Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera. Judge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Eddy Mellencamp and and.
Speaker 3: They recently wrapped Tamra.
Speaker 1: Judge, how does it feel, tam God?
Speaker 4: I woke up with pupping my stuff and no stress,
Speaker 4: and it seemed like the longest I don't know what
Speaker 4: it was, three three and a half months of my life.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad to officially have you back back.
Speaker 3: Yes, full time back, full time back.
Speaker 1: I did see some things online.
Speaker 2: I know that you can't necessarily comment on them, but
Speaker 2: I feel like I have eyes and I.
Speaker 1: Can read on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something that I saw this morning, and this is
Speaker 2: just something I'm This is not me talking shit about Vicky.
Speaker 2: She is putting things in writing and I don't understand
Speaker 2: this portion. So somebody writes this is going to be
Speaker 2: the worst season ever, and Vicky responds, I agree, take
Speaker 2: it from me. Why I'm trying to think in the
Speaker 2: history of any friend of or housewife or wherever.
Speaker 1: But then, why should talk a show that you're on,
Speaker 1: and why if you want to be back more?
Speaker 2: Why should talk like she's trying to get herself back
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 3: Probably probably that.
Speaker 2: This is where I get confused, And it's not like
Speaker 2: I'm fine with Vicky in a general sense. I just
Speaker 2: don't understand what the intention is of putting this on
Speaker 2: social media.
Speaker 4: I think it's because I'm friends with Alexis. She is,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of sticking up for her little you know, posse,
Speaker 4: So whatever, whatever, All right, he wants to be nasty,
Speaker 4: be nasty, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 2: In return, Well, while we're on the topic of Alexis,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking about Tama and Eddie's wedding kickoff.
Speaker 2: This aired in September twenty thirteen. We see little bits
Speaker 2: of Alexis at your wedding.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So Eddie and I got up at six
Speaker 4: am this morning and we watched it together. I had
Speaker 4: not seen Taraa's OC wedding since it aired originally Eric,
Speaker 4: so it was so good.
Speaker 1: It was I mean it was it had drama.
Speaker 3: I was thinking in my head it was cheesy. This
Speaker 3: is cheesy, and I don't like watching myself. I'd have
Speaker 3: to say I actually enjoyed watching myself on this show.
Speaker 2: Because there's relatable things, there's also like ridiculous things. There's
Speaker 2: also things that like can clearly not be said anymore
Speaker 2: or done. So it's just like, oh, clearly, like it's
Speaker 2: turn back time and always.
Speaker 1: But can you walk me back for one second?
Speaker 2: So if this aired in twenty thirteen, what season was
Speaker 2: currently airing of Orange County?
Speaker 1: Because I'm only on season season eight? Oh, season eight?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so I have a long time to
Speaker 2: go before I get to season eight because what did
Speaker 2: we just recap season two?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Two?
Speaker 3: Keep in mind me and Simon were together season.
Speaker 1: Three, four and five, okay, And when does Eddie come
Speaker 1: into the picture?
Speaker 4: He comes in season six, I believe, okay, after me
Speaker 4: and Simon separate and then six seven and then eight
Speaker 4: after eight, so we were engaged for three years and
Speaker 4: then we got married.
Speaker 2: And then the current cast during your wedding, which did
Speaker 2: this air after season eight?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: I believe?
Speaker 1: So okay.
Speaker 2: So it was Lydia, Heather, Alexis, Gretchen, Tamra, and Vicki.
Speaker 3: That was the entire cast, and Laurie was a friend
Speaker 3: of Laurie. Wasn't there at the wedding?
Speaker 4: Was she?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 2: I never saw her, but I barely saw Alexis, so
Speaker 2: I'm assuming in real life you and Alexis must have
Speaker 2: been having drama at this point.
Speaker 4: Alexis and I went up and down because she was
Speaker 4: in a different relationship that was difficult for her and
Speaker 4: it showed.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm gonna say about that. But you know,
Speaker 3: we would go up and down.
Speaker 4: But at the end when I invited her, we were
Speaker 4: on good terms and we kind of remained on good
Speaker 4: terms for quite a while.
Speaker 1: But also Eddie was like pretty outspoken that he was.
Speaker 3: I was shocked. We were laughing our ass off, like
Speaker 3: the comments were made and things that were said.
Speaker 4: Now keep in mind, if I'm not mistaken. After my wedding,
Speaker 4: going into season nine, Lydia, Gretchen, and Alexis were all fired.
Speaker 2: Oh they were all fired, Lydia, Gretchen, and Alection.
Speaker 1: So then who came in there?
Speaker 3: Shannon and Lizzie joined.
Speaker 1: Do I know Lizzie?
Speaker 4: No, probably not. She was on one season and then
Speaker 4: I think they brought about the next season and then
Speaker 4: she got fired in Shannon's garage in her garage, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: very nice garage in Newport Coast.
Speaker 3: Why underground garage?
Speaker 4: It was towards the end of the season and she
Speaker 4: just really hadn't done anything, and the rest of us
Speaker 4: girls went to Mastros and we were like partying and
Speaker 4: taking pictures and all this, and She's like, how can
Speaker 4: you party?
Speaker 3: She text us, how can you be partying when I
Speaker 3: just got fired?
Speaker 1: We had no idea.
