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This was an incredible episode. 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: I think you guys are gonna love it. And hey, 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: check out his website Frank Onstage dot com. I know 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna be at the Omaha Funnybones soon. He's coming 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: through the Midwest. Check out all his dates. Frank is 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: truly the best of the best, and this was a really, 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: really great episode. I hope you guys like it. 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: Here, we gotta go there, we gotta go back some time. 17 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: It is Packer Week, everybody, and it is essentially a 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: do or die week for both teams. Joining us on 19 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: the Tailgate to discuss all things Packers and all things 20 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: end of the season. The great Frank kelliendo, Hey, buddy, 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: how are you doing quite well? 22 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: It is? Listen? Is Packer Viking Week huge for you guys? 23 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: I mean, but growing up for me, it was there 24 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: was a big rivalry or a rivalry, but it was 25 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: Bears Packers. And I was born in Chicago but grew 26 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: up in Milwaukee. So we used to have our relatives 27 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: from Chicago would send us all the Bear stuff. So 28 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: we're talking eighty five bears, like six foot by four 29 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: foot posters, and we would hang them up because you know, 30 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: we got all the There was just better stuff at 31 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: that point from Chicago, right am. I uh, you know, 32 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: it's even amazing to even think about this now, and 33 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: people don't probably talk about this, but the way we 34 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: got the six foot by four foot posters. My uncle 35 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: used to trade in like his cigarette miles to get 36 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: like like you couldn't even imagine a professional sports league 37 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: being associated with cigarettes or anything like it was like 38 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: camel Bucks or something like that. 39 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, how many Marlborough miles for 40 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: that Jim McMahon poster. 41 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but these were the giant like and they were. 42 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: So we had the giant Bears posters and then the 43 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: four or five guys who didn't have mustaches on them, 44 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: we you know, drew them on there. But it was 45 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: interesting because that, you know, Packer fans, which I became 46 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: more of just after I was younger, because that eighty 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: five were just didn't go by my you know, Italian relatives, 48 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: and like Frank, you gotta support that. You gotta support 49 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: the Bears, you know, and then everybody's going the bear 50 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: shubbar and all that kind of stuff. So and at 51 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: the time it was like the Alindi and Fonte Packers 52 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 2: and you know, growing up and that it was Mkowski 53 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: and you know that crew before those different quarterbacks, before 54 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: we got too far of coming in. 55 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody before they hired Holm Grin and he hired 56 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: the greatest coaching staff in the history of professional football 57 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: right then. 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: The coaching tree that will live forever. 59 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: This is a funny thing that Packer fans do, Frank, 60 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: and you I think you don't even intend it. Some 61 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: of them know, like when because Packers Week is everything 62 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: to Vikings fan, you hit it on the head and 63 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: there's nothing more hurtful than somebody you don't like not 64 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: thinking about you. So when a Packers fan is like, 65 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: is it a big deal to you? Because we think 66 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: about bears like that is a that is a fun 67 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: little jab to the side hard. 68 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I it was half on purpose and half 69 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: like real. It was like it was honest, but there 70 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: was I thought that might be the case. So that's 71 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: why I said it. 72 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: It worked. 73 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: It was that type of thing because I just I 74 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: don't I know, when it's that week. It seems like, 75 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: especially growing up, it was always bears, Bears, bears, bears, bears. 76 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: That's how anybody everybody wanted to beat. But I don't know. 77 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: Maybe it's because I mean, Minneapol is a bigger city 78 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 2: than Milwaukee, like oh, you know, especially Green Bay. But 79 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: Chicago is such a you know, I even do jokes 80 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: about Milwaukee. I grew up in a suburb of Chicago Milwaukee, 81 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: and people from Milwaukee hate that joke, but people in 82 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: Chicago cheer it like we know, we know, you know. 83 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: So I never get into that. I never understood geographical 84 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: rivalries so much. I guess I do get it with 85 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: I get it with the teams somewhat, but I'm also 86 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: it hurts when the Packers lose. I have that little 87 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: bit of emptiness inside of me, but it's I'm not 88 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: a like a crazed Packer fan. That's but I care. 89 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I do care, and then yet now that 90 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: I live in Arizona, second team is kind of the Cardinals, 91 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: but it's hard to love them because they just feel 92 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: like they're always falling to pieces. 