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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In occasion didn't notice, I'm not broke.

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Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry

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Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald, Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: everybody it's really time you stop writing and reading other

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Speaker 1: because that's their story. Now you can be motivated by

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Speaker 1: if you reach your goals, to your planning, your committed effort.

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Speaker 1: But I always tell people about this, it's time to

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Speaker 1: leave with your gifts. Really, it really is. Don't let

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Speaker 1: your friends, family, anybody stop you from planning and living

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Speaker 1: your goals. Because my show on Money Making Conversation is

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Speaker 1: about bringing people on the shows who are celebrity CEO

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Speaker 1: is entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. My next guest is

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Speaker 1: Terrence Terrell. Let me just let y'all know a little

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Speaker 1: bit about him because I've been following him. He's Mota, y'all,

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Speaker 1: half man, half motorcycle, and those progressive motorcycle. Now I know,

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Speaker 1: all y'all, that black dude, that black dude on that

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Speaker 1: man right here, Terence Turrell. We're gonna put the word

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Speaker 1: out by him. He's an Emmy Award when an actor, author, musician,

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Speaker 1: and philanthropist. He's appeared on Bosh for Amazon, Loved Him

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Speaker 1: he's a Raised The Giants, for which he won a

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Speaker 1: Daytime Emmy for Outstanding Support the Actor. In the digital

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Speaker 1: drama series, Terence can be seen in series on the

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Speaker 1: series on New Truck Laurie Chuck Laura. If Chuck Laurie

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Speaker 1: You said, thank God, because this man history on television

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Speaker 1: is legendary. For sustaining sitcoms on the air. But lets

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Speaker 1: go a little bit about this brother here. He's uh,

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Speaker 1: he's originally from Cleveland, Mississippi, so you have to use

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Speaker 1: the word humble beginneas with him. He's an h PC

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Speaker 1: in your law Mississippi Valley State. That's Jerry Ryans Country

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Speaker 1: Willie Todd, you know what I'm talking about, and currently

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Speaker 1: resides in Los Angeles, California. You know the beauty of him, man.

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Speaker 1: He has a book out that we're gonna talk about.

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Speaker 1: Is a self published children's book series and includes the

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Speaker 1: titles of Blackie, He's a previous book that he's written,

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Speaker 1: but my Little Black Book. The book promotes black beauty, inclusion,

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Speaker 1: and self love, which are some of the forces that

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Speaker 1: his talent, hard work, passion, and his commitment to making

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Speaker 1: other people better. Please work with the money making a conversation.

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Speaker 1: He had to change his background once he realized who

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Speaker 1: was interviewing him. He thought he was in the basement.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome terrors to be showing up the like, let me,

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Speaker 1: let me show out, let me get ready for you. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: hold up, hey man, Okay, who are you gonnagain? Hold on,

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Speaker 1: hold on, hold hold on. That's your background that ain't

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Speaker 1: know like uh like no, no little thing they just

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Speaker 1: put on like a little flip pitcher. Now that's me brother,

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Speaker 1: all of like, let me know you are about me.

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Speaker 1: Let me go ahead and do something where you're upgrading ground. Well,

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Speaker 1: first all, you're a handsome guy. So any background you'll

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Speaker 1: But you come from Cleveland, Mississippi. Now, I've been all over.

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Speaker 1: I have been in that city because, like I said,

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Speaker 1: so come from Cleveland. Now we're sighting in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Told us about their journey because we have to stop

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Speaker 1: at the HBCU country that I mentioned in your intro

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Speaker 1: Mississippi Valley state. Because right now, HBCU brand recognition is

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Speaker 1: But I was a drum major at Mississippi Valley State.

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Speaker 1: You're the drum major for a black marching band and HBCU.

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Speaker 1: the band. You gotta you gotta be, you gotta know

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Speaker 1: I became a drum major freshman year, and that usually

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Speaker 1: so so many amazing things that you can learn. You

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Speaker 1: learn how to survive at HBCU. You of course get

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Speaker 1: your education, but you learn how to make a way

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Speaker 1: marching band experience because that's the cornerstone of what HBCUs

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Speaker 1: you know I did undergrad it Miss Valor State, and

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Speaker 1: Jackson State because you know, they say you won't look

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Speaker 1: learned a lot at Jackson State as well, and I

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Speaker 1: other thing said. You are to see you on another level,

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Speaker 1: but they had after I left, they got a drum

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Speaker 1: because you know, because college prepares you so so many things,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, man, and I love what you said

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Speaker 1: when people told you, hey, man, don't do back to back.

