big
Speaker 1: places to play in the big places, you have to
Speaker 1: play back and Mozart and like you have, you spend
Speaker 1: your life playing other people's music. They don't really love
Speaker 1: new compositions in the classical world so much, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I was never like that kind
Speaker 1: of guy where I was like, I want to do that.
Speaker 1: So I always wanted to create and create, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, But I went to high school for a
Speaker 1: first gask and I graduated from there and I went
Speaker 1: to I went to college, the New School and man
Speaker 1: uh Salt the New School Music School, and the jazz
Speaker 1: there for four years, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: I took pian lesson here and there. But for the
Speaker 1: most part, I think it's just more so. A guy
Speaker 1: was like, hey, there you go. Yeah, because whatever your
Speaker 1: playing is, God's playing is always different from yours. You
Speaker 1: just absolutely yeah, you know. When I'm a musician as well.
Speaker 1: But I didn't play the piano. I played the oboe.
Speaker 1: But my my favorite classical era is the Baroque around
Speaker 1: because that's my favorite music era. You didn't know. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. It's a lot of things about me,
Speaker 1: she said, musician. I said where where? And when I gotta?
Speaker 1: I got a scholarship, but don't cook when I graduated,
Speaker 1: but I put on a dress and some hey, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not doing that. So many people,
Speaker 1: there's so many people who don't know classical music. Watching
Speaker 1: they're probably like the Broke era. Girl, I said, broke.
Speaker 1: That was funny. Rob. So Rob, let me ask you
Speaker 1: because I know, I don't know if I've gotten the
Speaker 1: fullback story. But you are a part of a group
Speaker 1: called August Green, which is with Kareem Kareem Riggins excuse me,
Speaker 1: and Common or as Rashid as you would call him. So,
Speaker 1: how did y'all even form that group? Because I actually
Speaker 1: got the privilege to sit in studio while you guys
Speaker 1: were creating your first album, which was so dope to see.
Speaker 1: So how did you guys even form the group? Like?
Speaker 1: How did that happen? Um? I met Rashi Um like
Speaker 1: Common Sorry, it's okay, So you know I met him
Speaker 1: in UM, but I introduced me to him because he
Speaker 1: was blast friend that we meet below common Erica lived
Speaker 1: like a few blocks of each other in Brooklyn, Um,
Speaker 1: and he was like, Yo, my boy, who's a rapper
Speaker 1: and needs a He's trying to learn piano. Can you
Speaker 1: give him piano lessons? I didn't know anything about common
Speaker 1: I know who he was, but I was like all right,
Speaker 1: So I started going over his house giving piano lessons
Speaker 1: because he had a keyboard. He had the Roads a
Speaker 1: Roads keyboard at his crib. So I used to do
Speaker 1: that and then from that we became cool to him.
Speaker 1: A blow would hang out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I would go to studio sessions with them, and I
Speaker 1: watched him make some of the black water for chocolate,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and and some other things
Speaker 1: and some other things like that. So I've known Raschi
Speaker 1: for for a long time. Then I started recording. We
Speaker 1: started really recording together, um Um when he can but
Speaker 1: I don't know. Two Tops and twelve Black Radio two
Speaker 1: he did I Stand along with me the song I
Speaker 1: Stand Alone. And then from that after that I started
Speaker 1: coming in and producing something something, some songs for his
Speaker 1: record along with Kareem. So he would call me the
Speaker 1: studio and me and Kareem would kind of produced the
Speaker 1: songs together for Commons record that started on his album
Speaker 1: called um Black America Again. Common is these people we
Speaker 1: don't like. Common is Tipty Pattish is our executive producer
Speaker 1: here at the podcast, and you know they're dating and
Speaker 1: so we always played cards. He gave me a birthday
Speaker 1: party in his mane at his house in Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: last year. But then then he can't play in those
Speaker 1: spaces that tears that ass up and space. But we
Speaker 1: have the best time. He's a nice man, really play man.
Speaker 1: But he need a bigger pool. You said that pool.
Speaker 1: I didn't think that was a pool. I thought that
Speaker 1: was just like a little a little wade pond. You
Speaker 1: just walked through. Oh, for something like yeah, like that's
Speaker 1: the ankle pool. He just put your feet into the
Speaker 1: really nice person though, and just very literally, very down
Speaker 1: to earth treated me from day one just like what's
Speaker 1: the flame? Like cool and just just a nice guy overall.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you worked with him because he good people.
Speaker 1: Good people always should work with good people. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that you didn't work with that, but he let me.
