1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huddle on Giants 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: dot Com. 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 2: We go here, we go on the Giants Bubble. Let 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: him in there, let's go part of the Giants podcast network. 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 3: We are here on the Giants Totle Podcast. My name 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: is John Schmelk. The edge rushers, the guys that get 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 3: after the quarterback, guys that the Giants will spend some 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: high draft picks on, and they have some vets as well. 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: So a lot to talk about here with our edge 10 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: players at a very important position in Wink Martindelle's defense. 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: He does a good job of generating pressure, but when 12 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 3: they don't blitz, these are the guys that have to 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: get home, and they do a good job of that 14 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: when they're on the field and healthy, and they helped 15 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: this group is healthier in twenty twenty three. So we're 16 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 3: gonna have interviews with Kaveon Thibodeaux, Timon Fox, John Ward, 17 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: Ellison Smith, and they wanna wrap it up with a 18 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: z'z Ojalari. 19 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: So let's start off. 20 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: With the Giants second year player, first round draft pick 21 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty two, Keveon Thibdeau, and now we're 22 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: joined by second year Giants Edge Rusher, Kveon Thibodeau, Kevon, 23 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: How is your preparation mentally for this year different compared 24 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 3: to last year? Second year in the system, or maybe 25 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: you're fine tuning a little bit more than learning from scratch. 26 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 4: I think it was good. 27 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: I got a lot of time off now, you know, 28 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: I get to really reflect and see everything that I 29 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: did last year, not just the good but also the bad, 30 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: mainly the bad, and you know, starting to understand where 31 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: my places of improvement, you know, and really honing in on, 32 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: you know, things I can get better at. 33 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: So when you reflected, what did you say, just. 34 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: You know, trying to you know, I played a lot 35 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: of snaps as a rookie, don't really you know, you 36 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: don't assume right out the gates you're gonna play so 37 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: many snaps. So now understanding that, you know, that is 38 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: my role on the team, and knowing how to perfect 39 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: it rightn minimalize you know, the mistakes I've had and 40 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: start to really make the best of each, you know, play. 41 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: I'm out there, you know, watching you from the outside 42 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: during the season. We could almost see you getting healthier 43 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: as a season went along. Did that almost happen in 44 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: you know, step with you figuring things out mentally too, 45 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: So everything kind of just started clicking at the same 46 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: time as you got deeper into the year. 47 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, you know, me getting hurt. You know, 48 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: I think it was like preseason. It actually kind of 49 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, it prolonged my growth, right, but now having 50 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: that year under my belt, it gave me a you know, 51 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: a large understanding of what the NFL is about and 52 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: you know what I need to do to continuously succeed. 53 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: So you went into the workshop this offseason, what were 54 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: you working on? 55 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: I would say it was it was three fastest of 56 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: the game. It was the pass rusher, was the run stop, 57 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: and then it was you know, the situations, right. I 58 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: think you know, football is about situations, and when you 59 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: can learn to master them and start to pick. 60 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 4: Up tendencies of the other team, you can really heighten 61 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 4: your game. 62 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: When you spoke to the media a couple weeks ago, 63 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 3: you kind of talked philosophically about being a pass rusher 64 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: and the importance of sacks, And I think you're thinking 65 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: about exactly the right way, because when you look at sacks, 66 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: you getting a sack has so much more to do 67 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: with what's going on around you than what you're doing. 68 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: What allowed you to kind of come to that realization 69 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: and figure that out. 70 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like even a guy like Dexter Lawrence, 71 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: he had a great year last year, but you know 72 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: that came with the help of you know, the two 73 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: edge rushers and being able to keep the quarterback in 74 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: the pocket. And you know, I think we kind of 75 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: work as a unit. You know, no man's greater than 76 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: the team. So just being able to again just find 77 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: find that fit and find that niche and start to 78 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: unlock the moves that I have and start to really 79 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, put it on display. 