Speaker 1: Warning, today's episode contain's spoilers for the first two episodes
Speaker 1: of the charming Star Wars Skeleton Crew. Oh my name
Speaker 1: is Jason Getzepsion and joining us today, we have some
Speaker 1: special but also comforting guests.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm Joe Lane.
Speaker 3: And I'm Aaron Kaufman, and.
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Speaker 1: we dive deep bitty of very Joe's movies, comments, and
Speaker 1: pop culture. Coming from Myron Podcasts. We're bringing you three
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Speaker 1: Today's episodes we're reacting to the first two episodes, wonderful
Speaker 1: episodes of Disney's latest Star Wars show, Skeleton Crewe and
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. We're gonna be jumping out of the airlock
Speaker 1: to talk about Skeleton Crew episodes one and two coming up. Now,
Speaker 1: all right, let's start. Do we open in the year nine?
Speaker 1: Ab y folks. The Empire is fallen, the New Republic
Speaker 1: is solidifying it's governmental infrastructure across the galaxy, and it's
Speaker 1: a little messy, but that's what democracy is. It's a
Speaker 1: little messier because everybody has a voice, but it is
Speaker 1: messy and in particular intergalactic travel. Intergalactic cargo is being
Speaker 1: preyed upon by piracy, which remains a massive problem in
Speaker 1: the New Republic era. We open in space, a pirate
Speaker 1: vessel attacks a cargo ship. The pirates board. There's a
Speaker 1: big firefight, but the pirates win. They get into the
Speaker 1: vault at the best of apparently their captain. Do we
Speaker 1: do we think that this helmeted gentlemen who spoiler alert
Speaker 1: is Jude Law's character and you can kind of tell
Speaker 1: through the through the yeah, yeah, but he appears to
Speaker 1: be the captain of this of this particular pirate crew, right,
Speaker 1: and he clearly has sold them a bill of goods,
Speaker 1: which is we're going to attack this ship. This ship
Speaker 1: has it purports to be just carrying fruits and vegetables
Speaker 1: and what have you. But there's a magnetic vault on it,
Speaker 1: which can only mean massive, massive wealth within this ship.
Speaker 1: But they cut open the vault and there's one measly
Speaker 1: credit inside. And so now the pirates, including a wolfman
Speaker 1: named Brutus, is first of all awesome, I have we
Speaker 1: have not seen a live action wolfman since Star Wars,
Speaker 1: and only briefly in the CANTEENA correct me some someone
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. Although he's The Wolfmen have made appearances
Speaker 1: in other formats, including the comics, but awesome, awesome to
Speaker 1: see one and they're all pissed at Jude Law and
Speaker 1: they start just beating the brakes off this guy. We
Speaker 1: go elsewhere to a planet that we don't know the
Speaker 1: name of yet we will eventually, and we meet Whim,
Speaker 1: a young human who is getting ready for school. His father, Wendel,
Speaker 1: is a single dad, played shockingly for fans of mid
Speaker 1: aught indie rock by t Brooklyn's TV on the radio
Speaker 1: Frontman tun Day at a Bimbay Anyone like Me, any
Speaker 1: other TV on the radio.
Speaker 3: Heads out there did not expect a Pitchfork favorite to
Speaker 3: be in the new Star Wars show.
Speaker 1: He's been in other stuff. He was in, Oh, what's
Speaker 1: the Anne Hathaway wedding film? That's very good, Rachel get married.
Speaker 2: He's in that.
Speaker 1: He's been in other stuff, but like it. I was
Speaker 1: like I had to pause and like gather myself. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 2: The dead.
Speaker 1: Anyway, dad is very very busy, and he leaves his
Speaker 1: son with like a pile of credits and leaves, which
Speaker 1: leads me to ask the group, shouldn't the Republic and
Speaker 1: shouldn't the Empire before them have figured out a more
Speaker 1: efficient currency format, because it just feels like a big
Speaker 1: like pile of dou balloons is not necessarily It was great,
Speaker 1: by the way, for this particular story, absolutely, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's I don't know if it's the
Speaker 1: medium for intergalactic trade that you're looking for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have like a kid's credit card version
Speaker 3: of the visa bucks or whatever.
Speaker 4: They're trading everything else on like little floppy disc esque technology.
Speaker 4: I feel you could absolutely have digital currency at this point.
Speaker 2: Get it together, Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Come on, Yeah, I get it together. Wim lives in
Speaker 1: a really well laid out and picturesque suburban settlement on
Speaker 1: whatever planet this is. He's on his way to school.
Speaker 1: He runs into his friend Neil, who is an Ordolan,
Speaker 1: one of the elephant species of Star Wars. I believe
Speaker 1: the keyboard player in the Max. I believe Max Rebo
Speaker 1: is an Orderland. Is that not the is that?
Speaker 4: So there's there's believe that this is not an Orland.
Speaker 4: Max Fewill is one This that's a little more expressive,
Speaker 4: a little different, and the I believe the creator and
Speaker 4: the showrunner have both confirmed that this is a different species.
Speaker 2: But I don't think we know what this species is yet.
Speaker 3: Okay, I see and thank god he's more expressive because
Speaker 3: Neil's eyes are my MVP of episode one for sure.
Speaker 3: Neil Is is absolutely the runaway MVP of the series
Speaker 3: thus far. Neil and Whim are obsessed with Jedis. They
Speaker 3: get on the bus and out the window, Whim sees
Speaker 3: two girls whip by on a speeder which another fun
Speaker 3: fact about this particular planet is their currency is big
Speaker 3: gold coins, and kids can drive vehicles at excessive rates
Speaker 3: of speed on highways that look like it could just
Speaker 3: be like Houston, Texas. Like the on ramps and off
Speaker 3: ramps feel very like basic metropolitan highway here.
Speaker 1: Listen, school is boring, we get it. Classes boring, the
Speaker 1: teachers are very boring droids but no personalities. Wim gets
Speaker 1: caught dueling instead of paying attention by the guest speaker
Speaker 1: of the class this particular day, and that is Under
Speaker 1: Secretary Pharah of the New Republic. She comes to address
Speaker 1: the class about the Career Assessment Test, which is tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Career Assessment Test just like it sounds. It's like it
Speaker 1: sounds like kind of like O levels. I guess, like
Speaker 1: in England, it's like, this is the test you take
Speaker 1: that will basically set you up for your career and
Speaker 1: lock you in for life.