Speaker 1: Let me go back to Lauren Hill for a second,
Speaker 1: because Lauren Hill is to me was a musical genius
Speaker 1: with the miseducational. That album that would can go in,
Speaker 1: can go into a time capsule for three thousand years
Speaker 1: and still be relevant. Don't have people coming to you, damnself.
Speaker 1: Look at her. She ready get your name. The other peals.
Speaker 1: That was the other piece of the puzzle when we
Speaker 1: was talking about Lurena earlier. The other piece was, Um,
Speaker 1: there are a plethora of musicians writers who wrote on
Speaker 1: that album that didn't get credits for it. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of things that say written by Lauren Hill
Speaker 1: that were not written by Lauren Hill. Um. What I'm
Speaker 1: fine with if you just get the credit where its due,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because musicians and producers eat
Speaker 1: off of that. If they if you if you produced
Speaker 1: a song on the Miseducation album. If you produce a
Speaker 1: song on the Miseducation album, um, you're set to work
Speaker 1: for years to come. It's like somebody who it's like
Speaker 1: somebody who produced a song on Thriller or something, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like you're set. So those credits
Speaker 1: mean something, you know. So if you take credit from someone,
Speaker 1: sometimes that's all they have is the credit, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And to be a great artist, you
Speaker 1: don't have to write. You don't have to write and
Speaker 1: produce everything. Michael didn't write and produce everything whenn't Houston
Speaker 1: did write and produce everything, But just give the credit
Speaker 1: where it's dude. That's where I had a problem because
Speaker 1: some of those people were my personal friends. They had
Speaker 1: a lawsuit and she lost. There was a lawsuit. Some
Speaker 1: people actually have to have the balls to sewer, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But there are some people who
Speaker 1: I know, we're just friends with her and felt bad
Speaker 1: if they didn't want to sew her. But there are
Speaker 1: people who suit her that these two producer guys did
Speaker 1: it for like like four million. You can literally google it.
Speaker 1: Calm Calm is something though, because her success has never
Speaker 1: been to the since after. You can't you can't do
Speaker 1: people dirty, especially when they come to money, because money
Speaker 1: come and go absolutely. And then if you think about
Speaker 1: it too, My thing is if you do a record
Speaker 1: like that, and if you did do everything like it, says,
Speaker 1: if you didn't really write all that, where's the next one?
Speaker 1: Where's the next one? Where's the next one? Even close?
Speaker 1: She did the TV un blood thing that wasn't close
Speaker 1: at all, you know what I mean, like, where's the
Speaker 1: next album? If if that's what if if you did
Speaker 1: all that stuff, where's the next one? And that's and
Speaker 1: their lives the problem, you know what I mean? What's
Speaker 1: next for you? But says being daddy, how many babies
Speaker 1: you got? You got? You got a son? You have
Speaker 1: a son and a daughter? Yeah, yeah, I got son
Speaker 1: and daughter. Uh Riley he's twelve, he's about to be thirteen.
Speaker 1: And and Lola she's one. Right, Oh, she's so high,
Speaker 1: she's beautiful. So I have a story, right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put myself out there because I know, Robber, you don't
Speaker 1: want to tell it anyone. You know what she's thinking
Speaker 1: in her head? Oh that's a man, I can tell.
Speaker 1: I can hear what she's saying. Oh, I could read
Speaker 1: a man. She said, that's the man that's little. I'll
Speaker 1: fight you, little girl. You better go. So I do
Speaker 1: have a funny story that I will share. Is that
Speaker 1: So I was the first person to ever baby sit Riley,
Speaker 1: my baby cousin. Right, I was the first person to
Speaker 1: every baby. So Riley would cry a lot right while
Speaker 1: I was baby sit him. And the only thing that
Speaker 1: would get him to stop crying as if I saying
Speaker 1: red Light Special by TLC to him. Mind you and
Speaker 1: I can't sing, and I can't say, but it works
Speaker 1: to a newborn. I was seeing red Light Special to
Speaker 1: a newborn. But that's how I got He ever make
Speaker 1: it to a strip club, we'll here about one and
Speaker 1: they put that on. Whoever doing nothing now, But she's
Speaker 1: gonna get all here. It traveled with you over over
Speaker 1: the years. He gonna have all that. Remember who I
Speaker 1: love that? So I remember my Auntie thinking that. So
Speaker 1: Pandemic basically kind of shifted some of what you had
Speaker 1: going on. So you're basically scoring music now like you
Speaker 1: did the photograph which was with Easter Ray, And I
Speaker 1: know you just scored something with Dave's Chapel. So how
Speaker 1: are you liking that? And how is that different kind
Speaker 1: of from what you've been doing? I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It allows me to be home, you know. It's a way,
Speaker 1: it's a way that you know, make money and not
Speaker 1: have to leave the house. But I've always even before
Speaker 1: I started scoring, everyone's always said my whole career, like
Speaker 1: your music is so cinematic, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you should you should score movies. So once I got that,
Speaker 1: once I got the opportunity. My first opportunity in the
Speaker 1: real way was with um don c though for that
Speaker 1: Miles David's movie, UM Miles Ahead, and and then from
Speaker 1: there once I moved out here during the past mic
Speaker 1: it kind of started snowballing because I also scored um
Speaker 1: this series car Bro that's on starts and then Run
Speaker 1: the World. Oh that's the new one with is that
Speaker 1: the Vivocado point appreci Yeah? Yeah, yeah, she had a
Speaker 1: pretty girl too, yeah, and um yeah. So it's been
Speaker 1: snowball and into into more things and we got I
Speaker 1: got a movie on the on the on the line happening,
Speaker 1: and a few more, a few more series, you know,
Speaker 1: So it's it's been great. It's been great with Riley.