Speaker 3: We're like, where's Lizzie. Where's Lizzy?
Speaker 2: Go?
Speaker 1: Oh well, now I'm more curious about Lizzie. All right,
Speaker 1: so we'll get into the wedding. It's five weeks away.
Speaker 2: Tamra is starting to plan her dream wedding while Eddie
Speaker 2: is off working on their gym and feels that a
Speaker 2: minimalistic wedding will do. Tamra plans a co ed weekend
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas that ends up testing the couple's trusts
Speaker 2: once pictures from Eddie's bachelor party are sent to Heather's iPhone.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: So Eddie and I when they asked us to do
Speaker 4: the wedding special, you know, neither one of us were
Speaker 4: kind of the over the top type of people to
Speaker 4: have this huge wedding. It was my third wedding, his second.
Speaker 4: So our plan was to do a TV wedding and
Speaker 4: then afterwards we would go to Cabo or something with
Speaker 4: our family and get married on the beach and that
Speaker 4: would be our special wedding. But it ended up being
Speaker 4: so good and so beautiful and so over the top,
Speaker 4: and we totally forgot the cameras were there that were.
Speaker 3: Like, nop, we're good, this is good. We don't need
Speaker 3: to do this again.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well I loved it. It was beautiful, but
Speaker 2: I have to break down some questions. Oh, first question,
Speaker 2: who is Ricky?
Speaker 3: So Ricky was somebody that he was married to Diego.
Speaker 4: Diego was my attorney for a while, and our kids
Speaker 4: went to school together, and Ricky ended up turning on me.
Speaker 1: On television or just in real life.
Speaker 4: In real life, and I also kind of felt like
Speaker 4: we were only super close when the cameras were up,
Speaker 4: so you think he was using you a little bit.
Speaker 4: So I didn't invite him to my baptism.
Speaker 3: And mostly because.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, am I going to get to watch
Speaker 1: that too?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Is that a special or that's just during the season.
Speaker 4: Yes, And if you notice, he was when he talked
Speaker 4: about Gretchen on the episode one of these episodes, he
Speaker 4: didn't like her.
Speaker 3: So anyways, so he was invited to my baptism that night.
Speaker 4: By the time I got home, he sent me really
Speaker 4: nasty text messages saying he was going to destroy my life.
Speaker 3: And then he proceeded to.
Speaker 4: Call and text each one of my cast members, and
Speaker 4: so I just went, I'm done.
Speaker 3: I don't have any.
Speaker 1: Did any of the cast members bite and engage with him.
Speaker 4: No, But then he decided he was going to get
Speaker 4: close with Gret just to piss me off.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're friends anymore. But it was just
Speaker 3: a whole thing.
Speaker 4: And then later on you'll see he spearheaded this whole
Speaker 4: conversation about Eddie's gay and brought it to Kelly god
Speaker 4: and Vickie and they plotted and planned and met it
Speaker 4: Starbucks and said they were going to bring it up
Speaker 4: on camera and that went viral. And then after Eddie
Speaker 4: got heart issues, he DMed Eddie and said, I just
Speaker 4: want to say I hope you're okay or something like that.
Speaker 4: I'm paraphrasing, and I want you to know that I
Speaker 4: didn't say any of that. They twisted my words and
Speaker 4: put that together and I never said that you were
Speaker 4: gay and all this stuff, and Eddie's like I ain't
Speaker 4: responding back to him.
Speaker 2: Well, Eddie, can you respond to this, because when you
Speaker 2: were in Vegas and you were wearing trains and boy
Speaker 2: Boy Toy Boy Toy shorts and well even the jacket
Speaker 2: that you may have borrowed from Ryan, that jacket was.
Speaker 3: Like twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it was bought start any rumors it
Speaker 4: was bought by We were in Vegas a few months
Speaker 4: prior in our friends Jen and Matt bought it for
Speaker 4: Eddie as like an engagement present, and he just to
Speaker 4: this day.
Speaker 3: He still has it to this day and often we'll
Speaker 3: whip it out on New Year's Eve.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see it. I need to borrow it.
Speaker 2: I hope you wear it to the reunion camera.
Speaker 3: Oh, that would be great with heels.
Speaker 2: You could wear that to the reunion with one of
Speaker 2: the Statement necklaces you sported.
Speaker 4: Oh well, don't be ragging on my striped hair, my
Speaker 4: statement necklaces, and my skinny eyebrows.
Speaker 3: Okay, hold on.
Speaker 1: You also had underneath I remember this trend, but underneath had.
Speaker 4: Black black hair was like almost like a reddish brown
Speaker 4: under there.
Speaker 3: Isn't that pretty?
Speaker 1: You also were really preppy?
Speaker 2: Was I Yes, Like I was watching you and I
Speaker 2: was like, is tam kind of preppy?
Speaker 1: And I don't know, it's just funny to.
Speaker 4: See it, like I went her most phases, but I all,
Speaker 4: I could, I mean, Eddie reallying bed and I go,
Speaker 4: oh my god, how young we looked? Look how long young?
Speaker 4: It was eleven and a half years ago when we
Speaker 4: shot that.
Speaker 1: Well you look beautiful.
Speaker 2: But I love when Eddie's like, Tamora, I just want
Speaker 2: a small wedding, not this big old production. I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: because you got a three episode spin off, Eddie, it's
Speaker 2: probably going to be a pretty's probably.