93 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like the Southeast Lions. You know, they'll have 94 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: a moment here and there. That's not that joke does 95 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: not work this year because of what's going on with 96 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: the team. But yeah, I can absolutely understand that. I 97 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: think the long history of the Bears Packers. You know, 98 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: I have Packer friends who they they take such pride 99 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: in the long, like horrible history. But since about ninety eight, 100 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: since Randy Moss came in and the Vikings Packers were 101 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: a little more it's us or you guys. It's us 102 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: or you guys. Yeah, that's I think. But I think 103 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: if you're talking about the history of football, you know 104 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: those two franchises, you know, they have their stamp on 105 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: the early days in a way that almost nobody else does. 106 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: The Moss Vikings those years. Honestly, those were big. That 107 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: was big rivalry time. That was some of the most 108 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: I'd felt it, and I think it was because they 109 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: were such a star star player in Randy Moss, there's 110 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: you know, it's interesting the NFL markets more to the 111 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: team because it's the ultimate team game, right. I mean, 112 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: the NBA is all about single players. This player, that player, 113 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: and it's only five people on the court on each 114 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: side at once, and in the NFL, you've got everybody's 115 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: got their job. It is really that Belichick do your 116 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: job kind of mentality that if one little cog in 117 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: the machine falls apart or doesn't do his job, everything's gone. 118 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: So in the NBA you can have guys mess up, 119 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, especially if you have a superstar. They're 120 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: going to call a foul. Anyways. 121 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: You know, I know a lot of people know you 122 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: and know your career, but I don't know that everybody 123 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: knows that you started the way almost all Midwestern comedians 124 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: started in that you had to do and I know 125 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: this through some of our mutual friends. You had to 126 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: go on the road, you had to do one nighters, 127 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: you had to do the rooms in the Midwest. What 128 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: was it like because I've mentioned football on stage in 129 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: the Midwest doing small rooms as I was coming up, 130 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: and people's reaction you want to talk about tribalism. What 131 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: was it like doing Madden and doing some of these 132 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: impressions and talking sports coming up in a place where 133 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: people's sense of humor is Uh, it doesn't exist when 134 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: it comes to their favorite team. 135 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I don't know, Yeah, they definitely. People get 136 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: a little bit put up their guard on stuff they 137 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. The Mad stuff I would do is 138 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: always neutral though, you know, it was always neutral and 139 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: with the EP like it was the stuff about Brett 140 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: farre you know, Brett Favre was the Brett Favre of 141 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: Brett Farmers. Without Brett Farves, you wouldn't have Brooks. That's 142 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: what that's all about. So they if you love Brett 143 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: Farv in Green Bay, people love that you're just talking about, right, 144 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: you know. If you're somewhere else, you're like, yeah, that's 145 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: all Madden talks about is Brett farb I'm sick of it. 146 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: So it works both ways as opposed to picking a 147 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: side of something. I mean, and usually you can get 148 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: a joke in here or there, you know, making fun 149 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: of somebody's team, but you better come back, you know, 150 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: quickly before somebody else says something. So I think the 151 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: mad stuff, you know, it was always pretty neutral going 152 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: through and doing all those one nighters. To me, it 153 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: was more of a problem. But people didn't know the 154 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 2: sports stuff that one, because when people first come out 155 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: to see you in him, you know, at comedy clubs, 156 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: they're not necessarily you're an attraction, you're not necessarily selling 157 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: the tickets, so they might just be somebody who's showing 158 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: up that night for a show. And if they're not 159 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: sports fans, they wouldn't even get that Madden part. So 160 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: that would be more the issue for me than anything 161 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: in those days. 162 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: One thing, I appreciate you about you greatly, and we 163 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,599 Speaker 1: have a mutual friend Mike McCrae. Yeah, and Mike McCrae, 164 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: who I've spent a lot of time with in my life. 165 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: He is he does what you do, which is you 166 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: guys are fantastic impressionists, but you are fantastic comedians, and 167 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: so the writing takes over and the impression is almost 168 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to belittle it by saying that it's secondary, 169 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: but the impression lives within the larger concept of well 170 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: written comedy, and I think, you know, you're kind of 171 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: the height of that with Madden existing early and then 172 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: Madden's referencing a joke that you did, you know, kind 173 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: of his character flowing throughout your set. Was there a 174 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: moment where that happened? Was that intentional? Did it happen 175 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: on stage? Was there just one day where you're like, 176 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: holy shit, look like how did that come to be? 177 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: It actually came from jump cap Bo was watching me, 178 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: do you know Johnny