Speaker 1: I was on the world all the time. Ye remember,
Speaker 1: I missed a little little milestones with Riley. You know,
Speaker 1: I will come back home and be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's walking, he's running. Do you miss do you
Speaker 1: miss live theater? Do you miss the stage in the audience? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: So I did a few shows. I did a few
Speaker 1: shows like last weekend and and I did some shows
Speaker 1: in New York and June at the who know, and
Speaker 1: it was amazing. But then you really, really, you really
Speaker 1: realize how much you missed the audience, how much you
Speaker 1: missed the people when you play. Because I've been doing
Speaker 1: all this streaming stuff during Quarantine, doing Screaming Show, I
Speaker 1: did a lot with with Common, you know, doing just
Speaker 1: streaming things, and it's not the same at all. That
Speaker 1: energy is gone, it's missing. You know, I'm gonna drop
Speaker 1: a little plug because, um, I know, you're doing a
Speaker 1: residency at the Blue Note in New York City and
Speaker 1: you're like the third artist to ever be able to
Speaker 1: do this. So the dates are like October one through
Speaker 1: November nine, right October one, I think November seven, so
Speaker 1: we're actually about I already already dropped something, saying I'm
Speaker 1: doing it, but now I think later today we're gonna
Speaker 1: drop what I'm doing each week? Right, Who's special guests?
Speaker 1: Get special guests too? Yeah, that's what I do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that every every time. So that was like different, yes,
Speaker 1: different weeks. Really like every week. I break it up
Speaker 1: in two. What do you want? Wants to be in
Speaker 1: the cameras? Let my cousin in the camera. What's the
Speaker 1: kid network? What's the Kids Network? Baby Nickelodeon? She says
Speaker 1: she needs her part on TV. She ain't playing with you, Rob.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, which which artists would
Speaker 1: you would you be your dream artist to work with?
Speaker 1: Now that's relevant. Now, who haven't you worked with? Is
Speaker 1: a better question? That you would like to actually in
Speaker 1: the studio together. A matter of fact, he just asked
Speaker 1: me personally the other day, Stevie, wonder, wow, that would
Speaker 1: be dope. I think that. I think that cancer benefit
Speaker 1: with Common um stand Up for Cancer a few days ago,
Speaker 1: and Stevie was our specially guest. It's a song I
Speaker 1: wrote um Stevie played harmonica on it on the recording.
Speaker 1: And then there's another song that I wrote for Common
Speaker 1: called black America. Again, he sung. He sung on the
Speaker 1: end of it, but I wasn't there when he sung,
Speaker 1: so I've never got the chance to really collapse read
Speaker 1: with him, you know what I mean? Like, do you
Speaker 1: wanna come up with something? Definitely that's gonna be let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. Stevie Wonder is. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's such a phenomenon. But you know what I love
Speaker 1: about Stevie's music, like, don't you worry about the thing?
Speaker 1: And um at the end when they're doing that jam session,
Speaker 1: it is a jam session that I'm like, I wish
Speaker 1: I could have been sitting in on that because they
Speaker 1: let it fade out, but you know, they went on
Speaker 1: for about twenty more minutes at least for sure. Definitely,
Speaker 1: that's the same thing with you know, um to digress.