Speaker 3: Going to be big. Yeah, and you know we didn't
Speaker 3: pay for a cent.
Speaker 1: Well that's my next question. Yeah, did you pay for
Speaker 1: the food the hotel? No? Nothing, nothing. Did you pay
Speaker 1: for the moonshine your brother bro?
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Before we get into the wedding, we'll get back to
Speaker 2: the planning in the Vegas. But Heather Deubreau tells Tamar
Speaker 2: that she is concerned because it doesn't seem like Tamra
Speaker 2: knows what goes into wedding planning, which I'm convinced Heather
Speaker 2: has discovered the Fountain of Youth. Or she's a robot
Speaker 2: because she looks exactly.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, she looks exactly the same.
Speaker 2: Exactly the same everyone else. There's some differences. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what are you on a time machine?
Speaker 3: I know, I know.
Speaker 1: Did they pay the other housewives to be in it?
Speaker 3: Yes? Oh, yes, there was a participation to film.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Then you go to the cake store with Vicky and
Speaker 2: you tell Vicky that you want to have it be
Speaker 2: a Latin vibe, and then you asked her to be
Speaker 2: a bridesmaid. Vicky asked if Eddie's okay with it? I
Speaker 2: thought this part was a sweet moment. Then Eddie Tamra
Speaker 2: shows Eddie the wedding invitation, which made me audibly giggle
Speaker 2: because my first wedding I had a box invite to.
Speaker 4: That was Diane Valentine's idea to have them, you know,
Speaker 4: hand delivered.
Speaker 3: Diane, I mean, she was amazing.
Speaker 1: Did you choose her or bravo?
Speaker 4: She's amazing, amazing, She's had her own shows. Her and
Speaker 4: Damiica they were they were so much fun. I don't
Speaker 4: remember if I chose I think I did. I think
Speaker 4: that they gave me three to choose from, and I
Speaker 4: chose her.
Speaker 3: She was just she was so good and she was
Speaker 3: funny and she was.
Speaker 2: Able to like make jokes but not be offensive about it, and.
Speaker 1: You like and like. But also she it seemed like
Speaker 1: she knew you well.
Speaker 2: Like even when she said, Tamar, you have to bring
Speaker 2: me like the table names, and you just brought the
Speaker 2: first names.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's such a tamer thing, I know, right,
Speaker 1: And she knew it. And then she's like, I knew
Speaker 1: she was going to come without last names. And then
Speaker 1: she's like, how many ste you are there? And you're like,
Speaker 1: what I know.
Speaker 3: She's like, so what kind of food? I don't know
Speaker 3: what about flowers?
Speaker 2: I got nothing, but you did want to make sure
Speaker 2: you had a dazzled cake that you got on a swing.
Speaker 3: On a swing. I know it was.
Speaker 4: I think that the restaurant or the cake place was
Speaker 4: all about the cakes.
Speaker 3: I think it's called in Dana Point.
Speaker 1: It looked Deliciou right across from the harbor.
Speaker 4: And I used to get all my cakes made by them,
Speaker 4: not cheap.
Speaker 1: Not cheap.
Speaker 2: Well, this one you didn't pay for, so didn't really
Speaker 2: head into your budget, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I think I did. I think I did
Speaker 4: pay for the cake. I think that was one of
Speaker 4: the only things I paid for.
Speaker 1: What about the shoes, six thousand dollars shoes.
Speaker 3: I didn't get the I didn't get those, but my
Speaker 3: girlfriend Jen Lison bought me sparkly Louis Vuitton's as a
Speaker 3: engagement present.
Speaker 1: But don't worry.
Speaker 2: I saw you switched into your favorites for the rehearsal
Speaker 2: party dance.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. I was like, oh, old faith Wells are
Speaker 1: bad out?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Which ones were those?
Speaker 1: The ones I always tease you about the ysls you
Speaker 1: always wear that are comfortable?
Speaker 3: Did I wear those at the rehearsal.
Speaker 2: Like you changed out of your first gown and like
Speaker 2: into your dance outfit and I look down.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, those were dance shoes.
Speaker 4: Oh those were actually dance shoes. Yeah, those were good,
Speaker 4: But these weren't the YSL tributes.
Speaker 3: Well, it's probably because I had a few drinks in me.
Speaker 4: I feel like I overthink dancing and I love when
Speaker 4: I asked her.
Speaker 3: When do we not act so robotic? And she's like,
Speaker 3: when you learn to dance?
Speaker 2: So never until I have a couple of drinks. All right,
Speaker 2: but before that, let's talk a little bit about Vegas.
Speaker 2: You guys all go to Vegas. I had a couple
Speaker 2: jump scares there by like all the people that I
Speaker 2: know that were there that they aren't in Heather Dubro's
Speaker 2: fountain of use.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2: But then you guys sit down at a dinner and
Speaker 2: how did it come up that Heather. I'm sure there's
Speaker 2: editing that plays into it, but that Heather kind of
Speaker 2: outs you for the Bachelor party actually.
Speaker 4: Just started talking about it, and I'm like, stop stop,
Speaker 4: I mean I didn't tell. I mean, I think at
Speaker 4: that point the season finale had already aired and my
Speaker 4: Bachelorette Party had already aired, so he had seen it.
