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Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, to show that takes

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment,

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Speaker 2: Start with headline news and then journey to.

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Speaker 1: Deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented

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Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host, Marceau s Wally

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Speaker 1: that dude, Oh say, can you see I swear nobody

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Speaker 1: knows every single word properly, even the people that do

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Speaker 1: the national anthem, they be reading the damn prompter.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, how y'all feeling on this holiday right here?

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Speaker 2: Happy fourth of July?

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Speaker 1: Oh say, I ain't gonna finish it all right, man,

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Speaker 1: I know y'all feeling good out there. Want to hurry

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Speaker 1: up and get to that barbecue. Hurry up and jump

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Speaker 1: ready for some fireworks. So let's get right into the show.

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Speaker 1: But first, always got to thank you guys for the love,

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Speaker 1: especially your Wally World members out there on youto who

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Speaker 1: trying to win this Friday swag away book. She boy,

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Speaker 1: Marsauce Wally my opinions right here on the journey from

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Speaker 2: Call me right here. It's all that and more.

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Speaker 1: In this book. Hopefully you can win it on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Swag away. Well, first, let's get into how we start

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Speaker 1: off every show with what's up with that dude? Well,

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Speaker 1: yesterday I went to my spot and if you know

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Speaker 2: And if you don't know where.

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Speaker 1: My spot is, I'm not gonna tell you because your

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Speaker 1: spot in La so beautiful, so private, so trunk, and

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Speaker 1: really there. Loved that spot. Well, I had a meeting

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Speaker 1: yesterday with an event planner. What are we planning foundation events?

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Speaker 1: But we don't call them foundation events?

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Speaker 1: We call them drums fun dation events. Ah.

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Speaker 2: You know why, because there's these big carnivals.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have pickleball, We're gonna be watching the games,

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Speaker 1: You are codes everywhere where you could just donate and

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Speaker 1: Other than that, I can tell you what didn't go well?

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Speaker 1: My daughter's back home. So yes, I am so thankful

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Speaker 1: But the process didn't go so well. So my daughter

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Speaker 1: All Love and the Wiley Crib right now, All right,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about where there's not all love at HBO

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Speaker 1: Game Theory debuted in twenty twenty two, first airing after

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Speaker 2: God dang it.

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Speaker 2: had his signature.

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Speaker 1: Voice and always wanted to stick with his signature voice,

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Speaker 1: and that made him have to leave because they weren't

441
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Speaker 1: trying to listen to his voice. Matter of fact, try

442
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Speaker 1: to muzzle it. And another thing that's interesting about it

443
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Speaker 1: is your time. Like you start to realize you only

444
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 1: have so much time, So are you gonna dedicate it

445
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: to them or are you gonna dedicate it to yourself

446
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Speaker 1: first and priority. When we're mutually aligned, Oh, this works,

447
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: this is all good. But as soon as you feel

448
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Speaker 1: that diversion, soon as you feel that fork in the

449
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: role and you went two different directions, your time becomes

450
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Speaker 1: essential because that's the only thing that's gonna really give

451
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Speaker 1: you the opportunity to do what you want to do.

452
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Speaker 1: So I had to go through that random model in

453
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Speaker 1: my home about how much time am I gonna lose

454
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Speaker 1: if I continue to chase these checks from them, which

455
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Speaker 1: would include travel, which will include engagements, which would a

456
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: lot of things that I didn't want to sign up for,

457
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: but I did sign up to take care of my family.

458
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Speaker 2: You get this whole bizarro world.

459
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Speaker 1: Well, Dan Lebatar broke that down incredibly and I still

460
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,479
Speaker 1: watch his show and he's still out there killing it.

461
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Speaker 1: So what do you guys think about all this situation?

462
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Speaker 2: Huh?

463
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Speaker 1: You agree with Dan that there's a consolation in freedom

464
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Speaker 1: from the establishment and the fact that do you think

465
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: that ESPN muzzles is talent? And if you do give

466
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Speaker 1: me some examples, I want to know, thank you for.

467
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: All that love. Look at that heartbeat right there, that's

468
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Speaker 2: from y'all.

469
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Speaker 1: That's for y'all, right there, for supporting this show, never

470
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Speaker 1: shut up and this book right here.

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Speaker 2: Friday swagg Away.

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Speaker 1: To a Lucky Why Least World member, and one of

473
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Speaker 1: the perks of being a Wife's World members not just

474
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Speaker 1: say you're eligible for the Friday swag Away, but also

475
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Speaker 1: we read your comments on this show, and I comment

476
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Speaker 1: on your comments. So let's go from yesterday's show. We

477
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Speaker 1: got Damian Lillard in the trade request, we got Frank

478
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: A talking about it. He said, it's about Dame time.