Speaker 1: How does it feel? Yeah, you know how it cuts
Speaker 1: off at the end. Yeah, that's because they ran out
Speaker 1: of tape. Well, let me be honest with that video.
Speaker 1: I broke about four TVs trying to look down. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna be honest. That was Hotel TVs, but they
Speaker 1: were still TVs. I was trying to look down in there.
Speaker 1: I couldn't see and I might as well just ask
Speaker 1: you because somebody in the comments just brought up Maxwell.
Speaker 1: So I actually got to see some of you like
Speaker 1: you were his musical director for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: So how was that experience? It was great. Actually, Derek
Speaker 1: Hives was the music director Maxwell just had. It was
Speaker 1: it was like my band. The band that was my
Speaker 1: experiment band at the time was Chris Dave. Derek had me.
Speaker 1: So I was playing piano, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And that was like four years or two thousand nine
Speaker 1: to two thousand, you know what I mean. It was great, amazing,
Speaker 1: that was that was a really good time, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Because it was It was great for
Speaker 1: R and B. Maxwell came back, the songs were dope,
Speaker 1: and musicians were excited to see us play with Maxwell. Normally,
Speaker 1: you go to Maxwell shows, it's ninety nine percent woman.
Speaker 1: If that's a guy there, he took a woman. There's
Speaker 1: a guy that he is a woman, all right, right exactly,
Speaker 1: it was still ninety now that you know now the
Speaker 1: other guy. Other people are coming just to see the music,
Speaker 1: aren't like the musicians play. It was still not the
Speaker 1: eight point five All Women, the best tour I've ever
Speaker 1: been on in my life. It was now you said
Speaker 1: you started with gospel. Have you ever worked with a
Speaker 1: gospel artist now that's rather than down to do or
Speaker 1: would you like to go back and work with the
Speaker 1: gospel artists since you was started in gospel music as
Speaker 1: a piano player. Yeah, I mean I'm gonna, I'm i'm um.
Speaker 1: One of my boys, Jonathan McReynolds. You know Jonathan, I
Speaker 1: know Jonathan Butler. I don't know that. I don't know mcgolds. No,
Speaker 1: I know Jonathan Butler. I know Jonathan Butler. Yeah, falling
Speaker 1: in love with Oh, I love that song very sounds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think I'm gonna definitely do something with Jonathan
Speaker 1: mcgrendall's at some point. I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: gospel hours. I would love to work for John p.
Speaker 1: Keys on one of my albums. You can make me
Speaker 1: fair for me Lola one of the fans, one of flamemates.
Speaker 1: Want to know have you ever worked with Sean Patterson
Speaker 1: ras Sean passion has a beautiful voice too. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's a big can sing his face on. I never
Speaker 1: worked with him, but I'm sure I will at some point,
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure. Right. Another thing I want to
Speaker 1: ask you to Um, your Emmy that you won with
Speaker 1: Common for doing the Thirteenth with Aba Duferne. How special
Speaker 1: was that to you? And just what was that? Like?
Speaker 1: That was amazing. You know, as a musician, you really
Speaker 1: don't think outside of Grammy kind of thought, like Grammy
Speaker 1: is kind of only what you kind of aimed for
Speaker 1: if you aim for anything as far as the award goes.
Speaker 1: So they get it in me, it kind of opened my.
Speaker 1: It kind of like got me outside of the box, like,
Speaker 1: oh wait a minute, I could do more things, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And so that was that was
Speaker 1: That was That was amazing. That was I was. I
Speaker 1: was in Europe um literally about to walk on stage
Speaker 1: for a show, and Eva du Rene texted me congratulations
Speaker 1: on your Emmy nomination and I was like, wow, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like, oh my gosh, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it was that that that
Speaker 1: was that was That was a good one. And speaking
Speaker 1: of expanding the career, didn't you just do a couple
Speaker 1: of acting debuts and a couple of different things I
Speaker 1: have I'm out on the streets. Um Yeah I did,
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, so I did. I played a little part
Speaker 1: in Nertha documentary in the in the Aretha series with
Speaker 1: the one I played. I played a piano player in
Speaker 1: Art Tatum, who was a blind piano player that used
Speaker 1: to go over to her house and her dad had
Speaker 1: those parties and used to go there and play with
Speaker 1: Dina Washington, all kinds of people Art Tatum is. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's the king. You have class room. You ain't had
Speaker 1: that beard either. Yeah. I looked like Stephen A. Smith
Speaker 1: for a minute. My hairline was all back, and then
Speaker 1: I just did uh. I did a few episodes of
Speaker 1: Black Monday with Don Cheeto. Um. He hit me up like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got this little party if you wanted, and he's
Speaker 1: trying to do some acting. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll do it. You know what I mean, what are
Speaker 1: you saying? She's saying she wants her camera tan camera now,
Speaker 1: as long as you go ahead and can focus. She good. See,
Speaker 1: we see, we see you love the girl. You beautiful.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that hit, Oh my god, the eyes,
Speaker 1: Oh my girl. You better stop it, girl, I see
Speaker 1: it already, the little boys already at the dough. Don't
Speaker 1: say that. I'm trying to read some of these comments too,
Speaker 1: because people have a lot of questions for you Rob, So,
Speaker 1: how was your collaboration on Butterfly between you and Balao? Oh?