Speaker 2: Did you guys have to do career aptitude tests?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, I never did, did you know?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah absolutely?
Speaker 4: Right after Squared Dancing, they were like, okay, here's the
Speaker 4: career aptitude test and it'll tell you what jobs you
Speaker 4: should look at in the future. But it's a very
Speaker 4: dumb test. It's sort of like taking a Yahoo test
Speaker 4: where you're like, I kind of know what the answers
Speaker 4: are gonna Do you like writing?
Speaker 2: Do you journal a lot? I was gonna be a writer?
Speaker 3: Is like, which of these answers makes me a Jedi? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll answer yes to all that I wish.
Speaker 1: Right, Sofa asks, you know, it goes around the classes
Speaker 1: like what do you want to do? What are you
Speaker 1: interested in? And she calls on whim who's like trying
Speaker 1: to hide from answering, and he basically says like I,
Speaker 1: in not so many words, I would like to be
Speaker 1: a Jedi. I want to help people when they're in danger.
Speaker 1: I want to It's been interesting. This is the first
Speaker 1: Star Wars that I can recall in which Jedis are
Speaker 1: like famous, famous, because it seems to me previously, it
Speaker 1: seems to me previously that it's like Jedi, who what?
Speaker 1: What are they?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: They did they even exist? What's going on with them?
Speaker 1: This is super interesting to me, and I hope they
Speaker 1: explain it in detail, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hypothesizing if we're nine years after the Battle
Speaker 4: of Jevan and we understand that Luke eventually goes on
Speaker 4: to build a Jedi school. Okay, at first I was prickly,
Speaker 4: and then I was like, Okay, well it's a little different.
Speaker 2: We haven't really been here before.
Speaker 4: But we'll pick this conversation up when we're recapping the
Speaker 4: second episode, because then there's a wrench, right that makes
Speaker 4: me question all of that then.
Speaker 1: Because I yeah, because there's that, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: get to that wrench, because I think the wrench might
Speaker 1: have something to do with explaining why Jedis are so
Speaker 1: much more well known on this particular planet. Anyway, Wim
Speaker 1: is stressed about the assessment because he completely forgot about it.
Speaker 1: We learned that Neil has a crush on a particular
Speaker 1: student named Runa Neil Roswim for saying he wants to
Speaker 1: be a Jedi. And elsewhere we meet the girls Fern
Speaker 1: and KB. They're on their speeder. They are driving again
Speaker 1: at excessive speed and extremely irresponsibly. They are how they
Speaker 1: are allowed to drive like this, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: their speeder breaks down and they end up having to
Speaker 1: walk it home. Elsewhere, Wim watches Neil get welcomed home
Speaker 1: by his large and loving and very active family, and
Speaker 1: then Wim goes home to an empty house and he's
Speaker 1: very sad. It's wonderful and they all seem to get along.
Speaker 3: Yes, everyone's excited. Neil's home, a parent is home.
Speaker 1: And they're all watching TV together and playing together. And
Speaker 1: then Wim goes home to like his iPad and his
Speaker 1: darkened house. This is like a very gen X coded story,
Speaker 1: not just in the fact that, like we're obviously calling
Speaker 1: on Spielbergian tones et the Goonies, these kinds of kids
Speaker 1: on their bikes alone nobody watching them kind of feel.
Speaker 1: But this latchkey kid thing too feels very specifically gen X.
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty smart.
Speaker 4: Also, the single parent household element, yes, very gen X
Speaker 4: of like my family is not a whole sort of situation.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I really feel I feel like we get
Speaker 4: a lot of insight into this little dude. I wim
Speaker 4: is maybe the most charming name for a care character
Speaker 4: like this ever. And the minute they were like yeah,
Speaker 4: he's whom I was like, Oh no, I love the
Speaker 4: sleep Baby. Please protect him at all. Cough, I'm worried
Speaker 4: about him. He's courting danger too much.
Speaker 1: At home. KB, who is the one of the girls
Speaker 1: of the pair who wears the kind of like Jordi
Speaker 1: from Star Trek the next Generation type visor, is trying
Speaker 1: to fix the speeder. More on this later, because it
Speaker 1: feels like KB is the one who knows how to
Speaker 1: do everything, but somehow Fern is always in the lead. Okay,
Speaker 1: but she can't fix it. They need a power converter,
Speaker 1: and apparently they really need it because Fern has a
Speaker 1: upcoming race against like the cool kid Bullies who are
Speaker 1: just like they come by and they're just like, we're
Speaker 1: gonna beat your ass at this race.
Speaker 2: You better be there.
Speaker 3: The cool kid Bullies, who is like one older kid
Speaker 3: and then two little kids in the sidecar too. It's
Speaker 3: the least intimidating look of a bullet, ever, but still
Speaker 3: very charming.
Speaker 1: It seems like the girls are new to the planet. Also,
Speaker 1: Fern goes home late. He convinces she convinces her droid
Speaker 1: to lie to her mom that she was actually home
Speaker 1: all the time and she was just doing homework and
Speaker 1: we learned that her mom is under Secretary of Farah.
Speaker 1: And of course Mom is very much like, Hey, assessment test,
Speaker 1: you got to kill it. Dad returns home to find
Speaker 1: Whim cramming for the test. Wim is like, will you
Speaker 1: read me a bedtime story like mom used to do?
Speaker 1: And Dad is like no, and also, aren't you too
Speaker 1: old for.
Speaker 2: This toxic masculinity? E late this kid, this wasn't spend
Speaker 2: time with you, dad, Jesus.
Speaker 1: I agree with the note that when you just like
Speaker 1: learn to read and read on your own, but also
Speaker 1: hang out with your son you've been not been home
Speaker 1: all day, do something else you don't you know, do
Speaker 1: another thing, but like hang over with your kid.
Speaker 2: What is happening here?
Speaker 1: Anyway? Wim gets on his iPad and reads his Jedi book.
Speaker 1: The next day, Whim misses the bus very bad because
Speaker 1: it's test day. He grabs a speeder from the garage
Speaker 1: and takes the short cut that he saw Fern and
Speaker 1: KB take the previous morning. Neil, a great friend, tries
Speaker 1: to delay the test to no avail. Of course, the
Speaker 1: short cut through the woods is like extremely treacherous, and
Speaker 1: Wim crashes into a gully, tries to climb out of
Speaker 1: the gully, and as he is climbing, he discovers like
Speaker 1: a strange hatch buried in the mud. A school attends
Speaker 1: at Droid finds him because he's within sight of the school.