479
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: Dane should have left Portland. Where the heck is that anywhere?

480
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: Years ago?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

482
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Speaker 1: I totally disagree with that. We have all been rigged.

483
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Speaker 1: We have all been hijacked. And how we look at

484
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: sports now where it's a zero some game either you

485
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: win it all or what the hell did you do?

486
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what did I do? I did a lot?

487
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Speaker 1: Don't believe me, asked Joannis. Remember that postgame speech he

488
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Speaker 1: gave about the process, And I think that we got

489
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Speaker 1: to get back to appreciating that process. One, let me

490
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Speaker 1: get corny, because that's what you're gonna teach your kids. Two,

491
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Speaker 1: that's how we learned it. But now we're in a

492
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Speaker 1: different world where we're letting shock Jock tell us all

493
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Speaker 1: this team sucks why because they got second in the

494
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Speaker 1: entire NBA.

495
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Speaker 2: All this team sucks?

496
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Speaker 1: Why because they're rebuilding but they still made the playoffs.

497
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Speaker 1: Like we are losing our objective understanding of what sports

498
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Speaker 1: really is just because we're waiting for one team to

499
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Speaker 1: win it all and then even when they win it

500
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Speaker 1: all like Denver, we take shots at them or don't

501
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: even give them their full coverage and shine, do y'all

502
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 1: see how we get in all just turned around chasing

503
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Speaker 1: our tails. If you are in this little rat race

504
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: right here, so be careful, y'all. All right, here's my

505
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: man at a Honda m I pushed the civic before too.

506
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: He says, it really just depends how Lillard addresses it

507
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: in the public eye and shows self awareness. Great point,

508
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: especially going to the team that just lost the finals

509
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: Lebron rehauls and tyre rosters. Whenever he switched teams. KD

510
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: tries to diminish his ring chasing with acting like it

511
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Speaker 1: was quote the hardest road to join the Warriors, and

512
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: then later criticizing his Golden State Warrior teammates are trashing Okac.

513
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Speaker 2: Great point.

514
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Speaker 1: He's saying, it's the pr battle that these stars are losing.

515
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Speaker 1: Once they go somewhere else and engage in the ring chase,

516
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Speaker 1: whatever that pursuit is called. That's part of it. But

517
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Speaker 1: I don't give it, damn how much good pr you have.

518
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Speaker 1: As soon as we see you depart one, they're gonna

519
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: burn your jersey where you left two. They're gonna say

520
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: you're not loyal, despite the fact y'all been there for

521
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Speaker 1: eleven years. And it's like, damn, you want me to

522
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: die up in this suckle you' all forget y'all drafted me.

523
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Speaker 2: Oh you want to know what a synonym of draft

524
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: is forced?

525
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Speaker 1: Y'all forced me to come here home, boy, I ain't

526
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Speaker 1: get the chance to choose. And when I had a

527
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Speaker 1: chance to choose, I chose here again. And y'all still upset.

528
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: Shut up, never shut up? All right, So that was

529
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Speaker 1: a good one.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to Michael will Bond's topic right there, and

532
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: we got my man at Michael Bardes he sound wealthy,

533
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: not even rich. Bartise is a last name that sounded

534
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Speaker 1: wealthy to me. He said, I appreciate will Bond's honesty.

535
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: We've all known they weren't journalists for years. He's the

536
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Speaker 1: first one I've ever heard admitted, hey man, like it's crazy.

537
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: Like the self awareness is one thing that he checks

538
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Speaker 1: in that box, because will Bond's a real one. But

539
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: beyond that, just the security to say, yo, I ain't

540
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: doing what I started doing and I'm not doing exactly

541
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: what I want to do. Matter of fact, I'm just

542
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: doing something that I don't even know what it is.

543
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: And I know he has more understanding and compass of it,

544
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: but in frank terms, he like daw we just like

545
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: opinionated pundits now, like, hey, what's the story.

546
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: Let me give an opinion like what I'm doing now.

547
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: Right, But it gotta be merit based or fact based,

548
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: or just stay in touch with reality. And I think

549
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: that's where people really get upset with the industry is

550
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: when it detaches and it just becomes narrative and you

551
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: literally can watch the show in your head before you

552
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: see the show, and then you're like, I already know

553
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: what they gonna say, but they say it in an

554
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: entertaining way. Very interesting, right there. Here's another one from

555
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: a man Blaird. It's all shifted from journalism to pure entertainment.