80 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: And what way do you have to adjust your pass 81 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: rush plan based on what's called right? Because I think 82 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 3: you know, if you're showing a blitz, you know, the 83 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: quarterbacks and I trying to get the ball quick, right, 84 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 3: so you kind of do so can just talk about 85 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: how you figure that out. 86 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: And that's that's that next step. 87 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: You know, I started to pay attention to this offseason, 88 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: and it's really about protections, right, learning what the offensive 89 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: line seeds with the quarterback seas when they when we 90 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: show different looks. So once you kind of master the 91 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: opponents decision making it'll help the rush. 92 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: So knowing that if. 93 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: We do show a blitz look, I'll have to go 94 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: into a kind of a faster speed rush or you know, 95 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: a rush that will get me there now versus us 96 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: showing off and quarterback thinking he has more time and 97 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, being able to do longer pass rush moves. 98 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: We know this offense can create pressure as well, but 99 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: does it also something thats make it tougher to get 100 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: sacks because the quarterback knows so many guys are coming 101 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: that their clocks so much faster, they just not holding 102 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: the ball to give you time to get that. 103 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I just actually saw that there was 104 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: a statistic that you know, quarterbacks held the ball with 105 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: less time with us than they've done with any other team. 106 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: So just understand that we've been screening more than any 107 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: other team in the NFL. So just knowing that, you know, 108 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: obviously there's less opportunities for sacks, but I think with me, 109 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: it's still being able to maximize, you know, the plays 110 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: that I'm out there, maximize my efficiency. 111 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: And it's also a team thing too. I feel like 112 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: the sacks on this team gets spread. 113 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: Out a lot. 114 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: When you got everyone gets to play a little bit 115 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: right exactly. 116 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: And how does that help the defense be successful as. 117 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 4: A group, you know, because that's the thing. It's all 118 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 4: about team success. 119 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: So just having guys make plays, it creates one the 120 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: camaraderie to the team chemistry, right, being able to celebrate 121 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: other guys, being able to be happy for other guys, 122 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: and then it gives everybody some love. So there's not like, 123 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, somebody on the island not really making plays, 124 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: but now that everybody gets it, we kind of all 125 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: share that same happiness and excitement. 126 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: You know, by the time the end of the game 127 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: comes final question. 128 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: You don't have to give me numbers, but if you 129 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 3: said that any other team or individual goals that you're 130 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: looking to achieve this year as a second year player 131 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 3: in this defense. 132 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean me, I say every year, I'm trying to 133 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. So super Bowl still at the 134 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: top of my list. 135 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 3: Good goal, yeah, von good stuff man, Thank you, thank 136 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 3: you all right, and now we're joined by giants, Edge Rusher, 137 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: Timan Fox, Tamon How are you man? 138 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 5: I'm great man. 139 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: How are you so? 140 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: Put the mirror on your rookie season? What did you 141 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: get out of it? What was your opinion on kind 142 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: of how the whole thing went. 143 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 6: Uh, it played out like how I expected to. I 144 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 6: end up finding a role after making the roster, and 145 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 6: it's just how to be available to do the most 146 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 6: I can with the opportunities. 147 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 5: That they gave me. 148 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 6: What did you learn from it? Just always be ready? 149 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 6: You know, you never know when the coaches are going 150 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 6: to have you in the situation. You have to be 151 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 6: able to learn from other players and they have to 152 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 6: be able to learn from you. 153 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: How did they mute expect Because everyone, I'm sure thinks 154 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: about what the NFL is going to be like when 155 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 3: you get there, right, how did it compare to kind 156 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: of what you thought it was going to be. 157 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 6: I think people come into the NFL thinking thinking about it, 158 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 6: making it seem like it's going to be harder on 159 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 6: themselves than what it actually is. Because especially I have 160 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 6: a great group of guys, are great coaches like we 161 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 6: have here with the Giants, just made it an easier transition. 162 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: So when you figured out your role on exactly how 163 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: they were going to use you, how did you kind 164 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: of adjust your training and your approach so you could 165 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: fit what role Wink. 166 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: Kind of had carved out for you in his defense. 167 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 6: It's just special teams was a huge priority for me. 168 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 6: And then as terms for defense, I just had to 169 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 6: stay ready, just be They want you to be as 170 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 6: good as the starters. You know, there's wanted to no 171 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 6: drop off. That way, when you're able to go in 172 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 6: give a guy a blow, you know, you don't have 173 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 6: to worry about any like misperformance on the field. 