Cappinara, Yeah, like I did it 179 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: once or something in the show. He's like, you're doing 180 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: the greatest color analyst of all time. Explain the jokes, 181 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: Explain every joke. I go, but yeah, but then if 182 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: you have to explain the joke, isn't the joke not 183 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 2: that good? Not if it's in your acting to explain it. 184 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: I joken good night people. I touched on it a 185 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: little bit, and then he was like, yeah, you should 186 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: just use that, and it really I wasn't even I 187 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: kind of did it as a callback, a single callback, 188 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: and he's like, no, don't just use it as a 189 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: little callback. Explain joke after joke after joke with Madden, 190 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: and as Madden got out of you know, being on TV, 191 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: I ended up I transitioning that same thing to Morgan Freeman. 192 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 2: I would just explain the jokes, narrate them as Morgan 193 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: Freeman if somebody didn't get them. So but that But 194 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: that's really the metamorphosis of Madden, like becoming so much 195 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: of my act there was because John Cappanio said to me, 196 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: just do it. Just got on now and do it. 197 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: It's uh, it really is. It really is so smartly written, 198 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: you know the other thing. And I don't need to 199 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: turn this into a Flowers parade, but anybody, any of 200 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: us who've ever worked in the realm of comedy and 201 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: sports understand how difficult it is to exist there for 202 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: any long period of time. And the Fox pregame show 203 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: getting two and a half minutes to have to be funny, 204 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: be relevant, not make the league angry, not make the 205 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: sponsors angry, not make the station angry, and still have 206 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: people go that was funny enough to watch. That is 207 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: I believe that is the toughest spot in anything sports 208 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: humor related to be in that position. 209 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: And also you have to remember it's on tape. Yeah, 210 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: so you can't it's taped and done, so the best 211 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: things on the Fox pregame show to me, and the 212 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: same with the NBA and TNT. To be honest with you, 213 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: When things go wrong and they start ripping into each other, 214 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: I don't care how good the planned segment is. When 215 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: Terry Bradshaw completely forgets what he's talking about, or the 216 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: camera zooms into how we long to be smart or 217 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: whatever it might be, they're going to start ripping on 218 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: each other. And that's the fun part. That's the fun. 219 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: It's the camaraderie and chemistry. And when you come in 220 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: and you're a taped piece, you only get beginning and 221 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: end with them, so there's no interaction in between, and 222 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: there's no changing to feel how it's going. Some of 223 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: the best times I ever had were when I was 224 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: in studio with them, just goofing around with them, and 225 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: then I could go from thing to thing and do 226 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: some voices and do some jokes and make fun of them, 227 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: and they could make fun of me back, and it 228 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: was a back and forth. Remember when you're doing that 229 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 2: two to two and a half minutes you make you 230 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: made your decisions and you went with them, so there's 231 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: no there's no navigating. There's no new navigation there, which 232 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: is what you know, stand up comedy and immediate, the 233 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: immediacy of the reaction from the crowd you get. So 234 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 2: you don't you don't have any of that. That's a 235 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: tough thing about being on tape, and people don't even know, like, 236 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: you know, the average person doesn't realize you're on tape, 237 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: even though it looks completely different, looks more filmed, it 238 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: looks it's edited. 239 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: The let's throw it to Frank live. Yeah. 240 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, people just think that it's like na, that's there's 241 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: nothing live about that. So so yeah, I think I 242 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: do think it. And it's the sports mentality doing comedy 243 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: within a sports mentality, which is what are you doing 244 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: for me this week? Comedy in general and quote unquote 245 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: Hollywood is like they like this, think there is some 246 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: what have you done for me? You know lately, but 247 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: it's nowhere near the sports feeling of you the last 248 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: games over time for the next game, like it's we're 249 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: on the Cincinnati there's That's exactly what happens in sports 250 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: and the building that mentality is there throughout any sports, uh, 251 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: you know, sports entertainment especially that maybe not so much 252 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 2: of the new Younger podcast kind of stuff. But in 253 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: terms of the in terms of the old school TV stuff, yeah, 254 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 2: I mean it's those build and those buildings are based 255 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: on you know, John Madden and him ruling the roost 256 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: and whoever was there at the time, those old school 257 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: and they weren't old school at the time that you know, Fox, 258 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: it was super innovative. If you look most of the 259 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: things you see on sports television, if you go back 260 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: and see how much they were ripped, Fox would start popped. 