Speaker 1: He's probably I don't know, judging by like CGI distances,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing he's like a mile and a half from
Speaker 1: the school, but like close enough that a Droid could
Speaker 1: pick up his chain code, I guess, and be like,
Speaker 1: where is this kid? The Droid takes him to school.
Speaker 1: He has to sit in the hallway to talk to
Speaker 1: what is their version of the principal, the procter. He's
Speaker 1: looking through his Jedi book, looking because he feels like
Speaker 1: this must be a Jedi temble. He's looking for symbology
Speaker 1: that could tie what he knows about Jedi to this
Speaker 1: thing that he found. And then Fern comes and sits
Speaker 1: down next to him, and she's in trouble for something.
Speaker 1: Whim missed the test. Fern isn't for racing bikes. Whim
Speaker 1: is like I saw you racing. Fern is like, you know,
Speaker 1: the last kid who missed the test was taken to
Speaker 1: work in the mines and he died down there. And
Speaker 1: we learned from this that Fern is a loves to
Speaker 1: tell these tall tales, big tall tale. Tell her dad
Speaker 1: arrives and he's pissed. He's like, first of all, I
Speaker 1: had to leave work, which is crazy. Second of all,
Speaker 1: you missed the test, and now you're fucked because you
Speaker 1: have to get a perfect score on the test to
Speaker 1: even pass. Do you even just.
Speaker 4: Get like how crazy this is what you're be like,
Speaker 4: you could the best you could hope for is an
Speaker 4: F what like or maybe like a D minus fifty.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're like grading on a scale
Speaker 4: or what it is, but if if they were using
Speaker 4: American test standards, that would still be considered a failing grade.
Speaker 4: And I was like, why, why said the kid up
Speaker 4: to he can't have a fair shot?
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I know this is like extremely I disagree with all
Speaker 1: of this, and not to mention some of the most
Speaker 1: famous people that and successful people that we've seen in
Speaker 1: this universe did not go to school. Unclear, like Luke
Speaker 1: can he read? I don't actually know.
Speaker 4: It's giving empire like this first of all, yeah, and
Speaker 4: I don't know if Luke has ever picked up a
Speaker 4: book and well wait, see he gets the.
Speaker 2: Jedi text later when does.
Speaker 1: He learn once he gets there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, eventually he gets there, but that it might have
Speaker 4: come after saving the galaxy, which is fair. But I
Speaker 4: think like this school system is giving empire and like
Speaker 4: you need to be coded and classified into all of
Speaker 4: the kids that the jobs they shouted out were boring
Speaker 4: as hell to They were like I.
Speaker 1: Want to be an analysts, Like, okay, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Kids? So I having to imagination.
Speaker 1: In a big conversation about the test, Wim is trying
Speaker 1: to tell his dad about this Jedi temple he found,
Speaker 1: and Fern is very curious about this. It's like, wait
Speaker 1: a second, say more about that. And Wim realizing now
Speaker 1: that he may have given up too much information to
Speaker 1: a stranger regarding something that he wants to explore on
Speaker 1: his own with Neil and not with some person that
Speaker 1: he encountered in the hallways like that that wasn't true.
Speaker 2: That was a lie.
Speaker 1: Wim goes to see Neil later, climbs up on the skylight,
Speaker 1: sees Neil bathing, which is crazy, huge bath to that family,
Speaker 1: get a huge math, but also like this is a
Speaker 1: private woman for you. Wim, come down.
Speaker 2: My guy.
Speaker 3: Did you guys have skylights when you're growing up?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Did anyone ever climb up your roof?
Speaker 1: And so Wim gets Neil to help him, of course,
Speaker 1: investigate the temple. When they arrived there, I guess what.
Speaker 1: Fern and KB are already there and they're like, we're involved
Speaker 1: in this, whether you like it or not. They have
Speaker 1: like a bit of a tussle about whose actual claim
Speaker 1: in a very charming scene holds authority, in which they're like, no,
Speaker 1: I claim it, I claim it. Fern wants to like
Speaker 1: find she needs that power converter. She's hoping one's in there.
Speaker 1: Probably one is in there. She lies though, and says
Speaker 1: that this is probably some kind of like cannibal sewer
Speaker 1: thing absolute queen of tall tales. Eventually they agree to
Speaker 1: a tenuous alliance to explore this. That night Dad comes home,
Speaker 1: it's like the garage is open, the house is dark. Whim,
Speaker 1: where the fuck are you? Where they are is digging
Speaker 1: into the dirt to like unearth this thing. KB gets
Speaker 1: it open, because again, KB is the one who knows
Speaker 1: how to do stuff in this tenuous alliance of four kids.
Speaker 1: And they go inside. But well, they're about to go
Speaker 1: inside when Whim's dad shows up. Inside the hatch, they
Speaker 1: find like a rectroid caught it a booby trap. And
Speaker 1: this is where I'm like, oh, I get it. This
Speaker 1: is goonies in space.
Speaker 4: I love it absolutely fu getting them in the design
Speaker 4: of this bottle is so cool, oh.
Speaker 3: Man with an unlimited supply of little rats to come
Speaker 3: out of its eye too.
Speaker 1: Throughout the next couple episodes, Oh my god, the kids
Speaker 1: accidentally trigger the door. Really Wim does, and now they're trapped.
Speaker 1: KB suggests, like in a video game, follow these wires
Speaker 1: and we will find the source of power. Meanwhile, Wim
Speaker 1: is just dropping Jedi facts as they're exploring. KB and
Speaker 1: Fern are leading the way. Wim is frustrated because Neil
Speaker 1: is like getting nervous and is like, I just kind
Speaker 1: of want to go home, Like this is your idea,
Speaker 1: I'm not into this, and Wim is like what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? This is like the greatest thing that's
Speaker 1: ever happened to any of us. This is like the
Speaker 1: best And he goes off to explore KB. In what
Speaker 1: will again is part of a theme, KB gets the
Speaker 1: power back on, they discover their ship elsewhere, Whim is
Speaker 1: like on the bridge. He is flipping fucking switches and
Speaker 1: pushing buttons and putting on headsets. I prefer it as like, stop,
Speaker 1: don't touch anything.
Speaker 2: What are you doing.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the hatch and leave. Whim sees
Speaker 1: a fucking blinking light and he presses it because this
Speaker 1: kid like amped up for adventure, and of course the
Speaker 1: ship takes off. They peek out of the hatch, they
Speaker 1: see fucking Whim's dad. He's like waving at them, like
Speaker 1: what do you Wim nearly falls off, the ship almost dies.