556
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: But because it's pure entertainment, you don't need actual journalists anymore,

557
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: just loud, entertaining sound by guys.

558
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: Hey, I get it right.

559
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: There is something to that, just the fact that someone

560
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 1: puts an exclamation point at the end of their sentence

561
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: versus a period.

562
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: Right.

563
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: One of the things about me, if I had to

564
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: beat myself up, is I don't have enough exclamation points

565
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: when I talk, and I don't want them, but I

566
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: don't have them, and that would have served me well

567
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 1: in my years of doing this, because if you just

568
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: act like you're right and then more so suggest that

569
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: the other person's wrong and act like you're right, is

570
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: a period suggesting that they're wrong?

571
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 2: Is the exclamation point? What are you talking about? Like that? Now,

572
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: all of a.

573
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: Sudden, you got the other person on the other side

574
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Speaker 1: or the viewer like who else fool thinking is? And

575
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: then you riled up? And that's how you get it

576
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: all amped up. It's a great point, right there. I

577
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: totally get it. Let's talk about the ESPN layoffs where

578
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: Dwayne Lee says, Marcella's broke it all the way down.

579
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Speaker 1: You're damn right, that's what I do. He said, We

580
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: appreciate your honesty. Keep pushing, big dog. They wrote you

581
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: off on their expense report. Look who's laughing now, hmm,

582
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: even though I feeled a compliment in that. And I'll

583
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: appreciate you, big dog, and thank you for being a

584
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: member as well. I learned a long time ago just

585
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: run your race and stay in your lane. And why

586
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: do I stay in my lane, not just because I

587
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: don't see other people competing against me. Some people are

588
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: in front of me, some people behind me. It's because

589
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: it's the most effective and efficient way to run. As

590
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: y'all know, I'm a track runner by heart. I was

591
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: fast as hell when I was little, still fast for

592
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: a big dude. But I was fast, fast for everybody

593
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: when I was little. Right, And I learned that life's

594
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: the competition between you and yourself. And how did I

595
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: learn that and really internalize it by not looking at

596
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: what the homie had? Because the homie had a Turkish link,

597
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: a gold chain, a feel of suit, a five point zero,

598
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: and three pretty girls liking them.

599
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: I ain't have all that.

600
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: But and you know what made me feel good. My

601
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: solace was not that I didn't have. It is the

602
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: fact that I didn't compare mind to his. I felt

603
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: the love from what I had, and I stayed in

604
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: my lane. I stayed in my zone and said, well,

605
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: if you want it, go get it. But guess where

606
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: it is? Not over there, not over there. I'm in

607
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: this lane. It's up there, so go get it. That's

608
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: why so I don't get into like, oh I'm laughing

609
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: at them now, because I'm still trying to grind and

610
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: get mine. But respect to what you're saying right there,

611
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: and they didn't write me off on the response report

612
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: they built this let me stop. All right, here we go.

613
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: Mark McFarland's so proud of you. Marcella's always dropping jewels. Yeah, man,

614
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Speaker 1: that's that's life.

615
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: Man.

616
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: We all got something to give and offer. I just

617
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: wish more of us shared it, he says. Telling the

618
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: people behind the scenes numbers and what's that stake? Oh yeah,

619
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Speaker 1: I always I always laughed at NFL players when I played,

620
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: and really broadcasters, they're worse when they wouldn't tell people.

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Speaker 2: I musa stay made.

622
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: I was like, dog, do you know every year in

623
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: the USA today they put out an article that tells

624
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Speaker 1: everyone's salary.

625
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: Do you know there are websites that tell all of

626
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: our salaries?

627
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: Now, fans viewers, please understand, since you read that, that

628
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: doesn't mean how much he makes in totality, because he

629
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: gets endorsements. He has other offers and entities outside of

630
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: that experience.

631
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: So don't get it twisted.

632
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: Whenever you see somebody's salary or one of those sites

633
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: that says net worth, I will always bet that that

634
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: number is low. When I told you guys how much

635
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: I made, that was how much they paid me. I

636
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: made other money. But that's the point. Do not think

637
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: that these guys are just at that baseline. So I

638
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: never had a problem telling somebody how much I make.

639
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: Just money. You gotta give it back when you're dead anyway,

640
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: who gives it? Damn?

641
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: So you need to open a school or something. Honestly,

642
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: it's a shame that Stephen A. Smith is more popular

643
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: than you and Dominique fox Worth.

644
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: That's right. This is a school.

645
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 1: It's called Never Shut Up University, don't you see it.