Speaker 3: He wasn't happy about it.
Speaker 4: But she was bringing it up again and basically saying like,
Speaker 4: I think they might have done flat.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, they did flashback.
Speaker 4: I think they did footage that was never maybe seen.
Speaker 4: Oh is what it happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Heather and Terry definitely came to make
Speaker 2: a little mess, like oh no, let's make this Vegas
Speaker 2: pop right off. But I have seen Eddie seem annoyed
Speaker 2: before and I don't think he was acting there.
Speaker 1: I think he was annoyed.
Speaker 3: He was annoyed to this day. He brings it up.
Speaker 4: Remember when you had that strip of your ear and
Speaker 4: I said, okay, enough enough, that's not really what happened.
Speaker 3: I'm like this trying to hide from him. And yeah,
Speaker 3: those I.
Speaker 1: Mean it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Neither of your experiences with the strippers that I saw
Speaker 2: on television were that great. But then so we can
Speaker 2: see I can see Eddie's eyes like Edwin can kind
Speaker 2: of get the same way when he's like it almost.
Speaker 1: Looks like a threat, but it's not a threat. It's
Speaker 1: just like, okay, yeah, do you think that's fine?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can I can do that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then he did I.
Speaker 3: Know boner and all?
Speaker 1: Did he really have a boner? I couldn't see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally no, yes, no, I mean he has some
Speaker 3: girl rubbing on us.
Speaker 1: What hold on?
Speaker 2: But also once they went into the private room and
Speaker 2: Terry put his glasses on to.
Speaker 4: Get a better look what the girl sits on him,
Speaker 4: and Terry puts her his glasses on, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, when you put your readers on to
Speaker 4: look closer, I'm like, stop, Well, how long between when
Speaker 4: you got that photograph of what was happening with Eddie and.
Speaker 2: All of you guys deciding to get in the limo
Speaker 2: with the champagne and show up at the strip club?
Speaker 1: Was was that time frame?
Speaker 4: Well, we were at the Palms and they were at Sapphires,
Speaker 4: so you know, probably a good fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: And then you get it. You and Eddie have a
Speaker 2: conversation where now you're equally pissed at each other.
Speaker 1: He's clearly doing it to get back at you.
Speaker 2: I mean, these are things that happen oftentimes at bachelor,
Speaker 2: bachelor and bachelorette parties with Edwin and I did not
Speaker 2: have a bachelor or a bachelorette party, which I'm grateful
Speaker 2: for because this kind of shit always happens. But you
Speaker 2: are clearly annoyed, and he's like, well, should we end
Speaker 2: this now? And like not the wedding, Like he's like,
Speaker 2: should we go home?
Speaker 1: And I.
Speaker 3: Was calling truth, calling truth, Okay, I'm thinking of a
Speaker 3: different scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, well either way, it was kind of
Speaker 2: the same thing. But then you go, I'm going home,
Speaker 2: But now I need to know how long.
Speaker 1: Until Eddie came home.
Speaker 3: We went together. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, it was really stressing me.
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to know who went with
Speaker 2: Tamra home and how a scale of one to ten,
Speaker 2: how pissed Hamra was.
Speaker 1: I know it did. I mean it did end abruptly,
Speaker 1: So it did.
Speaker 4: How about my ex tweeting the entire time I'm there?
Speaker 4: He really wanted He really went out of his way
Speaker 4: from the time we separated to label me monster mom.
Speaker 4: He was working with a guy that was an editor
Speaker 4: at the Inquirer. I don't even know if they're around
Speaker 4: anymore that would write stories labeling me monster mom.
Speaker 3: Oh, it was great.
Speaker 1: It was It was a really it was a good time.
Speaker 3: It was a great It was a good time in
Speaker 3: my life. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then you guys get back from Vegas. You guys are
Speaker 2: having a conversation where you make a joke where you're like,
Speaker 2: you didn't even grab I love that. This is your
Speaker 2: fight back. You don't even you didn't grab my ass
Speaker 2: like that when I put my ass on your lap.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But all's well, that ends well because then we get
Speaker 2: to episode two, Decisions Decisions, Tamra confides to Eddie that
Speaker 2: she feels pressured to impress his family the trip to
Speaker 2: choose bride'smaid's dresses turns bad once drama erupts. Eddie and
Speaker 2: Tamar's families get together for a barbecue.
Speaker 1: I just want to know.
Speaker 2: If you and Ricky went to the same place to
Speaker 2: get your hair highlighted.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Ricky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know back then two thousands, the striped hair,
Speaker 3: having the stripes and the different color and the dark underneath,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I mean I had it too, very cute,
Speaker 3: very very cute.
Speaker 2: Then not everybody was there for the bridesmaid's dresses, so
Speaker 2: you just picked one out.
Speaker 4: Well, we drove to Pasadena. So we went all the
Speaker 4: way to Pasadena. We were in the car and we
Speaker 4: picked out this store online and it was one that
Speaker 4: Diane sent me and they cleared it.
Speaker 3: And we got there.
Speaker 4: It was horrible and I'm like, I'm not even going
Speaker 4: in there, guys. I don't even want to pretend like
Speaker 4: I'm going in there.
Speaker 3: Like no.