174 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: And I think the way he blitzes everyone, Yeah, everyone's 175 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: been ready to blitz. But that also means everyone has 176 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: to be ready to cover, right because if they're coming 177 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: heavy from the other side. 178 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: You got to drop. Yeah, So how did you kind 179 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: of adjust that that multi faceted role where you kind 180 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: of have to be ready to do everything. 181 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really just learning the defense, knowing roads because 182 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 6: you know, you could be any position at any time. 183 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 6: It's not like I'm a outside linebacker, so I'm a 184 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 6: arrested quarterback. No, I'm a ousive linebacker. I might be 185 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 6: lining up at middle linebacker or something like that. So 186 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 6: just having to be ready for everything, just knowing the 187 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 6: totality of the defense. 188 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: Had you been in that really truly position less type 189 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: of defense before, like the way where Wing runs it. 190 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 6: No, I have not, man as you just from a 191 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 6: DN to outside linebacker and they just stayed those positions. 192 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: So what were your big goals at heading into the 193 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: season when you kind of went into the shop and 194 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: you worked on your craft. Where were you really trying 195 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: to get better? 196 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 5: Uh? 197 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 6: Trying to get better in my you know, open field, 198 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 6: moving the space, change the direction of those kind of things, 199 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 6: just because you know you're not just running the straight 200 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 6: line anymore. 201 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 5: You have to do a lot more. 202 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: How do you disease? 203 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 5: In? 204 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: Kievan and Jahad and all the other guys in your 205 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: room kind of lean on each other to try to 206 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: get better. 207 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 6: The first thing is for just the positivity we have 208 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 6: in our room, Like we don't let anybody hold our 209 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 6: heads down, and we're just quick to hold each other combo. 210 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 6: If you know, noticed something might be something doing wrong, 211 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 6: quick to point it out. But you know in a 212 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 6: constructive way. You're not hard too hard on each other. 213 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: Sure. 214 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 6: And then the big person that we always say is Jahad. 215 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 6: Really he's the one to always say something to somebody. 216 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: Oh he's always saying something exactly, always saying something to somebody. 217 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: Good stuff. Man, We appreciate the time, all right, thank you. 218 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: Now we're joined by giants, edge, sure, defensive lineman, a 219 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: little bit of everything. 220 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: Jahad Ward jahod. How are you man? 221 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 5: What's up cha? How you doing? 222 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: I'm doing great, dude. How are you talk about your 223 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: room a little bit? You've added some pieces there, little 224 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: growth from last year. This year the younger guys get 225 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: a little bit older. How do you see that group 226 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: kind of heading into twenty twenty three? 227 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 5: Oh? 228 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel we're going with weather the storm. To 229 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 7: be honest with you, you know, I like I like this 230 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 7: offensive group. I ain't gonna hold you it is. This 231 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 7: offense group is nice. You know, I could go on 232 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 7: and on with defense, but I'm very excited about this 233 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 7: offensive group. You got Paris Campbell, we got Darren Waller 234 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 7: and stuff like that. It's too much. There's too much 235 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 7: dogs in that offensive group. So I just can't wait 236 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 7: to see it. 237 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: All right, Well, I mean, defense guy, I want to 238 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: talk about the offense and I'm gonna take advantage of this. 239 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: So tell me why is this offensive group so impressive 240 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: to you when you watch him and you play against 241 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: him in seven on sevens? 242 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a bunch of uh, it's a lot of control. 243 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 7: Everything is more. It's dumb, you know what I mean. 244 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 7: It's just like you know, dway Damie Jones handled that offense. Man, 245 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 7: he you know what I mean. As I've seen him 246 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 7: since last year, he took control. But now he just 247 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 7: he really taking control everything. You know, everybody just dialing in, 248 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 7: everybody just coming together as once, so you know what 249 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 7: I mean. 250 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 5: So I just feel like it's a it's a good piece, you. 251 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 252 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 7: Darren Waller is definitely a great, great piece of this offense, 253 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. That way Daniel Belicher can 254 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 7: no I want to say, look up to him, but 255 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 7: you know they can feed off each other, and so 256 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 7: and so many dogs. 257 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 5: I can go on and on with. 258 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 7: So many offensive pieces, you know, I mean, do out 259 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 7: that offense. And it's a lot of people that's that 260 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 7: was unhealthy coming back and it's gonna be real scary. 261 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 5: So you know, I'm just decided about everybody. 