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Speaker 1: even when I got here, I wasn't thinking like, oh,

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Speaker 1: And the cool part about it when we're talking here

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Speaker 1: talk about be positive. But I really wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: from the hbc U mindset, you know. I mean, it's like, okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much, we got that, but there's so

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Speaker 1: much more to go. I'm talking to the star Terence

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Speaker 1: to Rail, you know double HBCU are you know? Start

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Speaker 1: the series be Positive of CBS, produced by the incredible

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Speaker 1: Chuck glory Um. Just just just google his name. You

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Speaker 1: go this brother's blessed tears was blessed and he told

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Speaker 1: so the infamous black people listen up. He's small talk,

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Speaker 1: but let's talk about your character. Be positive, man. You

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Speaker 1: know you're an athlete. You know that really kind of

433
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Speaker 1: like being humbled by this barbio dialysis talk about you

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Speaker 1: because you really you know, when these characters, you know

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Speaker 1: where they have a lot of lines, a lot are not?

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Speaker 1: A lot are not? You still have to be able to,

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Speaker 1: you know, give a range and give a thought process

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Speaker 1: to where that characters is. You already got the natural bills,

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Speaker 1: so you look like an athlete. In fact, you actually

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Speaker 1: carried to lead out of one episode. How small as

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Speaker 1: this guy eighty pounds talking was so funny because they

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Speaker 1: said you have picked up so literally, I wasn't trying

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Speaker 1: to like I didn't know until I watched it. I

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Speaker 1: threw him up in the air. But when I saw

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Speaker 1: he threw him in the area. But it's so funny

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Speaker 1: because in high school and you know, you go through

447
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Speaker 1: these different things. And I was skinny and my head

448
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Speaker 1: always been this side since I was five. I always

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Speaker 1: look like babo head looking thing. So I started gaining

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Speaker 1: weight and getting bigger. I got hit one time playing

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Speaker 1: football in high school and I quit. I never played

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Speaker 1: so now so ironic, I get a football role and

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Speaker 1: then I get to, you know, shine a light on

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Speaker 1: my grandmother's actual journey through dialysis. And like you said,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of work in multi cam. I've

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Speaker 1: done single cam, I've done drama. Those are literally a

457
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Speaker 1: walk in apart compared to multi camp. Multi cam. I'm

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Speaker 1: on set. We're practicing Monday through Wednesday, and then we

459
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Speaker 1: shoot Wednesday night. We shoot Thursday and Friday. So you're

460
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Speaker 1: working and you're acting from your toes all the way

461
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Speaker 1: up to your head. You're exhausted that night. So it's

462
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Speaker 1: a whole different type of sport. Yeah, that's a sport.

463
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Speaker 1: Multi cam is like going to the Olympics. It's like

464
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Speaker 1: you have to especially if there's a live audience, so

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Speaker 1: you have to make the joke, hold the joke because

466
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Speaker 1: you gotta think about when people laugh. You gotta come

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Speaker 1: back into the next line with the same energy that

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Speaker 1: you left off without dropping. Right. It's a lot, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, because I've done multis you know, Rod and

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Speaker 1: produced Jamie Foxx and Sister Sister, so I know it's

471
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Speaker 1: a lot of work, and even if you're not in

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Speaker 1: that moment and on camera, you gotta stay there because

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Speaker 1: the camera's on. They shot, Yeah, I think I was

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Speaker 1: gonna said last week. And we did three weeks straight.