646
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: It's the school of thought. Get out the way Wiley

647
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: See told you we got a school up in here.

648
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: We only got one student. All right, let's do it,

649
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: he says. I'm not saying you all better than Steven A. Smith.

650
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: Why not?

651
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: I missed up, But I believe you should all be

652
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: just as popular.

653
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: Keep your daily grind up.

654
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: If you and Max has a YouTube show back in

655
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: the day, you will be bigger than Joe Rogan right now,

656
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: keep going because the sky's the limit for you.

657
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Speaker 2: I love all of that. Yeah, I got a little

658
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: regret coming to YouTube late. That's it.

659
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: And I started really playing around with this in twenty eighteen.

660
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: But if Fox wasn't trying to hear it, and I

661
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: was like, why am I gonna do it? If Fox

662
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: ain't gonna support it? Joy Taylor did that, y'all. Ever

663
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: check out Joy Taylor's podcast. I forget the name of

664
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: it right now. But she was like, I'm ana do

665
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: a podcast. And she did a podcast and didn't get

666
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: supported by Fox. It wasn't one of the Fox podcasts,

667
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: and she stopped doing it. Then she did radio and

668
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: got her chops even better. Now she's on Speak for

669
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: Yourself after doing Colin, so she picked her role.

670
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: But I should have been from Joy.

671
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: I should have did exactly what Joy did, just start

672
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: my own podcast without Fox's support.

673
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: All right.

674
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: The last one here is while these world were talking

675
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: about this, we got another member up in here, my

676
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: man Frank A. Unfortunately, I see the Lakers now much

677
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: like the Dallas Cowboys and sports betting rules is like

678
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: allowing an alcoholic bartender to bartend and expecting the positive outcome.

679
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: You stupid.

680
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's borderline and trap mean, but love

681
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: the music debates Snoop versus Dre is a classic and

682
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: in my opinion, you can't go wrong either way. And

683
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: mister Marcellus, you must if you haven't already published some

684
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: of your music playlists unless there's some FCC BMI DRIM

685
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: what the hell is that royalty stuff involved? And thank

686
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: you for keeping it independent. Love the show, Love you too,

687
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: frank A. I'll share my playlist once we get hydration

688
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 1: situation going, which is gonna be me DJing and talking

689
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: to you guys. And once we get that going, I

690
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: share y'all some playlists because I know some stuff that

691
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: may have slipped through the cracks to some of you

692
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: guys since I've been in the game for so long.

693
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: All right, speaking of so long, watch this transition. Let's

694
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: talk to a member who's been waiting for so long.

695
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: Oh you've been waiting and debating for oh so long,

696
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: just starting like Marvin for a cool JA song. Yes,

697
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: I told you I got rap issues.

698
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: Right. Let's bring on our Hall of Famer right now.

699
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: Adrian, Adrian, talk to your boy, big dog.

700
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: What's stone your chest home? Mad? Okay?

701
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: I gotta ask you questions here for you to transition

702
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: into another smooth question is so, how do you describe

703
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: Tupac's impact on rap music and culture at large.

704
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: Oh God, hold on first, let me dab off, let

705
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: me get let me get my game right. God dang,

706
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: you said two things. You said rap music and culture

707
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: at large. I think his greatest impact to rap music

708
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: was to open your heart up and actually pour out

709
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: how you're really feeling.

710
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: Like not so much how you're living.

711
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: A lot of rappers do that, like how I'm living,

712
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: or they're faking it or they're really telling it.

713
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: I'm talking about how you're feeling. Like.

714
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: His emotional content is maybe the greatest in rap history.

715
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: Like he just took you through like today, I'm happy today,

716
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm sad today, I don't want to be here Tomorrow

717
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: I may not be here, and all of those, And

718
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: let's be honest with each other. The roller coaster of

719
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: emotions that he described in those songs, all of us

720
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: feel to some degree at certain times in our life.

721
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: So that's why I love just being transparent. One you

722
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: can never come up to me and say, gotcha. One

723
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: of the things I'm doing right now is just talking

724
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: about everything openly, because frankly, it's relieving, Frankly is fulfilling,

725
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: Frankly is therapeutic.

726
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: And then more importantly, nobody can say anything to me.

727
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: Have y'all noticed nobody pushing back on anything I say.

728
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 2: You want to know why, cause I ain't lying.

729
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: And on top of that, I'm actually still protecting them.

730
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: Some people thinking I'm up here snitching, I'm like, nah,

731
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm actually reserved. I know way more than I tell y'all.