Speaker 1: The kids pull them back inside and next thing you know,
Speaker 1: hyperspace is achieved and they are flying away. That is
Speaker 1: the end of Act one. That is the end of
Speaker 1: our little talk. Be back with you after a word
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: We're back a charming start. No, Joelle Aaron I say
Speaker 1: like already I'm in.
Speaker 4: Freakingly delightful my huggles were up because Skeleton Crew was
Speaker 4: such a dope name for a show. And then they're like,
Speaker 4: but it's a kid's show, I said, not.
Speaker 2: A horror Star Wars.
Speaker 4: I was okay, so I had to adjusted expectations. Luckily
Speaker 4: they gave me a lot of time to think about it.
Speaker 4: They were like, but Jude Laws here, he's gonna be
Speaker 4: giving bad daddy sort of pirate energy.
Speaker 2: That's fun.
Speaker 4: Okay, I really like the opening sequence here, the right
Speaker 4: number of alien characters all of Star Wars, this number
Speaker 4: of aliens in my shows, okay, correct. And then when
Speaker 4: we get to the kids, I really feel I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna call them out because they're kids, but like most
Speaker 4: of these kids are doing really, really well. One of
Speaker 4: them is a little bit behind, uh, struggling to keep
Speaker 4: up performance wise. I hope they get there by the end.
Speaker 2: But they're that You're like, okay, I'm pretty invested.
Speaker 4: The other thing, j Law gave a quote to star
Speaker 4: wars dot Com about how much he was excited to
Speaker 4: do this project because like everyone plays Star Wars as
Speaker 4: a kid pretty much if you were born mid seventies
Speaker 4: on for short Jedi or whatever, and so seeing it
Speaker 4: you know, not through a sort of broad lends for everybody,
Speaker 4: but very specifically for children that interested him, like as
Speaker 4: an actor and sort of like leading that group.
Speaker 2: And then two like.
Speaker 4: I you forget what it's like to be a kid.
Speaker 4: I'm very divorced from my childhood at this point.
Speaker 2: But like the dad, that's a great yeah.
Speaker 4: Like I was like, man, the dad in this is
Speaker 4: so mean, Like they're not giving any kind of like perspective,
Speaker 4: the kind of like well, because usually any things that
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, the parent's busy, I can really read
Speaker 4: how stressed they are.
Speaker 2: And they're they're giving their best. This dad seems really devoided.
Speaker 4: But if you're a kid, you don't have the nuance
Speaker 4: to understand why dad won't spend time with you. I
Speaker 4: really feel like they nailed like this is a child's perspective.
Speaker 1: It's a great, great point. I spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time thinking and rewatching like scenes from ET the Last
Speaker 1: Starfighter in like different movies with kids perspectives, just to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, this is what it's like kids.
Speaker 1: From this perspective, kids are going to do adventurous, fun
Speaker 1: novel things that are exciting that engage their curiosity and
Speaker 1: if you were in the adult perspective, this is kids
Speaker 1: doing the dumbest shit yea ever imaginable, flipping random buttons
Speaker 1: on the stars, like and you have to take yourself
Speaker 1: out of that, and when you do that, it's wonderful.
Speaker 1: Like I spend a lot of time thinking about et
Speaker 1: and like all the absolutely idiotic shit that like Elliott
Speaker 1: and his crew do over the and Goonies where it's
Speaker 1: like everybody's dying, like coming very close to death, like
Speaker 1: every thirty seconds in that movie.
Speaker 3: I love how that all four kids have all four
Speaker 3: kids have like really well defined characteristics so far, Yes,
Speaker 3: And you can see your childhood in one or more
Speaker 3: likely a combination of the two of them. And you
Speaker 3: have this brainy like sort of emotionless character who's figuring
Speaker 3: things out and studying things and building things. You have
Speaker 3: this other character who's really bold and adventurous and like
Speaker 3: wants to take charge of a situation. You have the
Speaker 3: other kid who's just like filled with anxiety, like at
Speaker 3: all times filled with anxiety. And then you have the
Speaker 3: kid who's like super curious. And I also, like Joelle
Speaker 3: to your point about like them being kids and seeing
Speaker 3: the world through their eyes. I loved women and Neil
Speaker 3: play fighting with lightsabers the first time to really see
Speaker 3: each other and like, oh, my guts are spilling out.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, hold on, there's something in my eye. I
Speaker 3: think I have an eye latch there. Like, what a
Speaker 3: great little interaction for a Star Wars show.
Speaker 1: It was really really cool. And to your point, Joelle
Speaker 1: about the performances coming off of the show that was
Speaker 1: spotty the accolade and in which I felt like some
Speaker 1: of the weakest parts were the performances of the child
Speaker 1: of the younger actors, this is a show that does
Speaker 1: not have that particular problem that I feel like also,
Speaker 1: and also the characterizations of the writing are pitched to
Speaker 1: the particular bandwidth of childhood.
Speaker 3: So I mean it's working.
Speaker 1: Episode two, Wim gets the ship out of hyperspace. But
Speaker 1: now they're just like randomly in the fucking galaxy somewhere
Speaker 1: right you're the way from wherever funt of her planet.
Speaker 2: They're just literally lost in space. Children. At this point,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yes, where are we? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Is their food on this ship? What's happening? Neil is
Speaker 1: absolutely freaking out. He wants to go home. Meanwhile, like
Speaker 1: are we alone on the ship, because now we're hearing
Speaker 1: crazy fucking beast sounds and a hulking with a missing
Speaker 1: eye with a rat living in its head comes like
Speaker 1: lurching out of the darkness. The droid seems very confused
Speaker 1: about where it is, like when it is and who
Speaker 1: he is addressing, and he's like, where's my captain? What's
Speaker 1: going on. Fern, very quick thinking, is like, captain is
Speaker 1: dead and the droid is absolutely now even more confused.
Speaker 1: The droid's name is SM thirty three, and Fern, improvising says,
Speaker 1: guess what, I killed your captain. So, by the laws
Speaker 1: of space piracy and the transitional nature of authority in space,
Speaker 1: I am the captain now. And SM thirty three takes
Speaker 1: a minute to think about it, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: what do you want to do with these other three?