262 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 3: So all right, we'll put me in the position of 263 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: a defender trying to defend Daniel Jones. What makes him 264 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: hard to defend against. 265 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 5: Recoverages and stuff like that. 266 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 7: He make his own plays and you're not afraid to 267 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 7: call his own calls and stuff like that. If you 268 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 7: see something, you know, you know, usually coach, they just 269 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 7: let him like be himself out there, so you know, 270 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 7: he's not afraid to make a call, and he you 271 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 7: know what I mean, and he just ready to set 272 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 7: the tone. He reads everybody and he going to find 273 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 7: every find every way to get your weakness, especially when 274 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 7: he reached the defense. 275 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: So you know, let's get to your position group. 276 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: Where do you see the career trajectories right now of 277 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: Azizo Julari and Kevon Thibodeau. Is that head into their 278 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 3: third and second years respectively. 279 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 7: They're gonna weather the storm too, you know what i mean. 280 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 7: We feed off all into each other, you know what 281 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 7: i mean. So keve On he's a beast, you know 282 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 7: what I mean, he got the little first butterfly year 283 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 7: out the way. You know what I'm saying. We got 284 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 7: a ziz you know, I mean, he's a dog himself. 285 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 7: So with them two guys, you know what I mean, 286 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 7: I'm excited, you know what i mean. You know, and 287 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 7: they're getting older, they get more mature, at his at 288 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 7: his football, you. 289 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 5: Know, NFL and stuff like that. 290 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 7: So it's just like I'm just excited for that, and 291 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 7: I'm very very proud of them and all the stuff 292 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 7: that they learned, you know, I mean, it was a 293 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 7: lot of adversity. I'm glad that they handle adversity throughout 294 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 7: the first year, you know what I mean, learning habits, past, rushing, 295 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 7: stopping a run, and I can go on and on 296 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 7: and stuff like that. So you know, I'm just thankful 297 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 7: to have another year with them. 298 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 5: Guys. 299 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: We have such a respect for how you play the game. 300 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: We talk about it on our programming all the time 301 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: because you know, people want the show. 302 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: Plays blitzes, the sacks and everything. 303 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: You do the dirty work and you're damn good at it, 304 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 3: like setting the edge on defense, your great edgesetter. What 305 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: what makes a player a great edge ctter on defense? 306 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: Playing the run that's coming outside off tackle, outside zone 307 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: makes a player still good at that? 308 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 5: You know, you just got to just read your key. 309 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 7: It's all about techniques and stuff like that, and it's 310 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 7: all about the fundamental of the game. And uh, you know, uh, 311 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 7: my goal is to disrupt, you know what I mean, 312 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 7: as you guys can see that from my last experience 313 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 7: last year and stuff like that, and it's it's all 314 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 7: about It's all about fundamentals, you know, I mean with 315 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 7: down blocks, reach blocks and stuff like that, and really 316 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 7: just learning all the techniques you can find, you know 317 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 7: what I mean. So if I see some stuff, really 318 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 7: is really a feel for it. I know this sound 319 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 7: kind of weird, but I just feel for it in 320 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 7: the grass like you know, like cracked tosss and stuff 321 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 7: like that, you know, plunge blocks as I could go on, 322 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 7: polls all that, poles and stuff like. It's just a 323 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 7: feel for it, you know what I mean. So what 324 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 7: I do is I just a lot of people like 325 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 7: to do a lot of zone reads and stuff like that. 326 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 7: I just I'm just here to disrupt, you know what 327 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 7: I mean. I just want to just excuse my lens. 328 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 7: I just want to fun some shit up, you. 329 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: Know, absolutely, And you know what, I think. That's what 330 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: Wink wants you to do too, by the way, so 331 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: I think he's pretty happy with it. 332 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been in Wings defense before. 333 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: Obviously, second year now in the system, how does that 334 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: help free guy's minds a little bit to play a 335 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: little bit more naturally, understanding exactly what he wants a 336 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: little bit better the second year in the system, So 337 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: you know, the guys that have been here for two 338 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: years now can kind of come together and continue to 339 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: play better well everybody. 340 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 7: You know, usually when you go to a certain defenses, 341 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 7: you learn one position. 342 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 5: You know what I mean. This is the most versatile 343 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 5: defense that you'll ever be in the NFL. You know 344 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 5: what I mean. I can go on and on. I 345 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 5: play nose in this defense. 346 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 7: I can play nose, I can play three techniques, sam 347 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 7: Lineberker outside linebacker. 