732
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm just making sure they say it first, or somebody

733
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: else saying that. I'm like, dog, now I got to,

734
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: but I'm never the one to out somebody for what

735
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: I done.

736
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: Seen too much. I know the bodies are buried and

737
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: I ain't there for that.

738
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: So I think his cultural impact is you can do

739
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: it all. So poc actor, you know, he grew up

740
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: an actor.

741
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: Actually you know in.

742
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: Theaters, actor, rapper, you could be everything, gangster, whatever the

743
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: hell that was.

744
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: And I say it like this, focus used to be.

745
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: One thing and stare at it, or I'm a rapper,

746
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm a rapper for me, I'm a football player.

747
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: And then focus shifted.

748
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: Focus became a million things out there, but know how

749
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: to prioritize them, right, So that's what Pop did. He's

750
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: the first like superstar and rap to do that like rapper, actor, spokesman,

751
00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: ladies man.

752
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: Whatever the hell.

753
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: He just had a line item of lists of things

754
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: he became and the next thing, you know, everybody started

755
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: to do that as well.

756
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: That's where his greatest impact.

757
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 3: Do you think he's still lied today?

758
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: Hell nah? Hell nah?

759
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: And I can't lie. It took me like two weeks.

760
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: It took me like two weeks to really say hell no.

761
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: At first I was like, nah, maybe, and then it

762
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: was like, I ain't lied. You know why because mccabelly

763
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: came out. And when mccabelly came out right after he died.

764
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: Boom boom boom.

765
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: When Bob first hit, and I was like, oh no,

766
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: he ain't. No way he did saying what he's saying

767
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: right now. He was saying stuff that didn't happen yet.

768
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: No, what the hell?

769
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: So and then after a while you realize what, our

770
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: technology ain't nowhere to hide dog not like that. But

771
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: that actor that plays them in all those movies, maybe

772
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: that's him again, because that sucker look dead on.

773
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: Pop right about that.

774
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: So my second question is a bit deeper.

775
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 4: How do you find.

776
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: Deeper than that? With that? Dang? All right, let's go.

777
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: Okay, how did you find out what your learning style

778
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: was and how did that that you when you were

779
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: playing football in regards to learning the playbook, watching film,

780
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: et cetera.

781
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, my learning style is I am an intent listener.

782
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: I always say I talk a lot, but I listen more.

783
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: I really do. But I listened to syllables, like to letters,

784
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: not just word like. I'm listening on a microscopic level

785
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: to the point where I'm a literalist, maybe too literal,

786
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: like I'm like, I heard you say that people like dog.

787
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: It was like a figure of speech, or maybe I

788
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: was going somewhere else, but I'm literally intent. So when

789
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: coaches drawing up something, my teacher's drawing up something, y'all

790
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: ain't talking to me in this class.

791
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: I do. Dog, You want to get me mad, talk

792
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: to me. When somebody trying to.

793
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: Teach me something, I will whoop your ass like I

794
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: ain't trying to hear it because you ain't gonna help me.

795
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: They trying to help me. They're trying to expand my

796
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: knowledge base.

797
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there like yeah, yeah, yeah, and then

798
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: I go out there and I practice it.

799
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: But the thing that I do that I think.

800
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: Is unique is I don't judge myself ever in practice.

801
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: Why because it's not a performance.

802
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: The problem with practices nowadays is they're making a performance base, right,

803
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,479
Speaker 1: you better show out the first day of training camp

804
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: or else.

805
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: And I've never been that guy.

806
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: I go to practice knowing what I'm great at and

807
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: what I need to work on, and I start with

808
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: what I need to work on.

809
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: So I'm in practice getting embarrassed.

810
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't great with my swim move at times. Guess

811
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: what I'm doing swim move? Guess what they doing? Blocking

812
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: the hell out of me? Whooping my hands all them

813
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: and down to practice. But guess what I got in

814
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: the game? The sucker was starting to work because I

815
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: worked on it. So I always work on my left

816
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: hand layups. As they say in life, I don't start

817
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: with my all right, got that, damn pat?

818
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: But how does that work if you were practicing what

819
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 3: you were weak at, but also like as a team,

820
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: y'all practicing like defense? What the office are doing? More

821
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 3: like team script? About what team you're preparing for that week?

822
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: Like how do you have time to work on what

823
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: you're week at and also work on the team you're

824
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: preparing for that week?

825
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know.

826
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean naturally the things that you're strong at is

827
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 1: kind of like riding a bike, like you're naturally gonna

828
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: lean into those because one you have greater muscle memory

829
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: there and two you have greater confidence there. Right, But

830
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: if you know anything about high level sports, it's you

831
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: start at playing B. I'm going against another black belt.