Speaker 1: Do we want to launch them in the airlock or
Speaker 1: are we good with them? And Fern is like, teach
Speaker 1: us how to fly the ship. So there's this big
Speaker 1: tutorial that includes mentioning a big self destruct button that
Speaker 1: whim of course wants press. Everybody's like, don't do that,
Speaker 1: it will blow up the ship.
Speaker 4: I love a flashing light too when I get it.
Speaker 4: What does this do is my favorite game? Dangerous to
Speaker 4: play when you're.
Speaker 2: Already lost in space, but I get it.
Speaker 4: I think Nick Frost does such a great job here,
Speaker 4: Like I think a droid is something that's really difficult
Speaker 4: to pull off.
Speaker 2: I love K Twoso, who was our.
Speaker 4: Second to last super chatty bot, and I think maybe
Speaker 4: the greatest robot since like R two and C three po.
Speaker 4: This is fun though, like getting to play their protector slash,
Speaker 4: you know, sort of antagonists, sort of co pilot hulky
Speaker 4: guy to the kids, like, oh gosh, it's really fun,
Speaker 4: and I think his comedy is gonna lend a lot
Speaker 4: to this show.
Speaker 1: Fern orders SM to fly them home, but SM is like, okay,
Speaker 1: where where is that?
Speaker 2: Where are we?
Speaker 1: Where's your planet? Galaxy is absolute too big. They can't
Speaker 1: even point out what star system they are from. And
Speaker 1: they mentioned finally what system they're from, and they say
Speaker 1: it's at At and he has never heard of it.
Speaker 1: They're fully, fully lost in space, but SM is like,
Speaker 1: I know of a spaceport that's kind of nearby. So
Speaker 1: Fern is like, okay, let's go to the spaceport back
Speaker 1: on at At In security droids are investigating this spot
Speaker 1: in the woods where the ship has emerged. WiM's dad
Speaker 1: comes running out. He's like trying to tell them about
Speaker 1: the starship and the kids back on the ship, Neil
Speaker 1: goes looking for Wim. Instead, he finds dead bodies.
Speaker 2: Like everywhere.
Speaker 1: There's been some sort of fight here, and Wim loves it.
Speaker 1: Whim was like, this is cool.
Speaker 3: Is it not the greatest thing that ever happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: He goes. He's like, and by the way, check it out.
Speaker 1: I found the captain's quarters. They go, they're poking around
Speaker 1: the captain's courts, super dusty. He finds the captain's hat.
Speaker 2: Wim is like, you have a sleepover in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's not go home right away, Like obviously
Speaker 1: we're gonna go home, but like right now, Neil is,
Speaker 1: who has a wonderful home life, cannot wait to get
Speaker 1: back to it.
Speaker 3: Also, Neil complains that it smells bad on the ship,
Speaker 3: which because.
Speaker 1: There's dead bodies everywhere and he's got the biggest notes.
Speaker 3: Yes, he does so, but he doesn't breathe. He doesn't
Speaker 3: speak through it, which is very important to know.
Speaker 1: But he's smelling things clearly, like on.
Speaker 3: A different at a higher level.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes.
Speaker 1: They arrive at the starport and immediately it's like this
Speaker 1: place is distributable, like just on site by looking at
Speaker 1: the ships. Bad neighborhood. The name of the spaceport is
Speaker 1: Ort Borgo. SM thirty three confirms this is a dangerous
Speaker 1: and bad place. I'm going to say on the ship
Speaker 1: to make repairs, which, by the way, what with what parts?
Speaker 1: Why don't you just go with the kids. We can
Speaker 1: start the repairs when you all get back. Anyway, bad idea,
Speaker 1: But kids are making decisions, so what are you gonna do?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: At the port, Wim immediately gets swindled for like some
Speaker 1: of his credits, like instantly by the cab driver gets swindled.
Speaker 1: He is like, okay, smart thing to do. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hide the rest of my credits in my shoe. Fern
Speaker 1: goes to ask directions to like where they should be headed.
Speaker 1: Curious looks abound. Everybody's like what are children doing here?
Speaker 1: They pass by like a canteena with uh there's an
Speaker 1: interesting looking female alien who is working the door. Wim
Speaker 1: is like, let's go inside. Fern is like, uh no,
Speaker 1: But when she's distracted everybody goes their separate ways. KB
Speaker 1: ends up like an a rare animal shop where Fern
Speaker 1: finds her and she's like, where are these idiot boys?
Speaker 1: No idea. The woman from the canteena runs up and
Speaker 1: she's like, hold on, are you children? And Fern is
Speaker 1: like yes, and she's like you should not be here,
Speaker 1: and she's like, well, I need directions. We're trying to
Speaker 1: get home to at Aton and the lady has never
Speaker 1: heard of it. And we're realizing now that there is
Speaker 1: something strange about the planet that these kids are from.
Speaker 1: More on that in a bit. To continue our discussion
Speaker 1: about the Jedi thing, I think it intersects with the
Speaker 1: mystery around this planet. Maybe the boys are at a
Speaker 1: street food cart. The food is just purely like stuff
Speaker 1: for space rats. It's disgusting, whim pays the shopkeeper. Shopkeeper
Speaker 1: immediately tries to swindle in because it's clear that this
Speaker 1: kid has like a load of like original Republic credits.
Speaker 1: The word immediately gets out there's two little kids on
Speaker 1: orc Borga and they are loaded with fucking coin. The
Speaker 1: kids are now running for it. Fern and KB learned
Speaker 1: that their planet is apparently a legendary treasure spot in
Speaker 1: pirate lore, like it's a forgotten treasure planet.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's pause here for a moment. I think that
Speaker 1: this must somehow intersect with the why they know so
Speaker 1: much about Jedis. I think information must be siloed here
Speaker 1: and different in a way than it is for the
Speaker 1: wider galaxy, leading me to believe that these the people
Speaker 1: who populate this planet are like, not necessarily refugees, but
Speaker 1: people directly from the Republic, like middle class republic people
Speaker 1: who had to find a new planet because their planet
Speaker 1: got blowed up or whatever happened. And they know a
Speaker 1: lot about Jedi and I know a lot about events
Speaker 1: during the war and maybe current events as well, and
Speaker 1: then they populated this planet. That is my guess.
Speaker 3: There's also we didn't talk at all about the barrier,
Speaker 3: which they reference multiple times. The kids are like, oh no,
Speaker 3: if we don't get out of the ship, it's going
Speaker 3: to hit the barrier.