261 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: The game just used to be the game on TV. 262 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: Nothing was on the screen, and now it's stats and 263 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: uh information, all sorts of stuff that was all Fox, 264 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: you know, and people sports writers in columns in like 265 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: USA Today and whatever they would rip Fox for chain. 266 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: We couldn't live without it. Now, now you sit there 267 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: with an iPad next to you or your phone looking 268 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: up things while you're watching the game. And I remember 269 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: a producer saying to me, I don't see people ever 270 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: doing that. I'm like, mean, neither, no way would you 271 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: sit there with your phone looking up stats while the 272 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: game's going on. And now I couldn't imagine not being 273 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: able to look stuff up. 274 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: No one hates change more than people who've loved sports 275 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: for a really long time. It's like in golf, when 276 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: they first went I think Fox, maybe they had a 277 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: major or something, but they were like, we're gonna put 278 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: the tracker on the ball. We're gonna let you see 279 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: the tail off the ball, just like you do in 280 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: a video game. And I remember golf people were like, 281 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: that's the dumbest thing, and now you're right. Everything they do, 282 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: everything they push forward is you know, it eventually sticks. 283 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: Even some of the cameras. 284 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: You go and watch a game live or you know, 285 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: a golf bets, you watch that live, and you're looking 286 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: for the stuff that's on the TV. You're looking for replays, 287 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: you're looking for things that you're going it's not the same. 288 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: That television product in the NFL is so good, Like 289 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: it's just it's it's a great product that you know, 290 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: I've gone to. I've been a bunch of Super Bowls, 291 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: quite a few, worked with some and it's even not 292 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: the same. It's you know, the live game if you're 293 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: it's really great when you're a die hard fan of 294 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: a team, I think that's great, But just watching other 295 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: games on TV, I would probably rather watch on TV personally. 296 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: There's no Maybe the most important evolution of television sports, 297 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is the first down line. I Like, 298 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: I'll be at a game and I'll be like, where's 299 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: the line? Where's the it is? How that impacts how 300 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: you view every single play is insane. It is It 301 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: is really really crazy. 302 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: Yep, totally absolutely. 303 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: The you mentioned it is that that clash with you 304 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: were talking about how sports is a what have you 305 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: done for me lately? Type of situation. It is interesting 306 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: because that is the mentality. It's like, well you won 307 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: last week. 308 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 2: Look San Francisco VERSUS Baltimore. Yeah, if you look at that, 309 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: it's it's Brock Parties out of the running now and 310 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is at the top. And you're like, yeah, 311 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: it was a prime time type of game and important, 312 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: a super important game. But if that game had happened 313 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 2: six weeks ago, nobody cares and you're on and you 314 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: have plenty of games to recoup on that, or if 315 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 2: you're Brock Party and if you're Lamar Jackson you have 316 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: time to build her up or down either way on 317 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: what you did last night. I mean, so such a 318 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: what happened this last game? Like that's so much more 319 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: important in terms of the you know, MVP voting or whatever, 320 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: you know whatever. I'm sure most of these players would 321 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: actually rather win the Super Bowl than care about MVP, 322 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: unless sure receiver and then you'd rather get MVP. 323 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: Yeah that'd be I mean a, I think that's just 324 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: more your personality and be you want to be the 325 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: first wide receiver who's like, hey, I did it, I'm 326 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: the most valuable player. 327 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 328 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: It's uh, it is really and when you compare it 329 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: to what you do, what we do, you know in 330 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: the art and stand up world, where your job is 331 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: just like I'm building this thing. I'm building this beautiful thing, 332 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's not going to be great, but I'm 333 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: trying to build. So going in each week like you did, 334 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: you know to Fox, it's kind of an interesting clash 335 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: of art and sports where they're like, hey, you know 336 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: how you did the funniest thing we've ever seen last week? Yeah, 337 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: what's better this week? You're like, well, that's not how 338 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: jokes work at all. That was mine. 339 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: Right, There's there's peaks and valleys and you and the 340 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: sports will they they'll edit. They do this in TV 341 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: sometimes too, in like entertainment. They cut out all the 342 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: the air to just be punchline, punchline, punchline, punch. I 343 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: was important to have the setups. If you only have 344 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: punch on punch, you just look like you're trying too hard. 345 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 2: But my first year at Fox, I thought I was 346 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: going to be fired every week because I followed up 347 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel, and I thought every week it was just 348 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: a brutal The guys didn't know how to react because 349 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: I wasn't ripping on them, and we were doing an impression. 