Speaker 1: So then they shipped a bunch to one of y'all's houses.
Speaker 4: So what happened was is we all went together to
Speaker 4: David's bridle okay, and we got all the dresses together,
Speaker 4: but they wouldn't let us film there, I believe, So
Speaker 4: they Diane. We tried them on, got them all sized everything,
Speaker 4: and then Diane brought them to us that day.
Speaker 1: But everybody looked beautiful.
Speaker 2: So shout out to David's bridle because all the bridesmaids,
Speaker 2: yeah beautiful.
Speaker 3: Now my kids were in the wedding.
Speaker 4: You'll see Sydney on one end and Spence around the
Speaker 4: other end far In and they just blurred their face.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't even Yeah, yeah, I was like, I
Speaker 2: wonder that makes sense now they couldn't beah and Sothia was.
Speaker 3: The flower girl, but I don't even know if they
Speaker 3: showed her. I don't know.
Speaker 2: But it was a really sweet moment, like there's just
Speaker 2: a lot a lot of it. You're just like it,
Speaker 2: even though some of it felt a little bit like
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, like when Eddie's like, you need to
Speaker 2: uninvite this person, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Eddie, I know, I know this ain't happening.
Speaker 3: Well, I really thought like, oh shit, because he did
Speaker 3: not like.
Speaker 1: Them.
Speaker 3: He did not like that, especially the husband.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so I'm like I was seriously worried, like
Speaker 4: seriously in real life. I'm like, how the hell do
Speaker 4: you do that? Sorry, you're not invited? Is that something
Speaker 4: production can do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, well, what do you mean, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 2: we don't have enough room for you.
Speaker 1: We already paid you to be here.
Speaker 2: But then you're getting ready for the dinner party because
Speaker 2: it's the first time that your families are meeting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what actually starts this argument?
Speaker 3: My brother? My brother, It can be a real asshole.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm watching it and I'm like, we're not
Speaker 4: even speaking right now, because.
Speaker 2: Your mom didn't seem upset when you said, you know,
Speaker 2: and they even flashed. They did you that favor of
Speaker 2: giving the flashback where you said you didn't say like
Speaker 2: you weren't a family to say I love you.
Speaker 3: No, we weren't. We weren't a loving family at all
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 2: But then why was your brother giving such pushback on that?
Speaker 2: Was he like trying to make you look like an asshole?
Speaker 4: I'm mad at he got mad at me because I
Speaker 4: did that scene with my mom and so he was
Speaker 4: trying to stick up for her, and and he's like,
Speaker 4: you're an asshole for doing that and saying that she
Speaker 4: was never there for you, And I'm like, it's not exactly.
Speaker 3: What I said. I said. We grew up in a
Speaker 3: very loveless family. Yes we did things together, but we
Speaker 3: were just a family that were non emotional. You swept
Speaker 3: everything under the rug. I think it was the times
Speaker 3: as well. No hugging, no touching.
Speaker 4: I remember my dad telling me he loved me for
Speaker 4: the first time when I was twenty one.
Speaker 1: What happened at twenty one? I got that big.
Speaker 3: I was twenty one.
Speaker 4: I was going to New York and I've never really no,
Speaker 4: I wasn't twenty one because I didn't have Ryan.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I think I was still in high school and I
Speaker 4: was my neighbors across the street, Italian family. They had
Speaker 4: a house in Rochester, New York, and they had this
Speaker 4: cottage out in the woods, and they were going to
Speaker 4: take me. And it's one of those things like, oh,
Speaker 4: she's getting on airplane. I hadn't been on many airplanes,
Speaker 4: and it was like, I love you, and I literally
Speaker 4: choked up. I was walking out the door. I'm like, well, well,
Speaker 4: where did that come from?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh town, I know. So it was, you know,
Speaker 3: it was just how it was.
Speaker 4: And then when you have your own children, you know
Speaker 4: you don't want to carry that forward, and so you know,
Speaker 4: I always made sure I told my kids. I love
Speaker 4: them all the time, and then it makes you wonder,
Speaker 4: like why didn't you tell me that?
Speaker 3: Like why did I grow up like that?
Speaker 4: And my mom and dad just came from very dysfunctional families.
Speaker 4: My dad came from you know, alcohol abuse and physical abuse,
Speaker 4: and my mom, my grandmother was very, very sick. She
Speaker 4: was schizophrenic, so she was very sick, in in and
Speaker 4: out of hospitals, and she was raised by her sister,
Speaker 4: and so they weren't didn't have the perfect family.
Speaker 3: I mean, not too many people do, but so they
Speaker 3: didn't know any different.
Speaker 2: Where I did really kind of because remember I hadn't
Speaker 2: watched past seasons of you and Eddie kind of getting together,
Speaker 2: So I'm just watching kind of the drama at the
Speaker 2: start of this, and I'm like, what is happening?
Speaker 1: Yeah, But where you see how.
Speaker 2: Much you guys really love each other and how he
Speaker 2: is able to diffuse the situation between the two families
Speaker 2: and also make you feel loved in that moment and
Speaker 2: also not make you feel bad or that make it
Speaker 2: feel like his family is disapproving.
Speaker 1: Of any of this.
Speaker 2: I think that's where you really see, like how kind
Speaker 2: his heart is.