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Speaker 1: Usually two weeks or two weeks, one week off. We

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Speaker 1: did three weeks straight and I was doing my scene

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Speaker 1: with Annelie and they said, okay, hold Terence moved for

478
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Speaker 1: the light. I saw her light and he like, no

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Speaker 1: to you. There's two cameras over. Let's talk about your book. Man.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to leave this interview without talking about

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Speaker 1: what's like. I said, you know, we go through these

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Speaker 1: things and we um we forget it how we got

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Speaker 1: where we are. And I feel like you never can

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Speaker 1: forget where you You have to see where you were

485
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Speaker 1: to know where you're going. So when I first started

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Speaker 1: these books, I was very you know, in the South,

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Speaker 1: we don't go to therapy, we go to church. So

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Speaker 1: I end up morning therapy getting some stuff out. And

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Speaker 1: I realized that I had a lot of insecurities from childhood.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't like my skin colder. I told you

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Speaker 1: about that story. So then I wrote a book about

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Speaker 1: a little dark boy Lawns what Melan it is. It's

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Speaker 1: called Blackie, which I've been called, but I turned into

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Speaker 1: the acronyms be loving or doing Karen and kind of

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Speaker 1: yourself about loving yourself. So for a little black boys,

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Speaker 1: showing them that their kings. Um. And then I wrote

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Speaker 1: the second one after my mother pass and she's Superheroes

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Speaker 1: every Day, educates us on DNA. Then the fourth third

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Speaker 1: book right here we go. Then the Crown kids were

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Speaker 1: bringing all the kids together, and then this last book

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Speaker 1: happened after the George Floyd. Um, I was. I'm a

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Speaker 1: mentor for Mrs Tina Knows loss In and Mr Richard

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Speaker 1: Tina's Angels and Richard's Law Uh Warriors, and we had

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Speaker 1: the week of George Floyd. The kids we had we

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Speaker 1: meet with them every Monday and they were crying, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: just imagine eighty kids in the zoom call you see

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Speaker 1: these windows and you can't touch them and hug him

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Speaker 1: and let them know it's gonna be okay because of

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Speaker 1: the pandemic. And they were crying and I'm turning my chair.

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Speaker 1: I'm crying, as Teena's crying. Everybody's crying, and um, the

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Speaker 1: Asian one of the little girls, just like are they

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Speaker 1: all kill me because of my I'm black, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be on the news and get shot

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Speaker 1: down because I'm black. And I just remember leaving a

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Speaker 1: meeting like what I'm not doing enough. I'm not doing enough.

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Speaker 1: I need to show them that they're special that, you know,

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Speaker 1: and um, skin Deep came up where when I tried

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Speaker 1: to wash my skin color off, and so that's when

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Speaker 1: I knew animated short that we're going up on Oscar for.

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Speaker 1: And then my Little Black Book where I'm educating the

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Speaker 1: kids on different things like you know, to sell the

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Speaker 1: marsh but also all these amazing inventors you know where

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Speaker 1: in the world would literally be dark, you know, because

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Speaker 1: we were responsible for the lightbulb as well. So so

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Speaker 1: my Little Black Book. So it's a series of book

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Speaker 1: and the whole brand is called Crowned Me because we

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Speaker 1: don't need to wait for anybody to tell us we're special.

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Speaker 1: You crown yourself and you tell yourself you're special. Because

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Speaker 1: in the books, the kids don't get any special powers.

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Speaker 1: The power comes from self love and self worth. At

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Speaker 1: the same time, I knew I had to own it,

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Speaker 1: so I own all my books, self published them, so

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Speaker 1: I own them right out. So money, money making conversations, right.

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Speaker 1: I got my ownership because we don't get top half

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Speaker 1: of the stuff that other people already know from from birth.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know what an investment account

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Speaker 1: was until a couple of days ago. I'm still learning.

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Speaker 1: We just have to open our minds to different things,

539
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Speaker 1: like now, how can we get this book is on

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Speaker 1: your website? Yeah, here we go, money make coming right?

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Speaker 1: So you go to I crown me dot com, which

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Speaker 1: is my website. At first, I wanted to be on

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Speaker 1: Amazon all these other stuff. But Amazon takes fifty to

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Speaker 1: seventy percent of your money if you sell on there.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, so I sold a hundred and some

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Speaker 1: of the books there, and I remember getting a check

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Speaker 1: for less than two hundred dollars. This is my work.

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Speaker 1: Why am I giving you seting percent of my work?