Speaker 1: Right that there is some sort of barrier protecting the
Speaker 1: planet clearly from scans and maybe even from from visual location.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Wendell when he's talking to the droids is
Speaker 3: like that the kids flew out past the barrier. And
Speaker 3: the droids, like no one is allowed past the barrier.
Speaker 3: So having just you know, thought through fallout, is this
Speaker 3: maybe some kind of like nuclear shelter planet. Yes, no
Speaker 3: one knows about. Yeah, Like what is this?
Speaker 2: One hundred percent?
Speaker 4: Aaron I was thinking about, like what we know about
Speaker 4: planetary structures as they applied to like the culturry ard
Speaker 4: to the center of the galaxy, the more like inherently
Speaker 4: involved you were with the republic, right, and then the
Speaker 4: further out you were, the less technology, more secluded you.
Speaker 4: They seem to be somewhere in the middle, right, not
Speaker 4: connected to the larger world so much so that nobody
Speaker 4: knows they're a planet, but they seem to have all
Speaker 4: of the same technology, style of dress, like verbiage that
Speaker 4: everyone that we know in the galaxy has as well.
Speaker 2: Which I was curious because.
Speaker 4: There's really, to me, one of my big criticul of
Speaker 4: Star Wars as like a whole franchise, there's a homogeny
Speaker 4: to the look of a lot of things that a
Speaker 4: galaxy should not have. We're mounting all over the place,
Speaker 4: we should see a drastic difference in styles, and I'm
Speaker 4: curious how that loophole closes here.
Speaker 2: I love the idea that they were recently sequestered themselves
Speaker 2: from the very scary empire and perhaps don't fully know
Speaker 2: that what's happened in the galaxy.
Speaker 1: Do we think where is this planet? Is it in
Speaker 1: the unknown regions? Is in the inner galaxy? Do we
Speaker 1: know where it is?
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even know where to guess it's got It
Speaker 4: feels like it has to be unknown.
Speaker 3: When they ask SM thirty three too, SM thirty three
Speaker 3: has no memory of where its last location was, So
Speaker 3: we don't even have any idea where that that ship
Speaker 3: might have been before it crashed. Uh, so we have
Speaker 3: a full on mystery with it, which I think is great.
Speaker 1: This planet's not going to be star killar base, right, like.
Speaker 4: Oh god, I hope not. But again, there's systems of organization.
Speaker 4: The way they were pushing their kids into very technical jobs.
Speaker 4: It's giving empires, so it absolutely could be.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay, let's continue. So, Uh, there's a
Speaker 1: lot to There's truly a lot to think of. There's
Speaker 1: a lot to think about here. So they learned that
Speaker 1: the their planet is some kind of top secret pirate
Speaker 1: lore treasure spot. Fern has a gun. She pulls a
Speaker 1: blaster on these pirates to make them stop, but she
Speaker 1: immediately gets disarmed because she's a kid and these are hardened,
Speaker 1: fucking pirates. The outlaws are very interested in ad ad.
Speaker 1: They want to know if the kids are telling the
Speaker 1: truth at all. But if four things can go completely left.
Speaker 1: S thirty three shows up to defend the kidsmately maims
Speaker 1: and potentially kills several of the pirates, which, honestly, fine,
Speaker 1: that's good. But then SM gets I'm hoping stun blasts
Speaker 1: did and the rat in its head falls out and
Speaker 1: hopefully doesn't die because that would actually make me really sad.
Speaker 2: Brutus.
Speaker 1: The wolfman arrives and the youngsters all get thrown in
Speaker 1: the brig. No idea. What happens to s M three
Speaker 1: three in the brig? It's just like arguments they Neil
Speaker 1: takes the rat from SM's head and is like, hey,
Speaker 1: through the bars. If you go through the bars and
Speaker 1: there's the key is hanging like on a on a
Speaker 1: fucking nail, like an old West jail, can you go
Speaker 1: out and go get the key? And it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: The rat just fully runs away. Recriminations fly. The kids
Speaker 1: are discussing whether at Aton really is a treasure planet?
Speaker 1: Or what is what does this mean? What is the
Speaker 1: way people reacting this? Is this true? While they're arguing,
Speaker 1: they hear a voice from deeper in the dungeon. It's
Speaker 1: the Captain from episode one, and the Captain's like addresses
Speaker 1: them and is like, I can get us out of here.
Speaker 1: He then uses the Force apparently like is this a trick?
Speaker 1: Is this truly the Force? But it truly does it.
Speaker 1: I was like waiting for this to be a con,
Speaker 1: but it does appear to be the Force and gets
Speaker 1: the key from across the room, and women is like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, wow a real Jedi end of episode two,
Speaker 1: you know or the other one? Yeah, Well, is this
Speaker 1: like a let me ask you?
Speaker 2: Is this a con?
Speaker 1: Is he conning them?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Is this entire thing a setup? We've got this mysterious
Speaker 1: like homing. We've got this like mysterious ship that's on
Speaker 1: a planet that's hidden takes them to where the pirates are.
Speaker 1: I don't know the feeling. There's definitely a deeper mystery
Speaker 1: here to unravel. But what are we thinking about this
Speaker 1: show thus far?
Speaker 4: I'm in on this show. I really love that they're
Speaker 4: like reaching back out to kids. I think they've been
Speaker 4: struggling as a franchise to like get young kids into it.
Speaker 4: You know a lot of kids seems crazy to me,
Speaker 4: but they're like those movies from the seventies. They look
Speaker 4: old and I can't watch it. It hurts my eyes.
Speaker 4: I don't want to see it. Some of the you know,
Speaker 4: old young folks in their twenties who were very very
Speaker 4: young when the preaqules came out, are really dedicated to those.
Speaker 4: But after that, it's been hard to get kids connecting
Speaker 4: to the source material. So I hope that this reaches
Speaker 4: out to them and connects with them. It's really fun.
Speaker 4: I feel like when I was a kid, I would
Speaker 4: have really been vibing with the whole bike's elements of this
Speaker 4: level of freedom and access.
Speaker 2: All that really works Disney they love to be incestuous.
Speaker 4: They got mix Giacchino to do the score for this,
Speaker 4: and I actually have did a really good job.
Speaker 2: It's so whimsical. I gasped a little when the keys moved.
Speaker 4: It was clearly a practical effect instead of CGI, and
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, appeals magical, Like it's it's really happening.
Speaker 4: It weirdly brought up a level of nostalogia in me
Speaker 4: that I haven't had for Star Wars in a minute.