Speaker 3: Oh, Eddie's the kindest guy in the world.
Speaker 4: Even if somebody he can't stand like talks to him
Speaker 4: in a nice way, he will be very kind back,
Speaker 4: even if he doesn't like the person. But he you know,
Speaker 4: he's somebody that wants to take.
Speaker 3: Care of everybody. Yeah, I love seeing grandma. So Eddie's grandma.
Speaker 4: Yeah she is now ninety nine years old. Wow, still
Speaker 4: walking around still, you know, joking laughing.
Speaker 3: I'm like, she's gonna live to onunr and five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And Eddie's like, I go, you are too, You're
Speaker 4: going to live to And He's like, I don't want
Speaker 4: to live that long. No, I'm like, if you keep
Speaker 4: working out and keep because she would always walk, even
Speaker 4: in her eighties, she would have breakfast, put on her lipstick,
Speaker 4: and go walk the neighborhood out there in Fullerton.
Speaker 2: But I think you guys have real conversations here because
Speaker 2: you're like, you're saying you're worried because your family's crazy,
Speaker 2: and Eddie's family is more conservative yep. And He's just like, no,
Speaker 2: everyone loves you and I love you and I'm here
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: And I want to support you. And who cares, you know, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: families do this shit. It's family. Like I just in
Speaker 1: that moment, I was like, Okay, Eddie.
Speaker 3: Doesn't have a big family. He's got He was brought
Speaker 3: over from Mexico by his grandmother. No mom, no dad
Speaker 3: in his life. His aunt. He was raised with his
Speaker 3: aunt like she was his sister.
Speaker 1: So all he has is.
Speaker 3: Is Grandma, his aunt, and his aunt's family.
Speaker 4: So and then he lived in some foster homes as
Speaker 4: he was growing up because you know, Grandma didn't have
Speaker 4: money and they were living in a garage, so he
Speaker 4: would go live with He's got a lot of people
Speaker 4: that he calls mom even to this day because they
Speaker 4: took him in when he was going through you know,
Speaker 4: school age years.
Speaker 2: Well, if you guys want more story on like Eddie's backstore,
Speaker 2: you guys have to go listen to the Eds, because
Speaker 2: they really break down they have very similar upbringings and
Speaker 2: they really break down their story and it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 2: And also, I mean, it's it's a wonder how they
Speaker 2: both ended up with such assholes like us.
Speaker 4: I know, I know two I got assholes. You know, what,
Speaker 4: have you ever had moonshine?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if I've ever had moon.
Speaker 2: Maybe one time I've had moonshine, but I think I
Speaker 2: was scared, so I like took like a babysit.
Speaker 1: Did you drink it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: The moonshim brother brought to the rehearsal dinner was literally
Speaker 4: moonshine that was made in a baptop.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then the moonshine he brought to somewhere else I
Speaker 4: can't remember. It was moonshine bought from you know a
Speaker 4: Oh no, No, the moonshine he brought to my backyard was homemade.
Speaker 4: The stuff he brought to the rehearsal dinner was stuff
Speaker 4: from the grocery store. And I've tasted that before, but
Speaker 4: it's flavored. It tastes like apple pie and you know,
Speaker 4: but it's not really well.
Speaker 2: I have a question, after this aired, or after the
Speaker 2: conversations with your mom, did things shift with the sharing
Speaker 2: of I love you and yeah?
Speaker 4: I think after you know that, when I did that
Speaker 4: woman's conference and talked about it, I think things shifted then. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but to this day that my mom's not warm and fuzzy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she loves us, we know she loves us. But my
Speaker 4: mom likes to do the Irish exit. So when she's
Speaker 4: done she is Litha. Yeah, no, there's no goodbyes. I
Speaker 4: think she's uh not. She doesn't like to deal with emotion.
Speaker 3: She's like me, I don't want to do I was
Speaker 3: gonna say.
Speaker 1: Just shouting a little bit familiar to a person I know,
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: So my brother was labeled the asshole drunk oh during
Speaker 4: the wedding well after the show aired, Oh, because I
Speaker 4: guess I said, you're an asshole drunk, so he changed
Speaker 4: his Instagram handled to asshole drunk.
Speaker 1: That is so good. Well, at least you can laugh
Speaker 1: at himself, you know. I always appreciate someone that can
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: I also appreciate when you and Gretchen go for a
Speaker 2: walk and I hear the quote I don't want to
Speaker 2: look at my wedding pictures ten years from now and say,
Speaker 2: where's Gretchen.
Speaker 4: I not do even feel about that statement now, Honestly,
Speaker 4: like just watching the show and her being in us,
Speaker 4: being in a good place, you know, it took me
Speaker 4: back to that good place, not the place where she's
Speaker 4: been trying to trash me for ten years or eleven
Speaker 4: years at this point. So I was like, it made
Speaker 4: me happy to see that, you know, friendship that we
Speaker 4: had way back then, not what we you know, we
Speaker 4: don't have any friendship.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I need to ask you a question.
Speaker 2: I need you to say one nice thing about Gretchen,
Speaker 2: she has beautiful hair. One nice thing about Slade, who
Speaker 2: I felt looked handsome at your wedding, just saying he
Speaker 2: didn't say any I didn't hear him say any words,
Speaker 2: and just as an aesthetic, I thought looked handsome aut
Speaker 2: your wedding.