832
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: I can't go up to him and just try and

833
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: outstript him, you know, outmaneuver him. I gotta set him up.

834
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: And the only way to set somebody up is to

835
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: have a counter have a balance. And if you don't

836
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: have that balance, he knows what you're gonna do. And

837
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: then you know that that's all you can and do.

838
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: Chess match, loss, check mate, he's gonna get you. So

839
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: plan B I start with because frankly, he's big, he's strong,

840
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: he's fast.

841
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 2: We all right, we're comparable. Now what ah? But does

842
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: he know that every time I go outside?

843
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you blocked that. But now I got the spin.

844
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: Now I got the spin. Now I got to swim

845
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: all those things. So it's a counterbalance at the highest

846
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: level because everybody can do it, like it's just that simple.

847
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: The floor is so high. The only way to touch

848
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: the sky. To touch the ceiling is to make sure

849
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: that you have different bags of tricks. So I had

850
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: to work on my bag of tricks. I didn't have

851
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: a ton of tricks coming from Columbia. I can't lock.

852
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: I was just big and strong and fast and had

853
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: a couple moves. I had to make sure I had

854
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: more than a couple to make sure I was good

855
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: for the games.

856
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 3: And my last question is more fun, more playful. But

857
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: today's work for July than you. And they have the

858
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 3: eating contest every year. Oh man, so what food are

859
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 3: they contest? Do you know that you kill of that?

860
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: Oh good question? All right? What?

861
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, everybody like Courtney in my ear, the

862
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: whole production team like tacos. Duh, like dog, good luck

863
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: to you. On average, I eat ten tacos every time.

864
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: Y'all see me having tacos, and I got my ketchup.

865
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm eating minimum of ten of them, right if I'm

866
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: gonna diet six, I sma.

867
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 2: If I go to.

868
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 1: Taco Bell, you know that whole big old snack pack,

869
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: that twenty four kid or whatever, they have all them

870
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: gorodos locos, I eat all in like I buy the

871
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: box and then you're homie, Like, yo, you'll pass me

872
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: a talker. I was like you in order nothing. I'm like,

873
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: this is all for me food. I'm eating every one

874
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: of these in this row.

875
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

876
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: I am not a fan of the hot dog eating contests,

877
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: and I was watching it the other day because today

878
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: is the finals.

879
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: I guess I saw the semifinals come on.

880
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: Man like I was watching. I was like, am I

881
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: entertained or am I disgusted? Or am I in awe?

882
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: Or how the hell is this so big? Like a

883
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: hot dog is no longer a hot dog?

884
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: When they eat it, they drip it into the water,

885
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: they dunk it in the water.

886
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: They shit when they do that.

887
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, and then they and then Joey Chestnut wins

888
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: every time by far. I'm just not a fan of it.

889
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: But it sounds like I just poot pood on your parade, Adrian.

890
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, brother, because they ain't getting my rating no more.

891
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: I can't watch it anymore.

892
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: Nah, I don't. I don't watch it here, but it's

893
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: a very popular thing that people should watch. I can't

894
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: really watch people inhale hot dogs like that and stuff.

895
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: And I'm getting older. I can't eat like that anyway,

896
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 3: So you know what I'm saying, I can't replicate it.

897
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: Well, we two big dudes, and like we did have

898
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: our day though, like we had a day when we

899
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: both was in there. If I win against you, Adrian,

900
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: ah nah, don't let don't let none of this fool you, Adrian.

901
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: I can't eat, dog. I got a tapeworm somewhere down here.

902
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: I could put them that. What would be your food?

903
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: If you try and challenge me and eating contest?

904
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: Oh, hot wing is easy. I can eat. I can

905
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: eat like twenty and thirty easy, just down there hot wings.

906
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: Whether it's the the what's it called the flat drums,

907
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 3: it don't matter.

908
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can go this slucker got technical, he said,

909
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: the flat wings, he said, the branded.

910
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: Like all that. I appreciate you, Adrian. Yeah, I ain't

911
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: eat no thirty hot wings.

912
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: Now if they playing super crispy with the barbecue sauce

913
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: on the side, I might be a good challenge for you.

914
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, big dog.

915
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: Love and happy fourth for July to you, Adrian. Adrian,

916
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: No lie, Adrian is like the Joey Chestnut of questions,

917
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: Like it ain't even close, like Adrian asked the best

918
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: questions by far. Sorry, Cobra, I love you. You're just funny

919
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: to me. All right, let's bring in Mikey P right now,

920
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: Mikey P is in the building and uh oh, Temple

921
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: football again. Here we go, trying to resurrect the dead.