Speaker 2: It's good, guys, I have fun with it.
Speaker 1: I was feeling that as well. I think that to
Speaker 1: kind of elaborate on the the eighties, gen X nineties
Speaker 1: codedness of this show, it's clearly pitched not to appeal
Speaker 1: to kids, but also to appeal to their parents so
Speaker 1: they can all watch it together. I think that there's
Speaker 1: something very notable about the fact that, like we are
Speaker 1: in this highly advanced sci fi setting, but also kids
Speaker 1: have no way to contact their parents on the fly,
Speaker 1: cell phones not existing, Like kids are just on their own,
Speaker 1: and there's that wonderful kind of agency that that creates
Speaker 1: the sense of like getting into the imaginative space of
Speaker 1: the kids themselves, understanding this world through their eyes. I
Speaker 1: think it's like a breath of fresh air and really wonderful.
Speaker 1: And to your point about like connecting kids to it,
Speaker 1: I think that there is like the acolyte like the
Speaker 1: discussions around any of these Star Wars properties that have
Speaker 1: happened over the last couple of years, it feels like
Speaker 1: all of the discourse around them have been dominated and
Speaker 1: even warped by like old head Star Wars fans who
Speaker 1: hate everything and this is like specifically pitched away from them,
Speaker 1: and good great. I think that is awesome.
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of nice too. I after watching
Speaker 3: the first two episodes, no part of me thinks any
Speaker 3: of the four main characters are going to use the Force.
Speaker 3: I don't think any of these kids are going to
Speaker 3: become pot of One and I like that. I like
Speaker 3: that all four of these kids seem to be just
Speaker 3: regular people who will exist and be heroes within this world.
Speaker 3: And it feels like a lot of the newer stuff
Speaker 3: we're getting is very very like, Oh, they have to
Speaker 3: be a Jedi, they have to somehow be using the
Speaker 3: Force in order to make the story worth telling, and
Speaker 3: that's not the case clearly, and we're doing that with
Speaker 3: is Jude Law Jedi? Is he not?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Who knows? I think as someone who's seen Aladdin, I'm
Speaker 3: always suspicious of anyone who's been locked in a jail
Speaker 3: cell but it has the ability to break out but
Speaker 3: hasn't broken themselves out yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wonder That's what that feels to me the same.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that that also piqued my interests it's like,
Speaker 1: this is something going on here, you were just hanging
Speaker 1: out for a while here.
Speaker 3: I also, like Joelle, you mentioned in the beginning the
Speaker 3: opening of episode one with the perfect amount of alien characters,
Speaker 3: and I thought that that episode, the opening of that
Speaker 3: episodisode and SM thirty three's scene in episode two, the
Speaker 3: show's surprisingly action packed and violent. I mean like SM
Speaker 3: thirty three using his shields on his arms to absorb
Speaker 3: the blaster fire and then burn someone with the heat
Speaker 3: collected is great.
Speaker 4: So this is YI, It's right, and Jason pointed it
Speaker 4: out earlier. There's a very legitimate sense of fear for
Speaker 4: the children in that. Yeah, And I think there's a
Speaker 4: very legitimate like everything. It feels like they're actually in
Speaker 4: this world and it could be bad for them, and
Speaker 4: you're like, oh my god, and they're escaping just by
Speaker 4: the hair of their teeth and that's kind of fine.
Speaker 4: But also I think, yeah, I always felt when I
Speaker 4: was a kid watching shows four kids like I hated
Speaker 4: when I was being talked down to when they were
Speaker 4: like when the world was obviously too safe, but like
Speaker 4: I had some street no how I could get around.
Speaker 4: I knew what to do if I was lost, Like
Speaker 4: there's an element of respect for kids in this and
Speaker 4: like understanding what's going on and being sheltered from the truth.
Speaker 4: That's really interesting. I also think they've built up Mistrey
Speaker 4: You much better than some of our other Star Wars shows.
Speaker 4: I'm like, really, I'm like, what is going on with
Speaker 4: these parents? Because the two parents we spend the most
Speaker 4: time with are so anxious for their children to do well.
Speaker 4: It seems as if there's something out like whatever is
Speaker 4: controlling this planet, ruling this planet will do bad things
Speaker 4: to you if you are not performing and at the
Speaker 4: top of your class. The months is what there's not
Speaker 4: enough room for everybody at the top.
Speaker 2: What does that mean? What happens if you're not at
Speaker 2: the top? Where do you go?
Speaker 4: Is it just regular suburban angs or is it something
Speaker 4: more sinister? Like it's a really compelling show.
Speaker 1: I completely agree, and the mystery to kind of expand
Speaker 1: on that. I mean, it feels like Jude Law got
Speaker 1: thrown in the brig on purpose, right, doesn't it? Like
Speaker 1: from that opening scene thinking about it, like he clearly
Speaker 1: gave this pirate group information about a ship that he
Speaker 1: maybe knew was not true in order to get thrown
Speaker 1: in here? Could he have engineered this whole thing?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Is he trying to get my sense? Is like he's
Speaker 1: from at Aton somehow.
Speaker 4: Mmm okay, okay, I like that He's It's interesting because
Speaker 4: they set him up as sort of the the cocky pilot,
Speaker 4: which was a trope we get a lot throughout Star Wars. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but also if he is one with the fourth how
Speaker 4: smart and how much does he know? Is also a
Speaker 4: thing we get a lot with these guys. Is he
Speaker 4: the Yoda affect? Is he kooky and crazy? Or is
Speaker 4: he whise beyond anybody's comprehension. I think both of those
Speaker 4: elements are sort of at play with this character, which
Speaker 4: again just sort of it makes you want to tune
Speaker 4: in again.
Speaker 2: I have to know where the story's going.
Speaker 4: I don't think we've had anything like, certainly not in
Speaker 4: live action on Star Wars. But I'm struggling even to
Speaker 4: think of like a novel or comic book that comes
Speaker 4: close to this sort of style of storytelling. It's I
Speaker 4: was I was really prepared to be like, oh, Star
Speaker 4: Wars kids show, but man, they really did get me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they they did get They did get me
Speaker 1: as well. I'm I'm super excited to see where this goes.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I've like this, I've am very excited
Speaker 1: by this show. And the sense of nostalgia is intense.
Speaker 1: It makes you realize, like, how few stories like this
Speaker 1: there really are right now? I mean, I think this
Speaker 1: is part of the reason that Stranger Things when it
Speaker 1: first came out, hits so hard. Yeah, this is pitched
Speaker 1: in that exact space, and it's just feels great. It
Speaker 1: feels you know.