Speaker 1: That was dope. That that actually, um, yeah, the Butterfly
Speaker 1: song before we played it, because if you listen to
Speaker 1: the song, there's a lot of outside like ambience, like
Speaker 1: artists going and buying this this. So we took a
Speaker 1: microphone from the studio and walked around the block just
Speaker 1: to pick up the sounds of the city. And we
Speaker 1: do we do you want to do one? I know
Speaker 1: you can go and you can get it. You know,
Speaker 1: you can go on. You can get sounds of the
Speaker 1: city from anywhere. You can download them, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But we wanted to have a real sound
Speaker 1: of the city where we were, so we walked them.
Speaker 1: I can't wait, I can't wait. We walked around with
Speaker 1: a microphone and then we recorded on top of that,
Speaker 1: on top of the sounds of the city, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So, and I believe it was like
Speaker 1: one one take this one time round, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So it was special, a lot of a lot.
Speaker 1: He's my favorite artist in general, like to work with
Speaker 1: and just as talent and how Dobe is you know,
Speaker 1: And I've been collaborative without you since we got to college,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So he's definitely one of
Speaker 1: the most underrated and dopest artists. That's a great compliment.
Speaker 1: See this forever since Rob literally changes the energy in
Speaker 1: every room. Love it, Bro. They love you. Love it Bro,
Speaker 1: Love it Bro. They want to know about the collaboration
Speaker 1: with you and Esperanza Spalding. Oh um on her Oh
Speaker 1: I did something over with her on her seven. She
Speaker 1: has a project seven seven seven that was like she
Speaker 1: did like a whole album on Facebook Live and it
Speaker 1: was like literally three days straight and you got to
Speaker 1: watch her collaborate with these people and watch her write
Speaker 1: the songs in real time. Longen, you have such a
Speaker 1: talented family. I didn't know. I was just all this talent.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing the mom um. It's town that dad is.
Speaker 1: Oh my God, so many towns people. You know what, Rob,
Speaker 1: you know what I know. I'm going back to gospel
Speaker 1: because you said you started off with God. You know
Speaker 1: who I would love to see you collaborate and bring
Speaker 1: her out of retirement. Who is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: gospels is Tremaine Hawkins. Let me tell Tremaine came in
Speaker 1: right before um yellin the Adams became this superstar, but
Speaker 1: Tremaine set it up for for l Adams, Tremaine was
Speaker 1: dynamite and still is probably dynamite. I would love to
Speaker 1: see somebody do something with her. The whole Hawkings family
Speaker 1: is yeah, yeah, it's it's just it's crazy. No, but
Speaker 1: she's amaze a matter of fact, Am I wrong? I
Speaker 1: feel like, tell me if I'm wrong? Didn't she sing that?
Speaker 1: I might be wrong? I think that was Vanessa bell Armstrong.