350 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: And we had this thing where I was working at 351 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: a bar. It was a bartender first, and then it 352 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: would be then I'd be throwing to myself doing it. 353 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 2: But it was very weird. But they wanted to and 354 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: they wanted to try and emulate what they did with 355 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: Kimmel on the couch. I was like, well, why don't 356 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 2: we just do a couch Like, well, that's already been done. 357 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I mean every talk show host sits 358 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: at a desk after doing a monologue, too, what's the difference? 359 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: And the whole thing is kind of speaking from the 360 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: band perspective, So it was too manufactured at the beginning 361 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 2: and then we started just getting into the sketch of 362 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: what it was the heart of a sketch, and it 363 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: just was easy, you know, it was it was easy 364 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: to just make that work more easier. I mean, whether 365 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: it was going to be good or bad. I mean 366 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: I looked at like one if I could get one 367 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: out of or to be really good, one out of 368 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: three to be pretty good, and the other two to 369 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 2: not be awful. I was fine with that because it's 370 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: hard doing it every weekend when when I'd come in, 371 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: especially after a few years, once the Internet and once 372 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 2: social media got going and podcasts. When Kimmel first did it, 373 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: it's hard because nobody else was doing anything like that. 374 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 2: Nobody was doing a comedy segment in sports. But as 375 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 2: soon as Twitter and all these other social media platforms came, 376 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 2: all the jokes had been done by the time the gin, 377 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: we'd shoot on Thursday, and then you could do new 378 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: jokes on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, even to the day out. 379 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: I had to shoot on Thursday, that was on tape 380 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: by Thursday to be air on Saturday. Things could change. Yeah, 381 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: Sometimes something weird would happen and they'd have to cut 382 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: something out because they're like, oh no, there was a 383 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: controversy here. I'm like, okay, whatever, but you just have 384 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: to deal with it, enroll with it. 385 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: When we when I was at ESPN and we were 386 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: doing Sports Center for Snapchat, it was it was like 387 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: the super version of that where we would get all 388 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: the games would finish by ten eleven o'clock at the latest, 389 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: we tape at about two in the morning, and by 390 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: the next morning when we came out. Seriously, thirty forty 391 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: percent if it was a good day, if somebody didn't 392 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: comment like hey, we saw that joke on Twitter before 393 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: you did it, like yeah, I don't know what. It's 394 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: just crazy how the Internet has changed sports in comedy and. 395 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: Well that was the same thing like Sports Sports Center. 396 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: You super look forward to Sports Center right as kids, 397 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: and now all the highlights are available immediately across tons 398 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: of platforms, so you can get that. You might not 399 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 2: get the package. So and the odd thing about ESPN 400 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: was that they got away from personalities too doing the 401 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: Sports Center stuff. And that's that's the only thing that 402 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: That's why Scott Van Pelt works too, because it's him, 403 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: it's his thing, so you feel, you feel him. It's 404 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: less news show and more. I don't even want to 405 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 2: say news magazine. It's entertainment and you have his personality throughout. Yeah, 406 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: and that's that's the thing that propels something like that 407 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 2: at this point when everything's available, but you know, the team, 408 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: the Bikings put out stuff as soon as it happens. 409 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: I mean, that just wasn't twenty years ago. That wasn't available, 410 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 2: that didn't exist. So you have to adapt and change 411 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: to that. And that's really hard, especially with jokes because 412 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 2: people say, like you said, people like I saw that joke. 413 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: Did you get that joke from Twitter? No? I I 414 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: tried to stay off of Twitter so I wouldn't see 415 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: any jokes. But there's no way to get to win, 416 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: I mean, because there's just too many people look at 417 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: too many different things. 418 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's impossible. It's essentially you versus the world 419 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: is what it is. And you know, it's the putting 420 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: something together long form. There's always going to be somebody 421 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: who can stab out into the open air and hit something, 422 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: but you know your job is to put a few 423 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: minutes of that in a row. 424 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's the same. It's the same with stand 425 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: up comedy, right that when you are funny somebody's limit 426 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: living room or out at you know, at the at 427 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: the game or whatever. You do a joke here and there, 428 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: people are laughing because they're like, oh, this is interesting. Well, 429 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: but it's different when they come to tune into you 430 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: just for that, like, okay, make me laugh now. All 431 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: of a sudden you're on the menu to make people laugh, 432 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: and that's a that's a different thing. There's no surprise there. 