Speaker 4: What, it's giving like Craig of the Creek sort of
Speaker 4: adventure time vibes in that here's a very open world
Speaker 4: with not a lot of adult interaction, where you're allowed
Speaker 4: to sort of dream or be as big as you
Speaker 4: want to be. And that's like that little girl is
Speaker 4: a captain, like immediately, like.
Speaker 2: All of her energy.
Speaker 4: You pointed out earlier, Jason, that KB and what's the
Speaker 4: other girl's name? Uh yeah, okay, I have a theory. Okay,
Speaker 4: so yes, KP's clearly the intelligent one. But if I
Speaker 4: was going to classify her, i'd give her like a
Speaker 4: a Jinkies Velma sort of vibe, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like she's.
Speaker 1: Like, yes, yeah, she's not the she's not the charismatic
Speaker 1: one for sure.
Speaker 2: Yes she's not Fred, and that's okay.
Speaker 4: I think Fern is more of a Fred Daphne hybrid,
Speaker 4: and I really appreciate the.
Speaker 2: Vibes of their friendship.
Speaker 4: They're very you know, girls mature faster than boys, and
Speaker 4: so when you're at the same age, in the same class,
Speaker 4: especially around the sage, which I would guess is between
Speaker 4: like nine and eleven, you know, where are these boys
Speaker 4: and why are they being Let's go like poor poor
Speaker 4: women's never been outside of his house. He has no
Speaker 4: idea how to interact with his zero street credit, like
Speaker 4: no knowledge of how to maneuver through these streets.
Speaker 2: And I really appreciate all the other kids being like
Speaker 2: this one. We have to keep an eye on.
Speaker 4: He's giving youngest child in the class, and I really
Speaker 4: appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Fern is like Louise Joelle like for your Bob's Burg
Speaker 3: or is fandom like Fern reminds me of Louise and
Speaker 3: that she she'll she'll manipulate the situation and she knows
Speaker 3: how to get everyone to do her things for her,
Speaker 3: which is not a bad like, not in a negative way.
Speaker 3: But she's number well, that's true. Yeah, so she is
Speaker 3: also very intelligent and high achieving, even though she's getting
Speaker 3: pulled over by the school droids all the time for
Speaker 3: misbehaving and going to the principal's office. I guess.
Speaker 1: Okay, quick fire rapid predictions. What do we think anything
Speaker 1: anything that's that's peaking your interests. Let's start with you Erin.
Speaker 1: What do you what are some quick predictions?
Speaker 3: I want to know what what at Adam is? My
Speaker 3: biggest thing is like, is this some kind of is
Speaker 3: it a place lost in time? Or are they intentionally
Speaker 3: being kept away from everything going on in the outside.
Speaker 3: So that's my biggest thing. Why are they unaware of
Speaker 3: I mean the kids that when when they fly up
Speaker 3: into space for the first time, Like, are those planets
Speaker 3: know they're stars? Like the kids don't even know about space,
Speaker 3: it seems like. So that's my biggest thing is why
Speaker 3: are they so clueless around this?
Speaker 1: Joelle?
Speaker 4: I'm really interested to see where this intersects with other
Speaker 4: Star Wars if it will, Like are we getting especially
Speaker 4: knowing that Luke is on a path of building the
Speaker 4: Jedi Academy and knowing that this kid wants to be
Speaker 4: a Jedi, And clearly we're dealing with some kind of
Speaker 4: force wielding like I want to see what the intersection
Speaker 4: of that is, but also need are we on star
Speaker 4: Killer Base?
Speaker 2: What is it a lost treasure planet? Are we hopping dimensions?
Speaker 4: Like they're so because of how open Star Wars has
Speaker 4: become in the last like seven years, there's so many
Speaker 4: directions this could go. I love how small they've started
Speaker 4: and how little we know. It really like gives your space,
Speaker 4: your head, a lot of space to imagine. I look
Speaker 4: forward to the forums. Please send us your fan theories
Speaker 4: and stuff I think.
Speaker 1: Please please play the shoulder.
Speaker 2: We can dive into it and under things a lot.
Speaker 2: It's going to be a blast.
Speaker 4: What about you, Jason, what are you looking forward to?
Speaker 1: My big crazy one is that they're on Starcular Base.
Speaker 1: Although I love that theory, I I I guess that's
Speaker 1: not true, but it's I but it would be crazy.
Speaker 1: And then I guess I would predict that Captain Silvo
Speaker 1: Jude Law does cannot use the force. I think it
Speaker 1: the the practicalness of the key draw seemed so like
Speaker 1: uniquely practical that I feel that he is playing some
Speaker 1: sort of con on them, specifically trying to like mystify them.
Speaker 1: He can't use the force and this is all some
Speaker 1: kind of game, part of whatever con scheme that he
Speaker 1: is playing. That's my guess.
Speaker 3: I also want to know will is Neil ever going
Speaker 3: to get a chance speak to runa for the first time.
Speaker 2: Dangie, this ship he's gonna get right back. That's gonna
Speaker 2: be like, you can't believe so much, and now I'm
Speaker 2: ready to talk.
Speaker 1: I'm built to all of the confidence I need to pirates. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you absolutely cannot see that and not have a controversition.
Speaker 1: We love Meal too much.
Speaker 4: Also, if I was a betting person, I'd gamble that
Speaker 4: we see Honda eventually. We're right, We're yeah, we're in
Speaker 4: the pocket area for Honda to still be around.
Speaker 2: Please show up. He's my favorite pirate who has the kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this wouldn't be a cad Bane. This would be
Speaker 3: Hondo Like cad Bane's too dark. Honda would be perfect
Speaker 3: for this.
Speaker 1: I think my final prediction is that all these kids
Speaker 1: are gonna be fine. Nothing bad is going to happen
Speaker 1: to them, although they are going to face tremendous danger.
Speaker 1: But we're all going to fall in love with sm
Speaker 1: thirty three and he's gonna die.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I have to say goodbye to so many already.
Speaker 4: I love Kate too, I love the trades.
Speaker 1: Coming up next on episodes of Extra Vision, We're diving
Speaker 1: back into Dune Prophecy episode one on three, and on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: our Books and Comics twenty twenty four round up. That's
Speaker 1: over this episode. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Erin, Thank you Joel, thank you, Jason bye x.
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