Speaker 1: Who's something the amen? Oh the I don't know who's
Speaker 1: saying I'm a heathen. I'm not a good person to
Speaker 1: ask that what that was? That was Vanessa Bael? That
Speaker 1: was That was Vael. That wasn't Tremaine. But no, but
Speaker 1: she's from my hometown. I absolutely adore Landa. But before
Speaker 1: Yolanda hit a lot of people forget about Tremaine, Tremaine
Speaker 1: was the gospel for her. Shirley c I still love
Speaker 1: Shirley Seesar too, But it looked like Yolanda got all
Speaker 1: the sham, all the start them, all the big fame
Speaker 1: for the name. But before her was child Tremaye Hankers,
Speaker 1: Trema Hankers was everywhere. Shirley like she never ages. She
Speaker 1: just she was old when she first started. And one
Speaker 1: is she about too, honey? I know he we look
Speaker 1: at the early showy season videos, she looks like she
Speaker 1: does now. That is funny, as he were just joking, girl,
Speaker 1: I love you. It's amazing. It's amazing. Like she just
Speaker 1: don't she don't age. She's just like, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna I'm gonna start off at this
Speaker 1: age and I'm gonna stay there. So let me ask
Speaker 1: you too. I know you kind of like talked about
Speaker 1: it a little bit before when you and I were together,
Speaker 1: but Dave Chappelle like just literally Dave came to the
Speaker 1: Blue Note, you had Chris Rock come out and like
Speaker 1: he basically emceed your show for you, and you were
Speaker 1: just talking about how it was interesting to look at
Speaker 1: their creative processes in real time. So can you like
Speaker 1: kind of touch on that a little bit because I
Speaker 1: thought it was amazing to hear you talk about Yeah,
Speaker 1: So Dave behind backstage of the Roots show, I was
Speaker 1: playing with the Roots, I don't know, probably like old
Speaker 1: something oh five or something, and Dave was there and
Speaker 1: he asked me to help him play around Midnight The
Speaker 1: Lonest month too, So I gave him to less play
Speaker 1: round midnight. That's how we started. Every time I was
Speaker 1: seeing they were happily at Agano somewhere backstage, I would
Speaker 1: help you to figure some stuff around midnight, and we
Speaker 1: just became cool. So now everything after my residency is
Speaker 1: like the last time I didn't Regency, he came out,
Speaker 1: he brought to Yeah, he brought. Now he brought, I mean,
Speaker 1: he brought Sarah Silverman. Now he brought. I mean everybody came.
Speaker 1: You know. It was right after he won that award,
Speaker 1: the the Tom Sawyer Uh Comedy Award. UM. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, now man, it's just a thing. Man.
Speaker 1: He just loves the music and and we have such
Speaker 1: a good a good report. You know. That's my bro.
Speaker 1: So now whenever I play, you know, and in the
Speaker 1: Vicinity or not even the just making his business to
Speaker 1: fly out. Wait, you gotta you want to say how
Speaker 1: he showed up to your show with Susan Surrandon, just
Speaker 1: just casually. That's now. Yeah. In June. In June, UM
Speaker 1: the UM they debuted the documentary Dave's Documentary, UM that
Speaker 1: I just scored it. Um. It closed the Tribeca Film
Speaker 1: festival and and they did that Radio City Music Hall,
Speaker 1: the radio scene. He's gonna open back up so Dad
Speaker 1: could do to show his film there. And um so
Speaker 1: that week was trying to make a film festival. The
Speaker 1: same week I was in New York. So Dave came
Speaker 1: by like a few nights and like yeah, like you said,
Speaker 1: you know, Chris came by with him a few times.
Speaker 1: They opened up like just one night. One night they
Speaker 1: at the garden as Square Garden with the food fighters.
Speaker 1: Brought them to my show after you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: went to the brand and that was that night. You
Speaker 1: never know who's gonna be for days. Anybody loves it.
Speaker 1: I am so looking forward to working with him and
Speaker 1: meeting him one day very soon. He knows who he's
Speaker 1: been talking to Ida Aboutrikas about me, So I'm hoping
Speaker 1: that he Dave called me. I'm ready, ready, I'm ready,
Speaker 1: trust me, I'm ready. And he's such a nice, just
Speaker 1: a dope dude man. Like for Mother's Day. Look, it
Speaker 1: was Mother's Day was Sunday in May. We were here Friday,
Speaker 1: and he I talked today Friday night and he was like,
Speaker 1: what a y'all doing Mother's Day? I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're just here. We probably go up the street half
Speaker 1: some food, Like no, you're gonna come, no how and
Speaker 1: you're gonna private jet and pick me a little ung
Speaker 1: gg up. And lewis to Ohio to have Mother's Day
Speaker 1: dinner at his crazy and a mother's day. This is
Speaker 1: a awful don't happen, you know? And and uh and
Speaker 1: in in in that documentary, like I was saying, I
Speaker 1: was telling Lauren, like, you got a chance to see
Speaker 1: so many artists, including stand up comedians and everything kind
Speaker 1: of struggle to get their flitting because they haven't performed
Speaker 1: it so long because of COVID, you know, and if
Speaker 1: so inspiring these amazing people like do that, like you know,
Speaker 1: just like get up there, Like even Chris Rock was
Speaker 1: up there like this. And the dope thing is about
Speaker 1: all these people. They're super fearless and some of it
Speaker 1: wasn't funny, and some of it started to be funny.