433 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: It's like that's your job, and people have a different 434 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: mentality when it's your job. 435 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: Last thing before we get you out of here, Frank, 436 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: I want to know, uh, and I'm sure our listeners do. 437 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you've had such a cool career. What do 438 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: you can you barrel down to a singular moment? I 439 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: mean growing up a football fan and then getting like 440 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: you said, you've been to a bunch of Super Bowls, 441 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: You've worked with these personalities, you've gotten to be around 442 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: these teams. Is there a moment that you look back 443 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: on or a couple of moments that you're like, that 444 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: was it? That's that's something that I'm that is fun 445 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: to hold on to forever as a sports fan. 446 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: I can remember one thing that always comes to mind 447 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: is I was in a green room at Fox. Uh 448 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: just to in a dressing room Terry talking to Terry 449 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: Bradshaw Frank o'harris walks in, who's passed away since then, 450 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 2: but Uh and Terry and Franco hadn't seen each other 451 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: in twenty thirty years whatever it was, and just and 452 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: nobody and they were having like this mini reader just 453 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: chatting that just came across each other, and nobody was 454 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 2: asking me to leave the room. That was one of 455 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: those like Oh, you just get to be a part 456 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 2: of this stuff. 457 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: That's great. 458 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: So that's That's one of those those huge, huge moments 459 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: that I realized, oh my gosh, this is crazy. Or 460 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: when I was another thing was just simple when I 461 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: could Jimmy Johnson's hair was different one day, like just 462 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: totally different, and I could just call the control room 463 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: and a producer and go, what's going on with Jimmy's hair? 464 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: And he was doing something for Survivor or something, and 465 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: he was on Survivor, So I was like, Wow, that's cool. 466 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: I could just call Fox and just say what ask 467 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: what's going on in the situation. Another little thing would 468 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 2: be just backstage and Terry Bradshaw, you know, grabbing, you know. 469 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: So my son was playing with a broom outside of 470 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: the studio and uh, Terry Broad, We're gonna call him sweeper, 471 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: a sweeper, and then Terry started showing him here's I 472 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 2: sweep got. And then how he came out later and 473 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 2: he's holding Joey my son. He's like, this is we 474 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: call this the discus. I was just holding him like 475 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 2: he's holding a discus. So it was those moments here 476 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 2: around these Hall of Fame, giant personalities great that were 477 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: really great. That are just moments for me that I 478 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: always remember. 479 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really the one with your kid. 480 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: That's that's always stuff with my kids. I mean, that's 481 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 2: everything ties back to my kids for me. As far 482 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: as I don't care about things for me, I don't know. 483 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: I have all these things, like you know, I've been 484 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: on the Tonight Show with Tom Cruise and just I 485 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: was in the dressing room and all of a sudden, 486 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: he just appeared behind me. That's where the aliens set 487 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 2: him down that day, and I was just like, man, 488 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 2: this is crazy. But the it's but the things, the 489 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: moments where I had my daughter got to meet a 490 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: bunch of different events and stuff like that when she 491 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 2: was into marvel at those are the cool things for me. 492 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: When the kids get to experience this stuff, that's even 493 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: better than to me than anything I get to do. 494 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just recently this year had my first child, 495 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: and you know, you hear you always hear your friends 496 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: and people you know, they talk about and they react 497 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: to like, oh, when you're a parent, and it's kind 498 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: of corny. But I think what they're referring to is 499 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: like literally this biological thing in your brain that I've 500 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: now felt that anything that hits my ears about kids 501 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: just hits me in this different emotional you you when 502 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: you was like there's a discus. When you said that, 503 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, isn't that the nicest thing 504 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: I've ever heard in my life? You go cry in 505 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: my car for a little while thinking about it, is right. 506 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: I teer. I tear up at the dumbest stuff now, 507 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: just when it's involved my kids, it's like all of 508 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: a sudden, So it's just crazy little moments like that. 509 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: Well, you're a king, Frank. We appreciated a ton. Thank 510 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: you so much. 511 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. 512 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: Thanks again to Frank Caliendo for joining the show, and 513 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: thank you to our sponsor Continental Diamond. 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