348 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 2: It's truly positionless and you. 349 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 7: See me drop plenty of times, you know, Mike Dom 350 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 7: I could go on and on, you know what i mean. 351 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 5: And that's that's the whole. 352 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 7: Crazy part about this, this whole scheme, you know what 353 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 7: I mean, you have to know if you want to 354 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 7: be a great player, you just got to know everybody's position, 355 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 7: you know what I mean, where the strength is coming to, 356 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 7: and you know what I mean with everything. So I'm 357 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 7: just blessed to know are everybody what they're doing and 358 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 7: stuff like that. You know, the goal for me in 359 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 7: the long run is that really dominate in every position. 360 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 7: That was always my goal with no matter what position 361 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 7: I'm in, you know, I mean, I'm gonna continue to 362 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 7: pursue that goal. But you know what I mean, will 363 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 7: Wink with this defense, man, it's really had made my 364 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 7: career successful and I'm here to weather the storm to 365 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 7: keep going with this, with this game of the defense. 366 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: How good stuff? 367 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 4: Man? 368 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: Can wait? Do you sit on the field, my man? 369 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 5: Thank y'all? Man go giants? 370 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: All right, and now we're joined by giants. I guess 371 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: I'll call you and edge rusher Ellison Smith Olsen. How 372 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: you doing man, good man? How you doing doing well? 373 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 3: Know, unfortunately you've had to deal with some frustration right 374 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: the last couple of years. Talk about kind of mentally, 375 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: how you've kind of dealt with and tried to work 376 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: through all that. 377 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think what else can get through? Like the 378 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 8: last couple of years, it's kind of just been, you know, 379 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 8: appreciating the moment and acknowledging that it's football, so like 380 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 8: injuries are inevitable. I was very lucky throughout college and 381 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 8: high school to never have like a serious injury, and 382 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 8: I kind of just been stacking up the last couple 383 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 8: of years, so, you know, just trying to take it 384 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 8: day by day, keep it pretty lighthearted. It's not the 385 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 8: end of the world, but you know, just making sure 386 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 8: I'm working on what I can to get better so 387 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 8: I can play. 388 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, how have you mentally? 389 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 3: It is the mental part is almost as hard as 390 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: a physical part with that sort of stuff, Right, So 391 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: how have you kind of worked through all that? 392 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: No, it really is. 393 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 8: I like never appreciated that until at my first surgery, 394 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 8: where it's like getting the confidence back after surgery is 395 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 8: extremely tedious process. It's like, you know, your strength can 396 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 8: be good, your like mobility can be good and all that, 397 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 8: but like to mentally trust yourself that you're like at 398 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 8: an achilles, that your achilles isn't gonna go out again 399 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 8: or anything like that. It's hard, but uh, you know, 400 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 8: we have good resources here with doctor Lennie Lawrence. She's 401 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 8: helped me throughout the process of rehabing and that's been 402 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 8: super cool. So yeah, it's just been making sure that 403 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 8: I'm doing what I can, being mindful of my actions 404 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 8: and just taking the steps forward to trying to yeah, 405 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 8: just get better and get back on the field. 406 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: And being patient too, right because I'm sure you want 407 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: to go faster than the doctors want you to go. Right. 408 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 8: No, it's a slow, slow process, and yeah, you just 409 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 8: got you got to listen to trainers, you know, keep 410 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 8: doing what you can every day and make sure you're sleeping, eating, 411 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 8: you know, doing all that good stuff, doing all those 412 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 8: little things. 413 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 4: Right. 414 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: So, how hard has it been to work on your 415 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: craft when you're just kind of focusing on your health. 416 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's it's tough because you know, you feel 417 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 8: like you're you're falling behind and you want to feel 418 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 8: like you can you know, develop some skills while you're hurt. 419 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 8: And I think as an edgresser there's like certain things 420 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 8: that can do with like hand fighting and things of 421 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 8: that where I'm standing still and working on those which 422 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 8: I got into. But it's it's a hard thing to 423 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 8: do because you know, you you play football at full 424 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 8: speed and if you can't go full speed, you're not 425 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 8: really getting you know, reps at getting better. So you 426 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 8: have to find a balance and you can you know, 427 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 8: get better watching film and stuff like that too. 428 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: So final question, what are your what are your overall 429 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: goals heading into this year for you personally? 