Speaker 3: I don't know that I have anything nice. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: lost four wards, all right, well lost four wards.
Speaker 2: Then you know, we just we're still working about who
Speaker 2: we're going to invite. We know what happens with Ricky.
Speaker 2: But then there's a new person that comes in, CJ.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, what's what's her deal?
Speaker 4: CJ's another girl that you know, you know when your
Speaker 4: kids go to school and you meet people, and she's
Speaker 4: another person that I met through the kids school and
Speaker 4: was pretty much a neighbor, lived close and she was.
Speaker 3: Friends with Ricky and we we still like.
Speaker 4: She moved out of state, so she lives in I
Speaker 4: think Oklahoma right now, so we will text once in
Speaker 4: a while, but I haven't seen her in quite a while.
Speaker 4: But she's she's sweet, her and her husband, she's got
Speaker 4: a son that's going to college, so it was only
Speaker 4: natural for me to have her.
Speaker 3: And she was one of my best friends back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we get to episode three, Tamra and
Speaker 2: Eddie's Big OC wedding air date September sixteenth, twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: Tamar and Eddie host a final pre wedding dinner with
Speaker 2: their closest friend. Later, the wedding day finally arrives.
Speaker 1: Finally, Diane asked.
Speaker 2: Tamra about her dresses and says they are coming the
Speaker 2: day of the wedding, which makes Diane's jaw drop.
Speaker 1: I'm also confused why Diane didn't get an orange the
Speaker 1: next season.
Speaker 3: Right, she was so good. I'm so glad that I
Speaker 3: chose her as my wedding planner because she really made
Speaker 3: the show. Another person I'm really glad that we chose is.
Speaker 1: The person Pretty Kitty, not the Pretty.
Speaker 4: Kitty, the woman that performed the service, because she had
Speaker 4: that British accent and I think it just made it
Speaker 4: sound so elegant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was great. I also.
Speaker 2: Seeing the wax at the Pretty Kitty with Ricky being
Speaker 2: towards your bottom half.
Speaker 3: How about the camera guy, like like all of it?
Speaker 3: Like who took pictures of that?
Speaker 2: Like? I just want to know, Like, have you checked
Speaker 2: off all your like Housewives things you need to do?
Speaker 2: You're like badge wax check, wine toss check check, sexy
Speaker 2: bats tubscene check.
Speaker 4: Yeah, throwing baptism baptism baptism check. Yeah, Oh yeah I
Speaker 4: did them all. I have done everything I possibly could.
Speaker 3: Do on reality TV.
Speaker 4: Have you got married grand No, and I will never
Speaker 4: do that again. Ever, that was the most painful thing
Speaker 4: I have ever experienced in my life.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't actually particularly like to get waxed either.
Speaker 2: Then where I rehearsal dinner, Kenny brought the moonshine again,
Speaker 2: takes a swig of it. Tamra, you go over to
Speaker 2: your brother and say, no moonshine tomorrow. He's not having it,
Speaker 2: but he does seem to be in a more likable
Speaker 2: spear That nice. Then Vicky gives a toast to Tamra,
Speaker 2: saying Eddie is Tamra's soulmate. Vicky says she's been through
Speaker 2: it all with Tamra. Do you have any regrets about
Speaker 2: any of your bridal party?
Speaker 4: Probably just Ricky because of what he did to Eddie
Speaker 4: and started that whole fuel. Yeah, oh he's gay and
Speaker 4: all that stuff. That's really I mean, that was just nasty, nasty.
Speaker 2: Then they shoot you arriving to the Saint Regis for
Speaker 2: the wedding day, you get into your dress, you listen,
Speaker 2: and I'm not the biggest complimenter ever, but like, you
Speaker 2: looked so beautiful and stunning and happy in the moment
Speaker 2: between you and your son where you guys don't know
Speaker 2: if you should break off or walk together on the
Speaker 2: same side.
Speaker 1: I mean, all of it is just it's it really
Speaker 1: makes you happy, and.
Speaker 4: It is and it's such a beautiful setting, like the
Speaker 4: I forgot how beautiful. Like Since then, they the Saint
Speaker 4: Regis has changed names twice, they've taken the gazebo down
Speaker 4: all it looks like a helicopter pad.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, it's you know, it was just such a
Speaker 3: beautiful place to have the wedding.
Speaker 1: And I'm just curious. We see Eddie start to tear up.
Speaker 1: But then I feel.
Speaker 2: Like I saw him shoot an air kiss, Like I
Speaker 2: feel like he was like and I.
Speaker 1: Just see that, Oh god, I just see it.
Speaker 4: Probably probably you're like I was like waiting for you
Speaker 4: to be like God.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: A little cheesy, but I'll tell you I really thought
Speaker 4: it was going to be cheesier than that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It was really great. I have a question
Speaker 1: for you now, if you and Eddie were to renew
Speaker 1: your vows tomorrow, who would be your bridesmaids? You? I
Speaker 1: didn't do that for reasons.
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, like how your life has changed since whatever.
Speaker 3: You Heather, Emily, I don't know. I mean, that's something
Speaker 3: I think if you renew your vows at this age,
Speaker 3: like you don't need brides You don't need bridesmaids and
Speaker 3: flower girls. Yeah, oh you know, I often.