922
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: Let's go, Mikey fee.

923
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: Well.

924
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: I got to say something first about Adrian over here

925
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: taking my job because that was my topic for the day,

926
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 4: which one.

927
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go.

928
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: Man, Hey, Adrian might need to get hired anymore? No, don't,

929
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: should I just come now?

930
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

931
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: I think adrianbt to like Adrian be better for the

932
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 1: payroll too. He's doing your job. Nah, Mikey we good,

933
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: let's do it.

934
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: Brother. Well, I'm gonna.

935
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: Stick with it because I had some follow up with that.

936
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: So okay, it's currently actually in a weather delay like

937
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 4: they might cancel it from what I'm reading.

938
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: But besides at the.

939
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 4: Well, lightning or whatever, you know, I'm not sure. But

940
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 4: Joey Chestnut is looking for eight straight Mustard belts. Okay,

941
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 4: sixteen titles seventeen years. He's got a record seventy six

942
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 4: hot dogs and bonds in ten minutes. Last year he

943
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 4: had sixty three. The over under is set at seventy

944
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 4: two and a half over or under.

945
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: And do you think he's winning this year? Oh, definitely winning.

946
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: I did watch it like I did watch it the

947
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: other day, and he's winning by far.

948
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: Nobody can compete with him.

949
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: He's not gonna break his record thing last year he

950
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: only had sixty something. He's on decline right now, like

951
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: his stomach. Yeah, his stomach is shrinking right now. So

952
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: he's sixty three, mama, So yeah, I just look. I

953
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: feel like I'm teasing the guy that's playing video games

954
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: in his mom's basement who now is the biggest gamer

955
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: in the world, making one hundred million dollars. Like I know,

956
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: Joey Chess now got more money than me because why

957
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 1: he's a household name. And if you watch the hot

958
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: dog eating contest, all you see are brands behind his ass.

959
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: You see Bounty, you see Nathaniels. Right, You've been seeing

960
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: these big, major brands. I'm like, yo, this dude is winning.

961
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: But it ain't for me though. I just ah.

962
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: And then it'd be like mustard in their eye. It'd

963
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: be like buns on their eyebrows.

964
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 5: They dip the bun in the water like that's disgusting.

965
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 5: It's all soggy and shit like. Oh and I watched too,

966
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 5: I run them seventy two and a half. We run

967
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 5: seventy two and a half. Yeah, I'm going under too.

968
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 4: Maybe the weather impacts so they say the humidity hurts

969
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 4: the body in this case. But I was gonna say, man, like,

970
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 4: I need some intail on whether or not he woke

971
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: up hungry this morning.

972
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: That's the key, as hungry or not. That's a great point.

973
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: I think he gotta find like some equilibrium, some counterbalance,

974
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: like he messed around to be too hungry. You know

975
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: your stomach when you're so hungry, and as soon as

976
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: you eat one thing you full, you be like god, dang,

977
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: you've been waiting all day for something, but you go

978
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: too far in your hunger state.

979
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 2: So I don't know how he does it. And frankly,

980
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: I don't even care who is number two in hot

981
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: dog eating anymore. We lost him. It was it was

982
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: the other guy, and he's gone. I don't even know. Yeah, yeah,

983
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: he's long going, long going.

984
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 4: But actually the training aspects insane here. The training aspect

985
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 4: with these guys do is crazy.

986
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 1: So okay, please please do not talk more hot dog eating?

987
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: Are we we eight minutes in the hot dog eating?

988
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: I gotta press you on this. I gotta press you

989
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: on this.

990
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 4: ESPN had a discussion whether or not he could be

991
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 4: considered an athlete because he has to train his body

992
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 4: to be able to do this. What's your take on that?

993
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 4: And that's and that's the end of Wiley's world after that.

994
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, Adrian Mikey P's hired again.

995
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: Sorry you didn't asked this level question. Athlete?

996
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: Oh man, I get into this discussion all the time, like,

997
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, Golfer a race car driver.

998
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: Now, damn hot dog eating Like it's getting too loose.

999
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: But I don't have a technical way to describe it athlete, right,

1000
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: It's really just your physical expression. And I can't say

1001
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: that that's a sport to me, and therefore I wouldn't

1002
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: call him an athlete. But what he does is something

1003
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: physically I couldn't do, And isn't that like the baseline

1004
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: of being an athlete physical expression? So I may be

1005
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: wrong on saying that he's not an athlete because I

1006
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: don't have a real logical base, But damn, that's a

1007
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: good discussion.