430 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean number one is just you know, be 431 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 8: out there, find a way to contribute or I can, 432 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 8: whether that's teams, you know, on the field wherever I can, 433 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 8: and just making sure that we can win some games 434 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 8: this year and contribute to, you know, my teammates, because 435 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 8: it's been a long time and I feel like i 436 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 8: have some stuff to offer for my team and I'm 437 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 8: excited to do that. 438 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: We're looking forward to seeing that. 439 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Thank you, And now we're joined by 440 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: Giants Edge Rusher Assase. 441 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: What's up man? 442 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 4: What's up? 443 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: Man? 444 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: How you doing good? 445 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 6: So? 446 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: I looked back at your production last year and I 447 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: look at the SAC number and they look at the 448 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: games play and I'm like, whoa that? Like sack per 449 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: game production was was off the chart. So when you 450 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: look at your last year, and we'll get to the 451 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: injury push that aside, when you were on the field, 452 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: how did you think you kind of played and fit 453 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: in with what Wink was trying to have you do. 454 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, when I was on the field, I felt pretty good, man. 455 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 9: I felt perfect with the scheme. How I fit in 456 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 9: was great. And you know, just trying to do my part, 457 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 9: play my role and try to be as effective as 458 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 9: much as I can when I'm out there every game. 459 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: How did you deal with those calf injuries? 460 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 9: She man, it was just a tough stretch for me. 461 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 9: It was just unfortunate. 462 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: It was both both. 463 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: It was both. 464 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 9: It was just so unfortunate for me and I don't 465 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 9: even know what. 466 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 3: And one won't even run hard, right, you just jogging 467 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 3: condition the Jets practice. 468 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I planing it and it just popped on me. Yeah. 469 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 2: I don't know that that happened you before. 470 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 4: I never ever had it happen to me. It was 471 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: my first time. This is crazy. It was a crazy experience, 472 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: my first time ever. 473 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: Were you afraid it was your At first? 474 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 4: I was super scared. I was shocked. 475 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 2: I was, man, did you you feel something to pop 476 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 2: down there? 477 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 4: I saw it. I looked down when I was playing. 478 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 4: I looked down playing. 479 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 9: Oh I saw the popped and I was like, Yo, 480 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 9: was so scared, Man, I was so scared. 481 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: Hey knocked on window. Now you're good, good, and you're 482 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. 483 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 4: Ready to go already, man, I can't wait. 484 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 3: All right, So now all you're doing is focus on football. 485 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: You're healthy. 486 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 2: So tell me what we're going to see from azizo 487 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: Jaara this year? 488 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 9: Man, this year, I'm just focused, ready to go out 489 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 9: there and compete, show y'all what I could do again, 490 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 9: you know, just be there for my teammates. And make 491 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 9: those players need it when it's needed, and just you know, 492 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 9: give it all I got, you know, and just be 493 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 9: be out there, get off the quarterbacks, bring them down, 494 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 9: try to get a ball out. 495 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: We were talking to Kvon and I was joking with them, 496 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 3: you know, keve On. Everyone thinks of the wing defense. 497 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: It creates all this pressure, right, just send all this blitzers. 498 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: You can get to the quarterback. But in a lot 499 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 3: of ways, it almost makes it harder to get sacks. Yeah, right, 500 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: because teams no pressure is coming, and you know it's coming, 501 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: so they're not doing seven step drop back there. They're 502 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: getting the ball out quick. So how do you adjust 503 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: your mindset where obviously get your job to get sacks, 504 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: but sometimes it's out of your control and you can't 505 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: get them. 506 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 9: Nah, at that point, you just gotta just find a 507 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 9: way you could affect the game in other ways, getting 508 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 9: a batter ball, you know, just pushing the tackle in 509 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 9: the quarterback lap of pressures, you know, just ways you 510 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 9: can affect the quarterback in any other way. Again, in 511 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 9: his vision side, just just knowing that you're there. You 512 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 9: know you're gonna get there. But once at one point 513 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 9: in the game you're gonna get there. You gonna let 514 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 9: him know just get you're coming, and then you're coming 515 00:18:59,080 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 9: throughout the whole game. 516 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: How do you adjust your rush plan understanding what the 517 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 3: play you have called and understanding how the offense might 518 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: adjust to that. Do you have to adjust how you're 519 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: rushing so you might know, like, I'm not gonna have 520 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: time to get there if I do like my outside Russell, 521 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: I gotta do so how how have you kind of 522 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: figured out how you adjust your rush plan based on 523 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: the scheme and the play that Wink has called. 