Speaker 1: Would be who would be your man of honor?
Speaker 2: Kayden, I was gonna say, you'd better answer, yeah, point,
Speaker 2: it's going to.
Speaker 1: Be a lot, a lot.
Speaker 3: It wasn't. It was a TV wedding, you know, and
Speaker 3: it was made for TV.
Speaker 4: And you know, uh, later in the I don't know,
Speaker 4: I don't know, season ten, something like that.
Speaker 3: Eleven.
Speaker 4: I think it is Shannon tries to turn Heather against
Speaker 4: me by saying I didn't want to earn my wedding.
Speaker 3: I had a conversation with him.
Speaker 4: I said, if I didn't have a TV wedding, you know,
Speaker 4: off camera, had this conversation, I wouldn't have had anybody
Speaker 4: in the wedding.
Speaker 3: I would have went to Mexico and got married on
Speaker 3: the beach. Yeah, you know, it would have been something
Speaker 3: very simple like that.
Speaker 4: So she used that like she often does, and twisted
Speaker 4: and made it sound like, you know, made Heather and
Speaker 4: everybody mad at me. That's the year I was at
Speaker 4: Bally and I was ganged up on and I left.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Well, there is a moment where Gretchen says her and
Speaker 2: Vicky didn't talk and she was keeping her distance, but
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, Vicky comes over and starts
Speaker 2: dancing with her.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, did Vicky get into the moonshine?
Speaker 1: Like the thing with.
Speaker 4: Vicky it's like she can be nice to you and
Speaker 4: then she's mean to you, and then she's nice.
Speaker 3: To you again. Did you tear up at all watching?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I did.
Speaker 3: I did too, I mean obviously I did.
Speaker 2: I there was a moment I think, especially when I
Speaker 2: saw you coming out, and then when I saw Eddie
Speaker 2: start to tear up yep, and then actually at the
Speaker 2: dance because I know how nervous you were to do
Speaker 2: that dance? Yes, yes, and I just and you guys
Speaker 2: just look so happy and it looked effortless and it
Speaker 2: didn't look for and I was like, I felt I
Speaker 2: know it's gonna sound crazy, but I felt proud of you.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you. I didn't know how I was going
Speaker 3: to do that dance.
Speaker 4: Like we rehearsed at our gym, like with the with
Speaker 4: the instructor a few times a week, like for weeks,
Speaker 4: five weeks, we kept doing it.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, that's why I'm always like dancing.
Speaker 1: The stars now.
Speaker 4: But it was weird looking at the guest at my wedding,
Speaker 4: I'm like, who's that? Oh shit, I didn't know she
Speaker 4: was at my wedding.
Speaker 3: Like it was crazy.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's in such big moments like that,
Speaker 2: like you kind of really only remember your person sometimes
Speaker 2: unless someone does something annoying. Lynn Curtin was there, right, yep.
Speaker 3: Lynn was there.
Speaker 2: And then you guys like as it ends, they make
Speaker 2: a train for Eddie and Tamra and they run through
Speaker 2: it off as newlyweds and everybody's happy and you know
Speaker 2: that Moore is coming. But I have to say, you
Speaker 2: gave us amazing reality television. Like, I really was shocked
Speaker 2: because I haven't seen that many wedding specials.
Speaker 1: I think I've only.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a few out there, maybe we should recap them.
Speaker 4: There's Candy's wedding, there's uh, Cynthia Bailey's wedding, there's Kim
Speaker 4: zozie wedding. They all have they all have specials. It
Speaker 4: was it was a thing that they did.
Speaker 1: Did they have three episodes specials? Is this like a reunion?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Did you get two reunions?
Speaker 4: I don't remember, honestly, Kim had ten Kim had ten, Yeah,
Speaker 4: but that went in that ran into her. But they
Speaker 4: were only twenty minute episodes.
Speaker 1: So was that on like a different streaming site or
Speaker 1: was that on Bravo?
Speaker 3: So that's like really three in one yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh and then Cynthia got married on the season finale.
Speaker 1: But all in all, tam I was very impressed.
Speaker 2: I kind of I was like, how am I going
Speaker 2: to watch three episodes of somebody getting married?
Speaker 1: And I loved it. I loved all three seconds was good.
Speaker 4: They really did a great job producing it and editing
Speaker 4: it and giving it the perfect amount of everything, like
Speaker 4: you know, the family life, the getting ready the actual wedding.
Speaker 2: The highs, the lows, fights, but also making up resolution,
Speaker 2: budget conversation.
Speaker 1: And something that I realized.
Speaker 2: The only two OC housewives that have ever gotten spin
Speaker 2: offs are Joe and me.
Speaker 1: I know, well, I love you, Tam and I'm really happy.
Speaker 2: I hope you guys all tune in to Tama's Oca
Speaker 2: wedding because it will give you all the feel.
Speaker 3: It is airing on Peacock now, so it's streaming. You
Speaker 3: can just watch all three of them.
Speaker 4: Also, the other housewife weddings are airing on Peacock as well.
Speaker 2: Let us know if you want us to recap the
Speaker 2: other housewife weddings, because we'll go down that deep dive.
Speaker 1: We're not now the Tamra is not filming. We can watch.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we got a lot to do.
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Bye,