Speaker 1: But you can even see the comedians like, man, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm working it out, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 1: was inspiring to see people at that level still have
Speaker 1: to work stuff out. You know. Let me let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question, right because you're to me like,
Speaker 1: right in the middle of the old school and the
Speaker 1: new school, which which music, John Brod, do you like
Speaker 1: the best? Not? And I'm not talking about jazz alb.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the old school music versus the newer
Speaker 1: stuff that's out now, because I think the newer stuff
Speaker 1: that's out now, this is my opinion, is promoting not
Speaker 1: love and affection. And it's kind of grab about a hair,
Speaker 1: throw it down the stairs, put up on the airplane.
Speaker 1: You know that. Don't do nothing to me. That's not
Speaker 1: a turn on. Um No, I think I think, you know.
Speaker 1: I think it's the it's the it's the it's it's
Speaker 1: it's history. It's what history is supposed to do. Music
Speaker 1: comes around, your parents are playing their music. You're like,
Speaker 1: oh that's for old You start playing your music and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you don't know none about music back
Speaker 1: in my day, you know. So I respect that the
Speaker 1: music is changing, and I know that I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: like all of it. But I'm not supposed I'm not
Speaker 1: supposed to be the messages in the music. Sometimes the messages,
Speaker 1: the messages, most of the messages are missing about are
Speaker 1: are missing loves? You know what I mean? They aren't
Speaker 1: missing the positive things about it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: For sure? For sure, Also because I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: after you know, after a certain era, live musicians in
Speaker 1: the studio stop being a thing. People started making music
Speaker 1: on their iPhone, you know what I mean. So when
Speaker 1: you stop, when you don't have when you can make
Speaker 1: music that fast on your iPhone, it stops being about
Speaker 1: it stops being most of the time, not everyone, but
Speaker 1: most of the time, it stops being about the music.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of just about what idea cannot put
Speaker 1: out there that everybody else is gonna grab onto and love.
Speaker 1: So everybody's kind of pickyback. Not everybody else. What's cool.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna do what everybody else
Speaker 1: is doing. Nobody's being an artist because they really want
Speaker 1: to be an artist. Not nobody. Some people are, but
Speaker 1: most of them, what I see, they're not. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna remember them next year, like you know, it's like
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter for a lot of people. But but again,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying all your music is like terrible because
Speaker 1: I'm an older guy, you know what I mean, So
Speaker 1: I respect that that's what it is now, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean something, but I like, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, but a lot of it I don't so
Speaker 1: really quick because we're almost at our hour. What are
Speaker 1: some upcoming projects that you can talk about? I know
Speaker 1: you said that, like Stevie Wonders like personally reached out
Speaker 1: to you to work on some things. And what other
Speaker 1: projects do you have coming up? Because people are in
Speaker 1: the comments impressed by Black Radio three. Just just letting
Speaker 1: you know, so that's happening, that's definitely happening. I've already
Speaker 1: I've argue I'm done with Black Radio three. Yeah alright,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't say who's on it yet because
Speaker 1: I don't have all the t's crossing eyes dot it yet.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. She wants to be honest.
Speaker 1: She she needs the part of that. She just your daughter.
Speaker 1: She just don't you hear talk And that's what she's saying,
Speaker 1: the baby talk don't forget about me on the album?
Speaker 1: How How was it working with um with Don Cheetah?
Speaker 1: I love Don Cheeto. I've never met him, but my
Speaker 1: favorite movie he ever did was talk to Me. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I love him and talk to me. That
Speaker 1: is that's me to me. I'm Pete Green. I'm Pete
Speaker 1: Green with titties, but I love him and talk to
Speaker 1: me look with most We did a whole with most
Speaker 1: depths back in when you talk to Me came out.
Speaker 1: We did a whole like concert based on Pete Green
Speaker 1: with most depth and using that down Cheeto movie and
Speaker 1: using some clips from that, and we called it the Watermelon.