1008
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: I don't have to think about that.

1009
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: But whatever he is, I'm not, and whatever I am,

1010
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: he ain't. So maybe that's athlete or maybe that's something else.

1011
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna have to say no comment. I'm gonna

1012
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 4: pull Marshall Lynch and just say, you know, I'm just

1013
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 4: here show. I don't get fined, that's.

1014
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: Right, right, this is here to ask the question for real.

1015
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate you brother. Have a happy Fourth of July.

1016
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: Pop some fireworks, enjoy it. No illegal fireworks please, all

1017
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: you guys out there. And I know I'm talking to

1018
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: y'all too, y'all be acting like y'all don't know what

1019
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, I had some homies went to

1020
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: TJ and a few of them went to Vegas and

1021
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: got them the m one hundreds them things that sound

1022
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: like you're blowing up a building. WHOA, okay, lie. They're

1023
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: kind of cool to see, but it's a legal as hell,

1024
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: all right, y'all, y'all know all we finished every show,

1025
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: we finished it with a whyleism.

1026
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: Let's go, y'all ready, let's go. Attention is invention? Oh?

1027
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: Simple to the point, Oh, y'all want to make something

1028
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 1: happen in this world? Give it attention, I mean real attention,

1029
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean pure intention. I mean go into it, Let

1030
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: it occupy your mental space, let it occupy your spiritual space,

1031
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: and I'm swearing to y'all.

1032
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: You will create it.

1033
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: People always look at me and they're like, how did

1034
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: you navigate around all the stuff that you had to

1035
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: deal with growing up? First thing I did was not

1036
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: giving a lot of the attention. I ain't the one

1037
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: to talk about something but not gonna do it. If

1038
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it, I'm not talking about it for

1039
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: what like, One that's wasteful and two, don't mess around

1040
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 1: with temptation because that sucker is undefeated once it gets

1041
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: his hands on you.

1042
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm not playing.

1043
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm really intentional with this, and I want people

1044
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: to be attentive to what they want. And it's easy

1045
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: to get caught up in just talking about something that

1046
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: you really don't want.

1047
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: A lot of this world is doing that to us.

1048
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: Think about social media, all right, You go out there

1049
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: and you follow somebody, so you think, Okay, all I'm

1050
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: getting are the people that I want and the things

1051
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: that I want. Ooh, have you been lied too? You know,

1052
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: when you're scrolling, you are at the mercy of the scroll,

1053
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: you at the mercy of the algorithm, and don't lie.

1054
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: You could be the most honest, faithful, monogamous great dude.

1055
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: And then this is what happens. You're looking at this

1056
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: scroll the people that you know, you're like, you stop,

1057
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: your finger stopped because why here's a wedding with the

1058
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: bridesmaids and they all pretty and you're like, oh, that's

1059
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: a pretty wet Do you hit this? You open up

1060
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, real, pretty gone. You know what happened?

1061
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: This is what they did, all of a sudden in

1062
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: the matrix around, going to loger around on the algorithm again.

1063
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: You know what they do?

1064
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: They find why did he stop on this picture? Once

1065
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: they know that, all of a sudden, check your search.

1066
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: Guess what's in your search now? Images like that, and

1067
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: you're like, damn it, what And then now you're slow

1068
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: and they can tell your speed of rotation to tell you, oh,

1069
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: that's what he likes, and bam, bam bam. Next thing,

1070
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, you're being tempted by the things that you

1071
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: know you like, but the same thing, you don't want

1072
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: those things, right, don't give it attention because it will

1073
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: pop up in your life, in your world. That's just

1074
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: a simple example. It gets way deeper than that. So

1075
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: I just navigated by basically using the superpower of don't

1076
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: give anything the attention it doesn't deserve. And if you

1077
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: live by that, you all of a sudden got a

1078
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: railroad of where you want to go. And it's a

1079
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: lot easier. Not perfect, but a lot easier. So think

1080
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: about it. Just simply say what do I really want

1081
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: out of this world? What do I really want out

1082
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: of my life? What do I really want out of

1083
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: my relationships? What I really want for my family?

1084
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: And then.

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Speaker 1: Blinder's attention, give it your attention? Why because that's the invention,

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Speaker 1: it Cheke the show notes for all the information on

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Speaker 1: our topics today today.

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Speaker 2: Want to keep the conversation going, Let's talk Find me

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Speaker 2: on all socials at Marcel's.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for all the.

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. Keep it coming because there's more coming from.

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Speaker 2: More to it. Talk to y'all, Hellison