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Speaker 1: And all y'all doing is put on website. So I

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Speaker 1: was like, let me do my own website and make

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Speaker 1: sure it's you know, efficient and so and plus I

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Speaker 1: like to sign each book and let the kids know

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Speaker 1: that I see them physically. It's a lot of work,

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Speaker 1: but I did it that way so I can own

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Speaker 1: my own stuff and now with these conversations coming up

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Speaker 1: this week, with dream Works and all these amazing people

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Speaker 1: who want to buy into my books or create the

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Speaker 1: series out of it. I it's just me. I don't

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Speaker 1: have to worry about a room full of people who

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Speaker 1: own part of my work. It's just me. I own

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Speaker 1: everything all the way down to the eyebrows. I love it, man,

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Speaker 1: And you know the beauty of this interview. Man, it's

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Speaker 1: just talking about a self built person. You know what

564
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, motivated by and not denied by who you

565
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Speaker 1: are because we don't get those those those people who

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Speaker 1: those people who try to I call him to step

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Speaker 1: into your dream and making an ugly experience. And you're

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Speaker 1: saying right now, your size, we're gonna stop you. When

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Speaker 1: you was born, we're going to stop you. Your color,

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Speaker 1: your skin wasn't gonna stop you. Then you flip the

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Speaker 1: switch and you're there for people who don't look like you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have to we have to give it back. And

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Speaker 1: we can't fight this, this these crazy times with hate.

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Speaker 1: We can't fight the quote unquote racist with Hey, we

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Speaker 1: have to fight them with love and education. So you

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Speaker 1: can't fought somebody for being ignorant to a subject. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean we can educate them on that subject and

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Speaker 1: after you do what you After I give your information,

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Speaker 1: you do what you want with it. But I've done

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Speaker 1: my part in this moment. So we just have to

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Speaker 1: leave with love. And I really really believe in that

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Speaker 1: and everything that you're going through. You know that's happening

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Speaker 1: for a reason. So the single mom, been on whearfair

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Speaker 1: food stamps, all that stuff built character for me. Now,

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Speaker 1: so I know that all of that happened for a reason.

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Speaker 1: So you have to walk and cry. You don't get

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Speaker 1: to sit and cry. You gotta walk and cry. CBS.

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Speaker 1: Be positive. That's the perfect name for who you are. Brother.

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Speaker 1: You are positive for man. When I just said it

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Speaker 1: and just looked at you smiling, when keep you couldn't

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Speaker 1: be on the better show this associate with your brand, man,

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Speaker 1: because you're positive. It's been and Chuck Lori of all

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Speaker 1: people and mark them what they were like, yeah you

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Speaker 1: know he did this? This This was like yeah, what

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Speaker 1: he can actually stop straight to the topazing he's rich man.

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Speaker 1: And so again I want to I'm gonna put the

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Speaker 1: link into my newsletter because I'm gonna I'm gonna send

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Speaker 1: you some direct money making conversation. He did it. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna dropping in there. But more importantly, man, uh, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to the commercials who tell your team to

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Speaker 1: get back to new Motar commercials so I can get

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Speaker 1: on my social media and just start helping you promote

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Speaker 1: your brand because as they say, you be positive, brother,

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Speaker 1: because you stay positive because you are positive. Okay, thank

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Speaker 1: you for doing what you're doing. Thank you for keeping

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Speaker 1: This is the best tererview R I've ever had. You

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Speaker 1: did a drum major move, so I'm good. This is

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Speaker 1: made by gow hey hey, hey man? Who what black dude? Who? Who?

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Speaker 1: I didn't thank you? God? It going on? Didn't want

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Speaker 1: to be you, didn't want to be you. That's going

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Speaker 1: hold hey, I'm telling something. I love you boy man again. Brother,

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Speaker 1: thank you for changing your set right if you came

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Speaker 1: with the fire, I was like, hold up down, you

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Speaker 1: ain't about to get me. Let me go switch. I'll

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Speaker 1: be right there the kid man. I love your brother,

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Speaker 1: and know that on your I'm on your list and

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Speaker 1: get this stuff I asked of you, and uh because

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Speaker 1: I want to sell some of your books and more

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Speaker 1: important that I I want to just keep pumping you up.

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Speaker 1: Because brother, you fight, you fight. Thank you and thank

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Speaker 1: you for all your love and your entity. Man, there's

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