Speaker 1: We called it, though I forget, like the watermelon something
Speaker 1: something about the watermelon. Pete Green was describing how you
Speaker 1: put a little salt on the water and the whole thing. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: but do dot amazing. He's one of my favorite actors
Speaker 1: and a good friend, good dude. Question musician too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got a full scholarship to college for like vocal
Speaker 1: jazz and and saxophone. Ask that question. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: take this last question from the comments whout people. Someone asked,
Speaker 1: how do you pick a band when there are so
Speaker 1: many great musicians that you know? Um, Well, the bands
Speaker 1: I have I kind of just let the sorry, I
Speaker 1: kind of I let the universe kind of do what
Speaker 1: it does. You know what I mean? Um, the guys
Speaker 1: that the guys that I can sit are in my
Speaker 1: band are people that I have kind of been around
Speaker 1: for years somehow, So like, for instance, Derek Hodges, my
Speaker 1: bass player, I met him in two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: Once you meet somebody and they played the way they
Speaker 1: do and the musicality at a certain level and their
Speaker 1: person is a certain level. I hold on to those
Speaker 1: people and as much as I can, if I work
Speaker 1: enough to where you don't have to work with anybody else, cool,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But then it's like even
Speaker 1: and Chris Dave one of those guys too, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then it's like they get to
Speaker 1: a certain platform and out there off on their own
Speaker 1: with their own bands, which is amazing. So then it's
Speaker 1: like we get to play in spots when we can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then I love the loyalty. I like that too.
Speaker 1: I like when I get familiar. I'm stuck with a person.
Speaker 1: You know me, We know each other, you know, even
Speaker 1: if it's a riff, we already know each other, so
Speaker 1: we know we can fix it. Well. I will say,
Speaker 1: part of the music is what's off the stage for me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If I have a good
Speaker 1: report with you off the stage, it feats the music
Speaker 1: and it makes it that much better. Well, what I
Speaker 1: will say to the add to that is what Rob,
Speaker 1: But I think it's so like special about you, is
Speaker 1: you really want your people to catapult and to like
Speaker 1: step away from you at one point and do their
Speaker 1: own thing, like you encourage that, you know. I remember
Speaker 1: you had somebody that was like your lead singer, and
Speaker 1: you're like, why aren't you doing your own things? Like
Speaker 1: this is like get out of my band, go do
Speaker 1: something else, you know what I mean. So I think
Speaker 1: I think that that's just so special about you because
Speaker 1: everybody doesn't feel that way. People don't want, you know,
Speaker 1: others to succeed, and you do, you know, So that's
Speaker 1: just why you're so special. Yeah, I think it's important.
Speaker 1: I think it's important to do that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It keeps the music alive. You know, we'll Rob.
Speaker 1: I want to say this because Lord's gonna close out
Speaker 1: the show. I got a two o'clock zoom meaning that
Speaker 1: I have to make. It was a pleasure talking with you.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, if you weren't a musician,
Speaker 1: you could damn show be a comedian because you're funny
Speaker 1: as hell. Oh, you know what you gotta do before
Speaker 1: we close out? Rob, you gotta do a quick freestyle.
Speaker 1: People in the comments that that when we first started
Speaker 1: the show, So come on, hit one, you need to
Speaker 1: beat what come on? We gotta Oh damn okay boom
Speaker 1: boom Wait wait, wait a minute, I had went way back. Okay,
Speaker 1: ready boom bump boomp, bump bump bump. Yeah, boom boomp.
Speaker 1: Look I take freestyle than free uh because you got
Speaker 1: to pay me boom. My name the E R T.
Speaker 1: And I'm wrapping you feel me. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: take this last because I'm laughing at lower lamping. I
Speaker 1: love you so much, Rob, Thank you on the show.
Speaker 1: Thank you. We're gonna hang out. We're gonna hang and
Speaker 1: make sure we hang out long for sure. For sure,
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to me to you and thank you
Speaker 1: for doing the show for with us today you and
Speaker 1: Loland on us. Forget LOLd of Sheep at the time,
Speaker 1: Lolo might be in the title of the show, to
Speaker 1: be honest. Where can they follow Rob it? Oh? So
Speaker 1: you can follow Rob obviously at Robert Glassfer on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Like y'all heard Rob said he's black Radio three is
Speaker 1: and done any other thing out you want to promote
Speaker 1: Rob before we ring Off jects nothing. I can actually
Speaker 1: say everything else like I know that would tell me
Speaker 1: that again because my big man fans always telling something.
Speaker 1: She yes, flamed us talk a lot, so yeah, but
Speaker 1: just be on the lookout to say the least. You know.
Speaker 1: Robert's got a lot of projects coming up. So thank you.
Speaker 1: I love you so much. Thank you, and thank you
Speaker 1: for being such our hands on dad. I appreciate that
Speaker 1: more than anything else. We need great black fathers in
Speaker 1: this world. We need to see more black representation of
Speaker 1: black dads that love their children unconditionally different ways. But
Speaker 1: thank you for that. I'm looking. I'm already late for me.
Speaker 1: Before we close our way, Lauren, before we close out,
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