524 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 9: Really, man, it's like whatever the call is, it's like 525 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 9: every rush is not going to be the same, So 526 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 9: you have to really go off the call. Whatever type 527 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 9: of call you get, you might be going inside. You 528 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 9: might you might get a five, or you might get 529 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 9: it one on one. You might get a slide, you 530 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 9: might get a slide away from you and you free. 531 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 9: You just never know. You just got to be on 532 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 9: point where everything. He's got to be ready to think 533 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 9: quick and make a decision quick off the. 534 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: Floor and he moves you left side, right side, and 535 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: then you went against the They set you up on 536 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: some guard one on one last year too. I mean 537 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 3: I think I remember the play right, I think it 538 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 3: was against Philadelphia where you use your length and you 539 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 3: got that guard and peddling on skates there. So how 540 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 3: has it helped your game? Wink, moving you around to 541 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 3: try to kind of take advantage of all those skills. 542 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 9: No, it's great because you know, just try to find 543 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 9: a matchup, you know, the matchup. You know, this league 544 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 9: is a matchup league. You know, try to find this 545 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 9: a good matchup and the best matchup for the team. 546 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 9: And when you get that matchup, take advantage of it. 547 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 9: Try to win and make production and get get to 548 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 9: the quarterback, you know, make negative plays. 549 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: You talk about affecting the game in other ways. If 550 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: you don't get the quote unquote, Sack can talk about pressures. 551 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the run game. 552 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: How have you think you improved and what are you 553 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 3: still trying to do to get better against the run? 554 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 9: No, I guess the run you know, really just striking 555 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 9: on the point of attack and getting off the blocks. 556 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 9: That's why I need to definitely just keep working on 557 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 9: and improve. And you know, training camp come up. That's 558 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 9: a big thing, big part you know to striking you know, 559 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 9: the point of attack and get off the blocks. You know, 560 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 9: bigger guys. You know, got to ease your legs and strength. 561 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 9: You gotta use it all in one motion. So that's 562 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 9: one thing on the work office. 563 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: How have you adjusted your off season training, you know, 564 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: based on what you went through last year with the injuries, 565 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: just to stay healthy for one, but also just kind 566 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 3: of you know, people understand how you succeed if you're 567 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: in the pros for a couple years. So how have 568 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 3: you kind of adjusted your training regimen as you guys. 569 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 4: This off season? 570 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 9: I actually went down the group I was usually last 571 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 9: offic season, I was lifting with Drew big Song and 572 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 9: all the bigger guys Old Live Miss. I was, you know, 573 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 9: lifting heavy and stuff. But this year I actually went 574 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 9: down the group. So I was lifting with like the mids, 575 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 9: like Evan ing Evan Ingra was out there Georgia with me. 576 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 9: It was lifting together and stuff. So yeah, so I 577 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 9: went down, you know in that group. So I was 578 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 9: really focused on stability, you know, mobility, you know, just 579 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 9: core strength, and that's one of the biggest things to 580 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 9: keep my balance and my body even So. 581 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: Ready to go out there the same way? Did your 582 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 4: drop weight the same way? 583 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: Same way? 584 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 585 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 9: Really, same weight I'm really around two fifty two fifty five, 586 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 9: no more than that. That's my range and I don't 587 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 9: see myself going any higher than that at all. And yeah, 588 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 9: that's I feel pretty good. 589 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: I think that's too good place for that drusher to 590 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: be for sure. He's good stuff, man. I appreciate it. 591 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 3: Do good luck this year. 592 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 2: That was as o Jaari. I love talking to his ease. 593 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 3: He's so happy all the time and he's smiling, and 594 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 3: I think you have to love that he kind of 595 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: took those injuries last year and adjusted his training regie 596 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: in with all stretching to try to make sure they 597 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: don't happen again. And that's what the great players do, 598 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: and we hope to see how those adjustments can keep 599 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: them healthy in twenty twenty three and the combination of 600 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 3: he and Thibodeau, you know, Johd Ward, always charismatic, is 601 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 3: veteran president stopping the run and YO hope agets the 602 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: laws and Smith back on the field at some point too. 603 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 3: Thanks for being with us in the Giants Little Podcast. 604 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: I'm John Schmilck. We'll see you next time.